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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2005260]I think younger, better looking men in these circumstances need to make it clear asap(. They look at older, fatter dudes and immediately think, "CUSTOMER". They look at a younger, fit guy and aren't even sure he is a genuine potential customer or not.
Many of those girls are certain in their minds a young, good-looking farang guy will find fault with them once they get a closer look and reject them anyway. So their move is to reject him first. And perhaps even to make a bit of a show of it. To save Face.[/QUOTE]The women are there to work to make money.
Most of them are in the down of their lives, and desperate for fast cash.
For them, money is above everything.
Otherwise, they will probably work in a shop instead of a P4P venue.
Being good-looking and manly does not help much regarding P4P. The generally young and muscular Turkish punters in Germany is a good example. The working women prefer old fat German locals than some young good-looking muscular youngsters.
If you want to attract women purely by your appearance and personality, not your money or an access to a new valuable passport, then you're definitely in the wrong venue.
But then again, even if a woman is not from a P4 P venue, you still risk her turning into a gold digger in the end.
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[QUOTE=Amazon2323;2005259]I am right now in Bangkok, its 7 am and I am looking for freelancer / streetgirls.
Any opinions?[/QUOTE]That time of the morning you can probably find a few exceptionally unattractive ladies or LB's on soi 4 near the entrance to the NEP, and on Sukhumvit between soi 3 to soi 5.
SL.
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Kasalong
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2005242]Sukhumvit 6 alley / Chai Saman Alley. 10 Girls. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: 10 am to 1 am.
This one is hard to find. If you walk down the street past L o l I t a s' s, it looks like a dead end, but is not. On the it opens onto another street. The sign on one wall Soi 8. The club on the left would Kasalong.[/QUOTE]I love this place. When the discussion of value was going on, all I could think was how I could go here every day for $28 US and have hot Thai (legal) get buck naked, let me play with her a bit and then blow me and swallow it as a part of my break from my afternoon walk.
And happily clean me up afterwards.
I love BKK.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2003923]First off, the Thai girls have geezer's faces. If they were just a bit taller they could easily pass as ladyboys.
I thought I'd unearthed a real stunner among them until I noticed she was a he[/QUOTE]When viewing Thai women, if it ever occurs to you that the woman you see is masculine in some way, or she is just way too good-looking to be true, then there is no doubt that he is in fact a man!
Last time I checked Nana Plaza, the only two bars that actually caught my attention were Obsession and Straps, both of which were full of ladyboys (transgenders).
And the reason why they are a lot more sexually attractive than ordinary women was pretty simple. They all had countless plastic surgeries on their faces and their whole bodies.
So, basically, if you take one of those transgenders, you're not only fucking their male asshole (Obsession) or artificial vaginas (Straps), you're also experiencing the world's most advanced plastic surgeries. LOL.
That said, as the old saying remains correct, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and "Different strokes for different folks".
If you do not consider Thai women (sometimes transgenders) beautiful or attractive anymore, it's time to move on to another destination.
This was exactly my case. I probably won't visit Thailand again.
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[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;2005158]Hint of reality in that irony. It happened to me in Thermae when I was 29. One smoking hot babe completely ignored my advances and latched on to first old, Japanese guy she could find.[/QUOTE]Working Women in Bangkok have their own taste for certain clients, which is one reason I don't like there.
Similar to you, but kind of different, you're rejected in Thermae because you're not Asian, while I was rejected by Uzbekistani women in Grace Hotel because I'm not Middle Eastern.
Just for the record, my ethnicity is Chinese. But I prefer non-Asian women. LOL.
Thermae and some venues are known to cater for Asian guests.
Soi 3 and Grace Hotel for Middle Eastern guests.
Soi 4 bars and restaurants for Western guests.
Etc.
Like I said, I went through the same shit in Grace Hotel. You're not alone.
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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2005472]Working Women in Bangkok have their own taste for certain clients, which is one reason I don't like there............my ethnicity is Chinese. [/QUOTE]If you are Asian you would be a preferred (or equally preferred) client by the majority of Thai girls. Were there specific places you visited in Pattaya and Bangkok that you felt you were shunned because you were Asian?
Agree with you that Nana feels like a complete ladyboy plaza. Did you not see any girls to your liking in Rainbow 5, Twisters, or Billboard? These are the non ladyboy gogo bars in Nana.
