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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2011820]Thanks for very colourful report. Shows my fears of the new government causing it to be tame may not be justified. I would still like to fuck in the bar though rather than need a ST Hotel.
.[/QUOTE]Couple of years ago fucked Rabbit in the bar one weekend afternoon LOL.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2012974]Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.
[/QUOTE]Having never done LT, I'm no expert, but those times seem short to me. I've only had 5 ST experiences, those lasted between 1. 5 and 3 hours in my room. The 3 hour session included 2 pops, which is something I could never manage in a shorter session. One of the shorter ST experiences had a 2nd pop offered, but I couldn't perform. While still in the bar, the 3-hour session girl explained that LT would be all night long (whatever that is).
I think the time you get might be dependent on your personal chemistry and if she expected to earn more money that evening.
These experiences were in January and February 2017.
[QUOTE=CrapeDiem;2010944]I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".
"[/QUOTE]Haha made me laugh out loud. Even funnier that some have taken it seriously and bitten!! .
JohntheScot.
[QUOTE=CrapeDiem;2010944]I was leaving Pattaya, my heart full, my testicles empty. I had great moments at the Skyfall, I remember Na's vagina, Ni's ass. I spent great time. It was time to leave, Jo the taxi is waiting for me with his luxury Toyota Crown. I will come back to this Paradise place. I am proud of my achievements and I think I will be remembered. If I come every year, I may get my bronze statute on Soi 6, having done so much for the economy of the country. I check the time on my new Rolex and I give my new Pussy, Gucci, leather bag to Jo. We have a two-hour journey ahead. Jo closes the door and starts the engine of his powerful Toyota. The back seat is so comfy, I take the opportunity to open a book of accounting for my next exam. My back is scratching and I take off the price tag of my new T-shirt. I take the opportunity to call my wife and give some update on Paris "the weather is grey, the flat of Jean-Michel is new, I climbed the Eiffel tower".
"[/QUOTE]Haha made me laugh out loud. Even funnier that some have taken it seriously and bitten!! .
JohntheScot.
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2012974]Last time I checked Nana and Cowboy out, which was in September 2016, almost every girl I interviewed said ST is for 1 hour 1 pop, and LT is for 4 hours 2 pops.[/QUOTE]ST is indeed typically 1 pop, though it rarely takes the entire hour. It is not uncommon for an ST to be 2 pops and take up to 2 hours, but that has to be agreed in advance.
LT is, and has always been, an overnight stay. Unless you take the girl after 3 am, that's a fair bit longer than 4 h. As for the pops, the standard was always 2 pops in the evening and 1 pop in the morning, but unlimited pops are implied if you can manage them. In case of an LT, anything less than an overnight stay and 3 pops is a runner or flake. In that case, anyone who pays the full agreed-upon LT price is a sucker and doing a disservice to all future mongers. Of course, if you agree on something different in advance, or YOU choose to do less, you should still pay the full fare.
The 4-hour 2-pop arrangement is not standard, but I'd call it a leisurely unrushed ST.
What the girl (one or ten) tells you doesn't matter. She gets to name her price and choose which services (if any) to provide, and is always free to leave. However, she does not get to define what the words mean, and what sort of service is generally expected.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2013200]ST is indeed typically 1 pop, though it rarely takes the entire hour. It is not uncommon for an ST to be 2 pops and take up to 2 hours, but that has to be agreed in advance.
[/QUOTE]How would you know that ST rarely takes a full hour? I always use at least 1 hour, unless girl was a disaster. What is the point to rush?
I sometimes book ST rooms for 90 minutes or 2 hours.
In an MP I always use well over an hour unless the session is no good. Never book just 60 minutes. It is rare I get two pops. I just dont cum that easy.
Last Sunday took a freelancer. We took 90 mins exactly. She got 3 pops, me only 1. She asked for an extra tip for the extra time. LOL However I pay her well already, slightly above typical freelancer quickie rates. Also I was annoyed that the ST Hotel did not have a special 90 min rate, what I requested, and I had to take either 1 hour or 2 hours. Some ST Hotels I have gotten away with going over 1 hour on a non busy night, even paying the standard. I often receive the phone call saying my time is up.
