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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2031279]The Lesbian shows happen around midnight and a little after.[/QUOTE]Dropped by last night. Same same. There's nudity as well as these bodypaint shows and the waitress told me there would also be lesbian shows later.
In any case, I didn't hang around for more than one beer. There was zero girls that attracted me in the lineup, they were either too old or too unattractive.
Went to Soi Cowboy last night, and since I had vowed not to go to CH, I firstly headed to Suzie Wong. No a single girl attracted me in there so I only had one beer then left. Next I wanted to go by Shark, but judging from the girls out front, it did not seem to provide any promises of improvement over Suzie Wong, so I skipped Shark and went for Tilac. Sat and had a beer in there while checking the lineup. Only about half of the girls were wearing the signature skirt without panties. The rest had some black hotpants instead. With a very few exceptions, all the girls in skirts were quite too old for my taste. There were a few of the girls in hotpants who looked kind of OK, but nothing that had any interrest to me.
I didn't feel like going to Nana, so basically had to forget my vow and go back to Crazy House. The difference in lineup quality is really remarkable, CH have multiple good looking girls. It was still somewhat early (around 10 pm) so plenty of girls to see and the place wasn't as packed as it gets later on. Many Japanese customers in there yesterday. I rejected quite a few girls but finally offered a drink to no 93 (said her name is Yam or something). Somewhat tall, blonde die, skinny build and from Cambodia, but more white skinned than cambodian usually are (as I remember). Anyhow, pleasant to talk to, OK english and a sense of humor. Nice company, but not really my preferred body type and don't really like braces either, so did not try to close the deal or offer BF. I think she felt that I wasnt going to do that, so after a few dances she didn't come back. I suppose she was able to close a deal somewhere quickly, she is quite hot. I had my eyes on no 11, but not able to get in contact with her. Think I was not the only only one who fancied her.
Generally speaking, I didn't have the same bad vibes as my last visit to CH, on the contrary, I had quite a good evening in there.
In the end, I finally BFed a nice girl whose name and number elude me (quite a few Jacks down at that point) - could have been 83 but not sure. Anyhow brought her back to my hotel for ST (2500 bht). She was nice and not shy, but service was not great. No BJ, didn't like DATY, didn't fancy doggy too much. All in all a very mediocre service.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2031328]Tonight tried to get a motorcycle from Sukhumvit to Ratchada Soi 7. Distance is 4. 3 km. Rider wanted 120 Baht. I offered 80. He was not interested. I took the MRT. Much cheaper.
Called into The Lord. They were pretty busy. 40 girls on show perhaps, maybe a bit less. I am told they have 100 girls each night so others had to be busy. Price categories for Farang are R 4800, O 5300, M 5800, K , L, XL and XX, Did not see any above a K, so they were either upstairs or busy. 90 minutes session. Never found any girl quite as stunning as K35 I spotted first visit a few weeks ago.
After looking quite some time, picked an M level girl, Maybe was M36? Name was Jaeng from Chiang Rai. Very white skin (not the reason), all natural looking (a reason) and cute nose. 25 YO no babies. I believe The Lord does not accept any girls with babies or tram tracks on belly etc. Tats are accepted but my girl had none and no piercings. Face was an 8, not quite stunning, figure a 7 (slightly disappointing when clothes were off), Tits Acup naturals firm. Ass so so.
Supposedly the service was guaranteed to be super here. She was playful in the bath and liked to make naughty jokes. BBBJ in the bath scores a 6.
There was virtually no kissing beyond a peck so she cannot qualify for GFE at all. She seemed extremely sensitive and either orgasmed from DATY in fairly short time or faked it. She did not tolerate doggy very well, but O.K. in other positions with legs a little on the stiff side. Her BBBJ was only a 6 at best, Her handjob somewhat better but I did not go there to get wanked.
Girl said she gets 3000 baht from non farang customers' fees, so house must be taking at least 2300 per booking. That is very steep overhead.
Overall assessment of her:
Skills average, level of fun average, GFE missing, body average, face well above average. My top 3 pretty girls ever from Crazy House were prettier, more GFE and more fun on the bed and cheaper. My recent Evita girl was very comparable in many things, slightly behind for face looks, but better ass, and better BBBJ and good GFE/DFK, at a fraction of the price. The Evita girl was less fun in the bath not having been taught well enough most likely.
I think one would have to spend significant time in The Lord to meet the real super stunners. They must be mostly busy and not in the line up. Without getting the super stunners, I fail to see how the other girls are really worth the price. Probably many guys will have a regular girl that looks good, is a lot of fun, fucks really great and stays all night for quite a bit less money. I am probably done with The Lord. There is just no value. O.K. for the very rich guys they take a membership and wait around to find the super stunners.
