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[QUOTE=WildHawk;2017679]While this is perhaps one of the least-shaky videos from inside Thermae, I'm not much of a fan of this particular auteur, and his penchant for videotaping our negotiations to put up for all the world to see.

But at about 4:30 to 5:20 (best shot at 4:46) good memories are conjured up. She's in cutoff jeans, striped low-cut shirt (the one toward the right, on the left side of the room). Lovely smile, delicious girl who was eager to please. (I had picked her up outside Thermae after 3 am) If you should encounter, do enjoy, be extra nice to her.

And, yes, she does farang.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcM[/URL][/QUOTE]It does show tha variation between girls dressed to show their figure and those dressed to hide the figure completely. Cut off jeans shorts is good in this situation.

The video is a bit boring of course, so just watch the first few minutes is enough. Author could have editted it down to much shorter. The part I liked was the very start with girl in dress outside. I wanted to see her face better. Looked interesting maybe.

Shows mongers can be caught on film in crowded places. Danger. A girl on Soi 4 that I know well appeared in you tube in a similar way. Watch out for Asian guys (mostly) carrying anything strange that could have a hidden camera.

At least it is a video. Some guys post a video comprised of still shots, zooming in and out, with loud music. That is far too gimmicky for me.

[QUOTE=SteveOak;2017573]I searched on for a bona (er) fide spinner. This landed me at Butterfly. There were two shifts of girls for the stages, about 10 for each of the two stages going so 40 or so girls dancing. There were only about 20 guys so it worked pretty well, except that there was only one girl I considered attractive (4' 10", 80 lbs, great ass) but she already had an admirer. #232 I think, if you are interested. I didn't see another girl in the place that was even a 6.

After her shift on stage she went right to him, talked for a bit and then did some bumping and grinding. Half way through her next shift on stage he waved good by and left. Go figure.

We had been making eye contact so when she got off stage she drifted my way and when she looked at me I waved her in. She glided over and curled up next to me like she had been with me for years. I too less than a minute for her to start fondling me. Very nice.

I bought her two drinks before she went back on stage. When she finished the second shift she came straight back and wrapped herself around me. We talked shop for a minute. She asked for 3,000. A bit high for a Sunday night but not out of line. I tend to either be pretty much accepting of their number, unless it is out of line, and negotiate the extras I like.

I do have one proclivity that I can usually find a girl to accommodate but she would not. She kept trying to get me to find her out and I kept trying to get to to accommodate me but it was just not going to happen. Next time she was I stage, I waved goodbye and left.

I wandered down Sukhumvit and into Thermae, my backup spot. If I haven't found a girl somewhere else I can usually find a girl there that meets my minimum standards for looks and will accommodate me as well. It was a pretty good night as only 2 girls refused to talk to me, 7 quoted me a price for short time but non would accommodate me. I was hitting only ones that were very good or better so that is about average.

I was about to make another round when everyone started scrambling for the door like a fire drill. First a wave toward the back door, then another wave toward the front door. I fell in and joined the evacuation. Never did find out why it happened but I was not going to stick around and get caught in something. I am sure someone here will hear that scoop and post it.

As luck would have it the girl on the step in front of me was still shorter than me, even though she was on the next step. I followed her and her friend to the sidewalk. When it looked though there was no danger from a raid or something, I said Hello, and asked for a price. She quoted 2,500 and was agreeable to accommodating me. Nice!

For those wondering how good my eyeball scale is, I weighed her in the hotel room. 40.12 kilos. I will try harder next time. LOL And she was under 1.5 meters tall too.[/QUOTE]What are your requirements for "accommodation?

I asked the pretty young Issan single mother girl aged 21, why she had a baby so quick. Still at school studying. Would have been 19 when pregnant.

She said, that if a girl waits till age 30, might be very difficult to have a baby. She had a baby by see section so pussy still tight but scar. Has to be hooker now to support baby, sister, and sister's baby, and schooling not finished.

