Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2032094]The very end is some restaurant. I'm talking about the first gogo right next to that restaurant across the street from Bacarra. It was something like My Place at the time. They changed the name to Rio I believe for a while and now it's something else. It's right before that lady boy bar. That gogo was awesome in the mid 2000's, now it's garbage with mostly coyote dancers.[/QUOTE]I see that Evianist wrote about going into (Club) Rio in Feb 2010 so Our Place has been gone at least 7 years. In Feb 2009 someone wrote a report about a girl Joy seemingly working at both Midnite and Our Place so presumeably Our Place and Midnite were closely affiliated, perhaps because the "Arab" was buying up these bars, perhaps not. I don't recall exactly when the Arab was buying. I do recall fucking a special dancer Anna upstairs at Midnite but forget what year. I suppose that should be before the Arab took over. Probably around 2007 or so.

There were never really a great deal of reports about "Our Place" that I can recall so not sure exactly when it's heyday was. By 2006 shortly after I had joined the forum, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Doll House, Suzi Wong, Sheba, Bacarra, Shark, Midnite, Deja Vu, Tilac, used to get a lot more publicity, even Toy Bar. I don't recall going into Our Place too many times, nor what year I would have tried it. I did like to have a look in most larger bars at some point.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2033204]I was very satisfied with the service I received in BKK this trip. Not one bad experience in 5 weeks and many memorable ones, but I would not compare Go Go girl sex, even the best, with the professional porn star sessions I received at the Lord. The girls look different too.
[/QUOTE]My favourite Crazy House girls are way better than the M class girl I got at The Lord, for enthusiasm, fun, GFE, etc. None of them porn stars though. The Lord Girl had a pretty face however, I have had better at Crazy for the face also, with past gone girls Nat, May Lee, and Donut. So I don't understand why you not compare best go go girls.

The one recent Soapy girl that I will repeat, was at Evita for 2K Baht, number M20 I think. Nearly as pretty as the M class Lord girl and body actually slightly better. Skin darker, but that does not bother me at all. She was a little boring in the bath, but I am sure I can train her up what to do in the bath.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2033204]
As to barebacking; its a two way street. Both parties have to want it for it to happen. There are some BKK girls that always request a condom no matter how many times you shag them, some BKK girls that will bareback after the 2nd, 3rd, or nth time you see them, and some BKK girls that will bareback from the get go. I don't know a thing about German FKK's, but in Thailand the default is BBBJ's and covered sex. Its been this way since the mid 80's, so I always expect a BBBJ, but I never expect a bareback ride especially from a new girl and so I am ocassionally surprised when it is offered, but I never ask for it or negotiate for it. I think it would kill the vibe. Its kind of like a Forrest Gump "box of chocolates" thing to me (with new girls).
[/QUOTE]Some girls are inconsistent too. It is very possible indeed that many girls are not taking birth control pills, so they need the condom to prevent getting pregnant, but at certain times of the month, they figure they won't get pregnant. When they have a condom accident, many are in situation where they have to take the morning after pills, and one girl told me there is a medicine that can be effective up to 72 hours afterwards, but I did not know about that or if is correct.

Pregnant bargirls are popping up all over the place, and of course I usually don't get to know if that was from their Thai boy, or occasionally accident with customer. I recall one lovely girl at Suzie Wong a few years back who had left the bar work but previously had a child from a customer, who did not want to take responsibility, naturally enough. The girl was really my type and a lovely fuck so I was disappointed to have only ever had the chance to take her once together with her friend Noi, when she was just visiting the bar (not even officially working).

In my experience, a very significant percentage of girls, when asked, stated that they did not take the pill for birth control. At least some were telling the truth. Puzzled me as to why, since it helps reduce the duration of periods as well as being safer.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033258]I see that Evianist wrote about going into (Club) Rio in Feb 2010 so Our Place has been gone at least 7 years. In Feb 2009 someone wrote a report about a girl Joy seemingly working at both Midnite and Our Place so presumeably Our Place and Midnite were closely affiliated, perhaps because the "Arab" was buying up these bars, perhaps not. I don't recall exactly when the Arab was buying. I do recall fucking a special dancer Anna upstairs at Midnite but forget what year. I suppose that should be before the Arab took over. Probably around 2007 or so.

