Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Daebis;2033551]Gorgeous girl worked at suz w. Not a dancer more of a hostess, Ewww was her name I think.

Any idea where she is and what she up to?[/QUOTE]Girls were in 3 categories: Dancers, waitresses, and mamasans, so I guess Ehw would be a waitress (hostess). I recall one or two very nice girls in this category. However someone would need to ask LB mamasan Dtai what happened to her. You need to collect contact info for all important girls. Even then the contact info suddenly stops working regularly.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2033440]This is what happens when there are too many customers: prices shoot up and the girls get to pick who they fuck. Just leave, stop going there if you don't want to be frustrated and look for greener pastures. Always be looking for greener pastures.[/QUOTE]I don't think its a matter of "picking who they fuck". Their end game is to get you to barfine them and get you into a room for a ST and then get back into the bar so they can try and service as many as they can handle in a night. In this case, she gave the guy a price, he balked and she moved on. He had his chance. I find that the ladies that really stand out mostly operate in this manner. Beauty fades quite quickly in this biz so they've got to maximize their earnings.

Haven't you ever been in an a-go-go and saw a hottie with another guy and then snatched her when she went up to dance?

5 or 6 years ago, Shark Bar was my favorite a-go-go to visit when I wanted that sort of experience. They had a few cuties there and it was also a very mixed crowd of punters and the selection of the girls was varied with some catering to Asians and others to farangs. On one occasion, a particularly busy night, I spotted this new lady, very Eurasian looking, my ultimate spec. She also had a rocker vibe about her, crazy hair, thick smokey eyeliner, and knee high tube socks. She also had a couple of big tats which completed the homage.

My old MO, when I actually cared if the girl was attracted to me or not, was to do a lot of eye contact and to get them to tease me while on stage. If they played along then I would buy them a LD. I was so into this girl that I totally skipped that bit of vetting all-together.

As soon as we saw each other I made the drink gesture. She tried to play the 'Who? Me?' game for a second and then looked over to my right at another guy and gave him the drink gesture and pointed to me and mouthed 'sorry' and then came down to sit with me. The guy gave me this look that I imagine a guy would give when he walked in on his wife being anally plowed by the young buff pool boy.

As I watched her walk toward me with those hungry eyes, I couldn't help but notice the other guy in a tiff as he grabbed the nearest hostess and began to bark at her while looking and point at the lady approaching me. The hostess didn't really seem to care much and said something to him while point to a half empty drink on his table.

The lady came to rest next to me and we began to chit chat. I asked her if she was with the other guy and she said he only bought her a LD but he didn't own her. OK. I asked her if she wanted a drink and she accepted and we talked up until the point that she had to go and dance again. I told her that I was interested in taking her out of the bar and she told me 2500, the standard rate at that time. I told her 1,500 is normally what I pay and she gave me this sort of smirk that I took as 'we'll see'. Not going to lie, I felt a bit stung by her response but at the same time I respected her resolve.

As I alluded to previously, around this time I could consistently get working girls for much lower than what they normally charged. It became a game and I actually thought that it made me feel special or something along those lines but over time I've come to feel guilty about it, feeling like I was taking advantage of their situation as often times they would want something more on a emotional / personal level. These days I don't haggle much, I consider the qualities of the lady and then set a price point and if we can't agree right away I move on. Nothing personal, its just business.

So back to Shark's. The other guy was still sitting at his table, fuming, but at the sight of his infatuation returning to the stage, he perked up. Like a jack rabbit in heat, he grabbed the hostess, the same that he was just shouting at, and based on his abrupt pointing at the dancer and then at the seat next him led me to surmise that he wanted her off the stage. One would think that the hostess would be extremely dutiful at such a direct command but instead she chose to do her best slow loris imitation while going to notify the lady about his request.

After being summoned from her lofty pole, she gave me a solid stare and smirked again and then turned her attention to the other more eager gentleman.

A couple of months later, I returned to Shark. It was a fairly slow night, maybe 5 customers in the joint. As I was being escorted to an empty booth in the upper row and glanced up at the stage see who was working, sure enough there was the rocker chick. As soon as she saw me she gave me that same smirk as before and then the drink gesture. I hesitated and then after a playful 'hmmmm' expression I signaled her over. She immediately jumped down and came to sit beside me. She said she was happy to see me and and I returned the pleasantry. She went on to tell me about the last time I was there and that she was sorry that she didn't accept my proposal but the other guy wanted her more.

