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[QUOTE=Turgid;2890714]I think sex with FKK girls can be stressful. If I am paying 100/30 or 200/60 the girl must be enthusiastic during the session, she must be willing to Fkiss, do BBBJ, accept DATY and sex in many positions. If she is not enjoying the session and is pouty and a starfish it would be stressful for me.[/QUOTE]Now, in FKK land, most expensive don't mean best look and quality. My 3 real GFE woman types for maximum 150/60 are best I know in FKK land including Switzerland and Austria, so, why to pay more expensive for lower quality.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2894719]I was there since 2008 and think a lot of it is nostalgia. .... There was also the legendary Atlantis that closed before my time, perhaps closing around 2005-2006. When I first started, the senior mongers made it sound like the greatest gathering of Europe's best sex workers ever. I don't personally know and would have to assume that bit of that was enhanced by nostalgic, rose colored glasses.[/QUOTE]Nice summary. Yeah, there is a lot of nostalgia around. Totally agree. Gents get jaded after a while. It's normal. More so than lineups being worse IMHO. Service is a bit down, but not much. Being selective has always been a big part of the game (at least in Hessen). Prices have gone up of late, which is a concern of course. Some clubs are able to renew their line-ups post corona. But not all. Clubs change through the years. It's normal.

Atlantis closed in 2004. For those feeling nostalgic and in need of some light entertainment on this Sunday: Try this link [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1090-FKK-Atlantis[/URL].

I heard former Atlantis girl Angelika was still at Palace a couple of years ago (voted Atlantis BJ Queen back in the day). Maybe she still is.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2889739]It seems like someone trying to come up with something to talk about. The motivations of some of people on here must be truly bizarre or they are compensated.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of when this guy insisted on asking me which girls at Artemis were proposing to finger. I must have told him 10 times that I didn't go for it, but it was clearly his only kink. So I tried whispering the name of one girl who had proposed it to me once. Unfortunately these girls hear everything like hawks, so the girl heard me even if I tried to to say her name very quiet. After which this girl ghosted me ever since.

Lesson learned, what happens in the room, stays in the room. Even if you meet annoying guys who keep asking the same question over and over.

Rather than my usual weekly love in bed, for 150/60 or 60+ for my standard at my best quality, different FKK sport on this week end and I confirm still possible to get really pretty girls in Germany, I would go to at Sharks or Globe, for 50/30 with BBBJ which was even good, better than too shy kisses when she might have 15 rooms on her day. I also confirm Bulgarians are now not for my GFE type, so I didn't go with second and no need for more than 30 mn with first, but really pretty with beautiful teeth, no silicon, nor tattoes and piercing, good to fuck when she moved to face the mirror for doggy and Bulgarians are for RTC game, when much prettier than bad teeth. So busy, but not really knowing to put well a condom, compare to some who are obsessed holding with 2 hands. Still exist also around FRA and girls seem happy about this 50/30 business, some may make more more than most at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2894810]Reminds me of when this guy insisted on asking me which girls at Artemis were proposing to finger. I must have told him 10 times that I didn't go for it, but it was clearly his only kink. So I tried whispering the name of one girl who had proposed it to me once. Unfortunately these girls hear everything like hawks, so the girl heard me even if I tried to to say her name very quiet. After which this girl ghosted me ever since.

Lesson learned, what happens in the room, stays in the room. Even if you meet annoying guys who keep asking the same question over and over.[/QUOTE]You need to hide your mouth behind a washed hand while you talk. One Two fingers or a thumb in the brown bunker, that's what Pito like the most, at least that's what whole mondial was talking. But maybe we understood the name wrong, because of all the smoke and the silent music.

Under illegal investigation.

For fans, manga, lovely Mio. De ex Bruggen I got for 100/60 on Sunday she arrived at Bruggen, is at Globe. Also Aida ex 6 ens NL who put duck lips but one of the sexiest body at Globe. I didn t pay for her at 6 , because of her face, even before acid lips.

I have $80 and $100 in Sixt credit from before the pandemic that I had been planning to use to go to Bernd's. Obviously, that is not an option anymore. I usually just take the train to Oase or Sharks or Palace. Are there places that you recommend I should go since I have this credit?

I can also visit the clubs in the Netherlands or as far north as the UK and as far south as Switzerland.

Maybe Golden Gate in Grefrath? That's rather hard to reach by public transportation.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2907366]I have $80 and $100 in Sixt credit from before the pandemic that I had been planning to use to go to Bernd's. Obviously, that is not an option anymore. I usually just take the train to Oase or Sharks or Palace. Are there places that you recommend I should go since I have this credit?

I can also visit the clubs in the Netherlands or as far north as the UK and as far south as Switzerland.[/QUOTE]

It is that time of the year again. I'm taking the cock out of winter storage, testing it and getting it ready for the warm season. Oil, lubrication, polish, the works. For the coming weekend I may head to Frankfurt and check out the FKKs. As always, it is now a question of where to go for maximum enjoyment. From what I've gathered it seems as if Mainhattan has overtaken my old favorite Palace, Sharks is still going strong and Oase may still work, at least on warmer days. Is that an accurate assessment?

I will of course be providing reports of my findings if I visit any clubs. My preliminary weekend plan is Sharks + Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2907706]It is that time of the year again. I'm taking the cock out of winter storage, testing it and getting it ready for the warm season. Oil, lubrication, polish, the works. For the coming weekend I may head to Frankfurt and check out the FKKs. As always, it is now a question of where to go for maximum enjoyment. From what I've gathered it seems as if Mainhattan has overtaken my old favorite Palace, Sharks is still going strong and Oase may still work, at least on warmer days. Is that an accurate assessment?

I will of course be providing reports of my findings if I visit any clubs. My preliminary weekend plan is Sharks + Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]Make sure you do not come during orthodox eastern, which starts first weekend of may. Many girls will leave around April 20.

At the moment Sharks is full of beautiful girls and probably the best option.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2907845]Make sure you do not come during orthodox eastern, which starts first weekend of may. Many girls will leave around April 20.

At the moment Sharks is full of beautiful girls and probably the best option.[/QUOTE]Thanks Toto001, that's good to know! Looking more and more like Sharks is going to be my first stop. The weather forecast for Darmstadt says 23 deg see today Saturday and tomorrow Sunday 20 & overcast. Not sure if they have opened up the bbq station yet, but I guess I'll find out soon enough. Woke up with morning glory of high caliber, so this may be just the right day.

I've got four free days of time coming up and I'm planning to hop on a flight to Frankfurt. Coming from the states, East Coast to be specific. Since I only have four days I want to cram pack in as much wild fun as I can do. And I need your help. LOL I've been to Frankfurt once. I got off the plane, I rode the train to the main train station and walked to my hotel. From there, I walked to the red light district and I visited. Mainhatten (spelling?) three times and it was ok. I also visited an interesting club that was like in a house and it was a smaller FKK type set up but without really any amenities and you paid an entry fee and you got to fuck all you want. It was like buffet style, I think it was 80 E. I rode a taxi there and back and it was early in the day so there was only a few women there, but it wasn't bad. I got three rounds in. And one of the girls did an MFM. She was in the back room with a dude and she literally poked her head out and motion for me to come over. Next thing I know she's on her knees getting fucked and my dick is in her mouth. She was one of those real sluts. She wasn't that hot, maybe a six or so a bit chubby but not fat but it was still fun.

So my questions are this. This time I want to check out sharks. I'm assuming the most efficient way there is a taxi. From downtown Frankfurt, what am I looking at in cost? Also, I remember last time I had no cell phone service so I could only use Wi-Fi like from my hotel or if I was at a restaurant or something with Wi-Fi. How do you arrange a taxi or Uber back out when you have no cell phone service? If I go to sharks, should I plan to stay in a hotel there for the night? Are there any decent hotels within walking distance? And I keep reading reports about all these girls wanting 200 E now. When I was there, ten years ago I was paying about 50 to 60e per 30 minutes. I can't imagine paying triple that now. If I stick to the 100 E at a place like sharks am I still going to have a decent evening?

I'm looking for recommendations to more seedy, slutty type events. I like the women who actually get into what they do. They actually enjoy fucking! LOL I've had this scenario back home and in different places, but I found it to be pretty rare when you go the professional route. Long story short? I like sluts. I wouldn't mind going to maybe a gangbang, and orgy party, things like that. I'm only into women but I like that whole type of vibe. It's just on another level.

I stayed at the hotel dormero last year and really liked it.

[QUOTE=GettingTang;2909431]I've got four free days of time coming up and I'm planning to hop on a flight to Frankfurt. Coming from the states, East Coast to be specific. Since I only have four days I want to cram pack in as much wild fun as I can do. And I need your help. LOL I've been to Frankfurt once. I got off the plane, I rode the train to the main train station and walked to my hotel. From there, I walked to the red light district and I visited. Mainhatten (spelling?) three times and it was ok. I also visited an interesting club that was like in a house and it was a smaller FKK type set up but without really any amenities and you paid an entry fee and you got to fuck all you want. It was like buffet style, I think it was 80 E. I rode a taxi there and back and it was early in the day so there was only a few women there, but it wasn't bad. I got three rounds in. And one of the girls did an MFM. She was in the back room with a dude and she literally poked her head out and motion for me to come over. Next thing I know she's on her knees getting fucked and my dick is in her mouth. She was one of those real sluts. She wasn't that hot, maybe a six or so a bit chubby but not fat but it was still fun.

So my questions are this. This time I want to check out sharks. I'm assuming the most efficient way there is a taxi. From downtown Frankfurt, what am I looking at in cost? Also, I remember last time I had no cell phone service so I could only use Wi-Fi like from my hotel or if I was at a restaurant or something with Wi-Fi. How do you arrange a taxi or Uber back out when you have no cell phone service? If I go to sharks, should I plan to stay in a hotel there for the night? Are there any decent hotels within walking distance? And I keep reading reports about all these girls wanting 200 E now. When I was there, ten years ago I was paying about 50 to 60e per 30 minutes. I can't imagine paying triple that now. If I stick to the 100 E at a place like sharks am I still going to have a decent evening?

I'm looking for recommendations to more seedy, slutty type events. I like the women who actually get into what they do. They actually enjoy fucking! LOL I've had this scenario back home and in different places, but I found it to be pretty rare when you go the professional route. Long story short? I like sluts. I wouldn't mind going to maybe a gangbang, and orgy party, things like that. I'm only into women but I like that whole type of vibe. It's just on another level.[/QUOTE]Compare to US women, for 100/30 , if You are not a kisser like me which is now the most complicated with many Romanians, You should find at Sharks, entry 50 on Wednesday or Sunday, or Oase, entry 50 on Wednesday, or Mainhattan. Public transport to go to Sharks or Oase.

For fans, now little mum Lucifer. De works at Penelope on some week ends, most often with appointments.

When will most girls back back from Easter holidays? Wondering if Friday 10th is too early for a Sharks visit.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2909952]For fans, now little mum Lucifer. De works at Penelope on some week ends, most often with appointments.[/QUOTE]Hmm, She is 29 now? Or 30? Still looks the same as 8 years ago?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2912808]Hmm, She is 29 now? Or 30? Still looks the same as 8 years ago?[/QUOTE]A bit more than 30 and little mum, she looks more woman, but still prettier than Lea or Olga. Part timer at Pene.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2912932]A bit more than 30 and little mum, she looks more woman, but still prettier than Lea or Olga. Part timer at Pene.[/QUOTE]Is that a nice way of saying chubby? Well, she will always be cute, so it doesn't matter I guess. Olga has dark hair now. Blonde looked better for her I think. Off my list now.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2913092]Is that a nice way of saying chubby? Well, she will always be cute, so it doesn't matter I guess. Olga has dark hair now. Blonde looked better for her I think. Off my list now.[/QUOTE]She is not chubby at all, but firm shape.

For those who dont want to be fucked like tourist by Sharks little Romanians behaving like chicken robber, as I already often wrote, many better values in Germany which remain best value in FKK land. Of course, GG for my subjective tastes loving looks the closest to normal women, but also less upselling at Oase, also Atlanta for 50/30 where some German regulars now, Penelope where You can get real beauties for 50/30 and no upselling culture. Funny, nobody here never wrote about escort from Munchen Jasmin. De, or her friend Janina, or German snow white, I got so often at Sharks from end of 2022 till Summer 2023, when after our discovery, Jasmin did discount for me at 150/60 for so intense GFE and not even writings about my 2 new German targets, when 200/60 is more for Audi like my wonderful Venus8 than Dacias, when I can get German escorts for even less than 200/60, when I regret not to see anymore many impressive Romanian looks, except supermodel at Oase, or Amira despite her bad tattoo, but who improved so much since Samya, same like Italia from Firenzia, so sexy glamour for both at GG, compare to too expensive little Romanians at Sharks when this is a good club, but now bad value for quality for most, except very few. Real pity for Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2913290]She is not chubby at all, but firm shape.[/QUOTE]Potentially an upgrade then. Intriguing.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2914092]Potentially an upgrade then. Intriguing.[/QUOTE]As I wrote, now little mum, but still prettier than your Lea and Olga Wellcum and for 50/30 .

Would it be better to rename this forum section to just 'FKK Club', instead of 'Germany. FKK Clubs'?

FKK clubs in Austria, Switzerland and Netherlands would better fit in here than on their national sections. And the NL clubs already have their own threads here.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2914430]Would it be better to rename this forum section to just 'FKK Club', instead of 'Germany. FKK Clubs'?

FKK clubs in Austria, Switzerland and Netherlands would better fit in here than on their national sections. And the NL clubs already have their own threads here.[/QUOTE]I have to be in Munich 'area' for a few days and will be tethered there. So I'm thinking hit up Ingolstadt for a night and maybe go up to Harmony in Nuremberg.

I'll have been leaving Salzburg so I'm just looking for Munich and North; please. Anyone with any recent experiences (outside of Leierkasten).

Harmony gets an occasional review on the German boards. As does Hawaii. And now that summer is here and the outside is open Sunshine isn't repulsive. Just lame.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2914386]As I wrote, now little mum, but still prettier than your Lea and Olga Wellcum and for 50/30 .[/QUOTE]Seen today. Even for a giant like me, she is very short when not on heels, I would say < 1,55.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2914463]I have to be in Munich 'area' for a few days and will be tethered there. So I'm thinking hit up Ingolstadt for a night and maybe go up to Harmony in Nuremberg.[/QUOTE]Hi there, my friend. Where is this place Harmony you mention? Is it a FKK?

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2914706]Hi there, my friend. Where is this place Harmony you mention? Is it a FKK?[/QUOTE]FKK Harmony. Somewhat in the inner part of and. There's another I think Palmas that has gone way downhill.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2914623]Seen today. Even for a giant like me, she is very short when not on heels, I would say < 1,55.[/QUOTE]

Hey Sirioja,

Seen where? Is that at Saunaclub Penelope? And that being a Friday? Please confirm.

Also was she busy and booked solid or freed up most of the time?

I'll be in Penelope in early June. Maybe I'll get to see her again.

Thanks.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;2914771]Hey Sirioja,

Seen where? Is that at Saunaclub Penelope? And that being a Friday? Please confirm.

Also was she busy and booked solid or freed up most of the time?

I'll be in Penelope in early June. Maybe I'll get to see her again.

Thanks.

Howie.[/QUOTE]Yesterday, Friday 10 May, at Penelope. As I already wrote, she now part time there, for 50 per 30. I don t care about her business. Try on a Friday afternoon, when she doesn't stay too late.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2914758]FKK Harmony. Somewhat in the inner part of and.[/QUOTE]Do you mean FKK Heaven?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2914827]Yesterday, Friday 10 May, at Penelope. As I already wrote, she now part time there, for 50 per 30. I don t care about her business. Try on a Friday afternoon, when she doesn't stay too late.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. Good to hear that she is still active. I hope she is there in early June.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915119]Do you mean FKK Heaven?[/QUOTE]FKK Harmony is a beautiful club, above little river, in Seevetal, 30 kms south Hamburg. Also Atmos in Harbourg and Babylon in Hamburg.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2915327]FKK Harmony is a beautiful club, above little river, in Seevetal, 30 kms south Hamburg. Also Atmos in Harbourg and Babylon in Hamburg.[/QUOTE]I see. But read Tintin1's comment below, HR is referring to Harmony in Nuremberg, which makes me confused:

"I have to be in Munich 'area' for a few days and will be tethered there. So I'm thinking hit up Ingolstadt for a night and maybe go up to Harmony in Nuremberg".

Best FKKs for big tit lovers. If possible also provide the names of big tit models you know. You may whether the boobs are natural or fake.

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915739]Best FKKs for big tit lovers. If possible also provide the names of big tit models you know. You may whether the boobs are natural or fake.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Brenda at Sharks with huge naturals. Kira, also naturals, at GG.

Had the pleasure of visiting Sharks on Friday and Oase on Saturday and Sunday. I based the choice on reports on this forum, but would like to add my 5 c to the discussion. I totally get why Sharks is popular, it is huge, busy and has a lively party atmosphere. I arrived at 5 pm. Lots of excellent talent and food selection was good. I had a great time with a beautiful blonde Romanian lady to start 100/30 and a threesome with two perfect and young German girls 200/30. In my excitement, I couldn't remember their names. I spent time in the sauna, had a meal, relaxed and enjoyed the atmosphere. Downside was the amount of smoking, it irritated my eyes and throat and also the noise level. Generally speaking a great facility, but I would suggest it is more appropriate for the party scene lovers.

I had a rental car, so the next day I went to Oase around 1 pm. It is the complete opposite in it's atmosphere, more serene, quieter and I found it a fantastic place to relax and unwind. The layout, sauna, pool and quiet relaxation room were all fantastic and I enjoyed all of that. A half litre beer is only 5 euro, but food was disappointing, but adequate. Started with a couple of Romanian "sisters" Emma and Alena 200/30, next was Pamela, a dark skinned Romanian beauty with fake tits and injected lips. She was more pushy and got me up to 200/60 and although it was good, it was more mechanical and businesslike which was a turn off for me. After a rest, it was Natasha, a young Romanian blonde 100/30 and the session was excellent, she was natural and gave a good GFE. I Also had a massage, which was excellent for 30/30.

On Sunday I felt somewhat played out, but decided to return to Oase in the afternoon around 2 pm because it had been a better experience for me than Sharks. The place was very quiet because of the long weekend. Initially I ignored the girls, had lunch, took a nap at the pool, enjoyed the sauna, swam in the pool and had a massage again 30/30. Then Emma from the previous day noticed me and proposed a session with 69, DFK, BBJ, etc and I did for 100/30 she was extra hot and went all out, unreservedly. Great session! After another long break, I found a tall blonde German lady with short hair from Berlin, (Nadia I think?) I had noticed her the day before, but I kept missing her. She was a huge turn on for me and she got me quite aroused. We had a great time, also talked a lot and it turned into 100/45 which I felt was amazing and a good way to end my FKK club experience on this trip on a high note.

For a good overall relaxing experience and peaceful ambience with plenty of great talent, my vote goes to Oase over Sharks. Both have pros and cons, but hopefully this can steer someone else in the right direction. On my next visit, it will be Oase all the way.

[QUOTE=FantasyLane;2916881]Had the pleasure of visiting Sharks on Friday and Oase on Saturday and Sunday. I based the choice on reports on this forum, but would like to add my 5 c to the discussion. I totally get why Sharks is popular, it is huge, busy and has a lively party atmosphere. I arrived at 5 pm. Lots of excellent talent and food selection was good. I had a great time with a beautiful blonde Romanian lady to start 100/30 and a threesome with two perfect and young German girls 200/30. In my excitement, I couldn't remember their names. I spent time in the sauna, had a meal, relaxed and enjoyed the atmosphere. Downside was the amount of smoking, it irritated my eyes and throat and also the noise level. Generally speaking a great facility, but I would suggest it is more appropriate for the party scene lovers.

I had a rental car, so the next day I went to Oase around 1 pm. It is the complete opposite in it's atmosphere, more serene, quieter and I found it a fantastic place to relax and unwind. The layout, sauna, pool and quiet relaxation room were all fantastic and I enjoyed all of that. A half litre beer is only 5 euro, but food was disappointing, but adequate. Started with a couple of Romanian "sisters" Emma and Alena 200/30, next was Pamela, a dark skinned Romanian beauty with fake tits and injected lips. She was more pushy and got me up to 200/60 and although it was good, it was more mechanical and businesslike which was a turn off for me. After a rest, it was Natasha, a young Romanian blonde 100/30 and the session was excellent, she was natural and gave a good GFE. I Also had a massage, which was excellent for 30/30.

On Sunday I felt somewhat played out, but decided to return to Oase in the afternoon around 2 pm because it had been a better experience for me than Sharks. The place was very quiet because of the long weekend. Initially I ignored the girls, had lunch, took a nap at the pool, enjoyed the sauna, swam in the pool and had a massage again 30/30. Then Emma from the previous day noticed me and proposed a session with 69, DFK, BBJ, etc and I did for 100/30 she was extra hot and went all out, unreservedly. Great session! After another long break, I found a tall blonde German lady with short hair from Berlin, (Nadia I think?) I had noticed her the day before, but I kept missing her. She was a huge turn on for me and she got me quite aroused. We had a great time, also talked a lot and it turned into 100/45 which I felt was amazing and a good way to end my FKK club experience on this trip on a high note.

For a good overall relaxing experience and peaceful ambience with plenty of great talent, my vote goes to Oase over Sharks. Both have pros and cons, but hopefully this can steer someone else in the right direction. On my next visit, it will be Oase all the way.[/QUOTE]Exceptionally useful post. I haven't been to Oase recently but completely agree about Sharks. Artemis in Berlin is 10 times worse for smoking!

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2915739]Best FKKs for big tit lovers. If possible also provide the names of big tit models you know. You may whether the boobs are natural or fake.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]Rania (African girl at Oase), 32 E. They look and feel natural, but she told me she had a slight lift or enhancement.

She also has some very tasteful tattoo work from her shoulders into her cleavage.

The perfect track for some light kissing.

When planning an FKK vacations in Frankfurt area, (whole two weeks this time, beginning of July) I always try to plan my accommodations in advance:

Always trying to find the sweet spot of hotels that are on one hand very accessible to public transport such as S-bahn.

On the other, are in an area with free parking and light traffic, for my rental car.

Mostly this sweet spot would be find in city outskirts, where is also easier to find good vaule hotels for lesser costs (same vale in city center would likely to cost some more in comparison).

And so some days I can drive to some clubs far away, while on the other days I could take the S-bahn for some city center hikes.

One such hotel I frequent is Hotel Cult in Sachsenhausen, which meets all aspects I mentioned here.

So what about you guys? Do my considerations make sense to you? And if so, do you have ideas for such hotels to share here?

(I believe I did post a similar question here a few years ago, I hope is not against the rules to catch up).

Instead of investigate posts of long year members, the mods should ask themselves why the number of views isn't rising and is Donald Trump human?

Heard it's closing and was super bummed out about that as I loved the small intimate feel of the club, girls weren't pushy at all, girl / guy ratio was great and it just had a great vibe in general. Last winter I went there, Artemis, Sharks and OASE on my trip and while the others were good, Mystic just had a different feeling and I liked it a lot.

Any other similar clubs?

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2933924]Heard it's closing and was super bummed out about that as I loved the small intimate feel of the club, girls weren't pushy at all, girl / guy ratio was great and it just had a great vibe in general. Last winter I went there, Artemis, Sharks and OASE on my trip and while the others were good, Mystic just had a different feeling and I liked it a lot.

Any other similar clubs?[/QUOTE]Are you really sure about closing? You should call. Also Atlantis close to border and Kitzbuel, but I was not impressed by looks, even I liked elegant Megan.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2933953]Are you really sure about closing? You should call. Also Atlantis close to border and Kitzbuel, but I was not impressed by looks, even I liked elegant Megan.[/QUOTE]They are having a closing party tomorrow. Talked to a girl that I met there in Jan. And she said they are closing and she went to Wellcum.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2934006]They are having a closing party tomorrow. Talked to a girl that I met there in Jan. And she said they are closing and she went to Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Why club close? Lack of business? When just on border, in forest, close to cheap gas station less expensive than in Germany and when Bavaria is poor for FKK.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2934067]Why club close? Lack of business? When just on border, in forest, close to cheap gas station less expensive than in Germany and when Bavaria is poor for FKK.[/QUOTE]The girl I know that was there said they are closing because they are having problem with finances. It doesn't surprise me as the club was always very slow when I was there. Good for me and other guys but bad for business. I am not sure why it is not more busy. I also don't understand how Berlin has only 1 FKK and western Germany has many.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2934130]The girl I know that was there said they are closing because they are having problem with finances. It doesn't surprise me as the club was always very slow when I was there. Good for me and other guys but bad for business. I am not sure why it is not more busy. I also don't understand how Berlin has only 1 FKK and western Germany has many.[/QUOTE]Finances? In German "Finanz" often has to do with taxes ("Finanzamt" = IRS). Anyway, very bad news if even a good club needs to close.

[QUOTE=XXL;2934164]Finances? In German "Finanz" often has to do with taxes ("Finanzamt" = IRS). Anyway, very bad news if even a good club needs to close.[/QUOTE]Girl is Romanian. Not sure the situation other than they are closing.

place was a gem too.

Greetings. I'll be in Munich at the last day of the Oktoberfest. It was a Sunday. I am planning a short trip to a FKK club. Potential options are Sunshine, Colosseum and Hawaii. I have never been in either of them but was in Artemis, Samya and Shark before. Young / slim is not necessarily my thing. I'm kinda an ass guy and very into tall busty pawgs LOL. Which one of the three would you recommend and which one is most likely to have German girls in a Sunday evening?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2939934]Greetings. I'll be in Munich at the last day of the Oktoberfest. It was a Sunday. I am planning a short trip to a FKK club. Potential options are Sunshine, Colosseum and Hawaii. I have never been in either of them but was in Artemis, Samya and Shark before. Young / slim is not necessarily my thing. I'm kinda an ass guy and very into tall busty pawgs LOL. Which one of the three would you recommend and which one is most likely to have German girls in a Sunday evening?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bavaria is low level for FKK in Germany. Maybe try a German escort, not more expensive than little Romanians.

Do the fkks still offer free entry on birthday's?

Any recommendations?

NRW area or Hessen.

Thanks.

Is this still happening?

Any recommendations.

NRW.

Hesse.

You get free entry at Magnum Sauna Club, Erkrath, Dusseldorf on your birthday m.

[QUOTE=Piggsy;2942970]Is this still happening?

Any recommendations.

NRW.

Hesse.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Piggsy;2942970]Is this still happening?

Any recommendations.

NRW.

Hesse.[/QUOTE]Yes, still exist in some clubs, look on websites. Minus 20 at Sharks. You have to give your ID to prove.

[QUOTE=Piggsy;2942970]Is this still happening?

Any recommendations.

NRW.

Hesse.[/QUOTE]Can't tell you if it's still 100% accurate but here's list from 2018. Replace GT and Acapulco with Golden Gate and Prime.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2136316]Updated List of Free entry birthday.

[b] Free entry the day before and day of: [/b]

Samya.

Babylon.

[b]Free on the day of your bday.[/b]

Goldentime.

Living Room.

Mainhattan.

World.

Sixsens.

Atmos.

Oceans.

[b] Get a free entry voucher for the next visit: [/b]

Acapulco.

[b] Discounted: [/b]

Hawaii (50%)

[b] Mix feedback: [/b]

Sharks? I hear discounted entry, free entry, and nothing at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2943086]You get free entry at Magnum Sauna Club, Erkrath, Dusseldorf on your birthday m.[/QUOTE]I think also at GG and maybe still at Samya. Used to at Velbert? Gold and Penelope.

Very laid back and a lot of areas to hang out. Not a ton of girls (20 or so) but not many guys at all. Girls weren't pushy at all (despite lack of guys). I liked it a lot as it was more of an intimate and relaxing feel. Sharks and OASE were great but in a different way. Not as relaxed feeling and more of a club feel. Artemis in Berlin was ok but a ton of guys so girls weren't pushy at all in fact it was the opposite I strolled the bar area and approached them.

Since mystic is closed now I am looking for something similar to it in Germany, Austria or Switzerland. A lot of decent looking women in a smaller, more intimate club with not a lot of guys.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2945182]Very laid back and a lot of areas to hang out. Not a ton of girls (20 or so) but not many guys at all. Girls weren't pushy at all (despite lack of guys). I liked it a lot as it was more of an intimate and relaxing feel. Sharks and OASE were great but in a different way. Not as relaxed feeling and more of a club feel. Artemis in Berlin was ok but a ton of guys so girls weren't pushy at all in fact it was the opposite I strolled the bar area and approached them.

Since mystic is closed now I am looking for something similar to it in Germany, Austria or Switzerland. A lot of decent looking women in a smaller, more intimate club with not a lot of guys.[/QUOTE]Maybe Mainhattan Frankfurt, or sauna club Venus NRW on NL border, or Andiamo Villach, or History. Ch or Swiss Dietikon west Zurich, which are not fuck factories like Sharks or Wellcum.

[QUOTE=Nr71;2948514]Next week will be one of my rare occasions, and I hope you can give me some good advice. I have visited Sharks many times over the last ten to fifteen years and also have a few visits to Artemis and Palace. This time I was wondering if I should try Sharks, World and Oase. I'm a big Sharks fan, but sometimes I think the ladies are a little too young for my taste. Slightly more mature ladies, from 30's and upwards, are my favourites. I have the opportunity to visit the monger market Tuesday afternoon to Thursday evening. I have access to a rental car, and am not afraid to drive a bit. What would you prioritize?[/QUOTE]Let's just assume for a second that you at this time do not have a wish to explore NRW, Switzerland or outer space but want to explore new clubs in Hessen only with main focus on Sharks, Oase and World.

This is how I would do it:

- Tuesday: Horrible day to visit, yes. Only Sharks would have a decent lineup.

- Wednesday: Take advantage of lower entry fees at Oase (50 E). It has been success: More men means more girls show up. But never too crowded. A good day at Oase by Oase standards. Sharks do also have reduced entry fees, but IMHO their success is killing the ambience a bit on Wednesdays (too crowded and poorer F / M ratios, in particular in the evening).

- Thursday: Assuming you have visited both Oase and Sharks by now you can make your own opinion. If Oase was a letdown, then return to Sharks (World normally has a weaker lineup than Oase). If Oase was fun, you should try World too (less girls but a good club to relax).

Oase and World have at times problems with recruiting younger girls, so if you are into age group 30+ then have no worries. Their biggest pros are that they are more relaxing clubs (compared to Sharks). If you want to party and need constant visual stimulation, World and Oase will be too boring. Oase and World work best in the evening (leaving before 7 pm would be a mistake).

All three clubs have decent brunch (New: love the self service orange juice at Oase). Sharks got the best buffet in the evening. Oase has freshly made pizzas from around 5:30- 6 pm. All clubs try to save costs on food which is an annoyance.

Have fun and report!

[QUOTE=Shark16;2948744]Let's just assume for a second that you at this time do not have a wish to explore NRW, Switzerland or outer space but want to explore new clubs in Hessen only with main focus on Sharks, Oase and World.

This is how I would do it:

- Tuesday: Horrible day to visit, yes. Only Sharks would have a decent lineup.

- Wednesday: Take advantage of lower entry fees at Oase (50 E). It has been success: More men means more girls show up. But never too crowded. A good day at Oase by Oase standards. Sharks do also have reduced entry fees, but IMHO their success is killing the ambience a bit on Wednesdays (too crowded and poorer F / M ratios, in particular in the evening).

- Thursday: Assuming you have visited both Oase and Sharks by now you can make your own opinion. If Oase was a letdown, then return to Sharks (World normally has a weaker lineup than Oase). If Oase was fun, you should try World too (less girls but a good club to relax).

Oase and World have at times problems with recruiting younger girls, so if you are into age group 30+ then have no worries. Their biggest pros are that they are more relaxing clubs (compared to Sharks). If you want to party and need constant visual stimulation, World and Oase will be too boring. Oase and World work best in the evening (leaving before 7 pm would be a mistake).

All three clubs have decent brunch (New: love the self service orange juice at Oase). Sharks got the best buffet in the evening. Oase has freshly made pizzas from around 5:30- 6 pm. All clubs try to save costs on food which is an annoyance.

Have fun and report![/QUOTE]Free foods at World now? When many early 20 yo girls at Oase and some prettier than at Sharks and probably than at World which is now down under.

Not FKK but I wonder what rates the girls charge at the Laufhaus next to the old Mystic or Laufhauses in general?

You are out of context again, but who cares.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2948896]When MANY early 20 yo girls at Oase[/QUOTE]Interesting. How many? Can you please specify by naming them? Do they perform well? When was the last time you saw them?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2948896]and some prettier than at Sharks[/QUOTE]Again, how many and who early 20's girl at Oase are prettier than a top 10 girl at Sharks? Names, please.

I can name one: Lina. I have not seen Cleo in ages. Kelly moved back to Sharks. Nadia is not an early 20's girl any longer. Perhaps Isabella? Please help a gent with bad eyesight.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2948744]Let's just assume for a second that you at this time do not have a wish to explore NRW, Switzerland or outer space but want to explore new clubs in Hessen only with main focus on Sharks, Oase and World.
[/QUOTE]I second this assessment with the exception of ever really ever recommending Oase these days in general. But for the OP, I do agree that the proportion of quality "older" women is better at Oase and you are more likely to find teen types at Sharks. That has been the case for at least 7-8 years. Over the years, there seems to always be at least one quality service German in her late 20's or 30's at Oase. Generally they are constantly booked by a middle age to older German who I suspect go there for her and seem to have made a prebooked appointment as these ladies seem to be booked throughout the day and then you'll see them free up in the late evening where I often see them come out to the bar to catch a final client or perhaps a man who approached her earlier when she was busy.

I certainly did not notice any quality girl in her early 20's at Oase on recent visits. Nadia is the only one who fits top tier status and can pass for early 20's. She is at best 23 years old if she was 18 when I first met her in 2019. But I think she is more like 25 or 26.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2949095]Not FKK but I wonder what rates the girls charge at the Laufhaus next to the old Mystic or Laufhauses in general?[/QUOTE]The range is quite wide but universally less than at Hessen Saunaclubs.

Time is also not as standardized. 30 euro in Cologne back in 2017 was the cheapest I paid and it was quite basic although surprisingly, DATY was allowed. We didn't agree on time but by 15 minutes she said I needed to cum. So all in all, it was 30 e for 20 minutes which was the same rate as Mondial at the time. Have only done one girl at the Frankfurt buildings and it was 60 euro for a girl that would have been top tier at Sharks in 2019. I had a good session for over 30 minutes. No DFK but she performed well otherwise.

Not sure what average rate is post pandemic but I do recall one guy on a forum recently saying he got a session for 50 e for a girl good enough to work at Sharks. The impression however was that it was a good deal so average quote is likely higher.

I don't go often but I think those places are underrated if you're willing to endure the smell of urine and wade through a lot of unattractive girls in a creepy atmosphere. These girls are not fucked so much as an flk girl and are more relaxed as they're just laying around in bed all day playing on their phones.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2949184]You are out of context again, but who cares.

Interesting. How many? Can you please specify by naming them? Do they perform well? When was the last time you saw them?

Again, how many and who early 20's girl at Oase are prettier than a top 10 girl at Sharks? Names, please.

I can name one: Lina. I have not seen Cleo in ages. Kelly moved back to Sharks. Nadia is not an early 20's girl any longer. Perhaps Isabella? Please help a gent with bad eyesight.[/QUOTE]Nadia is not more than 25 . Bianca. Evolette would be one of most attractive at Sharks. When I m not interested, I don t ask girls name, but I would be interested about your 10 attractive at Sharks, when so average for looks for me.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2949095]Not FKK but I wonder what rates the girls charge at the Laufhaus next to the old Mystic or Laufhauses in general?[/QUOTE]Additionally, more national diversity than at clubs.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2948744]
Have fun and report![/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the tips which turned out to be very good!

Reports will come in respective threads!

Not much reports on AO Clubs these days. Never being to one. Wish to visit one in NRW area. Any suggestion will highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2950486]Not much reports on AO Clubs these days. Never being to one. Wish to visit one in NRW area. Any suggestion will highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]A fresh exotic German with pretty face, quite rare among bad teeth Romanians, Bulgarians and Hungarians, prettier face than most at Sharks and even Globe, with almost no make up. Luder B04 seem on higher level than other RTC, after superstar Ami with so many guys who waited for her for hours. I don t think many girls at Sharks or Globe had guys waiting for so long.

[QUOTE=Nr71;2952149]Following a tip from Shark16, I chose FKK Sharks on my first day since it was a Tuesday. I expected a rather weak lineup when I arrived at about 4 pm, but was pleasantly surprised. It is now about two years since my last visit, and there were very few changes to see. The atmosphere was just like it usually is, but there were a lot of new girls. I didn't recognize more than a very few, which I think was a bit surprising.

I like slightly more mature ladies, and I think most of the Sharks are in the youngest team for my taste. But they are really great to look at, I could count at least five very pretty girls. After observing the market for a while my choice fell on Monica, 29 who claimed she was Spanish. Maybe that's correct, I don't really care where the girls are from as long as they offer what I want. Monica was good in the room, but seemed a bit unhappy and not so cheerful, it was a bit silly. She looks good with glasses and gave me what I asked for. Decent price for the event, unfortunately I don't remember the sum.

I like the sauna, and relax well there. I think the food was better than last time, but I'm not there primarily to eat food.

As an FKK tourist, I have been to Sharks 15-20 times in the last ten to fifteen years. The experience has been pretty much the same every time, I'm pretty happy every time I leave the place, but never have the big "wow" feeling.

