Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2984486]

What I do understand is money, corruption and power that occupies a vacuum. Ukraine, much of Africa, Burma, Venezuela are the same basic story, the real players changing their stripes and alliances as expedient and conning the population.[/QUOTE]Can you be even more mysterious? Who are those real players changing their stripes? Names please?

What exactly is it you're saying? That Ukraine doesn't deserve to be independent and free. Is that it? Is Ukraine the only country in the world with a serious corruption problem?

Interestingly, all of you seem to be fine with Russia and everything it does. At least, I haven't heard a single squeak from you, Elvis and Tiny (with propacondoms who gives a shit). Why?

Why is it that all of you refuse to see corruption in Russia, which is several orders above Ukraine? Russia is not just corrupt, it's corruption is systemic, brazen and simply-speaking insane. Yet, in your learned minds, Russia somehow remains a legitimate and even venerable power while Ukraine doesn't have the right to exist.

Ukraine is doing something about its corruption.

Russia is doing nothing at all.

If Ukraine doesn't deserve its freedom and independence due to corruption, then Russia is hopelessly fucked.

Corruption Perceptions Index:

Ukraine: 105 out of 180.

Russia: 154 out of 180.

[URL]https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024[/URL]

P.S. BTW, Russia IS fucked. Even The Orange with his merry band of traitors and criminals won't be able to help them, and oh boy ain't they trying!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2984969]...a single squeak from you, Elvis and Tiny (with propacondoms who gives a shit). Why?...[/QUOTE]They are paid propagandists. It is very difficult for truth and reason to counter the flood of paid lies and disinformation.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2985071]They are paid propagandists. It is very difficult for truth and reason to counter the flood of paid lies and disinformation.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! So then you'd be Joseph McCarthy reincarnated?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2984969]Can you be even more mysterious? Who are those real players changing their stripes? Names please?

What exactly is it you're saying? That Ukraine doesn't deserve to be independent and free. Is that it? Is Ukraine the only country in the world with a serious corruption problem?

Interestingly, all of you seem to be fine with Russia and everything it does. At least, I haven't heard a single squeak from you, Elvis and Tiny (with propacondoms who gives a shit). Why?

Why is it that all of you refuse to see corruption in Russia, which is several orders above Ukraine? Russia is not just corrupt, it's corruption is systemic, brazen and simply-speaking insane. Yet, in your learned minds, Russia somehow remains a legitimate and even venerable power while Ukraine doesn't have the right to exist.

Ukraine is doing something about its corruption.

Russia is doing nothing at all.

If Ukraine doesn't deserve its freedom and independence due to corruption, then Russia is hopelessly fucked.

Corruption Perceptions Index:

Ukraine: 105 out of 180.

Russia: 154 out of 180.

[URL]https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2024[/URL]

P.S. BTW, Russia IS fucked. Even The Orange with his merry band of traitors and criminals won't be able to help them, and oh boy ain't they trying![/QUOTE]At the risk of violating another of Paulie's Rules of Logic, you don't think politicians in the USA are corrupt? Corruption isn't the issue. The issue is a senseless war that's killing and maiming people and depriving them of a decent living. The issue is should this war go on forever. Or as Blood Red says, to the last Ukrainian.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2985127]Hahaha! So then you'd be Joseph McCarthy reincarnated?[/QUOTE]Nah, it is worse than that. Democratic douches always accuse you of the thing they are doing. They toss money at their pet clauses: Covid, climate change, and Ukraine and then accuse you of sucking Putin's dick, wanting the earth to end, or people dying of Covid if you oppose them.

The reason I bring that up is some dick in the Biden administration was just caught throwing $20 billion of "climate change" money into a bank account out of Trump's control. One of Biden's hacks at the EPA called it "throwing gold bars off the Titanic. " he got fooled by Project Veritas into talking about this while getting drunk. This is from Matt Taibbi and Walter Kirn talking during their America This Week podcast, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZAvz5G82l0[/URL].

Matt Taibbi: And talking about throwing gold bars off the Titanic. Now-.

Walter Kirn: There is nothing in that presentation that causes me to think that the climate issue is oppressing mortal concern for humanity or that guy. He discusses it entirely in terms of money flows and gold bars and political maneuvering and the power of the purse. But I know it's not surprising that a bureaucrat should take lightly what is supposedly the end of mankind.

So it is a Biden political hack saying basically climate change is BS and it is entirely to give Democrats money. But it gets worse.

