General Reports

[QUOTE=Lookingforlust]....Some of the ad look like they have a time on it 3pm, 9pm. While is there such a different in price, and what can I expect from the girls? When I click on the link for one of the clubs. I see a Big room with a roll of seats along the wall and a few coffee table. Is this placing only for drinking?[/QUOTE]it's a KTV but if you do not know what they are, follow the recommendation you got from a fellow ISG'r here...do not go.
KTV are for groups anyhow
Going there alone is...no fun, money spent...and that is it

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]My response is not just for "Gun Runner" but any interested in the answer to his question.

The short answer is all prices are always in HK dollars. Avoid giving a tip!

Note that providing a tip is a Western culture bad habit. HK guys never tip the 141 girls, we should follow their good lead. The price stated by the girl is based on what she thinks is a fair price for her services. Giving her a tip leads her to think she should price herself higher -- thus inflated prices! This is what happened in Wan Chai.

When I first visited HK 17+ years ago, prices for sex in Wan Chai and TST was cheap. Back then, you could get a good looking Chinese girl to stay with you ALL NIGHT for about HK250 to HK300. This included sex at least 2 times. Often times, it was hard to get rid them the next day.

What happened to the low prices! Well, over the past 17 years, more and more tourist/guys came to Wan Chai bidding up the sex prices by providing tips and over paying for sex. Also, the expats working in HK, who made big bucks back then, wanted to show off and threw money at the Chinese girls.

Now, the Flips are into the game asking HK1,000, HK1,500 and more for SHORT TIME! This is simply crazy and out of control. This is the reason I avoid all the tourist bars and any girl that works in that area. I hunt for sex where the locals go and the prices have not been inflated by the tourist.

To prove sex with a good looking young HK is still really cheap and it is a place where locals go and no tourist, check out sex 141 and click on "Tai Po" and look at all the young Chinese girls for HK350, note that pics are shown. Need more proof, check out Tsuen Wan and see all the lovely Chinese girls for HK350. These Chinese girls at HK350 look 5X better than the flips at HK1,000.

Why are the prices are so reasonable for Tai Po and many places like it in HK, it is because NO tourist go there and it is where the locals go.

Why do many girls from many parts of the world come to HK to sell sex especially in tourist bar areas such as Fenwicks (notice that they are not going to Thailand or the PI)? It is because the area in and around Fenwicks has gained an international reputation among the working P4P girls as a place where guys will pay four times or more the going rate for sex in Asia. Rest assured that these girls think Westerns are suckers for paying such high prices.

I know some guys will hate what I wrote and that's fine. My information and facts is directed towards the guys who want to avoid the overpriced tourist sex traps.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I'll do my part to keep the prices down.. Do the girls travel between cities? For example would a girl from Tai Po come to Kowloon ( I believe that is where I will be staying). And is overnight really overnight of unlimted action or is it a 1 or 2 time deal?

[QUOTE=Gun Runner]Thanks for the information, I'll do my part to keep the prices down.. Do the girls travel between cities? For example would a girl from Tai Po come to Kowloon ( I believe that is where I will be staying). And is overnight really overnight of unlimted action or is it a 1 or 2 time deal?[/QUOTE]

Hi GR. To answer your question, in most cases, the girls you refer to (ie. < HK$500 from areas like Tai Po that you find on the 141 web site) will not travel to Kowloon. You may find an exception? However usual case no.

what you need to keep in mind, is that most of these girls are originally from Mainland China. They did not assess the situation and decide "I would rather work out of Tai Po than TST because I am happy to only make HK$350 / pop".

It is them who were assessed by their papasan and based on their REAL looks, their service, and their communication skills, they were located there. You need to keep in mind... the pics in the 141 data base are usually VERY heavily photoshopped. Bros who have high reading access at sex 141 would agree, the "real pics" are OFTEN a big disappointment... not always, but often.

That's not to say you should not try Tai Po, or Yuen Long, or Tsuen Wan etc... go for it. However keep in mind, you are paying < HK$500 for a reason and it is not as simple as "tourists dont go there". In many cases, you will get about 45 minutes with an average looking gal who speaks no English and will lack the passion some Bros are looking for.

You may also get really lucky in which case be sure to share the news so other Bros can try her out before she gets relocated to an area where she can make more money for her (papasan/agent).