Tips in this forum made me go to Oase the next day, it turned out to be a better place for me. I will tell about that in the Oase thread. Although Sharks has ended up being "okay" every time, I think I will wait quite a while before visiting again. I should try a few more places, and I'm looking forward to that. Finally, I must mention that I actually saw "legendary" Sylwana, she must be at least 70 years old now? She doesn't appeal to me, and I don't think she looked good at all. It's surprising that she's still there, I guess it means that someone is actually buying her services, I think that's strange.[/QUOTE]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that São Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. FKK remains an experience. But it's third on my list now after São Paulo and Bangkok. Others may have different taste. But if you find urself finding FKK a bit tired you are not alone and must go to São Paulo and Scandallo in particular. More 7+ girls than any place on planet earth (assuming you like Latinas) and top notch kissing and BBBJ. Not at all transactional like FKK. The girls really enjoy what they do or make you beleive they do!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2952155]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that So Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. FKK remains an experience. But it's third on my list now after So Paulo and Bangkok. Others may have different taste. But if you find urself finding FKK a bit tired you are not alone and must go to So Paulo and Scandallo in particular. More 7+ girls than any place on planet earth (assuming you like Latinas) and top notch kissing and BBBJ. Not at all transactional like FKK. The girls really enjoy what they do or make you beleive they do![/QUOTE]I keep FKKs above Bangkok just because I'm not much into Asian girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2952155]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that So Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. FKK remains an experience. But it's third on my list now after So Paulo and Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information.

Yes, I have the same feeling that FKK might not be the best option anymore, especially if there are alternatives available. After more than a decade of visiting FKK clubs, I'm feeling bored and want to try something new. Coincidentally, there's an opportunity that just came up recently. My company is temporarily relocating me to Bengaluru for a couple of years, and I will be starting work there soon. Bangalore is far from Frankfurt but closer to Dubai and Bangkok. So, these two cities will become my new "FKK" destinations. And seeking sugar babies might be an additional alternative approach.

I already said farewell to favorite girls at Sharks during my visit a few weeks ago. I told girls that I would probably see them in a year or two. None of them know where Bengaluru is. One girl thought it was "Honolulu". LOL.

I hope that when I return, maybe in two years, the girlsAriana, Celine, Rachel, Stacy, Betty, Lola, Florina, Catelea, Kitty, and otherswill still be as beautiful and attractive as ever.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2952155]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that So Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. FKK remains an experience. But it's third on my list now after So Paulo and Bangkok. Others may have different taste. But if you find urself finding FKK a bit tired you are not alone and must go to So Paulo and Scandallo in particular. More 7+ girls than any place on planet earth (assuming you like Latinas) and top notch kissing and BBBJ. Not at all transactional like FKK. The girls really enjoy what they do or make you beleive they do![/QUOTE]For value for money, LT for the night for 100€ at Pattaya. No extra for BBBJ and FK there.

What clubs all have the best mirrors in the rooms? I absolutely loved the mirrors at OASE and lighting as I am a very visual person. Nothing beats being able to see every angle possible being surrounded by mirrors. Artemis was decent too. Sharks not bad but room was a little dark so still a great view. Mystic now is closed but that was my only complaint with that place dark rooms and just 1 mirror at the headboard. But for me lighting is very important I don't like to fuck in a dark room when with a beautiful woman! Haha.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2952155]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that So Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. FKK remains an experience. But it's third on my list now after So Paulo and Bangkok. Others may have different taste. But if you find urself finding FKK a bit tired you are not alone and must go to So Paulo and Scandallo in particular. More 7+ girls than any place on planet earth (assuming you like Latinas) and top notch kissing and BBBJ. Not at all transactional like FKK. The girls really enjoy what they do or make you beleive they do![/QUOTE]I have never been to Sao Paulo but have been to Rio. Rio and Thailand definitely have Germany beat for things to do and beaches.

The distance is the issue for me for Thailand. I plan to go there again when I have less responsibilities. I want to just relax for a long time there. If I went to Sao Paulo it would only be because I have never been there.

Germany is kinda relaxing for me. I didn't find the Termas in Rio all that relaxing compared to FKK clubs. Maybe Scandallo is different but I kinda doubt it. Germany has a high number of venues and is a 1st world country. Brazil is ok but it is not a Germany.

I actually find Filipinas more attractive than Thai ladies in general but the Philippines is definitely taking it down a notch. But some of those exotic locations in the Philippines look amazing.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2952177]I keep FKKs above Bangkok just because I'm not much into Asian girls.[/QUOTE]This is a difficult choice for me. The quality of girls is better at FKKs but the service is better in Bangkok. What tips the scale in favor of Bangkok for me is GFE.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2952331]This is a difficult choice for me. The quality of girls is better at FKKs but the service is better in Bangkok. What tips the scale in favor of Bangkok for me is GFE.[/QUOTE]Very interesting discussion!

I have had the opportunity to leave for Germany many times a year without be missing either at work nor at home. This has been the main reason I have chosen FKK's, besides that Germany is pretty close to my country. Going to Asia or South America without being missed at home / work is impossible to me.

But I would like to read more comparisons and reason for choosing this or that.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2952181]Thanks for the information.

Yes, I have the same feeling that FKK might not be the best option anymore, especially if there are alternatives available. After more than a decade of visiting FKK clubs, I'm feeling bored and want to try something new. Coincidentally, there's an opportunity that just came up recently. My company is temporarily relocating me to Bengaluru for a couple of years, and I will be starting work there soon. Bangalore is far from Frankfurt but closer to Dubai and Bangkok. So, these two cities will become my new "FKK" destinations. And seeking sugar babies might be an additional alternative approach.

I already said farewell to favorite girls at Sharks during my visit a few weeks ago. I told girls that I would probably see them in a year or two. None of them know where Bengaluru is. One girl thought it was "Honolulu". LOL..[/QUOTE]Sure you will enjoy far more Dubai and Bangkok. The FKK business in Germany is over. Since pimps have insisted on doubling the prices, given the service level, the ratio satisfaction / price does make it anymore a valid reason to visit the clubs. FKK remain at best a third or fourth option for emergencies.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2952310]What clubs all have the best mirrors in the rooms? I absolutely loved the mirrors at OASE and lighting as I am a very visual person. Nothing beats being able to see every angle possible being surrounded by mirrors. Artemis was decent too. Sharks not bad but room was a little dark so still a great view. Mystic now is closed but that was my only complaint with that place dark rooms and just 1 mirror at the headboard. But for me lighting is very important I don't like to fuck in a dark room when with a beautiful woman! Haha.[/QUOTE]Haha, my friend, I too like seeing entire woman's body during sex, her facial expression, the movement of legs, feet, hands, ass, stomach and everything else she has to offer. Good mirrors help putting it all together. Here is a brief insider's view of Samya rooms. I appreciate everyone's corrections and comments.

Second floor (Europeans say first floor), on the right-hand side of the staircase, large common area, followed by the corridor to the terrace and outdoor sauna:

Room 1 - spacious room with a large round bed in the middle. Decorated by an ugly red / black / white geisha face wall painting. A large window opens for fresh air and cigarette break. Wall-wide floor-to-ceiling mirror on opposite side of the painting. Big flat screen TV. The round bed cover comes off often during sex causing unwanted side effects and disruptions. For some reason in many Samya rooms the bed pillows were missing and nowadays deliberately removed by mgmt. The girls like this room. I don't care, I would say fine for a basic 30-minute suck and fuck.

Room 3 - a grand room with jacuzzi tub and a large mirror right by the tub, followed by the bed with a shoulder-high narrow mirror strip above the bed. Who invented such mirror strips? Useless crap if you ask me. Jacuzzi filled with hot water sets you back 50 euro. Officially, no sex in jacuzzi. The girls are firmly instructed by management to avoid sex in water. I don't care. I like neither sex in water, nor rooms filled with steamy humid air. Of course the girls love jacuzzis, especially late at night when they care less about the hair and makeup. But sorry, not my thing for a satisfying sex act. 2 windows for fresh air. See picture attached.

Room 2 - Another jacuzzi room, have the size of the room 2 and less fancy with a mirror but not at optimal height as you can see on the picture attached. One window.

Room 4 - at the end of the corridor on the right side of the terrace door, a nice big irregularly shaped room with huge floor-to-ceiling mirrors along the two of the walls. A window facing the terrace. A really good room, highly recommended. Perfect group fuck space for MMF, MMFF, and so on.

Room 5 - similar to room 4 with huge mirror floor to ceiling. One window. A really good room, same qualities as room 4.

Room 6 - a nice big room with a big side mirror and a smaller mirror on the other side of the bed. Very doable room, but no window.

Rooms 7 and 8 - a couple of floor-to-ceiling bed side mirrors, but rather compact mirror widths, perhaps a meter-wide or so. These rooms are quite all right. The windows open for fresh air and smoke. Flat screen TVs.

Room 9 - large floor-to-ceiling mirror by the side of the bed. The size similar to room 8. Window. Again a good room.

Note: rooms 6, 7, 8 and 9 are in the small hallway on the right hand side off the common area upstairs.

Second floor, the small corridor on the left-hand side of the staircase:

Room 12 - first door on the right: a floor-to-ceiling bed-side mirror, ok room. Window.

Room 10 - at the end of the corridor on the left. Floor-to-ceiling bed-side mirror, ok room. Window.

Room 11 - first door on the left: another disappointing narrow mirror strip a couple of feet above the bed. Not recommended.

Ground floor rooms in the corridor behind the reception:

Rooms 20,21, 22, thru 25 - all later added rooms. Smaller rooms, all same shape and size. Each room has a window and some have a compact flat screen TV. Equipped with a large floor-to-ceiling wall-size mirror directly by the bed side (no gap between the bed and the mirror). Perfect to start in doggy and finish in mish having girl's head against the mirror, you facing the mirror. Beautiful view, ideal concept, thanks Samya!

Ground floor rooms across from reception. Rooms off the hallway connecting reception with the restaurant:

Rooms 30,31, 32, thru 36 - also recently added rooms. Unfortunately, no fresh air, only the hallway-facing windows. It can get rather hot and stuffy in there my friends! All mirrors are poorly designed, shoulder-high narrow mirror strips 2 feet above the bed. Ok for a quick 30-minute room, if you like fantasizing about sex in rail road car compartment. Even a sliding door is provided!

Since about the end of November 2019, no TV porn in rooms. My girls and I have asked multiple staff to help with TVs but none worked, a waste of time. Nobody seems to have a clue. If your room appears dark, use the dimmer knob to adjust the light. Same goes for the music levels in rooms; the second knob controls the wall speaker volume. Last but not least: on a busy night when rooms are busy, the girls propose public suck and fuck on sofas in kino. Shall we say not a bad idea? You can join, or watch, or move to a room when it becomes available. Good possibilities.

Last but not least: a secret room! Room 13 on the right hand side of kino. I've never been there. Mysterious room 13.

Rooms 1, 2, 3:

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2952358]Haha, my friend, I too like seeing entire woman's body during sex, her facial expression, the movement of legs, feet, hands, ass, stomach and everything else she has to offer. Good mirrors help putting it all together. Here is a brief insider's view of Samya rooms. I appreciate everyone's corrections and comments.

Second floor (Europeans say first floor), on the right-hand side of the staircase, large common area, followed by the corridor to the terrace and outdoor sauna:

Room 1 - spacious room with a large round bed in the middle. Decorated by an ugly red / black / white geisha face wall painting. A large window opens for fresh air and cigarette break. Wall-wide floor-to-ceiling mirror on opposite side of the painting. Big flat screen TV. The round bed cover comes off often during sex causing unwanted side effects and disruptions. For some reason in many Samya rooms the bed pillows were missing and nowadays deliberately removed by mgmt. The girls like this room. I don't care, I would say fine for a basic 30-minute suck and fuck.

Room 3 - a grand room with jacuzzi tub and a large mirror right by the tub, followed by the bed with a shoulder-high narrow mirror strip above the bed. Who invented such mirror strips? Useless crap if you ask me. Jacuzzi filled with hot water sets you back 50 euro. Officially, no sex in jacuzzi. The girls are firmly instructed by management to avoid sex in water. I don't care. I like neither sex in water, nor rooms filled with steamy humid air. Of course the girls love jacuzzis, especially late at night when they care less about the hair and makeup. But sorry, not my thing for a satisfying sex act. 2 windows for fresh air. See picture attached.

Room 2 - Another jacuzzi room, have the size of the room 2 and less fancy with a mirror but not at optimal height as you can see on the picture attached. One window.

Room 4 - at the end of the corridor on the right side of the terrace door, a nice big irregularly shaped room with huge floor-to-ceiling mirrors along the two of the walls. A window facing the terrace. A really good room, highly recommended. Perfect group fuck space for MMF, MMFF, and so on.

Room 5 - similar to room 4 with huge mirror floor to ceiling. One window. A really good room, same qualities as room 4.

Room 6 - a nice big room with a big side mirror and a smaller mirror on the other side of the bed. Very doable room, but no window.

Rooms 7 and 8 - a couple of floor-to-ceiling bed side mirrors, but rather compact mirror widths, perhaps a meter-wide or so. These rooms are quite all right. The windows open for fresh air and smoke. Flat screen TVs.

Room 9 - large floor-to-ceiling mirror by the side of the bed. The size similar to room 8. Window. Again a good room.

Note: rooms 6, 7, 8 and 9 are in the small hallway on the right hand side off the common area upstairs.

Second floor, the small corridor on the left-hand side of the staircase:

Room 12 - first door on the right: a floor-to-ceiling bed-side mirror, ok room. Window.

Room 10 - at the end of the corridor on the left. Floor-to-ceiling bed-side mirror, ok room. Window.

Room 11 - first door on the left: another disappointing narrow mirror strip a couple of feet above the bed. Not recommended.

Ground floor rooms in the corridor behind the reception:

Rooms 20,21, 22, thru 25 - all later added rooms. Smaller rooms, all same shape and size. Each room has a window and some have a compact flat screen TV. Equipped with a large floor-to-ceiling wall-size mirror directly by the bed side (no gap between the bed and the mirror). Perfect to start in doggy and finish in mish having girl's head against the mirror, you facing the mirror. Beautiful view, ideal concept, thanks Samya!

Ground floor rooms across from reception. Rooms off the hallway connecting reception with the restaurant:

Rooms 30,31, 32, thru 36 - also recently added rooms. Unfortunately, no fresh air, only the hallway-facing windows. It can get rather hot and stuffy in there my friends! All mirrors are poorly designed, shoulder-high narrow mirror strips 2 feet above the bed. Ok for a quick 30-minute room, if you like fantasizing about sex in rail road car compartment. Even a sliding door is provided!

Since about the end of November 2019, no TV porn in rooms. My girls and I have asked multiple staff to help with TVs but none worked, a waste of time. Nobody seems to have a clue. If your room appears dark, use the dimmer knob to adjust the light. Same goes for the music levels in rooms; the second knob controls the wall speaker volume. Last but not least: on a busy night when rooms are busy, the girls propose public suck and fuck on sofas in kino. Shall we say not a bad idea? You can join, or watch, or move to a room when it becomes available. Good possibilities.

Last but not least: a secret room! Room 13 on the right hand side of kino. I've never been there. Mysterious room 13.

Rooms 1, 2, 3:[/QUOTE]Wow what a writeup! Thanks for all of the details!

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2952439]Wow what a writeup! Thanks for all of the details![/QUOTE]My pleasure. Here is a synopsis of room 10. As you enter, the big mirror is on the left wall:

[QUOTE=TheCane;2952177]I keep FKKs above Bangkok just because I'm not much into Asian girls.[/QUOTE]FKKs mostly have Romanians, at least that's the case at Sharks. I'm tired of Romanians, but more importantly I'm tired of their harassment. I can't even sit down for 1 second without an ugly desperate one asking me to go to the room with her and it ruins my entire FKK experience. The only time I don't get bothered is when I go to the courtyard.

For me its simple:
Dubai.
Pattaya.
FKK.

But I still need to try Sao Paulo (Scandello), Rio, and Colombia)
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2952356]Sure you will enjoy far more Dubai and Bangkok. The FKK business in Germany is over. Since pimps have insisted on doubling the prices, given the service level, the ratio satisfaction / price does make it anymore a valid reason to visit the clubs. FKK remain at best a third or fourth option for emergencies.[/QUOTE]
I dont care about the price, I care about service and quality. Dubai is expensive but I can get more than enough Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish, Latvians, etc. to make me a very happy man. FKKs only give me Romanians and harassment.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2952331]This is a difficult choice for me. The quality of girls is better at FKKs but the service is better in Bangkok. What tips the scale in favor of Bangkok for me is GFE.[/QUOTE]
I agree. The GFE in thailand (I go to Pattaya, not Bangkok) is very good. You can pick a girl from the street, bar, club, lounge, and she will be your GF for as long as you want, and can pay.

But one really has to like Asians, because I would not rate thais as the hottest on the East Asian scale. I would give that to Koreans, but Korean mongering is not at the level of Thailand.

Hi sorry for general question, but do tsgirls anytime show up in regular FKK clubs?

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2952356]The FKK business in Germany is over. Since pimps have insisted on doubling the prices, given the service level, the ratio satisfaction / price does make it anymore a valid reason to visit the clubs. FKK remain at best a third or fourth option for emergencies.[/QUOTE]I've read that the CSU / CDU plan to make prostitution illegal in 2026 if they win the federal election next year. Hopefully that is early campaign BS.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2952177]I keep FKKs above Bangkok just because I'm not much into Asian girls.[/QUOTE]Thailand and Pattaya are cheaper, but when You are really demanding for look from your personnal references, when Russia is quite closed by Putin, then FKK land is still the best for looks, but not Sharks nor Globe for tourists. As I told a French yesterday at Magnum, when unfortunately, escorts level fell in France and Italy, I prefer to drive more than 1000 kms on week end for beauties I still find in Germany, when I became pickier since covid. Again 5 escort looks yesterday at Magnum, had 3 real beauties at Wellcum / Andiamo on this Summer. Still exist, You just have to be able to find.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2952494]
But one really has to like Asians, because I would not rate thais as the hottest on the East Asian scale. I would give that to Koreans, but Korean mongering is not at the level of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Ah but the thing about Thailand is the large number of ethnicities you get: Viets, Lao, Northern Thai, Southern Thai, Khmer, Burmese and the surgery girls that have the Korean look. Love tatts and the alternative look? Available. Tomboys? Available. Threesomes? Available. Ladyboys? Avaialble. Milfs? Available. Roboboobs? Available. Teenies (over18)? Available. All reasonably priced.

But after a year, I just need white, Romanian, Serbian, Bosnian, just be skinny, slutty looking and with an accent. Done. Free food and coffee too.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2952494]FKKs mostly have Romanians, at least that's the case at Sharks. I'm tired of Romanians, but more importantly I'm tired of their harassment. I can't even sit down for 1 second without an ugly desperate one asking me to go to the room with her and it ruins my entire FKK experience. The only time I don't get bothered is when I go to the courtyard.

For me its simple:
Dubai.
Pattaya.
FKK.

But I still need to try Sao Paulo (Scandello), Rio, and Colombia)

I dont care about the price, I care about service and quality. Dubai is expensive but I can get more than enough Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish, Latvians, etc. to make me a very happy man. FKKs only give me Romanians and harassment.


I agree. The GFE in thailand (I go to Pattaya, not Bangkok) is very good. You can pick a girl from the street, bar, club, lounge, and she will be your GF for as long as you want, and can pay.

But one really has to like Asians, because I would not rate thais as the hottest on the East Asian scale. I would give that to Koreans, but Korean mongering is not at the level of Thailand.[/QUOTE]For me it's also simple. I like to have [B]lots[/B] of anal on the menu. In this regard, Dubai and Thailand can't measure up. But the scene in Thailand is so large it can't be ignored. So, my top three for best in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. And Germany especially when I can fuck Romanian girls who look like the one in the photo who I met. People who keep insisting that all Romies have that "tanned gypsy look" are dead wrong. I've met Romanian girls like this one in Germany, Spain, Switzerland, and Austria. And I fucked them too!

Helllo Punters. I am planning to visit Germany specially to experience FKK clubs. Looking that it would be winter, will there be decent action or should I cancel my trip?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2952155]I know this is the FKK forum but I'the be doing you guys a disservice if I didn't point out that So Paulo is just much better than FKK these days. ... But if you find urself finding FKK a bit tired you are not alone and must go to Sao Paulo and Scandallo in particular. [/QUOTE]I've read you praising Scandallo in a lot of threads on this forum. It's clearly your top mongering destination. I've never been there, but I've read (and checked out its website) that Scandallo is probably the best club in Sao Paulo [B]IF & ONLY IF[/B] you like or are attracted to Latinas. I get that. Are there, at least, two to three other clubs that are second and third to (if not as good as) Scandallo in terms of quality and quantity? Can you name couple other clubs that you've personally visited and would recommend to check out in Sao Paulo? Let me ask slight differently. Is there another club in Sao Paulo that can compete with Scandallo? Regardless, who is the 2nd and 3rd best? (It's kind of like Sharks vs. Oase in Hessen.).

The reason I asked is that if I end up visiting there one day, I would want check out few other clubs instead of keep going to Scandallo even though it's the best. I guess most of us would probably hate to fly to a new place just to visit one club and get stuck there if we don't like it or get bore with it. Just like when many of us visiting FKK, we don't just stay at one club; we prefer to check out other clubs as well.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;2952607]I've read you praising Scandallo in a lot of threads on this forum. It's clearly your top mongering destination. I've never been there, but I've read (and checked out its website) that Scandallo is probably the best club in Sao Paulo [B]IF & ONLY IF[/B] you like or are attracted to Latinas. I get that. Are there, at least, two to three other clubs that are second and third to (if not as good as) Scandallo in terms of quality and quantity? Can you name couple other clubs that you've personally visited and would recommend to check out in Sao Paulo? Let me ask slight differently. Is there another club in Sao Paulo that can compete with Scandallo? Regardless, who is the 2nd and 3rd best? (It's kind of like Sharks vs. Oase in Hessen.).

The reason I asked is that if I end up visiting there one day, I would want check out few other clubs instead of keep going to Scandallo even though it's the best. I guess most of us would probably hate to fly to a new place just to visit one club and get stuck there if we don't like it or get bore with it. Just like when many of us visiting FKK, we don't just stay at one club; we prefer to check out other clubs as well.[/QUOTE]You should read the Brazil threads, including the Reports of Distinction. There are a ton of options to Scandallo, including daytime action, and typically at a lower price too.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;2952607]I've read you praising Scandallo in a lot of threads on this forum. It's clearly your top mongering destination. I've never been there, but I've read (and checked out its website) that Scandallo is probably the best club in Sao Paulo [B]IF & ONLY IF[/B] you like or are attracted to Latinas. I get that. Are there, at least, two to three other clubs that are second and third to (if not as good as) Scandallo in terms of quality and quantity? Can you name couple other clubs that you've personally visited and would recommend to check out in Sao Paulo? Let me ask slight differently. Is there another club in Sao Paulo that can compete with Scandallo? Regardless, who is the 2nd and 3rd best? (It's kind of like Sharks vs. Oase in Hessen.).

The reason I asked is that if I end up visiting there one day, I would want check out few other clubs instead of keep going to Scandallo even though it's the best. I guess most of us would probably hate to fly to a new place just to visit one club and get stuck there if we don't like it or get bore with it. Just like when many of us visiting FKK, we don't just stay at one club; we prefer to check out other clubs as well.[/QUOTE]There are two types of girl venues in So Paulo. The boate (nightclub) and the Clinica (daytime lineup. Basically a brothel). I prefer the boate but others like the cheaper daytime play. At night Scandallo is the best for atmosphere and girls. BomBoa is probably next in term of luxury and girl choice. It's a bit more like a supper club but with top notch girls. And Casarao is another fine choice. Down two notches in atmosphere and girl choice but gems to be found there. Like a crowded bar but all the girls available. I have been to all three of these and recommend them.

Best to get others recos on clinicas as it's not my jam. Some friends I know who roll high recommend the Palms. It's more a tablet format but apparently the girls are smoking. And Taj is supposed to be good also.

You can also do Seeking Arrangement like any large city. Don't worry you won't run out of options. You can also fly to Rio for $49. Has a strong girl scene as well. Tho not at good as SP it's def more fun to have the beach and Sugarloaf and all. I'the def try to do both if you have more than a week.

And yes. Best if you like Latinas. But not just the stereotype. There are super slim Latinas. Red hair. Blonds. Pixies. Japonesa mixes. Black and black mixes. You can def find ur type tho obv traditional Latinas abound. While on the subject u must experience the Brasilian butt. It is unique worldwide. It’s got an amazing bubble butt shape and it’s neither flabby nor gym rat hard. It is truly a magical creation I have not experienced elsewhere. Closest thing are some black mixes. But u will know it when u see it and feel it. Amazing.

[QUOTE=Sb1990;2952605]Helllo Punters. I am planning to visit Germany specially to experience FKK clubs. Looking that it would be winter, will there be decent action or should I cancel my trip?[/QUOTE]Just slower in Germany between 20 December and 20 January, around Orthodox Easter and a bit in August. Between 20 December and mid January, Globe. Ch is better.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2952494]FKKs mostly have Romanians, at least that's the case at Sharks. I'm tired of Romanians, but more importantly I'm tired of their harassment. I can't even sit down for 1 second without an ugly desperate one asking me to go to the room with her and it ruins my entire FKK experience. The only time I don't get bothered is when I go to the courtyard.

For me its simple:
Dubai.
Pattaya.
FKK.

But I still need to try Sao Paulo (Scandello), Rio, and Colombia)

I dont care about the price, I care about service and quality. Dubai is expensive but I can get more than enough Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish, Latvians, etc. to make me a very happy man. FKKs only give me Romanians and harassment.


I agree. The GFE in thailand (I go to Pattaya, not Bangkok) is very good. You can pick a girl from the street, bar, club, lounge, and she will be your GF for as long as you want, and can pay.

But one really has to like Asians, because I would not rate thais as the hottest on the East Asian scale. I would give that to Koreans, but Korean mongering is not at the level of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Not only Sharks in Germany and not only Romanians at Sharks where I got a French, not Tunisian Maxima, and several Germans without slicon except Ayat, since 2022 . Now, with new rates, Sharks worth only for Germans for me. Too expensive for little Romanians.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2952781]Just slower in Germany between 20 December and 20 January, around Orthodox Easter and a bit in August. Between 20 December and mid January, Globe. Ch is better.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sirioja. I am planning between 22 Jan and 02 Feb. Was wondering if winter will result in lesser girls in clubs.

[QUOTE=Sb1990;2952884]Thanks Sirioja. I am planning between 22 Jan and 02 Feb. Was wondering if winter will result in lesser girls in clubs.[/QUOTE]Most girls should be back from Christmas and new year holidays and they don't go to ski. They will need your money after spending on holidays and presents.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2952181]Thanks for the information.

Yes, I have the same feeling that FKK might not be the best option anymore, especially if there are alternatives available. After more than a decade of visiting FKK clubs, I'm feeling bored and want to try something new. Coincidentally, there's an opportunity that just came up recently. My company is temporarily relocating me to Bengaluru for a couple of years, and I will be starting work there soon. Bangalore is far from Frankfurt but closer to Dubai and Bangkok. So, these two cities will become my new "FKK" destinations. And seeking sugar babies might be an additional alternative approach.

I already said farewell to favorite girls at Sharks during my visit a few weeks ago. I told girls that I would probably see them in a year or two. None of them know where Bengaluru is. One girl thought it was "Honolulu". LOL.

I hope that when I return, maybe in two years, the girlsAriana, Celine, Rachel, Stacy, Betty, Lola, Florina, Catelea, Kitty, and otherswill still be as beautiful and attractive as ever.[/QUOTE]When I don t only play tourist at Sharks being fucked too expensive by little Romanians, even being a foreigner not speaking German, but I m still able to find high quality in Germany, when I became pickier than before covid. Most exclusive at Sharks on 2024 gave me 4 hours of very fresh GFE for 400 I gave her, from what I am, why are You so kind with me, she told, or maybe my Russian also touching her roots. At Magnum, 5 rooms with 2 top beauties and 1 real GFE real woman, Romanians. At GG, real GFE with 2 elegant woman types for 150/60 or 200/90 and no money talk, about 40 times 1 h or 1 h30 with them. Even at Wellcum and Andiamo. At on my Summer sporty tour, I got 3 beauties, making them cum. I see only Russia which could be on higher level for me, but unfortunately Putin, looking forward his death and for Ukrainians. Also big hopes, wishing for part timer like before, with YY NL reopening. On this business, You get receiving level You are able and deserve to receive. So obvious, money can t buy all, but what You are and able can also pay. Russian and making them cumming, my stars on my plane, also pay a lot for me, receiving thank You and a real will to please me back after, when relaxing them, but You can t know without having experienced. Still good game in FKK land for me, mostly in Germany, when level really fell in Switzerland. And I m working on Venus8 I really improved, now very close to reach 300 . Hopes also for 2 escorts in Paris, Russian or Ukrainian, my scanning eyes detected, when they are used to natural beauty which motivate my desire.

Out of curiosity how much are Laufhaus girls compared to FKK usually and is BJ always covered?

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2954540]Out of curiosity how much are Laufhaus girls compared to FKK usually and is BJ always covered?[/QUOTE]No shower in laufthaus, no clean bed sheet. Hygiene problem for me who like to kiss and taste girls. Except maybe covid on March 2020 , but I never caught anything else in FKK land, when I go only with girls I find clean, not looking under drug.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2954578]No shower in laufthaus, no clean bed sheet. Hygiene problem for me who like to kiss and taste girls. Except maybe covid on March 2020 , but I never caught anything else in FKK land, when I go only with girls I find clean, not looking under drug.[/QUOTE]Yeah I don't always kiss or taste the girls. All depends. In laufhaus I'd not do either. Just curious.

As of now which FKK has most pretty girls and what is the rate in that FKK? Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2954940]Yeah I don't always kiss or taste the girls. All depends. In laufhaus I'd not do either. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KkenKumar;2955761]As of now which FKK has most pretty girls and what is the rate in that FKK? Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's a good question. I'the love to know top recommendations too (a tasting menu is important). I've been out for years now but that marriage is over I wanted to find a good venue to restart. I miss Goldentime and PHG (in its better days). Having a taste for the young spinner type from my years in Asia, big boobs aren't that important as long as there's tiny hips and a nice pink pussy to nosh on.

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2957672]That's a good question. I'the love to know top recommendations too (a tasting menu is important). I've been out for years now but that marriage is over I wanted to find a good venue to restart. I miss Goldentime and PHG (in its better days). Having a taste for the young spinner type from my years in Asia, big boobs aren't that important as long as there's tiny hips and a nice pink pussy to nosh on.[/QUOTE]Some GT and LR girls are at GG which have much more beautiful rooms and more beautiful garden to enjoy beauties.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2957687]Some GT and LR girls are at GG which have much more beautiful rooms and more beautiful garden to enjoy beauties.[/QUOTE]Jane and Ruby ex LR are at GG which was closed on this Saturday by many polizei at 8. 30 pm, asking us to leave. Bad when entry 70 .

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2957773]Jane and Ruby ex LR are at GG which was closed on this Saturday by many polizei at 8. 30 pm, asking us to leave. Bad when entry 70 .[/QUOTE]Aw crap. Just as I hear GG is a good replacement, it all comes crashing down.

Thanks everyone for the GG recommendations but getting busted is not on my dance card.

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958030]Aw crap. Just as I hear GG is a good replacement, it all comes crashing down.

Thanks everyone for the GG recommendations but getting busted is not on my dance card.[/QUOTE]You don't really get busted you just don't get to bust a nut, happened to me once at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2958037]You don't really get busted you just don't get to bust a nut, happened to me once at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll bear that in mind but in the meanwhile, if not GG where else then? I'm assuming GG is gone for a while from the GG thread. Pity, I was hoping to head there in a couple weeks. Miss that whole garden cabins thing from PHG and GT. NRW is my zone. Don't want to much drive Dusseldorf if possible (that's already 2 hours).

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958146]Ok, I'll bear that in mind but in the meanwhile, if not GG where else then? I'm assuming GG is gone for a while from the GG thread. Pity, I was hoping to head there in a couple weeks. Miss that whole garden cabins thing from PHG and GT. NRW is my zone. Don't want to much drive Dusseldorf if possible (that's already 2 hours).[/QUOTE]Many clubs around Dusseldorf. Babylon and Samya for Koln, not far. Sad GG and LR are now closed. GG garden was great for sex on 2023 and 2024 . I had a 120/60 sweet GFE room with a natural beauty at LR on this year and so many 150/60 full GFE with elegant beauties at GG, less expensive, no money talk, no upselling, compare to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2958151]Many clubs around Dusseldorf. Babylon and Samya for Koln, not far. Sad GG and LR are now closed. GG garden was great for sex on 2023 and 2024 . I had a 120/60 sweet GFE room with a natural beauty at LR on this year and so many 150/60 full GFE with elegant beauties at GG, less expensive, no money talk, no upselling, compare to Sharks.[/QUOTE]I read recently that PHG is back in game. Maybe I'll give them a try first. I like the layout there and the parking is easy.

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958765]I read recently that PHG is back in game. Maybe I'll give them a try first. I like the layout there and the parking is easy.[/QUOTE]HH 40 before 2 pm and I think free beer to attract NL, opening at 1 pm. Don't expect 100 girls, but not more than 30. Maybe some GG girls will move to, when very close.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2958772]HH 40 before 2 pm and I think free beer to attract NL, opening at 1 pm. Don't expect 100 girls, but not more than 30. Maybe some GG girls will move to, when very close.[/QUOTE]HH? Sorry, but I've been out of the game for a while. What is that?

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958914]HH? Sorry, but I've been out of the game for a while. What is that?[/QUOTE]Information's for Planet Happy Garden.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2958937]Information's for Planet Happy Garden.[/QUOTE]Ah, I always referred to it as PHG. HH didn't click. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958996]Ah, I always referred to it as PHG. HH didn't click. Thanks.[/QUOTE]HH is happy hour for less expensive entry before 2 pm. Not sure, PHG is on best quality and value for money for girls.

[QUOTE=Woofiee;2958996]Ah, I always referred to it as PHG. HH didn't click. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can see HH mean Happy Hour but don't know for sure. It's always a challenge to decipher some posts into English.

After sad GG closing for me when my best quality since 2023 in FKK land, good values for money clubs are Penelope, Gold and sc Venus, when Mondial is cheap except for foods which are correct. For some pretty girls, Magnum and Samya, when one of the new prettiest at Sharks is from Magnum and Samya before. Better to be able to adapt in this business, if You want to find quality and still exist, rather than just playing tourist.

Is Artemis the only FKK in Berlin These days?

[QUOTE=Dicem111;2960477]Is Artemis the only FKK in Berlin These days?[/QUOTE]Germany is "the brothel of Europe". Millions of Monsters with penis between the legs are entering Germany every minute to pay these tutes to get riped off, or so. Brothels are not open to turn dirty towels into clean towels. It's a place to hide from the wife who is angry because of something. It's a billion euro industry! Imagine how many weapons you could buy with that money to safe the Ukraine or rescue female refugees who want to sit around in a club hour for hour for hour.

Go fast before they shut you down!

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2965163]Germany is "the brothel of Europe". Millions of Monsters with penis between the legs are entering Germany every minute to pay these tutes to get riped off, or so. Brothels are not open to turn dirty towels into clean towels. It's a place to hide from the wife who is angry because of something. It's a billion euro industry! Imagine how many weapons you could buy with that money to safe the Ukraine or rescue female refugees who want to sit around in a club hour for hour for hour.

Go fast before they shut you down![/QUOTE]Gentlemen's clubs, as they are also known, are establishments to relax and release stress. Nevertheless, as you intimated, whither the p4p industry?

What ever happened to "Beffen" and his talk about his side salads? Hahaha! I thought about that today as I enjoyed a side salad with my dinner LOL! Some regular posters just seem to disappear. Like Mr. Ho!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2967462]What ever happened to "Beffen" and his talk about his side salads? Hahaha! I thought about that today as I enjoyed a side salad with my dinner LOL! Some regular posters just seem to disappear. Like Mr. Ho![/QUOTE]On this forum, mostly tourists and only very few who try to know about the business, then I don't worry to still find values to pay for, when I became more demanding from increasing rates, when I see many paying more expensive for less pretties than looks they went with before covid. Since covid, I still found high quality, when I don t play tourist, even foreigner not speaking German.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2967462]What ever happened to "Beffen" and his talk about his side salads? Hahaha! I thought about that today as I enjoyed a side salad with my dinner LOL! Some regular posters just seem to disappear. Like Mr. Ho![/QUOTE]You know why many regular long time high quality posters have left.

What are considered the best FKKs in Frankfurt nowadays?

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;2970727]What are considered the best FKKs in Frankfurt nowadays?[/QUOTE]Not best time till 22 January, when holidays for girls.

Let's say I have an international layover from the US to North Africa in Frankfurt. I'd iike to visit an FKK Sharks, Oase, Palace or Mainhattan are all ok by me.

Would a 2 pm departure be ok? I'd need to leave for the airport 2 hours before, meaning to leave at noon. I've been at Sharks at 10, and it's still possible to have some prospects and a shag that early, but it would be a pretty quick visit. I think Oase might be worth it too, but it's on the other side of the city from the airport. Palace or Mainhattan feel more busy later in the day, if I remember correctly.