There were never really a great deal of reports about "Our Place" that I can recall so not sure exactly when it's heyday was. By 2006 shortly after I had joined the forum, Long Gun, Raw Hide, Doll House, Suzi Wong, Sheba, Bacarra, Shark, Midnite, Deja Vu, Tilac, used to get a lot more publicity, even Toy Bar. I don't recall going into Our Place too many times, nor what year I would have tried it. I did like to have a look in most larger bars at some point.[/QUOTE]Our place was rocking around 2008 I believe. The lesbian show there was off the hook. I remember one night I was there and some young farang was watching the lesbian show. One of the girls was eating the other girl out and had her ass way up in the air right in front of his face. He plowed his tongue into her ass and ate her ass and pussy for a good 2 minutes while she ate out the other girl on stage. Both girls were extremely hot. The look of enjoyment on that girl's face while the guy was eating her out was priceless. She was loving it.

Yes, it was owned by that Arab. I remember the girls weren't allowed to buy french fries from the restaurant next door because he had an argument with that restaurant over something.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2033311]Our place was rocking around 2008 I believe. The lesbian show there was off the hook. I remember one night I was there and some young farang was watching the lesbian show. One of the girls was eating the other girl out and had her ass way up in the air right in front of his face. He plowed his tongue into her ass and ate her ass and pussy for a good 2 minutes while she ate out the other girl on stage. Both girls were extremely hot. The look of enjoyment on that girl's face while the guy was eating her out was priceless. She was loving it.

Yes, it was owned by that Arab. I remember the girls weren't allowed to buy french fries from the restaurant next door because he had an argument with that restaurant over something.[/QUOTE]That Iranian "Arab".

So was he the owner when still called Our Place rather than Rio, and was sex available in his bars, officially. I recall that his bars set very high BF prices for Coyote girls and that there was no guarantee you would get sex from the girls. So I would be surprised if Our Place had such a lesbian show after he took the bar over.

Still remains a strong rumour through people that work in Cowboy, that his bars don't make money and are purely there for money laundering purposes.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033317]That Iranian "Arab".

So was he the owner when still called Our Place rather than Rio, and was sex available in his bars, officially. I recall that his bars set very high BF prices for Coyote girls and that there was no guarantee you would get sex from the girls. So I would be surprised if Our Place had such a lesbian show after he took the bar over.

Still remains a strong rumour through people that work in Cowboy, that his bars don't make money and are purely there for money laundering purposes.[/QUOTE]He was definitely the owner back then. None of the girls liked him. They did discontinue the lesbian show (and all the other shows) at one point. I am not sure if that is when he purchased it or if they just discontinued it. There were no coyote dancers at the time (at least none that I recall) and I am pretty sure you could have sex with any girl in the bar. I took many girls home from there until I found the best girl in the history of Soi Cowboy there and stuck with her exclusively from that point on. The shows were numerous, not just that lesbian show. They had a lot of good ones. The shows were better than at Suzi Wong and the place was much much nicer (I have always considered Suzi Wong to be a crap hole) and the girls were better looking, so I rarely set foot in Suzi Wong back then. I always felt sorry for the girl doing the candle wax show where she melted all that wax all over her body. That had to hurt. Sexy though. Sheeba had a decent lesbian show back then as well, but not as good. At the time, Our Place and Sheeba were the best 2 bars on Soi Cowboy in my opinion. Now they are both gone and replaced by garbage gogos that I never enter.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033272]Some girls are inconsistent too. It is very possible indeed that many girls are not taking birth control pills, so they need the condom to prevent getting pregnant, .[/QUOTE]What you are overlooking is that the female can psych herself up so she does not have periods at all. In fact that is what many of the bar girls do, and that is why most of them have very light periods, there is no ovulation, it's all supressed, and that is why many do not see a big danger in BBFS.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;2033335]What you are overlooking is that the female can psych herself up so she does not have periods at all. In fact that is what many of the bar girls do, and that is why most of them have very light periods, there is no ovulation, it's all supressed, and that is why many do not see a big danger in BBFS.[/QUOTE]While women's periods can be reduced due to hormones (including taking birth control pill) and reducing nutrition (women on severe or crash diets have been known to stop ovulating and therefore no periods, I have never heard of any woman anywhere ever being able to control or reduce her periods or her fertility in any way due to mind control alone, what you call "psych herself up".

