Havana

[QUOTE=AzGringo;1657716]From a report on RT. What do you long term visitors to Cuba make of this?

United States President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the US is initiating plans to rebuild its relationship with Cuba following decades of disputes between the two nations.

Speaking from the White House in Washington, DC, Pres. Obama said Wednesday that the US is seeking to establish diplomatic relations with Cuba and soon plans to open an embassy in Havana, authorize sales and exports between nations and make changes to current travel laws that for decades have restricted traffic between the two countries.

"Today, the United States of America is changing its relationship with the people of Cuba," Obama said as he offered to "extend a hand of friendship" while unveiling what he called "the most significant changes in our policy in more than 50 years. "

"We will end an outdated approach that for decades has failed to advance our interest," Obama said.

Ral Castro, the president of Cuba, announced in a statement televised concurrently with Obama's that his nation will "reestablish diplomatic relations" with the US.[/QUOTE]Great day today. I finally agree with something Obama has done. I will try to do a Cuba trip next year if everything goes well. I do worry a little about safety there. But, because of open visas with USA I am guessing the cost of woman may also go up as well.

Re-establishment of more tourist facilities.

More competition for the girls from US travellers, leading to price rises?

A general boost to economics from the travel and ease of sending remittances?

Hopefully this will overwhelm the authorities there and they'll relax on the prosti persecution and lead to an easing of the general messing about that has to be done to get a girl back to your casa.

You guys better get in quick. Once they have access to the world and the American tourists flood in, there will be tremendous competition for the girls, prices will rise, etc. , etc. The women will change.

Hold your horses guys, it's not going to turn into the fuckfest some of you guys see. The Cuban govt will not allow prostitution to trump tourism. Look for a crackdown on open prostitution to set the stakes.

Luckily for the vets that know how to maneuver there, that we can fly under the radar because we already have connections there and understand how things operate. The new guys will have a breaking period learning about the casa situation and how the girls operate with the police watching. The girls will raise prices as their options increase. When the internet arrives and most girls have access to it, the game will be over and it will be time to find a new place. Without the internet and access to Americans the girls will have to rely on walk traffic and previous connections. The window is closing but it's not closed yet.

I just watched on the news. That Obama will open up relations and possible businesses for USA residents. Tourist travel only from USA and Cuba will still be banned. That figures.

Without the infrastructure and continued police pressure, seems still a hassle for mongering.

[QUOTE=Riina;1658057]Without the infrastructure and continued police pressure, seems still a hassle for mongering.[/QUOTE]It is a hassle as people will find out. If people want easy mongering Sosua is the spot. Colombia, phillippines and Thailand are also easy but a longer plane ride. Cuba is currently set up for tourists being everything is historic, it's a museum just walking around. Infrastructure is a major problem. Most hotels are run down with only a few exceptions. I stayed at one hotel where the elevator had the control panel hanging out the wall. I actually had to reach down to grab the panel and hold it and my hand while I pressed the button for my floor with the other hand. The streets are horrible. The airport is outdated. Homes are from the past with only basic amenities. In time all this will improve but first they have to lure in the tourist dollars to cement their foundation. Mongering will not play into any of this except girls being arrested for being obvious with their attention paid to foreigners for sex.

[QUOTE=Coolio;1656296]Hello,

Anybody can recommend a casa particular which has a ideally a separate entry? So that if I change the chick I so not have this every time explain the casa owner.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Most Casas allow you to change girls as much as you like as long as the Chicas provide I'd. This is very common here. This is more for your protection than theirs!

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1654526]Hope you didn't pre-pay sir. As I have said before it's best if you rent a hotel for one day and spend that day checking out casas so you know what your getting into, if it's your first time. Most of the casas online advertise "private entrance" but that's just to get you hooked. My advise if you haven't pre-paid is to not accept the casa if you don't like it, there are plenty of others. Plus money on the spot talks meaning if someone walks up with cash you reservation means nothing.

Getting the correct casa is tricky in Cuba. I've had two reliable casas not be available even though they knew I was coming. Luckily they hooked me up with better casas where the families moved out on short notice because they know I'm a responsible tenant. I don't cook in the casas I prefer to eat out. Also I don't run multiple girls through the casa. Usually it's just my girlfriend and maybe one side Chica. Understand Cubans don't mind giving up the house but they don't like random people hanging out.