Am I really so rare, and everyone else is happy with a quickie? I doubt it. I am sure there must be others who are taking it slowly.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2013130]Having never done LT, I'm no expert, but those times seem short to me. I've only had 5 ST experiences, those lasted between 1. 5 and 3 hours in my room. The 3 hour session included 2 pops, which is something I could never manage in a shorter session. One of the shorter ST experiences had a 2nd pop offered, but I couldn't perform. While still in the bar, the 3-hour session girl explained that LT would be all night long (whatever that is).
I think the time you get might be dependent on your personal chemistry and if she expected to earn more money that evening.
These experiences were in January and February 2017.[/QUOTE]I have rarely had a LT as short as 4 Hours. I normally take girl before midnight sometimes 1 am, and expect them to stay till 7 am or 8 am and sometimes to breakfast, or maybe 6 am if pre-agreed. 4 hours could happen I suppose if took a girl at 3 am til 7 am. If girl claims she really has to go very early then I will set the alarm so can get in a morning pop.
However LT has never been as low as 4 hours. Mind you I have not been taking any long times for last 2 or 3 years except for my retired regular girl and these are more like 9 hours. We both like sex in the morning. In past was hard to find girls that really preferred sex in the morning. She is even quite okay With just slipping it in while she is asleep (with lube), and her waking to being fucked. Just thinking of this is giving me a hard on right now, even we just had a session finishing an hour or so back.
I have to wonder if guys are starting to experience very short LTs due to general belief that LT costs only 500 to 1K more than ST, which always seemed ridiculous to me. I always believed a fair price for making a girl try to sleep away from her home and possibly not her normal sleep hours plus providing multiple sex sessions should be only just under double the ST price or fully double the ST price for more demanding customers. Otherwise many girls are just saying they don't do LTs. Of course they might if the price is right. There are hot girls who can get 2 or 3 STs per night, so why take LTs? No point.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013223]How would you know that ST rarely takes a full hour? I always use at least 1 hour, unless girl was a disaster. What is the point to rush?
[/QUOTE]I think the most easily available but admittedly totally unscientific method for determining that ST rarely takes a full hour is to plant yourself in one of the outdoor bars across from Nana parking lot on Soi 4 during the mid-evening hours, perhaps for dinner and a few drinks, and keep a watch on how soon the FL girls who are taken typically return to their station. LOL. I can't think of many times, maybe none, where I did this and saw a girl go missing for as long as 80 minutes, which would come fairly close to the 5-10 minute walk to and from a ST room, maybe a stop off to chat with another friend along the way, or a make-up touch up en route, leaving a full hour of ST activities in the room. I would say seeing girls return to their station no longer than 45 minutes after walking off with a man who spent almost half that long browsing and chatting them up for what and how much is more common than longer away times. And 45 minutes might be among the longer times noted.
But this is, of course, a street girl FL with whom a man has typically invested less time and money in the lead up. And the primary concern seems by what I hear to be more about getting the cheapest rate rather than the best service. So maybe there is less effort to make it last longer. When I take a go-go bar girl I have felt up in a bar for a while and bought Lady Drinks for, I will definitely take my time in the room, my apartment, not a ST hotel room next to the bar, and that can easily take as long as an hour just in the room. Many times it will go on for 2-3 hours. I am definitely a one pop guy these days though.
Recently I was doing some work in the Lakrabang area. After work, I felt that unforgettable itch for some action but wanted it to be in this area. I decided I would hail a taxi and try my luck with a referral from the driver. I asked him in Thai to take me to a massage place with beautiful girls. I referenced the ones on Ratchada as an example. About 30 minutes later we arrived at a legit massage shop in some upscale plaza. I then started to describe what I wanted again. Talking about sideline girls and boom boom. Apparently nothing in Lakarabang but close by in Minburi there is plenty.
Next, he took me to a place called, as he pronounced it Wee wa. I'm sure this is the wrong spelling. Anyways as we drove down this back street, there was a row of bars hidden behind a long concrete fence. Inside it was like a long strip mall of small bars or massage places. On the outside, as we drove down the side street, we ended up at a massage place at the back, similar to the Alaina, assuage set up Ratchada. Price was 2,800 for my girl but I'm sure it was padded 500 for me being a farang. Anyways my point of all this is, sometimes it's fun to just get in a taxi and ask the driver to recommend places. Don't worry about his 500 commission or the cost of the metre or you will ruin the fun. If you are a tourist, this won't be for you. But for members who live here everyday or frequent quite often like Syggies, this could prove to me a worthwhile experience. I will go back again for sure and post specific reviews in the BKK reports or massage threads when I note more specific information I can report.