In reference to what overnight means, this is best established when negotiating the original deal. You need to be very clear on this issue to ensure no confusion. It can mean whatever it is the Gal agrees to. Be sure to mention number of pops and what time in the morning she will leave. Whatever you do, dont pay up front.

I should add, most "regional" gals in non tourist areas like Tai Po are not offering overnight as an option. You could pay for double and triple sessions, ie 45 to 55 mins x2 or x3, but that costs double or triple. Then you get to a point where you may as well have sourced something in Wan Chai or TST and paid more to get more to begin with.

My point is simple, every option has it's own set of pros and cons. You just need to decide what's best for you.

Tony,

Thanks much for your input and the helpful information. I will continue to monitor the forum and keep up with the reports before I come.

Jackthelad is back in his favourite place – Hong Kong – and, with some mates, heads for the usual Wan Chai hot spots. Jet lag has been replaced by that anticipation of a good time about to happen. In our eagerness we are there too early on an unusually quiet Monday night. Although I have never met her before, I have been in almost daily contact with Nonette from Manila since last December and who is currently working in Singapore but has flown over “just to meet me”. The fact that her 4 week visa in Singapore was just about to expire was only a coincidence. I arrange to meet her in Laguna – not my favourite mongering place but surprisingly busy at about 10.00pm. She finds me and lo and behold she is better looking in the flesh than she is online. She is wearing a “little black thing” which is showing off most of her. I’m impressed and a drink or so later she is all over me like a rash. Real GFE. I’m more than impressed. Off we go to my hotel after a couple of hours socialising and getting to know each other better. We shower together – she is all over me – and into bed – very GFE and after the usual foreplay which included DATY etc, I am just about to climb on board when she suggests we wait until morning. Alarm bells start to ring. She says she has had too many tequilas. I am not impressed any more but she is not for changing her mind. So I suggest she gets dressed and I take her back to Wan Chai. On the plus side no money has been talked about and none is handed over. Taxi back to Wan Chai and I say my goodbyes and head for Borocay. It’s fairly quiet there but I spot a Chinese girl who is reasonably attractive and quite tall. I buy her a drink and suggest we go to some other place but she tells me she is always refused entry to places like Escape and Neptunes as she is Chinese. We agree HK$1000 for the rest of the night. She is called Toto. Remember the name. Taxi back to the hotel. After a shower together, things are looking good and just before we get into my now unmade bed when she asks for the money up front. I politely refuse but show her the money and leave it on the bed side table. She still wants it (the money I mean). Time to assert my authority. Ok honey – get dressed and lets go. Taxi back to Borocay where we part company on friendly terms. A reminder that Toto is the name. So far I have had plenty kissing, body contact, touching etc etc but no sex! At least it has only cost me a few taxi fares and a couple of drinks. I am getting an inferiority complex. I then make a tour of the usual haunts Neptunes, Escape, Amazonia, Laguna, Galaxy but they are mostly empty as it is after 4.00am now. I’m just about to call it a day when I spot a cutie coming out of Escape. I ask where she is going – the 7-Eleven shop across the road – and I suggest she comes back to my hotel with me. She says she does not know me and I propose a drink in Galaxy. She agrees and she is greatly reassured that I am not Jack the Ripper when I am greeted like a long lost friend in Galaxy by the Manager, staff and the Mamasan. We agree HK$1000 until 9.30am as she has to be back in her “prison” by then otherwise she is fined by her Manager. Her name is Shirly – educated, intelligent and articulate. I get the usual stories about life back in Manila but she is interesting. She is staying in a small room with 12 other girls (only 2 beds) which costs her HK$60 a night plus HK$13 for food. She is tightly controlled – she is actually not allowed out during the day and her Manager dictates her “working” hours. Its as near to trafficking as I have got to and which was a subject of discussion a few weeks ago on this forum. I have no reason to disbelieve what she tells me. She is also only allowed to leave with a customer after 4.00am.
Taxi back to the hotel – by this time I feel I know most of the HK taxi drivers. This time I knock it off – she is a wow in bed. Enough said and she leaves at 9.30am as arranged. I can’t wait to meet her the next night.
At this point I work out that I have spent HK$3100 in my first night – too much. We (my mates included) agree we have to go easy on Tuesday night. HK$2100 is on drink – mainly ladies drinks. My mates are not much better off financially. A bit more care is required.
We hit the well known spots on Tuesday, but again it is fairly quiet. I meet Shirly (24 years of age) in Galaxy and am looking forward to another night with her when she reminds me she cannot come to my hotel until 4.00am. Would that be OK with me? Certainly not but we part on good terms with the potential to meet up later. Cut a long story short – we (the mates) all head back to the hotel about 2.00am – we are truly knackered. An early night for all is a good idea – backed up by the bank manager as well. At 4.00am Shirly phones – can she come over? I have to decline.
Wednesday night arrives and off we all go. I bump into Nonette – she still loves me and wants me but she has met a friend who is buying her drinks and she says she will see me later. I leave the door open. I meet Shirly who is agitated that I can’t wait until the bewitching hour of 4.00am for her. Things are not looking too good but there art plenty of others who are making the usual approaches in the bars. I decide on a change of plan – get their numbers for later in case of emergencies. I meet Nonette again – her friend is still buying her drinks and she tells me it is the wrong time of the month for her – can I meet her in a couple of days? I wish her all the best and delete her number from my phone.
Its getting late – plan B gets put into place. I phone Winnie whose number I got in Neptunes earlier – she is still there. I meet her – she wants me to take her friend as well but I am not into twosomes – it takes me all my time to handle one although the thought was appealing. No drinks are bought and we agree HK$1000 for 3 hours. She is 34 with 2 kids and in the bar talked too much. Back at the hotel she was amazing – totally different and we had a great time. All the usual positions, starting of with a BBBJ, then 69. I let her go – a happy man - before the 3 hours was up. I have a fall back for the rest of the week if needed.
Overall, even in the couple of months since I was here last year, things have changed – and my mates agree. The quality is so-so and variable. I know it’s a business for the girls but this has not always been so obvious and “in your face” as in the past. Without question, places are quieter - they are not as busy as they used to be. The “trafficking” and “control” over the non-freelancers is something I have not seen before, although always suspected was going on in the background. Not allowing girls out during the day is new to me however. Anyone els come up against this?
Maybe I’m just getting older and losing my touch.
The experiences of my mates so far has also not been all that different to mine.
More to follow

