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[QUOTE=Jojosun;1349784]Just google Thames valley Police Raids Prositues.[/QUOTE]I think it's important to point out that Thames Valley Police have no jurisdiction in the London area and therefore it is highly unlikely that this series of raids will spill over to London establishments.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1350172]Now the bad news (it depends )?

Police raid " A Popular Brothel " In Basildon, Essex.

Google Basildon police raid brothel.

Never been there, but I read that its been going for years. Got to be some local opposition.[/QUOTE]Basildon's about 50km east of London and comes under the jurisdiction of Essex Police. Sounds like a one off raid unconnnected with the ones in the Thames Valley area.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1350176]I DON'T WANT TO SOUND TOO ALARMIST, but there is no such thing as a (Safe House or safe apartment) There is always a risk of a Police Raid.

GOING TO A BROTHEL is not Illegal. In the UK. .

Read the present law on Prostitution in the UK.

Just stay on the safe aide of the law and you should be ok.

Ignorance is no defence in Law, even in the UK.[/QUOTE]Totally concur. To be on the very safe side, visiting ladies who:

1) operate on their own.

2) are not coerced or trafficked into working.

3) do not possess illegal substances.

4) pay UK taxes.

5) have a legal right to work in the UK.

Should mean that the risk of being caught up in a raid is virtually zero.

[QUOTE=Grandpianist; 1350509]Totally concur. To be on the very safe side, visiting ladies who:

1) operate on their own.

2) are not coerced or trafficked into working.

3) do not possess illegal substances.

4) pay UK taxes.

5) have a legal right to work in the UK.

Should mean that the risk of being caught up in a raid is virtually zero.[/QUOTE]Hi Gradpianist,

Very true. I have been mongering for a long time on both sides of The Atlantic, touch wood, never been caught not even in Vegas, where you hear BS stories about Casinos use (Face Recognition Soft Ware in their CCTV) to catch WGS and would be customers.

To your tips above I would add the following. .

6. Do not visit WGS "Who eat mince pies and Christmas pudding on Christmas day " because that is illegal and there is a risk of a Police Raid.

7. Pregnant WGS Can legally relieve themselves in public places including a Policeman's Helmet.

Here you have the Legends and the myths. About Uk Laws.

The Law is an Ass.

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17610820[/url]

[QUOTE=Grandpianist; 1350509]Totally concur. To be on the very safe side, visiting ladies who:

1) Operate on their own.

2) Are not coerced or trafficked into working.

3) Do not possess illegal substances.

4) Pay UK taxes.

5) Have a legal right to work in the UK.

Should mean that the risk of being caught up in a raid is virtually zero.[/QUOTE]Hi Gradpianist,

Very true. I have been mongering for a long time on both sides of The Atlantic, touch wood, never been caught not even in Vegas, where you hear BS stories about Casinos use (Face Recognition Soft Ware in their CCTV) to catch WGS and would be customers.

To your tips above I would add the following. .

6. Do not visit WGS "Who eat mince pies and Christmas pudding on Christmas day " because that is illegal and there is a risk of a Police Raid.

7. Pregnant WGS Can legally relieve themselves in public places including a Policeman's Helmet.

Here you have the Legends and the myths. About Uk Laws.

The Law is an (ass.) See Below

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17610820[/url].

The ass being referred to here is the English colloquial name for a donkey, not the American 'ass', which we will leave behind us at this point. Donkeys have a, somewhat unjustified, reputation for obstinance and stupidity that has given us the adjective 'asinine'. It is the stupidly rigid application of the law that this phrase calls into question.

[QUOTE=Grandpianist;1350501]I think it's important to point out that Thames Valley Police have no jurisdiction in the London area and therefore it is highly unlikely that this series of raids will spill over to London establishments.[/QUOTE]Unless the Local Police become greedy with their Eyes on sharing (money seized, Proceeds Of Crime ie running managing brothels) with the Treasury.

As someone said

"POCA is shared between the treasury and the police involved in the prosecution (maybe be that should be persecution)"

[QUOTE=Grandpianist; 1350509]Totally concur. To be on the very safe side, visiting ladies who:

1) Operate on their own.

2) Are not coerced or trafficked into working.

3) Do not possess illegal substances.

4) Pay UK taxes.

5) Have a legal right to work in the UK.

Should mean that the risk of being caught up in a raid is virtually zero.[/QUOTE]Re 1. How can one be sure girls "operate on their own ". They could have a Mr heavy or more in the background in charge of things? Think CCTV

2 It can't be so obvious to Mr Average Joe Monger. It doesn't matter in Law."Strict Liability " The monger can still be prosecuted even if he didn't know and even if the girl, girls were working alone.

Points. 3,4. 5 can only be verified after (The Venues, brothels have been Raided ).