You will have to pay for the full trip in advance once you arrive so if you violate any of the rules you can be evicted with no refund, so be on your best behavior and respect the casa. You can't go to the police because they will back the casa owner.

So you can think you have everything figured out but obviously you don't know Cuban people. They are in control of this situation even if you believe otherwise so expect the unexpected. We really don't want your future report and pictures because I'm sure it won't be any good anyway. You booked online and feel that is a major accomplishment when in fact it's probably the beginning of a terrible trip. Again, have two or three backup casas on standby in case the first one doesn't fit your needs. But it's best to check into a hotel for one day and explore casas so you can interview the various casas and find a comfort zone for the rest of your trip.[/QUOTE]Good casa info, I confirm all you write in my experiences with casas. Lots of 'private entrances' I have seen consist of you enter the main door of the casa, walk thru the living room and see the whole family, from baby right up to grandma, then you walk thru the kitchen and then you find your 'private entrance' to your room. Got to luv the those cuban chicas, I still rank them numbero uno, then colombianas, then brazilianas. You have never had a girl really ride you cowgirl until you have had a cubana. No wonder they are called 'jineteras' in Cuba. This spring I was checking out a casa, it had a shared bathroom, when I questioned the owner about the advertised private bathroom you then showed me it had a door.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1658028]Hold your horses guys, it's not going to turn into the fuckfest some of you guys see. The Cuban govt will not allow prostitution to trump tourism. Look for a crackdown on open prostitution to set the stakes.

Luckily for the vets that know how to maneuver there, that we can fly under the radar because we already have connections there and understand how things operate. The new guys will have a breaking period learning about the casa situation and how the girls operate with the police watching. The girls will raise prices as their options increase. When the internet arrives and most girls have access to it, the game will be over and it will be time to find a new place. Without the internet and access to Americans the girls will have to rely on walk traffic and previous connections. The window is closing but it's not closed yet.[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head there Mr. Gogo. I was not happy to hear Cuba may open up. I felt it was my little, private, playground. Once the average American Joe gets a load of the sizzeling hot Cuban chicks, he will surely stray from the tour group and prices will climb dramatically. Maybe I will try the Dominican Republic. I love that brown sugar!

[QUOTE=AzGringo;1657716]From a report on RT. What do you long term visitors to Cuba make of this?

United States President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the US is initiating plans to rebuild its relationship with Cuba following decades of disputes between the two nations.

Speaking from the White House in Washington, DC, Pres. Obama said Wednesday that the US is seeking to establish diplomatic relations with Cuba and soon plans to open an embassy in Havana, authorize sales and exports between nations and make changes to current travel laws that for decades have restricted traffic between the two countries.

"Today, the United States of America is changing its relationship with the people of Cuba," Obama said as he offered to "extend a hand of friendship" while unveiling what he called "the most significant changes in our policy in more than 50 years. "

"We will end an outdated approach that for decades has failed to advance our interest," Obama said.

Ral Castro, the president of Cuba, announced in a statement televised concurrently with Obama's that his nation will "reestablish diplomatic relations" with the US.[/QUOTE]Chica prices will definitely go up and all the Spanish speaking American pimps will move in and change the game forever. It's already starting. Since the White House started allowing Cuban Americans to visit their homeland I've noticed a few new things from the Chicas.

1. Their prices have more than doubled in some areas.

2. They're acting just like North American hookers in the sense that some of them are charging by the hour.

Before you could take a chica back to your case for as long as you wanted and she would leave when you told her to. Now most of them are refusing to spend the night unless you offer a lot of cash. They'll agree with everything you ask them in the beginning but as soon as you get back to the case and bust your first nut they get out the bed and start putting back on their clothes. Then before you know it, a private taxi is outside your case beeping his horn for the chica to hurry up. They plan this shit out in advance and 90% of the Yumas just accept it, pay them and let them leave. BUT not this Yuma!