Many of the bar girls have light and short periods precisely because they are on a birth control pills. Some of them work through their periods or at least through parts of their periods by wearing a diaphragm. If properly worn and the male is not too vigorous, no one is the wiser and the blood is kept up in the cervix until she flushes it out later. It is one of the oldest hooker tricks in the book. As a diaphragm is also meant as a birth control method, the girls can wear one while providing BBFS too and so avoid pregnancy but the punter is none the wiser.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033317]That Iranian "Arab".

So was he the owner when still called Our Place rather than Rio, and was sex available in his bars, officially. I recall that his bars set very high BF prices for Coyote girls and that there was no guarantee you would get sex from the girls. So I would be surprised if Our Place had such a lesbian show after he took the bar over.

Still remains a strong rumour through people that work in Cowboy, that his bars don't make money and are purely there for money laundering purposes.[/QUOTE]When he acquired his first bar, Midnight, it marked the beginning of the downfall of Cowboy. Higher drink prices, higher bar fines, and the beginning of the Coyote nightmare. His bars were never crowded, yet he bought more and more of them. One wonders what was really going on. LOL!

Midnight was great bar before the "Arab. " 500 Baht BF and that included use of one of the ST rooms upstairs. All drinks and lady drinks were 100 Baht and the gals were very happy with 1 K Baht ST. Gals were trained never to get upset if a guy came in and took a different lady every night. The numbers I racked up in there. The second floor had a bar and we used to have private parties up there. 5 or so of us would BF 10 or so gals, and they would not charge us for the use of the room; we'd just pay for drinks for ourselves and the gals. Wild it was. Those three ST rooms upstairs stayed very busy. Great times. Could not even imagine anything like that going on in Cowboy these days.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2033404]When he acquired his first bar, Midnight, it marked the beginning of the downfall of Cowboy. Higher drink prices, higher bar fines, and the beginning of the Coyote nightmare. His bars were never crowded, yet he bought more and more of them. One wonders what was really going on. LOL!

Midnight was great bar before the "Arab. " 500 Baht BF and that included use of one of the ST rooms upstairs. All drinks and lady drinks were 100 Baht and the gals were very happy with 1 K Baht ST. Gals were trained never to get upset if a guy came in and took a different lady every night. The numbers I racked up in there. The second floor had a bar and we used to have private parties up there. 5 or so of us would BF 10 or so gals, and they would not charge us for the use of the room; we'd just pay for drinks for ourselves and the gals. Wild it was. Those three ST rooms upstairs stayed very busy. Great times. Could not even imagine anything like that going on in Cowboy these days.[/QUOTE]I was not a regular there, because I had been out of the bar scene for a few years till returned to Cowboy 2005 or 2006.

I recall taking very slim Anna who performed special dance shows, upstairs and she fucked like there was no tomorrow. I wondered if she was on something. She completely forgot about the next show she supposed to do so they had come looking for her. LOL Many years later I found her working as a Coyote in Mercury with short blonde hair and teeth braces, still very skinny, and easily the best Coyote dancer. So fucked her again for old times sake. She was still pretty good but maybe not quite as wild.

