Jakarta

Hi, some years ago I went to Jakarta (Indonesia) and I remember I got wonderful blowjobs. In Jakarta every girl has devotion to blowjob. If you know as Jakarta as Pattaya could you tell me if in Pattaya the girls have the same devotion?
Thanks

[QUOTE=Rival]Residents who work for local businesses with low salaries are the least desirable, as the girls know they aren't flush with cash. Some girls will settle for 200 ST, or anyone who pushes a hard bargain (eg. long time regulars). Once you have their number, its possible to get some of them to drop by during the day, or before they hit Blok M, for 100.[/QUOTE]

Well, down on the railway tracks, some of the old women will settle for 10.

I had one come back from Top Gun the other night, and I only had 200K in my wallet. When she wanted to leave for pre-fast meal at 4:30, I said she could either take that or wait until 8, when I was going to wake up properly (AND with the benefit of a cup of coffee!) and go to an ATM. She took the money and left, and was quite happy to see me again some other time, when I gave her more.

Still, I don't know that it's a competition to pay as little as possible. For the budget tourists in Jaksa and the low-end English teachers, maybe it's an issue ... but I prefer to pay the top end of what's considered reasonable so that the girl is happy to see me again. 400K - 500K for all night from the Blok M bars doesn't seem too high a price to pay, surely. There's a difference between being an idiot and paying fair prices.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, some years ago I went to Jakarta (Indonesia) and I remember I got wonderful blowjobs. In Jakarta every girl has devotion to blowjob. If you know as Jakarta as Pattaya could you tell me if in Pattaya the girls have the same devotion?
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I think your BJ skill level really depends on what type of girl you like. I got a grade A one from an out of work (because of Ramadan) Berlian chica the other day that was the best I've had in months. I also had totally crappy ones from a 19 year old too. I find the mid 20's ladies usually have the skill mastered.

I've gotten some decent ones in Pattaya, but again, usually by the mid 20's or older ladies.

Didn't Eden Club open a branch in Pattaya? If so, go there. You can't beat those blow jobs anywhere in the world. They train them well.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]You must be shacking up with some real dogs if they'll go for that little. Depending on where you live, that hardly pays their taxi fare home.[/QUOTE]They dont use taxis for transport and these are the girls who are close enough for it to be convenient for them. Don't forget that some girls will do it for free if they like you (apart from snacking from the fridge, watching tv and having a bath). So 100K is a bonus to them.

In the Philippines I used to give girls P300-500 (Rp. 60-100k) for a ST if they dropped by on their way to work and they were cuter than most of the Blok M girls. Im not cheap, but I have never considered paying $60 for a ST anywhere in SE Asia. The most is 500K to a girl from BATS and the equivalent amount to a Soi Cowboy dancer. Even though they were lookers, in hindsight, neither were worth it because its just sex then they leave. If I had met the same girls elsewhere it would have been $20 cheaper for the same service.

From Blok M, 300K is the most I would give to any girl for a ST regardless of how hot they are. If they want more money then she needs to stay longer and provide a hell of a lot more than one round.

On Blok M 500 is considered fair for a true all nighter. Even the experienced and busy girls will consider that a satisfactory result even if they do not show it and pout and frown...
Girls pushing for more especially at 2 am you can consider optimists but often someone will pay more. As it has been pointed out the Blok is full of sex tourists these days. Many girls will do less but in reality if you do not want to have a reputation for being "pelit" (stingy) then 400 is really the minimum. But hey each to their own ..
Taxi money is optional depending where your hotel is. Most Blok M girls live within a 10,000 rupiah bajay ride from the Blok. Take one to a north or central Jakarta hotel then it is going to cost them more but rest assured most do not go straight into a taxi, they will find an ojek and go the cheaper ride home.