Matt Taibbi: So, it gets complicated from there. But then the next step in all this is, well, what's the money for exactly? And if you dig into that, that's when it gets weird. And that's when we get to this week's story, what I was looking at, there were eight grantees for 20 billion, which is kind of a small number small already. I looked in particular at a site called Climate United Fund, which was kind of hastily thrown together last September, and it has just a bunch of clip art on it. But there is another one that is the new focus of stuff, and it's called Power Forward Communities. Oh, this is the 990, the tax form for Power Forward Communities for 2023. Now, if you scroll down to item 23 in the nine nine form, and this is-.

Walter Kirn: So, their contributions are $100.

Matt Taibbi: That's their assets. However, Stacey Abrams did tweet that she was part of this thing called Rewiring America, which is sort of in the background of Power Forward Communities. It's a related entity, let's put it that way. This group, rewind America or Rewiring America, they still have as the pinned tweet on their Twitter page, like a, "Woohoo, we got $2 billion," thing, right? "It's official Power Forward Communities has received a $2 billion award from the EPA to help affordably decarbonize homes and apartments throughout the country. ".

Walter Kirn: What the hell does that mean? Affordably decarbonize? I haven't seen much of that going on. How come when I drive down the street in my little town, I don't see the decarbonization trucks pulled up in front of the buildings.

So if the Democratic douches got $20 billion thrown their way for "climate change", I cannot imagine how many gold bars were thrown off the Titanic for Ukraine.

Thing is if you are in the Power Forward community, you are going to be provaxx and wearing your blue and yellow ribbons to "work" proudly. In fact, putting the blue and yellow ribbon on may be the only form of work that is actually being done. I am sure the "work" can be done remotely.

So with guys like JC, who you know is provaxx and a climate change weirdo, he is getting huge $ and there is way more money in sucking Zelensky's dick than for anyone to go down on Putin.

In fact, for all the talk of Russia in 2016 influencing the election, there was very little mention of money involved. The only figure I heard with regards was Russia spending $100,000 in Facebook Ads. That is pretty paltry compared to $20 billion.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2984969]
Interestingly, all of you seem to be fine with Russia and everything it does. At least, I haven't heard a single squeak from you, Elvis and Tiny (with propacondoms who gives a shit). Why?[/QUOTE]If a woman provokes a man to hit her, and the man does it, that does not mean the man is a good guy. In the above scenario, the woman is Ukraine and the man is Russia, and they are both guilty.

The issue I have is that not only am I being told the woman is innocent, I am told that I have to give money to fund the woman's fight with the man and be 100% supportive of the woman. I am sick and tired of hearing about how great the woman is and and how bad the man is wrong when they were both behaving badly.

It is obvious that a man who invades a foreign country or smacks a woman is not good. Thing is when the USA tries to kill the "bad man" as in Libya, Iraq, and Syria, the end result has been chaos.

Then when you find out the woman and her friends are literally sending around memos discussing what it would take for the guy to hit you, you have convinced me the bad guy is less of a threat to me and the world than ever.

In fact, if you are getting together with your friends and trying to figure out what it takes to trigger someone to commit violence, you are a way bigger threat to society than the people committing violence. And you sure as hell are not an innocent.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2985129]At the risk of violating another of Paulie's Rules of Logic, you don't think politicians in the USA are corrupt? Corruption isn't the issue. The issue is a senseless war that's killing and maiming people and depriving them of a decent living. The issue is should this war go on forever. Or as Blood Red says, to the last Ukrainian.[/QUOTE]1. Your despicable ilk always cite Ukrainian corruption as a reason to stop the US military aid. Talk to them.

2. If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Talk to Putin.

3. You're a Russophile who doesn't give 2 shits about Ukrainian lives. Talk to your priest or shrink or whoever you put in charge of your immortal soul.

I don't normally post newspaper articles, but this one totally deserves it.

[B]Im a former U.S. intelligence officer. Trump's Ukraine betrayal will have terrible consequences.[/B]

[QUOTE]The United States is doing it again: walking away from allies. It is almost as if each U.S. presidency needs to practice betrayal as a form of statecraft. The examples of men and women who counted on our support are many. George H.W. Bush with the Kurds. Barack Obama with the Syrians. Donald Trump and Joe Biden with the Afghans. And now, Trump with the Ukrainians. America, the dependable ally, we are not.

Many of us, however, thought Ukraine would really be different. This was a classic story of right versus wrong, of David vs. Goliath, and the U.S. did come to Ukraines aid once Russian forces were on the move. Since then, Ukraine has exacted hundreds of thousands of casualties on the Russian invaders. Behind the scenes, the U.S. has reportedly provided critical military and intelligence assistance without a drop of U.S. blood shed.