Hey Jack, I think the time of year is working against you. I was in town mid Jan and Wan Chai was great. In early Dec absolutely spectacular. I was also in HK late October (great) and early November not as good.

I'll be back in April which is always a great time of year.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]I spot a cutie coming out of Escape. I ask where she is going – the 7-Eleven shop across the road – and I suggest she comes back to my hotel with me. She says she does not know me and I propose a drink in Galaxy...She is staying in a small room with 12 other girls (only 2 beds) which costs her HK$60 a night plus HK$13 for food. She is tightly controlled – she is actually not allowed out during the day and her Manager dictates her “working” hours. Its as near to trafficking as I have got to and which was a subject of discussion a few weeks ago on this forum. I have no reason to disbelieve what she tells me. She is also only allowed to leave with a customer after 4.00am.[/QUOTE]

Hey Jack .. have appreciated the reports. Just an alternate point of view here.

The fact that she is paying $60 a night for room and $13 for doesn't mean it is trafficking ... it is just trying to nickel and dime them. It's the way the Philippine economy works. I do have to say that if the girl is moving between Escape and Galaxy and 7-11 that she doesn't seem as tightly controlled as she says. It might be that she was simply looking for the biggest dollar option. Dunno.

And $1,000 for 3 hours? Almost better to go to Mongkok for 3 pops for that money. Probably could do okay at Karaoke as well, especially if you are with mates and each spending $3,000 a night, but then it's been a while since I have done that.

YMMV

Thought I would offer this for what it is worth.

There has been a lot of discussion about Wanchai versus other places, as well as discussion about how domestic helpers, with a little input, can become great freebies. Also, on different boards, there has been a lot of discussion about 'falling for' a working girl.

About six months ago, I cultivated a couple of 'friends.' One was a 24 y.o. Indo domestic helper who was always in Wanchai on Sundays with her friends.

Sex was free. We spent time outside of the bars together. I showed her around Hong Kong. She spent most of her day off with me at my flat.

Based upon a post here about being clear up front with what the situation was given the number of fish in the sea, I made it clear that a) yes there were other people and b) if she did, that would be that. (Call me an b@stard).

I got the numerous, "No, Hun, I not go with another guy." We talked about me signing her contract and moving her in to my flat. Usual ups and downs. Hesitation, hesitation.