I haven't been since before the pandemic though, so I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Arrive in Frankfurt at 5 a and leave at 2 pm or arrive in Munich at 7 a and leave at 7 p?

I think Frankfurt under those hours only allows me time to visit the Red Light district. It might not be a good time to visit the FKKs.

The Munich schedule seems better, but there's only FKK Sunshine in Munich.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2972285]Arrive in Frankfurt at 5 a and leave at 2 pm or arrive in Munich at 7 a and leave at 7 p?

I think Frankfurt under those hours only allows me time to visit the Red Light district. It might not be a good time to visit the FKKs.

The Munich schedule seems better, but there's only FKK Sunshine in Munich.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Those are both crap plans. Where are you headed? If it's far east or India or the like surely you can make the argument that 24 hrs of straight travel is a non starter and you need an overnight in Frankfurt. That should be the plan.

Also if u book a round trip to Frankfurt and a separate round trip from Frankfurt on different airline to Asia u can likely save more than enough to offer hotel. Also look at Zurich. Globe is waaay better than anything in Germany.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2967462]What ever happened to "Beffen" and his talk about his side salads? Hahaha! I thought about that today as I enjoyed a side salad with my dinner LOL! Some regular posters just seem to disappear. Like Mr. Ho![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2968897]You know why many regular long time high quality posters have left.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with Rogue Nation.

I got good qualty in Germany: Russian, Italian, German and few Romanians, on 2024 . I wish for same on 2025 . And a dreamed look at Globe to finish 2024 . I also wish for Ukraine to stay free.

I put up a post in the Costa Rica section that some of you guys may be interested in reading. You can access it here:

[URL]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2972419[/URL]

[QUOTE=DenHaag;2972506]Absolutely agree with Rogue Nation.[/QUOTE]Of course I disagree, just not to agree.

Mr. Ho was absolutly a quality poster, maybe the highest.

What is this "under investigation" about? Maybe JD Vance army arrested him to make him a good christ, who knows.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2972886]I put up a post in the Costa Rica section that some of you guys may be interested in reading. You can access it here:

[URL]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2972419[/URL][/QUOTE]Welcome back Mr. TheCane. I've done the DR and a few trips to Colombia in recent times. I have a trip to Cali in a few days and one to Rio in March. Germany is very iffy for me right now.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2973100]Welcome back Mr. TheCane. Germany is very iffy for me right now.[/QUOTE]And I understand you. Based on a lot of the stuff I've been reading, if it's true, then sadly this very well could be me last hoor mongering trip to Germany. Will take place later this year. We shall see my brother in mongering. We shall see! Of course, I will prepare a detailed field report of my journey. Have you decided where to retire yet? I know you have mentioned Thailand before. I decided to stay right here in the States. No really LMAO! No more subterfuge LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2973100]Welcome back Mr. TheCane. I've done the DR and a few trips to Colombia in recent times. I have a trip to Cali in a few days and one to Rio in March. Germany is very iffy for me right now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2973104]And I understand you. Based on a lot of the stuff I've been reading, if it's true, then sadly this very well could be me last hoor mongering trip to Germany. Will take place later this year. We shall see my brother in mongering. We shall see! Of course, I will prepare a detailed field report of my journey. Have you decided where to retire yet? I know you have mentioned Thailand before. I decided to stay right here in the States. No really LMAO! No more subterfuge LOL![/QUOTE]As I don't speak Spanish, the Latin south has always been a tough place to monger but the doom and gloom of Germany' selection is a bit overstated. On price alone "maybe you are all correct" but I still find the selection good and Vienna has recently become one of my favorite places. As much for the variety of venues as for the sizes shapes and ethnicity of the ladies. I look forward to your report Mr see. I've enjoyed your posts and help over the years.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2973017]Of course I disagree, just not to agree.

What is this "under investigation" about? Maybe JD Vance army arrested him to make him a good christ, who knows.[/QUOTE]No investigation necessary. The rabbit was pulled from the hat many many moons ago.

You guys should know there is more to the German sex scene than FKKs.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2973254]You guys should know there is more to the German sex scene than FKKs.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know this, and next time I really want to maximize my options for finding and fucking the tuetonic German girls. Especially in Berlin where there is only one FKK. What are the best options for finding the German girls, particularly in Berlin?

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2973254]You guys should know there is more to the German sex scene than FKKs.[/QUOTE]Such as?

I'm not keen on laufhauses or streetwalkers. Are there any escorts that aren't actually working at a FKK?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2973104]And I understand you. Based on a lot of the stuff I've been reading, if it's true, then sadly this very well could be me last hoor mongering trip to Germany. Will take place later this year. We shall see my brother in mongering. We shall see! Of course, I will prepare a detailed field report of my journey. Have you decided where to retire yet? I know you have mentioned Thailand before. I decided to stay right here in the States. No really LMAO! No more subterfuge LOL![/QUOTE]Yes, Thailand was my choice but certain occurrences have taken place back home that have delayed that move. In the interim Colombia has unfolded as a favorable prospect. They both have their disadvantages and benefits but are much better than this sex penitentiary, LOL.

I have decided to substitute Dubai for Germany. I am planning my first visit there later this year perhaps July or August although I read that that time of year is not a good time to be there but its the most convenient time for me.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2973120]As I don't speak Spanish, the Latin south has always been a tough place to monger but the doom and gloom of Germany' selection is a bit overstated. On price alone "maybe you are all correct" but I still find the selection good and Vienna has recently become one of my favorite places. As much for the variety of venues as for the sizes shapes and ethnicity of the ladies. I look forward to your report Mr see. I've enjoyed your posts and help over the years.[/QUOTE]As any indulger in the Latin South will tell you lack of Spanish speaking skills is not an encumbrance there. I have consistently gotten better service in Latin America than in Germany and reports of deteriorating service in FKKs is of even greater concern to me than the price increases.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2973376]As any indulger in the Latin South will tell you lack of Spanish speaking skills is not an encumbrance there. I have consistently gotten better service in Latin America than in Germany and reports of deteriorating service in FKKs is of even greater concern to me than the price increases.[/QUOTE]Look and image are first criterias for me to feel desire. I will stay in FKK when I managed with 2 great Germans for 100/30 without rushing but they were volcanos in bed, all fluent and easy.

Going to be in Western Europe in a few months and thinking of a day or two in Germany (probably Frankfurt or Berlin). Always loved the concept.

But a few questions:

1. My general experience with Europe (albeit, it has been a few years) is that the "Legally Not A Brothel" places tend to reek of cigarettes and every single girl smells like she just smoked half a pack out by the dumpster and didn't even bother to take a swig of water before coming back in. I know different cultures have different views on cigarettes but. Yeah. How are the various FKK clubs in that regard?

2. Similarly, the price per session tends to be lower per session (more on that) than private escorts / services and so forth. Is this generally a "you get what you pay for" in terms of appearances? Sort of like how the ladies who hang out at hotel bars and the like tend to "look like prostitutes" whereas the gorgeous gals know they just need to post an ad and business will come to them. Not saying I need to be surrounded by supermodels (although.) and also understand that the truly beautiful women will be hunted like antelope by the other guys, but it would also be nice to not feel like I am "settling" if that makes sense.

3. And as for the price. I understand that the lower price per session is countered by the door fee. With the expectation that most people are going to come in, come once, and then leave. Not saying I plan to stay there for hours on end but it would be nice to recover and go again for The Experience. But. What is there to actually do? Obviously I can't whip out my phone and doom scroll. I would love to check out the actual "spa" aspects (even if any body of water would need to reek of chlorine for me to "trust" it) but that only lasts so long. Would it be overly weird to buy a magazine at the newstand on my way over and flip through that? Having flashbacks of a gangbang I went to a few years back where it was just a bunch of guys in towels either awkwardly watching a taped footie game or 1970's porn and neither is particularly appealing.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JimReagan;2973868]Going to be in Western Europe in a few months and thinking of a day or two in Germany (probably Frankfurt or Berlin). Always loved the concept.

But a few questions:

1. My general experience with Europe (albeit, it has been a few years) is that the "Legally Not A Brothel" places tend to reek of cigarettes and every single girl smells like she just smoked half a pack out by the dumpster and didn't even bother to take a swig of water before coming back in. I know different cultures have different views on cigarettes but. Yeah. How are the various FKK clubs in that regard?

2. Similarly, the price per session tends to be lower per session (more on that) than private escorts / services and so forth. Is this generally a "you get what you pay for" in terms of appearances? Sort of like how the ladies who hang out at hotel bars and the like tend to "look like prostitutes" whereas the gorgeous gals know they just need to post an ad and business will come to them. Not saying I need to be surrounded by supermodels (although.) and also understand that the truly beautiful women will be hunted like antelope by the other guys, but it would also be nice to not feel like I am "settling" if that makes sense.

3. And as for the price. I understand that the lower price per session is countered by the door fee. With the expectation that most people are going to come in, come once, and then leave. Not saying I plan to stay there for hours on end but it would be nice to recover and go again for The Experience. But. What is there to actually do? Obviously I can't whip out my phone and doom scroll. I would love to check out the actual "spa" aspects (even if any body of water would need to reek of chlorine for me to "trust" it) but that only lasts so long. Would it be overly weird to buy a magazine at the newstand on my way over and flip through that? Having flashbacks of a gangbang I went to a few years back where it was just a bunch of guys in towels either awkwardly watching a taped footie game or 1970's porn and neither is particularly appealing.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Are you from the UK? I am curious about your frame of reference. It seems to be different from mine. It is all good either way.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2974073]Are you from the UK? I am curious about your frame of reference. It seems to be different from mine. It is all good either way.[/QUOTE]I work out of the UK a lot.

Admittedly it has been ages since I really had a holiday in Europe proper so very much hoping some of my memories are outdated.

[QUOTE=JimReagan;2974610]I work out of the UK a lot.

Admittedly it has been ages since I really had a holiday in Europe proper so very much hoping some of my memories are outdated.[/QUOTE]Have you ever visited a FKK club? Judging from your questions and tone it does feel like you've only been to downmarket places. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you want but it's good to know what your experiences have been.

Apart from that for the bigger clubs:

1. Everyone or almost everyone smokes but you won't necessarily feel it.

2. The girls in the clubs are more attractive than in German other brothels, street scene, gangbangs etc.

3. Well, it can be boring between sessions but in some places there are saunas and, weather permitting, there's a garden or a terrace to spend some time on. There is also likely a bar.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2974738]Have you ever visited a FKK club? Judging from your questions and tone it does feel like you've only been to downmarket places. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you want but it's good to know what your experiences have been.

Apart from that for the bigger clubs:

1. Everyone or almost everyone smokes but you won't necessarily feel it.

2. The girls in the clubs are more attractive than in German other brothels, street scene, gangbangs etc.

3. Well, it can be boring between sessions but in some places there are saunas and, weather permitting, there's a garden or a terrace to spend some time on. There is also likely a bar.[/QUOTE]Not only sauna, but spa with jacuzzi, swimming pool, steam room. Also foods and drinks. Can find some on escort level in some FKK. Less and less are full naked. Better to be able to read through what they wear.

[QUOTE=JimReagan;2974610]I work out of the UK a lot.

Admittedly it has been ages since I really had a holiday in Europe proper so very much hoping some of my memories are outdated.[/QUOTE]If the food is known to be good you could eat a meal to pass some time. If they have a masseuse a massage could pass time. I have seen someone reading a book. A book might be easier to fit in a pocket than a magazine. The lighting or noice level could be an issue with reading but I think someone could do it. Some people take more time to recover than others so it is barely an issue for some I imagine. In the summer someone could lie in the sun. With all the hassles of traveling it is kind of a walk in the park for me.

[QUOTE=JimReagan;2973868]Going to be in Western Europe in a few months and thinking of a day or two in Germany (probably Frankfurt or Berlin). Always loved the concept.[/QUOTE]If you are in Germany before the weather is warm, I suggest you go to Berlin and go to Artemis. Berlin is a significantly more interesting city (outside of mongering) than Frankfurt. Whilst FRA has far more options (5-6 FKKs) Artemis has quite a lot of other "amenities". It has a gym. It's the only FKK club I have been to (and I've probably done 30 of them. Which isn't that many) which has a proper gym where you can have a very good workout. Artemis has not only sauna, steam room and professional massage (sadly male) but also Turkish bath / hammam (again by male).

You say you'll be there "in a few months". If the weather is good the choice of Frankfurt probably now wins. The outdoor areas at Oase and World are excellent. You can play (with the girls as well as other punters) football, table tennis, basketball. All at Oase, as well as lounging around a pool when recovering watching a bevvy of naked girls in high heels parade, or even swim with them in the pool. Sharks is the biggest club in Frankfurt (well Darmstadt to be accurate) and also has a decent outdoors and pool but not on the scale of Oase or World.

A word on prices. The days of the lower session fee being offset by money on the door are long gone. Sessions are no longer cheap. Pre Covid it was still possible to get 50 euros for 30 minutes. At 100 per hour I often used to ask a girl to do a deal for 2 hours for 150 and they would agree to secure the extra money. Now, in Artemis and Sharks you will find girls who will do 150 for one hour. But the majority want 200 or even more for that hour. So the "experience" of being surrounded by 100+ naked ladies is still there and great. But the pricing has gone through the roof. So much so that whereas 5 years ago I would do at least 4 or 5 trips to Germany per year, in 2024 I did only one.

But still very much worth the effort if you've never done it. Being surrounded by so many naked women, eating food, working out, watching sport, sunbathing, swimming etc all in one venue as well as the sex is truly unforgettable.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2974809]If you are in Germany before the weather is warm, I suggest you go to Berlin and go to Artemis. Berlin is a significantly more interesting city (outside of mongering) than Frankfurt. Whilst FRA has far more options (5-6 FKKs) Artemis has quite a lot of other "amenities". It has a gym. It's the only FKK club I have been to (and I've probably done 30 of them. Which isn't that many) which has a proper gym where you can have a very good workout. Artemis has not only sauna, steam room and professional massage (sadly male) but also Turkish bath / hammam (again by male).

You say you'll be there "in a few months". If the weather is good the choice of Frankfurt probably now wins. The outdoor areas at Oase and World are excellent. You can play (with the girls as well as other punters) football, table tennis, basketball. All at Oase, as well as lounging around a pool when recovering watching a bevvy of naked girls in high heels parade, or even swim with them in the pool. Sharks is the biggest club in Frankfurt (well Darmstadt to be accurate) and also has a decent outdoors and pool but not on the scale of Oase or World..[/QUOTE]Yes, for Berlin for visiting, but I don't think for Artemis quality, not best quality among German FKK. I met a great German who tried Artemis, but didn't stay to work there. I really enjoyed her for 100/30, when she is quite fire for sex.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2974809]If you are in Germany before the weather is warm, I suggest you go to Berlin and go to Artemis. Berlin is a significantly more interesting city (outside of mongering) than Frankfurt. Whilst FRA has far more options (5-6 FKKs) Artemis has quite a lot of other "amenities". It has a gym. It's the only FKK club I have been to (and I've probably done 30 of them. Which isn't that many) which has a proper gym where you can have a very good workout. Artemis has not only sauna, steam room and professional massage (sadly male) but also Turkish bath / hammam (again by male).

You say you'll be there "in a few months". If the weather is good the choice of Frankfurt probably now wins. The outdoor areas at Oase and World are excellent. You can play (with the girls as well as other punters) football, table tennis, basketball. All at Oase, as well as lounging around a pool when recovering watching a bevvy of naked girls in high heels parade, or even swim with them in the pool. Sharks is the biggest club in Frankfurt (well Darmstadt to be accurate) and also has a decent outdoors and pool but not on the scale of Oase or World.

A word on prices. The days of the lower session fee being offset by money on the door are long gone. Sessions are no longer cheap..[/QUOTE]I plan to make a major trip to FKKLand later this year. For me, a perfect session would be for 1 hour with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. What can I expect to spend for that these days in Berlin & Frankfurt? Also, I like the Romies, but what is the best way to find more German girls for sexual liaisons?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2974814]I plan to make a major trip to FKKLand later this year. For me, a perfect session would be for 1 hour with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. What can I expect to spend for that these days in Berlin & Frankfurt? Also, I like the Romies, but what is the best way to find more German girls for sexual liaisons?[/QUOTE]Artemis and Sharks may be best for Germans. When so many Romanian small pussies now, I don t know if many girls propose anal and really depending on size. CIM should be easier than FK, for extra +50 . Anal should be +100 in Germany, +200 at Globe. At Sharks, more and more girls ask now 200/60, can maybe include CIM rather than most complicated FK. When finding a girl proposing anal, around 300/60 may be a deal. I prefer GFE with a natural beauty for 100/30 or 150/60. At Globe I enjoyed a beautiful Polish for 240/45.

Hi all,

My goal are girls with a very attractive appearance. As I understand from posts on the forum, this is quite difficult and is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm looking for a place where the lineup will be significantly better than in places like Oase and Sharks. Well I mean they good but looking for something exceptional.

Money is not an issue and I am ready to pay X times more.

The question is. Are there any places that will be more expensive, but at the same time provide a significantly higher level of girls?

[QUOTE=James0326;2977097]Hi all,

My goal are girls with a very attractive appearance. As I understand from posts on the forum, this is quite difficult and is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm looking for a place where the lineup will be significantly better than in places like Oase and Sharks. Well I mean they good but looking for something exceptional.

Money is not an issue and I am ready to pay X times more.

The question is. Are there any places that will be more expensive, but at the same time provide a significantly higher level of girls?[/QUOTE]Some really pretty at Magnum and Samya, but a bit complicated about rate.

[QUOTE=James0326;2977097]Hi all,

My goal are girls with a very attractive appearance. As I understand from posts on the forum, this is quite difficult and is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm looking for a place where the lineup will be significantly better than in places like Oase and Sharks. Well I mean they good but looking for something exceptional.

Money is not an issue and I am ready to pay X times more.

The question is. Are there any places that will be more expensive, but at the same time provide a significantly higher level of girls?[/QUOTE]It is discussed ad naseum in these forums. The answer comes from using your money to find out.

[QUOTE=James0326;2977097]Hi all,

My goal are girls with a very attractive appearance. As I understand from posts on the forum, this is quite difficult and is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm looking for a place where the lineup will be significantly better than in places like Oase and Sharks. Well I mean they good but looking for something exceptional.

Money is not an issue and I am ready to pay X times more.

The question is. Are there any places that will be more expensive, but at the same time provide a significantly higher level of girls?[/QUOTE]I think Globe in Switzerland is what you may be looking for. It is more expensive but the girls and service are reputed to be of better quality.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978531]I think Globe in Switzerland is what you may be looking for. It is more expensive but the girls and service are reputed to be of better quality.[/QUOTE]Did you see with your eyes. On a party with 100 girls, I saw only 1 look who impressed me at Globe compare to Germany where I find really pretties and same GFE level than best at Globe. Many girls at Globe worked in Germany before and put silicon and tattoes. In FKK land, more expensive don t mean higher quality and girls asking the most expensive are usually not tghe best. Best usually don t speak about money. From my almost weekly experience, mainly in Germany where best value for money. But I was happy of my really pretty Globe girl on my last visit on last day 2024 .

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2978636]Did you see with your eyes. On a party with 100 girls, I saw only 1 look who impressed me at Globe compare to Germany where I find really pretties and same GFE level than best at Globe. Many girls at Globe worked in Germany before and put silicon and tattoes. In FKK land, more expensive don t mean higher quality and girls asking the most expensive are usually not tghe best. Best usually don t speak about money. From my almost weekly experience, mainly in Germany where best value for money. But I was happy of my really pretty Globe girl on my last visit on last day 2024 .[/QUOTE]I have never been to Globe but most punters say that the girls at Globe are hotter than those at German FKKs but surely the performance of the Globe babes is better.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978831]I have never been to Globe but most punters say that the girls at Globe are hotter than those at German FKKs but surely the performance of the Globe babes is better.[/QUOTE]I'm one of the guys who always held that the Globe girls generally speaking are not hotter. I don't see too many claiming that to be true these days. What the Globe aficionados really lean into is that quality performance is supposedly virtually guaranteed at Globe. I indeed had outstanding performance at Globe. Best BBBJ CIM ever. But I need to point out a couple of things. First, that BBBJ CIM was performed by a Brazilian girl LOL! She had my legs levitating up off the bed hahaha! And second, I have consistently received top-notch performance in Germany as well. These facts make it not worth it to me to incur the high cost that comes with mongering in Switzerland. I'm more than happy with Brazil and Germany as my top mongering destinations. At least I have been. Let's see if I'm saying the same thing at the end of 2025.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978831]I have never been to Globe but most punters say that the girls at Globe are hotter than those at German FKKs but surely the performance of the Globe babes is better.[/QUOTE]I have been to Globe several times.

Looks: I have found the girls to be "on average" similar EXCEPT a few better at the top end of the scale and fewer girls at the bottom end. More diverse body shapes and looks. Not exotic but not 100% Romanian! The clientele is different too. Different feel of the punters / can't put my finger on it but def different vibe.

Service for me was good. I can't speak with authority but I felt less upselling was going on and girls made sure you left the room satisfied.

I've been to 15+ different FKKs across Germany and I've had some beauties and some I'd rather forget. I've only had good times at Globe but as we all know. Every once in a while no matter how careful you are you get a cracked egg in the dozen. So...

The uniqueness is -if you're interested- the floor shows and the public sex. Some nice pole dancing. Girl and girl action with toys. Food was meh.

Otherwise if you pick the right day, the right club, it's all pretty much a wash.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2978878]I have been to Globe several times.

Looks: I have found the girls to be "on average" similar EXCEPT a few better at the top end of the scale and fewer girls at the bottom end. More diverse body shapes and looks. Not exotic but not 100% Romanian! The clientele is different too. Different feel of the punters / can't put my finger on it but def different vibe.

Service for me was good. I can't speak with authority but I felt less upselling was going on and girls made sure you left the room satisfied.

I've been to 15+ different FKKs across Germany and I've had some beauties and some I'd rather forget. I've only had good times at Globe but as we all know. Every once in a while no matter how careful you are you get a cracked egg in the dozen. So...

The uniqueness is -if you're interested- the floor shows and the public sex. Some nice pole dancing. Girl and girl action with toys. Food was meh.

Otherwise if you pick the right day, the right club, it's all pretty much a wash.[/QUOTE]Yes, Globe is more for porn, quite vulgar shows and public sex than to find many impressive looks. I was happy to find a 1,78 really pretty, but I also saw some not pretty on my last visit when 100 girls. FK and BBBJ are standard at Globe, but I also find in Germany for 100/150 , when 165 €/30 at Globe. Good point at Globe is rate for 45 mn, when 30 mn are usually too short for me. Bad points at Globe are low level rooms and average foods compare to Germany.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2978831]I have never been to Globe but most punters say that the girls at Globe are hotter than those at German FKKs but surely the performance of the Globe babes is better.[/QUOTE]Many guys are not able without club rules, so this is easier for them with Globe rules than working to deserve to receive from a girl. We also don t all have same eyes, when I find more fresh looks in Germany than now 95% at Globe. My Globe top beauty has tattoo, but angel face with so white teeth and naturals, supermodel type.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2978838]I'm one of the guys who always held that the Globe girls generally speaking are not hotter. I don't see too many claiming that to be true these days. What the Globe aficionados really lean into is that quality performance is supposedly virtually guaranteed at Globe. I indeed had outstanding performance at Globe. Best BBBJ CIM ever. But I need to point out a couple of things. First, that BBBJ CIM was performed by a Brazilian girl LOL! She had my legs levitating up off the bed hahaha! And second, I have consistently received top-notch performance in Germany as well. These facts make it not worth it to me to incur the high cost that comes with mongering in Switzerland. I'm more than happy with Brazil and Germany as my top mongering destinations. At least I have been. Let's see if I'm saying the same thing at the end of 2025.[/QUOTE]For me, Germany is better value for money than Globe, with better foods, rooms and more fresh girls, even I really enjoyed my fresh, new at Globe girl on party. For party, better to go to Globe than in Germany except Oase.

The most favorable report on Globe seems to be Tintin1's and even he speaks favorably about German FKKs. The consensus seems to be overwhelmingly in favor of Germany. I do miss my European playmates.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2979074]The most favorable report on Globe seems to be Tintin1's and even he speaks favorably about German FKKs. The consensus seems to be overwhelmingly in favor of Germany. I do miss my European playmates.[/QUOTE]I was happy about my last visit at Globe when I found a real beauty, 1,78 supermodel with angel face and still fresh GFE when new at Globe. My prettiest at Globe since 2020 , when I left very often full balls since 2021 . Also better foods with buffet. I found only 1 impressive when were 100 girls on party. Now, since covid, with many girls who worked in Germany before, Globe is not anymore higher level than what can find in Germany when working a bit professionnal and able to make girls willing to please You, for my fresh GFE for love in bed. Only in bed. I still find quite same quality than before covid, but now more expensive and having to work hard and to adapt to new market. Globe worth for those who like public sex. My new girl was surprised when I told her for a room. She had to wait for a free room, but I think she understood in room. I would be happy to repeat her, my first to repeat since 2021 .

Being quite known in this business, sometimes not a good point with so many jealous, but I receive many informations for girls, guys think on my standard, like some profiles lately at YY NL. Will have to give a look at new YY.

[QUOTE=James0326;2977097]Hi all,

My goal are girls with a very attractive appearance. As I understand from posts on the forum, this is quite difficult and is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I'm looking for a place where the lineup will be significantly better than in places like Oase and Sharks. Well I mean they good but looking for something exceptional.

Money is not an issue and I am ready to pay X times more.

The question is. Are there any places that will be more expensive, but at the same time provide a significantly higher level of girls?[/QUOTE]I would say Moscow. At least from what I had experienced 15 years ago. Its too bad this option does not exist anymore.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2979178]I would say Moscow. At least from what I had experienced 15 years ago. Its too bad this option does not exist anymore.[/QUOTE]Can find in Germany some really pretties and few at Sharks like new Alex or Bambi. Only very few at Globe. Yes, Russia is land of beauties, especially deep Siberia, Irkoutsk, Ekaterinburg. I look forward Putin death, to trip there, with my Russian learned more than 40 years ago, when was another world.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2978878]I have been to Globe several times.

Looks: I have found the girls to be "on average" similar EXCEPT a few better at the top end of the scale and fewer girls at the bottom end. More diverse body shapes and looks. Not exotic but not 100% Romanian! The clientele is different too. Different feel of the punters / can't put my finger on it but def different vibe.

Service for me was good. I can't speak with authority but I felt less upselling was going on and girls made sure you left the room satisfied.

I've been to 15+ different FKKs across Germany and I've had some beauties and some I'd rather forget. I've only had good times at Globe but as we all know. Every once in a while no matter how careful you are you get a cracked egg in the dozen. So...

The uniqueness is -if you're interested- the floor shows and the public sex. Some nice pole dancing. Girl and girl action with toys. Food was meh.

Otherwise if you pick the right day, the right club, it's all pretty much a wash.[/QUOTE]With Swiss Franc getting stronger over Euro, maybe more girls will try Globe and other Swiss clubs now?

What is considered the top lineup in Frankfurt fkks lately? Oase, Sharks, Manhattan or Palace? Only visited the Palace before, wanted to try out Oase. Will probably be visiting a Tuesday.

I prefer a place with slavic, German and or latinas / African og Arab. Not so many romanians or Bulgarians. Would you guys say palace and sharks got a more diverse lineup lately. One can still pay 100 euro for 1 hour?

Thanks for any inputs.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2983460]What is considered the top lineup in Frankfurt fkks lately? Oase, Sharks, Manhattan or Palace? Only visited the Palace before, wanted to try out Oase. Will probably be visiting a Tuesday.

I prefer a place with slavic, German and or latinas / African og Arab. Not so many romanians or Bulgarians. Would you guys say palace and sharks got a more diverse lineup lately. One can still pay 100 euro for 1 hour?

Thanks for any inputs.[/QUOTE]For 100/60, you have to go to Atlanta Hanau or Bahama Maintal or Rom. As rare as pandas at Sharks or Oase or Palace or Mainhattan. On a Tuesday, more girls will be at Sharks, maybe few Germans, Brazilians, Black and Arabic Maxima and Evelyn. Worst day in FKK. Lingerie day at Sharks.

I've read on here that Tuesday is not a great day. Is Sharks my best bet if that's the only day I'm in Frankfurt? Any other advice?

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2983460]What is considered the top lineup in Frankfurt fkks lately? Oase, Sharks, Manhattan or Palace? Only visited the Palace before, wanted to try out Oase. Will probably be visiting a Tuesday.

I prefer a place with slavic, German and or latinas / African og Arab. Not so many romanians or Bulgarians. Would you guys say palace and sharks got a more diverse lineup lately. One can still pay 100 euro for 1 hour?

Thanks for any inputs.[/QUOTE]As Siri says no 100/60 to be found in any major Frankfurt club. Long gone. Can still get it at Penelope near theüsseldorf or a few others but def not the ones you mentioned.

And it's 90% Roms in Germany. If you want Latinas go to Spain. Target rich there at Vive in Madrid or one of the many options in Barcelona as well. Going to run 200 ish an hour though. Pretty much hard to beat that in most of Europe. But colombianas, vennies, Brasileiras, Mexicans and more. Great country for Latinas for obvious reasons.

Can still find 100/60 or not far in Germany, but not at Sharks nor Oase, Mainhattan and Palace. Some for 50/30 are prettier than most at Sharks, even those asking 150/30 .

[QUOTE=Sidmartin;2983675]I've read on here that Tuesday is not a great day. Is Sharks my best bet if that's the only day I'm in Frankfurt? Any other advice?[/QUOTE]Sharks is where You will find most numerous girls, about 50 , on a Tuesday, with mostly Romanians. Maybe sexy body Zoe. De for 100/30 . Lingerie day at Sharks. Sometimes, some pretties at Oase, even less girls, but quantity is not quality. Tuesday is not best at Oase.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2983685]Can still find 100/60 or not far in Germany, but not at Sharks nor Oase, Mainhattan and Palace. Some for 50/30 are prettier than most at Sharks, even those asking 150/30 .[/QUOTE]Has it really gotten that bad? I did 3 days at sharks in mid October and nearly every girl would do 100 after a little conversation.

I also did 3 days at globe and contrary to the reviews here, I found the sharks girls better looking and better in the sack.

I was surprised reading the threads. I thought the food was better at globe, but the girls worse. From the forums I expected the opposite.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2983833]Has it really gotten that bad? I did 3 days at sharks in mid October and nearly every girl would do 100 after a little conversation.

I also did 3 days at globe and contrary to the reviews here, I found the sharks girls better looking and better in the sack.

I was surprised reading the threads. I thought the food was better at globe, but the girls worse. From the forums I expected the opposite.[/QUOTE]Yes, some at Sharks are for 100/30, if you are not into fluent real FK, but not anymore for 100/60 I got on 2021 on after covid reopening. Yes, some at Sharks are prettier than most at Globe. I prefer foods at Sharks, except when buffet at Globe and I find rooms at Sharks much higher level than low level rooms with not enough light at Globe. Better for my eyes when I can contemplate a beauty, more pleasure in my brain which is more important than filling condom.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2983833]......I also did 3 days at globe and contrary to the reviews here, I found the sharks girls better looking and better in the sack........[/QUOTE]Hold on a minute!! What!??? You've got me rethinking a possible trip to Globe.

[QUOTE=Wavarry;2983833]Has it really gotten that bad? I did 3 days at sharks in mid October and nearly every girl would do 100 after a little conversation.[/QUOTE]Discussions about prices are pretty lame unless you specify time and performance.

I can confirm that just about 100% of the girls I met at Sharks (and any other FKK club in Frankfurt for that matter) would agree to 100 E /30 in 2024. That's a no-brainer. The interesting part was if they just provided a lousy LH S&F session (BJ / CFS), or if they stuck to old gold GFE standard (with inter alia DFK / DATY added) at no extra cost.

So, what kind of services were granted in your 100 E sessions in October?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2983878]Hold on a minute!! What!??? You've got me rethinking a possible trip to Globe.[/QUOTE]100/30 minimum.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2983888]Discussions about prices are pretty lame unless you specify time and performance.

I can confirm that just about 100% of the girls I met at Sharks (and any other FKK club in Frankfurt for that matter) would agree to 100 E /30 in 2024. That's a no-brainer. The interesting part was if they just provided a lousy LH S&F session (BJ / CFS), or if they stuck to old gold GFE standard (with inter alia DFK / DATY added) at no extra cost.

So, what kind of services were granted in your 100 E sessions in October?[/QUOTE]Not much problem to find 100 for suck and fuck, too expensive for me for this.

I would like to put in a word for the FKK club at Torgauer Str. 246,04347 Leipzig. It is a substantial place with good facilities including cinema, sauna, whirlpools, buffet, bar, solarium etc and a laufhaus adjoining. It is reached by tram route 3 from the central station (hauptbahnhof) - alight at Bautzenstrasse and walk forward along the main road. The club is about 300 metres on the right, next to a large water tower, and painted red. Entry is 85 which covers lunch and dinner buffets, use of all rooms and wellness facilities (except solarium), the sex cinema, all non-alcoholic hot and cold drinks (except Red Bull), and draft beer. The standard charge appeared to be 100/30 including DATY and BBBJ, however I found it was possible to negotiate rates when business is a bit slow. Two Hungarian girls, Adriana and Cristina, accepted my argument that I just did not have enough money for both of them. After they saw me discourage another prospector, they approached me again and offered 150/30 for the two of them but the BJ would have to be covered. I agreed. In the room, it was clear that they were both suffering a degree of frustration and couldn't wait to get on top of me. But first I made them give me a good sucking before Cristina, a dark-haired slim MILF of about 50 started riding me like a trooper. Excellent service at a reasonable rate, by today's standards. So I would recommend putting Leipzig on a your list for a try-out. The laufhaus next door had some young talent and although I looked round I didn't sample the goods.

Whats is considered the first tier club in Frankfurt regarding the lineup lately?

So I read that 100€ for 1 hour is long gone, so how much is the going rate? 150€per hour or even more? What do you guys typically pay them for 1 hour.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2989312]Whats is considered the first tier club in Frankfurt regarding the lineup lately?

So I read that 100 for 1 hour is long gone, so how much is the going rate? 150per hour or even more? What do you guys typically pay them for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]For more numerous girls and Germans, Sharks. Also Oase and Mainhattan, with less girls, but few pretties, I like both to relax. 100/30 is most often minimum now, often extra for FK. Big inflation since 2022 , when I had 100/60 with FK on 2021 . But can still find really good quality with some. My advice: most expensive are usually not the best and avoid upselling for FK, when You will get low FK quality for 50 more. Around Dusseldorf, can still find 50/30 . 70/30 at YY NL on border. Inflation at 6 ens NL close to Aachen. Some Swiss clubs are competitive with their HH. 80/30 at Wellcum. At on Italian border.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2989312]So I read that 100 for 1 hour is long gone, so how much is the going rate?[/QUOTE]I read about that somewhere, maybe you can read some of the earlier posts and find out.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2989376]For more numerous girls and Germans, Sharks. Also Oase and Mainhattan, with less girls, but few pretties, I like both to relax. 100/30 is most often minimum now, often extra for FK. Big inflation since 2022 , when I had 100/60 with FK on 2021 . But can still find really good quality with some. My advice: most expensive are usually not the best and avoid upselling for FK, when You will get low FK quality for 50 more. Around Dusseldorf, can still find 50/30 . 70/30 at YY NL on border. Inflation at 6 ens NL close to Aachen. Some Swiss clubs are competitive with their HH. 80/30 at Wellcum. At on Italian border.[/QUOTE]More Germans in Samya recently with 2 of them being the Legend's favourite. Also I partied at Oase with the legend for two days consecutively, it was great fun.

[QUOTE=Long420;2989512]More Germans in Samya recently with 2 of them being the Legend's favourite. Also I partied at Oase with the legend for two days consecutively, it was great fun.[/QUOTE]I doubt 8 Germans at Samya or Oase and Sharks is safe for those who like to visit. I drive to FKK for girls, not for gay party.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2989523]I doubt 8 Germans at Samya or Oase and Sharks is safe for those who like to visit. I drive to FKK for girls, not for gay party.[/QUOTE]At sharks girls are real sharks for tourists, They will eat you up, High upsale unless you go there with someone like the legend. Not recommended for tourists.

[QUOTE=Long420;2989512]More Germans in Samya recently with 2 of them being the Legend's favourite. Also I partied at Oase with the legend for two days consecutively, it was great fun.[/QUOTE]Blond MILF type with cellulite on ass and tall chesnut with average face? Sitting close to DJ.

[QUOTE=Long420;2990306]At sharks girls are real sharks for tourists, They will eat you up, High upsale unless you go there with someone like the legend. Not recommended for tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't need your idol legend, when I get really good on my own with the most exclusive at Sharks booked by Germans, often over time and never asked for more money. I get from what I am. I agree price is a problem at Sharks, so you have to choose reliable girls, 3 attractive Germans for me. Looks on 2025 are far higher level than at Samya where my eyes were so disappointed on Friday night.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2990396]Blond MILF type with cellulite on ass and tall chesnut with average face? Sitting close to DJ.[/QUOTE]There are two Germans who are Legend's favourite, the beautiful one Natalia is only there during the weekends and she is fond of the legend.

[QUOTE=Long420;2990488]There are two Germans who are Legend's favourite, the beautiful one Natalia is only there during the weekends and she is fond of the legend.[/QUOTE]I was really disappointed by looks seen on Friday night. Far lower than girls I got in past and than at Sharks on this year. Sad for Samya where used to have really pretties. Even after no room at YY till 8 pm, but 0 desire at night at Samya, when I see everywhere guys paying to fuck uglies.

