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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2013427]That is a dam good guess. Wee wah seems to be the Thai word for Viva so that was Spot on. Genius you are.[/QUOTE]Not genius and hardly guesswork. It's from knowing Thai Language. Letter V does not exist in Thai. They always use W sound never V sound. The Thai script name for VIVA is pronounced Wee-Waa. So it is pretty straight forward and I was aware of this Soapy "Wee-Waa" beforehand.
[Size=+2]วีว่า พาเลซ[/size] WeeWaa (Viva) Phaaless (Palace)
Similarly Sukhumvit road is really Sukhumwit road, and Vibhavadi Rangsit is really Wiphawadee Rangsit. I have a Weesaa not a Visa. Why the Thais have chosen to use use letter V when spelling things in English, when W was the proper sound, is a big mystery. Strangely a Thai J sound is often spelled as Ch in English (and visa versa) too. Hence the Chao Praya river should be Jao Phrayaa, and River Kwai is really the River Kwae (sounds like Kwair). Ha ha! Strange spellings to confuse us.
Strange pronunciations of Pattaya grate on my ears a bit. LOL It should be like Put-ta-yar (with Put as in "put" the golf ball). So many guys like to correct me and say it is Pat-thai-ya (complete BS). "Patts" also sounds just a little silly to me. Correct pronunciation of Phuket, Koh Samui, and Koh Phang Ngan are just too hard for 99% of westerners, so anything will be acceptable. Why Thais had to come up with so many difficult names? LOL My 2nd trip to Thailand I asked taxi to go to Indra Regent Hotel (I had started to learn Thai already but was weak). I ended up at Regent Hotel, a different place altogether. I did not know pronunciation as "In-Traa" (no Regent at all) was critical to getting to the right place. Unfortunately learning to pronounce Thai generally takes a few months. That is the only hard part of the Thai language really.
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Mongering in Bangkok is so easy in the modern day in some ways. Girls often speak some English. The internet provides so much information, especially ISG (where most forums are crappy). Google Maps helps locate things (assuming pins are placed correctly. Not always).
Thai addresses are making it very hard to work out the location of something. In the old days, like 25 to 35 years ago, there was no Google Maps, and so finding an address could sometimes be very tricky. You would have to get near, then ask people on the street or in a shop if they had any clue where something was. That was if they could speak English. LOL Or show them address written down, and hope they had some clue where it could be. There was no ISG and no internet (to my knowledge).
Sometimes you just stumbled upon some mongering establishment or read something in a Travel book. I remember vaguely staying at the Ambassador Hotel 34 years ago, going for a run at night without my wife and stumbling on a Soapy MP in, Suk Soi 2 most likely (not Annies). Went inside, not knowing much and saw the tiered seating of girls behind the fishbowl. Papasan could speak English. I had low money with me and no ATM or credit cards (left behind in hotel) as was going for a sporty run. LOL. Soon was surprised to have a naked girl in the bath with me. Communication not possible. No common language. LOL Did not cost that much. Forget the price now. I was scared of catching STD (had no condoms) and probably the girl did not have any either.
In a subsequent trip had no wife, but had an experienced buddy to introduce me to mongering locations like Soi Cowboy, Phat Phong, Thermae, Grace Coffee shop, Darling, etc. Nana Plaza was as yet unknown. Did not really know about or use Oilies greatly. Many Thai style Massage shops though. Without guide books or a buddy, I probably would not have known very much at all.
Internet and Google Maps with Smart Phones now makes everything so easy.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013644]Depends on the drugs. Ganjaa makes bodies go all saggy. Ice probably does not. Girl had very tight body when was an Ice user. Super ass. Unfortunately after her baby, ass was not the same, and the pussy was not the same. Inner lips seemed to be overly taunt. Not feeling good for DATY. She became more difficult to fuck. Perhaps doctor sewed her up too small.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about only gangja making them saggy. I will use the example where I was closed involved. There was a little hard body in Jakarta I liked. I took her home over 100 times, but then she got hooked on shabu shabu and lost a ton of weight (almost a skeleton) and her body went soft. It was a total turn off so I lost interest in her. She then went to work in Japan for a few years. When she returned to Jakarta, she had gained weight back to normal. And while her body wasn't as firm as before, her body was relatively firm again. She was always a stunner when she wasn't hooked on drugs. However, within a month of her returning to Jakarta, some guy took her off the market and I haven't seen her in years now.