She was so indifferent about the situation so I congratulated her on her business saviness and we chilled for a bit, had a few drinks, and then I took her out for a nice ST session. Ego intact.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2033419]Ha ha. You really make me laugh. Sounds like a tall story to me. I suggest read up on the internet. There are a few myths around. Then you can quote a reliable source. LOL

Girls who do not have periods are typically taking birth control pills non stop. Others may pretend they don't have a period but in fact stuff a small yellow sponge up there called a "Luuk Jiap" (literally means a "chick" - baby chicken).

There are girls taking injections of special birth control medication. That may prevent periods for extended time, I don't know. I have also heard fasting can cause a girl to miss periods but it would not be reliable. There are medications that talk about just 4 periods per year.[/QUOTE]Not going to ask Dr Google about this, have known many girls in the way I described and it is a fact. Also knew of a shit bloke who married a thai woman, he also shagged her mother, he actually thought his wife was preggers again, but she had just turned off. It happens, maybe you might like to ask a gyno doctor.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;2033753]Not going to ask Dr Google about this, have known many girls in the way I described and it is a fact. It happens, maybe you might like to ask a gyno doctor.[/QUOTE]Might seem strange, but I don't typically consult Gyno doctors. I do know one in another country. There is no web info around though, That I can see, that suggests that women can control ovulation so easily, mind over matter. If girls can just turn off, how come so many young girls are getting accidentally pregnant? Perhaps the girl thought she "turned off" LOL but actually was still able to get pregnant. Girls are not really well educated about their own periods, and can easily have strange beliefs not based on any science.

Anyway, I don't believe stuff too easily unless there is pretty good evidence, especially when it comes to powers of the mind.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;2033753]Not going to ask Dr Google about this, have known many girls in the way I described and it is a fact. Also knew of a shit bloke who married a thai woman, he also shagged her mother, he actually thought his wife was preggers again, but she had just turned off. It happens, maybe you might like to ask a gyno doctor.[/QUOTE]A woman's cycle can be altered when she feels extreme bouts of depression, stress, or anxiety but the effects are random. There is no way for a woman to literally control the cycle with her mind. There must have been some other environmental stimulus involved like medication or they were just lying.

During my Bangkok visit last week I managed to visit some of the recommended bars in Nana and Soi cowboy.

As I mentioned before, Gogo bars are not my type so I'm not evaluating any experiences here with a Gogo girl, I just went to spend some time and watch the action with a couple of beers in every place.

As I read here I put on my list Billboard, Twisters from NEP and I added Angelwitch to check as because of the Rock music as I'm a fan.

From Soi Cowboy I put Crazyhouse, SuzieWong and Baccara for the popularity of the name.

NEP: Friday evening.

Billboard: Was the first place to visit, place was almost packed but I managed to sit on one of the benches, overall selection of girls was good, the overall attitude and behavior was very bad and pushy, the lady who escorted to my sitting bench insisted on pushing one of the girls to be my companion, I told her that I'm not going to choose a girl that day and I just came for 2 beers and leave, she doesn't care, my lady companion (#154) asked for a drink without taking my permission, I was not in the mood for arguments so I surrendered, I took my first beer and the lady took I tequila, before I finished my first beer the waitress came to ask me what I would like to drink more, again I ordered a second beer, the lady beside me was not talking and seems not interested, when her showtime was about to start she just left with no excuses, I finished my second beer and left.

Overall experience: may be nice selection of girls but the attitude inside is very bad.

Twisters: far more better than Billboard when speaking to the behavior of the management, no one there was pushy or rude, nothing to complain about, however the girls selection in BB was slightly better.

Angelwitch: Total crap, no rock music, very limited selection of girls all of them were not appealing, again pushy management, tried to force me to a certain lady but this time I was firm enough, boring shows and music, after 10 minutes I found a lady came and sit beside me asking me again to get her a drink, I refused gently but she just stayed beside me not talking and when I was going to leave she asked me to tip her for staying with me, I refused gently and left after about 20 minutes.

Soi Cowboy: Saturday night.