Gents / Senior members.

I'll confess that I took 2024 "off" and didn't visit any FKKs last year. I was frankly dismayed at pricing, lack of quality for the money etc.

But I've greatly missed the overall experience in an FKK of being surrounded by a lot of naked ladies. Not always to everyone's tastes but there are nearly always in any FKK a few girls at the very least I've found sexy enough for me to want to have fun and I've had an awful lot of fun in the many FKKs I have visited over the last 12 years since my very first visit to Artemis in Berlin. Great times. I love summer in the Oase garden. World despite the journey is great outdoors. I've probably been to Sharks more than anywhere else due to numbers, I like the layout, garden areas, upstairs area. I've been to big and small FKKs from Acapulco Gold, a tiny club in Dresden, and the big 5 in FRA.

I've read back through some recent pages and don't get a clear picture of price variations. I know Artemis has always been the most expensive (for both entry and time in the rooms). Post the 2017 law the girls stared wanting 20 extra for BBBJ. Does that still happen? Sharks went from a fabulous 50/ hour to now 100/ hour though on my last visit (admittedly over a year ago) I got a decent deal on 150/ hour particularly when saying I would do 2 hours at that price if service was great.

My understanding is that Oase is 150/ hour. What about Acapulco Gold 100/ hour? Still? I would be most grateful for a list of prices for one hour standard service but inclusive BBBJ at say 1. Artemis 2. Sharks 3. Oase 4, Palace 5 Mainhattan, 6 World 7 Oceans 8 Acapulco Gold 9 Atmos (Hamburg) and 10. Samya Koln.

Planning a trip for a week in the next month and would be grateful to know what are the current prices.

Many thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2991361]Gents / Senior members.

I'll confess that I took 2024 "off" and didn't visit any FKKs last year. I was frankly dismayed at pricing, lack of quality for the money etc.

But I've greatly missed the overall experience in an FKK of being surrounded by a lot of naked ladies. Not always to everyone's tastes but there are nearly always in any FKK a few girls at the very least I've found sexy enough for me to want to have fun and I've had an awful lot of fun in the many FKKs I have visited over the last 12 years since my very first visit to Artemis in Berlin. Great times. I love summer in the Oase garden. World despite the journey is great outdoors. I've probably been to Sharks more than anywhere else due to numbers, I like the layout, garden areas, upstairs area. I've been to big and small FKKs from Acapulco Gold, a tiny club in Dresden, and the big 5 in FRA.

I've read back through some recent pages and don't get a clear picture of price variations. I know Artemis has always been the most expensive (for both entry and time in the rooms). Post the 2017 law the girls stared wanting 20 extra for BBBJ. Does that still happen? Sharks went from a fabulous 50/ hour to now 100/ hour though on my last visit (admittedly over a year ago) I got a decent deal on 150/ hour particularly when saying I would do 2 hours at that price if service was great.

My understanding is that Oase is 150/ hour. What about Acapulco Gold 100/ hour? Still? I would be most grateful for a list of prices for one hour standard service but inclusive BBBJ at say 1. Artemis 2. Sharks 3. Oase 4, Palace 5 Mainhattan, 6 World 7 Oceans 8 Acapulco Gold 9 Atmos (Hamburg) and 10. Samya Koln.

Planning a trip for a week in the next month and would be grateful to know what are the current prices.

Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sharks was never 50/60 but 50/30 til 2020 . Still clubs at 50/30 : Atlanta, Bahama, sauna club Venus, Gold, brother Penelope, probably Prime Velbert, Samya for basic, probably Mondial. Big in Hessen are 100/150 for FK /30 and 150/250/60 . When I like to play tramp to fight new rates, I manage to still find really high quality in FKK, but when I really enjoyed some Romanians, I find their level really fell since 2022 with many small pussies now, and since 2023 , I m more into Germans, I improved with Germans for GFE. White cabins in Oase garden should be good on Summer, when Sharks chalets are too warm as soon sunny. When World is not anymore what it was, pity for tree room to play bonobo, Tarzan with Jane, not the ex LR now at YY after GG one. Unfortunately, high quality GG is closed since 2 November when was my best on 2023 and 2024 , having so many weekly great rooms there with so sexy Italia and elegant Russia for 150/60 for full GFE. LR is also closed, but YY reopened, high quality for club, but unfortunately not for looks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2991361]Gents / Senior members.

I'll confess that I took 2024 "off" and didn't visit any FKKs last year. I was frankly dismayed at pricing, lack of quality for the money etc.

But I've greatly missed the overall experience in an FKK of being surrounded by a lot of naked ladies. Not always to everyone's tastes but there are nearly always in any FKK a few girls at the very least I've found sexy enough for me to want to have fun and I've had an awful lot of fun in the many FKKs I have visited over the last 12 years since my very first visit to Artemis in Berlin. Great times. I love summer in the Oase garden. World despite the journey is great outdoors. I've probably been to Sharks more than anywhere else due to numbers, I like the layout, garden areas, upstairs area. I've been to big and small FKKs from Acapulco Gold, a tiny club in Dresden, and the big 5 in FRA.

I've read back through some recent pages and don't get a clear picture of price variations. I know Artemis has always been the most expensive (for both entry and time in the rooms). Post the 2017 law the girls stared wanting 20 extra for BBBJ. Does that still happen? Sharks went from a fabulous 50/ hour to now 100/ hour though on my last visit (admittedly over a year ago) I got a decent deal on 150/ hour particularly when saying I would do 2 hours at that price if service was great.

My understanding is that Oase is 150/ hour. What about Acapulco Gold 100/ hour? Still? I would be most grateful for a list of prices for one hour standard service but inclusive BBBJ at say 1. Artemis 2. Sharks 3. Oase 4, Palace 5 Mainhattan, 6 World 7 Oceans 8 Acapulco Gold 9 Atmos (Hamburg) and 10. Samya Koln.

Planning a trip for a week in the next month and would be grateful to know what are the current prices.

Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I will be returning this fall. Interested in your upcoming impressions and feedback.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2991363]Sharks was never 50/60 but 50/30 til 2020 . Still clubs at 50/30 : Atlanta, Bahama, sauna club Venus, Gold, brother Penelope, probably Prime Velbert, Samya for basic, probably Mondial. Big in Hessen are 100/150 for FK /30 and 150/250/60 . When I like to play tramp to fight new rates, I manage to still find really high quality in FKK, but when I really enjoyed some Romanians, I find their level really fell since 2022 with many small pussies now, and since 2023 , I m more into Germans, I improved with Germans for GFE. White cabins in Oase garden should be good on Summer, when Sharks chalets are too warm as soon sunny. When World is not anymore what it was, pity for tree room to play bonobo, Tarzan with Jane, not the ex LR now at YY after GG one. Unfortunately, high quality GG is closed since 2 November when was my best on 2023 and 2024 , having so many weekly great rooms there with so sexy Italia and elegant Russia for 150/60 for full GFE. LR is also closed, but YY reopened, high quality for club, but unfortunately not for looks.[/QUOTE]Much appreciated as ever Sirioja. Of course re Sharks. My error. The days of 50/30 were amazing so you could have a trial run with a few girls during the day and select your main fun from service levels. What a shame Hessen levels have increased so much. 250/60 has gone silly when you consider entrance fee on top. Potential for over 350 for 60 with one extra. Crazy. Might venture to some of the smaller clubs based upon this.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2991594]Much appreciated as ever Sirioja. Of course re Sharks. My error. The days of 50/30 were amazing so you could have a trial run with a few girls during the day and select your main fun from service levels. What a shame Hessen levels have increased so much. 250/60 has gone silly when you consider entrance fee on top. Potential for over 350 for 60 with one extra. Crazy. Might venture to some of the smaller clubs based upon this.[/QUOTE]Yes, most girls ask now crazy at Sharks, but most are not so busy, so I think 300/90 maybe with CIM could be possible with some. Now, I prefer to play tramp and try to get the best for 100/150 , interesting new game. When girls want to ask more expensive than escorts and many guys at Sharks pay really crazy: 500/120 and only therapy but no fucking, I want escort level and not many are on this level, but I have 3 Germans, so, Sharks 2025 is good for me.

Upcoming trip to FKK Land. Not been for over a year. I have 5 days and nights. Day 1 will be Aca Gold Duss. Like my previous visit and the vibe. One of the days / nights will definitely be Oase and ditto Sharks. That leaves 2 "free" days / nights to choose where to go. Options are to repeat at Oase / Sharks (2 days therefore at each) or go to Palace or Mainhattan. But both threads reporting low quality line ups presently. Or I could stay in Duss another day and do Oceans though didn't love my last few visits and hate the way the food works in that cafe area where you have to order.

Wondered if senior members, based on current on the ground knowledge of line ups etc could give me some advice on best itinerary.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2992925]Upcoming trip to FKK Land. Not been for over a year. I have 5 days and nights. Day 1 will be Aca Gold Duss. Like my previous visit and the vibe. One of the days / nights will definitely be Oase and ditto Sharks. That leaves 2 "free" days / nights to choose where to go. Options are to repeat at Oase / Sharks (2 days therefore at each) or go to Palace or Mainhattan. But both threads reporting low quality line ups presently. Or I could stay in Duss another day and do Oceans though didn't love my last few visits and hate the way the food works in that cafe area where you have to order.

Wondered if senior members, based on current on the ground knowledge of line ups etc could give me some advice on best itinerary.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would choose Penelope for higher level than brother Gold. On a Friday or Saturday, new YY with 70/30 on border. Around Frankfurt, Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan, few pretties in 3 , when I was disappointed by looks now at Samya. Better to visit from Wednesday to Sunday. When You don t play just tourist to be fucked, can still find high quality in Germany. Problem in 3 big in Hessen is rates, so I chose to play tramp with talent versus inflation and already had 7 rooms with most exclusive at Sharks. Quality I make, still worth my 1200 kms drivings, enjoying autobahns.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2992925]Upcoming trip to FKK Land. Not been for over a year. I have 5 days and nights. Day 1 will be Aca Gold Duss. Like my previous visit and the vibe. One of the days / nights will definitely be Oase and ditto Sharks. That leaves 2 "free" days / nights to choose where to go. Options are to repeat at Oase / Sharks (2 days therefore at each) or go to Palace or Mainhattan. But both threads reporting low quality line ups presently. Or I could stay in Duss another day and do Oceans though didn't love my last few visits and hate the way the food works in that cafe area where you have to order.

Wondered if senior members, based on current on the ground knowledge of line ups etc could give me some advice on best itinerary.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You better try Samya on the way to Frankfurt from dusseldrof.

[QUOTE=Long420;2992959]You better try Samya on the way to Frankfurt from dusseldrof.[/QUOTE]I've been there a few times but don't massively like the feel of the club.

I'm likely on public transport so doubt I would both getting off the ICE from Duss to FRA just for Samya. I have fond memories of when it was an incredible 50/30 then 25 euros for each 30 minutes after. Amazing. Those days now long gone of course!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2992941]I would choose Penelope for higher level than brother Gold. On a Friday or Saturday, new YY with 70/30 on border. Around Frankfurt, Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan, few pretties in 3 , when I was disappointed by looks now at Samya. Better to visit from Wednesday to Sunday. When You don t play just tourist to be fucked, can still find high quality in Germany. Problem in 3 big in Hessen is rates, so I chose to play tramp with talent versus inflation and already had 7 rooms with most exclusive at Sharks. Quality I make, still worth my 1200 kms drivings, enjoying autobahns.[/QUOTE]I had intended to use public transport but I quite like trying new clubs and have never been to the old YY so might take up your suggestion. Not loving that it closes 23.00 though. Where does Penelope work? YY? I am there Tuesday to Sunday but will definitely be in Oase and Sharks on two nights. Although I know the rates are high, and tourists get a raw deal, I'll still go for 3 reasons. First, a trip to FKK land for any tourist isn't complete without attending both clubs (IMHO). Second, I like both clubs and am prepared to pay a bit more for the pleasure and (3) Despite not going for a year, I have visited that often in the past most of the girls know me so I don't tend to get too ripped off!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993079]I had intended to use public transport but I quite like trying new clubs and have never been to the old YY so might take up your suggestion. Not loving that it closes 23.00 though. Where does Penelope work? YY? I am there Tuesday to Sunday but will definitely be in Oase and Sharks on two nights. Although I know the rates are high, and tourists get a raw deal, I'll still go for 3 reasons. First, a trip to FKK land for any tourist isn't complete without attending both clubs (IMHO). Second, I like both clubs and am prepared to pay a bit more for the pleasure and (3) Despite not going for a year, I have visited that often in the past most of the girls know me so I don't tend to get too ripped off![/QUOTE]Are you expecting to pay 100 for 30 minutes? That's what I did recently at both Oase and Sharks. I'm a tourist.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993078]I've been there a few times but don't massively like the feel of the club.

I'm likely on public transport so doubt I would both getting off the ICE from Duss to FRA just for Samya. I have fond memories of when it was an incredible 50/30 then 25 euros for each 30 minutes after. Amazing. Those days now long gone of course![/QUOTE]I remember my 4 hours discovery with Katea for 300 , on end of July 2016 . Amazing GFE room, so intense. She really impressed me for her potential and high level athlet stamina.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993079]I had intended to use public transport but I quite like trying new clubs and have never been to the old YY so might take up your suggestion. Not loving that it closes 23.00 though. Where does Penelope work? YY? I am there Tuesday to Sunday but will definitely be in Oase and Sharks on two nights. Although I know the rates are high, and tourists get a raw deal, I'll still go for 3 reasons. First, a trip to FKK land for any tourist isn't complete without attending both clubs (IMHO). Second, I like both clubs and am prepared to pay a bit more for the pleasure and (3) Despite not going for a year, I have visited that often in the past most of the girls know me so I don't tend to get too ripped off![/QUOTE]If You land in Frankfurt on Tuesday, I would go to Sharks on Wednesday with entry 50 , Oase on Thursday, best of Oase is when party, Penelope near Dortmund or YY on Friday or Saturday, Sharks on Sunday before 2 pm for HH 50 , even quite slow til 5 pm. HH 60 at YY before 1 pm when no party and entry 35 at Penelope before 7 pm when no party, with girls for 50/60/30 . Massage also at Penelope. Also thaï at Oase. Bus station not far from YY which is not far from Roermond NL just on border. Old YY was great, but new YY is just superb, girls are for 70/30 , written in lockers. Enjoy your tour, can still find really good in Germany, when I look forward so much my free ride tour, I wish on next week.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2993112]If You land in Frankfurt on Tuesday, I would go to Sharks on Wednesday with entry 50 , Oase on Thursday, best of Oase is when party, Penelope near Dortmund or YY on Friday or Saturday, Sharks on Sunday before 2 pm for HH 50 , even quite slow til 5 pm. HH 60 at YY before 1 pm when no party and entry 35 at Penelope before 7 pm when no party, with girls for 50/60/30 . Massage also at Penelope. Also tha at Oase. Bus station not far from YY which is not far from Roermond NL just on border. Old YY was great, but new YY is just superb, girls are for 70/30 , written in lockers. Enjoy your tour, can still find really good in Germany, when I look forward so much my free ride tour, I wish on next week.[/QUOTE]Very helpul thanks. I thought Penelope was a girl! LOL! I arrive in Dusseldorf on Tuesday and will head to Aca Gold first but may well try these two new venues for me before heading to Frankfurt. Many thanks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993078]I've been there a few times but don't massively like the feel of the club.

I'm likely on public transport so doubt I would both getting off the ICE from Duss to FRA just for Samya. I have fond memories of when it was an incredible 50/30 then 25 euros for each 30 minutes after. Amazing. Those days now long gone of course![/QUOTE]You can take a train to Colonge and a tram from there then you can take a fast train from colone / Bonn to Frankfurt.

Me and the legend will be there on Saturday.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2993089]Are you expecting to pay 100 for 30 minutes? That's what I did recently at both Oase and Sharks. I'm a tourist.[/QUOTE]Yes. That was the price when I was last in both although 150/30 was mainly available in Oase but rarely in Sharks. Whilst steep, it's in line with other parts of Europe. I spend a lot of every year at my home in Spain and 200/ hour in clubs has become very normal and in some that is cheap! Dubai has become cheaper and has great options but it's impossible not to love the unique experience of FKK and I like the big Hessen clubs so alas, needs must.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993158]Very helpul thanks. I thought Penelope was a girl! LOL! I arrive in Dusseldorf on Tuesday and will head to Aca Gold first but may well try these two new venues for me before heading to Frankfurt. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Gold is close to airport, but Tuesday is slowest day. From Monday to Wednesday are slow days in NRW and YY where will be less than 20 girls, when large casting at Sharks on Wednesday when entry 50 . Penelope is Gold big brother and with higher quality for me. Enjoy your tour. Best showers at Gold are close to sauna and better to put your values in small locker.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2993112]If You land in Frankfurt on Tuesday, I would go to Sharks on Wednesday with entry 50 , Oase on Thursday, best of Oase is when party, Penelope near Dortmund or YY on Friday or Saturday, Sharks on Sunday before 2 pm for HH 50 , even quite slow til 5 pm. HH 60 at YY before 1 pm when no party and entry 35 at Penelope before 7 pm when no party, with girls for 50/60/30 . Massage also at Penelope. Also tha at Oase. Bus station not far from YY which is not far from Roermond NL just on border. Old YY was great, but new YY is just superb, girls are for 70/30 , written in lockers. Enjoy your tour, can still find really good in Germany, when I look forward so much my free ride tour, I wish on next week.[/QUOTE]Legend and I will be at Oase on Friday and at Samya on Saturday.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2993182]Gold is close to airport, but Tuesday is slowest day. From Monday to Wednesday are slow days in NRW and YY where will be less than 20 girls, when large casting at Sharks on Wednesday when entry 50 . Penelope is Gold big brother and with higher quality for me. Enjoy your tour. Best showers at Gold are close to sauna and better to put your values in small locker.[/QUOTE]I don't really have a choice on Tuesday as I don't land until 9 pm at Dusseldorf so by the time I check in the hotel I'll get a couple of hours in Aca G and so long as I find one girl to my liking that will have to do. I know Sharks will be busy on the Wednesday but I will save it until end of trip on the Saturday. My decision is really whether to do Penelope the next day (en route to FRA), or head to Cologne for Samya or Pasha, before getting to Oase on Thursday, likely Palace Friday and Sharks Saturday. I think to head to YY midweek would be a waste of a day. Great to have the options.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2993327]I don't really have a choice on Tuesday as I don't land until 9 pm at Dusseldorf so by the time I check in the hotel I'll get a couple of hours in Aca G and so long as I find one girl to my liking that will have to do. I know Sharks will be busy on the Wednesday but I will save it until end of trip on the Saturday. My decision is really whether to do Penelope the next day (en route to FRA), or head to Cologne for Samya or Pasha, before getting to Oase on Thursday, likely Palace Friday and Sharks Saturday. I think to head to YY midweek would be a waste of a day. Great to have the options.[/QUOTE]Then, I would do nothing on Tuesday night, but Gold on Wednesday and then Hessen. Oase on Thursday and Saturday. Sharks on Friday and Sunday, rather than Palace. Maybe, Mainhattan. Penelope and Samya only worth after 7/8 pm, but I was disappointed by looks now at Samya, but I may be too picky, but I find elsewhere few attractive. For sure, Wednesday would not be best to discover far away YY which is so beautiful. Black girls there.

Have any of you been to Wellcum? Can't see a crazy difference between Austrian FKK and German, except the price is higher at most of them. But Wellcum seems to have a legendary status on the Austrian page. Is it worth the trip? Is it that much better than Sharks? Is it a "must" destination in the FKK world? Just not sure if a 4 hour drive is really worth my time, vs another day at one of the multitudes of German FKK.

[QUOTE=LR123;2995411]Have any of you been to Wellcum? Can't see a crazy difference between Austrian FKK and German, except the price is higher at most of them. But Wellcum seems to have a legendary status on the Austrian page. Is it worth the trip? Is it that much better than Sharks? Is it a "must" destination in the FKK world? Just not sure if a 4 hour drive is really worth my time, vs another day at one of the multitudes of German FKK.[/QUOTE]Good point for Wellcum is 80/30 , but some girls at Sharks are on higher level. On 2025 , Sharks is best casting for me. Better foods at Wellcum. More than 4 hours driving between Wellcum and Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2995448] More than 4 hours driving between Wellcum and Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention I'll be in Vienna at that time, with a free night. So not a horrible drive from there. But my reference points are all FKK in Germany vs the oddly expensive places around Vienna.

[QUOTE=LR123;2995611]Forgot to mention I'll be in Vienna at that time, with a free night. So not a horrible drive from there. But my reference points are all FKK in Germany vs the oddly expensive places around Vienna.[/QUOTE]From Vienna, Wellcum worth a discovery, with better rate 80/30 and better foods. Closing not so late.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2995670]From Vienna, Wellcum worth a discovery, with better rate 80/30 and better foods. Closing not so late.[/QUOTE]Few ex Globe at Wellcum. Closing around 1 am.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2995759]Few ex Globe at Wellcum. Closing around 1 am.[/QUOTE]Thanks, will cross post review here.

If you had to pick one place for your one night. Cab distance from downtown.

I've been to Palace and Sharks.

[QUOTE=LR123;2997875]If you had to pick one place for your one night. Cab distance from downtown.

I've been to Palace and Sharks.[/QUOTE]Oase for sure. Its the best club in Frankfurt.

Is Monday a horrible day to go to FKKs in the Frankfurt area? Is Sunday or Tuesday any better?

I used to go to FKKs (Oase, World, Sharks, Golden Times, etc.) in Germany fairly often but have not in the last 8 years or so, as my playgrouind shifted to Ukraine, and obviously I need to shift back to Germany now. After the war started, I've been importing some girls I know from Ukraine. I'm based in Poland, in between Ukraine and Germany.

So, it used to be E65 for entry and E50/30. I'm really surprised to read that it's now E100/30. I guess it has been the case after Covid?

As of now, I'm planning to have a full day on a Monday in May in Frankfurt. To this effect, which one would you recommend, Oase, Sharks or Mainhatten or somewhere else? I have never been to Mainhatten and am also surprised to hear it's World's sister FKK. And it is as large as World? But sometimes there are only a dosen girls and a dosen guys?

[QUOTE=LR123;2997875]If you had to pick one place for your one night. Cab distance from downtown.

I've been to Palace and Sharks.[/QUOTE]Depend on day. Sharks have everyday most numerous girls.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2997973]Is Monday a horrible day to go to FKKs in the Frankfurt area? Is Sunday or Tuesday any better?

I used to go to FKKs (Oase, World, Sharks, Golden Times, etc.) in Germany fairly often but have not in the last 8 years or so, as my playgrouind shifted to Ukraine, and obviously I need to shift back to Germany now. After the war started, I've been importing some girls I know from Ukraine. I'm based in Poland, in between Ukraine and Germany.

So, it used to be E65 for entry and E50/30. I'm really surprised to read that it's now E100/30. I guess it has been the case after Covid?

As of now, I'm planning to have a full day on a Monday in May in Frankfurt. To this effect, which one would you recommend, Oase, Sharks or Mainhatten or somewhere else? I have never been to Mainhatten and am also surprised to hear it's World's sister FKK. And it is as large as World? But sometimes there are only a dosen girls and a dosen guys?[/QUOTE]Sunday is much better than Monday and Tuesday for casting. Sunday is usually quite good at Sharks. To avoid tomorrow, Easter.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2997973]Is Monday a horrible day to go to FKKs in the Frankfurt area? Is Sunday or Tuesday any better?[/QUOTE]Mondays and Tuesdays are the days of the week when the girls take a day off to rest. Expect 40- 60% of a normal lineup.

ZB: If Sharks has 100 girls on a Saturday night, there will only be 10- 20 around on a Monday morning. Then slowly improving. It peaks around 4- 8 pm.

Other clubs? Cut Sharks' numbers in half. Perhaps more. Still more than you can fuck, even in the morning. Most of the other clubs do not get going before after 8 pm.

Many gents love Sundays at Sharks due to low entrance fee before 2 pm (50 E). Personally I avoid it due to high number of men, or go for late arrival in the evening (when the gents leave to rest for work on Monday). With a little luck some of the superstars are in attendance on Monday, with few men, meaning the choices are better on a Monday than an overcrowded Sunday. But not always. Sometimes you can wait for hours in an empty club on Mondays with nothing of interest. The risk is on you.

Which club to recommend? Depends on what you are looking for. Can you specify? All clubs have their fanboys. Most will probably say Sharks on Mondays / Tuesdays due to sheer number of girls (best selection). Others will claim that number of girls is irrelevant and will emphasize other things. Which one is you?

Have fun! I hope you take time to give back to the forum with a report.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2998066]Mondays and Tuesdays are the days of the week when the girls take a day off to rest. Expect 40- 60% of a normal lineup.

ZB: If Sharks has 100 girls on a Saturday night, there will only be 10- 20 around on a Monday morning. Then slowly improving. It peaks around 4- 8 pm.

Other clubs? Cut Sharks' numbers in half. Perhaps more. Still more than you can fuck, even in the morning. Most of the other clubs do not get going before after 8 pm.

Many gents love Sundays at Sharks due to low entrance fee before 2 pm (50 E). Personally I avoid it due to high number of men, or go for late arrival in the evening (when the gents leave to rest for work on Monday). With a little luck some of the superstars are in attendance on Monday, with few men, meaning the choices are better on a Monday than an overcrowded Sunday. But not always. Sometimes you can wait for hours in an empty club on Mondays with nothing of interest. The risk is on you.

Which club to recommend? Depends on what you are looking for. Can you specify? All clubs have their fanboys. Most will probably say Sharks on Mondays / Tuesdays due to sheer number of girls (best selection). Others will claim that number of girls is irrelevant and will emphasize other things. Which one is you?

Have fun! I hope you take time to give back to the forum with a report.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation.

Shark's website says 50 E on Wednesday, but is it Sunday? The same with Oase. 50 E until 14:00 on Wednesday.

All in all, Sharks sounds the best bet as far as younger, prettier girls go, bar bad luck, but the problem with Sharks for me is that I can't seem to find a decent and cheap accommodation nearby even on Sunday or Monday. As I won't be driving, I need such a place nearby. I have reserved a hotel near Oase for 50 E per night, but I now guess it's because my reservation is on Sunday and Monday.

So, my plan right now may be to try to go to Oase on Sunday. The earliest I can get there is 15:00, which I guess is not bad. There is a bus stop a few hundred meters form Oase across a stream. I hope the little bridge is still there, lol. Oase is the one I most often frequented, so I might just go back there also for nostalgia.

I'm not sure what to do in Monday, though. I could possible just go back to Oase and relax all day without getting a girl. 65 E includes lunch and dinner, so not too bad.

"Which one is you?" Haha, all I need is just one young, pretty girl!

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2998150]Thanks for the explanation.

Shark's website says 50 E on Wednesday, but is it Sunday? The same with Oase. 50 E until 14:00 on Wednesday.

All in all, Sharks sounds the best bet as far as younger, prettier girls go, bar bad luck, but the problem with Sharks for me is that I can't seem to find a decent and cheap accommodation nearby even on Sunday or Monday. As I won't be driving, I need such a place nearby. I have reserved a hotel near Oase for 50 E per night, but I now guess it's because my reservation is on Sunday and Monday.

So, my plan right now may be to try to go to Oase on Sunday. The earliest I can get there is 15:00, which I guess is not bad. There is a bus stop a few hundred meters form Oase across a stream. I hope the little bridge is still there, lol. Oase is the one I most often frequented, so I might just go back there also for nostalgia.

I'm not sure what to do in Monday, though. I could possible just go back to Oase and relax all day without getting a girl. 65 E includes lunch and dinner, so not too bad.

"Which one is you?" Haha, all I need is just one young, pretty girl![/QUOTE]Entry is 50 at Sharks on Sunday before 2 pm. 65 at Oase. Entry 50 on Wednesday for both. Much less girls at Oase on Sunday and Monday.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2998150]Shark's website says 50 E on Wednesday, but is it Sunday?[/QUOTE]The Sharks website also says: "Sundays: Until 2 pm only 50 , from 2 pm to 2 am 65 , from 2 am 40 ".

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2998150]All in all, Sharks sounds the best bet as far as younger, prettier girls go[/QUOTE]Good point. Any club in Frankfurt will have a young girl or three, but on a normal day Sharks wins hands down on the pure number of pyt.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;2998150]I'm not sure what to do in Monday, though. I could possible just go back to Oase and relax all day without getting a girl. 65 E includes lunch and dinner, so not too bad.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have the right mindset. Keep it realistic. Staying in the Oase garden on a warm sunny Monday is not the worst you can do. Work on your tan, relax in the sun, have a dip in the pool. Maybe a sauna. Bring a book. The casting will be nothing to talk about (you need to rely on a little bit of luck to find what you are looking for), but eventually you will find your pyt, though you may have to wait until after 8 pm.

Be sure to have a plan B for a cold rainy day.

Sorry I cannot help you with a cheap accommodation in Darmstadt (never stayed there). Maybe someone else can chime in?

[QUOTE=Shark16;2998249]The Sharks website also says: "Sundays: Until 2 pm only 50 , from 2 pm to 2 am 65 , from 2 am 40 ".

Good point. Any club in Frankfurt will have a young girl or three, but on a normal day Sharks wins hands down on the pure number of pyt.

Yes, you have the right mindset. Keep it realistic. Staying in the Oase garden on a warm sunny Monday is not the worst you can do. Work on your tan, relax in the sun, have a dip in the pool. Maybe a sauna. Bring a book. The casting will be nothing to talk about (you need to rely on a little bit of luck to find what you are looking for), but eventually you will find your pyt, though you may have to wait until after 8 pm.

Be sure to have a plan B for a cold rainy day.

Sorry I cannot help you with a cheap accommodation in Darmstadt (never stayed there). Maybe someone else can chime in?[/QUOTE]I prefer my white leather with V8 making me hard, but hotel Dormero close to Sharks. On Sunday and Monday, especially on Monday, real risk with Oase casting. Better to visit on Friday and Saturday and after 9 pm, even a pretty snow white on day team.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2998249]The Sharks website also says: "Sundays: Until 2 pm only 50 , from 2 pm to 2 am 65 , from 2 am 40 ".

Good point. Any club in Frankfurt will have a young girl or three, but on a normal day Sharks wins hands down on the pure number of pyt.

Yes, you have the right mindset. Keep it realistic. Staying in the Oase garden on a warm sunny Monday is not the worst you can do. Work on your tan, relax in the sun, have a dip in the pool. Maybe a sauna. Bring a book. The casting will be nothing to talk about (you need to rely on a little bit of luck to find what you are looking for), but eventually you will find your pyt, though you may have to wait until after 8 pm.

Be sure to have a plan B for a cold rainy day.

Sorry I cannot help you with a cheap accommodation in Darmstadt (never stayed there). Maybe someone else can chime in?[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Dormero and the place right next door to the train station, both adequate.

Hello guys.

Will be visiting the Frankfurt area soon on a pretty slow day.

I like young Natural Stunners, not too much silicone.

Is Sharks the place to be over Oase.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2999730]Hello guys.

Will be visiting the Frankfurt area soon on a pretty slow day.

I like young Natural Stunners, not too much silicone.

Is Sharks the place to be over Oase.[/QUOTE]Sharks have most numerous girls on any day and some new arrive often.

Haven't been since pre-COVID.

I take it golden time / living room / dolce vita all closed.

Aca gold in Ratingen still around.

What about Aca in Velbert? Any other clubs still around?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TransAtlantic;3000310]Haven't been since pre-COVID.

I take it golden time / living room / dolce vita all closed.

Aca gold in Ratingen still around.

What about Aca in Velbert? Any other clubs still around?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Times changed, but still many clubs where can find some pretties in NRW: Magnum, Penelope, Gold, Prime Velbert, sauna club Venus, Freude, I don t know level for Oceans / Golden Time. Also Sixens and YY on border and around Frankfurt, but more expensive.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3000328]Times changed, but still many clubs where can find some pretties in NRW: Magnum, Penelope, Gold, Prime Velbert, sauna club Venus, Freude, I don t know level for Oceans / Golden Time. Also Sixens and YY on border and around Frankfurt, but more expensive.[/QUOTE]SAMYA is the best in NRW region.

[QUOTE=Long420;3000881]SAMYA is the best in NRW region.[/QUOTE]I listed around Dusseldorf where is Velbert, but I don t agree, unfortunately Samya really fell for quality for looks and foods, when entry increased. In NRW and around, Sixens should have best casting when all girls will be back from Easter. Magnum use to have real pretties, but a bit complicated about rate, better to use your charm. Less expensive and much better foods at Samya and Sixens than Samya.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3001519]I listed around Dusseldorf where is Velbert, but I don t agree, unfortunately Samya really fell for quality for looks and foods, when entry increased. In NRW and around, Sixens should have best casting when all girls will be back from Easter. Magnum use to have real pretties, but a bit complicated about rate, better to use your charm. Less expensive and much better foods at Samya and Sixens than Samya.[/QUOTE]My mistake: Better foods for HH 40 at Magnum than for now 60 at Samya. Even at Penelope for 35 , diner is better and I didn t see Rebeka or Amy looks at Samya. Pity, when was so good in past, quality fell at Samya with now entry 60 . Only showers improved. Pity when staff is still nice. Seem less clients now.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3001747]My mistake: Better foods for HH 40 at Magnum than for now 60 at Samya. Even at Penelope for 35 , diner is better and I didn t see Rebeka or Amy looks at Samya. Pity, when was so good in past, quality fell at Samya with now entry 60 . Only showers improved. Pity when staff is still nice. Seem less clients now.[/QUOTE]Samya has a far better Food than Magnum. Magnum is bigger and have a swimming pool other than that samya stands out in lineup and prices.

[QUOTE=Long420;3002023]Samya has a far better Food than Magnum. Magnum is bigger and have a swimming pool other than that samya stands out in lineup and prices.[/QUOTE]You should really visit both. No comparison for foods and some prettier at Magnum and Penelope than what I saw on a Friday night at Samya where less crowded than before. Pity for Samya fall, also with best rooms closed except number 1 with round bed.

I'll be reading the comments here and also checking Freiercafe for the next five weeks as I am returning for some days (Saturday to Tuesday) before I travel down to Nuremburg. While I am around I am going to check Aca Gold at least. Thinking about Babylon, Ying Yang, Penelope. I am looking for good quality at a fair price, €100 is fair if the service is good.

Seems like I should cross off Samya and replace it with Magnum. Amari may be worth checking.

Sky is off my list as I went there last year and it had gotten even more run down in ten years and had only one latina that I was willing to go with. Prime is still not great. PHG is poor, Finca Erotica is too far for my liking.

[QUOTE=Downandup;3002172]I'll be reading the comments here and also checking Freiercafe for the next five weeks as I am returning for some days (Saturday to Tuesday) before I travel down to Nuremburg. While I am around I am going to check Aca Gold at least. Thinking about Babylon, Ying Yang, Penelope. I am looking for good quality at a fair price, 100 is fair if the service is good.

Seems like I should cross off Samya and replace it with Magnum. Amari may be worth checking.

Sky is off my list as I went there last year and it had gotten even more run down in ten years and had only one latina that I was willing to go with. Prime is still not great. PHG is poor, Finca Erotica is too far for my liking.[/QUOTE]Magnum have pretties, but if HH 40 before 6 pm, with quite good foods and warm swimming pool, also quite complicated for rates with girls. Quite dead before 7 pm and forget FK for only 100 with really pretty. I would advice Penelope before 7 pm or Sixsens on Saturday, Sixens on Sunday, Gold or else on Monday and Tuesday which are slow days. YY only worth if You know some girls, like my GG Russian who did welcome me and when now complicated time in FKK since my return from ski, I was really happy to have a new on top of Globe level room with her. But very average casting at the moment at YY. Else than her, I would probably not have room for my fifth visit. HH 50 before noon at 6 sens and good foods, good SPA and swimming pool, 70/80/30 for girls now. Entry 35 before 7 pm on Saturday and 50/60/30 for girls at Penelope. 50/30 at Gold, but I find Penelope on higher level and for foods and garden with swimming pool. Prime may also worth a visit, seem to improve a bit and swimming pool, maybe to relax on Tuesday, or pizzas on Monday. Unfortunately, Samya is not at its best for entry now 60 , when used to be really good before covid for 50 . Babylon is not for wow pretties since a while, Sky is for uglies. Amari should not play in first league. When Monday and Tuesday are slow days and wasting money risk when You need pretties, even at Sharks, my advice is: if You fall in love, ask your beloved if she works on these days and take appointment. She should be happy and welcoming when usually slow business days. Not best time around Easter and still on last week end, even beginning of month, but can sometimes still find few really pretty and on really good level for maximum 100/30 and 150/60 in NRW and NL. More complicated now in Hessen, even can still find few good ones for 100/30 . More complicated for 150 for 1 really GFE hour now in Hessen.

Hey everyone,

I will visit Germany in June and it always has been a dream of mine to be part of Bukkake. To be honest I can't really find a lot of information in the internet and I want to ask, what places would you recommend for that?

I am in Germany on June 13th and June 21-24.

I really appreciate your help.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3002182]still find few really pretty and on really good level for maximum 100/30 and 150/60 in NRW and NL. More complicated now in Hessen, even can still find few good ones for 100/30 . More complicated for 150 for 1 really GFE hour now in Hessen.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sirioja. That was the post I was looking for.

