Bangkok Reports

I'm excited to explore both areas for freelancers, especially since there aren't many reports on either area.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028256]I was intending to go to Emannuelle but the girl was away today.

Ended up going to Angel Witch to see a girl that looked a bit sexy previously. #33 May. Cute mouth. Short. Childish voice. Very shy at first. Supposedly 26 years old. She seemed slightly in a hurry to get barfined. Perhaps first bad sign. She was all natural and no baby. Tick for that. She was willing to kiss in the bar a bit. A good sign. However wasn't exactly what you expect from a tongue kiss. 2nd bad sign. She asked did I want ST or LT? I explained I take normally ST first up and only LT with great girls. She said she would have liked LT. Again a bit strange. There was no agreed price. I thought this was supposed to be an indicator that the girl was confident she would please. Ha Ha.

Exiting Angel Witch she said hungry, so bought some BBQed prawns. Then wanted to stop and drink a beer. In fact she wanted to go in Bangkok Bunnies. What for, I don't know. Now I guess delaying tactics till she could get a bit tipsy.

Anyway once got her clothes off her body was fine, however now seemed a lot less interested to kiss. Tended to turn the head to one side. Did not want me kissing her nipples too long. She suggested to give me a BJ. I said not so fast. I was intending to enjoy her body a bit. Unfortunately the legs were stretched straight, tensed, and inter-locked at the ankles. Was hard to get her to relax the legs. I tried to do DATY. She was not keen. I told her to get dressed. I had had enough..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got a girl that may be either working against her will or circumstances are truly forcing her to be in this line of work. My guess is she hasn't accepted the fact that having sex is part of her job and probably wanted to stay LT with you just so she didn't have to go back to the bar and do the process all over again. The majority of people aren't really cut out for this line of work, I think you got one of them.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028256]I was intending to go to Emannuelle but the girl was away today.

Ended up going to Angel Witch to see a girl that looked a bit sexy previously. #33 May. Cute mouth. Short. Childish voice. Very shy at first. Supposedly 26 years old. She seemed slightly in a hurry to get barfined. Perhaps first bad sign. She was all natural and no baby. Tick for that. She was willing to kiss in the bar a bit. A good sign. However wasn't exactly what you expect from a tongue kiss. 2nd bad sign. She asked did I want ST or LT? I explained I take normally ST first up and only LT with great girls. She said she would have liked LT. Again a bit strange. There was no agreed price. I thought this was supposed to be an indicator that the girl was confident she would please. Ha Ha.

Exiting Angel Witch she said hungry, so bought some BBQed prawns. Then wanted to stop and drink a beer. In fact she wanted to go in Bangkok Bunnies. What for, I don't know. Now I guess delaying tactics till she could get a bit tipsy.

Anyway once got her clothes off her body was fine, however now seemed a lot less interested to kiss. Tended to turn the head to one side. Did not want me kissing her nipples too long. She suggested to give me a BJ. I said not so fast. I was intending to enjoy her body a bit. Unfortunately the legs were stretched straight, tensed, and inter-locked at the ankles. Was hard to get her to relax the legs. I tried to do DATY. She was not keen. I told her to get dressed. I had had enough.

She eventually started a BJ, but it was absolutely pathetic. My dick was not stirring.

It was clear that I was not going to fuck her. She just wasn't into it at all. Perhaps starfish would be being kind to her. Dick scared would be an over simplification. I asked if she likes guys at all and ever had a horny mood where she wanted to fuck one. Not clear what the answer was. I asked how many Farang guys had she been with before. Only 3 was the answer despite working Angel Witch several months I think and Hillary before that. Does this mean that almost no one wants to take her, or has she in fact been there only a very short time.

She asked for 2500. Makes laugh. Fortunately there was no agreed price. I had even told her to get dressed before she attempted a crap BJ. I was in a position to pay her what I felt like, and obviously she had delivered nothing, so gave her a very token amount for her time. Of course had wasted further money on her BF, drinks, food, ST room etc.

She actually wanted to go home with me and stay the night. LOL What the fuck for?

I am sure Angel Witch has some good girls. How I managed to get one so hopeless is beyond me. This is the first bad bar girl I had for the year. Every other was either great or at least very fuckable. She used to work in a Toshiba Fridge, Washing Machine, and Aircon factory for 300 Baht per day. Not enough to live on, so that is why she has ended up a bar girl now. She wants to meet some nice Farang guy to look after her LOL. Yet she shows no desire for sex.

Her excuse she is not used to it, because has been away up country a few days or weeks. Ha ha. Never heard anything so silly. I am a bit more used to girls that love fucking. Not a 26 YO that acts more like a 15 YO virgin.