As far as the doctor sewing your girl up too small, that sounds kind of hot.
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Looked in Crazy House quite early tonight (since I was nearby). Nothing that special really. Numbers 109,110, 112 were passable looking with 112 (maybe called Taa) the best to my eye. Not at all interested in raunchy "Geronimo" whose face looks like a native American Warrior in war paint, which turns me off, since the face is not feminine looking to me. I don't know her name, but has mega tats and piercings, implants and a pussy. No need to stay long. I probably missed the better girls that arrive around 9 PM or so.
Checked out Toy Bar again. My suspicions were confirmed that it is no where near as "Thaleung" or wayward a bar as it was some 15 to 20 years ago. Only one or two girls with passable looks. A bit of mutual groping going on but girls were not at all naked or even topless. No BJs in the bar. I recall getting a BJ in the public bar many years ago and had exposed a hot girl's tits and pulled down her knickers. So relatively tame at the moment. Not sure what attracts the customers, since in Crazy House the girls are better looking and many are naked. Perhaps the groping is more full on under the girl's costume. Some girls were prepared to kiss customers in the bar. Based on another guy's report, SOL sounds much more risqu in the modern day. I can try that another day, and check if Kangaroo bar is at all wayward without resorting to the dark back room.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013840]Not at all interested in raunchy "Geronimo" whose face looks like a native American Warrior in war paint, which turns me off, since the face is not feminine looking to me. I don't know her name, but has mega tats and piercings, implants and a pussy.[/QUOTE]Hottest girl in Bangkok. Her name is Ice. You should talk with her, she is quite charming.
I tried number 9 there the other night. She is probably to your liking. Young girl, skinny and everything natural. Cannot speak English.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2013484]I am into slim girls but would never promote their drug use for my benefit or anyone else's.[/QUOTE]You are right, it should be their decision, not yours or mine (nor the State's). Or did you mean something else?
Note that relatively unhindered drug use may be one of the attractants for girls going into prostitution in the first place. And it may be what keeps many girls going.
I'm sure for a good-looking girl, showing flesh while high on stims is not such a horrible experience. Ask Jenna Jameson.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2013867]You are right, it should be their decision, not yours or mine (nor the State's). Or did you mean something else?
Note that relatively unhindered drug use may be one of the attractants for girls going into prostitution in the first place. And it may be what keeps many girls going.
I'm sure for a good-looking girl, showing flesh while high on stims is not such a horrible experience. Ask Jenna Jameson.[/QUOTE]I would not encourage or want girls to do drugs just so I could bang a slim body.
I seriously doubt girls ever get into this business for the purpose of drugs. They get in the business to feed their family and then to some how endure and to keep going in the business they turn to drugs.
Good looking girls high on stims is not a horrible experience? Good God! Why do you think they are on stims to bang you or me?
These stims are meth with different names like Shabu. Ever seen what the addiction does to people?
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Alcohol. Cigarettes
Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.
If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.
Moreover, in a broader sense, alcohol and cigarettes are drugs as well.
This is why I never intake alcohol or smoke, either in real life or in P4P venues.
I always wonder why some people can't just enjoy pure sex, without usage of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, etc.
I also prefer working women who have less exposure to alcohol or cigarettes, which means they are more likely to be healthier and less likely to be a further drug user.
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Agreed 100%
[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013961]Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.
If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.
Moreover, in a broader sense, alcohol and cigarettes are drugs as well.
This is why I never intake alcohol or smoke, either in real life or in P4P venues.
I always wonder why some people can't just enjoy pure sex, without usage of alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, etc.
I also prefer working women who have less exposure to alcohol or cigarettes, which means they are more likely to be healthier and less likely to be a further drug user.[/QUOTE]If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman. Well maybe a drunk LB.
I like the clean athletic type with some tone to their bodies. Spinners are too thin and weak. I will take attitude over beauty any day. Beauty is only skin deep but attitude is character.
RL.