[QUOTE=Iceberg27;3003225]Thanks Sirioja. That was the post I was looking for.[/QUOTE]NRW and NL are less expensive than Hessen. Penelope is best value for money, with some pretties and some good levels for 50/60/30. Today, I was happy to read my great Russian asked 200/60 for GFE at GG, when I paid 150 for our more than 20 rooms, so I saved more than 1000 and enjoyed her really high quality, paying me back about few bad rooms waste of money I got with few girls. But, we are not all equal in FKK and Sharks is perfect example now, where I like to play my good game. Best potential for me on this year, trying to get 100/40 with full GFE.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3003257]NRW and NL are less expensive than Hessen. Penelope is best value for money, with some pretties and some good levels for 50/60/30. Today, I was happy to read my great Russian asked 200/60 for GFE at GG, when I paid 150 for our more than 20 rooms, so I saved more than 1000 and enjoyed her really high quality, paying me back about few bad rooms waste of money I got with few girls. But, we are not all equal in FKK and Sharks is perfect example now, where I like to play my good game. Best potential for me on this year, trying to get 100/40 with full GFE.[/QUOTE]I can still see my regulars for 150.

50 euro will not get you too far in life.

It costs more than 50 euro to drive to GG.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3003257] Best potential for me on this year, trying to get 100/40 with full GFE.[/QUOTE]Waiting for a report from Siri about that 100/40 with GFE in coming days.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3005517]Waiting for a report from Siri about that 100/40 with GFE in coming days.[/QUOTE]I got at Sharks and Oase. On this Friday at Sharks, 100/30+ for a really enjoyable room with a woman type on her first day. She was so fresh for sex.

Has anyone ever attempted BJ only with the girls for less than the normal 1/2 hour Full service price? Say 15–20 min BBBJ till completion for 50€. Also how hard to get a girl to just chill in the jacuzzi? Would you need to pay her for that?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;3005719]Has anyone ever attempted BJ only with the girls for less than the normal 1/2 hour Full service price? Say 1520 min BBBJ till completion for 50. Also how hard to get a girl to just chill in the jacuzzi? Would you need to pay her for that?[/QUOTE]Unlikely. You might save a few Euros in the porno theatre of the smaller clubs but once you say "to completion in the mouth" you'll pay more than even the basic 30 in many clubs! Are you a really nice guy. Extremely handsome? A regular! Is the club empty. She might chill in the hot tub especially if you promise her to pay for a full hour after!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;3005719]Has anyone ever attempted BJ only with the girls for less than the normal 1/2 hour Full service price? Say 1520 min BBBJ till completion for 50. Also how hard to get a girl to just chill in the jacuzzi? Would you need to pay her for that?[/QUOTE]Try to use your charm, You will see if girls offer You. Versus upselling, now I don t ask about services to girls who attract me, not many girls, but I evaluate their behavior and reactions when I talk to them and take risk if I desire them. Then, in bed, I work on them and it works quite good for me, having really good rooms with no rush for 100 at Sharks and Oase. Less expensive in NRW. Inflation made me adapting with new strategy with girls. A bit less relaxing than when having 1 hour in NRW for 100/150 , but I still get high quality with beauties. Til 2021 , my standard was 100/60 with GFE, now, my standard in Hessen is 100 for 30+/40 with GFE. I still enjoy, but I don t behave to be fucked like a tourist.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;3005719]Has anyone ever attempted BJ only with the girls for less than the normal 1/2 hour Full service price? Say 1520 min BBBJ till completion for 50. Also how hard to get a girl to just chill in the jacuzzi? Would you need to pay her for that?[/QUOTE]Not a chance. Cartel rules and pricing floors apply here. Any provider seen to be undercutting the agreed upon floor pricing is ostracized. It is no different in sex work.

on your second question. Girls prefer to avoid getting their hair wet or having to redo their make-up. That's why CIF is also rare in clubs. Most of them also think it's unhygienic.

Some girls go to foreplay in jacuzzi, some proposed me when I was in, but not sure their time spent in jacuzzi would be for free. I only pay for time for sex.

I'm back after a long time since my rehab.

I'm planning to travel from Thursday to Saturday this week, and I'm wondering where is the best place to go lately? (I'll be using public transportation).

The most recent place I visited was Samya, and when I rated the girls appearance:

2 years ago, Sharks: 7 - 8 /10.

Late last year, Samya: 6. 5 - 7. 8.

2 years ago, Acapulco Gold: 5. 5 - 7 (but the price was cheap, so the satisfaction was high).

How do other establishments compare in terms of appearance these days? And price?

Also, does anyone know about erotic massage spots? The shops in Prague had excellent prices and services. If anyone here can recommend a shop or a country with great spots, please let me know!

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3005824]..... That's why CIF is also rare in clubs. Most of them also think it's unhygienic.[/QUOTE]I would think for the right price they will accept CIF probably for even less than CIM.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3005907]I would think for the right price they will accept CIF probably for even less than CIM.[/QUOTE]CIF entails a make-up redo therefore girls prefer to earn their extras with CIM which only entails mouthwash.

A clarification on my previous post. When I said girls think it's unhygienic, I was referring to jacuzzis not CIF. I must have hastily mistyped. Although I hear that jizz in the eye is also pretty bad

[QUOTE=Turgid;3005907]I would think for the right price they will accept CIF probably for even less than CIM.[/QUOTE]No, girls prefer to provide CIM than CIF killing make up and hair.

My FKK trip starts from June 25 Wednesday to 29 Sunday. 25th evening I reach Dusseldorf and planning to visit Magnum. Second day Thursaday planning to vist ACA Gold. Friday to Aachen Six Sense. Saturday to Penalope. Sunday morning return to Paris. Wish to get guidance from Veterans on my days plan. Any help will always be appreciated.
Wish to visit Happy Garden instead of Magnum or ACA Gold.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3005748] but I don t behave to be fucked like a tourist.[/QUOTE]Usually I visit club early as I'm a tourist monger. I love to watch girls for couple of hours before I go for a session. If the club is interesting I stay there till Sunset. In between go out and see the places nearby in bus. As a travelar and stay only very few days I enjoy the country sides too. Late in the evening go for another session on my my mood and the attitude of girls. After that will have couple of drinks and come back to room after 12 night. I like the long day lights in Summer along with the Club. Visiting Germany only for FKKs and I love that ambience. Never had got that type of atmosphere around the world even I miss GFEs. GFE I can get from a lot of places I travel. He he.

Long live FKKs.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3006038]My FKK trip starts from June 25 Wednesday to 29 Sunday. 25th evening I reach Dusseldorf and planning to visit Magnum. Second day Thursaday planning to vist ACA Gold. Friday to Aachen Six Sense. Saturday to Penalope. Sunday morning return to Paris. Wish to get guidance from Veterans on my days plan. Any help will always be appreciated.
Wish to visit Happy Garden instead of Magnum or ACA Gold.[/QUOTE]Your planning is good for Friday at 6 sens stuck to Aachen with HH 50 before noon. Maybe I would visit Gold on Wednesday evening, because no outdoor and a bit boring to spend whole day, then Penelope with garden with swimming pool, sauna and better foods on Thursday, but have to stay till after 8 pm, when a night club. For Saturday, if you like woman types rather than little girls, why not high quality YY Roermond with HH before 1 pm, or Golden gate if reopened? Or Magnum opening at 3 pm, HH 40 till 6 pm, but really waking up at 8 pm, but heated swimming pool, sauna and quite good foods to enjoy in afternoon. Enjoy your tour, I meant, even being a foreigner, but I don t play tourist with girls, but try to get the most, quite often over time, for the less expensive, from my behavior to treat them. Playing for 100 at Sharks, versus upselling, my good game. Magnum can be expensive for girls. At YY, not many pretties, but few high levels and not only Romanians, but Germans and NL. Let s see if GG will reopen? Then I would be so happy to enjoy high level Russia in beautiful garden for third Summer.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3006056]Your planning is good for Friday at 6 sens stuck to Aachen with HH 50 before noon. Maybe I would visit Gold on Wednesday evening, because no outdoor and a bit boring to spend whole day, then Penelope with garden with swimming pool, sauna and better foods on Thursday, but have to stay till after 8 pm, when a night club. For Saturday, if you like woman types rather than little girls, why not high quality YY Roermond with HH before 1 pm, or Golden gate if reopened? Or Magnum opening at 3 pm, HH 40 till 6 pm, but really waking up at 8 pm, but heated swimming pool, sauna and quite good foods to enjoy in afternoon. Enjoy your tour, I meant, even being a foreigner, but I don t play tourist with girls, but try to get the most, quite often over time, for the less expensive, from my behavior to treat them. Playing for 100 at Sharks, versus upselling, my good game. Magnum can be expensive for girls. At YY, not many pretties, but few high levels and not only Romanians, but Germans and NL. Let s see if GG will reopen? Then I would be so happy to enjoy high level Russia in beautiful garden for third Summer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that suggestion. Start the evening on Wednesday in ACA Gold, Thursday in Magnum, Friday in Six sense and Saturday in Penlalope. As depending on public transport, YY is too far for me. I love ladies more than girls.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3006283]Thanks for that suggestion. Start the evening on Wednesday in ACA Gold, Thursday in Magnum, Friday in Six sense and Saturday in Penlalope. As depending on public transport, YY is too far for me. I love ladies more than girls.[/QUOTE]This is Penelope, which is brother with Gold. HH 35 before 7 pm on Saturday. Seem foods are improving a bit at Gold, if You can arrive before 8 pm. HH 50 before noon at 6 sens and usually good breakfast. Magnum only open at 3 pm, foods at 4 pm and HH 40 before 6 pm.

I m always surprised some who went with really pretties before, but go now for so uglies, sometimes even paying more expensive now for uglies. Maybe covid made them becoming blind and losing taste. I m not desperate for sex to fall so down for bad quality, so bad looks, but maybe because of age, I need now higher level than before for image and behavior, to feel excited. I find few for my expectation and then, I work to make them behaving enjoyable for me and not upselling, my tip being to drive from far to repeat. I still find high quality and only pay for quality in my life. I don t buy shit chinese products and feel so disappointed about new but electric Challenger ex Charger.

Recently, I went on a long FKK spree: 4 days in Sharks, 2 days in Oase, 2 days in Acapulco Gold (including a night in Sky Wuppertal), 2 days in Villa Venus (including an afternoon at Freude 39), and 1 day in Yin Yang. (I only choose clubs easily accessible by public transport. I had to abort a planned evening in Arabella, as there were severe train disruptions on that day due to a blockage in one of the train routes, and I stayed in my Duisburg hotel that evening to avoid the risk of being stranded.)

I would have written this summary earlier had the website not been accessible for many days.

Bear in mind that I go for slim (preferably petite) girls with good GFE, so those with other tastes would certainly have different views. My experiences were as follows:

Most enjoyable club: Sharks. As always, there were plentiful slim girls to choose from, and they all had their important parts exposed, if not fully naked. New top discovery for me was Annie from Spain. She has my ideal body, very pretty smile, and such an entrancing character. Other new girls I tried were Daniella (very high GFE) and Ella (tall pretty blonde). My usual favourites were present, and 2 favourites who left previously had returned: Maira and Anda. My days and nights in Sharks were thus totally filled and left a big hole in my pocket.

Least enjoyable clubs: Freude39 and Oase. Freude 39 has been very nicely renovated; but I could not find a single girl to my liking, and abandoned it for Villa Venus. Oase was a disaster. The girls were now 100% covered up. A large proportion was siliconised and with goldfish lips. All my favourite petite girls: Bianca, Nadia, Isabella, Stephanie and Mira were missing (later, I found Mira in Sharks, now called Michaela). Had zero rooms in Oase those 2 days.

Best value: Acapulco Gold. Because it is still only 100 Euros for 60 minutes, for quality equivalent to Sharks. Best find was Micki with perfect petite body and very pretty smile, and good English.

Villa Venus: Found one of my favourites from pre-Corona Freude, Eda now in Villa Venus (still called Eda). Had good times also with 2 new finds: Madelina and Alexa.

Most beautiful club: Yin Yang, stylishly renovated with nice view of woods outside. Unfortunately, the girls did not fit my specs (except for 1 slim, pretty, black girl who I could not get hold of). Spent a relaxing day there enjoying the ambiance and the food.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3006827]
Best value: Acapulco Gold. Because it is still only 100 Euros for 60 minutes, for quality equivalent to Sharks[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report and confirming what I suspected, that Sharks doesn't have better quality than Acapulco Gold.

I would not personally try getting to Yin Yang or Oase on public transport, you clearly know how to read bus timetables!

Getting to Ying Yang is quite easy, and reasonably priced. I have done it many times over the past years.

Take one of the Intercity trains from Amsterdam (or Utrecht) to Roermond. Any of the trains going to Maastricht will stop there, and there will be a few every hour.

From the Roermond train station, there are 2 public buses that would bring you to the Melick JFKennedy stop, which is about 15 minutes straight walk along the main road to Yin Yang. Average wait for one of the buses is about 15 minutes.

Cost of a day return ticket from Amsterdam to Roermond is about 50 Euros. Which is not much more than the about 36 Euros C Region day ticket that I buy at Duisburg or Dusseldorf covering most of the red carpet clubs.

For those interested in the latest public transport costs:

To get the Sharks from Frankfurt - day return ticket is 21 Euros. This includes the R Bus that stops outside Sharks. So, total is 21 Euros.

To get to Sharks from Frankfurt airport - Airliner price has gone up to 10.40 euros.

To get to Oase from Frankfurt - day return S5 ticket is 13 Euros to Friedrichsdorf station. From there, it is 15 Euros for taxi each way to Oase. So, total of 43 Euros.

Curious about FKK clubs:

How long can the visitors stay inside the club?

If someone goes for multiple sessions. And need to take a nap in between. Do these clubs have a sleep room or hotel on site?

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;3006941]Thank you for your report and confirming what I suspected, that Sharks doesn't have better quality than Acapulco Gold.

I would not personally try getting to Yin Yang or Oase on public transport, you clearly know how to read bus timetables![/QUOTE]Acapulco Gold is lower level than its brother Penelope and really lower level than Sharks. I think he just meant Gold is good value for money for 50/30 but no GFE, when many Sharks girls ask too expensive for their real value, but average foods, almost no breakfast nor FK, no garden nor jacuzzi at Gold, when sex without FK is much lower level for me. Gold mostly worth if You want cheap, but not if You want high quality. Unfortunately now quite average diner on 2025 , but if You are able, You can find at Sharks best Globe level with prettier girls than at Globe for 100/30+ and they will welcome You to repeat few hours later. You just have to be able to find the few good ones among quantity at Sharks, but not so difficult if You know a bit women and then, Sharks is far higher quality than Gold. Same for few girls at Oase and YY, when comparing YY and Gold is just ridiculous, like comparing Western European and Chinese products. I just agree Gold can be good value for money for 50/30 if You are not too demanding for club, even some rooms are not too bad, better than at Globe, but average foods and level of sex and Penelope is higher level for foods, club and sex, when I prefer to spend for quality. As I wrote, some who went for quality, now pay for much lower, when I m not able, when I need higher quality for my aging libido. For sure, better to have a car to reach Oase and YY in middle of nowhere, and also probably Penelope, when Gold is close to airport. Spending a whole day at Gold would be quite boring and frustrating on sunny Summer. Gardens with swimming pool at Penelope, Prime ex Acapulco Velbert, sauna club Venus, YY, 6 sens, Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan. Patio with heated swimming pool at Magnum with HH entry 40 and much better foods than at Gold with entry 35 . Each one own standards for quality, of course.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3006827]Recently, I went on a long FKK spree: 4 days in Sharks, 2 days in Oase, 2 days in Acapulco Gold (including a night in Sky Wuppertal), 2 days in Villa Venus (including an afternoon at Freude 39), and 1 day in Yin Yang. (I only choose clubs easily accessible by public transport. I had to abort a planned evening in Arabella, as there were severe train disruptions on that day due to a blockage in one of the train routes, and I stayed in my Duisburg hotel that evening to avoid the risk of being stranded.)

I would have written this summary earlier had the website not been accessible for many days.

Bear in mind that I go for slim (preferably petite) girls with good GFE, so those with other tastes would certainly have different views. My experiences were as follows:

Most enjoyable club: Sharks. As always, there were plentiful slim girls to choose from, and they all had their important parts exposed, if not fully naked. New top discovery for me was Annie from Spain. She has my ideal body, very pretty smile, and such an entrancing character. Other new girls I tried were Daniella (very high GFE) and Ella (tall pretty blonde). My usual favourites were present, and 2 favourites who left previously had returned: Maira and Anda. My days and nights in Sharks were thus totally filled and left a big hole in my pocket.

Least enjoyable clubs: Freude39 and Oase. Freude 39 has been very nicely renovated; but I could not find a single girl to my liking, and abandoned it for Villa Venus. Oase was a disaster. The girls were now 100% covered up. A large proportion was siliconised and with goldfish lips. All my favourite petite girls: Bianca, Nadia, Isabella, Stephanie and Mira were missing (later, I found Mira in Sharks, now called Michaela). Had zero rooms in Oase those 2 days.

Best value: Acapulco Gold. Because it is still only 100 Euros for 60 minutes, for quality equivalent to Sharks. Best find was Micki with perfect petite body and very pretty smile, and good English.

Villa Venus: Found one of my favourites from pre-Corona Freude, Eda now in Villa Venus (still called Eda). Had good times also with 2 new finds: Madelina and Alexa.

Most beautiful club: Yin Yang, stylishly renovated with nice view of woods outside. Unfortunately, the girls did not fit my specs (except for 1 slim, pretty, black girl who I could not get hold of). Spent a relaxing day there enjoying the ambiance and the food.[/QUOTE]What the girls asking for at Sharks? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Akibono;3007033]What the girls asking for at Sharks? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Varies from girl to girl and from customer to customer, as you can read from this and the sharks threads. But minimum is 100 euros for 30 minutes. For 60 minutes, minimum is 150 euros.

[QUOTE=WestValMonger;3006956]Curious about FKK clubs:

How long can the visitors stay inside the club?

If someone goes for multiple sessions. And need to take a nap in between. Do these clubs have a sleep room or hotel on site?[/QUOTE]Wellcum. At have hotel and You can take girls to your room if they accept. In some clubs, resting room where girls can t go. You can arrive on opening and leave at closing and fuck as much You are able. I prefer quality than quantity.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3007045]Varies from girl to girl and from customer to customer, as you can read from this and the sharks threads. But minimum is 100 euros for 30 minutes. For 60 minutes, minimum is 150 euros.[/QUOTE]Yes, most of best ones work GFE for 100/30 if You are not a tourist in mind, but if You are not a long time client, should be now quite complicated to find GFE with a pretty for 150/60 , but more 200/60 , if she is not in love, or maybe with not pretty nor busy. But 150/60 or less is easy in NRW, not at Magnum. But too many pay really crazy at Sharks with only average levels. Only few good values among sometimes more than 100 , at Sharks.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3007045]Varies from girl to girl and from customer to customer, as you can read from this and the sharks threads. But minimum is 100 euros for 30 minutes. For 60 minutes, minimum is 150 euros.[/QUOTE]But don't the majority of girls ask 200/60 with very few girls willing to accept 150/60?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3006987]Acapulco Gold is lower level than its brother Penelope and really lower level than Sharks.......[/QUOTE]What is the average number of girls at Acapulco Gold?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007057]But don't the majority of girls ask 200/60 with very few girls willing to accept 150/60?[/QUOTE]If you do without DFK, about half will agree to 150/60 after some bargaining, and if they see you as a potential repeat customer.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007059]What is the average number of girls at Acapulco Gold?[/QUOTE]Less than at Sharks or Penelope and depend on day. I would say around 40 on Friday and Saturday, when around 100 at Sharks, but quantity don t mean quality. I prefer only 1 top rather than 100 average. I often left Sharks or Globe or GT Bruggen with full balls. Paying 150 for low level sex is too expensive for low quality for me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007057]But don't the majority of girls ask 200/60 with very few girls willing to accept 150/60?[/QUOTE]You should not find a pretty for GFE for 150/60, when many ask 150/30 now and not even high levels. I think only if you know since long time and she really wants to keep you for very regular. Many guys were asked more expensive, even they knew the girls. 100/30 is still possible with most of best ones and you will receive from what you are.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007057]But don't the majority of girls ask 200/60 with very few girls willing to accept 150/60?[/QUOTE]Lots of girls will accept 150 E /60. Not hard at all. If you are happy with CBJ / CFS.

Do not forget that the new generation of mongers never have experienced the good old times when BBBJ / DATY / Kissing always were included in the price. Thus they do not comprehend the discussions among vets on this board.

Keep it real. There is a lot more upselling today than on your last visit more than five years ago.

TT is spot on. Skip kissing if you are not a DFK fundamentalist, and the options are many. 200 E /60 is widely accepted among the hottest girls with fairly good performance. 150 E /60 too if you work a little for it.

As a regular client to some of the girls I'd say that I can find top GFE sessions for 150 E /60 among some of the hottest girls with as much DFK as I want. Asking girls new to me about the same is a totally different story.

Beware: I can confirm Siriojas observations that there are also girls around who will shamelessly quote 200- 250 E /60 for CBJ / CFS. I kid you not!! In my experience you will find these girls mostly at Palace and Mainhattan, but they do also exist at Sharks and Oase. In particular if they see you as an easy target without a clue about what you are doing.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007080]Lots of girls will accept 150 E /60. Not hard at all. If you are happy with CBJ / CFS.

Do not forget that the new generation of mongers never have experienced the good old times when BBBJ / DATY / Kissing always were included in the price. Thus they do not comprehend the discussions among vets on this board.

Keep it real. There is a lot more upselling today than on your last visit more than five years ago.

TT is spot on. Skip kissing if you are not a DFK fundamentalist, and the options are many. 200 E /60 is widely accepted among the hottest girls with fairly good performance. 150 E /60 too if you work a little for it.

As a regular client to some of the girls I'd say that I can find top GFE sessions for 150 E /60 among some of the hottest girls with as much DFK as I want. Asking girls new to me about the same is a totally different story.

Beware: I can confirm Siriojas observations that there are also girls around who will shamelessly quote 200- 250 E /60 for CBJ / CFS. I kid you not!! In my experience you will find these girls mostly at Palace and Mainhattan, but they do also exist at Sharks and Oase. In particular if they see you as an easy target without a clue about what you are doing.[/QUOTE]No, at Sharks, only few will now accept 150/60 , even without FK and for sure not prettiest nor busiest. Maybe Sylvana or old NL?

What will be the average number of girls can be expected from Thursday to Sunday in following clubs after 7 in the evening.

Magnum, ACA Gold, Sixsense, Penalope and Sky.

From the reports Sky will be having minimum numbers and only Latinas.

And which club will be having maximum number of girls in NRW area?

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3007219]What will be the average number of girls can be expected from Thursday to Sunday in following clubs after 7 in the evening.

Magnum, ACA Gold, Sixsense, Penalope and Sky.

From the reports Sky will be having minimum numbers and only Latinas.

And which club will be having maximum number of girls in NRW area?[/QUOTE]6 sens will have 50/60 on Friday and Saturday, Magnum and Penelope around 40/50 and Gold around 40 . Friday and Saturday are 2 best casting days, Thursday is usually not bad in these clubs. On Friday and Saturday, sometimes 100 at Sharks, 40/50 at Oase. Quantity don t mean quality, when not so many at Sharks worth rate they ask, but few are higher level than most Globe girls, for look and in bed, for 100 . For who look for 150/60 , I would not advice Sharks, but NRW where can find better quality for 100/150 for 1 hour. NRW is better value for money than Hessen. My best value for quality is very few at YY for 70/30 and for money, very few at Penelope for 50/60/30.150/60 for only CBJ and sex would be real waste of money for me. But, from where we are from and what we are, we don t have same standards, when I don t pay for not pretties, when I m not excited if the look doesn t impress me and sex without FK is low quality for me and CBJ or HJ are killing libido for me. I m not kind of to pay for CIM with CBJ, some pay for.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007139]No, at Sharks, only few will now accept 150/60 , even without FK and for sure not prettiest nor busiest. Maybe Sylvana or old NL?[/QUOTE]It is reputed that Sylvana's BBBJ's are exceptional. Even so I am not interested as I incorporate optics into the enjoyment of my BBBJs. The problem I have with paying 200/60 for the hottest girls is that sometimes the hottest girls provide less enjoyable service than the not so hot babes. I would hate to spend EUR200 for bad service. I would probably be better off spending 150/60 with not so hot ladies but getting good service even without DFK. However, CBJ would be a bummer but I would definitely have to lower my expectations from 5 years ago.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007080]Do not forget that the new generation of mongers never have experienced the good old times when BBBJ / DATY / Kissing always were included in the price. Thus they do not comprehend the discussions among vets on this board.

As a regular client to some of the girls I'd say that I can find top GFE sessions for 150 E /60 among some of the hottest girls with as much DFK as I want. Asking girls new to me about the same is a totally different story. [/QUOTE]There's a certain logic in the first paragraph. We all talk about "back when" but I'd say the core of the discussion hinges on repeat business vs one offs.

If your face is known it's obvious girls will hope to get you for a fair price. If you're walking through as a new visitor why not ask for the higher price. It's simple sales tactics. You go anywhere where prices are negotiated. If they know you you expect a lower "better" price or more services / goods for you buck.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007299]It is reputed that Sylvana's BBBJ's are exceptional. Even so I am not interested as I incorporate optics into the enjoyment of my BBBJs. The problem I have with paying 200/60 for the hottest girls is that sometimes the hottest girls provide less enjoyable service than the not so hot babes. I would hate to spend EUR200 for bad service. I would probably be better off spending 150/60 with not so hot ladies but getting good service even without DFK. However, CBJ would be a bummer but I would definitely have to lower my expectations from 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]Granny marathon woman superwoman Sylvana, legend all over Germany. Never half of Sharks casting will accept 150/60 and for sure not the prettiest, busiest. Good point at Sharks is most best ones are not the most expensive and most of most expensive are not the best, so, quite easy to choose if your eyes and brain are working. Can have high quality with few for 100/30, when CBJ, HJ and no FK are low quality for sex. Better to visit on best times, then to choose best ones and make and enjoy quality on best of Globe level, for look and GFE. Before, my standard was 100/60 for GFE, now my standard is GFE for 100 with no rush, working on girls I choose. Only 1 at Sharks worth 200/60 for me, compare to escorts. On this year, I already had 15 really good rooms at Sharks, not so bad, even only 7 are on my standards and only 5 worth I drive from so far to repeat. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I evaluate girls while introduction, then choose if I take risk, when I don't ask about services, not to hear about upselling, then I work my best to make quality I expect and enjoy. Just easy. For standard 150/60, Sharks won't be best quality, when most girls I choose, let me play my game for 100 and not upselling. My experience with about 20 visits on this year, leaving full balls on some. Little Romanians should not be able for my level.

One guy at an FKK once asked me if it's OK that hot sexy women have sex with ugly men. I didn't know what to answer.

But now I have concluded: all men are ugly, and that has been part of our evolution since the dawn of time. Men actually get more masculine as we age. Peak is between 30-55 years old.

What all women instinctively want is to be slutty, and to have sex traded for money. Since all men are ugly, women do want a man with muscles, but aside from that they mainly want money traded for sex. This is true for every woman on the planet. But women also can have multiple orgasms, so they can have more sex than men. More often, and thus they don't require nor want much money traded for sex. Actually they want it to be cheap. They don't want to be exclusive. Exclusive means less sex, and they all want a lot of sex.

So the conclusion is that we must make all women into sluts. Abolish marriages worldwide. Create a new system of mass producing the best kids (mainly perfect females), and turn every nightclub in the world into legal brothels.

Some might ask: but what about STD's?

Well, ask the medical people and the big pharmacy and apparently they will tell you that they can now fix all diseases. And at least soon they will be able to. Well, then let them. And force them to also make it free for all. As cheap as water.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3007303]There's a certain logic in the first paragraph. We all talk about "back when" but I'd say the core of the discussion hinges on repeat business vs one offs.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.

I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw.

Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.

If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.

I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw. Service standard/price was part of the "house rules". If she would not provide a standard service (without upsell), she was free to move to another club. Back then discussions about service quality on ISG were basically about kissing with tongue or not, if the BJ included attention to the twins, if the BJ was deep or not, usw.

Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.

If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).[/QUOTE]Sharks was only with maximum 40 girls in 2014 when I discovered. Yes, big inflation since 2022 , when I had many 100/60 with GFE on 2021 reopening. Yes, average level really fell at Sharks with now many small pussies and schoolgirl looks, but since 2021 and on this year, I found some on higher level than most I had before covid, higher level for sex than Megan, Roxana, Florentina. Still some high levels and they are not the most expensive, good point. I adapt to new business.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.

I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw.

Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.

If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).[/QUOTE]OK let's disagree (politely over a beer), I'm saying everything costs more than it did 20,10 even 5 years ago. NOT that the service is worse. You can have the same service, it just costs more.

The airline industry did it by unbundling the luggage and seat options (except for the very best customers). The alternative. At least in the US- was to is reduce the size of a bag of coffee, box of cereal, container of yoghurt but leave the price the same (rather than charge more- "Shrinkflation"- there's certainly a penis joke in there somewhere?

That to me is what has happened at the level of the FKKs, Unbundling. YOu want DATY, pay me extra, but I'll still let you have basic services for the old price.

[QUOTE=Pistons;3007318]One guy at an FKK once asked me if it's OK that hot sexy women have sex with ugly men. I didn't know what to answer.

But now I have concluded: all men are ugly, and that has been part of our evolution since the dawn of time. Men actually get more masculine as we age. Peak is between 30-55 years old.

What all women instinctively want is to be slutty, and to have sex traded for money. Since all men are ugly, women do want a man with muscles, but aside from that they mainly want money traded for sex. This is true for every woman on the planet. But women also can have multiple orgasms, so they can have more sex than men. More often, and thus they don't require nor want much money traded for sex. Actually they want it to be cheap. They don't want to be exclusive. Exclusive means less sex, and they all want a lot of sex.

So the conclusion is that we must make all women into sluts. Abolish marriages worldwide. Create a new system of mass producing the best kids (mainly perfect females), and turn every nightclub in the world into legal brothels.[/QUOTE]Normal women are very different from girls in this business behavior. Girls just starting in this business are also different. Most guys in this business are not best ones. FKK world is not real world.

No more 50/30 at Sharks, except maybe for Balkanians for very fast suck and fuck with not pretties in last half hour. More 50/10 or 15 at 4. 45 am. Maybe, more than 70 yo Sylvana provides for 50 , but would be too expensive for me and killing my libido, when she catch muscular young guys.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007339]Sharks was only with maximum 40 girls in 2014 when I discovered. Yes, big inflation since 2022 , when I had many 100/60 with GFE on 2021 reopening. Yes, average level really fell at Sharks with now many small pussies and schoolgirl looks, but since 2021 and on this year, I found some on higher level than most I had before covid, higher level for sex than Megan, Roxana, Florentina. Still some high levels and they are not the most expensive, good point. I adapt to new business.[/QUOTE]I rank Megan as one of the ten best girls I've had sex with at FKKs. If there are higher levels than her at Sharks now then I think I should come over to Germany this summer.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007477]I rank Megan as one of the ten best girls I've had sex with at FKKs. If there are higher levels than her at Sharks now then I think I should come over to Germany this summer.[/QUOTE]Megan was very pretty and sweet lovely, even once she turned mad about me at Globe, telling: why do you look at me when You don't go with me anymore. Not many, almost none, on her look level most often, among 100 at Sharks except Alex. Ro and 50 at Globe except my Sylvester afternoon discovery, but she was really not on the highest level for sex, even not bad. I had many, since covid, on higher level for sex and I have at least 2 at Sharks on this year and wish a new Romanian will confirm also higher level on our discovery for 100. For me, Megan didn't have level for sex to pay 130€ per 30 and less fresh at Globe where she went after listening to my experiences. Unfortunately, average level for girls and Romanians really fell, but can still find very few who are really high level, even for 100 , but not for 150/60. From where and what we are, we have different demanding level and I m happy to find higher level for sex than Megan, but not often prettier. But I only pay for among prettiest, or I prefer to leave full balls. Good for me is my best are not those asking the most expensive.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3007350]I'm saying everything costs more than it did 20,10 even 5 years ago. NOT that the service is worse. You can have the same service, it just costs more.[/QUOTE]I am starting to feel we are beating a dead horse by now. But anyways:

Everybody can agree the prices have gone up. Not the point. Unbundling / shrinkflation? Absolutely. But your reference to the airline industry is not a good one:

You make it sound like if as long as you pay extras, you are guaranteed to get the service perfectly delivered. This is where we part ways. As many, many others have written before me many services can be given as a basic service without paying an extra. And sometimes a service will not be delivered no matter what you are paying. And no, no need to pay extra money just because she is hot, young, blond, got big boobs, or whatever. Prices can differ from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and sometimes from time to time. For the exact same services with the club's best optics.

I repeat: The going rate for me at Sharks (and most other Frankfurt clubs) is 200 E /60 (and occasionally 150 E /60) for a GFE session (without kinks, but with BJ / DATY / CFS / kissing) with one of the top optics. I may skip kissing if she asks extra for it (those girls are easy to replace anyway). With the airline analogy I would be mislead to believe I would need to pay 250- 300 or more for the same. It is simply not true. Not in my experience anyway.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007527]I am starting to feel we are beating a dead horse by now. But anyways:

Everybody can agree the prices have gone up. Not the point. Unbundling / shrinkflation? Absolutely. But your reference to the airline industry is not a good one:

You make it sound like if as long as you pay extras, you are guaranteed to get the service perfectly delivered. This is where we part ways. As many, many others have written before me many services can be given as a basic service without paying an extra. And sometimes a service will not be delivered no matter what you are paying. And no, no need to pay extra money just because she is hot, young, blond, got big boobs, or whatever. Prices can differ from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and sometimes from time to time. For the exact same services with the club's best optics.

I repeat: The going rate for me at Sharks (and most other Frankfurt clubs) is 200 E /60 (and occasionally 150 E /60) for a GFE session (without kinks, but with BJ / DATY / CFS / kissing) with one of the top optics. I may skip kissing if she asks extra for it (those girls are easy to replace anyway). With the airline analogy I would be mislead to believe I would need to pay 250- 300 or more for the same. It is simply not true. Not in my experience anyway.[/QUOTE]Yes, most best at Sharks ask less expensive than most average ones. Yes, we won't all pay same. Some Asians or tourists and some senile locals pay crazy. I don't think can get high level sex with a really pretty for 150/60 now at Sharks, except if the girl is in love. As I often wrote, don t pay extra for FK, when You will be disappointed by quality and not many are skillful for BJ. Average level really fell, but still high quality can be found. Many girls who ask too expensive for their real value, don t have busy business at Sharks, even on first Saturday of month and often free keys on desk, when girls too expensive rates make club losing business.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007544]I don't think can get high level sex with a really pretty for 150/60 now at Sharks[/QUOTE]Agreed. At least I cannot contradict that statement. Maybe someone else can? I still have a couple of regulars that will, but they work at another Hessen club.

Getting 150 E /60 seemed very hard to get on my last visit to Sharks. You have to give up on something, I believe. Personally I am willing to trade off kissing. I am not willing to trade off good looks (the visuals have to be right). Laufhaus service is neither an option to me.

I would be happy to hear stories from gents who do better than me at Sharks lately.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007566]Agreed. At least I cannot contradict that statement. Maybe someone else can? I still have a couple of regulars that will, but they work at another Hessen club.

Getting 150 E /60 seemed very hard to get on my last visit to Sharks. You have to give up on something, I believe. Personally I am willing to trade off kissing. I am not willing to trade off good looks (the visuals have to be right). Laufhaus service is neither an option to me.

I would be happy to hear stories from gents who do better than me at Sharks lately.[/QUOTE]Even without FK, if You don t know the girl since nineteenth century or she is in love with You or desperate for business or really not pretty, You should not find for 150/60 at Sharks with Romanians agreement, but You can find really good with really pretty for 100 and no rush, after her orgasmus.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007506]Megan was very pretty and sweet lovely, even once she turned mad about me at Globe, telling: why do you look at me when You don't go with me anymore. Not many, almost none, on her look level most often, among 100 at Sharks except Alex. Ro and 50 at Globe except my Sylvester afternoon discovery, but she was really not on the highest level for sex, even not bad. I had many, since covid, on higher level for sex and I have at least 2 at Sharks on this year and wish a new Romanian will confirm also higher level on our discovery for 100. For me, Megan didn't have level for sex to pay 130 per 30 and less fresh at Globe where she went after listening to my experiences. Unfortunately, average level for girls and Romanians really fell, but can still find very few who are really high level, even for 100 , but not for 150/60. From where and what we are, we have different demanding level and I m happy to find higher level for sex than Megan, but not often prettier. But I only pay for among prettiest, or I prefer to leave full balls. Good for me is my best are not those asking the most expensive.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007688]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.[/QUOTE]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks! And definitely nicer than the pimps LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007688]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.[/QUOTE]She was not bad for sex and sweet lovely, but I had many who were higher level for sex. At Sharks, Maria. Ukr was real hurricane on 2022, even too much for me, and same for Italia few weeks ago, I repeated on same day. On this year, I had 15 high level rooms at Sharks, half for 100. I had also at YY with Russia from GG for 150/60. At Globe, I understood Megan couldn't really improve for sex and she lost freshness compare to Mainhattan where she started. She will turn 30 at the end of year. I wish she has good life and is free.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3007690]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks![/QUOTE]Not many looks like Megan who was one of the very prettiest at Globe, when she was prettier in Germany when I discovered her at Mainhattan. And charming lovely, when charm is more and more rare, furthermore at Globe. Now, more silicon tattooed with duck lips.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007576]Even without FK, if You don t know the girl since nineteenth century or she is in love with You or desperate for business or really not pretty, You should not find for 150/60 at Sharks with Romanians agreement,[/QUOTE]Yeah, you keep repeating that as a fact. Then again, the local forum do have a few recent reports about girls at Sharks providing excellent 150 E /60 sessions. Not many. But a handful.