My question is, does anyone know or has anyone ever been to Wee waw in Min Buri before? I want to go back and make note and report some good information for the rest of the members but I want to make sure I ask the taxi to go to the right place. I'm completely board of the farang scene and Stephan Kwai.
I also recently heard of another area at Vihavadi Soi 16/21. I will check this place out next week and report about it.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013314]My question is, does anyone know or has anyone ever been to Wee waw in Min Buri before? I want to go back and make note and report some good information for the rest of the members but I want to make sure I ask the taxi to go to the right place. I'm completely board of the farang scene and Stephan Kwai.
I also recently heard of another area at Vihavadi Soi 16/21. I will check this place out next week and report about it.[/QUOTE]Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):
[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036[/URL]
Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.
I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152[/url]
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r[/url]
It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).
It is well known I like slim or skinny girls. I used to see a crazy loud girl at Suzi Wong who was small and slim with a hot ass. She had every vice in the book, drinking, smoking, sex, gambling, and drug Ice. She later got pregnant to a Thai boy, had a baby, and decided to give up some of her vices including Ice (not in that order). In fact use of Ice was banded in the Suzi Wong bar, affecting quite a few girls.
Now this girl and some others are not using Ice as a lazy weight control mechanism, and getting pudgy. The girl is no longer hot for me.
Some bars are full of slim girls, like Crazy House. Heavy Ice use could be suspected, although I have no information. I know why, but apparently Ice use is a far easier way to control weight than going on a healthy food (low carbs high fibre diet).
I do hear reports of certain MPs having significant percentages of girls using Ice as well, and management don't stop it. Young silly girls don't worry about becoming addicts.
Which is better? Fat girls or Ice abusers? Neither I guess.
Years ago, the problem drug was "Yaa Baa". I don't know if this one is also still rife. I do know girls at gogos dose up on herbal alcoholic drink "Yaa Dong" to lose inhibitions before dancing naked. Girls who drink too many Tequilas can gain weight from the alcohol and sugar in their drinks. Lady coke drinks and Tequilas maybe watered down to reduce weight gain and drunkenness.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013377]Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):
[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036[/URL]
Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.
I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152[/url]
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r[/url]
It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).[/QUOTE]That is a dam good guess. Wee wah seems to be the Thai word for Viva so that was Spot on. Genius you are.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013388]Which is better? Fat girls or Ice abusers? Neither I guess.
[/QUOTE]Same things happened in Jakarta years ago ("shabu-shabu"). There was a widespead crackdown on drugs and girls started getting fat. For mongers who are into slim girls, the more girls take such drugs the better since the drug will keep them slim AND remove inhibitions (barebacking etc.), were it not for the danger of law enforcement. Ice, meth, crystal, speed, same chemical (methamphetamine). What was Ya-ba? Probably meth as well.
[QUOTE=XXL;2013464]Same things happened in Jakarta years ago ("shabu-shabu"). There was a widespead crackdown on drugs and girls started getting fat. For mongers who are into slim girls, the more girls take such drugs the better since the drug will keep them slim AND remove inhibitions (barebacking etc.), were it not for the danger of law enforcement. Ice, meth, crystal, speed, same chemical (methamphetamine). What was Ya-ba? Probably meth as well.[/QUOTE]I am into slim girls but would never promote their drug use for my benefit or anyone else's.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013388]She later got pregnant to a Thai boy, had a baby, and decided to give up some of her vices including Ice (not in that order).
Now this girl and some others are not using Ice as a lazy weight control mechanism, and getting pudgy. The girl is no longer hot for me.[/QUOTE]I personally have no problem with a "thick" girl. I like them to have some meat on their bones as long as their body is young and firm. Firm is the key. The killer for me would be that she had a kid, not that she gained weight. Skinny or thick, if the girl's body is not firm or if she has stretch marks, it's a turn off. I find that girls on drugs tend to have softer bodies than girls not on drugs as well. Turn off.