This happened to me 3 times and in every instance I just smiled when they asked me for the money and I calmly told them "no". "Negocios es negocios" "business is business" "you agreed to spend the night with me for "X" amount of money and now you're changing the deal by leaving. So if you can change the deal then so can I. I'm not paying you anything!" At this point the excuses start flying and the pleading (aka lies) about their sick mother in the hospital begins. I always stand my ground even if they eventually cave in and agree to stay overnight. By this time the vibe is killed, both of us are upset and the interaction gets frigid. So no point in continuing with the chica.

On one occasion I was in Santa Lucia and I made the mistake (rookie move) of paying in advance. I got so fucking pissed off when the girl got up to leave I asked her for my money back, she laughed in my face and said "NO"! I fucked lost it, grabbed her purse, took my money and kicked her ass out on the street. Fuck that!

On another occasion (in Camaguey City) the chica started getting dressed after the first nut and said she was leaving. I told her that wasn't the deal. She said she didn't care and she had to leave. I calmly said "no problem" and gave her $5. She stood there with her hand out waiting for more money. I looked at her and said "bye". She said "this is not the amount we agreed on". I said "I know, but if you can change the deal then so can I. You agreed to stay the night and now you're leaving after just 50 minutes. So leave because I'm not giving you any more money".

She fucking went ballistic and threatened to call the Police. I just laughed at her and told her in Spanish to "go ahead, you're a fucking Prostitute. What do you think the cops will do? This is not my first time in Cuba, I know how it works here. Don't mistake me for some stupid inexperienced Yuma!" She left fuming and cursing.

The 3rd time was in Havana. I picked up this beautiful mulatta with a butterfly tattoo just above her pussy. Same shit as above happened, she tried to short time me. I just went along with it even though I explained to her that this was not the agreement. She said "take it or leave it". So I took it, I fucked her, told the case owner to call me a taxi and when he arrived I got in the car and drove away without paying her. She tried to get in the car for a ride because we were is the middle of Buttfuck Nowhereville with no street lights and bushes everywhere and she needed a ride back to civilization but I told her "NO" and told the taxi to drive off. Just before I was about to drive off I told her "you said to take it or leave it. Well I took it and now I'm leaving it. You didn't keep your word, you were rude, offensive and the sex was shit because you didn't give a fuck. You lied to me and I don't like that! So if you don't give a fuck then I don't give a fuck. Let this be a lesson to you on how to treat Yumas. Treat us properly and keep your word because you will end up with nothing just like tonight!

You should've seen the look on her face. She was in total disbelief. I really didn't want to do this to her but a deal is a deal and she had a stink attitude. So I just said "fuck it" to myself and taught her a lesson. My experience sucked but I'm positive the next Yuma she encountered got what was agreed upon.

Cuba has become a destination for the monger with a large book of contacts which probably took 5 to 10 years to build.

The sex scene in Cuba has been dead for almost 8 years. The lifting of the embargo will totally destroy Cuba a as destination for mongering and prices will probably double. Triple.

The party is over gentleman.

[QUOTE=MrSoulo;1659273]Chica prices will definitely go up and all the Spanish speaking American pimps will move in and change the game forever. It's already starting. Since the White House started allowing Cuban Americans to visit their homeland I've noticed a few new things from the Chicas.

1. Their prices have more than doubled in some areas.

2. They're acting just like North American hookers in the sense that some of them are charging by the hour.

Before you could take a chica back to your case for as long as you wanted and she would leave when you told her to. Now most of them are refusing to spend the night unless you offer a lot of cash. They'll agree with everything you ask them in the beginning but as soon as you get back to the case and bust your first nut they get out the bed and start putting back on their clothes. Then before you know it, a private taxi is outside your case beeping his horn for the chica to hurry up. They plan this shit out in advance and 90% of the Yumas just accept it, pay them and let them leave.BUT not this Yuma!..[/QUOTE]Good post. Most times this usually occurs when you go for quantity instead of quality. I always repeat with girls who give a good experience and slide in a side thing with the attitude that if it doesn't work out that I can always slide back to my sure thing. I don't worry about numbers.

You have more time in Cuba than me but in my time I only had one throw away. She spoke English and is the only chocolate girl I've seen in Havana with light green eyes. She first asked once we were in my casa for condom everything which led to an argument. Then she asked to be paid in advance which made me show her the door. The funny part was that as I was walking out she turned real nice and asked why I was upset. I still to this day don't know what her problem was. Maybe because the casa owner had her cedula, she didn't want to make problems.