I went to The Lord expecting extra super service. I did not get that. It was O.K. but all too ordinary. To pay big money you need something out of this world, right. BTW 50% of The Lord girls have implants and a very high percentage have nose jobs. Some guys will like this. It is not a plus for me. I would automatically avoid sillies, and only take an extra subtle nose job.
If I am going to repeat the best girls I find, I know I can get one vastly cheaper such as my Evita 2K girl, and so do her a lot more often for the same money, plus get 2 hours, and get a good GFE. Its a no brainer. Collect maybe some more girls like her or even prettier but still at a good price. For guys that don't like repeating, its a roll of the dice if they get a girl that is any good. So I imagine most will want extra cheap, if going to roll the dice on the performance level.
Next assignment will be to try some cheaper Smooci girls I guess, to see if can get an exceptional girl from that source. Obviously it could be hit and miss so will have to try more than once. Also should try Tulip and SW again and see if any of the girls are palatable. I know the odd girl at Mango is O.K. for me.
My summary of The Lord girls, is the line up may have the odd stunner, plenty of non stunners, but overall is underwhelming for a guy like me allergic to surgeries. Sure they look significantly better than a Bacarra line up to me, on average but that still isn't the answer. I don't see myself paying high prices for fake stuff. There are still some average bodies there covered up. I mean average compared to best nude girl figures in the gogos. The Lord have got this game sewn up and can get away with the very high prices because the elite customers will pay them and having a large set of girls puts them well in front of other up market joints.
I was told that my white skinned girl hardly ever gets a Farang customer, because Farangs like dark skin Issan girls with big eyes and big noses. LOL Yet I picked her due to lack of surgeries and a cute little nose.[/QUOTE]I must sayn your report made me smile: you did'nt take the motorbike because of 40 Baht but gave 5800 Baht for a mean girl. Each his thing, right?
I find the lesbian show at Suzi Wong's to be boring. The one at the bar at the very end of the street across from baccara used to be awesome back around 2007. The girls they had in that show were stunning. I think that bar was called My Place or something like that back then. The one at Sheebas around that time was also quite good. The best ever was at Hollywood (now billboard) in Nana back around 2000. Hollywood used to rock back then.
I went to Billboard in Nana, the 2 drink rule was present with regards to ladies on the stage. I got 2 drinks for the best looking one there, to get her off the stage. Nice body, face and young, tall, busty, nice bubble ass and looked 19-20. But was really flaky, as is often the case with young girls. She indicated interest in in barfine. But a few problems. 1, not enough chemistry developing, her back was turned to me most of the time and she seemed distracted a lot. 2, she was more interested in talking to her friend, who seems to follow her around everywhere like it's some kind of nightclub and it's their special ladies night out. 3, when she was present and alone, she was looking around the place a lot so this is an obvious signal for lack of interest. 4, went to the "toilet" 2 times. I inquired how much and it was 700 baht BF and 3000ST. I just smiled, indicating "good luck with that" and she quickly left. She then proceeds to go to a table almost right next to mine, and probably does the same stupid stuff and as she didn't last long there either.
So I am looking for better talent now. I see a girl with a rather hot body. Actually it wasn't, but the way she carried herself made her look hot. Very slutty / sensual dancing, confident, and muscular / tone and isaan short / tan (which I do like, it's *one* of my types, not my favorite but it has its place). I was almost fairly certain she was on yabba, which well. Has it's pro's and con's. Feeling the need for a freak, to make up for the gogo queen, I got her a lady drink. I indicated I would only pay for 1 and that's what went through. She was very slutty with regards to dancing, just fun all-around. And yeah, 2 classic signs of yabba use: sweating and fingernail polish breath (she made out with me a lot). Also, the very confident and hyper / crazy shennegans were another clue to how high she was. I saw the mamasan looking at her, concerned about her erratic / raunchy behavior. BF'ed her ST and she was even more strung out and distracted in the room. But was okay, just paying for sex nothing else. And there are benefits to them being high (certainly not a starfish, just easily distracted and changing positions a lot). Offered 2500ST, but negotiated down to 2000ST. Also, back in the room, I was concerned she was going to go crazy and start biting (ie: like bite my lip off) if she got triggered somehow. And she did bite/punch quite a bit, my taste buds still hurt from when she bit my tongue.