As Cooze Hound says, many girls do not take a "real" taxi: even if they get in one at your hotel they often get staight out again when he's on the road, give him 10k and get straight on a motor bike. Often a girl who lives a long way away (or says she does) uses the fact that you know it might cost say 100k in taxi to elicit more cash from her unwitting partner. These girls are street-wise. Having said that, I don't believe in being "pelit" if I've had good service.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]As Cooze Hound says, many girls do not take a "real" taxi: even if they get in one at your hotel they often get staight out again when he's on the road, give him 10k and get straight on a motor bike. Often a girl who lives a long way away (or says she does) uses the fact that you know it might cost say 100k in taxi to elicit more cash from her unwitting partner. These girls are street-wise. Having said that, I don't believe in being "pelit" if I've had good service.[/QUOTE]

A taxi from my place to blok M is about 30k. A motor bike from my place to Blok M is about the same. Those motor bikes are not much cheaper than taxis, just faster. So round trip, they are spending 60k in transportation if they come from that area. I guarantee that if I made a habit of giving girls 100k, they would not be coming to my place, even if they "like" me. Blok M 300k is the rate for short time. 500k for all night. I'm just keeping it real.

[QUOTE=Liondale]

Took a cute little girl called Ita or something, 600k for short time - too much?
She did not want to give BBBJ or CBJ - so was disappointed, otherwise good though. No pics this time.[/QUOTE]

600K and not\ BBBJ or CBJ? So what was good about it?? Sorru Liondale, but you were ripped off. 600K is way over the market price, even for good service. But without BBBJ, she took you....

[quote=foxeshunter]hi, some years ago i went to jakarta (indonesia) and i remember i got wonderful blowjobs. in jakarta every girl has devotion to blowjob. if you know as jakarta as pattaya could you tell me if in pattaya the girls have the same devotion?
thanks[/quote]

this discussion has been had on this formum before and i'm sure we'll have it again.(big grin) opinions differ, but my experience has definitely been that jakarta bjs are, on average, way better than most you'll get in bangkok.

i find that the bbbj is just an expected part of the menu in jakarta, while it seems to be regarded as a special extra in bkk. sure, i've had some lousy bjs in jakarta, but i've never ever had a girl refuse to do it outright. if she was a freelancer, i'd kick her out. if i was at a fuck shop i'd ask for my money back. in fact a fucklet at a fuckshop was once chatting with me and told me about a girl getting the sack because customers were complaining about her refusal to give head.

and when it comes to "freebies" hooked up through a website or some other connection, wow...! it's incredible how many demure indonesian office girls can suck cock like a professional. and the added bonus is that they are doing it because they want to fuck, not just because of the rupiah.

in my admittedly limited experience of bkk, i've never had a really good blow job and i've had lots of experiences with very reluctant and very poor cock sucking service in thailand.

in fact, last time i went to bkk i took a jakarta fucklet with me to relieve the "tension" created by watching the nude gogo shows and groping the girls in the bar. my jakarta girlie actually sucked my cock in the upstairs part of a soi cowboy bar (i think it was midnite..). then she picked up a girl for me from sukhumvit and we took her back to our hotel. the bkk street girl had ok bbbj skills, but my jakarta girlie had to show her how it was really done. the end result was my tongue deep in the bkk girl's mouth while my jakarta girl took my cock deep in her mouth. heaven!!

of course, none of this applies to star of light or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. especially in sol, the girls are incredible. a bkk blowjob bar is something out of this world..

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi friends, in Jakarta is it easy to fuck the second hole ... or is it very hard?
Thanks for some info![/QUOTE]

My seribu rupiahs worth on Jakarta three-holers... I've found many Jakarta girlies quite open to being fucked up the arse. There are plenty of fucklets who will refuse, but plenty more who have no problems with it. I'm not usually looking to fuck them rearwise, but I've definitely got an arse fetish and love to play around with a nice round arse and always love to slide my fingers up there. Many times girls have interpreted that as me wanting to fuck the second hole, even without me asking. One girlie recently asked "mau masuk mister?" (want to go in, mister?). Another very sweetly positioned herself with her arse in the air and spread her cheeks invitingly. Didn't say a word, but the offer was unmistakeable.

So, how this compares with other cities I really don't know. But I can say that three hole adventures are definitely possible in Jakarta. Although I think it would probably be a service available only from a minority.

[quote=foxeshunter]hi friends, in jakarta is it easy to fuck the second hole ... or is it very hard?[/quote]i'm an anal addict and can verify that jakarta is statistically your best hope of getting rear door action. compared with thailand/cambodia (some hope), philippines (little hope) and china/vietnam (no hope), the girls of indonesia take it in the pooper more than most. that being said, that does not mean that it is "easy"... only 5% or so of the indon girls i have done provided memorable anal service.

what is interesting about indon girls is not the quantity of girls that have provided anal, but rather the quality of the anal sessions i have had. of the most memorable anal fuck sessions i have experienced, indon girls would take at least 6 of the top 10 spots. when they give it up their ass, it's yours. i have posted a few verified ass providers previously...

