Angeles through a cherry boy's eyes
Just came back from my first visit to the Philippines (6 nights in Angeles and 3 in Subic to be exact). Read through this thread before going so wasn't really sure what to expect since some posters seem to think very highly of this place and others not so.
I live in Pattaya and visit other parts of Thailand as well as Cambodia on a regular basis and though I'm not going to compare Angeles to any other place of course that will have an affect on how I have experienced Angeles.
Not sure which of the posts here to believe I thought better safe than sorry when it came more serious risks (potential/alleged at least) and stayed away from dark alleys, didn't buy anything from the street vendors and didn't pick up any girls from the streets. Found the vendors, beggars and street kids to be less aggressive than I had expected btw.
Didn't find that many really good looking girls but appreciated the variety in size, shape and color. Did appreciate that the girls spoke English (even if some seemed to speak more than they understood, or maybe it was just my Swedish accent?!?) but didn't get the gfe I'd been reading about.
I really thought that some guys on the board was exaggerating about the girls disappearing, saying they're on their period etc but found it to be very much the case and quite annoying. Started to use the "before bf check list" like someone on here suggested which took care of some problems but not all. Don't understand the pay up front system but that's a separate discussion. What seemed to make the difference in the end was how the bars handled it. Everything from the girl I took from Angelwitch that started making excuses and I only had to suggest that maybe we should go back to her bar and sort it out and instantly she was on her best behavior (presuming this was because she knew the management wouldn't be impressed with her?), to a couple of times when I went back and the management just shrugged their shoulders but did offered money back or another girl before I even asked for it, to Black Pearl where I got some bs about bar policy etc but without too much arguing was offered another girl, to the worst case, Dirty Duck, where the management gave me a load of bs (contradicting themselves more than once in the process) and not so much as a free drink in compensation.
Didn't see a lot of drugs, or girls that seemed to be on them, had two great Sunday nights in Bali Hai listening to the band there, liked that some gogos had pool tables (full sized and most in pretty good shape), felt a bit restricted not being able to walk everywhere, liked the music in most bars, don't understand why the lady drinks are priced like they are, liked that most people was driving pretty sensibly.
Will I go back? Sure. But will try to find somewhere to rent for a month or something since, from what I heard, there are plenty of places like that available at decent prices and I found the hotels to not provide very good value for money at the standard I want. Will stay closer to the perimeter area rather than fields. Need to find out where it really is dangerous to walk and when so I, hopefully, feel less restricted in that way. Need to find more and better places to eat since I found most places we went to be poor value for money as well. Found the st/bj places provide very good value for money so those girls will see my dick more often and the gogo girls a lot less. Will by fewer lady drinks and play more pool and drink more beer.
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I never get a runner = I EWR a lot of fuglies
[QUOTE=Amavida]I've never had a runner. But then I don't approach the women like im ordering a meal. I breeze about & let the woman choose me (if Im interested in her). Always get GFE to the max which I honestly prefer most of the time. Like I said never had one [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off rather have more trouble getting rid of them when the itch strikes to butterfly off to the next flower. ;)
If you are living in LOS you probably are used to that scene & give off the wrong vibe to them. In AC the girls are NOT compelled to BF nor are they compelled to stay.
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From my personal experience and those I know well, those who never claim to get a runner in AC generally pick girls who aren't as desireable appearance wise - relative to mainstream preferences. I think in the majority of the cases the western customers in AC treat the girls decently, practice proper hygeine, and have reasonable demands. IMHO, there are not enough cute young good looking girls to go around. And if you restrict your choices to those types of girls, then you are gonna get a lot of girls converting to ST and attempts to bait and switch in the bar. The bait and switch is where you buy a pretty girl a couple of LD's and then at BF time she comes up with excuses (even if she says she was willing to BF earlier) and all the sudden three ugly cousins show up who are willing to rock your world all night.
I completely gave up on AC over a year ago; the change of emphasis from providing sex to providing LD's and the general diminished quality of the looks and service of available girls just got to me. For me at least, there are just a lot better mongering destinations than AC now. And it has nothing to do with how I treat the women, I am the same guy getting BS in AC but getting sent to heaven elsewhere.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
[QUOTE=Mongerxx]From my personal experience and those I know well, those who never claim to get a runner in AC generally pick girls who aren't as desireable appearance wise - relative to mainstream preferences.[/QUOTE]Yeah all my bf's are fuglies, yeah right..
[QUOTE=Mongerxx]I completely gave up on AC over a year ago; the change of emphasis from providing sex to providing LD's and the general diminished quality of the looks and service of available girls just got to me. For me at least, there are just a lot better mongering destinations than AC now.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear you found somewhere you like M.
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