Pattaya Reports

About civvies: there really are ladies in Pattaya who don't go with customers. They may work at 7/11, but not bars. They know the score, but may be loved up with a Thai man.

Occassionally, I get one who needs money, and offers to go with me. This requires some due diligence by me, since the last thing I want is a scene with a lady crying in my condo.

If I suspect that she is a true civvie, I might take her drinking at a bar and see how she reacts. Or bring a second, known lady along. In the latter case, when the second lady inevitably gets naked, and sticks my dick in the mouth of the new lady, then the rubber hits the road.

Note: since I live in Pattaya, I may see any particular lady for years. So a little due diligence is well worth the investment.

Another note: the flip side is true for bargirls. Some ladies are Short Time experts, but can't handle two hours with a customer, they get antsy. I'm not really a ST guy, so I try to weed them out.

[QUOTE=Md955;2819824]I've been lurking this forum for years and I have read posts complaining about the pricing year after year in various different country threads. Of course things are not going to stay as cheap as they once were, the world experiences inflation and values always change, is the way I see it. Also, it's not like you're paying anywhere near the same amount of money you'd pay in the US.[/QUOTE]Two things you are missing in your analysis. First, nobody is complaining that pussy price has gone up. We all know how inflation works. The problem is the price increase in relation to everything else is not justifiable. As I have said time and time again, my rent has been the exact same for 14 years, which means these chicks' rent has also remained the same. There are not too many things that have increased price here besides gasoline, which may add only a few baht to some goods. However I am still paying the same 1000 baht for a taxi from the airport. Yesterday the driver stopped and filled up with natural gas for 180 baht. It has been at least 10 years since I have taken the bus from Ekamai to Pattaya. Back then I think I paid 118 baht. Today it is 131 baht, not 400 baht.

I also had a freelancer that I met on Thai Friendly come over all night for 1000. (She came at 1030 pm last night and went home at 7 am when I headed out to exercise.) I think the largest increase on anything over the years (besides pussy) has to be foreign brand cigarettes. They used to be 70 baht, but are now I think 120 baht due to increased government taxes in the name of trying to get people to stop smoking. There is actually no justification for the prices for chicks at gogo bars or whatever to have gone up 3 and 4 fold.

Next, what you pay for something in one place has nothing to do what you pay for something in another place. In a reverse comparison, the same $90,000 BMW in the USA costs $180,000 in Thailand. Should I go down to the stealership in Bangkok and tell them but I can get this car for half as much in America? They would probably want to know what that has to do with buying one in Thailand, which is not a damn thing, the same thing with paying for pussy in America has zero to do with paying for it in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Md955;2819824]I've been lurking this forum for years and I have read posts complaining about the pricing year after year in various different country threads. Of course things are not going to stay as cheap as they once were, the world experiences inflation and values always change, is the way I see it. Also, it's not like you're paying anywhere near the same amount of money you'd pay in the US (which I assume most of us on the forum are from) for the same caliber of woman. The going rate for 45 minutes with an Asian massage therapist in Central Florida costs $240 USD and you get at most 2 pops, I never do it because I got spoiled with my mongering trips out of the country. Think about what you can do with $240 mongering in other countries, not just Thailand. I've been to South America many times and I could get a 9/10 (for me of course, we all have different tastes) woman straight out of the university all night and still have at least $140 left over if I don't bother negotiating much. I don't know anything about Thailand as my trip is planned for much later this year, but I am excited to experience it for the first time, but from what I have seen, $240 USD can go a long way.[/QUOTE]I'm in the US but this is a world forum so I wouldn't assume we are mostly Americans in the Pattaya forum. I'd give credit to the Aussies, British, and Asians that dominate this sector. Don't pay much attention to the grumbling over prices because it's the same grumbling heard about all prices everywhere. My local pizza joint wants $35 for an "everything" pizza and I ain't taking out a loan to get one LOL.