Things ultimately came to a head when she announced that she was not going to be with me if I had other 'friends.' Fair enough ... I can respect that. I had placed the same requirement on her. Then the rest came out over a couple of weeks, designed by her to try and elicit pain on my part. She had been screwing her old boyfriend who had moved to Singapore six months prior to my meeting her, and she had then decided that she would also continue taking 'customers' for money as well.

At the end, after saying ciao, she wanted back (a couple of days). I am dumb, but not stupid.

I post this just as a warning ... we think that it is a freebie situation, but it isn't, even if we are not paying for it. You're always paying for it one way or another and it is important not to lose sight of that. The girls are there for the money, or the potential for the money down the road. They will lie cheat and steal from you with very little (read: no) remorse. Realize that it is all a game for them, as that is what their upbringing and situation requires. I had thought that one could take the bar out of the girl, in some instances, but I was wrong.

When you think you have found the 'diamond in the rough,' realize that it is only the 'diamond in the rough in the diamond in the rough' that is a potential.

Oh, and cover up. There is a lot of 'stuff' going around Wanchai. I know thanks to her. Curable, but a pain close to the @ss.

Just wanted to add this as a reminder (and not as a whine) for people that think that their bar-friend girlfriends are anything other than bargirls. The comments on this and other forums are very appropos.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Jackthelad is back in his favourite place – Hong Kong – and, with some mates, heads for the usual Wan Chai hot spots. Jet lag has been replaced by that anticipation of a good time about to happen. In our eagerness we are there too early on an unusually quiet Monday night. Although I have never met her before, I have been in almost daily contact with Nonette from Manila since last December and who is currently working in Singapore but has flown over “just to meet me”. The fact that her 4 week visa in Singapore was just about to expire was only a coincidence. I arrange to meet her in Laguna – not my favourite mongering place but surprisingly busy at about 10.00pm. She finds me and lo and behold she is better looking in the flesh than she is online. She is wearing a “little black thing” which is showing off most of her. I’m impressed and a drink or so later she is all over me like a rash. Real GFE. I’m more than impressed. Off we go to my hotel after a couple of hours socialising and getting to know each other better. We shower together – she is all over me – and into bed – very GFE and after the usual foreplay which included DATY etc, I am just about to climb on board when she suggests we wait until morning. Alarm bells start to ring. She says she has had too many tequilas. I am not impressed any more but she is not for changing her mind. So I suggest she gets dressed and I take her back to Wan Chai. On the plus side no money has been talked about and none is handed over. Taxi back to Wan Chai and I say my goodbyes and head for Borocay. It’s fairly quiet there but I spot a Chinese girl who is reasonably attractive and quite tall. I buy her a drink and suggest we go to some other place but she tells me she is always refused entry to places like Escape and Neptunes as she is Chinese. We agree HK$1000 for the rest of the night. She is called Toto. Remember the name. Taxi back to the hotel. After a shower together, things are looking good and just before we get into my now unmade bed when she asks for the money up front. I politely refuse but show her the money and leave it on the bed side table. She still wants it (the money I mean). Time to assert my authority. Ok honey – get dressed and lets go. Taxi back to Borocay where we part company on friendly terms. A reminder that Toto is the name. So far I have had plenty kissing, body contact, touching etc etc but no sex! At least it has only cost me a few taxi fares and a couple of drinks. I am getting an inferiority complex. I then make a tour of the usual haunts Neptunes, Escape, Amazonia, Laguna, Galaxy but they are mostly empty as it is after 4.00am now. I’m just about to call it a day when I spot a cutie coming out of Escape. I ask where she is going – the 7-Eleven shop across the road – and I suggest she comes back to my hotel with me. She says she does not know me and I propose a drink in Galaxy. She agrees and she is greatly reassured that I am not Jack the Ripper when I am greeted like a long lost friend in Galaxy by the Manager, staff and the Mamasan. We agree HK$1000 until 9.30am as she has to be back in her “prison” by then otherwise she is fined by her Manager. Her name is Shirly – educated, intelligent and articulate. I get the usual stories about life back in Manila but she is interesting. She is staying in a small room with 12 other girls (only 2 beds) which costs her HK$60 a night plus HK$13 for food. She is tightly controlled – she is actually not allowed out during the day and her Manager dictates her “working” hours. Its as near to trafficking as I have got to and which was a subject of discussion a few weeks ago on this forum. I have no reason to disbelieve what she tells me. She is also only allowed to leave with a customer after 4.00am.
Taxi back to the hotel – by this time I feel I know most of the HK taxi drivers. This time I knock it off – she is a wow in bed. Enough said and she leaves at 9.30am as arranged. I can’t wait to meet her the next night.
At this point I work out that I have spent HK$3100 in my first night – too much. We (my mates included) agree we have to go easy on Tuesday night. HK$2100 is on drink – mainly ladies drinks. My mates are not much better off financially. A bit more care is required.
We hit the well known spots on Tuesday, but again it is fairly quiet. I meet Shirly (24 years of age) in Galaxy and am looking forward to another night with her when she reminds me she cannot come to my hotel until 4.00am. Would that be OK with me? Certainly not but we part on good terms with the potential to meet up later. Cut a long story short – we (the mates) all head back to the hotel about 2.00am – we are truly knackered. An early night for all is a good idea – backed up by the bank manager as well. At 4.00am Shirly phones – can she come over? I have to decline.
Wednesday night arrives and off we all go. I bump into Nonette – she still loves me and wants me but she has met a friend who is buying her drinks and she says she will see me later. I leave the door open. I meet Shirly who is agitated that I can’t wait until the bewitching hour of 4.00am for her. Things are not looking too good but there art plenty of others who are making the usual approaches in the bars. I decide on a change of plan – get their numbers for later in case of emergencies. I meet Nonette again – her friend is still buying her drinks and she tells me it is the wrong time of the month for her – can I meet her in a couple of days? I wish her all the best and delete her number from my phone.
Its getting late – plan B gets put into place. I phone Winnie whose number I got in Neptunes earlier – she is still there. I meet her – she wants me to take her friend as well but I am not into twosomes – it takes me all my time to handle one although the thought was appealing. No drinks are bought and we agree HK$1000 for 3 hours. She is 34 with 2 kids and in the bar talked too much. Back at the hotel she was amazing – totally different and we had a great time. All the usual positions, starting of with a BBBJ, then 69. I let her go – a happy man - before the 3 hours was up. I have a fall back for the rest of the week if needed.
Overall, even in the couple of months since I was here last year, things have changed – and my mates agree. The quality is so-so and variable. I know it’s a business for the girls but this has not always been so obvious and “in your face” as in the past. Without question, places are quieter - they are not as busy as they used to be. The “trafficking” and “control” over the non-freelancers is something I have not seen before, although always suspected was going on in the background. Not allowing girls out during the day is new to me however. Anyone els come up against this?
Maybe I’m just getting older and losing my touch.
The experiences of my mates so far has also not been all that different to mine.
More to follow[/QUOTE]