Did the U.S. do enough? No. Bidens fear of possible escalation with Russia squandered too many opportunities, to the immense frustration of Ukraine, its soldiers and its supporters. But $60 billion in aid is not small potatoes. The Ukrainians fight valiantly and bravely, proving time and again that they would never be defeated. With the backing of the worlds greatest superpower, anything was possible.

Yet now, the Trump administration appears eager to walk away from Ukraine. Details of exactly how remain murky. The president and those around him are not talking with one voice. Trump says one thing one day, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth another, Vice President JD Vance and special envoy Keith Kellogg something else the next. Yet one thing appears abundantly clear: The U.S. is not an ally of Ukraine any longer. At best, America is now a neutral party, and at worst complicit in its demise.

This clear policy shift is nevertheless subtle enough that many Americans may not understand it. But for Ukrainians, and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in particular, there is no doubt about the United States intentions. At the Munich Security Conference last week, Zelenskyy repeatedly pleaded that Ukraine needs the U.S. to support it against Russia, not to mediate between the two. Not only was Trump unpersuaded, he blamed Ukraine for starting the war an allegation that is of course patently false.

Trust is so hard to gain, and yet so easily lost. And though some of the Trump teams errors such as Hegseths statement that Ukraine would never join NATO were walked back, the damage is already done. Each concession to Russia gives Russian President Vladimir Putin a victory even before negotiations begin. One former U.S. senior intelligence officer told me that Ukraine, even in the best-case scenario, will look now at the U.S. from the vantage of a spouse scorned by infidelity.

I have spoken with numerous retired U.S. national security practitioners who have worked globally countering Russian aggression, including those who spent the last decade in and out of Ukraine, asking them what the recent U.S. policy change personally meant to them. Often there is a long silence. Then a sigh. A former intelligence officer said his thoughts immediately went to the scores of Ukrainians with whom he worked their incredible sense of resolve and will to fight. Some have recently visited Ukraine to make contact with old friends. It was difficult for them to look old Ukrainian partners in the eye as the U.S. shifts from ally to neutral player, or maybe worse.

My former colleagues thoughts shifted to the future as well. [b]Many stated that this betrayal was the big one: epic in its scope, with far-reaching consequences for the next fight, likely with China. The fallout will be even worse than the Afghans left to fend for themselves. It will now be impossible for anyone to trust the U.S. as an ally. Our adversaries even now must be celebrating; there are surely open vodka bottles in the Kremlin.[/b][/QUOTE]He's wrong about vodka, though. Putin elites have developed a liking for old pricey Scotch over the last 30 years. But in this case, they celebrate with the best Champagne money can buy. Trump's gifts that keep giving are totally worth it.

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-m-a-former-u-s-intelligence-officer-trump-s-ukraine-betrayal-will-have-terrible-consequences/ar-AA1zzm9p[/URL]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2984896]Well, among these Putin-inspired idiocies, one is the most egregious. As a Russian national, Igor, you can't NOT know that Zelensky was the top-rated comedian, not only in his native Ukraine, but also in pre-2014 Russia. Come on, admit that one, at least, LOL.[/QUOTE]The comedian is on his way out soon hopefully. The sooner the better for Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2985188]

[URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-m-a-former-u-s-intelligence-officer-trump-s-ukraine-betrayal-will-have-terrible-consequences/ar-AA1zzm9p[/URL][/QUOTE]I like it. Never been a friend of the Americans, after having worked there for about 3 years in summary, blaming them just to be friendly with the mouth.

I feel confirmed now in my opinion by the POTUS himself.

America loosing any trust in Europe.

Actually, for me the "deal" between Trump and Putin looks a bit like the deal, Hitler had with Stalin, regarding Poland.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2985187]1. Your despicable ilk always cite Ukrainian corruption as a reason to stop the US military aid. Talk to them.

2. If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. Talk to Putin.

3. You're a Russophile who doesn't give 2 shits about Ukrainian lives. Talk to your priest or shrink or whoever you put in charge of your immortal soul.[/QUOTE]I think the dumbass meant to say IMMORAL but the only immoral thing is to cheer Ukraine on to fight a war to the last Ukrainian that they will never be able to win. That's the reality.

Dumbass Europeans never learn.