Amazing mess girls get into with Thai boys that disappear. Why rhey can't sensibly use borth control is a mystery but I blame it on poor education and social values. High percenange of hookers are single mothers. Most of the rest have pimps or are drug users, I guess. Not many sensible girls just paying for education and staying out of trouble.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017360]I don't see it as a positive when a hooker grabs my arm. O.k. At least means she is not avoiding me. I like to be the one choosing. Prefer shyer girls.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty shy myself, so if the girl is shy too, the probability that we don't end up together goes sky-high. It's more a matter of personality.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017360]I probably don't have the xray eyes. I find it very hard to tell how good heavily covered tits are without touching. Coyote girl tits are always a bit mystery. Which is why I hardly take them.[/QUOTE]I grope and fondle quite a bit. I'm pretty tolerant about tit sizes, so my number one goal is to make sure she's not fat, and my roving hands have yet to fail me on that front.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017360]I used to get star fish in bars sometimes, but very few lately since I guess my girl evaluation skills have improved. Key is not to pull the trigger too fast.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's definitely the key. We should have a 10-minute rule: never pull a girl out of a bar unless you've been with her at least 10 minutes.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017360]There is the danger of dick scared girls, in bars and even more so in Soapies because they are too used to Thai customers. I guess this should be less of a danger if most Spasso customers are Farangs? Is that the case or are there a lot of Japanese and Korean customers?[/QUOTE]I saw mostly Farangs at Spasso.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017360]I can see a club like Spasso is a much better option than blindly taking an escort.[/QUOTE]I've never done escorts in Bangkok but I agree with your conclusion.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;2017830]I'm pretty shy myself, so if the girl is shy too, the probability that we don't end up together goes sky-high. It's more a matter of personality.

Yes, that's definitely the key. We should have a 10-minute rule: never pull a girl out of a bar unless you've been with her at least 10 minutes.
[/QUOTE]I am not shy about approaching hookers. Maybe shy and about touching the tits unless I am quite sure will be welcome. I can certainly compensate for very shy girls, without aggressively scaring them too much usually. Then you try to get 2 or 3 tequilas into them, to liven them up a bit. LOL

I probably extend your 10 minute rule to 60 minutes in a gogo bar most times, unless I am scared that she is so gorgeous she will be quickly BFed by somebody else. That means normally she sits with me at least two breaks between dancing 20 min sets before I decide. Have been known to break the rule but not that often. Plenty of girls did not get BFed the first time met them, but put it off to a subsequent meeting. That is how careful I started to become about chemistry going well. If girl tries to rush me, I tend to back off.

Only certain very pretty girls have caused me to break the 60 rule at Crazy House, being Nat (also had amazing tits), Donut stunning, and May-Lee very pretty. Fortunately by luck both Nat and Donut were really good, and while May-lee was too timid first time, a few drinks rectified that the 2nd time, making her become much more passionate and into it (lucky I tried again). I may have forgotten some more unfortunate rushed choices in the past.

I went to Climaxx yesterday at about 1:30 am To have a few drinks, with the clear intention not to take a girl because I had to recover between two escort sessions on Sunday and Monday. I should have known better, never make plans when you are in Bangkok.

I had just entered the club and was waiting for the waitress to bring me my first drink as I saw a very cute girl in a belly top dancing next to me. I thought she was about 23 (turned out to be 25), maybe 40 kg with a very cute face. I would rate her a 9 BTW. I was just saying to myself "stay strong, you have other plans" when another girl (turned out to be her older sister) purposely pushed her from behind so that we crashed right into each other. The older girl knew that her sister was a little bit shy so she decided to further the cause a little bit. Due to the crash we had to talk to each other, started dancing together and I immediately knew I wasn't strong enough to stick to my plan and had to take her home. She told me her name was Noi, from Laos. I bought a few drinks for her and me and also one for her sister (2 K including tips), and we stayed until 3:30.

It turned out that she had a somewhat strange humor, when we were driving through soi 4 we saw a lot of leftover ladyboys she asked "do you like ladyboy? Because I am ladyboy". After the first shock evaporated I got she was joking (or maybe testing me), because no way that cute little thingy was a ladyboy. Back in the hotel I put on some music and she was dancing for me on the furniture, jumped from the bed to the table like a little monkey. Damn was that sexy, although I had fears she would fall as she was pretty drunk. However when she lied down on the bed (in full clothing) she fell asleep pretty quickly, so I knew that was it for the night, no shot fired. The reward came when we woke up at 11 am, very nice GFE, felt like genuine affection (or oscar-ripe acting, but I don't think so). I don't think you can buy that from a Soi 4 freelancer. She had to leave for her day job in a restaurant shortly after (which I was happy about as I already had an appointment with Bell from Bangkogoldenescort for 2 pm). Before she left I asked her about her line ID and gave her 3 K which she seemed very happy about. Will meet her again tonight for a dinner date.

Total damage was 6 K, which includes 1 K joiners fee for the goddamned hotel (see Bangkok Hotels thread), steep, but I felt it was worth it.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017748]I asked the pretty young Issan single mother girl aged 21, why she had a baby so quick. Still at school studying. Would have been 19 when pregnant.

She said, that if a girl waits till age 30, might be very difficult to have a baby. She had a baby by see section so pussy still tight but scar. Has to be hooker now to support baby, sister, and sister's baby, and schooling not finished.