That said. I carry on Punting and Mongering much in the same way as I have been doing for years, but (Not anytime, anywhere, anyplace.)

One of my Best Hobbies.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1350585]Re 1. How can one be sure girls "operate on their own ". They could have a Mr heavy or more in the background in charge of things? Think CCTV

2 It can't be so obvious to Mr Average Joe Monger. It doesn't matter in Law."Strict Liability " The monger can still be prosecuted even if he didn't know and even if the girl, girls were working alone.

Points. 3,4. 5 can only be verified after (The Venues, brothels have been Raided ).

That said. I carry on Punting and Mongering much in the same way as I have been doing for years, but (Not anytime, anywhere, anyplace.)

One of my Best Hobbies.[/QUOTE]My post was intended to be tongue in cheek. Even so:

1) operating on their own is in the context of not sharing premises with another lady. There's bound to be security in the background but that's not against the law.

2) some girls are obviously very comfortable with what they do for a living. Stick with these as they are less likely to be coerced / trafficked than ladies who resent their clients or seem tense and nervous.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1350578]Unless the Local Police become greedy with their Eyes on sharing (money seized, Proceeds Of Crime ie running managing brothels) with the Treasury.

As someone said

"POCA is shared between the treasury and the police involved in the prosecution (maybe be that should be persecution)"[/QUOTE]This is correct. Cash seized under the Proceeds of Crime Act is intended to be partially used in the fight against crime. The Met may of course have so many challenges currently on their hands. Eg street crime, gang warfare, gun crime, patrolling football matches. Which they need to deliver on that they haven't the resources to organise raids against the sex industry.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1348957]A Madam is in court.

[url]http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10030916.Brothel_madam_ran___500_000_escort_agency__court_told/.[/url]

Run Allure Agency who also had an Incall Apartment in Central Lnodon.

For your info only.[/QUOTE]Great News for us Mongers.

Cleared, to go back to Sex and Money.

See this verdict.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233977/Vice-madam-Marie-McKinlay-cleared-return-life-sex-money-guilty-running-500-000-year-prostitute-agency.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1351999]Great News for us Mongers.

Cleared, to go back to Sex and Money.

See this verdict.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233977/Vice-madam-Marie-McKinlay-cleared-return-life-sex-money-guilty-running-500-000-year-prostitute-agency.html[/url][/QUOTE]In view of the above verdict, maybe Mr Werner Schmuck a major shareholder in what is going to be Europ's biggest Brothel, gets tempted and open a branch in London or in a location close enough.

Europe's biggest brothel going to open in Vienna.

Here is the Link.

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/9655537/Europes-biggest-brothel-complete-with-coach-parking-to-open-in-Austria.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1351999]Great News for us Mongers.

Cleared, to go back to Sex and Money.

See this verdict.

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233977/Vice-madam-Marie-McKinlay-cleared-return-life-sex-money-guilty-running-500-000-year-prostitute-agency.html[/url][/QUOTE]Madam looks a bit like Christene Keeler who was involved in the sex scandal in the 60s.

Here, [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2102814/Christine-Keeler-I-enjoyed-sex.html.[/url]

A certain Ex Monger of a certain age at a certain place way out west, had a lot of Pleasure with Christene " So he tells me ", and it "didn't cost him a dime then ".

I saw a thai duo in Bromley for a 4 hand massage. Very good massage (deep if you want) , with some sensual included and a HE. They are both nice enough. Yaya, I think is the better looking one, and was the one who "started" the finish. But they were both involved in the finish. Good rates 70 pounds for the hour total. Downsides is that it is primarily focused on the massage. I. E. No clothes came off. But if you're in need of a good massage and HE in South London, go for it. Look for swan thai massage in Bromley.

For JJ (wink)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djIAgcCnFmE[/url]

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1355081].

Been to this place few times since it opened last Thursday. Great for meeting loads of Females.

To PROSAL.

You would love it here and I am serious. Bavarian Village, , Beer, mulled wines, food, WOMEN, Girls.

[url]http://www.bavarian-village.com/.[/url]

This is the link

THIS IS THE place to head to.

GREAT music.

Don't miss it[/QUOTE]Don't know why you're plugging this place but I'm glad you did. Went there last Sunday and it's fun fun fun. Bratwurst, curry wurst, pretzels, weissbier, ice skating, pop bands on stage, ice sculptures, amusement rides some of the whiteknuckle variety. Also as you say lots of young ladies mostly dressed for winter with fur hats, some with fur coats but the majority in down anoraks.

Lovely young ladies manning some of the craft stands especially the English one with long blonde hair who worked the jewellery stall close to the exit on the Bayswater Road side. They are far too young for me to even try and pick up but nevertheless nice to admire from a distance.

Probably as close to paradise as one can get without the involvement of naked ladies and sex.