[QUOTE=Md955;2819824]I've been lurking this forum for years and I have read posts complaining about the pricing year after year in various different country threads. Of course things are not going to stay as cheap as they once were, the world experiences inflation and values always change, is the way I see it. Also, it's not like you're paying anywhere near the same amount of money you'd pay in the US (which I assume most of us on the forum are from) for the same caliber of woman. The going rate for 45 minutes with an Asian massage therapist in Central Florida costs $240 USD and you get at most 2 pops, I never do it because I got spoiled with my mongering trips out of the country. Think about what you can do with $240 mongering in other countries, not just Thailand. I've been to South America many times and I could get a 9/10 (for me of course, we all have different tastes) woman straight out of the university all night and still have at least $140 left over if I don't bother negotiating much. I don't know anything about Thailand as my trip is planned for much later this year, but I am excited to experience it for the first time, but from what I have seen, $240 USD can go a long way.[/QUOTE]You will have blast. Thailand is an amazing place. You may not be able to have a model at discount prices but there are plenty of nice looking women at bargain prices who will work hard to make you happy. Just relax and go with the flow.

[QUOTE=Md955;2819824] in the US (which I assume most of us on the forum are from)

[/QUOTE]Not sure why you'd assume that -- we come from all over. Some live in places (like parts of Europe) where sex can be quite cheap, but the quality of the providers and the service doesn't compare to SE Asia. And some of us live in the this part of the world, so we don't look at prices in relative terms. But if that's what you pay in the US these days, yes, you'll be very happy here.

It appears that this club is a bit off the "road well traveled", but thought I would toss the name out there and see if anyone had any "recent" experiences they wanted to share about this establishment.

TIA.

Sky.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2819452]The most frequent complaint here is that prices are going up, and the ladies aren't as beautiful as before.

I first read such posts here in 2004, but I suspect that customers have been writing such posts since forever.

There are literally thousands of bars in the Jomtien area, and tens of thousands of ladies. If you are not happy with the selection, the ladies are not the problem.[/QUOTE]I agree that I have been reading those posts for many years now. It is the same for the threads for almost all the other mongering countries. It is just one of those topics that lingers forever.

Guys always compare it to the good old days. One reason why those days are gone is cheaper airfare and the Internet. The Internet has quickly spread the word about cheap sex with young attractive girls and more guys come to that country due to cheaper flights. More guys means more competition for the young attractive girls. Supply and demand dynamics usually means that the prices will go up and the young attractive girls will become harder to find because more guys are looking for them.

When that happens, and it is not what you like, that means it is time for you to move on to another place where there is less mongers. Clearly that place is not Pattaya, one of the most popular places for mongers in the world.

Been to Pattaya many times only with GF so never had chance to solo explore. This is going to be my first time.

I was wondering if there is short time room in those go go bars?

Do I have to buy lady drink first?

Or I can Straight proceed to do deed?

[QUOTE=Md955;2819824]I've been lurking this forum for years and I have read posts complaining about the pricing year after year in various different country threads. Of course things are not going to stay as cheap as they once were, the world experiences inflation and values always change, is the way I see it. Also, it's not like you're paying anywhere near the same amount of money you'd pay in the US (which I assume most of us on the forum are from) for the same caliber of woman. The going rate for 45 minutes with an Asian massage therapist in Central Florida costs $240 USD and you get at most 2 pops, I never do it because I got spoiled with my mongering trips out of the country. Think about what you can do with $240 mongering in other countries, not just Thailand. I've been to South America many times and I could get a 9/10 (for me of course, we all have different tastes) woman straight out of the university all night and still have at least $140 left over if I don't bother negotiating much. I don't know anything about Thailand as my trip is planned for much later this year, but I am excited to experience it for the first time, but from what I have seen, $240 USD can go a long way.[/QUOTE]Indeed, $240 a day in a place like Pattaya has you living like you are in the top five percent. Realistically, one only needs to budget around $100 a day whilst in Pattaya.