>> dewi - mentioned that she had a german bf in the taxi on the way back, so i knew her ass had been german pre-engineered.
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>> frida - a newbie, but turned out to be an anal champ. top gun pickup
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there are a couple of others, rika (ex-bar dancer at my bar) and neni (my bar girl) who easily make it into my top 5... i had posted a pic of rika before, but can't find the link. anal freaks, the both of them. sorry, no contacts for any of the above...

word of advice, anal is a lot more fun with silicone-based lube ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=423916&postcount=544[/url]). water-based lube can make a mess out of things and no lube is mighty uncomfortable.

good luck and enjoy jkt, asianrain

I copy and paste based on my bro's PM (to me)...

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"Bro Oyenk,

First, many thanks for your original posts on ISG a couple of years back- I used them to find Hotel Travel, and other good places in Jkt.

Lately, I've been getting emails from a couple of other mongers asking me to "not do as Oyenk did" and raving about how you exposed the Kota scene, and pissed off a bunch of other mongers on some Indo board. I reread some of your old posts, and don't see what you did that was so bad- how would any of us get laid if no one shared info?!

I noticed that you did stop posting much lately though- any suggestions as to local boards that post in English (I can't speak Bahasa) with good info on local options in Jakarta? Any suggestions where I should go when there in mid-Oct?

THanks in advance, and thanks for your other posts."
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to my bro who sent me this PM...I will not open your username...and Thank You very much for sending me PM.

For them who sent to my bros that kind of words...why didn't you show your posts againts me ? why did you hide yourself ? this is An OPEN-MINDED FORUM !

Just show yourself (if you're a man ) and I will put you in my ignore-list, cause you do not like my info so just stay away from me and never see my post as I will not see your posts (if you have valuable posts)...

Thank You and have a nice mongering day in JKT !

Dear Oyenk,

You're a valued poster & if I were you I would just ignore this trouble maker! I think we both know who this person maybe! Just let him be! Wasting your time hunting him down as your reputation as a senior is solid and strong!

KL Guy

[QUOTE=Oyenk]
to my bro who sent me this PM...I will not open your username...and Thank You very much for sending me PM.

For them who sent to my bros that kind of words...why didn't you show your posts againts me ? why did you hide yourself ? this is An OPEN-MINDED FORUM !

Just show yourself (if you're a man ) and I will put you in my ignore-list, cause you do not like my info so just stay away from me and never see my post as I will not see your posts (if you have valuable posts)...

Thank You and have a nice mongering day in JKT ![/QUOTE]

I remember meeting a Top Gun girl a while back, she took me back to her flat in the Rumah Susun in Petamburan. Little bit spooky, if you aren't used to Jakarta's underside.

Anyway, over Lebaran, she was sending non-stop sms, saying she wanted to meet me for "curhat". In my experience, this is almost always a code for "I need money". Still, I didn't have anything on, so I visited her again in her flat.

All a bit awkward, with a child squawking on the floor next door, but we worked something out, and I slipped Rp300,000 into her back jeans pocket after she'd put them back on.

And then she mentioned the names of at least 5 other girls that I've chatted with or been with from Top Gun who lived in the same flats. She said if I was in the mood for seconds, she'd call one of them up right then and there, I could use her bedroom for an extra Rp 50k. I laughed and gallantly said she'd manage to drain me completely, so no need to call in a friend. Still, I said, I'd keep it in mind for the proverbial rainy day in the future.

When I say 'rumah susun', I mean the high-rise flats for middle-low income earners around Jakarta. They make Taman Rasuna look like a luxury Manhattan penthouse, but they're okay, just a bit like an Indonesian village on stilts. Wouldn't wanna live there meself, but okay to visit. Some of them are well decorated, and the girl in question had AC in her bedroom at least.

Most of the stories we hear on ISG are about taking girls back to the hotel room, and that makes sense. Still, I'd be interested to know about other people who've gone back to the places where the girls live. Kinda interesting, in a weird sorta way ...