America is not their friend. It is not their benevolent Uncle. It has never pretended to be. It is a smooth talking, Godfather figure, which has kept European feeling secure about themselves simply because it was in it's interest. Dumbass Europeans, especially the British, insist on perpetuating their delusions that they are all bosom buddies.

Even when America has said or done things for decades which are not in its own interest alone, the foolish deranged British and some Europeans have followed them blindly into global conflagarations which were both morally and legally deleterious to them: principally the Iraq war.

And yet, they continue deluding about the "special relationship" even while America treats them like what they are: its bitches and working girls.

Well, Europeans, you had it coming. Your delusions of grandeur and notions that you are have a "special bond" is going to come with a very pricy reality check which you are going to find difficult to cash.

As for the Ukrainians. They're fucked. Life is not fair. They're going to have to come to terms with that fact.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2985188]I don't normally post newspaper articles, but this one totally deserves it.

Im a former U.S. intelligence officer.[/QUOTE]OMG! Are you fucking kidding me?

[URL]https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/02/02/now-we-know-the-shocking-truth-about-the-51-intel-officials-role-in-hunter-bidens-laptop-n4936606[/URL]

Just days before a crucial debate, they enlisted 51 former intelligence officials to sign a letter suggesting the laptop was Russian disinformation giving Biden the perfect excuse to dismiss the story when Trump confronted him. That letter also handed Big Tech the justification to censor the story across social media, making it one of the most brazen examples of election interference in USA History.

On his first day back in office, Trump revoked the security clearances of those 51 officials. Since then, they've spun excuse after excuseincluding the laughable claim that they never actually called the laptop Russian disinformation. But now, a leaked email from John Brennan, one of the key signers, exposes the truth. Not only did these officials back the letter, but they did so with the explicit goal of helping Biden mislead the public. It's a damning revelation that confirms their role in manipulating the election narrative.

On October 19,2020, former CIA Director Mike Morell sent Brennan a copy of the letter, asking if he could add his name to the list, before explicitly stating he was "trying to give the Biden campaign, particularly during the debate on Thursday, a talking point to push back on Trump on this. ".

End of link. And who is this former intelligence official?

Marc Polymeropoulos. Was he one of the 51 liars to sign off on Hunter Biden's laptop calling it Russian disinformation?

[URL]https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Polymeropoulos%20Transcript_Redacted.pdf[/URL]

You should also understand that although this interview is not under oath, we're.

Not swearing you in, that by law of course you're required to answer questions before.

Congress truthfully. And you understand that?

Mr. Polymeropoulos. I do.

You were one of 51 former intelligence officials who signed a public statement.

Regarding Hunter Biden's emails, correct?

A Correct.

Xpartan, thanks for admitting this war was a Democratic douche initiative to cover up the crimes of the Biden family, deify Zelensky, and demonize Putin. You quoted a known fucking liar who rigged an election!

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2985316]Dumbass Europeans never learn.

America is not their friend. It is not their benevolent Uncle. It has never pretended to be. It is a smooth talking, Godfather figure, which has kept European feeling secure about themselves simply because it was in it's interest. Dumbass Europeans, especially the British, insist on perpetuating their delusions that they are all bosom buddies.

Even when America has said or done things for decades which are not in its own interest alone, the foolish deranged British and some Europeans have followed them blindly into global conflagarations which were both morally and legally deleterious to them: principally the Iraq war.

And yet, they continue deluding about the "special relationship" even while America treats them like what they are: its bitches and working girls.

Well, Europeans, you had it coming. Your delusions of grandeur and notions that you are have a "special bond" is going to come with a very pricy reality check which you are going to find difficult to cash.

As for the Ukrainians. They're fucked. Life is not fair. They're going to have to come to terms with that fact.[/QUOTE]I guess some of these clowns didn't get the memo from Henry Kissinger:

Being an enemy of the you. S can be dangerous. But being a friend can be fatal.

Whatever they voted, almost all Ukrainians support Zelensky about war to defend their country, when Ukraine was attacked by Putin. According to Ukrainian constitution lasting since before Zelensky, when Trump doesn t respect USA constitution and Putin is a dictator, no election under war. So, just normal, Zelensky is still president and Ukrainians know not many would have had balls to resist to Putin, when Trump is now sucking Putin, lying on money USA gave to Ukraine, less than what Europe gave, and now trying to rob Ukraine and make business with Putin, when Trump knows he can t compete with Europe and China for economics, for more than his taxes, but he will also be taxed, so he tries now to make business with shameful Putin, robbering poor Ukraine. Shame on USA.