And they DFK without demanding an extra. They are definitively not in love with the client. Repeat business? Perhaps, but not a given. As per my own observations they are far from being "lonely and desperate", but are doing quite a good living. Possibly for a good reason. Pretty or not? Maybe not in any Top 10 list, but far from being at the bottom of the barrel. More like an averagelooking Sharks girl. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I am not saying it is easy to get a solid 150 E /60 session at Sharks (it is hard). But there are opportunities out there. Including DFK without an extra cost. For those willing to put in the effort.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007751]Yeah, you keep repeating that as a fact. Then again, the local forum do have a few recent reports about girls at Sharks providing excellent 150 E /60 sessions. Not many. But a handful.

And they DFK without demanding an extra. They are definitively not in love with the client. Repeat business? Perhaps, but not a given. As per my own observations they are far from being "lonely and desperate", but are doing quite a good living. Possibly for a good reason. Pretty or not? Maybe not in any Top 10 list, but far from being at the bottom of the barrel. More like an averagelooking Sharks girl. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I am not saying it is easy to get a solid 150 E /60 session at Sharks (it is hard). But there are opportunities out there. Including DFK without an extra cost. For those willing to put in the effort.[/QUOTE]What is local forum? When on lustscout. De, they write how they pay crazy for girls who are mostly among average ones, but I don t read reports about paying 150/60 for few top girls, when they are busy and should not run for this rate, and I know some guys on this German forum, when I m as regular as many locals. Not far from 25 visits already on this year. And I would say same for most at Oase.

Yes, few very long time in business like lovely model type Sabrina and maybe business sister Alina when she doesn t drink champagne, may work good GFE for 150/60 when they are not busy, but I don t go to Sharks on Tuesday and I prefer when girls make free for me, more GFE and exciting for me. Maybe also Roxy with her long time regulars, but not a look for me. Maybe I could have gone with lovely blond Sabrina when was 50/30 . But I had other girls at World.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3007690]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks! And definitely nicer than the pimps LOL![/QUOTE]I have also met many who were nice people. My point was in comparison with Megan. Have you met Megan?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007381]Normal women are very different from girls in this business behavior. Girls just starting in this business are also different. Most guys in this business are not best ones. FKK world is not real world.[/QUOTE]I'm actually more thinking about normal women than women in this business.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]
I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw. [/QUOTE]There was LESS upsell and the risk of a bad session was 50 EUR. If a girl didn't kiss, she didn't kiss and did not demand 50 EUR extra.

Re pricing: 1998 the session was 100 DM (52 EUR). So WHY should girls not demand 100 EUR now? Not pricing, service levels for 100 EUR /30 min are the issue. I am not working for the same money I made in 1998.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;3008513].....Re pricing: 1998 the session was 100 DM (52 EUR). So WHY should girls not demand 100 EUR now? Not pricing, service levels for 100 EUR /30 min are the issue. I am not working for the same money I made in 1998.[/QUOTE]I would have no problem paying EUR 100/30 now if the service was the same as you got for EUR 50/30 in 1998.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3008552]I would have no problem paying EUR 100/30 now if the service was the same as you got for EUR 50/30 in 1998.[/QUOTE]In NRW, 50€/30 still exist and with very pretties. In Hessen, can have 100/30+ for real GFE with really pretties and again at Sharks on Saturday. At Globe, 165€/30

Greetings fellow mongers,

I will be traveling to Germany for the first time and am planning out my 6 night trip. I been reading the forums and am thinking a Frankfurt (Oase / Manhattan) then Darmstadt (Sharks) then Berlin (Artemis). It seems like Sharks is best for the Frankfurt area, correct? Also, how does Oase and Manhattan compare to each other and Sharks? Any other notable FKKs within striking distance of Darmstadt / Leipizig / Berlin? And what is price is not an issue? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=EdZackary;3008570]Greetings fellow mongers,

I will be traveling to Germany for the first time and am planning out my 6 night trip. I been reading the forums and am thinking a Frankfurt (Oase / Manhattan) then Darmstadt (Sharks) then Berlin (Artemis). It seems like Sharks is best for the Frankfurt area, correct? Also, how does Oase and Manhattan compare to each other and Sharks? Any other notable FKKs within striking distance of Darmstadt / Leipizig / Berlin? And what is price is not an issue? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sharks have most girls, 120 told on this Saturday. Most of girls asking 150/30 for GFE are not best ones for this.

[QUOTE=EdZackary;3008570]Greetings fellow mongers,

I will be traveling to Germany for the first time and am planning out my 6 night trip. I been reading the forums and am thinking a Frankfurt (Oase / Manhattan) then Darmstadt (Sharks) then Berlin (Artemis). It seems like Sharks is best for the Frankfurt area, correct? Also, how does Oase and Manhattan compare to each other and Sharks? Any other notable FKKs within striking distance of Darmstadt / Leipizig / Berlin? And what is price is not an issue? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Berlin is in a class of its own. There is only one FKK, read the forum. There is no comparison to what choice / price / ease you will have in Frankfurt area and all the clubs that you have within a couple hours.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3008822]Berlin is in a class of its own. There is only one FKK, read the forum. There is no comparison to what choice / price / ease you will have in Frankfurt area and all the clubs that you have within a couple hours.[/QUOTE]Tintin1,

Thank you for the response. I did research Berlin and only could find Aretmis. Thank you for confirming my findings. When you write that Artemis is "a class of its own" is that good or bad? If it was right next to Sharks, how would it compare? I haven't booked my hotels yet and need to decide how many nights to spend in each city.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3008662]Sharks have most girls, 120 told on this Saturday. Most of girls asking 150/30 for GFE are not best ones for this.[/QUOTE]Sriioja, thanks for the response. I am not much of a DFK person. How is the selection during the week? And Midday? Is Tuesday 1400 a waste of time?

[QUOTE=EdZackary;3008828]Sriioja, thanks for the response. I am not much of a DFK person. How is the selection during the week? And Midday? Is Tuesday 1400 a waste of time?[/QUOTE]On any day, Sharks would have most girls, when now club number 1 in Germany since 2021. On a Tuesday afternoon, you should find around at least 40 girls. If you don't need FK, you should quite easily get 100/30 if you don't play tourist and don't tell you are a newbie. I think more fresh girls at Sharks than Artemis.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3008562]In NRW, 50/30 still exist and with very pretties. In Hessen, can have 100/30+ for real GFE with really pretties and again at Sharks on Saturday. At Globe, 165/30[/QUOTE]Service is what really matters for me. Perhaps I should consider Globe if good service is guaranteed.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3008953]Service is what really matters for me. Perhaps I should consider Globe if good service is guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, since 2021, when prices increased, but Globe level fell for looks, elegance and charm and I was not impressed on most of my rooms, except on Sylvester afternoon. I find prettier and more fresh GFE in Germany for less expensive, when I don t need Globe rules to get from girls. Many Globe girls worked in Germany before and now not the best ones. For 100 or even less, can still find quality in Germany.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3008953]Service is what really matters for me. Perhaps I should consider Globe if good service is guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Regardless of what Siri says, Globe still rules for service. Sure the girls might have a few more miles. But they are still pretty and fit and know what the fuck they are doing. Never had anything but top service there. Read my report from April last year when we had five girls in the room (fortunately most on the other guys dime). They were all hot as fuck. Not one I wouldn't fuck.

I am not sure when Siri developed his Globe sucks bias but rest assured if service is the mark Globe is the place.

[QUOTE=EdZackary;3008570]Greetings fellow mongers,

I will be traveling to Germany for the first time and am planning out my 6 night trip. I been reading the forums and am thinking a Frankfurt (Oase / Manhattan) then Darmstadt (Sharks) then Berlin (Artemis). It seems like Sharks is best for the Frankfurt area, correct? Also, how does Oase and Manhattan compare to each other and Sharks? Any other notable FKKs within striking distance of Darmstadt / Leipizig / Berlin? And what is price is not an issue? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There are pros / cons depending on what's most important to you, but I don't understand how anyone can argue that Sharks isn't in a league of its own as an FKK.

It's fun to explore the other clubs, but I usually end up thinking I should have just went back to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3009150]Regardless of what Siri says, Globe still rules for service. Sure the girls might have a few more miles. But they are still pretty and fit and know what the fuck they are doing. Never had anything but top service there. Read my report from April last year when we had five girls in the room (fortunately most on the other guys dime). They were all hot as fuck. Not one I wouldn't fuck.

I am not sure when Siri developed his Globe sucks bias but rest assured if service is the mark Globe is the place.[/QUOTE]Arithmetics talk: Till 2020 and even under covid, I visited more than 15 times per year, versus 2 visits on 2021, 1 on 2023 with 0 room and 1 on 2024 with only 1 room, when only 2 out of 100 were attractive for my eyes, 2% and prettiest was lovely, but not on higher GFE level than what I make in Germany from my good job. Globe is not anymore what it was, when more than 100 and many new girls at Sharks for who is able to play in jungle. Better value for money, looks and fresh GFE for my pleasure. Why to pay more expensive for lower quality, when look, image and good rooms are so important for pleasure, versus long time girls.

[QUOTE=JefferyG;3009152]There are pros / cons depending on what's most important to you, but I don't understand how anyone can argue that Sharks isn't in a league of its own as an FKK.

It's fun to explore the other clubs, but I usually end up thinking I should have just went back to Sharks.[/QUOTE]I'm with you that Sharks is the best club in the Frankfurt area and def the best club for shock and awe with the high ceilings huge layout and quantity of girls. But two other clubs win on other points.

Penelope near Dusseldorf wins on value. Smaller than sharks. But pretty girls and solid service. Only had good times here. And 50/ hf like old times. Including BBBJ.

Globe. In Zurich wins on service. Always slim good looking girls and top notch service. Also public BJ is allowed because the don't have the German BBBJ law. I love getting a BJ while drinking my beer.

Globe is not anymore good value for money, when not anymore on higher level than many other clubs. Looks, elegance and charm really fell there and rooms don t help to get pleasure.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3009163]Also public BJ is allowed because the don't have the German BBBJ law. I love getting a BJ while drinking my beer.[/QUOTE]Man that does sound awesome!
It's a shame how many girls at Sharks don't do BBBJ or only for extra 50

[QUOTE=Mander;3009690]Man that does sound awesome!
It's a shame how many girls at Sharks don't do BBBJ or only for extra 50[/QUOTE]Most girls at Sharks provide BBBJ for 100/30, some asking extra 50 for kissing, I don't advice to pay for, when usually low quality when extra asked. Some girls now lower to 100/30 for GFE, when they have too slow business, only fucking tourist in mind. For me, Globe only worth now if You want public sex, but not anymore for higher quality, when looks fell.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3009163]I'm with you that Sharks is the best club in the Frankfurt area and def the best club for shock and awe with the high ceilings huge layout and quantity of girls. But two other clubs win on other points.

Penelope near Dusseldorf wins on value. Smaller than sharks. But pretty girls and solid service. Only had good times here. And 50/ hf like old times. Including BBBJ.

Globe. In Zurich wins on service. Always slim good looking girls and top notch service. Also public BJ is allowed because the don't have the German BBBJ law. I love getting a BJ while drinking my beer.[/QUOTE]Globe . I also love the floor show. Usually brings everyone out of the dark corners so you can window shop easier!

Thanks for the Penelope tip. Thinking of trying that later this year.

If you were going to visit the area for a couple nights. Would you stay in Dortmund or just pick hotels close to each club. I have one of those loyalty points accounts that earns me free rooms so I don't mind driving a bit each night rather than moving all the time.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3009714]Globe . I also love the floor show. Usually brings everyone out of the dark corners so you can window shop easier!

Thanks for the Penelope tip. Thinking of trying that later this year.

If you were going to visit the area for a couple nights. Would you stay in Dortmund or just pick hotels close to each club. I have one of those loyalty points accounts that earns me free rooms so I don't mind driving a bit each night rather than moving all the time.[/QUOTE]I can confirm, Penelope is the best thing going in the NRW.

Club Venus Hamminkeln has fallen the most, don't waste your time there. Overpriced fatties with terrible service and ice cold jacuzzi. Just avoid that place.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;3009774]I can confirm, Penelope is the best thing going in the NRW.

Club Venus Hamminkeln has fallen the most, don't waste your time there. Overpriced fatties with terrible service and ice cold jacuzzi. Just avoid that place.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I generally report details once I visit. The last few trips, the only thing that's really impacted me has been the public transport strikes (earlier this year in Germany.

I just had to skip my quick trip to Germany due to a airline cancellation this week- but I'll get there over the course of the next few months. When you're trying to squeeze in 1 or 2 nights, it's just not easy to work around unless you're already in the CIty.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3009714]Globe . I also love the floor show. Usually brings everyone out of the dark corners so you can window shop easier!

Thanks for the Penelope tip. Thinking of trying that later this year.

If you were going to visit the area for a couple nights. Would you stay in Dortmund or just pick hotels close to each club. I have one of those loyalty points accounts that earns me free rooms so I don't mind driving a bit each night rather than moving all the time.[/QUOTE]Ex Great Palace, now Penelope is about 10 kms from Dortmund. Brother with Acapulco Gold close to Dusseldorf airport. Penelope is quiet in afternoon, waking up around 7 pm. Entry 35 , foods can sometimes be good. Garden with cold swimming pool. Sauna but no jacuzzi. Not the highest level, but one of best values for money. 50/30 for girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3010577]Ex Great Palace, now Penelope is about 10 kms from Dortmund......[/QUOTE]Google maps says 18 kms about 24 minutes by car from Dortmund.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3010645]Google maps says 18 kms about 24 minutes by car from Dortmund.[/QUOTE]18 kms can be only around 5 mn on German free speed autobahns I enjoy. Maybe from Dortmund city center or having to leave the famous yellow wall. Penelope is closer to Dortmund than Dusseldorf and complicated to reach from West Dusseldorf, my nightmare, when I like the club and had really good girls, one squirting showering me.

For those who want to enjoy FKKs, choose best times to visit to get best quality, don t play tourist if You don t want to be fucked like a tourist, don t tell if You are newbie, don t rush, relax, take your time to choose, speak with girls and look how they look at You, quite important to evaluate. Most upselling for FK don t worth for quality. Then, even a foreigner like me, You can find really good quality for quite good value: maximum 100 for 30 and 150 for 60 , even many tell me I play on higher level than locals, but possible to find really enjoyable. In Sky or RTC, You should not find pretties, when can find prettier ones than at Globe in some clubs. Usually, quality will be according to what You are and your way with girls. My experience. Around Dusseldorf, Penelope is usually best value for money 50/30 , when Magnum have sometimes really pretties, but asking more expensive. Around Frankfurt, Sharks have most girls on any day, sometimes around 100 , but can be quite slow before 2 pm.

Sirioja, you got around 25 k posts. Obviously I haven't read them all neither anybody probably has, but this one is best of yours I had ever seen. Peace.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3011841]For those who want to enjoy FKKs, choose best times to visit to get best quality, don t play tourist if You don t want to be fucked like a tourist, don t tell if You are newbie, don t rush, relax, take your time to choose, speak with girls and look how they look at You, quite important to evaluate. Most upselling for FK don t worth for quality. Then, even a foreigner like me, You can find [B]really good quality[/B] for quite good value: [B]maximum 100 for 30 and 150 for 60[/B] , even many tell me I play on higher level than locals, but possible to find really enjoyable. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the summary. Then there is this only a couple of weeks ago:

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007139]No, at Sharks, only few will now accept 150/60 , even without FK and for sure [B] not prettiest nor busiest[/B]. Maybe Sylvana or old NL?[/QUOTE]What happened? Are you talking about other clubs than Sharks? Or did you make new experiences discovering a new reality?

[QUOTE=Shark16;3011892]Thanks for the summary. Then there is this only a couple of weeks ago:

What happened? Are you talking about other clubs than Sharks? Or did you make new experiences discovering a new reality?[/QUOTE]Even my best potential on 2025, but Sharks is not the only good club in Germany. 150/60 won t be so usual at Sharks now, when I most often manage for 100/35/40. NRW and NL will be better for 150 or less for 1 hour. 100/120/60 at Penelope, 140/60 at YY and can be less at 6 sens.

Sitting here fretting as I watch the dollar sink lower and lower and lower against the Euro! I hope it rebounds some before my trip to Germany later this year. Sigh!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3012065]Sitting here fretting as I watch the dollar sink lower and lower and lower against the Euro! I hope it rebounds some before my trip to Germany later this year. Sigh![/QUOTE]Say thank You to the old senile stupid dangerous fat Trump fucking American citizens and putting messe in our world. USD fall is good for gasoline.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3012065]Sitting here fretting as I watch the dollar sink lower and lower and lower against the Euro! I hope it rebounds some before my trip to Germany later this year. Sigh![/QUOTE]It doesn't seem like that at the moment. Not to make things political but Trump is also clear on that he wants a weaker exchange rate (that's what lower interest will lead to) so expect it to fall a bit or at least stay where it is.

On the other hand the dollar has been strong since the pandemic started with perhaps only shorter periods of weakness. The US economy has been extremely strong compared to other countries the last few years. Just look at Tesla or Big Tech share prices.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3012065]Sitting here fretting as I watch the dollar sink lower and lower and lower against the Euro! I hope it rebounds some before my trip to Germany later this year. Sigh![/QUOTE]No chance of rebound if Congress finally passes the Big Beautiful Debt Mountain bill. International creditors will abandon the US dollar. You will effectively be paying Trump's billionaire friends every time you change money.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012118]No chance of rebound if Congress finally passes the Big Beautiful Debt Mountain bill. International creditors will abandon the US dollar. You will effectively be paying Trump's billionaire friends every time you change money.[/QUOTE]Its cyclical. Countries importing US goods will be paying less, this will boost exports and enhance the economy whereupon the US dollar will rise.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3012121]Its cyclical. Countries importing US goods will be paying less, this will boost exports and enhance the economy whereupon the US dollar will rise.[/QUOTE]Yes, of course. All 'The Cane’s will have to forgo some FKK trips, and spend their money at home instead to Make Americans Rich Again, some day, hopefully.

I was in Sharks and Oase for a few days last week. The heat was debilitating.

In Oase, when I approached some girls I had not tried before, they wanted 150/30. One not exceptionally pretty one wanted 200/30! So, I stuck to my regulars. Advantage of Oase over Sharks last week was a surfeit of empty cold rooms to get away from the heat. Zero wait time.

In Sharks, new girls I approached asked for 100/30, 200/30. A few agreed to 150/60. Thus Sharks wins hands down on pricing and quantity of reasonably pretty girls. Quite a few pretty new ones. Downside is that the new ones do not stay long due to tough competition. 2 new ones whom I tried last month had already left.

The rooms upstairs were unbearably hot (except the window rooms). Those downstairs were unbearably cold. The enclosed huts in the garden were like a furnace, while the non-enclosed (curtained) ones were fully occupied. Queuing for rooms and for coffee in the heat was no joke!

The self-service coffee machine was often out of order, and they seemed short of bar counter staff. Waiting time was worsened on 2 of the days when that old short slow-moving grouchy hag was back on duty.

Sorry, first sentence in para 3 of my post below should obviously be:

In Sharks, new girls I approached asked for 100/30 and 200/60.

Ugh! This heat is unbearable and there so few places with ACs!

Can anyone list FKKs that has decent AC (Air Conditioning) ?

[QUOTE=Mander;3012277]Ugh! This heat is unbearable and there so few places with ACs!

Can anyone list FKKs that has decent AC (Air Conditioning) ?[/QUOTE]How are the pools at Sharks and Oase and Globe and Mainhatten and elsewhere? The pool scene is one of the best thing about FKKs and hot days don't happen that often in Europe.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;3012289]How are the pools at Sharks and Oase and Globe and Mainhatten and elsewhere? The pool scene is one of the best thing about FKKs and hot days don't happen that often in Europe.[/QUOTE]Both Oase and Sharks had entertaining pool scenes last week. Girls were totally naked around the Oase pool whilst they are covered up inside the club.
Girls in Sharks are mostly naked indoors (albeit with some body decorations), but total naked outside. However, the pool there feels constricted as it is surrounded by sheds / huts (compared to the Oase pool with open surroundings). Last Monday though, I enjoyed watching a girls-versus-customers volleyball match in the Sharks pool as their jiggling boobs when they struck the ball were a sight to behold.

I did not visit Globe or Mainhatten during this trip, but their pools are small and usually with nothing much happening. Pool at Globe is on their small rooftop with no view.

During its heyday, FKK World’s outdoor pool used to be a nice place to hang around to watch pretty nude girls tanning. I was almost tempted to visit FKK World last week, but as there were so many train breakdowns, I decided not to risk going there and being stranded in Giessen; especially since I do not know whether their line up as improved (no reports from this or other forums for a long time).

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012312] Pool at Globe is on their small rooftop with no view.

During its heyday, FKK Worlds outdoor pool used to be a nice place to hang around to watch pretty nude girls tanning.[/QUOTE]There is a pool on the Globe rooftop? I don't think so friend.

I miss FKK World. Curious how they ended up never recovering post-covid whilst almost all others have.

Sharks pool scene is top notch this summer. Girls look good by the pool and they know it. BBQ is on point. Tip to the newbies - don't approach a girl who is playing/chilling by the pool to ask for a room. She paid more than you to enter the club that day and has clearly made a decision to take some time off to tan/swim/play and in doing so seeding some pre-sales marketing. Wait till she is back in her battle armor (make-up, shoes, hair) and on the shop floor looking for business. Approaching her by the pool just proves to her that you are a dunce. I'd equate it to interrupting a girl's meal in the dining room to ask for sex.

Oase landscape is nice sure, but girls nowhere near Sharks quality. Interestingly however I keep seeing more and more customers coming as couples (male+female). It's unique to Oase and maybe something they should hone in on.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3012361]There is a pool on the Globe rooftop? I don't think so friend.

I miss FKK World. Curious how they ended up never recovering post-covid whilst almost all others have.

Oase landscape is nice sure, but girls nowhere near Sharks quality. Interestingly however I keep seeing more and more customers coming as couples (male+female). It's unique to Oase and maybe something they should hone in on.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I think I confused it with the rooftop of Swiss FKK which used to have a mini portable pool. I recall now that the Globe rooftop garden has no pool.

FKK World already died before Covid when their strict regime of working times and days for the girls led to an exodus of their better girls to a Sharks and Oase. And when they started charging for beer, food and towels, the club atmosphere was gone. No reason for them to recover.

There was a middle-aged couple in Oase last Saturday. The lady had her robe on at all the times I saw her. When couples went to FKK World in the past, they were au natural in the garden. One day, I think I will try to persuade one of my favourites from Sharks or Oase to come with me to World to frolic naked in the garden.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012312]Both Oase and Sharks had entertaining pool scenes last week. Girls were totally naked around the Oase pool whilst they are covered up inside the club.
Girls in Sharks are mostly naked indoors (albeit with some body decorations), but total naked outside. However, the pool there feels constricted as it is surrounded by sheds / huts (compared to the Oase pool with open surroundings). [/QUOTE]TT's review is the one that concurs most with my own. Love these details.

This summer I have have spent most of my time at the Oase and Sharks gardens. Summer with temperatures in the 30s C (90s F) is the time of year when the gardens really come alive. No clothes (thank you!), lots of girls and guys sunbathing and playing in the pool, lots of smiles, both clubs are giving away free ice creams. Everything is so relaxed. Just love it.

If it is cold and rainy, the ambience is totally different of course. There is no outdoor buffet, and the girls stay inside.

The area around the Sharks pool is smaller and cramped due to the hedges. Most of the time 5- 10 girls IME. Small / cramped means more intimate, which is a quality I like, but lacks the overview. Oase pool is more spacious and can often feel empty, but boy does that garden comes to life when there is a heatwave and the girls come out. Perhaps 20- 25 girls around the pool in the afternoon. Just amazing. One clear advantage at Oase is the "catwalk" to the outside restaurant that make sure that all girls must pass the pool to get their lunch or dinner. This is a perfect time to evalutate the lineup.

IMHO I do not see that much of a difference in the quality of the Sharks vs Oase lineup. You can clearly see who is relaxing and who is working. I find it easy to make smalltalk and perhaps indicate your interest in a girl for a later hookup in the evening. I have even observed and participated in "light" public sex in the garden (both at Oase and Sharks).

Both Sharks and Oase have a / see in the main rooms, I believe, but neither of them seem willing to put it on. Saving money on electricity, I guess. Sharks indoors is just unbearable in the heat. Some rooms have a / see thankfully, but easier to find a room with a / see at Oase, yes.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012312]During its heyday, FKK Worlds outdoor pool used to be a nice place to hang around to watch pretty nude girls tanning. .....I decided not to risk going there and being stranded in Giessen; especially since I do not know whether their line up as improved (no reports from this or other forums for a long time).[/QUOTE]I think I am one of few from ISG who have visited World in the last years (and giving some reports about it). 2025 is the first year I will not be attending. Mainly because (I) my regulars have quit, (ii) new girls now charge the same as at Oase and Sharks (while they used to have the advantage of being less expensive), and (iii) while the lineup always have had some new interesting quality bodies (see my reports of last year) I have not been able to find someone to replace my regulars (lack of quality performance at a normal price) (contrary to my luck at Oase and Sharks).

World had its heydays from 2004- 2014, and is now a club for locals. No need for the international traveller to make the extra effort to Giessen/Garbenteich. Rumours from 2024 about 40 girls is gone, and I believe the numbers now are back peaking in the 20- 30 range (compare that to 40- 60 at Oase and 80- 120 at Sharks). The club has more rooms than girls, and the biggest garden in Hessen feel much too empty. That should tell you something.

Note: The downstairs at World used to have the coldest a / see in Hessen. Then again, I cannot verify that this is still the case in 2025 (no visits).

[QUOTE=Shark16;3012387]One clear advantage at Oase is the "catwalk" to the outside restaurant that make sure that all girls must pass the pool to get their lunch or dinner. This is a perfect time to evalutate the lineup.
[/QUOTE]Absolutely!

Some faces that are presentable in the dim lights within appear very disappointing under the bright sunlight. Those with goldfish lips become especially undesirable as the vertical sunlight accentuates the protrusion.

Last week was the first time I saw a voyeur in Sharks. Spotted him peeping through the hedge to observe a couple making out in the relatively open huts (with the transparent muslin curtains) near the toilet. He ran off when he saw my girl and I approaching.

This happens all the time on Tuesdays at Globe. And it happened to me twice in one of the beds in the World garden. But I had always assumed this would not happen in Sharks.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012403]Last week was the first time I saw a voyeur in Sharks. Spotted him peeping through the hedge to observe a couple making out in the relatively open huts (with the transparent muslin curtains) near the toilet. He ran off when he saw my girl and I approaching.[/QUOTE]Peeping Toms are an annoyance if you experience it. I would not be able to enjoy a girl if someone would be ogling at us. Thankfully these are rare cases which I nearly have not experienced in my 20 years of FKKing at the German clubs. Everything is so relaxed. Nobody cares if you have sex in the open spaces of the garden.

(I believe there used to be other type of clubs in Berlin specialized for peeping toms? Or any other gang bang event would be more suitable, I think)

The girls are used to gents looking at them all the time by the pool / in the garden (or in any other meeting areas). It is not only accepted but also appreciated. You risk getting an inviting smile back (contrary to what would happen at a public beach).

But these working girls also have their limits. I recently observed one girl scolding a gent at the Sharks pool for perving on her. He had be sitting only a few feet away from her ogling at her for long time. "Go away!! You have been looking at me for hours with no intention of taking me to the room. Get lost!". He obeyed totally embarrassed. The girl had my sympathy 100%. Don't be that guy.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3012407]"Go away!! You have been looking at me for hours with no intention of taking me to the room. Get lost!". He obeyed totally embarrassed. The girl had my sympathy 100%. Don't be that guy.[/QUOTE]About 8-9 years ago, in World, there was a guy whom I often saw sitting on a chair at the end of the corridor (with rooms on both sides) which we walk through after coming down the staircase to the lower level (before we turn right to the indoor pool).

Most times he would be wanking away. The girls told me that he wanks only when he finds the girl walking past attractive, and that he does not take any girl to the room at all. Surprisingly, all the girls I spoke to did not mind this, and said that they felt dismayed when he did not wank when they walked past him!

Did you ever see him? I had seen him wanking at least 10 times (over a span of 2-3 years); he probably liked the girls I went with.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012411]About 8-9 years ago, in World, there was a guy whom I often saw sitting on a chair at the end of the corridor (with rooms on both sides) which we walk through after coming down the staircase to the lower level (before we turn right to the indoor pool).

Most times he would be wanking away. The girls told me that he wanks only when he finds the girl walking past attractive, and that he does not take any girl to the room at all. Surprisingly, all the girls I spoke to did not mind this, and said that they felt dismayed when he did not wank when they walked past him!

Did you ever see him? I had seen him wanking at least 10 times (over a span of 2-3 years); he probably liked the girls I went with.[/QUOTE]Damn it.

Those two chairs were my fav spot. You had clear view of the bar, good lighting to inspect the goods of girls walking by and a room on either side for quick snatch and grabs if a target comes nearby at the right time.

No, I'm not your wanker. I have never seen him. Nor do I judge how people want to get their kicks. But I do not like fools taking up valuable real estate all day. I'm thinking about the old retirees who park up on the couches near the lockers at Sharks. Hours and hours they sit there. That's a good spot for scoping targets.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3012418]I'm thinking about the old retirees who park up on the couches near the lockers at Sharks. Hours and hours they sit there. That's a good spot for scoping targets.[/QUOTE]Around 2016, over a period of about 2 years in Sharks, there was a German called Juergen (luxuriant blond hair, not a retiree, a little plump) who lies down horizontally occupying the whole couch facing the stairs so that he could shout at girls coming down the stairs. He was present whenever that very pretty girl called Janine was present. Janine sat on the couch opposite him, and 2 of her permanent suitors would flank her. They thus hog almost the whole front array of couches for about 3 hours at night at the peak time.

That is the ultimate in sterilising prime real estate. Those who patronise Sharks at that time would remember that group of non-retirees.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012411]About 8-9 years ago, in World, there was a guy whom I often saw sitting on a chair at the end of the corridor (with rooms on both sides) which we walk through after coming down the staircase to the lower level (before we turn right to the indoor pool).

Most times he would be wanking away. The girls told me that he wanks only when he finds the girl walking past attractive, and that he does not take any girl to the room at all. Surprisingly, all the girls I spoke to did not mind this, and said that they felt dismayed when he did not wank when they walked past him!

Did you ever see him? I had seen him wanking at least 10 times (over a span of 2-3 years); he probably liked the girls I went with.[/QUOTE]Haha! No, I don't think I ever saw him. I give him more sympathy than the nut case by the Sharks pool who had his eyes glued on a girl from five feet away for half an hour though. That's pretty creepy.

The girls have seen it all. Maybe they saw something funny about the guy at World. Although I admit I have a hard time believing that he never took any girl to the room at all. It does not sound credible. The girls tolerate a lot of stuff, but cheap charlies are normally frown upon. In particular cheap charlies and a wanker. Maybe there is a reason why he is not seen at World any longer?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;3012289]How are the pools at Sharks and Oase and Globe and Mainhatten and elsewhere? The pool scene is one of the best thing about FKKs and hot days don't happen that often in Europe.[/QUOTE]No more pool at Globe since 2017 . Few AC rooms at Sharks, but I prefer those with window. Swimming pool at Penelope, Magnum, Babylon NRW, YY and 6 sens, sauna club Venus, Prime Velbert, Finca, Mainhattan, World, Oase, Sharks, Freubad, Zeus.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3012407]Peeping Toms are an annoyance if you experience it. I would not be able to enjoy a girl if someone would be ogling at us. Thankfully these are rare cases which I nearly have not experienced in my 20 years of FKKing at the German clubs. Everything is so relaxed. Nobody cares if you have sex in the open spaces of the garden.

(I believe there used to be other type of clubs in Berlin specialized for peeping toms? Or any other gang bang event would be more suitable, I think)

The girls are used to gents looking at them all the time by the pool / in the garden (or in any other meeting areas). It is not only accepted but also appreciated. You risk getting an inviting smile back (contrary to what would happen at a public beach).

But these working girls also have their limits. I recently observed one girl scolding a gent at the Sharks pool for perving on her. He had be sitting only a few feet away from her ogling at her for long time. "Go away!! You have been looking at me for hours with no intention of taking me to the room. Get lost!". He obeyed totally embarrassed. The girl had my sympathy 100%. Don't be that guy.[/QUOTE]At Sharks, when I looked at model type Ela ex Wellcum leaving in street clothes, she asked me: Why are You looking at me? To be polite, I answered: Because You are pretty. Then, she said: But You never fucked me. To be polite again, I told: so many girls, when reality is she is quite pretty, but not a first choice for me, even I m more impressed by tall girls, but lack of charm and elegance to excite my desire. Some girls are just for eyes pleasure, but not for desire. But I have great eyes pleasure to look at Alex.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3012126]I was in Sharks and Oase for a few days last week. The heat was debilitating.

In Sharks, new girls I approached asked for 100/30, 200/30. A few agreed to 150/60. Thus Sharks wins hands down on pricing and quantity of reasonably pretty girls. Quite a few pretty new ones. Downside is that the new ones do not stay long due to tough competition. 2 new ones whom I tried last month had already left.

[/QUOTE]I second this. Most girls sits at the couch or at the bars for hours, and mostly looked stupid and very bored. There are some girls who tries with 150/30 even tho they agree with 100/30.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3012619]I second this. Most girls sits at the couch or at the bars for hours, and mostly looked stupid and very bored. There are some girls who tries with 150/30 even tho they agree with 100/30.[/QUOTE]At Sharks now, some new girls and among very prettiest ask 100 for GFE service, when business is not so strong and on this week end, Germans will go on holidays. Long time girls asking 150/30 or more, warm their ass sitting, making cellulite.

Sadly, I have not been able to make it to Frankfurt so far this summer. I consider one of life's pleasures to be lounging around in the gardens at Oase or Sharks (sadly World line up permanently depleted) during the summer when the days are long and the sun is out. And of course taking girls when feeling amorous and especially enjoy outdoor action if weather permits. Hopefully will still make it this year for a few days. My question does August really see a huge downturn in terms of numbers and quality of girls? That has always seemed to be the prevailing view on this board due to locals being on holiday but I would have thought incoming tourists and Asians in particular would make up for the shortfall in customers.

In the past I have visited both in late July and the start of September and been happy with quality and quantity on offer, so is August really that different? I don't mind waiting till early September if that means more goodies ion offer and hopefully I would get lucky with the weather. What I want to avoid is a situation like orthodox Easter when numbers are really down (I believe Christmas / New Year period is similar).

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3014988]Sadly, I have not been able to make it to Frankfurt so far this summer. I consider one of life's pleasures to be lounging around in the gardens at Oase or Sharks (sadly World line up permanently depleted) during the summer when the days are long and the sun is out. And of course taking girls when feeling amorous and especially enjoy outdoor action if weather permits. Hopefully will still make it this year for a few days. My question does August really see a huge downturn in terms of numbers and quality of girls? That has always seemed to be the prevailing view on this board due to locals being on holiday but I would have thought incoming tourists and Asians in particular would make up for the shortfall in customers.

In the past I have visited both in late July and the start of September and been happy with quality and quantity on offer, so is August really that different? I don't mind waiting till early September if that means more goodies ion offer and hopefully I would get lucky with the weather. What I want to avoid is a situation like orthodox Easter when numbers are really down (I believe Christmas / New Year period is similar).[/QUOTE]Not like Orthodox Easter nor Christmas / Sylvester, but holidays time in August for many girls. Lower castings except maybe at Sharks.

Clubs without a garden and dependant on messe crowds like Mainhattan and Palace are most affected during the month of August. Dead in day time, but some activity late in the evening. 20+ girls (normally 30- 40)?

I doubt you will find 100+ girls at Sharks, but 80+ should be more than even you can handle. Some stars on holiday and more men give slightly poorer choice and f / m ratios. How sensitive to this are you?

Quality may depend on time when You visit. YY, 6 sens, Babylon, Gold are more day clubs. Penelope, Magnum, Samya, Mondial are more night clubs. Oase and Mainhattan have more girls after 7 pm than on early day. Gold can also at night, but more Turkish. Some clubs have HH, but You can relax, eat, till waking up for casting. For most clubs, best days are Friday and Saturday. Mondays and Tuesdays are mostly to avoid if You don t have appointment with a regular. About 50 girls at Sharks on Monday and Tuesday, not far from 100 on Friday and Saturday. A bit of knowledge should give better quality to enjoy, when I hate to waste my money for low quality, like shit Chinese products.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3015103]Clubs without a garden and dependant on messe crowds like Mainhattan and Palace are most affected during the month of August. Dead in day time, but some activity late in the evening. 20+ girls (normally 30- 40)?

I doubt you will find 100+ girls at Sharks, but 80+ should be more than even you can handle. Some stars on holiday and more men give slightly poorer choice and f / m ratios. How sensitive to this are you?[/QUOTE]Good to know! And I assume Oase drops from around 60 girls to 40 or so?