Midnight is one of the very long running bars in Cowboy but has changed hands several times. In 1991 approx. When I first came to Thailand without a wife, I was shown the "Midnight Upstairs" bar on the first night by a buddy I met while studying Thai language, the bar run by two Aussies Dave and John. Some years later the Thai partner in the business swindled them out of it. I BFed a slim girl there for the night and paid her 500 baht for the night. She did not wake up when I took pictures of her lying naked even using a flash. LOL I think she was pretty good as far as I knew. It was a separate bar to the downstairs bar in those days. The downstairs was a more quiet bar for drinks with an open front door from memory.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;2033335]What you are overlooking is that the female can psych herself up so she does not have periods at all. In fact that is what many of the bar girls do, and that is why most of them have very light periods, there is no ovulation, it's all supressed, and that is why many do not see a big danger in BBFS.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. You really make me laugh. Sounds like a tall story to me. I suggest read up on the internet. There are a few myths around. Then you can quote a reliable source. LOL

Girls who do not have periods are typically taking birth control pills non stop. Others may pretend they don't have a period but in fact stuff a small yellow sponge up there called a "Luuk Jiap" (literally means a "chick" - baby chicken).

There are girls taking injections of special birth control medication. That may prevent periods for extended time, I don't know. I have also heard fasting can cause a girl to miss periods but it would not be reliable. There are medications that talk about just 4 periods per year.

I usually never note the number. Kind of a space cadet in that regards. But the name Fon sounds familiar. I would have to go again, probably will want to try other gogo's, if I even go. I'm more of a soapy massage guy honestly as I find the ST value to be better. But gogo's have their place for drinking / partying and potential to click and take it to LT. I guess gogo's are more of a hunt, for those who like that. I prefer value (price to quality) myself so I focus on soapies and will probably branch out to freelancers now that I have more free time at night.

[QUOTE=Zuperfly;2033046]Was this #77, 'Fon'?

If yes, lucky to get her for 2,000.

So I am looking for better talent now. I see a girl with a rather hot body. Actually it wasn't, but the way she carried herself made her look hot. Very slutty / sensual dancing, confident, and muscular / tone and Isaan short / tan (which I do like, it's *one* of my types, not my favorite but it has its place). I was almost fairly certain she was on yabba, which well. Has it's pro's and con's. Feeling the need for a freak, to make up for the gogo queen, I got her a lady drink. I indicated I would only pay for 1 and that's what went through. She was very slutty with regards to dancing, just fun all-around. And yeah, 2 classic signs of yabba use: sweating and fingernail polish breath (she made out with me a lot). Also, the very confident and hyper / crazy shenanigans were another clue to how high she was. I saw the mamasan looking at her, concerned about her erratic / raunchy behavior. BF'ed her ST and she was even more strung out and distracted in the room. But was okay, just paying for sex nothing else. And there are benefits to them being high (certainly not a starfish, just easily distracted and changing positions a lot). Offered 2500ST, but negotiated down to 2000ST. Also, back in the room, I was concerned she was going to go crazy and start biting (IE: like bite my lip off) if she got triggered somehow. And she did bite / punch quite a bit, my taste buds still hurt from when she bit my tongue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax;2033133]What the hell is a "standard" bar fine at CH these days? I've seen people say 2500, but also 3000. Tonight I was quoted 4000 (short time!) by a girl whose body type I is my favorite (pretty spinner, small tits) whom I proceeded to buy a lady drink for. She then took off to sit with another customer for the rest of the night. Annoying behavior. Maybe par for the course, I realize. But any tips on how to avoid this? I'm not too old or bad looking, by the way, so I'm pretty sure the problem isn't me. I'm also super polite, friendly, chill. Just don't get it.[/QUOTE]This is what happens when there are too many customers: prices shoot up and the girls get to pick who they fuck. Just leave, stop going there if you don't want to be frustrated and look for greener pastures. Always be looking for greener pastures.

[QUOTE=Daebis;2033049]Hi,

Any genuine tantra massage places, read about outcall sites that offer no sex but complete pleasure.

Also any great 4 hand massage places.

Visiting BKK next week for 3 days.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've gotten this at honey bee before. It was about 4000 or 4500 baht and includes FS. Not sure if they have a HJ only option but it never hurts to ask! I personally stopped going to honeybee because I'm kind of picky about quality and the girls there all seem kind of fat. But if they are giving tantric massage while you lay down, fat probably doesn't matter.

So the clubs in Bangkok such as Insanity, levels, climax, mixx, etc. Are any of them smoke free?? I know climax isn't smoke free, but if there is just 1 that is smoke free, then they'll have my business.