One of the good things about Thermae is they keep the ladyboys out. That's why you see all the ladyboys standing on the stairs just outside of Thermae.
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[QUOTE=Sexinstl;2005383]I love this place. When the discussion of value was going on, all I could think was how I could go here every day for $28 US and have hot Thai (legal) get buck naked, let me play with her a bit and then blow me and swallow it as a part of my break from my afternoon walk.
And happily clean me up afterwards.
I love BKK.[/QUOTE]You find that cum swallowing at the end of a BJ is common in Kasalong (or L0lita's) for the regular 800 baht fee plus another 150 baht or so tip? Life's been very good to you. What is your rap for making sure cum swallowing occurs at the end? Or is the 150 baht tip plus your natural charm and attractiveness enough to insure it? (smile)
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2005637]You find that cum swallowing at the end of a BJ is common in Kasalong (or L0lita's) for the regular 800 baht fee plus another 150 baht or so tip? Life's been very good to you. What is your rap for making sure cum swallowing occurs at the end? Or is the 150 baht tip plus your natural charm and attractiveness enough to insure it? (smile)[/QUOTE]I'd been to LoIitas once and Kasalong once, before this last couple of times at Kasalong when I saw the same girl over a few days - 800 baht for the standard deal, but when I got to the room I asked if she could completely undress for another 100 baht and then let me play with her for a bit for another 100 baht. The CIM I guess she just gave as extra, because now that I think about it. That didn't happen the other times, with different girls.
Tip appreciation is nice!
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Personal favorites
As a newbie, I've realized that to RTFF can be a misleading if not confusing. Since a lot of us rely on FR's that are submitted by senior mongers, let's try to summarize a template that can potentially help out fellow ISGians find some great action in Bangkok. If you have ever had a good time in this land, copy this template and paste it with your personal answers. Hope this helps out people find exactly what they are looking for.
Best Girl GoGo Bar:
Best Party Club for Dancing:
Best Party Club for Freelancers:
Best Girl Freelancer Soi:
Best BJ Bar:
Best Place for 3 Some:
Best Happy Ending Massage Place:
Best Nuru / Soapie Masssage Place:
Best GF Hotel:
Best Escort Agency.
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[QUOTE=Sexinstl;2005721]I'd been to LoIitas once and Kasalong once, before this last couple of times at Kasalong when I saw the same girl over a few days - 800 baht for the standard deal, but when I got to the room I asked if she could completely undress for another 100 baht and then let me play with her for a bit for another 100 baht. The CIM I guess she just gave as extra, because now that I think about it. That didn't happen the other times, with different girls.
Tip appreciation is nice![/QUOTE]Actually, I was talking about the part if your post suggesting that cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob was common practice at Kasalong Bar. But now you seem to be reporting that mere CIM was not provided in your first couple of visits to Kasalong Bar and L0lita's but was eventually provided by a girl you saw a few times at Kasalong Bar. And that was provided as an "extra" bonus, possibly because you saw her a few times or tipped her an extra 100 bt. Is that about right? Maybe I misunderstood.
CIM finish should be standard service provided in any bar purporting to be a BJ bar like Kasalong Bar and L0lita's for the basic rate (800 bt these days) and no extra tip required. But, in my experience at least, cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob is not commonly provided (I wish it were! Lol) but might be provided as a nice bonus by a girl who either likes you enough to do it or just routinely finishes the blowjob that way or who might do it if an additional tip is offered to get her do it.
Perhaps there is a language difference or definition confusion here; Cum in Mouth (CIM) is not the same thing as cum swallowing.
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[QUOTE=Wimble;1998332]Unlike many, I have a day pack because I am out for the day. I had a couple places that will require you to check the bag; I refuse and walk. The problem is that it is not safe to keep your valuables in your bag and having too many things in your pockets reduces the value of a lap dance. In massage places, just keep you bags with you. In some upmarket places in other countries, there are attendants in changing rooms with security bracelets as it takes 2 to open your locker. Safer but anything can be defeated.
I don't like my picture taken. Shit happens. Like the guy that tired to eat a girl last year in Pattaya.
I always have non-TSA combination locks for my bags. It is basically useless. A safe in room is better or maybe even downstairs. As most travelers will tell you, leave your valuables at home and travel light. I don't stay in budget hotels so I am not sure how safe they are. I have traveled for decades and have never had a major problem with room security. Most the problems I hear about theft are actually theft by fellow travelers.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I was going to reply sooner but I had trouble finding the post.