SuzieWong: Large selection of girls but most of them are average looking and may be old to some people's taste, some weird shows with pingpong balls, not my type but the ladies there looks interested in providing some fun, management attitude is very good and not pushy, the place was fun but may be the girls selection is not good.

Baccara: just stayed there for less than 2 minutes due to the place which was over packed with people, I didn't notice any nudes inside but there was a big selection of girls.

Crazyhouse: I think it was the best place over all, the best selection of girls among the other bars, lots of nude flesh everywhere, managed to have a chair on the bench between the stage and the bar, attitude is not annoying at all, overall seems like older ladies knows how to present themselves better than the younger ones, they are always smiling and appealing however I have to admit that the best selection of girls with different types was in CH, #63 (as long as I remember) was about to drive me crazy enough to decide to take a bar girl for the first time in LOS because of her dancing skills which was a lot seductive to my taste and her attractive smile and eye contacts shows how this lady is having abilities and know how to arouse a man, but one of the customers was locking her to himself, he was sitting on the stage underneath her and kept on flirting her till the end of the show as she went directly to him and they left together after a short while, the most annoying thing I saw there is some people trying to tip the ladies on stage with weird methods like putting money inside their vaginas.

It was strange for me specially that I felt the ladies are not interested with such things, I don't know if this is a common thing or not inside the place.

Overall experience with CH: it is the place to go for nice action to see and to choose a girl from. I will think to have a Gogo experience next visit.

I'm assuming that Cowboy, Nana, etc. Will all be closed for the Visakha Bucha holiday tonight (May 10), can anyone confirm? Anyone know of any places still open. Have a friend visiting town. On an unrelated note. Visited Kasalong again today. I swear service there seems to be in decline, which is sad. Really was my favorite. Un-engaged, no technique BBBJ and no CIM from girl. I wonder if there's been a change in the way the management is working or something. Probably shouldn't complain as it's still a pretty special thing to be able to do on any given Tuesday. Still, observing a downward trend.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;2033753]Not going to ask Dr Google about this, have known many girls in the way I described and it is a fact. Also knew of a shit bloke who married a thai woman, he also shagged her mother, he actually thought his wife was preggers again, but she had just turned off. It happens, maybe you might like to ask a gyno doctor.[/QUOTE]Say hallo to Father Christmas when you see him next.

Last time I met him I was 5-6 years old. Lost his track since then.

First night in town, got in late, after midnight. Hurried to hotel across from Soi Cowboy and then scampered over. Lights are all out!

I missed it. Wandered the streets through and around it for what seemed an eternity (about 30 minutes). On second pass through the darkened Soi Cowboy alleyway, saw a girl (sitting amongst others and she caught my eye. I stopped, she looked, said, "Come sit by me". Small talk, arrangements, in a taxi to her place / room close by.

Her body was so petite, and almost skinny perfect. I was starting to worry if maybe she was a he. Must have read my mind in the cab as she glided my hand over her crotch.

Her name is Amber. Skinny, but healthy skinny. Such abs. Amazing. Just a tight little body and maybe the smallest, tightest punani I've ever seen / tasted / been inside. Bolt ONS that almost look like they're going to explode through what little room she has under her skin. Just an A+ experience.

Couldn't understand 90% of what she was saying, even though she was speaking English, but I have her on Line and when I find out where she works I'll let you know.

Well. After I leave town anyway.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2033472]So the clubs in Bangkok such as Insanity, levels, climax, mixx, etc. Are any of them smoke free?? I know climax isn't smoke free, but if there is just 1 that is smoke free, then they'll have my business.[/QUOTE]I don't notice the smoke in Climax like before, Insanity is the same.

Trip report of my 2 week-ends in BKK:

1st week-end:

Climax was still alive, which is one of my fav. Hunting place (no bar fine, plenty of choices). But I have to say that the quality of the girls was pretty average. So much so that it took me ages to choose a girl, in fact it was closing time (4 am) when I asked a girl out. She was very friendly and relaxed, so I thought that she would be good in bed.

Average looking girl but with good attitude.

Sex was okay, nothing special, damage was 2000 be which is the ongoing rate for a freelancer.

Next night I went to Hillary 3 in the same Soi 11.

Again, the selection was poor, except a couple of girls who looked okay. The best thing about Hillary 3 was the music! Really good, but then I wasn't going there for the music.

So I walked up and down Sukhumvit to see what was on offer in the streets.