Not just dick scared but seems to be completely scared of everything, being kissed, being touched, the works. I can return to my experienced regular girls aged 30 to 40 that are into sex.

Could she be a lesbian, I wonder. Most bar girls have been fucking lots of guys since a young age. How come not this one? The thing to do is to analyse every little thing that happened that was at all strange, and learn from it. There were certainly some strange signs, that could be ignored in an optimistic mood.

I have had some non repeat girls this year, but can't now recall anything this bad. However I guess a girl like this could not work in an MP. She would get fired pretty quick one imagines. However bad memory. Just the other day had a pathetic girl at Merci Soapy, that I also did not fuck for similar reasons. It just shows that these experiences can be forgotten so quickly. Can't even remember what she looked like. At Merci paid upfront, so money is just lost. However in the end, almost as much money and certainly a lot more time wasted on the bargirl. When try a new girl, there is always some risk. This is why a favour regular enthusiastic girls that want to get their pops too. Should aim to cut new girl tries right back. I normally don't pull the trigger on first meeting a bargirl. Little brain in the dick must have been doing the thinking today. Always a luck element attached to it.

In the old days (25 years ago) took bar girls for LT on first meeting. Don't recall getting such bad ones that needed to be kicked out. I suppose it must have happened and erased from memory. I tend to remember the good girl more.[/QUOTE]You certainly stiffed her.

The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2028429]You certainly stiffed her.

The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.[/QUOTE]Gasp!

You criticized Syzygies on the open board! OMG.

I am fearful of the retribution due to you.

Don't you realize that at 10,000 plus posts he is on track to win the Guinness World Record for number of blog posts in any category?

Shame on you Smoothy.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2028429]You certainly stiffed her.

The girl did not cheat you. You should not cheat her. You may not be able to use that bar again due to the bad gossip you are due.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear. The session lasted 10 minutes max. There was no fucking. No hard on was achieved by a very short attempted BJ after I had already announced the session was finished. It wasn't a BJ by any normal definition. No mouth movement or sucking. There was no agreed price, and you don't know what I paid her other than was less than 2500. I probably overpaid. She got more than she deserved. I did not receive a "fuck you" or anything approaching that. In fact she said she wanted to do better for me tomorrow. Yeh right! That won't be happening.

So your post is merely a tit for tat replay, with no basis.

Obviously if I got a full 2 hour session, I would have paid her better, again what she deserved. I always pay more than fairly for the time and effort the girl put in, unlike plenty of others.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028256]I was intending to go to Emannuelle but the girl was away today.

Ended up going to Angel Witch to see a girl that looked a bit sexy previously. #33 May. Cute mouth. Short. Childish voice. Very shy at first. Supposedly 26 years old. She seemed slightly in a hurry to get barfined. Perhaps first bad sign. She was all natural and no baby. Tick for that. She was willing to kiss in the bar a bit. A good sign. However wasn't exactly what you expect from a tongue kiss. 2nd bad sign. She asked did I want ST or LT? I explained I take normally ST first up and only LT with great girls. She said she would have liked LT. Again a bit strange. There was no agreed price. I thought this was supposed to be an indicator that the girl was confident she would please. Ha Ha.

Exiting Angel Witch she said hungry, so bought some BBQed prawns. Then wanted to stop and drink a beer. In fact she wanted to go in Bangkok Bunnies. What for, I don't know. Now I guess delaying tactics till she could get a bit tipsy.

Anyway once got her clothes off her body was fine, however now seemed a lot less interested to kiss. Tended to turn the head to one side. Did not want me kissing her nipples too long. She suggested to give me a BJ. I said not so fast. I was intending to enjoy her body a bit. Unfortunately the legs were stretched straight, tensed, and inter-locked at the ankles. Was hard to get her to relax the legs. I tried to do DATY. She was not keen. I told her to get dressed. I had had enough.

She eventually started a BJ, but it was absolutely pathetic. My dick was not stirring.

It was clear that I was not going to fuck her. She just wasn't into it at all. Perhaps starfish would be being kind to her. Dick scared would be an over simplification. I asked if she likes guys at all and ever had a horny mood where she wanted to fuck one. Not clear what the answer was. I asked how many Farang guys had she been with before. Only 3 was the answer despite working Angel Witch several months I think and Hillary before that. Does this mean that almost no one wants to take her, or has she in fact been there only a very short time.

She asked for 2500. Makes laugh. Fortunately there was no agreed price. I had even told her to get dressed before she attempted a crap BJ. I was in a position to pay her what I felt like, and obviously she had delivered nothing, so gave her a very token amount for her time. Of course had wasted further money on her BF, drinks, food, ST room etc.