Finally, the first girl walked by while the raunchy replacement was putting in quite a bit of effort (as she did the entire time). Not sure what her expression was as I didn't want to look at her (awkward) but I noticed a sour-face. Good luck with that. I mean, she's the one who walked off and was really flaky the whole time. I guess being that hot and young is enough service / value for some, so in-part, I don't blame her. But when you send obvious signals of being a potential starfish it scares customers away from BF. And also, I got away from Pattaya to avoid the 3000ST that is so common there. So, seeing 3000ST slap me in the face first thing in Bangkok was a turnoff so I just simply could not BF her nor did I even want to bother negotiating down.
Because I have plans to be in BKK within a couple of weeks, I would like to ask loals if the beergarden on Soi 7 (one of my favorite in afternoon) will finally close or not. Any news? Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2031848]Because I have plans to be in BKK within a couple of weeks, I would like to ask loals if the beergarden on Soi 7 (one of my favorite in afternoon) will finally close or not. Any news? Thanks!![/QUOTE]Well it depends.
Do you mean the beer garden at the end of Sukhumvit 7/1 Alley, around the corner of cheap charlies?
If so, then yes, last weekend was "finale".
Hi,
I visited Bangkok last week and didn't have the best experience.
I'm in my early 30's, Malay (darker skin) and consider myself pretty good looking. Anyway went to Thermae Bar (first time) and got turned down twice. Felt like crap! (never happened in my life? As I understand the girls here can be picky and prefer the Korean / Japanese types? So I maybe won't go back there. Eventually headed over to Climax where I met this girl at the bar, works at a hair salon, only comes in rarely. Etc etc. Anyway took her back to my hotel and had a great time.
Since then I have been communicating to her via line and told her I am back in BKK next wk. She seems keen to meet and I wouldn't mind having a guide / sex buddy. Her English is pretty good.
My question is.
1. How much should I be paying her per day? I paid 5 k for ST last time (I think I got ripped.) seems like I could have got a better girl from a soapy place for around 3 k. Yes / no? I didn't bargain (and rarely do, is that a must in BKK?
2. If I do decide to try and find another girl (for a few days) is it better to approach soapy girls and get a day rate happening rather than freelance girls at Thermae / Insanity / Climax etc?
3. What are the Soapy prices so cheap (3 k) compared to Freelance girls (5 k for ST) - assuming the boss gets a cut from the soapy that means the girl makes like 1.5 k per customer?
Any advice on how to hook up with a attractive girl for a few days would be appreciated. Everyone talks about Nataree for freelance girls, but now that is closed where have all the freelance ladies gone??
Thanks,
Cptjack.
[QUOTE=Arneis78;2031877]Well it depends.
Do you mean the beer garden at the end of Sukhumvit 7/1 Alley, around the corner of cheap charlies?
If so, then yes, last weekend was "finale".[/QUOTE]I am suspecting your memory is playing some tricks here.
Cheap Charlies is off Soi 11 acording to Google Maps and is marked closed. I don't know it. Not relevant.
The well known Beer Garden is in Soi 7 not 7/1 and was open when I visited it recently. I did not enquire about a future closure.
Parkville,
I am agreeing with your assessment that the Billboard girls were not really worthwhile.
Interesting tip re Ya Ba breath. I have taken Ice users before and not noticed anything with breath since they were smokers as well. Breathe like nail polish in the old days indicated a glue sniffer. Haven't found such a girl recently. Still its vaguely possible.
I have only barfined once from Billboard and I got an exceptionally attentive and lovey dovey girl who did not even specify a ST price. She was great and a repeat. I just got lucky. She since acquired a sponser and does not work there anymore. So I lost contact. She did not really fit in to Billboard well. Not at all raunchy but exceptionally lovely. Great GFE.
Subsequent visits could not find any pretty girl remotely similar that gave the right vibe.
Hunting for the right chemistry is not always easy.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2031644]I find the lesbian show at Suzi Wong's to be boring. The one at the bar at the very end of the street across from baccara used to be awesome back around 2007. The girls they had in that show were stunning. I think that bar was called My Place or something like that back then. The one at Sheebas around that time was also quite good. The best ever was at Hollywood (now billboard) in Nana back around 2000. Hollywood used to rock back then.[/QUOTE]Very end has been Old Dutch forever. Joy Ngwen maybe. It has been replaced by Cockatoos opposite Bacarra. Shebas was my favourite bar till it closed. Suzi W staff doing show may have declined. I have not seen their lesbian show for maybe a year. At one time they had Bo a real bisexual and Dtom very expert. Suzi was similar to Sheba especially just after the amalgamation.