Dude, those of us with short attention spans, eating dinner, watching the news or otherwise easily distracted, need to see paragraphs without run on sentences. I'm surprised Jackson has not jumped all over you about that.

I normally avail myself of the opportunities in Wanchai, but decided to make my second trip to the Kowloon side for a couple of reasons, one is called Mongolian and the second is CIS/ FSU, and with the hope that maybe a stray Brazilian or Columbian with a better attitude might be found. Well, it was not to B.

Entered Hari's about 8, to take advantage of the happy hour pricing and to see what early offerings might be available. Another esteemed member of the board met me and we moved to the bar area. There were a few ladies at this early hour, trying to catch the before dinner crowd. The only one that really caught my eye was an exotic looking Russian lady, not "hot" in the normal since, but certainly a different look. As we were leaving to go to dinner, I asked her from where she hailed and she said "Russia", I inquired where and she responded "eastern". Anyway, I said I hoped to see her when I returned later in the evening and she gave me her number.

After a corned beef and cabbage at the Irish Pub, we went to Stickyfingers, not much in the way of girls around, but the band is great. That is if you like 80's R+R cover bands. The lead guitarist is off the hook and I really enjoyed their rendition of "Free Bird". There was one gal in a black outfit that truly looked like she just walked off the cover of a fashion magazine. She gave a couple of looks, but as we were leaving she went out for a smoke and that ended my interest other than to see what she looked like close up. As it turns out she and her girlfriend were also from Russia.