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3015380]Good to know! And I assume Oase drops from around 60 girls to 40 or so?[/QUOTE]Oase's numbers have been somewhat volatile this spring / summer, with numbers from 40 to 60, but mostly in the 40- 50 range. But with a few new faces (to me). Goodlooking too! Including Niki (Ex Globe, if my intel is correct).

I am guessing the numbers will be down to 30- 40 on any weekends in August (perhaps down to 20+ on off days like Mondays/Tuesdays). Just a wild guess, mind you.

Expect a slow start the first couple of hours from opening (11 am). The girls start arriving around 2- 3 pm (with girls like Selena and Madi starting earlier, if in attendance) with increasing numbers to around 8- 10 pm (Elisa arriving very late, if in attendance). My advice would be not to leave the club untill after 9- 10 pm if you want a full overview of the lineup.

Cheers. I tend not to teach a club until mid-afternoon and usually stay past midnight.

Is Madi, tall Romanian, deep tan, straight brown hair, stunning features, fake boobs with a sun tattoo over her cleavage? If so, had her a couple of times pre-Covid.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3015457]Is Madi, tall Romanian, deep tan, straight brown hair, stunning features, fake boobs with a sun tattoo over her cleavage? If so, had her a couple of times pre-Covid.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's her. Still a visual highlight at Oase. Man, those legs! Model look (185 cm with shoes). Excellent English and German. I don't think you can go wrong with her.

Note: I have no intel about her August vacation plans. Maybe someone else have and can fill in the gaps?

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3015457]Cheers. I tend not to teach a club until mid-afternoon and usually stay past midnight.

Is Madi, tall Romanian, deep tan, straight brown hair, stunning features, fake boobs with a sun tattoo over her cleavage? If so, had her a couple of times pre-Covid.[/QUOTE]Breakfast til 3. 30 pm. She moved from Imperium. Ch on Summer 2017 , now long time at Oase. Seems to work on day now. Not so tall when bare feet.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3015472]Yeah, that's her. Still a visual highlight at Oase. Man, those legs! Model look (185 cm with shoes). Excellent English and German. I don't think you can go wrong with her.

Note: I have no intel about her August vacation plans. Maybe someone else have and can fill in the gaps?[/QUOTE]With very high strip heels. Also Erika who worked at Globe, when Mady mostly worked at History, but it was very long ago.

Hello everyone! I've been around FKK for a while, mostly visiting Oase and Sharks.

I've been hearing how FKKs in NRW are so much better with great services, so I drove several hours to check out Babylon, Samya, and Penelope. I hope this does not offend anyone, but I don't see much difference, and in fact, Oase and Shark completely outshines them in terms of girls optics and the quality of the facility / food.

I get that there are tons of upsells and overcharging in Oase and Sharks compared to NRW FKKs, but I'm from USA where $400/ HR is the norm. All I care about is getting BBBJ and CFS from hot, young, and slim girls. In fact, I've found alot more hot ones in Hessen FKKs where as NRW seems to have older and more chubbier / curvey girls. And I really like the nice amenities like pools and rest areas in Oase, and I might just go for food and drinks at Sharks.

So what am I exactly missing out from NRW FKKs? Do girls pretend to really love you? Is there some kind of pre-room service that I was not getting? Do they really get into their acts?

Share the details on why you like NRW FKKs over Hessen. I might take the 3 hour drive to FKK Aca if it's worth it.

[QUOTE=Mander;3015505]Hello everyone! I've been around FKK for a while, mostly visiting Oase and Sharks.

I've been hearing how FKKs in NRW are so much better with great services, so I drove several hours to check out Babylon, Samya, and Penelope. I hope this does not offend anyone, but I don't see much difference, and in fact, Oase and Shark completely outshines them in terms of girls optics and the quality of the facility / food.

I get that there are tons of upsells and overcharging in Oase and Sharks compared to NRW FKKs, but I'm from USA where $400/ HR is the norm. All I care about is getting BBBJ and CFS from hot, young, and slim girls. In fact, I've found alot more hot ones in Hessen FKKs where as NRW seems to have older and more chubbier / curvey girls. And I really like the nice amenities like pools and rest areas in Oase, and I might just go for food and drinks at Sharks.

So what am I exactly missing out from NRW FKKs? Do girls pretend to really love you? Is there some kind of pre-room service that I was not getting? Do they really get into their acts?.[/QUOTE]Even I agree Sharks is best quality for casting on 2025, even better than Globe. Few good ones also at Oase. But when you pay minimum 100 at Sharks or Oase. You can find better value for money in NRW, or NL on border. Rebeka at Penelope would be in top 8 looks at Sharks, top 5 at Oase, among very prettiest at Globe, for 50 with BBBJ. Babylon and Samya are unfortunately not what they were, but some really high levels at Penelope for 50/30, at YY for 70/30 and at 6 sens, when you don t feel rich like an American, when those paying the most expensive don t always get best quality, but being seen as a tourist. Most girls who don t know me in German clubs, think I m German, when I don t speak, but being seen as a very regular, probably from my behavior, when playing with my brain in clubs, in order to receive highest quality for as less expensive as possible, even I don t negotiate, my good game, my only tip being to repeat, quite often more than 10 times for a good one. Not far from 10 rooms with 2 at Sharks on this year and not far from 30 rooms with one now at YY, from our start at GG on Summer 2023. Knowledge help to find quality and best value for money.

On my last two visits to Oase in 2025 I have seen female visitors as part of a couple. I would like to bring my wife with me sometime. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of what it is like to bring female visitors, or know of anyone who has done so?

[QUOTE=Nr71;3015634]On my last two visits to Oase in 2025 I have seen female visitors as part of a couple. I would like to bring my wife with me sometime. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of what it is like to bring female visitors, or know of anyone who has done so?[/QUOTE]Yes, couples seem to be welcome at Oase, not anymore at Sharks. Your woman can do all same than You. I saw couples also on public sex and going to room just together. When business is often quite slow, some girls should be happy to go with You and her, but I don t know for the rate, when it would be double for 2 guys. Would be good to find a bisexual girl.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3015662]Yes, couples seem to be welcome at Oase, not anymore at Sharks. Your woman can do all same than You. I saw couples also on public sex and going to room just together. When business is often quite slow, some girls should be happy to go with You and her, but I don t know for the rate, when it would be double for 2 guys. Would be good to find a bisexual girl.[/QUOTE]Many years ago around possibly 2009 I saw a woman in a robe at Oase. Possibly looking for some lesbian action.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3015745]Many years ago around possibly 2009 I saw a woman in a robe at Oase. Possibly looking for some lesbian action.[/QUOTE]Actually I just saw a woman in robe last weekend at Oase. She looked about 30-40 years old. She appeared to be by herself and not with anyone. Interesting!

I will only be available during the daytime, around 1–5 PM, this Wednesday or Thursday. I'm currently staying in the south of the Netherlands.

Is there any recommendations for the best casting girls in the NRW area?

I don t think women come alone to FKKs, they would be with us in lockers, but more in couple. They can try to find girls for lesbian.

[QUOTE=TWNumber1;3015896]I will only be available during the daytime, around 15 PM, this Wednesday or Thursday. I'm currently staying in the south of the Netherlands.

Is there any recommendations for the best casting girls in the NRW area?[/QUOTE]You should go to 6 sens in NL, on border close to Aachen. Should be best on daytime. HH entry if you can arrive before noon. 70/30 for girls if you don't behave to be fucked like a tourist. For cheap on daytime, Acapulco Gold Ratingen close to Dusseldorf airport, but 6 sens is higher level and closer. Magnum, Penelope are not for sport on daytime.

So I first noticed in FKK Golden Time Vienna, and some NRW FKKs, then I just noticed in Oase that boggles my mind.

Some of the hottest girls are surrounded by bunch of guys smoking, chatting, flirting for hours to no end. I would be interested in saying Hello, and see if we can go to a room, but it's hard to pull out a girl surrounded by bunch of guys. So I wait, and wait, and wait, then the night is pretty much done and I'm frustrated. I guess I should have moved on.

I have no idea if the guys are her pimps, boyfriends, or her fan club members. I have no idea what the hell is the girl doing there if she has no intention to bring a guy to a room. I understand girls would like to have fun and all that, but I see these girls buried by 3-4 guys on couches for hours. I cannot help but wonder if they are there just to flirt with her fan clubs or tease other guys. What are your thoughts?

[QUOTE=Mander;3015987]So I first noticed in FKK Golden Time Vienna, and some NRW FKKs, then I just noticed in Oase that boggles my mind.

Some of the hottest girls are surrounded by bunch of guys smoking, chatting, flirting for hours to no end. I would be interested in saying Hello, and see if we can go to a room, but it's hard to pull out a girl surrounded by bunch of guys. So I wait, and wait, and wait, then the night is pretty much done and I'm frustrated. I guess I should have moved on.

I have no idea if the guys are her pimps, boyfriends, or her fan club members. I have no idea what the hell is the girl doing there if she has no intention to bring a guy to a room. I understand girls would like to have fun and all that, but I see these girls buried by 3-4 guys on couches for hours. I cannot help but wonder if they are there just to flirt with her fan clubs or tease other guys. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]Some guys pay for only companionship, which is easy business for girls. Many guys pay and don t fuck, told by many girls. You can make a sign to the girl, when they usually look at us. Really amazing how girls can know us, even when never spoke together.

[QUOTE=Nr71;3015634]On my last two visits to Oase in 2025 I have seen female visitors as part of a couple. I would like to bring my wife with me sometime. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of what it is like to bring female visitors, or know of anyone who has done so?[/QUOTE]Your wife wiil be required to be dressed like you are, in bathrobe and slides. Last place on Earth I'd bring a wife or concubine.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3015992]Some guys pay for only companionship, which is easy business for girls. Many guys pay and don t fuck, told by many girls. You can make a sign to the girl, when they usually look at us. Really amazing how girls can know us, even when never spoke together. [/QUOTE]
I suppose that makes sense. Some guys want to pay to get flirted and oggled, more powers to them and I will happily ignore them


[QUOTE=XXL;3016045]Your wife wiil be required to be dressed like you are, in bathrobe and slides. Last place on Earth I'd bring a wife or concubine.[/QUOTE]I could totally see this happening if your girl is up for FFM or MFM.

[QUOTE=Mander;3016090]

I could totally see this happening if your girl is up for FFM or MFM.[/QUOTE]You wouldn't get a room for any MFM with your civvie girl. She is not allowed to undercut the business of the FKK girls.

[QUOTE=Mander;3016090]I suppose that makes sense. Some guys want to pay to get flirted and oggled, more powers to them and I will happily ignore them


I could totally see this happening if your girl is up for FFM or MFM.[/QUOTE]Some guys prefer to drink and have companionship. When married, not feeling to cheat wife. Many guys in FKKs are married.

[QUOTE=XXL;3016093]You wouldn't get a room for any MFM with your civvie girl. She is not allowed to undercut the business of the FKK girls.[/QUOTE]My reason to bring the wife is not to ruin business for the working girls. But she knows I visit from time to time, and she wants to see this world with her own eyes. And of course get first hand info on how I play with the girls in the rooms. Thank you to users for info, still hoping to hear from someone who actually brought female guests inside.

When real GFE worth more expensive for me than porn sex, real GFE can t be with a porn look for me, when not image of a girlfriend for me. Much more than just French kissing, girl has to have fresh behavior, not professional and of course, no Arabic market money talk which is really not GFE, but sex business. When I make few exceptions about silicon, if not in porn way, but I always prefer naturals which are always much more GFE style for me and I m surprised so many don t seem now able to see difference between silicon and naturals, don t they touch, don t they taste? When many also don t seem to fuck. Real GFE for me is when a girl trust me enough to let me do what I want in room, when come to me to ask to repeat, make free for me. I still find, even when GG is closed, even at jungle Sharks with not far from 10 rooms for 100 with same one, since end of May when we started on her first day. FK, BBBJ, DATY and good fucking are not enough for my standard for GFE. I m happy because I improved to manage about money, for 0 money talk, much better for me and saving risk about money. I drive from far for this level of GFE. Worthing the most expensive for me, 100 at Sharks, 140/150/60 at YY after GG.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3016408]When real GFE worth more expensive for me than porn sex, real GFE can t be with a porn look for me, when not image of a girlfriend for me. Much more than just French kissing, girl has to have fresh behavior, not professional and of course, no Arabic market money talk which is really not GFE, but sex business. When I make few exceptions about silicon, if not in porn way, but I always prefer naturals which are always much more GFE style for me and I m surprised so many don t seem now able to see difference between silicon and naturals, don t they touch, don t they taste? When many also don t seem to fuck. Real GFE for me is when a girl trust me enough to let me do what I want in room, when come to me to ask to repeat, make free for me. I still find, even when GG is closed, even at jungle Sharks with not far from 10 rooms for 100 with same one, since end of May when we started on her first day. FK, BBBJ, DATY and good fucking are not enough for my standard for GFE. I m happy because I improved to manage about money, for 0 money talk, much better for me and saving risk about money. I drive from far for this level of GFE. Worthing the most expensive for me, 100 at Sharks, 140/150/60 at YY after GG.[/QUOTE]I prefer natural / smaller myself and I still have trouble determining which ones offer real GFE before going to a room. They all offer 'GFE' it seems but the service from what I've seen is normally awful and no different than upsellers. Like the Argentina girl from late last year, she was all about the GFE until we got in the room and it was robotic and so bad that I didn't even stay 30 min. However, literally the next girl though was the greatest GFE / service I've ever had, I just spent the rest of the time / money with her. But she left earlier this year and wasn't around in March. It's wild because it seemed like she would be robotic, I only said yes to a room because she was super beautiful, I was expecting an upsell and instead had my mind blown. So much for that I suppose.

[QUOTE=Nr71;3016249]My reason to bring the wife is not to ruin business for the working girls. But she knows I visit from time to time, and she wants to see this world with her own eyes. And of course get first hand info on how I play with the girls in the rooms. Thank you to users for info, still hoping to hear from someone who actually brought female guests inside.[/QUOTE]Haven't tried this post Covid, but pre Covid few times. Palace, Oase, Manhattan had no issues with me bringing a female guest and go to rooms or public sex, but Sharks didn't allow my female plus one. You may want to call the clubs ahead and ask their current policy.

[QUOTE=Gino02;3017004]Haven't tried this post Covid, but pre Covid few times. Palace, Oase, Manhattan had no issues with me bringing a female guest and go to rooms or public sex, but Sharks didn't allow my female plus one. You may want to call the clubs ahead and ask their current policy.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice!

[QUOTE=CaptainPicard;3016915]I prefer natural / smaller myself and I still have trouble determining which ones offer real GFE before going to a room. They all offer 'GFE' it seems but the service from what I've seen is normally awful and no different than upsellers. Like the Argentina girl from late last year, she was all about the GFE until we got in the room and it was robotic and so bad that I didn't even stay 30 min. However, literally the next girl though was the greatest GFE / service I've ever had, I just spent the rest of the time / money with her. But she left earlier this year and wasn't around in March. It's wild because it seemed like she would be robotic, I only said yes to a room because she was super beautiful, I was expecting an upsell and instead had my mind blown. So much for that I suppose.[/QUOTE]There are many, many instances of pretty girls with great attitudes that are taken off the market by wealthy punters. They don't return. That is what the low level providers and the overchargers do not understand. You win in the long run if you provide value. The demand eventually exceeds your time and people are willing to pay much more to get access. In the past, there were many girls who were in the club, but were not actually available. They were prebooked or had a full schedule as soon as they arrived. They collected their money and left early. That is the benefit of stardard pricing. Less haggling, but the better girls get paid more by tips etc. And the uglies eventually have to settle for lower prices.

Later in September I'll have an 11 hour layover at the Frankfurt airport so I thought that I would visit one of the FKKs in the area. I arrive at 8 am in the morning and my next flight isn't until 7:30 pm but I figure I should be back at the airport by 5:30 pm or so just to be safe. So this will be a daytime hours visit and I've already decided that the RLD is out of the question since not many girls are there during the daytime and my experience there has been terrible. Therefore I'll spend the extra euros for a nicer experience.

Given my timing, I realize that most FKKs will not open until 11 am and I'll have to choose from the daytime lineup. Given these factors, which FKK do you guys think I should visit given that I'll be traveling directly from the airport maybe taking a mix of train and Uber? Should I go to Sharks or The Palace or Mainhatten in the city?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017282]Later in September I'll have an 11 hour layover at the Frankfurt airport so I thought that I would visit one of the FKKs in the area. I arrive at 8 am in the morning and my next flight isn't until 7:30 pm but I figure I should be back at the airport by 5:30 pm or so just to be safe. So this will be a daytime hours visit

Given my timing, I realize that most FKKs will not open until 11 am and I'll have to choose from the daytime lineup. Given these factors, which FKK do you guys think I should visit given that I'll be traveling directly from the airport maybe taking a mix of train and Uber? Should I go to Sharks or The Palace or Mainhatten in the city?[/QUOTE]So, you have three hours to kill in the morning before you enter a FKK club, then have around 6 hours to spend during the daytime in the club.

1. First a reality check. You seem to understand that no FKK club will be at their best between 11 am and 5 pm. All clubs will be quiet with a relatively poor selection. But since this is your first visit to a FKK club, then let's agree to stay positive and adventureous to check things out.

2. Since very few girls will be in attendance prior to 2 pm, I suggest to focus on relaxation the first few hours in the club. Have a bite and a coffee, check out the spa facilities, have a nap. Maybe a therapeutic massage can be what you need after the travel? Just chill. Unless your dream girl suddenly appears.

3. Around 2- 3 pm a few more girls will start arriving. This is the time for you to seriously trying to find targets.

4. Around 3- 4 pm: It is time to make a decision for a date.

5. Take a cab back to the airport at 5 pm latest.

Which club to pick:

1. Sharks is the biggest and most talked about club. You need to find out what the fuss is all about. Pick Sharks.

2. You are not giving us the date of your visit. If there is a big messe in town on the date of your visit (like a car exhibition), then Palace can be a contender in those first hours of a day (before it gets crazy when the messe crowd starts arriving from 5- 6 pm and forward). Check Frankfurt Messe Calendar.

Have fun. And report back of your findings.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3017290]So, you have three hours to kill in the morning before you enter a FKK club, then have around 6 hours to spend during the daytime in the club.

1. First a reality check. You seem to understand that no FKK club will be at their best between 11 am and 5 pm. All clubs will be quiet with a relatively poor selection. But since this is your first visit to a FKK club, then let's agree to stay positive and adventureous to check things out.

2. Since very few girls will be in attendance prior to 2 pm, I suggest to focus on relaxation the first few hours in the club. Have a bite and a coffee, check out the spa facilities, have a nap. Maybe a therapeutic massage can be what you need after the travel? Just chill. Unless your dream girl suddenly appears.

3. Around 2- 3 pm a few more girls will start arriving. This is the time for you to seriously trying to find targets.

4. Around 3- 4 pm: It is time to make a decision for a date.

5. Take a cab back to the airport at 5 pm latest.

Which club to pick:

1. Sharks is the biggest and most talked about club. You need to find out what the fuss is all about. Pick Sharks.

2. You are not giving us the date of your visit. If there is a big messe in town on the date of your visit (like a car exhibition), then Palace can be a contender in those first hours of a day (before it gets crazy when the messe crowd starts arriving from 5- 6 pm and forward). Check Frankfurt Messe Calendar.

Have fun. And report back of your findings.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts. I'll be in Frankfurt on September 23 which is a Tuesday. I've been to FKKs before at Artemis in Berlin and just this past March was in Dusseldorf visiting Acapulco Gold. Enjoyed both visits and took advantage of their buffets as well which I intend to do this time in a Frankfurt area FKK as well. I would be open to just visiting a decent non-FKK brothel in Frankfurt as well but I don't see much intel for any.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017297]Thanks for your thoughts. I'll be in Frankfurt on September 23 which is a Tuesday. I've been to FKKs before at Artemis in Berlin and just this past March was in Dusseldorf visiting Acapulco Gold. Enjoyed both visits and took advantage of their buffets as well which I intend to do this time in a Frankfurt area FKK as well. I would be open to just visiting a decent non-FKK brothel in Frankfurt as well but I don't see much intel for any.[/QUOTE]Frankfurt is an odd duck of a city. Because it has so many FKKs there seems to be a lack of decent brothels. You have instead the choice between FKKs and the RLD. Recent reports on Lusthaus have a few successful RLD visits with decent descriptions. But scan the forum for Fra brothels and all you hear are crickets. The ones reviewed are a good driving distance away in the neighboring cities I've always found this unusual but again might be a case of lack or reviews versus lack of facilities.

In several cities in Germany you can find a small beothel steps from many FKKs. Not a 10-15 girl compound but a tiny converted house. Theres one two blocks up from Coli in Augsburg for example that I've used when I couldn't find a decent girl inside the FKK.

By the way you won't find any better schedules at brothels for a.m. visits unless you book a girl. Imagine if no one is visiting a FKK- who's likely to sneak into a smaller brother.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3017409]Frankfurt ... has so many FKKs there seems to be a lack of decent brothels.

In several cities in Germany you can find a small beothel steps from many FKKs. [/QUOTE]Why do you think this is? Do brothels serve a different function than FKKs?

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3017409]Frankfurt is an odd duck of a city. Because it has so many FKKs there seems to be a lack of decent brothels. You have instead the choice between FKKs and the RLD. Recent reports on Lusthaus have a few successful RLD visits with decent descriptions. But scan the forum for Fra brothels and all you hear are crickets. The ones reviewed are a good driving distance away in the neighboring cities I've always found this unusual but again might be a case of lack or reviews versus lack of facilities.

In several cities in Germany you can find a small beothel steps from many FKKs. Not a 10-15 girl compound but a tiny converted house. Theres one two blocks up from Coli in Augsburg for example that I've used when I couldn't find a decent girl inside the FKK.

By the way you won't find any better schedules at brothels for a.m. visits unless you book a girl. Imagine if no one is visiting a FKK- who's likely to sneak into a smaller brother.[/QUOTE]That's really too bad. I remember when I was in Berlin years ago I visited Artemis which was my first ever FKK. But I didn't want to spend every day there and I was fortunate enough to find a brothel that was even closer to my hotel. Found it online actually. It was in a commercial area in a building on the second floor and you are right, there were only about 8 girls but the one I chose was a rare German girl which was really cool. Then after my session as I was walking back to my hotel, I noticed another similar brothel in another building where the windows on the second floor had red lights.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017297].... which is a Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Tuesday? In daytime? LOL! Oh well. I could not imagine a more terrible timing. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017297] I'll be in Frankfurt on September 23 which is a Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind that Tuesdays are dessous tag days in Sharks; the girls will be covered up. But it would not help to go to Oase either as the girls there are covered up every day!

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017297]Thanks for your thoughts. I'll be in Frankfurt on September 23 which is a Tuesday. I've been to FKKs before at Artemis in Berlin and just this past March was in Dusseldorf visiting Acapulco Gold. Enjoyed both visits and took advantage of their buffets as well which I intend to do this time in a Frankfurt area FKK as well. I would be open to just visiting a decent non-FKK brothel in Frankfurt as well but I don't see much intel for any.[/QUOTE]Even on a Tuesday, worst day to visit, but Sharks should be on higher level than Gold and probably Artemis. Should have around 40/50 girls, really waking up at 2 pm for girls, even some start earlier now. Breakfast till 2.30 pm. Should have around 20 girls at Oase.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3017583]Even on a Tuesday, worst day to visit, but Sharks should be on higher level than Gold and probably Artemis. Should have around 40/50 girls, really waking up at 2 pm for girls, even some start earlier now. Breakfast till 2.30 pm. Should have around 20 girls at Oase.[/QUOTE]Would you say that Sharks is better than Palace and Mainhatten on a Tuesday daytime? I know it's not ideal timing but that's the flights connection schedule I got.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017613]Would you say that Sharks is better than Palace and Mainhatten on a Tuesday daytime? I know it's not ideal timing but that's the flights connection schedule I got.[/QUOTE]Palace and Mainhattan are dead at your time. Sharks will have most girls. Many after 2 pm, even really not best day.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3017657]Palace and Mainhattan are dead at your time. Sharks will have most girls. Many after 2 pm, even really not best day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation of Palace and Mainhattan being dead when I get there. So really only one option left. Sharks it is then! Many thanks again to all who helped me with this choice.

What's the best way to get from the train station in frankfurt to one of the FKKs? Uber? Taxi? Public transportation?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017678]Thanks for the confirmation of Palace and Mainhattan being dead when I get there. So really only one option left. Sharks it is then! Many thanks again to all who helped me with this choice.[/QUOTE]Or, find an escort for incall.

[QUOTE=PhilLatio1978;3017698]What's the best way to get from the train station in frankfurt to one of the FKKs? Uber? Taxi? Public transportation?[/QUOTE]Palace and Mainhattan are inside Frankfurt. Train for Darmstadt for Sharks. Train and walk for Oase. Walking is good for sex.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3017779]Or, find an escort for incall.[/QUOTE]One of the huge benefits of international mongering for me is being able to see and meet girls before committing to a session since online photos can be faked, photoshopped etc which is the case in my home territory Toronto. So I would much rather go to a FKK or brothel (or girlie bar in other countries) to see lineups in person.

Can I use my smartphone between sessions in the clubs? I would have it on silent and just do things like read emails and surf the net. Is this allowed these days? Or, is there a total prohibition of smartphone use in the clubs?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3017814]Can I use my smartphone between sessions in the clubs? I would have it on silent and just do things like read emails and surf the net. Is this allowed these days? Or, is there a total prohibition of smartphone use in the clubs?[/QUOTE]I saw many people using their smartphones IN THE LOCKER-ROOM at Sharks in the past. Dunno about now since bans have become stricter.

I remember being accosted for using not a smartphone but an Amazon Kindle at FKK Palace. After some elaborations as to the nature of the device I was left to read my ebook, but only just.

[QUOTE=XXL;3017820]I saw many people using their smartphones IN THE LOCKER-ROOM at Sharks in the past. Dunno about now since bans have become stricter.

I remember being accosted for using not a smartphone but an Amazon Kindle at FKK Palace. After some elaborations as to the nature of the device I was left to read my ebook, but only just.[/QUOTE]I've never had issues using a smartphone at any FKK "in the locker" area where people continually check their mail / wife's calls / and whatever meeting they pretend to be in.

In some FKKs where the money lockers sit near the front desk, I've seen guys walk to the entry, or even just outside to "quickly" check. Again, rules and managers change but this is from 2025 visits.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3017814]Can I use my smartphone between sessions in the clubs?[/QUOTE]If you ask the receiption at FKK Oase you will be asked to go outside by the entry if you want to use your smartphone. That said, I have seen smartphones been used in the locker rooms and "quiet area" (above the restaurant). I have also seen a guy been scolded by an Oase worker for using a smartphone in the "quiet area". And finally, I have observed a guy been surrounded by several security guys at the Oase pool and asked to delete photos of the girls taken by the pool. No fuss, but totally embarrassing.

I am assuming the other Hessen clubs will act similarly.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3017783]Palace and Mainhattan are inside Frankfurt. Train for Darmstadt for Sharks. Train and walk for Oase. Walking is good for sex.[/QUOTE]Do you walk from the Darmstadt train station to Sharks? I'll also have a small duffle bag as my carry on from the plane with just some clothes, personal items and iPad. Are the lockers at Sharks big enough to store this? I recall the lockers at Acapulco Gold in Dusseldorf were pretty small, like the size of safes in hotel rooms.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017856]Do you walk from the Darmstadt train station to Sharks? I'll also have a small duffle bag as my carry on from the plane with just some clothes, personal items and iPad. Are the lockers at Sharks big enough to store this? I recall the lockers at Acapulco Gold in Dusseldorf were pretty small, like the size of safes in hotel rooms.[/QUOTE]Not very far from one Darmstadt station, look on internet. Desk can take your luggage and nothing to pay for.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017803]One of the huge benefits of international mongering for me is being able to see and meet girls before committing to a session since online photos can be faked, photoshopped etc which is the case in my home territory Toronto. So I would much rather go to a FKK or brothel (or girlie bar in other countries) to see lineups in person.[/QUOTE]Same fake or photoshop quite often now in Paris. In FKKs, You can see and speak before going. Don't go with girls trying to rush you, take your time, don t tell your first time, don't say you are American because meaning big tip for girls. Blond Rachel close to restaurant, brunette Lori sitting at bottom of stairs to rooms, both close to entry, Naomi sitting close to ex kino and corridor to toilets at the end of lounge on left, are good girls. Also tall blond Ela under fish and Ina and Chantel, both blond, on the way to sauna at the end of lounge. Holidays time now, but should have at least 40 girls, when I'm not able to fuck 40 girls in one day.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3017814]Can I use my smartphone between sessions in the clubs? I would have it on silent and just do things like read emails and surf the net. Is this allowed these days? Or, is there a total prohibition of smartphone use in the clubs?[/QUOTE]Yes can use in some parts of clubs, in relaxing room at Oase, in front of desk at Sharks.

Take bus “R” or get a taxi for 12 euros. There are lockers in Darmstadt train station if you want to use.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017856]Do you walk from the Darmstadt train station to Sharks? I'll also have a small duffle bag as my carry on from the plane with just some clothes, personal items and iPad. Are the lockers at Sharks big enough to store this? I recall the lockers at Acapulco Gold in Dusseldorf were pretty small, like the size of safes in hotel rooms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3017856]Do you walk from the Darmstadt train station to Sharks? I'll also have a small duffle bag as my carry on from the plane with just some clothes, personal items and iPad. Are the lockers at Sharks big enough to store this? I recall the lockers at Acapulco Gold in Dusseldorf were pretty small, like the size of safes in hotel rooms.[/QUOTE]Lockers at Sharks are the size of two hotel-room safes at least but they are L-shaped. The walk from the station is a nice walk, weather permitting.

[QUOTE=XXL;3018020]Lockers at Sharks are the size of two hotel-room safes at least but they are L-shaped. The walk from the station is a nice walk, weather permitting.[/QUOTE]Can you put a small over the should backpack in them?

[QUOTE=XXL;3018020]Lockers at Sharks are the size of two hotel-room safes at least but they are L-shaped. The walk from the station is a nice walk, weather permitting.[/QUOTE]That's definitely not enough to fit a duffle / gym bag carry on but I might be able to put my iPad and other tech in there at least. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3018086]That's definitely not enough to fit a duffle / gym bag carry on but I might be able to put my iPad and other tech in there at least. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]As I already wrote, if you ask desk where you pay entry, they will keep safe your luggage.

[QUOTE=XXL;3018020]Lockers at Sharks are the size of two hotel-room safes at least but they are L-shaped. The walk from the station is a nice walk, weather permitting.[/QUOTE]Not same size for all lockers at Sharks. Desk ask me which one I want, desk really improved, but not cookers.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3018067]Can you put a small over the should backpack in them?[/QUOTE]They are big enough to hang up some of your clothes. If you go in winter they are big enough for a little backpack and a coat. Maybe they are not all the same size but they are big enough.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3018086]That's definitely not enough to fit a duffle / gym bag carry on but I might be able to put my iPad and other tech in there at least. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Remember though lockers are not safe. Things have been reported on ISG to have got stolen from them in more than one FKK. That's why I also keep my smartphone in the money lockers (and skip FKKs where there's no provision for keeping valuables).

For FKK Oase I recommend bringing your own safety pin as Oase key-bracelets are faulty. I had the fright of my life last year after discovering my bracelet was missing. Lucky for me the finder brought it back to front-desk (where they scolded me for improper use of their faulty tackle).

Robberies were at Gold and Oase, but Sharks lockers are safe with cameras, if you close well your locker. At Oase and Gold, put your values in small locker.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;3018121]They are big enough to hang up some of your clothes. If you go in winter they are big enough for a little backpack and a coat. Maybe they are not all the same size but they are big enough.[/QUOTE]No longer always the case. They have constructed a large number of half-height lockers. No way for clothes to be hung in these. The clothes have to be carefully folded and stacked on top of each other.

In winter, clothes plus shoes plus winter jacket will fill up almost the whole space of these half-height lockers. I guess a duffle bag can also be squeezed in if you are prepared to have your clothes fully crushed.

What I do in winter is always to come early enough (i.e. before 6pm) to secure a full height locker from the receptionist. Another tip for winter visits - if my jacket is damp or wet from the snow/rain, I use their hairdryer to dry it first to avoid the dampness stinking my clothes when left in the locker.

And make sure you take out your wallet and phone from your pocket before stacking up your clothes; twice I forgot and had to take out all my stacked clothes to locate them. This is not easy if it is crowded and there is no space on the bench to place your stacked clothes.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3018204]No longer always the case. They have constructed a large number of half-height lockers. No way for clothes to be hung in these. The clothes have to be carefully folded and stacked on top of each other.

In winter, clothes plus shoes plus winter jacket will fill up almost the whole space of these half-height lockers. I guess a duffle bag can also be squeezed in if you are prepared to have your clothes fully crushed.

What I do in winter is always to come early enough (i.e. before 6pm) to secure a full height locker from the receptionist. Another tip for winter visits - if my jacket is damp or wet from the snow/rain, I use their hairdryer to dry it first to avoid the dampness stinking my clothes when left in the locker.

And make sure you take out your wallet and phone from your pocket before stacking up your clothes; twice I forgot and had to take out all my stacked clothes to locate them. This is not easy if it is crowded and there is no space on the bench to place your stacked clothes.[/QUOTE]A half height locker should fit my duffle bag as it's very collapsable and just casual clothes and smaller items inside. Plus I'll be arriving probably right at 11 am opening time on a Tuesday so probably hardly anyone there in the locker room. Since I'll have a lot of down time there when I'm not eating nor in a session, it would be nice to take out my iPad for awhile as I assume they have wifi but I don't know if it's allowed at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3018227]A half height locker should fit my duffle bag as it's very collapsable and just casual clothes and smaller items inside. Plus I'll be arriving probably right at 11 am opening time on a Tuesday so probably hardly anyone there in the locker room. Since I'll have a lot of down time there when I'm not eating nor in a session, it would be nice to take out my iPad for awhile as I assume they have wifi but I don't know if it's allowed at Sharks.[/QUOTE]No wifi but connect on your phone. You can use in club entry. If your locker is too small, ask desk to keep your luggage, they will do. At 11 am, you can take breakfast.

Is now possible to have a sleep without problems in FKK before a very early flight? I did this maybe 10 years ago and didn't have any problems, I just put sign Besetzt outside a door and had good 4-5 hour sleep before heading to the airport. Now I will have 5 am flight out of Frankfurt, so I recon I need to leave 2. 30-3 am (I will have a rental car), really don't want to stay in hotel that last night, rather, spend it in FKK Oase or Sharks or Mainhattan, but ideally go to sleep in one of the rooms between 10 pm - 2. 30 am. Which would be the best club to get sleep without being bothered?

[QUOTE=TomRifle;3018431]Is now possible to have a sleep without problems in FKK before a very early flight? I did this maybe 10 years ago and didn't have any problems, I just put sign Besetzt outside a door and had good 4-5 hour sleep before heading to the airport. Now I will have 5 am flight out of Frankfurt, so I recon I need to leave 2. 30-3 am (I will have a rental car), really don't want to stay in hotel that last night, rather, spend it in FKK Oase or Sharks or Mainhattan, but ideally go to sleep in one of the rooms between 10 pm - 2. 30 am. Which would be the best club to get sleep without being bothered?[/QUOTE]Oase have a separate rather large room with loungers (opposite the sauna). That room is isolated from noise and other nuisances. At Sharks you can lie down on one of the upstairs sofas if the club is not too full but you will hear ambient noise from below and breathe in some smoke. I think Oase is the better of the two for what you have in mind.

You can catch a glimpse of Oase's lounge on this vid at 1:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjL5l6iRS_A

The shape of the loungers might pose a problem for sleep. They remind me of KLM's earlier business class seats, where I could neither fall asleep nor sit comfortably.

The following vid shows the upstair sofas at Shark's, time-stamp 0:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArFZz0yLTDk&t=35s

In both clubs, on a wam dry day you could sleep in the outdoor area around the pool. You should however check the prospective temperature at your sleeping hours though, steep temperature drops are common after dusk in this part of the World.

[QUOTE=TomRifle;3018431]Is now possible to have a sleep without problems in FKK before a very early flight? I did this maybe 10 years ago and didn't have any problems, I just put sign Besetzt outside a door and had good 4-5 hour sleep before heading to the airport. Now I will have 5 am flight out of Frankfurt, so I recon I need to leave 2. 30-3 am (I will have a rental car), really don't want to stay in hotel that last night, rather, spend it in FKK Oase or Sharks or Mainhattan, but ideally go to sleep in one of the rooms between 10 pm - 2. 30 am. Which would be the best club to get sleep without being bothered?[/QUOTE]Not in room, but relaxing room at Oase, relaxing space at Mainhattan and mezzanine at Sharks or some places in garden on warm Summer.

[QUOTE=TomRifle;3018431]Is now possible to have a sleep without problems in FKK before a very early flight? I did this maybe 10 years ago and didn't have any problems, I just put sign Besetzt outside a door[/QUOTE]Not possible to do this at Oase as the girls have to draw out a key.

Can be done in Sharks. However, the Besetzt sign is often ignored; instead, slip a large piece of paper from the roll prominently on the side of the door. This is the new code among the girls that the room is occupied.