Amazing mess girls get into with Thai boys that disappear. Why rhey can't sensibly use borth control is a mystery but I blame it on poor education and social values. High percenange of hookers are single mothers. Most of the rest have pimps or are drug users, I guess. Not many sensible girls just paying for education and staying out of trouble.[/QUOTE]Seems to be a very common situation in Thailand. Working people support the whole family. Lazy people are supported by siblings and children. Stop working at young age and let children support parents and lazy relatives. From my limited exposure to Thai culture, this seems to encourage having many children at a young age. Who knows, you may have a daughter that lands a rich farang who will support the whole family?

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2017679]While this is perhaps one of the least-shaky videos from inside Thermae, I'm not much of a fan of this particular auteur, and his penchant for videotaping our negotiations to put up for all the world to see.

But at about 4:30 to 5:20 (best shot at 4:46) good memories are conjured up. She's in cutoff jeans, striped low-cut shirt (the one toward the right, on the left side of the room). Lovely smile, delicious girl who was eager to please. (I had picked her up outside Thermae after 3 am) If you should encounter, do enjoy, be extra nice to her.

And, yes, she does farang.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NczOig0hcM[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for posting because I have heard a lot about the place but have never been there. Now I know I won't bother to go there because the vast majority of the providers are just average looking at best. If the Japs, Chinks and Kinks get the cream of the crop then they can have them.

[QUOTE=RalphKramden;2017931]Thank you for posting because I have heard a lot about the place but have never been there. Now I know I won't bother to go there because the vast majority of the providers are just average looking at best. If the Japs, Chinks and Kinks get the cream of the crop then they can have them.[/QUOTE]Come now, you don't get a very fair impression of the best looking girls there, since majority of girls passed by the camera, had their heads cut off. However it is just possible that you would not really like that many girls. I usually found a pretty small number appealed and most of those were not looking for a Farang. If you like Baccara girls, you might just like Thermae too.

First up a quick look in Crazy House where none of my girls had turned up for today. Some girls are already heading out of Bangkok in preparation for Songkran coming in just over a week. One girl I know went home to Savanakhet (Laos) today.

Went to Corner Bar Soi Cowboy with live Thai band, and stayed a little longer than intended. I had intended it to be very brief and move on to Twisters. Band were so-so but I thought quite a bit better than bands I had seen at Bangkok Beat previously. Sound quality and volume was a bit more acceptable than Bangkok Beat. I really went in to visit ex Crazy House waitress Aem, who is short with bandy legs and big natural tits (not having seen them uncovered). A big drinker for a little girl. Used to look after me very well at CH.

Before too long it became apparent that she wanted me to BF her and her fat friend. LOL Yeh right. Firstly I don't do fat girls. 2nd, I was not expecting to BF anyone so had been drinking alcohol that I normally stay off.

Aem does not look ugly but has slightly funny ears and hips. Anyway there were several reasons not to fuck her. We both had more to drink than we should, she has kid (s) and I have no clue what her body will look like naked, I already had a fuck today, etc. Maybe I will reconsider another day when we are both more sober. And what if the fuck turns out to be not good for some reason, or bad mummy tummy? Today I went in there just thinking she would be a waitress and not a barfinable hostess. Probably shows I don't know this bar at all.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2017997]Come now, you don't get a very fair impression of the best looking girls there, since majority of girls passed by the camera, had their heads cut off. However it is just possible that you would not really like that many girls. I usually found a pretty small number appealed and most of those were not looking for a Farang. If you like Baccara girls, you might just like Thermae too.[/QUOTE]It is always in the eye of the beholder, but Ralph's point is fair enough; we may be heightening the image of the Thermae girls by their very selectiveness, in terms of their penchant for rejecting farang. I suspect the videographer is Caucasian by virtue of the fact that few, if any of the girls are looking in the camera's (his) direction. I did not make may way inside Thermae (again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a farang, but pointed to her friend and said, "She will," and the girl was ear-to-ear smile; knowing what I know about her, I'd pick her out of the Thermae lineup in a heartbeat and she'd make a great three-day travel companion, even with her barely existent English.) Thermae does look like a nice shopping venue, or at least something to check out once. Now, the old Lisboa racetrack it ain't. *sigh* Those were the days.

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2018076]It is always in the eye of the beholder, but Ralph's point is fair enough; we may be heightening the image of the Thermae girls by their very selectiveness, in terms of their penchant for rejecting farang. I suspect the videographer is Caucasian by virtue of the fact that few, if any of the girls are looking in the camera's (his) direction. I did not make may way inside Thermae (again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a farang, but pointed to her friend and said, "She will," and the girl was ear-to-ear smile; knowing what I know about her, I'd pick her out of the Thermae lineup in a heartbeat and she'd make a great three-day travel companion, even with her barely existent English.) Thermae does look like a nice shopping venue, or at least something to check out once. Now, the old Lisboa racetrack it ain't. *sigh* Those were the days.[/QUOTE]While you were willing to take a left over girl who in turn was willing to do a Farang, many of us don't work that way. I tend to survey the entire room quickly and then only speak to the most appealing girl. There is only so many times I will get told she is waiting for someone else or does not take Farangs or has a surcharge for Farangs before I give it away, rather than go to a girl giving the right signals.