She actually wanted to go home with me and stay the night. LOL What the fuck for?

I am sure Angel Witch has some good girls. How I managed to get one so hopeless is beyond me. This is the first bad bar girl I had for the year. Every other was either great or at least very fuckable. She used to work in a Toshiba Fridge, Washing Machine, and Aircon factory for 300 Baht per day. Not enough to live on, so that is why she has ended up a bar girl now. She wants to meet some nice Farang guy to look after her LOL. Yet she shows no desire for sex.

Her excuse she is not used to it, because has been away up country a few days or weeks. Ha ha. Never heard anything so silly. I am a bit more used to girls that love fucking. Not a 26 YO that acts more like a 15 YO virgin.

Not just dick scared but seems to be completely scared of everything, being kissed, being touched, the works. I can return to my experienced regular girls aged 30 to 40 that are into sex.

Could she be a lesbian, I wonder. Most bar girls have been fucking lots of guys since a young age. How come not this one? The thing to do is to analyse every little thing that happened that was at all strange, and learn from it. There were certainly some strange signs, that could be ignored in an optimistic mood.

I have had some non repeat girls this year, but can't now recall anything this bad. However I guess a girl like this could not work in an MP. She would get fired pretty quick one imagines. However bad memory. Just the other day had a pathetic girl at Merci Soapy, that I also did not fuck for similar reasons. It just shows that these experiences can be forgotten so quickly. Can't even remember what she looked like. At Merci paid upfront, so money is just lost. However in the end, almost as much money and certainly a lot more time wasted on the bargirl. When try a new girl, there is always some risk. This is why a favour regular enthusiastic girls that want to get their pops too. Should aim to cut new girl tries right back. I normally don't pull the trigger on first meeting a bargirl. Little brain in the dick must have been doing the thinking today. Always a luck element attached to it.

In the old days (25 years ago) took bar girls for LT on first meeting. Don't recall getting such bad ones that needed to be kicked out. I suppose it must have happened and erased from memory. I tend to remember the good girl more.[/QUOTE]Living here in ground zero of Bangkok's red light district and being out on the hunt fairly often, I have had several weirdo Jekyll & Hyde transformation bargirls like that over the past few years. I still sense a tendency for you to "share the blame", as in for not recognizing certain signs or that you hadn't learned enough in all the years of mongering to avoid this particular scammer ("The thing to do is to analyse every little thing that happened that was at all strange, and learn from it. There were certainly some strange signs, that could be ignored in an optimistic mood", etc.) To that I say hogwash. There is no amount of street smarts, experience, facility with the language or the culture that can prevent determined little scammers from scamming you (us). Some of them are just too good at it! LOL. The experienced punter will simply embrace that reality and not in any way, shape or form excuse it or assume any personal responsibility for allowing it to happen.

Personally, even if I HAD negotiated a firm 2,500 baht in the bar for her services back in my room, I still would have felt 100% justified in handing her a pittance, I. E. 100 baht if stuck in a nearby ST room with her or for taxi fare if she was in my apartment, if that, explained as best I could with a hearty laugh about why I was giving her almost nothing and shown her the door. That little tartlet knew exactly what she was doing, no doubt has gotten away with it dozens of times with previous customers and was very much due for a big wake up call about it.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028466]Just to be clear. The session lasted 10 minutes max. There was no fucking. No hard on was achieved by a very short attempted BJ after I had already announced the session was finished. It wasn't a BJ by any normal definition. No mouth movement or sucking. There was no agreed price, and you don't know what I paid her other than was less than 2500. I probably overpaid. She got more than she deserved. I did not receive a "fuck you" or anything approaching that. In fact she said she wanted to do better for me tomorrow. Yeh right! That won't be happening.

So your post is merely a tit for tat replay, with no basis.

Obviously if I got a full 2 hour session, I would have paid her better, again what she deserved. I always pay more than fairly for the time and effort the girl put in, unlike plenty of others.[/QUOTE]I probably have 5-6 Line numbers for girls who pulled that shit and still wanted to play the "innocent" all the way to the end by insisting we exchange the information so she could "do better for me tomorrow. " None of them have ever contacted me later about it and I have not contacted any of them. There might not be a bigger tell for their full self-awareness that they are scammers and in the business to do nothing other than scam customers than when they pretend to be utterly oblivious of what just transpired and hope you will go away quietly if they can make you think this was just the shy, innocently faltering beginning of wonderful things to cum next time. LOL.

