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[QUOTE=Mike De H]I am the same.. I prefer to have a break because you get desensitised to naked flesh and a break refreshes your eyes. Also, if I have FKK food for two days in a row, I terrible heartburn for the next week! I also can not buy anti-acids or Bicarb in Germany because I just can't find them! So if anybody can give me info on this it would be great.

Now, I think it would be useful and constructive to complie a list of useful restaurants near the main FKK places.

I have not been to one in several years... near World however, there used to be a "Cuban Cafe" that did great non-alcoholic cocktails and great "finger food" that left you really satisfied. It was in Linden, up the main road fromthe Etap. Also there is the Usual Fast Food stuff there in Grossen Linden.

Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]From Oase, there is a place called Lindenhof in Friedrichsdorf which is quite good.

From Palace, I usually take the U Bahn to Bockenheimerwarte. The are a plethora of choice. I like Doctor Flotte which is a bit of a dive, but serves a great Schnitzel.

From F39, I like Die Eule in downtown Bochum. Of course, F39 you cannot leave and return (or they set a very restrictive time period like 30 minutes). I usually finish up by about 8PM and have dinner when finished with FKKing.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]

BTW, if visiting Acapulco, I would suggest you read BC and my trip reports. The club works for me as I have broad tastes. Didn't work for BC as the lineup did not meet visual requirements.[/QUOTE]Acapulco was included because it falls under the 'money well spent' catagory. Cheap to get into, looks to be a decent size club...but its also close to several other clubs that i've visited or would like to check out.

[QUOTE=ThaCTJohn]This might sound crazy but how are African American males viewed in Germany and is marijuana legal in Germany.[/QUOTE]
Marijuana is not legal in Germany. Someone probably has better information about rules governing posession and what amounts are allowed, what fines and penalties are but you are best off visiting the Netherlands if this is a motivating factor.

A friend of mine who is African American and lived in Germany for years enjoyed a special status while he was there. Germans have a thing for African American culture (contemporary R&B music, for one) and he was always very well treated. He has a weakness for German blondes and was able to pursue this interest to his hearts content. It helps a lot that he speaks fluent German and is quite a talker.

Africans from Africa though are placed in a different category.

Two colleagues I can think of on this forum are probably in a better position to fill you in on how black men are received: DJ For Money (I can't remember if this is one word or two) and Dark Vader (who is a major, major PT fiend).

Agreed that stereotypes are harmful but if you are well endowed and long lasting you would actually be a minor sensation at certain PTs.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]A friend of mine who is African American and lived in Germany for years enjoyed a special status while he was there. Germans have a thing for African American culture (contemporary R&B music, for one) and he was always very well treated. He has a weakness for German blondes and was able to pursue this interest to his hearts content. It helps a lot that he speaks fluent German and is quite a talker. [/QUOTE]

Jackyo is correct. Germans in general love black people. Some FKKs actually offer the black people free entry. F39 and Golden Time are two of them. A black man can pretty much pick up any German woman anytime.

Seriously, the truth is far more nuanced than portrayed.

The Germans are no worse than anyone else in the world as far as I can tell, but there are some issues. In the FKK world, there are some clubs that may turn you away. There are racists in Germany just as there are racists in the USA. Many of them are of an older generation and as such the problem is being addressed by them dying off of old age. Just like the US. I will say that I have perceived that the Germans strive to have a tolerant culture. I also sense that there is an undertone that this is done somewhat to atone for what transpired around the middle of the last century.

The other side of the coin is the skinheads or neo-nazis. While not large in numbers, they do exist. Last time I ran into skinheads in Germany was 2002. I was walking with a female friend in downtown Nuremburg. We are both white and by our appearance and dress could easily have been mistaken for a middle aged German couple. We were both students in the Goethe Institut at the time and were speaking in English to each other. As we walked down the street, a group of male voices start swearing at us in German. I turned to swear back (in German of course). She grabbed me and said "let it go, keep walking". It was then that I realized it was a group of skinheads. One even had a swastika tattooed on his forehead. Back then, my impression was you were more likely to encounter skinheads in the former DDR. I haven't encountered a skinhead since.

I was curious if the movement had pretty much died out so I googled "Germany skinhead 2009". I found there was a demonstration in Dresden of 6000 neo-nazi, skinheads, and othe anti-immigrant folks on the 64th anniversary of the firebombing of Dresden. I don't think these folks are likely to be overly friendly.

It's possible you could go to Germany and never encounter any of this. Just like a middle easterner could come to the US and never encounter any racial issues.

As far as German fluency, those that hate you for race really aren't going to be swayed by whether you get der/die/das right.

I frankly see more racism in this forum than I encounter in when traveling in Germany. Try searching the Germany FKK forum for "Turk" or "foreigner" some time.

Which FKK's allow shower facilities where you can bathe with the girl?

Do the rooms that you go to have bedsheets that are changed between sessions? Concerned about hygiene.