Room: $20-$40, for a mid tier hotel.

Food and coffee: $10-$15.

Daily massage: $10.

ST: $40.

Of course you can make it as cheap or expensive as you want. There's days when I'm in Pattaya and I don't even session, almost like a break day and just eat good and get a Thai massage and a foot massage.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2819851]Two things you are missing in your analysis. First, nobody is complaining that pussy price has gone up. We all know how inflation works. The problem is the price increase in relation to everything else is not justifiable. As I have said time and time again, my rent has been the exact same for 14 years, which means these chicks' rent has also remained the same. There are not too many things that have increased price here besides gasoline, which may add only a few baht to some goods. However I am still paying the same 1000 baht for a taxi from the airport. Yesterday the driver stopped and filled up with natural gas for 180 baht. It has been at least 10 years since I have taken the bus from Ekamai to Pattaya. Back then I think I paid 118 baht. Today it is 131 baht, not 400 baht.

I also had a freelancer that I met on Thai Friendly come over all night for 1000. (She came at 1030 pm last night and went home at 7 am when I headed out to exercise.) I think the largest increase on anything over the years (besides pussy) has to be foreign brand cigarettes. They used to be 70 baht, but are now I think 120 baht due to increased government taxes in the name of trying to get people to stop smoking. There is actually no justification for the prices for chicks at gogo bars or whatever to have gone up 3 and 4 fold..[/QUOTE]Well said. I'd also add that the issue with prices going up for ST / LT is that the quality seems to continually go down. Just walk around the Buakhow area and you'll see mostly avg to below avg looking women and most overweight. Having said that, Pattaya is still awesome and will remain my mongering destination of choice until another country pops up that can provide what Pattaya provides (safety, value, beach, convenience, endless food options for cheap, etc.).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2819851]Two things you are missing in your analysis. First, nobody is complaining that pussy price has gone up. We all know how inflation works. The problem is the price increase in relation to everything else is not justifiable.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And the prices asked from tourists are one step above what is asked from the locals. A women that would be happy with 1000 baht from a thai customer, want 1500-2000 from a tourist. And that is why you just say that you pay max 1000, or 1500 for a younger and cuter one. Check the sideline webpages. See what thais are paying. I have seen several gogo-class girls receiving customers for 30 minutes a 1000 baht. 1500 for 60 minutes. Older ladies get less.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2820009]Been to Pattaya many times only with GF so never had chance to solo explore. This is going to be my first time.

I was wondering if there is short time room in those go go bars?

Do I have to buy lady drink first?

Or I can Straight proceed to do deed?[/QUOTE]Hi,

First question: yes, but these are not gogo bars, these places are bars with girls working inside.

Second question: no, but expect to be rejected by some girls (even if you buy them drinks first). One way to reject you politely is to ask a higher price to fuck her (like 3 K or up).

Third question: yes with some of the girls.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2820115]I have seen several gogo-class girls receiving customers for 30 minutes a 1000 baht. 1500 for 60 minutes. Older ladies get less.[/QUOTE]It doesn't make sense to refer to good looking girls as gogo-class girls.

Most gogos are filled with more than 5 O% of unattractive girls, a good bunch of average girls (these two categories are the ones that most customers finish with) and a handfull of good looking girls only.

So which category are you referring to? Obviously not the last one.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2819980]It appears that this club is a bit off the "road well traveled", but thought I would toss the name out there and see if anyone had any "recent" experiences they wanted to share about this establishment.

TIA.

Sky.[/QUOTE]Pictures of their lineup on social media are not encouraging unless you like 35 and up.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2820009]Been to Pattaya many times only with GF so never had chance to solo explore. This is going to be my first time.

I was wondering if there is short time room in those go go bars?

Do I have to buy lady drink first?

Or I can Straight proceed to do deed?[/QUOTE]No need to. I never do. I discuss the cost and if she does what I want and then decide to go upstairs or not.