I have taken two girls in recent times. Both were no repeat type girls for one reason or another. One did not kiss the other had silicones and some other problem.

In the end I decided that the hunt for a fabulous girl was too difficult. I can find girls that are the right look for me and giving more passionate GFE elsewhere.

The other problem is I take too much time to evaluate looks and chemistry. You have little time to make a decision in the Thermae. The best lookers get grabbed by Japanese very fast, usually right before I decide to approach a girl. I was often a fraction too slow taking too long to decide which girl I like.

The mediocre girls can stand there and be available for a very long time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2018198]While you were willing to take a left over girl who in turn was willing to do a Farang, many of us don't work that way. ....The mediocre girls can stand there and be available for a very long time.[/QUOTE]Perhaps in the exchange I didn't quite hit the correct note, dear esteemed Leader (and I follow your posts). There was nothing to the concept of accepting "a leftover. " I stumbled across the girl, having exhausted Soi Cowboy with the lights turned up on me. Whether the girl was a "leftover" or not (who knows, she may have had serviced 20 3-3-3 Japs previously that day. Numerically possible owing to the quickness of the lads of that once kingdom) is immaterial My point is that not all of these girls are inaccessible. Thermae, inside, outside, sideways or otherwise, I was pleased with her looks, the way she carried herself at the buffet line at the breakfast, and most importantly, in bed *5 star*. Merely trying to point out that one must not fear that Thermae is nothing but a Japtrap. There is hope for us all. Mediocre? Not at all. Not even close.

[QUOTE=WildHawk;2018244]Perhaps in the exchange I didn't quite hit the correct note. There was nothing to the concept of accepting "a leftover. " I stumbled across the girl, having exhausted Soi Cowboy with the lights turned up on me. Merely trying to point out that one must not fear that Thermae is nothing but a Japtrap. There is hope for us all. Mediocre? Not at all. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Okay I may have made the wrong assumption, re her standing outside at 3 am. However it was based on your own text:

"again, the girl I pulled was a leftover, and discovered outside after 3 am; one of her compatriots had actually told me that she would not go with a Farang, but pointed to her friend and said, She will, and the girl was ear-to-ear smile. ".

I have taken girls outside the Thermae myself in the far past, and had them turn out very well. They might not have been quite the Japanese spec. In the video, the one girl that tweaked my interest was the one at the very start outside in the light pink dress, although the video was not showing her face too clearly, so I may have lost interest if I met her.

I do accept that Thermae is not just a JapTrap. However it is probably not the best hunting ground for myself, given my reluctance to pull the trigger on new untried girls that may or may not give a great GFE.

Your girl was probably not my spec that I would quickly select, so I won't chase after her in a hurry. Not important. That she turned out great for you, is the important bit. It is possible to get great girls in Thermae. I just have found it difficult for me, recently. It then comes to a question of how much time and money I want to waste there on non selections or wrong selections. I have a list of girls I like to use on my LINE App. Much easier and performance is known.

The total number of different girls I have fucked in Thailand this year is relatively low, and total number tried for first time, is only like two or three, that I can think of. So I am doing 90%+ repeats. Very boring for some but okay For me. I don't have the same thirst as others to be always trying a new girl. This generally means that only girls I see as "must do" girls, or girls known for a while but not yet fucked, will get tried for first time, unless I am desperate for a fuck (can happen).

Crazy House last night had none of my preferred girls. My buddy had his regular girls there. No problem, I can just move on, unfucked. That is what usually happens at Thermae for me this year. I just move on unfucked. Frequency of visits declines. I just did not get the success to keep me keen.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2018248]The total number of different girls I have fucked in Thailand this year is relatively low, and total number tried for first time, is only like two or three, that I can think of. So I am doing 90%+ repeats. Very boring for some but okay For me. I don't have the same thirst as others to be always trying a new girl. This generally means that only girls I see as "must do" girls, or girls known for a while but not yet fucked, will get tried for first time, unless I am desperate for a fuck (can happen)..[/QUOTE]I hear you and feel and share your pain. The p4 p scene is just not that good these days. I partake about every two to three weeks these days. And usually it is either a compromise with looks or performance. As I get older I am less willing to compromise on either, so I only tend to go for a sesh when I am really horned up. Even then most times I come away from the event thinking that I could have had a wank and saved the money.