Do the girls brush their teeth and clean out their mouth and do they shower between sessions?

Seems a bit icky, and curious about cleanliness as they switch from monger to monger.

Tom

[quote=stakeout]i find it hard to recuperate inbetween sessions.

what can you take to help speed up the sperm production?

any good supplements?

vitamins?[/quote]

hi stakeout,

to recuperate between sessions, i at times take a nap, have some food and as many drinks as my body says it wants. i also go for a sauna, cold shower, steam room, whirl pool, take a dip in the swimming pool if the facilities allow. then more drinks and chats with companions. this is done to use up time between sessions and is also a relaxing ritual. by the time all this is done i am nearly ready for another session. a few girls have commented to me that taking time is the way to refill the sperm fluid banks before another session.

one of my fave girls has refused me once before since it was only 1.5 hours since i did her last and she was not going to do me again until say 2-3 hours had passed since our last session. most girls do not care how long ago your last session was.

a friendly ijsbeer i know said he went with one pretty brunette croatian girl that i also had the hots for.
he was asked by the croatian girl, "how many sessions have you had before me?"
the ijsbeer said that, "i have been with four girls already today at golden time before you."
the girl replied loudly, "fuck, now i have to work!".

what i do of taking time between sessions is not based on any scientific advice but time seems to work for me.

it is best that you consult your general practitioner or go to a specialist in penis matters for the best advice.

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]Which FKK's allow shower facilities where you can bathe with the girl?

Do the rooms that you go to have bedsheets that are changed between sessions? Concerned about hygiene.

Do the girls brush their teeth and clean out their mouth and do they shower between sessions?

Seems a bit icky, and curious about cleanliness as they switch from monger to monger.

Tom[/QUOTE]

Hi Tomm Boyytoyy,

I am not sure if your first question is aimed at being able to have an assisted shower with a girl or you like the voyeuristic aspect of watching girls bathing.

In some FKKs there are shower facilities that are communal and mean that the men folk are able to shower with the girls at time.

FKK World has locker rooms where some of the ladies lockers are shared with the men’s lockers. The girls do have their own shower room at World but that is on the other side of the building away from the locker room where the men change and shower in. So to save the trip to the other side of the building some girls will shower in the men’s locker room showers. There you can see a naked girl getting scrubbed up but most men just mind their own business and let the woman be rather than stand their open mouthed and ogling.

In the end if you are really insistent on being able to bathe with women you might ask to pay some girls to come shower with you.

At Sauna club Golden Time, once again, the locker room is shared with some of the girls. You will see at times the girls showering alongside the men. The girls also sometimes at the end of the evening in the showers in the sauna and whirlpool area as those showers are closer to the ladies’ main locker rooms.

A write up of an incident where I showered with a girl at Golden Time is described in the attached link:

Golden Time [post]871780[/post]

If you want a specific girl to shower with you then it may help if you ask her if she minded doing so.

The clubs that I know that use fresh bed sheets for each session is FKK Palace, Villa Vertigo and Golden Time.

Girls are meant to bathe in between sessions but the extent that they do depends. A girl would have spent a lot of time putting on make up on her face and moisturizing. For girls to be showering constantly and thoroughly, will remove the benefits of that moisturizing, and there would be an adverse impact on her make up and not to mention her hair. Expect most girls to bathe in between sessions but not whole body I think.

As to the girls brushing their teeth in between session is a bit much to ask. Too much tooth brushing grinds down and ruins the enamel. Expect at least the girls to use mouth wash after each session and you can even see girls use a mouth wash during but mainly after a session if she has been kissing you or been sucking your schwanz to completion.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]Hi Tomm Boyytoyy,


As to the girls brushing their teeth in between session is a bit much to ask. Too much tooth brushing grinds down and ruins the enamel. Expect at least the girls to use mouth wash after each session and you can even see girls use a mouth wash during but mainly after a session if she has been kissing you or been sucking your schwanz to completion.[/QUOTE]

Hello BC, see you soon, can't wait.

Brushing the teeth can be very dangerous to girls who are taking loads of semen into their mouths. Bleeding gums, which most of us acquire to varying degrees after brushing, is an ideal portal for entry of HIV and Hepatitis C. I always refrain from brushing at the clubs ( not that I am taking semen LOL) , instead using Listerine mouthwash after a vigorous water rinse after meals, and at any time during the day I consume massive quantities of Listerine Pocket Packs, the Listerine impregnated gelatin wisps that dissolve instantly in your mouth, killing germs and freshening one's breath. Many is the girl who has appropriated my entire Pocket Pack when offerred one before a session.

Sadly, I have yet to find a girl who will allow me to place one on my tongue and then lick her muschi.

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]Which FKK's allow shower facilities where you can bathe with the girl? [/QUOTE]
Some of the rooms upstairs at Villa Vertigo have en-suite showers. If that's your thing, I'm pretty sure that you could ask for some shower play to be included.
While not an FKK, TraumParadise in Spich has en-suite showers in all of its rooms and the action actually can start during your pre-session shower.