Lots of Africans (I'm not too keen on them), lots of ugly looking girls, lots of ladyboys, and a few okay girls. Passed.

I finally went to Nana plaza and found a good looking, friendly, bubbly girl and took her back. Again damage was 2000 be for a fairly good session.

But overall not too impressed with what I saw.

2nd week-end:

Totally shocked at learning that Climax closed its doors for good. Where should I go now?

I like the concept of a club / pub with freelancers and no barfine!

So I went to Insanity club. A bit by chance.

The venue is okay, the music good (more techno / dance than Climax), and more importantly girls.

Well, again, lots of average to ugly girls, but I noticed a few stunners!

Unfortunately, I got there a bit late, and some of them were taken already, but I believe that if you go there early (that's before 2 am as I did. !) you have a good chance to meet them!

Entry is 300 B and beer is 200 B.

When I choose a girl, I alway look for a sexy one (easy in Asia) that seems to have fun. I've been pretty lucky with my choices so far with this strategy.

And this girl was dancing like it was the last day of her life, and I thought that if she can move her body like that on a dance floor, then she can do the same in bed!

And indeed she was good in bed, moving her body over my dick with real passion!

Very GFE and ready to do it twice that night, it was a good experience, and it felt that she just wanted a good fuck with a guy rather than a paid sexual relation.

Still paid 2000 B, well worth it.

So there we go, Climax is closed, but there are other options, and I'm very curious to hear about your favourite Climax-style venues out there.

Thanks for sharing.

Only slept a few hours and decided to check out S22 a kapoo massage place I'd heard about, but it was now called B2 and I saw no one mingling around it, so. I chickened out and went by my old fav Kasalong.

It had rained today, so it was just slightly cooler than sitting next to a car that's been running for an hour, so when I got there I ordered a water (190 baht! And my favorite girl was nowhere to be seen, so I took someone named. Ah, hell, I can't remember her name. But she was the youngest looking girl there.

Speaking of which, I later googled for some info on S22 and apparently it had gotten raided a few years ago for trafficking under 18 girls. Yikes! No thank you!

So anyway, I paid my usual extra to get her butt naked. She didn't really want to take her bottoms off (period time), but I insisted that 'I' didn't mind, not really thinking that maybe SHE minded.

You'll all be happy to know that CIM did occur and she quickly spit it into wash towel, and she was really good at her job. Wish I could remember her name but, I'll just have to 'wing it' next time. She was pretty easy to choose, because the selection there was kinda. Lame. Mid day, about 1:00.

Does anyone go at night? I always go during the day.

Went and got a few more hours sleep, had a steak, and then went to Soi Cowboy again, where most of the lights were still out! Guess I missed the posts about Visakha Bucha. A few were open, Lighthouse, Suzy Wong, and. Shark, one I had never been in. I met a girl named Tacky, who pronounces it what sounds like Fuck-ee. Pretty girl with small breasts, a little taller than I normally like (but I'm a sucker for a nice girl if I sit and start talking), reddish brown hair longer on one side. She was really nice and I asked her to pick out another girl (usually a bad idea) and she chose her friend Nan.

This time it was a really good choice. Short blonde hair with light blue streaks, spinner with small boobs and some kick ass tattoos. They said 20 - Tacky was 30 but looked early 20's. So off we went back to my near by hotel and had a shower and a bunch of fun. Nan was another girl who's coochie was really small (geez I've hit the jackpot so far on this trip). As a threesome, I could be picky and say, I've had a hell of a lot better threesomes for free. Neither was really into doing anything with the other. But we ended it all with a double BBBJ that I could watch in the mirror and I was happy with it.

Yes, I didn't finish while having sex with either of them. Sometimes I just want to last and last. Oh, and of note. It was 3000 baht short time for each of them and 700 bar fine for Tacky, but 1500 bar fine for Nan. It sucks. But I just figured, maybe she'll be worth it. She IS, as long as you don't want GFE. She can be a little standoffish / shy, but she is a little tight body, with a small vagina. Like I said, I was happy.

Happy enough that we went and got dinner afterwards at the place across the alley from Sharks. Really good food. Enjoyable company. I know most here could care less about that part of it, but. I didn't mind that I spent that money on them.