It's still fun in Cuba if you know how to operate and appreciate the good ones. If you are hunting in the known tourist spots it's a crap shoot. The girls do seem to be getting hardcore but I think it's because they think gringos are only there for a quick hit. Pussy hasn't increased in price for me over the last few years because I know how to shop. These girls still look for a regular client if you present yourself a certain way. Go looking for a quick fuck and that's exactly what you will get.

The clock is ticking and I'm already checking out other spots, but for me Cubanas are the best fucks so far.

[QUOTE=MrSoulo;1659273].

On one occasion I was in Santa Lucia and I made the mistake (rookie move) of paying in advance. I got so fucking pissed off when the girl got up to leave I asked her for my money back, she laughed in my face and said "NO"! I fucked lost it, grabbed her purse, took my money and kicked her ass out on the street. Fuck that!

On another occasion (in Camaguey City) the chica started getting dressed after the first nut and said she was leaving. I told her that wasn't the deal. She said she didn't care and she had to leave. I calmly said "no problem" and gave her $5. She stood there with her hand out waiting for more mone

She fucking went ballistic and threatened to call the Police. I just laughed at her and told her in Spanish to "go ahead, you're a fucking Prostitute. What do you think the cops will do? This is not my first time in Cuba, I know how it works here. Don't mistake me for some stupid inexperienced Yuma! She left fuming and cursing.

The 3rd time was in Havana. I picked up this beautiful mulatta with a butterfly tattoo just above her pussy. Same shit as above happened, she tried to short time me. I just went along with it even though I explained to her that this was not the agreement. She said "take it or leave it". So I took it, I fucked her, told the case owner to call me a taxi and when he arrived I got in the car and drove away without paying her. She tried to get in the car for a ride because we were is the middle of Buttfuck Nowhereville with no street lights and bushes everywhere and she needed a ride back to civilization but I told her "NO" and told the taxi to drive off. Just before I was about to drive off I told her "you said to take it or leave it. Well I took it and now I'm leaving it. You didn't keep your word, you were rude, offensive and the sex was shit because you didn't give a fuck. You lied to me and I don't like that! So if you don't give a fuck then I don't give a fuck. Let this be a lesson to you on how to treat Yumas. Treat us properly and keep your word because you will end up with nothing just like tonight!

You should've seen the look on her face. She was in total disbelief. I really didn't want to do this to her but a deal is a deal and she had a stink attitude. So I just said "fuck it" to myself and taught her a lesson. My experience sucked but I'm positive the next Yuma she encountered got what was agreed upon.[/QUOTE]You sir can be a slimy prick. Damn I like your style! You sound like me when someone tries to play me stupid. Great reactions to the situation!

[QUOTE=MrSoulo;1659273]Chica prices will definitely go up and all the Spanish speaking American pimps will move in and change the game forever. It's already starting. Since the White House started allowing Cuban Americans to visit their homeland I've noticed a few new things from the Chicas.

1. Their prices have more than doubled in some areas.

2. They're acting just like North American hookers in the sense that some of them are charging by the hour.

Before you could take a chica back to your case for as long as you wanted and she would leave when you told her to. Now most of them are refusing to spend the night unless you offer a lot of cash. They'll agree with everything you ask them in the beginning but as soon as you get back to the case and bust your first nut they get out the bed and start putting back on their clothes. Then before you know it, a private taxi is outside your case beeping his horn for the chica to hurry up. They plan this shit out in advance and 90% of the Yumas just accept it, pay them and let them leave. BUT not this Yuma!

This happened to me 3 times and in every instance I just smiled when they asked me for the money and I calmly told them "no". "Negocios es negocios" "business is business" "you agreed to spend the night with me for "X" amount of money and now you're changing the deal by leaving..[/QUOTE]Really? You leaned out of a car and shouted all that at an enraged service provider? Doesn't scan to me. Butterfly tattoo just above her pussy? Spurious details. Just enough to make it sound real.

Sorry dude, don't buy it. Its a wish-fulfillment wank fantasy from someone who's been turned over before.

Let it go man, we've all had to write something off.