You are on the wrong channel! This goes to what they call "Travel annoucement" group!. Also, do yourself and ISG a favor by paying up the yearly subscription. So folks can PM you.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;2028246]Hi guys,

I'll be hitting Bangkok on the 8th of May for 5 nights (I will be in Pattaya from the 6th to the 8th) who would be available to meet around those dates for a drink?

A bit more about myself: I'm a 28 years old French guy living in Paris, I've been a few times in Bangkok and I had fun mongering there but mostly massages places and outcall (mango, tulip and so forth) but, although it may sound curious, I haven't actually tried a gogo bar, picked up a freelance or barfined a girl. The reason is that I don't see myself drinking a beer all by myself in a gogo bar actually. So would anyone be up for a one (or a few) nights there?

P.S: don't take it personally but I would like meeting someone (around) my age (25 - 40) as I wouldn't want to be in a "dad & son are hitting on girls" situation.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2028256]I have had some non repeat girls this year, but can't now recall anything this bad. However I guess a girl like this could not work in an MP. She would get fired pretty quick one imagines. However bad memory. Just the other day had a pathetic girl at Merci Soapy, that I also did not fuck for similar reasons. It just shows that these experiences can be forgotten so quickly. Can't even remember what she looked like. At Merci paid upfront, so money is just lost. However in the end, almost as much money and certainly a lot more time wasted on the bargirl. When try a new girl, there is always some risk. This is why a favour regular enthusiastic girls that want to get their pops too. Should aim to cut new girl tries right back. I normally don't pull the trigger on first meeting a bargirl. Little brain in the dick must have been doing the thinking today. Always a luck element attached to it.[/QUOTE]With trying dozens of NEP area street girls one occasionally encounters one like this.

Over 80% of the time I stick with keepers who are consistently great rather than try an unknown.

Unknown girls, those I've never bedded before, are seldom up to the standard of becoming a keeper. That is, a member of my harem!

New girls are seldom worth a repeat since they are not up to the standard of those in the harem. They are taken when others are unavailable.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2028474]I probably have 5-6 Line numbers for girls who pulled that shit and still wanted to play the "innocent" all the way to the end by insisting we exchange the information so she could "do better for me tomorrow. " None of them have ever contacted me later about it and I have not contacted any of them. There might not be a bigger tell for their full self-awareness that they are scammers and in the business to do nothing other than scam customers than when they pretend to be utterly oblivious of what just transpired and hope you will go away quietly if they can make you think this was just the shy, innocently faltering beginning of wonderful things to cum next time. LOL.[/QUOTE]Very puzzling girl. She seemed to be shit scared of Farangs sexually on the bed, but said to taxi driver how much she would like to find a Farang boyfriend. Why wouldn't the girl just be a star fish and try to put up with the experience, and maybe learn something from it, rather than resist?

Yes scamming is one possible conclusion, which did not really occur to me. I guess its a case of wants the money, but does not want to provide anything for that, but was also clueless. She knew that BJ "smoking" existed, and wanted to move to that in a hurry, but had no clue how it is done. Her BJ scores a zero out of 10. Maybe I should score her 1 since it was not really painful, it was just a nothing. More bad hand action than anything else.

The bad sign is that the girl was in a hurry to get BFed. I believe experience shows that the more a girl tries to rush you, the more you should not take her. She was too shy to be pushy though. If pushy, I would have rejected her fairly quickly. Then requesting LT instead of ST on first meeting should also be a warning sign, something is not right. Finally her in the bar kiss was a bit strange. Not sexy enough in hindsight. The signs were very little, indeed yes. She seemed keen at first. However it was clearly just keen to get money, and not keen to have a good time.

The biggest thing I learned already, is if at all possible, don't pull the trigger on bargirls the first time you meet them, have extreme patience. All of my regular current girls at Crazy House were not barfined, till quite some time after I first met them. I took a lot of time to get around to it. With two of them I had slights doubts at first till I got to know them. The other, Jane, had no doubts about, just she was too popular and heavily booked. When a girl has plenty of repeat customers, you don't feel concerned that she is going to be a scammer naturally. Obviously a girl with no repeat customers, is a risk.

CH would be the only bar where I have got to observe girls' histories over a significant period and have clues about their character. This was not the case in the early times there, so made a few mistakes with dick scared girls or star fish. Dick scared girls are hard to predict because they are good for one customer and bad for the next.

[QUOTE=Valoulou;2028246]Hi guys,

I'll be hitting Bangkok on the 8th of May for 5 nights (I will be in Pattaya from the 6th to the 8th) who would be available to meet around those dates for a drink?