During dinner I started to wonder if the restaurant had short time rooms for rent upstairs as these amazing looking (and dressed) women kept coming down with, not so great looking guys. Anyway, Tacky and Nan were a lot of fun to hang out with and talk to. Nan was a little more quiet and to herself, but Tacky was really cool and I'm going to go by and have a drink with her again after this holiday is over.

And on the way back to my hotel I realized. This is still Wednesday night! I notched four in just under 24 hours. Off to a great start on this trip!

Now though. I need some sleep.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2033946]Yes, I didn't finish while having sex with either of them. Sometimes I just want to last and last. Oh, and of note. It was 3000 baht short time for each of them and 700 bar fine for Tacky, but 1500 bar fine for Nan. It sucks. But I just figured, maybe she'll be worth it. She IS, as long as you don't want GFE. She can be a little standoffish / shy, but she is a little tight body, with a small vagina. Like I said, I was happy.[/QUOTE]I was in some GoGos for the first time in ages the other night and will be the last for awhile. Most were stocked with very average gals. Billboard had some good bodies and probably the best faces that I saw all night. But, lots of really poor quality nose jobs. After a couple of beers our little group of three (all 20 year plus vets of the scene) were discussing what these gals want price wise and what they are willing to provide. And frankly none of us see any value for money at all. Honestly, over 100 USD a piece for these gals? If they are good looking, have a ripping body, and provide an intense GFE or PSE depending on what the customer wants, they would be worth the 100 plus.

No offense to you personally SexInSti, but I just don't get it. One of the guys I was with still lives in the US and for 150 USD he can get a looker for an hour who really performs, has a good skill set, and takes her job seriously. When you add in the drinks at the bar and the ST hotel you are looking at close to 150, more if you are paying 1500 BF (which I might add is ridiculous).

I really do think that the punters are far less demanding these days. The gals know they can get away with poor to mediocre service and still get paid. Good on 'them. They are absolutely not to blame for the current "scene. " The guys are.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2034049]I was in some GoGos for the first time in ages the other night and will be the last for awhile. Most were stocked with very average gals. Billboard had some good bodies and probably the best faces that I saw all night. But, lots of really poor quality nose jobs. After a couple of beers our little group of three (all 20 year plus vets of the scene) were discussing what these gals want price wise and what they are willing to provide. And frankly none of us see any value for money at all. Honestly, over 100 USD a piece for these gals? If they are good looking, have a ripping body, and provide an intense GFE or PSE depending on what the customer wants, they would be worth the 100 plus.

No offense to you personally SexInSti, but I just don't get it. One of the guys I was with still lives in the US and for 150 USD he can get a looker for an hour who really performs, has a good skill set, and takes her job seriously. When you add in the drinks at the bar and the ST hotel you are looking at close to 150, more if you are paying 1500 BF (which I might add is ridiculous).

I really do think that the punters are far less demanding these days. The gals know they can get away with poor to mediocre service and still get paid. Good on 'them. They are absolutely not to blame for the current "scene. " The guys are.[/QUOTE]I totally agree that the guys are to blame. No doubt about it.

As far as sex in the USA, it's now close to the same price as in Thailand as far as a per encounter price. The difference being that if you get caught with a hooker in the USA, you get arrested, it goes on your permanent record, and you very likely lose your job.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2034091]I totally agree that the guys are to blame. No doubt about it.
[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think the guys who are not keen on the more modern Thai P4P scene and still rely on the sex complexes for finding dates, are definitely not in a buyers market. I stopped into CH around 8 months ago and I wasn't impressed at all with what I saw. I see the draw in that they are naked and all but I didn't really see anything that has ever prompted me to go back.

These days the only place I stop into on a semi-regular basis is Pink Panther in Patpong. It's on the circuit I take out of town guests on. PP actually has some really hot Coyotes (curvy but really fit workout bodies) who can dance but they are still short with the typical Issan look and attitude. They will go with customers but I was shocked when one of my buddies had to have this girl that he fell for and ended up paying her 5000ST plus 1500 BF. I understand the convenience of these places, especially for tourists, but I think it's gotten to the point where these venues prefer to be more like lounges and wanting to keep customers inside and drinking in order to pay for their astronomical rent. Something like a 1500 baht BF is seemingly meant to discourage customers but at the same time, if they can get someone to pay it then they make out either way.