[QUOTE=ParkVille;2031803]I went to Billboard in Nana, the 2 drink rule was present with regards to ladies on the stage. I got 2 drinks for the best looking one there, to get her off the stage. Nice body, face and young, tall, busty, nice bubble ass and looked 19-20. But was really flaky, as is often the case with young girls. She indicated interest in in barfine. But a few problems. 1, not enough chemistry developing, her back was turned to me most of the time and she seemed distracted a lot. 2, she was more interested in talking to her friend, who seems to follow her around everywhere like it's some kind of nightclub and it's their special ladies night out. 3, when she was present and alone, she was looking around the place a lot so this is an obvious signal for lack of interest. 4, went to the "toilet" 2 times. I inquired how much and it was 700 baht BF and 3000ST. I just smiled, indicating "good luck with that" and she quickly left. She then proceeds to go to a table almost right next to mine, and probably does the same stupid stuff and as she didn't last long there either.
[/QUOTE]I think Billboard is a horrible place, been there twice and both times got mega harassed by agressive mamasans repeatedly for taking ladys, lady drinks and more drinks during the 15 minutes it took me to have a beer. Then out of there in a hurry. Can hardly see anything in there either, they keep it so dark.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2032044]I think Billboard is a horrible place, been there twice and both times got mega harassed by agressive mamasans repeatedly for taking ladys, lady drinks and more drinks during the 15 minutes it took me to have a beer. Then out of there in a hurry. Can hardly see anything in there either, they keep it so dark.[/QUOTE]I agree its too f'ing dark in there. They don't want you to realise that a lot of girls are not that pretty. I don't like the gloom so it's far from my favourite place. Twisters is a well lit bar. Higher quality girls for looks IMHO. However, I would still rate Billboard as one of the better bars in Nana, probably because there are a fairly good number of slim girls with no surgeries.
I don't see this place as "mega hassle" at all. The fat mamasan is really bad news, but I stay well away from her. Learn to ignore people that don't interest you perhaps. I fail to make eye contact with lots of uninteresting people, nor talk to them. It works moderately well. I certainly recall attempts to interest me in some girl, all thoroughly ignored. Guys are not going to call down too many girls with the 2 drinks policy. Customers in a group jumping around partying were more of a bother to me.
Most severe harassment I ever experienced at Nana would be RB3 a few years back, so never returned, and more recently Mandarin (downstairs). Don't recall any others. So maybe I have a thick skin and tolerate more than many, together with refining my ignoring tactics. Have not visited RB1 in a long time. Is there a RB2?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2031973]Very end has been Old Dutch forever. Joy Ngwen maybe. It has been replaced by Cockatoos opposite Bacarra. Shebas was my favourite bar till it closed. Suzi W staff doing show may have declined. I have not seen their lesbian show for maybe a year. At one time they had Bo a real bisexual and Dtom very expert. Suzi was similar to Sheba especially just after the amalgamation.[/QUOTE]The very end is some restaurant. I'm talking about the first gogo right next to that restaurant across the street from Bacarra. It was something like My Place at the time. They changed the name to Rio I believe for a while and now it's something else. It's right before that lady boy bar. That gogo was awesome in the mid 2000's, now it's garbage with mostly coyote dancers.
[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2031632][QUOTE=Syzygies;2031328]
...I think one would have to spend significant time in The Lord to meet the real super stunners. They must be mostly busy and not in the line up. Without getting the super stunners, I fail to see how the other girls are really worth the price.
...I went to The Lord expecting extra super service. I did not get that. It was O.K. but all too ordinary...[/QUOTE]
I must say your report made me smile: you did'nt take the motorbike because of 40 Baht but gave 5800 Baht for a mean girl. Each his thing, right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that was funny alright. I also went to the Lord this afternoon, for my 2nd visit ever I think. Some respected ISG members seem to like that place, and I like eye candy. I remember being underwhelmed on my first visit, so I was not sure what to expect. I walked in there around 4 pm and there were about a dozen girls on stage. It took me close to 10 min to get rid of the staff helper. After that, it took me only a few minutes to pick my girl. I ended up picking a 6,400 baht girl.
She was tall, definitely eye candy, with a pair of enhanced Ds, slim body with nice curves. Once in the room and naked, I liked her even more. She was not receptive to chatting initially, so I shut up and let her do her job. She knew what she was doing and I was pleased, even though it appeared like for her, it was another day at the office with another customer. She covered all the bases, nice BBBJ with DT, Russian, DATY. She did not appear receptive to kissing and I did not attempt any. However, towards the end of the session, she had a change of heart, and initiated DFK. There was plenty of DFK after that.
I must say that I lucked out this time around, as I was very pleased with the girl and the session overall.