A bit more about myself: I'm a 28 years old French guy living in Paris, I've been a few times in Bangkok and I had fun mongering there but mostly massages places and outcall (mango, tulip and so forth) but, although it may sound curious, I haven't actually tried a gogo bar, picked up a freelance or barfined a girl. The reason is that I don't see myself drinking a beer all by myself in a gogo bar actually. So would anyone be up for a one (or a few) nights there?

P.S: don't take it personally but I would like meeting someone (around) my age (25 - 40) as I wouldn't want to be in a "dad & son are hitting on girls" situation.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Your post made me really wonder. Why are you reluctant to drink alone in a go-go bar? And why do you plan trips to Bangkok and Pattaya if this is a problem? By all means. If you can find a wingman it can be a good experience so good luck. Personally I always go alone. To bring a friend limits your choices, after all your friend possibly want to go to other venues than you etc. On your own you are flexible and can go wherever you like. I would say probably 70% of visitors to go-go bars come alone. It is normal and you will enjoy it, don't worry. I would love to share a beer with you and maybe give some more advice but I am not in Bangkok in May. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Valoulou;2028246] The reason is that I don't see myself drinking a beer all by myself in a gogo bar actually. [/QUOTE]In most gogo bars you will be alone for a very short period, sometimes seconds. No wingman needed. Any eye contact with a girl you find attractive and she's beside you. Buy her a lady drink and enjoy.

Hi,

Finally got my couple of days free in BKK after the office work.

As per the earlier suggestions, decided to start the day at Annies. Walked up there and not many numbers for selection. Selected Say # 20. It was first time in a soapy and hence it was a interesting experience. Only negative was the she has boobies were very small. Being a boob lover it was a bit of disappointment for me. Still she did a good job and had a good BJ, massage and play in multiple positions before I cum in cowgirl. Second round was longer in all positions and finally cum in miss. Showered and left the place. Returned to hotel and took rest before venturing again. Walked around Sois and checked the bars. Finally came into NEP and went to Rainbow. I was not very sure of quality here so don't know the lineup was good or bad. Picked up Nay for a ST and it was average experience since she was more into getting me cum and closing the act.

Went out for some food and drinks and came back to NEP. After touring some more bars, picked up a girl from Spankys. It turned out to be a better one. Session was extensive and took time. She was very cooperative and not very pushy on time. Did all the positions and still had to cum by HJ. By the end it was midnight and decided call it day as was very tired from walking all around and heat.

Will try Billboard tomorrow as it seems to be bigger. Funny part was getting into LB bar by mistake and running out of it.

[QUOTE=Aviator12;2028575]Your post made me really wonder. Why are you reluctant to drink alone in a go-go bar? And why do you plan trips to Bangkok and Pattaya if this is a problem? By all means. If you can find a wingman it can be a good experience so good luck. Personally I always go alone. To bring a friend limits your choices, after all your friend possibly want to go to other venues than you etc. On your own you are flexible and can go wherever you like. I would say probably 70% of visitors to go-go bars come alone. It is normal and you will enjoy it, don't worry. I would love to share a beer with you and maybe give some more advice but I am not in Bangkok in May. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Thanks for your response.

I'm not very comfortable with having to deal with 1, 2 or 3 girls coming and rushing you for drinks or being scammed if I look too "newbie".

I'd figure that drinking a beer alone wouldn't be particularly fun even though Banana Boi said I wouldn't be alone for very long. Which is definitely right. I just thought that drinking a beer with another punter playing pool and so forth would be more appreciable and would also be better to check out girls.

It's like going to disco alone, it wouldn't be that much fun but in a sense, you're right, I will be flexible and will likely enjoy it! Also if the girls I meet speaks well enough english to discuss, it could become fun!

Always wanted to try a gogo place so I'll try some in Pattaya and some in Bangkok, I just don't want one where girls are pushy! Which of your favorite would you recommend?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2027858]I did have just one or two girls walk that Soi at night with me. Very few indeed. There tend to be suspicious types hanging around at times.

Sois in that area beyond the Hotels mentioned were even reported as dangerous at night, however I have walked to 7 Eleven without any problems. You just watch what other people sighted are doing somewhat.

Dark back alleys with few people are never the best idea in Bangkok. It's not a totally safe place.[/QUOTE]I have walked up and down from Soi Cowboy to Citadines and vice versa late at night maybe 100 times.

It's not dangerous at all. That's only my opinion. I'm not easily intimidated maybe.

I've only had one girl insist on taking a cab from Soi Cowboy to Citadines. I haven't stayed there for the last few years, so maybe attitudes to walking have changed.