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Need help
Hi,
First time in Bangkok and leaving tomorrow.
Would appreciate if someone could help me in finding Russian / Japanese / middle eastern women or a good place to try a good threesome.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;2013961]Taking a working woman using drugs is too much of a danger and hassle, in my opinion.
If I know a woman is a drug user, if I ever know it, I will avoid her at all cost to stay away from troubles.[/QUOTE]Most of the time you wouldn't know nor be able to tell.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2013880]I seriously doubt girls ever get into this business for the purpose of drugs. They get in the business to feed their family and then to some how endure and to keep going in the business they turn to drugs.
[/QUOTE]To attract girls into prostitution you need a carrot and a stick. Poverty is only the stick.
Females are naturally pregnancy-driven and marriage oriented, not wild and promiscuous. Think about it the next time you land a girl "who is really into it", a "real nympho", a genuine "3-hole fucklet" etc. Do you think she's behaving that way because she's been waiting for you all her life?
Mongers who want a constant supply of wild and promiscuous girls while adopting a strong anti-drug stance are like people who are against killing animals while eating steak.
Scary but worth bearing in mind: a smoothly-running don't ask don't tell drug culture may be a monger's best friend.
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[QUOTE=RobertLong;2014056]If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman. Well maybe a drunk LB.
I like the clean athletic type with some tone to their bodies. Spinners are too thin and weak. I will take attitude over beauty any day. Beauty is only skin deep but attitude is character.
RL.[/QUOTE]Sounds like we are interested in the same type of chick. Although, I do like a girl to be a bit tipsy on alcohol (not drunk) before I take her home. And myself as well.
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[QUOTE=RobertLong;2014056]If they are into drugs then they are app to rip you off if given a chance. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes on a woman's breath. And there is nothing worst than a drunk woman.
[/QUOTE]I did not find anything greatly wrong with bargirls using Ice, other than they may have been loudly having a good time (hard to say if noisy fun is due to drugs or alcohol). I don't do alcohol much myself. My dick is already relatively insensitive without alcoholic impairment to make Cumming even more difficult. I can get away with a very small number of drinks sometimes.
Overly drunk is bad. Girl will sleep or throw up, etc. , or maybe become more crazy, aggressive or annoying.
A bargirl I know at CH has just returned with significant weight loss. I have to be suspicious about how it was achieved. However no evidence yet, so will look see for a bit, if anything seems out of ordinary. She was always an active goer on the bed. Likes a good strong fuck.
Something I did learn about Ice Addicts, is that if they don't get it, they can have no energy and spend a lot of time sleeping. Don't know if cravings make them get into thieving.
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Viva Palace
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2013377]Viva Palace (sounds like Wee Wah):
[URL]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/Viva%20Palace/modelplace-map.php?id=036[/URL]
Heard of it years ago but never visited. I had a feeling there maybe Viva 1 and Viva 2 in two locations, but that may be wrong.
I am currently staying in Sathorn district, so Soapy IDA visible from Sirat expressway is probably worth a second visit for me.
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/qKKbRPgWs152[/url]
[url]https://goo.gl/maps/hPi9fePCP4r[/url]
It seemed classy on first visit and girls and prices were good at the time. I went with buddy Traveler1234 before for a look (and session).[/QUOTE]I don't believe I've heard of this place but it looks good. I initially suspected it might be a place for Thais only but the website is in English. Thanks for the info.
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Maybe ice, maybe not.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2014207]I did not find anything greatly wrong with bargirls using Ice, other than they may have been loudly having a good time (hard to say if noisy fun is due to drugs or alcohol).[/QUOTE]In January I had a great ST session with a bar girl. The next night I brought her back to my hotel for round 2. Things were different starting with the 5 minute walk from the bar to my hotel, she couldn't walk straight and almost fell a couple of times. In the room she was awkward and acted strange. Knocked over a lamp while trying to get a bottle of water from the night stand. Too much energy. Tried to hold water in her mouth but ended up drooling most of it on the bed. Couldn't apply the condom like she did the night before. Thrashed about during sex whereas the night before she was an excellent partner.
I don't know if this was ice or something different. But whatever it was, I didn't appreciate the effects.