I will be staying in a budget hotel, something like City Lodge or Maxim's inn or something in that general area for convenience. I've never had anything stolen but in Kl, my locks were tampered with and I've heard fist hand accounts of theft from people in Manila and Vietnam so it's best to be careful.
If I leave my day pack I can fit my camera and important stuff in a small camera bag sort of like a holster. I don't know if that makes me stick out more or draw more attention compared to a 25 l North Face backpack with the camera inside.
On to other things.
I've been RTFF on and off for the past two weeks, didn't get far but got some useful info in between the posts where users argue and sifted through about 15-20 pages of discussions on which Viagra is the real Viagra.
Anyway, some things I would like to clarify which I don't think I've found while doing my browsing.
BJ bars. It's been implied that CIM would require a bit extra or may depend upon the girl. Is there a set price with that or is it negotiable? I've also read that it's around 1200 bhat for full service at these bars, is that 1200 total after or including the BJ, or is it a separate fee? Also, if I want a double BJ is it two girls and two pops?
Eden. I've read there are many other similar places popping up but I don't recall anyone mentioning the names.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=BadDuck;2005917]As a newbie, I've realized that to RTFF can be a misleading if not confusing. Since a lot of us rely on FR's that are submitted by senior mongers, let's try to summarize a template that can potentially help out fellow ISGians find some great action in Bangkok. If you have ever had a good time in this land, copy this template and paste it with your personal answers. Hope this helps out people find exactly what they are looking for..[/QUOTE]Best girl GoGo bar: Crazy House.
Best Party Club for dancing: Levels (my kind of music).
Best Party Club for Freelancers: Insanity, Mixx for better quality (perhaps?
Best girl Freelancer Soi: Soi 4, Thermae.
Best BJ Bar: Kasalong favorite, Som's Haven for quality at certain periods of time.
Best Place for 3 Some: Eden club, Escort agencies (Bangkok Escort).
Best Happy Ending Massage Place: Not a fan of HJ's.
Best Nuru / Soapie massage place: Nataree, but it's closed now. Hardly went anywhere else that was good.
Best GF Hotel: I haven't encountered a hotel that isn't GF friendly, but close to scene would be Grande Centre point T21, cheaper would be Heaven at 4. My fav is s6 sukhumvit (because kasalong in right downstairs) but the hotel is horrible xD.
Best escort agency: Smooci is pretty good but its not an escort agency. So, best girls would be at Xclusivethai.
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What's open at 3 AM?
What's open at 3 AM in Bangkok on an early Monday morning (from Sunday night)? I hear gogos close at 2:30 AM-ish so that seems to be out of the question. Should I go to Thermae and Climax?
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[QUOTE=ParkVille;2006198]What's open at 3 AM in Bangkok on an early Monday morning (from Sunday night)? I hear gogos close at 2:30 AM-ish so that seems to be out of the question. Should I go to Thermae and Climax?[/QUOTE]Thermae seems to be a much earlier club these days. Last time I visited, it closed fairly early, I can't recall if that was 2 am or 3 am, but certainly before I expected. In the old days 3 am might be a good time.
There will still be freelancers on the street to some extent, especially black girls, I guess. I am far from expert about this time slot as it is a bit late for me. There are all night MPs I have heard, especially Soi 11.
Haven't you collected some girl contacts, so you could message one to meet up late?
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2006002]
CIM finish should be standard service provided in any bar purporting to be a BJ bar like Kasalong Bar and L0lita's for the basic rate (800 bt these days) and no extra tip required. But, in my experience at least, cum swallowing at the end of a blowjob is not commonly provided (I wish it were! Lol) but might be provided as a nice bonus by a girl who either likes you enough to do it or just routinely finishes the blowjob that way or who might do it if an additional tip is offered to get her do it.
[/QUOTE]Yes absolutely. CIM is norm in a BJ shop but swallowing is not. Experienced girls at BJ shops and Tulip will try to spit it out surreptitiously so the customer doesn't even notice. Have seen reports from ISG customer that girl swallowed where it was well known that she doesn't. Sometimes good acting.
I wonder how much extra the average girl thinks is fair for swallowing to keep the customers proud of how yummy is their juice? The girls ought to swap it to the customer so he can swallow his own. ;) Pity to waste it. LOL