My partner in crime had to go to work, so he headed home and I returned to Hari's hoping for an improvement in the opportunities. It was not to B. The Russian and her friend were still there, and a few more gals including one cute and "active" Fili gal, but not a "northern sister" in sight. Nor a So. American beauty. I inquired from the Russian about pricing and to my chagrin was greeted by a large number in USD! I asked it that was for the two of them for a couple of days. She smiled and said, "no only for one for a few hours and only if you are staying close by. "

It was obvious that we weren't going to get to an agreement, and she said to let her know if I changed my mind. The cute Filli came over and we chatted, I don't know for sure, but I suspect she was over 30 and would have had a hard time getting much attention in Wanchai, but she could dance and we aren't in Wanchai.

After a few minutes I asked about her "donation levels" and again was quoted in USD. I asked if I was lost, because I don't carry dollars, and I only wanted her company for a evening not two days. She also was not amused.

I never did see one of the objects of my desires, and understanding market issues was prepared to pay a little more, but not for a product inferior to what I could get with a 15 min cab ride.

At the end I went home alone and felt good about that decision. I will go back occasionally to check for a specific type of lady, but it seems the hunting is like real estate pricing. Location, location, location!

Hi,

I just arrive in HK. I know where I can go to get extra, but after the long flight, I just want to get a good massage to get the kink out of my back.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Lookingforlust]Hi,

I just arrive in HK. I know where I can go to get extra, but after the long flight, I just want to get a good massage to get the kink out of my back.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I'd recommend the Blue Sky sauna at Causeway Bay Plaza - this is an old favourite of mine. They have several girls that can do a really, really good veggie massage, but all sorts of extras are on the menu too if you feel like it.

They don't do the hard-sell though. You can have just the massage and walk out without any hassle.

Ask for 61, the Shanghai girl. Her massage is terrific. Or just ask the papa for any girl that does a good, ordinary massage.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]JOverall, even in the couple of months since I was here last year, things have changed – and my mates agree. The quality is so-so and variable. I know it’s a business for the girls but this has not always been so obvious and “in your face” as in the past. Without question, places are quieter - they are not as busy as they used to be. [/QUOTE]

Okay, I am visiting in April and budgeting $2000HK per day including Wanchai. I have to ask since I like your posts Jack: How the hell did you or your friend spend $3100HK in one night? $2100HK for drinks you said?

At Christmas, I was picky and usually spent no more than $1500HK per night or $1000HK per night. Apart from one bad 2 girl experience, and one Filipino asking $2000HK for the night at 2 AM, things were mellow and quiet and required a lot more work than last year.

I have a few girls from last year and last Christmas lined up already but there's no way I'm paying more than $1500HK LT per night.

Typically I do not waste a lot of time in the bars. I usually scope out the girl I like and buy her a drink and then seal the deal. I'm not one to buy loads of drinks and make chitchat all night in the bars. And I tended to not even bother showing up until after midnight.

[QUOTE=Basah]Thought I would offer this for what it is worth...

I post this just as a warning ... we think that it is a freebie situation, but it isn't, even if we are not paying for it. You're always paying for it one way or another and it is important not to lose sight of that. The girls are there for the money, or the potential for the money down the road. They will lie cheat and steal from you with very little (read: no) remorse. Realize that it is all a game for them, as that is what their upbringing and situation requires. I had thought that one could take the bar out of the girl, in some instances, but I was wrong.[/QUOTE]Extremely valuable post.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I normally avail myself of the opportunities in Wanchai, but decided to make my second trip to the Kowloon side for a couple of reasons, one is called Mongolian...[/QUOTE]I think the Mongol Gals will be back in April. They were in town "on mass" mid Jan but went home for the holidays.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]After a few minutes I asked about her "donation levels" and again was quoted in USD. I asked if I was lost, because I don't carry dollars, and I only wanted her company for a evening not two days. She also was not amused.[/QUOTE]Wow, I haven't been asked for USD$ for ages, years in fact, especially at Hari's.

Yeah I was surprised as well, especially twice in one night! The last time I even considered dollars was with a Phils gal when I didn't have the correct amount of HKD's left and asked her if USD was okay to save a trip to the ATM.

Thanks for the "northern sisters" update, I expected that they went home for CNY, but hoped they had returned. I will give it a whirl after the 7's leave town!

Does anyone know about what a scalped ticket to one day of the 7's will cost?
I have never been to a rugby match when I wasn't a participant(LONG time ago) and thought I would give it a go, if it isn't outrageous. TIA