Interesting. Is Traum Paradise reviewed on this board? I searched but could not find it. They have some nice girls, but the pricing is not mentioned. They only mention no entrance fee, but does not say the price of the session, perhaps that's where they really get you.

1) Any idea on session pricing

2) Any reviews or knowledge on whether the info on their site and pics are factually correct.

Thanks Iseeu for your excellent replies as always.

Tom

[While not an FKK, TraumParadise in Spich has en-suite showers in all of its rooms and the action actually can start during your pre-session shower.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]Which FKK's allow shower facilities where you can bathe with the girl?[/QUOTE]

Some of the rooms upstairs at FKK Atlantik in Hanau have en-suite showers. Just be aware that this forum rarely speaks favorably of this club.

Do the shower facilities need to be in private rooms? I think many girls would not mind taking a shower in the men's shower facilities. Just ask. Also, many clubs provide shower facilites with semi-privacy (on quiet days that is), like
- Palace: The shower outside the steamroom. There is also another outside the sauna.
- World: The shower behind the jacuzzi downstairs.
- Bernd's: The downstairs showers.
- Oase: The showers by the steamroom.
All places mentioned above provide good places for hygienic purposes, foreplay and fooling around. If she will actually do the deed there too is an open question. But if that is your thing, simply ask the girl.

Is jacuzzi off-topic? If not, Bernd's and FKK Atlantik do have private rooms with jacuzzi. I think maybe World too?

Tomm Boyytoyy

To find reviews on Traum Paradies go to the Cologne thread.

Theres loads of info. I did a visit soley based on the info I read on this site.

Z

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]Which FKK's allow shower facilities where you can bathe with the girl?

Do the rooms that you go to have bedsheets that are changed between sessions? Concerned about hygiene.

Do the girls brush their teeth and clean out their mouth and do they shower between sessions?

Seems a bit icky, and curious about cleanliness as they switch from monger to monger.

Tom[/QUOTE]

ColA has shower facilities in the rooms as I remember.

Each room at Palace has a drawer with fresh sheets. The girls put them on the bed before the session. Most other clubs use towels for basic bed hygiene.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Some of the rooms upstairs at Villa Vertigo have en-suite showers. If that's your thing, I'm pretty sure that you could ask for some shower play to be included.
While not an FKK, TraumParadise in Spich has en-suite showers in all of its rooms and the action actually can start during your pre-session shower.[/QUOTE]
Personnally I had a bath with Yvonne (she does not work any more) in a bathtube at Villa Vertigo.
But I'm afraid that in general, without extras, the proposal should come from the ladies.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]This forum has served (and still serves) to funnel folks to a handful of clubs.

Should we all just tow the party line and urge dudes to visit just this handful of clubs? [/QUOTE]

Geography funnels folks to a handful of clubs. It certainly funnels newbees to Palace. Frankfurt is the international transportation hub of Germany. Yes, Dusseldorf and Munich are lesser hubs, but for many (myself included), Frankfurt is the most convenient entry point into Germany. You can exit Frankfurt customs and get to Palace, change, shower and be talking to nude cuties in under an hour. You don't need to worry about German as you can navigate Frankfurt public transport easily with no knowledge of German. It is likely to be at least 50% of newbees first port of call for that reason alone.

I actually suggest we ask newbees what is important to them and offer advise based on that. Be aware many non-German speakers are not comfortable driving on the autobahn and finding their way around Germany.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]IMHO, this is a disservice to consumers, particularly to newbies who have limited comparisons to go by.[/QUOTE]

I don't see why. There is plenty written about the advantages and disadvantages of the various clubs.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]In the end, it is still [i]caveat emptor[/i]. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt.

Maybe we should all be publishing disclaimers after each post proclaiming "The views expressed herein represent personal opinions." [/QUOTE]

And for some, a salt lick rather than a grain might be in order.

Rather than a disclaimer, if you could let us know in your posts which of your opinions are based on recent, first hand opinion, and which are based on second hand (other forums, someone told me, etc.) or outdated (e.g.: five years old), it would go a long way in preventing misunderstandings.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]After three years of posting and almost 3,000 posts, I've seen and participated in just about any imaginable discussion you can have on this topic. After years of plugging the NRW clubs, I have yet to receive a check from the NRW tourism bureau. [/QUOTE]

Quantity != quality.

Not sure why you feel the need to "plug" clubs. It distorts the value of any information if you have an interest in promotion. I prefer poster that just report their perceptions. You may disagree, but at least there motives are honest (sharing information).

[QUOTE=Jackyo]What have we not discussed yet? Sex with midgets? Wrestling with a chick and having sex with her?[/QUOTE]

Why?

If you stick to what you know, rather than trying to insert yourself into every conversation, your contributions to the board would be more valuable.