[QUOTE=TomRifle;3018431]Is now possible to have a sleep without problems in FKK before a very early flight? I did this maybe 10 years ago and didn't have any problems, I just put sign Besetzt outside a door and had good 4-5 hour sleep before heading to the airport. Now I will have 5 am flight out of Frankfurt, so I recon I need to leave 2. 30-3 am (I will have a rental car), really don't want to stay in hotel that last night, rather, spend it in FKK Oase or Sharks or Mainhattan, but ideally go to sleep in one of the rooms between 10 pm - 2. 30 am. Which would be the best club to get sleep without being bothered?[/QUOTE]I did at Artemis many years ago. It was during an afternoon when it was quite quiet and I just went to a lounge that was kind of in one end where nothing much was happening as I pretty well had the room to myself. There were loungers there I could kind of lie down on. Like beach chairs.

Hi, we're going to have a roadtrip in NRW with our base in Ratingen outside Düsseldorf this forthcoming weekend. The weather is supposed to be great, so I wonder if you guys could tell me which clubs offer an outside area, swimmingpool etc. As far as I know from experience there's a nice outside area at Aca Prime and Babylon in Elsdorf. Any other suggestions?

[QUOTE=Sucker17;3019184]Hi, we're going to have a roadtrip in NRW with our base in Ratingen outside Dsseldorf this forthcoming weekend. The weather is supposed to be great, so I wonder if you guys could tell me which clubs offer an outside area, swimmingpool etc. As far as I know from experience there's a nice outside area at Aca Prime and Babylon in Elsdorf. Any other suggestions?[/QUOTE]Yes, at Bab but quite far from airport, also at Prime Velbert and best should be Penelope Castrop Rauxel. Also 6 sens and YY just on border.

I was thinking about visiting an FKK this week (still undecided between theüsseldorf and Frankfurt), but after your conversation, I'm not so sure anymore.

In the end, it costs about the same as escorts in Paris, plus I have to pay for transportation and entry. So I'm hesitating.

[QUOTE=Blancoco12;3019209]I was thinking about visiting an FKK this week (still undecided between thesseldorf and Frankfurt), but after your conversation, I'm not so sure anymore.

In the end, it costs about the same as escorts in Paris, plus I have to pay for transportation and entry. So I'm hesitating.[/QUOTE]50/30 in NRW and you see for real and can chat, rather than fake photos from 10 years ago with 10 kgs less. For 235, you can have 4 rooms, foods, drinks, swimming pool, sauna and seeing many asses.

[QUOTE=Blancoco12;3019209]I was thinking about visiting an FKK this week (still undecided between Dusseldorf and Frankfurt), but after your conversation, I'm not so sure anymore. In the end, it costs about the same as escorts in Paris, plus I have to pay for transportation and entry. So I'm hesitating.[/QUOTE]It's a unique experience every man should have at least once in his life. If you have never been, then go!

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019424]My last visit to FKKs was in 2020 where my 3 month visit was cut short to 2 months by covid. I know FKKs have moved on from 50/30 for everything. However, I think FKKs have the hottest girls in world P4P today and they're always worth a visit. However, service has always been iffy and with higher prices and being unable to disguise my nationality shifting my frequent and long visits over to the second best, Brazil, where superb service is the norm, seems an attractive option.[/QUOTE]Dear Turgid,
I think you worry too much. Upselling / rip offs are nothing new at the FKKs. You have handled it well in the past. I see no reason why you should not handle it well this time as well. The girls at the FKK clubs are still just as hot (if you know where to look)! And the good girls really can't resist a daily visitor. You are pure gold to them!

Americans are blessed with choice: Brazil, Colombia, DR, usw. I fully understand that you partake in those scenes. That said, I think it is a bit unfair to compare a 1st world scene as the Germany FKK clubs to Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines and what have you. Apples and oranges. If you must compare the Germany FKK scene with something, then compare it to Spain, Switzerland, Prague, NL, Canada and the good ol' US. Suddenly it is not that bad at all.

Back in the day Americans usually emphasized the following when considering the German FKK scene:

- It's perfectly legal.

- Germany is totally safe (crime at a minumum).

- Very little lingual barriers (English is widely spoken by both the locals, the clubs and the girls).

- Very little cultural barriers. Germany is SO easy to navigate in. Accomodation, food, transportation. Dare I say better highways?

- The spa ambience and chill out atmosphere at the FKK clubs being surrounded by 20,30, 50,100+ barely dressed girls with indecent proposals .... That is something else. It so organized like only Germans can (locker rooms, separate money lockers, showers, living room, restaurant with free food and coffe, sauna, lovely gardens, massage, usw.). The experience is truly unique.

Ok, some things are lost on the way:

- It is a lot more expensive than before (but is there really a place in the world where the prices have not gone up?
- More upselling (now, THAT is totally annoying, but can be handled; see my previous report).
- More clothes on the girls (I hate it, but cheer on all girls that stick to good ol' FKK formula).
- The average age has gone up (from 20- 35 to 20- 40), but renewal of lineups has not stopped. You just need to know where to look (and FKK Sharks is not a bad choice).

I totally understand the fascination for Brazil and other places. But I don't think you will regret another visit to this side of the pond. Maybe try a shorter visit (3 weeks in stead of 3 months) at this time to see for yourself?

Are there girls of Arab or Persian descent in any FKKs? I have a fantasy of experiencing anal sex with Arab and Persian girls.

Thank you for any names or FKKs I might look to.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyCool76;3019492]Are there girls of Arab or Persian descent in any FKKs? I have a fantasy of experiencing anal sex with Arab and Persian girls.

Thank you for any names or FKKs I might look to.[/QUOTE]Tunisian Maxima with big ass and silicon at Sharks. Asking very expensive and not sure for anal.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyCool76;3019492]Are there girls of Arab or Persian descent in any FKKs? I have a fantasy of experiencing anal sex with Arab and Persian girls.

Thank you for any names or FKKs I might look to.[/QUOTE]A Syrian and Moraccan girl at FKK OASE.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyCool76;3019492]Are there girls of Arab or Persian descent in any FKKs? I have a fantasy of experiencing anal sex with Arab and Persian girls.

Thank you for any names or FKKs I might look to.[/QUOTE]There is a Syrian girl and a moroccan girl at FKK OASE. The line up there is more international than any other clubs with Germans, Italian, Ukrainian, and Africans.

[QUOTE=Long420;3019592]There is a Syrian girl and a moroccan girl at FKK OASE. The line up there is more international than any other clubs with Germans, Italian, Ukrainian, and Africans.[/QUOTE]Do the Syrian and Moroccan offer anal?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3019538]Tunisian Maxima with big ass and silicon at Sharks. Asking very expensive and not sure for anal.[/QUOTE]Meaning she is asking more than others for a room?

[QUOTE=BigDaddyCool76;3019621]Meaning she is asking more than others for a room?[/QUOTE]More than her level, 150/30 and 250/60. There is a half Syrian at Oase.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3019460]Dear Turgid,
I think you worry too much. Upselling / rip offs are nothing new at the FKKs. You have handled it well in the past. I see no reason why you should not handle it well this time as well. The girls at the FKK clubs are still just as hot (if you know where to look)! And the good girls really can't resist a daily visitor. You are pure gold to them!

Americans are blessed with choice: Brazil, Colombia, DR, usw. I fully understand that you partake in those scenes. That said, I think it is a bit unfair to compare a 1st world scene as the Germany FKK clubs to Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines and what have you. Apples and oranges. If you must compare the Germany FKK scene with something, then compare it to Spain, Switzerland, Prague, NL, Canada and the good ol' US. Suddenly it is not that bad at all.

Back in the day Americans usually emphasized the following when considering the German FKK scene:

- It's perfectly legal.

- Germany is totally safe (crime at a minumum).

- Very little lingual barriers (English is widely spoken by both the locals, the clubs and the girls).

- Very little cultural barriers. Germany is SO easy to navigate in. Accomodation, food, transportation. Dare I say better highways?

- The spa ambience and chill out atmosphere at the FKK clubs being surrounded by 20,30, 50,100+ barely dressed girls with indecent proposals .... That is something else. It so organized like only Germans can (locker rooms, separate money lockers, showers, living room, restaurant with free food and coffe, sauna, lovely gardens, massage, usw.). The experience is truly unique.

Ok, some things are lost on the way:

- It is a lot more expensive than before (but is there really a place in the world where the prices have not gone up?
- More upselling (now, THAT is totally annoying, but can be handled; see my previous report).
- More clothes on the girls (I hate it, but cheer on all girls that stick to good ol' FKK formula).
- The average age has gone up (from 20- 35 to 20- 40), but renewal of lineups has not stopped. You just need to know where to look (and FKK Sharks is not a bad choice).

I totally understand the fascination for Brazil and other places. But I don't think you will regret another visit to this side of the pond. Maybe try a shorter visit (3 weeks in stead of 3 months) at this time to see for yourself?[/QUOTE]You must be a lawyer, you put forward a very good case for returning to FKKs.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyCool76;3019621]Meaning she is asking more than others for a room?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for an exotic Arabic or Iranian girl, you will be on the totally wrong track looking for Maxima. To get in image of Maxima, think of a fair French girl with chic cropped hair, prominent silicone boobs, and snooty demeanour.

Last year, there was a petite pretty girl sitting at the rear who claimed she was from Iran. I would have tried her had I not been busy. Did not see her again.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3019700]If you are looking for an exotic Arabic or Iranian girl, you will be on the totally wrong track looking for Maxima. To get in image of Maxima, think of a fair French girl with chic cropped hair, prominent silicone boobs, and snooty demeanour.

Last year, there was a petite pretty girl sitting at the rear who claimed she was from Iran. I would have tried her had I not been busy. Did not see her again.[/QUOTE]Maxima is the French-speaking girl claiming to be from Tunisia if I'm not mistaken. She has probably genuine Tunisian blood but that's about as far as her being an arab woman goes. Her French is unaccented, like that of a TV anchor. "Frenchmen" who grew up in arab-dominated suburbs speak with a recognizable lowbrow ethnic accent.

Hi fellas,

Has anyone seen Lizzy from Sixsens or Amy from YinYang recently, within the last two months or so? These are two of my favorites in NL, where stunners are relatively hard to come by. I hope they were taking the summer holiday. Would be sad if they're gone for good.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;3021426]Hi fellas,

Has anyone seen Lizzy from Sixsens or Amy from YinYang recently, within the last two months or so? These are two of my favorites in NL, where stunners are relatively hard to come by. I hope they were taking the summer holiday. Would be sad if they're gone for good.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]Amy big silicon was still at YY not so long ago.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3021510]Amy big silicon was still at YY not so long ago.[/QUOTE]That's good to hear. When did you last spot her at YY, in July?

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;3021544]That's good to hear. When did you last spot her at YY, in July?[/QUOTE]Holidays time now, let s see if she returns. She works at YY after GG.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3021510]Amy big silicon was still at YY not so long ago.[/QUOTE]I confirm Amy is at YY.

How many of you guys are like me? I look at my contacts list and find that it's full of girls from all over the world. And yet, I rarely ever contact these hoors, even upon subsequent trips to their countries. I'm much more inclined to seek out new booty. Yeah, there's always that one here and there who is an irresistible multiple repeat. But for the most part, I never contact the tutes in my contacts list and eventually delete them. How many of you guys do the same? Get phone numbers from lots of girls but rarely ever contact the girls you got them from, for whatever reason?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3022762]How many of you guys are like me? I look at my contacts list and find that it's full of girls from all over the world. And yet, I rarely ever contact these hoors, even upon subsequent trips to their countries.[/QUOTE]In Germany it's no but in Pattaya I collect and save numbers / Line ID's as I do repeat at times.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3022762]How many of you guys are like me? I look at my contacts list and find that it's full of girls from all over the world. And yet, I rarely ever contact these hoors, even upon subsequent trips to their countries. I'm much more inclined to seek out new booty. Yeah, there's always that one here and there who is an irresistible multiple repeat. But for the most part, I never contact the tutes in my contacts list and eventually delete them. How many of you guys do the same? Get phone numbers from lots of girls but rarely ever contact the girls you got them from, for whatever reason?[/QUOTE]I never collect contact info from pros, only non-pros and I have very few. There's always the chance of meeting hotter pros on future visits.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3022865]I never collect contact info from pros, only non-pros and I have very few. There's always the chance of meeting hotter pros on future visits.[/QUOTE]ProTip: No matter how good she is, there is always one better, keep looking.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3022762]How many of you guys are like me? I look at my contacts list and find that it's full of girls from all over the world. And yet, I rarely ever contact these hoors, even upon subsequent trips to their countries. I'm much more inclined to seek out new booty. Yeah, there's always that one here and there who is an irresistible multiple repeat. But for the most part, I never contact the tutes in my contacts list and eventually delete them. How many of you guys do the same? Get phone numbers from lots of girls but rarely ever contact the girls you got them from, for whatever reason?[/QUOTE]I take numbers in South America all the time but rarely in Europe. A lot of the girls will change their numbers but I never delete any numbers as I like to watch their WhatsApp status.

My trip will be Oct 12 to 20. All these FKK clubs are 40 minutes to 90 minutes around Frankfurt, spread out in all directions, where is the best place to stay for a week? Assuming I will try 3 to 4 of them, and maybe I should go to cologne after 3 or 4 days? I will have to come back to Frankfurt for the fly tho.

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023669]My trip will be Oct 12 to 20. All these FKK clubs are 40 minutes to 90 minutes around Frankfurt, spread out in all directions, where is the best place to stay for a week? Assuming I will try 3 to 4 of them, and maybe I should go to cologne after 3 or 4 days? I will have to come back to Frankfurt for the fly tho.[/QUOTE]Relax. It is not that complicated.

So, you will have 8 days in Frankfurt, whereof only 2- 6 quality days (Wednesday through Sunday)?

1.

First advice, skip Cologne when in Frankfurt. Cologne is nice, but there is nothing there with your feet on the ground in Frankfurt. Unless you are specifically looking for cheap options.

2.

If first time in Frankfurt, I suggest being adventureous focusing on the four major FKK clubs (Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace). Then pick 1- 2 days to repeat the best clubs you find. Take Monday and Tuesday off (do some tourist stuff or go to Sharks as the girls take those days off with slim pickings).

3.

Where to stay. Well, it depends on your plans and budget. You sound like an American. Dare I suggest a car rental? Look for a hotel near the autobahn (A5). My personal favourite is a budget hotel chain called B&B. Reasonably priced. Service 24/7. Good English. Free parking. Most FKK clubs will be within 10- 20 mnts reach. So easy. Even the FKK clubs in central Frankfurt (Palace, Mainhattan) have easy and free parking in the neighbourhood.

If planning on visiting Sharks most of the time, then simply find a hotel in Darmstadt (and skip the car rental for those days).

If you insist on doing public transport (highy recommended for hard drinkers), you can either (I) find a hotel near the main train station (but NOT in the RLD district), or (ii) find a hotel near each club you plan on visiting. It depends on if you are able to travel light and / or if you plan on visiting in late night hours and/or how sensitive to taxi costs you are.

Have fun. Perhaps we can hope for a trip report? It would be interesting to know how it went for those planning to follow.

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023669]My trip will be Oct 12 to 20. All these FKK clubs are 40 minutes to 90 minutes around Frankfurt, spread out in all directions, where is the best place to stay for a week? Assuming I will try 3 to 4 of them, and maybe I should go to cologne after 3 or 4 days? I will have to come back to Frankfurt for the fly tho.[/QUOTE]Monday and Tuesday are low casting days in FKK. Koln worth a visit on these days. My advice: start with Sharks, then Oase, then Mainhattan. Palace is quite dead til 7 pm and no outdoor. Sharks have most girls. Don t say you are newbie. You can have breakfast and diner in clubs, included in entry. HH at Mainhattan. Better to go to Sharks on Wednesday and Sunday.

[QUOTE=DasBooty;3023196]I take numbers in South America all the time but rarely in Europe. A lot of the girls will change their numbers but I never delete any numbers as I like to watch their WhatsApp status.[/QUOTE]Prior to 2010 I used to take numbers and actually had fun times out of the club with some girls who worked at Oase. Times have changed, I would not take FKK girls numbers now as it would be way too expensive to meet them outside.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3023676]Relax. It is not that complicated.

So, you will have 8 days in Frankfurt, whereof only 2- 6 quality days (Wednesday through Sunday)?

1.

First advice, skip Cologne when in Frankfurt. Cologne is nice, but there is nothing there with your feet on the ground in Frankfurt. Unless you are specifically looking for cheap options..[/QUOTE]I'm curious, why do say skip car rental for Sharks? I thought that was the best option since sharks is 30-40 minutes south of Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3023804]I'm curious, why do say skip car rental for Sharks? I thought that was the best option since sharks is 30-40 minutes south of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Much easier and flexible if you have a car. Just no drinking alcohol.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3023804]I'm curious, why do say skip car rental for Sharks? I thought that was the best option since sharks is 30-40 minutes south of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]How is Frankfurt relevant when the suggestion was to find a hotel in Darmstadt?

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3023804]I'm curious, why do say skip car rental for Sharks? I thought that was the best option since sharks is 30-40 minutes south of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]What he means is this:

If you are going to spend a few days in a row at Sharks, you don't need a rental car for those days. You can stay at Dormero Darmstadt, for example, which is a 5-10 minute walk from Sharks. I have good experience staying there, both with and without a rental car (parking in the basement). 30-40 min drive to Oase, 5-10 min walk to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3023680]Monday and Tuesday are low casting days in FKK. Koln worth a visit on these days. My advice: start with Sharks, then Oase, then Mainhattan. Palace is quite dead til 7 pm and no outdoor. Sharks have most girls. Don t say you are newbie. You can have breakfast and diner in clubs, included in entry. HH at Mainhattan. Better to go to Sharks on Wednesday and Sunday.[/QUOTE]I think I am going to take action right after I get out of the airport on Sunday morning, if Sun, Mon, Tue are quite dead, where else can I go other than Sharks? Is the Ero building in RLD a good option?

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023887]I think I am going to take action right after I get out of the airport on Sunday morning, if Sun, Mon, Tue are quite dead, where else can I go other than Sharks? Is the Ero building in RLD a good option?[/QUOTE]Mondays and Tuesdays are quiet happening in FKK Oase than other clubs.

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023887]I think I am going to take action right after I get out of the airport on Sunday morning, if Sun, Mon, Tue are quite dead, where else can I go other than Sharks? Is the Ero building in RLD a good option?[/QUOTE]Read better: Sharks open at 10 am with entry 50 before 2 pm and is best around Frankfurt on Sunday, even really waking up around 4 pm, but some good girls start early, few even before noon. If you find good girls for you, ask them if they work on Monday and Tuesday which are slower days, when RLD is mostly low quality. Sharks is also best on Wednesday with entry 50. I would try Oase on Thursday. When you are a demanding regular only looking for quality, you don't pay more expensive entry on Monday or Tuesday = 65, for a lower casting, except if you have appointment with a great girl for high quality. Better not to tip, or you will be fast known as a tourist to fuck.

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023887]I think I am going to take action right after I get out of the airport on Sunday morning, if Sun, Mon, Tue are quite dead, where else can I go other than Sharks? Is the Ero building in RLD a good option?[/QUOTE]Dude pay no attention to the person who's telling you about lineups, etc. Get on the bus to Darmstadt after you arrive, check into the dormero or Intercontinental head over to sharks. Eat some food, chill, hope you'll have a nice day, get some pussy. I'm hearing you can smoke weed there too.

That's my plan for when I arrive for a layover in 2 weeks or so.

[QUOTE=DriftClouds;3023887]I think I am going to take action right after I get out of the airport on Sunday morning, if Sun, Mon, Tue are quite dead, where else can I go other than Sharks? Is the Ero building in RLD a good option?[/QUOTE]In my opinion RLD in Frankfurt is NOT a good alternative to a maybe slow day at Sharks. Slow day at Sharks are way better than RLD on any given day. RLD is lots, I mean very much, walking in stairs and searching for low quality girls. Much better to spend some lazy hours at Sharks, eat ok food, have lots of very hot girls around you and maybe do a room or two. I have done the RLD a couple of times, will not repeat!

[QUOTE=Nr71;3023996]In my opinion RLD in Frankfurt is NOT a good alternative to a maybe slow day at Sharks. Slow day at Sharks are way better than RLD on any given day. RLD is lots, I mean very much, walking in stairs and searching for low quality girls. Much better to spend some lazy hours at Sharks, eat ok food, have lots of very hot girls around you and maybe do a room or two. I have done the RLD a couple of times, will not repeat![/QUOTE]I totally agree with this as my visit and session at RDL earlier this year was a disaster! I cut the session short as the one decent looking girl there was so bad for service. That's why later in Sept when I have my layover, I'm heading down to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3024013]I totally agree with this as my visit and session at RDL earlier this year was a disaster! I cut the session short as the one decent looking girl there was so bad for service. That's why later in Sept when I have my layover, I'm heading down to Sharks.[/QUOTE]The RLD requires a lot of work. First to find a suitable playmate, and having found her after much searching you have to ensure that she reacts to you in a pleasant manner. Just finding a hot hooker will not cut it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3024325]The RLD requires a lot of work. First to find a suitable playmate, and having found her after much searching you have to ensure that she reacts to you in a pleasant manner. Just finding a hot hooker will not cut it.[/QUOTE]No shower and 50/15 for suck and fuck is not good value for me. 100/30+ for real GFE with a good hygiene real beauty is less expensive for me, same than natural beauties are always less expensive and better than average looks or porn dolls for me. Each one own standards for quality, when I hate to waste my money for low quality.

Either skip the car rental or skip the hotel. If one obtains a car then a hotel is not needed by keeping a few airplane blankets and an airplane pillow to sleep in the car and block the sun from the car windows which sleeping should occur from 4 am to 11 am.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3023804]I'm curious, why do say skip car rental for Sharks? I thought that was the best option since sharks is 30-40 minutes south of Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrPoon;3024958]Either skip the car rental or skip the hotel. If one obtains a car then a hotel is not needed by keeping a few airplane blankets and an airplane pillow to sleep in the car and block the sun from the car windows which sleeping should occur from 4 am to 11 am.[/QUOTE]You can sleep in car, like I do in my white leather V8 hotel, but this is not allowed in towns. Go to autobahns parking areas.

We need a map of the parking areas nearest to each club.

I remember I just parked in a random parking lot back when Golden Time was around.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3025025]You can sleep in car, like I do in my white leather V8 hotel, but this is not allowed in towns. Go to autobahns parking areas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3025025]You can sleep in car, like I do in my white leather V8 hotel, but this is not allowed in towns. Go to autobahns parking areas.[/QUOTE]Sharks is closed only between 5 and 10 am on week end.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;3025116]We need a map of the parking areas nearest to each club.
[/QUOTE]I would also find this info very useful.

Thanks also to Siri, I didn't know sleeping in cars is not allowed in towns. I am actually visiting Oase and Sharks in the end of this coming week, using my car as a hotel. Sounds probably strange, but it is much better than it sounds.

Looks like I will be making my annual trip to Frankfurt next week. Normally I would go:

Wed Sharks.

Thurs Oase.

Friday Palace.

Saturday Return to favourite.

Hopefully the weather will be nice enough to enjoy the outdoors. Bearing in mind that Palace doesn't have an outdoor area and doesn't get going until around 7 pm thinking about spending daylight hours at either Oase or Mainhatten. I only went to the latter many years ago and was underwhelmed and recall it had a fairly small outdoor area but is it worth spending the day there as opposed to Oase? I suppose if I'm wowed by the talent at Oase it's an easy choice to return the next day. It's a shame that World is and has been for a long time, mediocre as I would be tempted to spend the daytime there.

A few othef questions:

How many girls can I expect to see at Palace on a Friday night? Hopefully around 40 to choose from.

I assume reduced early entry before 5 pm at Palace is a relic of the past.

Also assume the Oase shuttle bus from the HBF has not been re-introduced.

In sharks and Oase, I assume standard price remains 100/30 and either 150/60 or 200/60 depending on the girl. I k ow many will quote silly prices beyond that but they will be given short shrift.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3025958]Looks like I will be making my annual trip to Frankfurt next week. Normally I would go:

Wed Sharks.

Thurs Oase.

Friday Palace.

Saturday Return to favourite.

Hopefully the weather will be nice enough to enjoy the outdoors. Bearing in mind that Palace doesn't have an outdoor area and doesn't get going until around 7 pm thinking about spending daylight hours at either Oase or Mainhatten. I only went to the latter many years ago and was underwhelmed and recall it had a fairly small outdoor area but is it worth spending the day there as opposed to Oase? I suppose if I'm wowed by the talent at Oase it's an easy choice to return the next day. It's a shame that World is and has been for a long time, mediocre as I would be tempted to spend the daytime there.[/QUOTE]Sharks is not at best for casting at the moment for me, even most numerous girls and best on early day, compare to others. Mainhattan and Palace are quite dead on early day. Many girls seem now on holidays.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3025958]
How many girls can I expect to see at Palace on a Friday night? Hopefully around 40 to choose from.[/QUOTE]Yeah, 35- 40 sound about right for a Friday evening.

You can hope for nice weather and temperature in the high 60's in the afternoon. Perfect for chilling in a garden. Though I bet the girls will stay inside leaving the garden closer to empty. Bring a book if easily bored.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3025965]Sharks is not at best for casting at the moment for me, even most numerous girls and best on early day, compare to others. Mainhattan and Palace are quite dead on early day. Many girls seem now on holidays.[/QUOTE]I'll have no choice when I come for my day time airport layover in two weeks. Either take a trip to Sharks or stay at the airport for 11 hours.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3026144]I'll have no choice when I come for my day time airport layover in two weeks. Either take a trip to Sharks or stay at the airport for 11 hours.[/QUOTE]Sharks casting seem to improve on this week end, when I was disappointed by looks on 3 September. As I wrote: Best around Frankfurt on day time, even some girls start late.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3026144]I'll have no choice when I come for my day time airport layover in two weeks. Either take a trip to Sharks or stay at the airport for 11 hours.[/QUOTE]Don't pay attention to the so-called experts who criticized the girls,. It will be fine, I'm doing the same thing as you except I'm doing an overnight layover which will give me an afternoon and an evening of fun with white European girls instead of the Asian girls I get for the rest of the year in Bangkok and Cambodia. I'm sure there will be more girls in sharks when you arrive then you will know what to do with.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3026362] I'll have no choice when I come for my day time airport layover in two weeks. Either take a trip to Sharks or stay at the airport for 11 hours.[/QUOTE]

Completely agree on the experience. Even at "not the best" the selection and quantity will be enough to make for a decent room or TWO.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3026362]Don't pay attention to the so-called experts who criticized the girls,. It will be fine, I'm doing the same thing as you except I'm doing an overnight layover which will give me an afternoon and an evening of fun with white European girls instead of the Asian girls I get for the rest of the year in Bangkok and Cambodia. I'm sure there will be more girls in sharks when you arrive then you will know what to do with.[/QUOTE]For sure, when your references are Thai or US looks, You may dream in FKK, not only at Sharks, but we don't all have same level for standards and I may be the pickiest in FKKs. 1,85 Ada at YY impressed my eyes, reminding me Kelli in Hessen and Globe, for who know a bit the business. Less girls, but I found YY casting with more attractive profiles than at Sharks on my last visit and I was happy to have 2 140/60+ with good, fluent, real FK rooms with 2 woman types who worth more expensive than little girls for me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3026444]For sure, when your references are Thai or US looks, You may dream in FKK, not only at Sharks, but we don't all have same level for standards and I may be the pickiest in FKKs. 1,85 Ada at YY impressed my eyes, reminding me Kelli in Hessen and Globe, for who know a bit the business. Less girls, but I found YY casting with more attractive profiles than at Sharks on my last visit and I was happy to have 2 140/60+ with good, fluent, real FK rooms with 2 woman types who worth more expensive than little girls for me.[/QUOTE]And after my YY visit, when Ada is really supermodel look, 1,85 bare feet and ponytail falling to nearly ass and elegant lady in red Russia, when Ada is far higher level for brain than most FKK girls and Russia is a real woman in bed, with such potential and stamina, really not a small pussy, woman types are so much more interesting for sex and worth more expensive for me than schoolgirls types with small pussy not able to really fuck, even Chantal is told to have good potential at Sharks.

Where is the best to get a good regular massage in Frankfurt? (No sex).

Are any of the FKK good for a regular massage?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3026761]Where is the best to get a good regular massage in Frankfurt? (No sex).

Are any of the FKK good for a regular massage?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Any FKK, like Sharks. They have professional masseuses that are really good.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3026761]Where is the best to get a good regular massage in Frankfurt? (No sex).

Are any of the FKK good for a regular massage?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I am curious what a good massage is for you. I kinda like Thai massages or the one's I would get at oriental massage parlor. I got one like that at Sharks and I did try massage parlor outside of the RLD in Frankfurt that was eerily similar to what I have been to before. I think something like the chain MassageEnvy in the USA is so ridiculously bad it is not funny. I can't have a dude giving it either. There are insane options for massage in Frankfurt in my mind.

[QUOTE=Akibono;3026839]Any FKK, like Sharks. They have professional masseuses that are really good.[/QUOTE]How much do they charge?

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3026850]How much do they charge?[/QUOTE]It isn't overpriced for a Western country. I would say it is the going rate. It isn't part of the cover charge.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;3026948]It isn't overpriced for a Western country. I would say it is the going rate. It isn't part of the cover charge.[/QUOTE]Generally you can reckon with 1 Euro / minute for an hour, bit more if you buy in 30 minute increments. A bit more some places, a bit less in the smaller clubs.

The two best are Coliseum in Augsberg and Atmos, south of Hamburg.

Coli FKK is weak, never recovered from COVID loss of clients. But the Turk there is among the best therapists anywhere in the world and remembered me even after 9 months away!

The Scandinavia lady at the FKK in Hamburg is amazing. SHe's the one that makes it hardest for me not to be fully erect. She has some funny stories and tries her hardest to get you to "lie down".

I'm tempted next time to see if she'll let me bring a girl in to help ME destress in the lower regions. Still she's amazing. She only works a few days. Seriously, if she was outside of a club, I'd be there weeekly, regardless. REminds me of a lady in Mexico that could make a man cum with just the thigh massage.

There's a Thai lady in Stuttgart who walks on your back. The guy in Vienna is very good, and doesn't clock watch. In Palace in Frankfurt there are two. One was married to the weekend DJ, if she's still there, if not the Polish lady. Haven't been in a year, but Barbara who works in the main room offers one of the best anal experiences, so it can be a great evening!

There are a couple ladies across various clubs who who love to accidently bump the jewels. I can't imagine this isn't intentional, so I try to visit AFTER a room.

So, in case you're wondering. I try EVERY chance I get.

Hi, sorry for asking again.

I'm planning to travel for 2-3 days starting tomorrow or Thursday, and I was wondering which FKK clubs are good recently? (I'll be using public transportation.).

I haven't decided yet whether I'll visit just one or multiple FKK places.

1. Is NRW still the best in terms of cost-performance? Which places are good when traveling by public transportation?

2. Which establishment currently has the most attractive women?

And I've never been on a wenesday or Thursday, is it okay to go then?

TYU.

[QUOTE=Blancoco12;3027994]Hi, sorry for asking again.

I'm planning to travel for 2-3 days starting tomorrow or Thursday, and I was wondering which FKK clubs are good recently? (I'll be using public transportation.).

I haven't decided yet whether I'll visit just one or multiple FKK places.

1. Is NRW still the best in terms of cost-performance? Which places are good when traveling by public transportation?

2. Which establishment currently has the most attractive women?

And I've never been on a wenesday or Thursday, is it okay to go then?

TYU.[/QUOTE]Except Samya and Magnum, NRW is best value for money, with Gold, Penelope and Prime, with girls for 50/30.

I'm happy to share some thoughts on the above-referenced subject. When it comes to getting anal, I've had a tremendous amount of success in Germany. During my last trip throughout Germany, I fucked about 70% of the girls I went with in their assholes. The only place where access to the ass has been as good is in Brazil, where my number could hit 100% if I lowered my standards (whole other discussion).

Now when it comes to anal, if you want it, then you need to go to places where it's most likely to be obtained. For me, in Germany, that has been Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin. Stay away from the NRW area. Not that there is NO chance there, but it's just much harder to get. At least for me it has been.

Second, when I go to the clubs, I don't chase after the girls. I rarely ever approach anybody. It's not that I'm shy or feel awkward or whatever. It's just that I'm at the clubs to relax and enjoy. I don't want to work. If I did, then I could go to a "regular" club for that. At an FKK club, the girls want you. Or at least your money LOL! You want these fists full of money? Then come get it! The only time I ever chase is if I see somebody I just got to have. And that happens only maybe once in an entire two to four week trip.

So I'll grab a drink. Maybe walk around a bit if I haven't been in the club for awhile. Check out the talent, and I'll eventually park myself somewhere in a high foot traffic area. See somebody I like, or she likes me, and we smile. That's all it takes for her to come over and strike up a conversation. And if she has any sales skills at all, the first thing out of her mouth isn't to ask me if I'm ready to go to the room. And the first thing out of my mouth is not to ask her if I can fuck her in the butt LOLOLOL!

No, it usually starts with some pleasantries. Where are you from, your name, blah, blah, blah. That goes on for a few minutes. Then either she or I will ask if we might like to go to the room. At that point, instead of asking the girl what she does, I will just say what I like. I start with saying that I like at least an hour. I don't like to be rushed (now automatically I'm starting to "hook" her because she knows she's going to get an hour versus 30 minutes). I go on to say that I like a little massage. If I'm in the mood, I'll ask for CIM.

And the thing that I want the most (her anus) is the absolute last thing I bring up LOLOL!! I just say that I like anal sex, and see how she reacts. Maybe she readily agrees. Or maybe she says she doesn't do that (without me having asked her directly). If she's down with it and everything else is otherwise cool, then we're off to a room! And if she says no, then I have to decide if I'm still attracted enough to her to still want to go with her.

But what if she says maybe? Well, I've learned from experience to turn girls who say that down if I'm really in the mood for anal. Too often, they are the very ones who say well if you're too big no, and then you get into the room, and you're [B]always[/B] too big. The "maybe" girls really aren't committed to providing anal sex, and are best to be avoided if you really want anal. What you want is a firm "yes" or a firm "no". Then you decide.

And that's how I do it. That's how I roll! Now, I know this process may seem a bit long, but how this all plays out is in minutes. The girl wants to make money, and she won't make any standing there talking to guys all day and all night long. And I know me as a monger, I don't want to spend my time talking to some tute who I know I'm not going to choose. So, I gave you a long-winded post because I had the time number one LOL! And number two, I wanted to get into some of the psychology as well as pure strategy and tactics of how I procure anal in Germany (pretty much the same in Brazil). Hope you other "analists" found it useful!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3028427]I'm happy to share some thoughts on the above-referenced subject. When it comes to getting anal, I've had a tremendous amount of success in Germany. During my last trip throughout Germany, I fucked about 70% of the girls I went with in their assholes. The only place where access to the ass has been as good is in Brazil, where my number could hit 100% if I lowered my standards (whole other discussion).

Now when it comes to anal, if you want it, then you need to go to places where it's most likely to be obtained. For me, in Germany, that has been Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin. Stay away from the NRW area. Not that there is NO chance there, but it's just much harder to get. At least for me it has been.

Second, when I go to the clubs, I don't chase after the girls. I rarely ever approach anybody. It's not that I'm shy or feel awkward or whatever. It's just that I'm at the clubs to relax and enjoy. I don't want to work. If I did, then I could go to a "regular" club for that. At an FKK club, the girls want you. Or at least your money LOL! You want these fists full of money? Then come get it! The only time I ever chase is if I see somebody I just got to have. And that happens only maybe once in an entire two to four week trip.[/QUOTE]I wish I had know this last week. I think my mistake was trying to save money and go for 30 minutes. I guess if they want to give up the ass they want to make more money. But damn I guess that's 150-200 for an hour for the girl then another 100-150 for anal. I was spending 200-250 for 30 minutes with ass hole.

They really need to try to bring in more girls from different countries. Also the just need to have a menu with pricing. This would really improve the experience.

Also I hate the girls in the room say oh I don't do that and I do this. Etc.

All I know is that I don't trust Romanians.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3028464]I wish I had know this last week. I think my mistake was trying to save money and go for 30 minutes. I guess if they want to give up the ass they want to make more money. But damn I guess that's 150-200 for an hour for the girl then another 100-150 for anal. I was spending 200-250 for 30 minutes with ass hole.[/QUOTE]Never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal, whether you're doing a 30 minute or 60 minute session. Doesn't matter. Stick to 100 euros max for the anal upcharge.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3028467]They really need to try to bring in more girls from different countries. Also the just need to have a menu with pricing. This would really improve the experience.

Also I hate the girls in the room say oh I don't do that and I do this. Etc.

All I know is that I don't trust Romanians.[/QUOTE]Learn about German 2017 law, about registration for girls.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3028470]Never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal, whether you're doing a 30 minute or 60 minute session. Doesn't matter. Stick to 100 euros max for the anal upcharge.[/QUOTE]Minimum 200 CHF at Globe.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3028558]Minimum 200 CHF at Globe.[/QUOTE]But we weren't talking about Switzerland. We were on Germany. I don't go to Switzerland. Too expensive!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3028622]But we weren't talking about Switzerland. We were on Germany. I don't go to Switzerland. Too expensive![/QUOTE]Yes, when quality really fell in Switzerland, too expensive for lower quality now. At Globe, I paid 130€/30 on 2021 and 165€/30 now, for lower looks. I find Germany better value for money. In NRW, can find anal for 50/60€. Some Germans and others, Black, Latinas, at 6 sens and YY NL on NRW border.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3028467]They really need to try to bring in more girls from different countries. Also the just need to have a menu with pricing. This would really improve the experience.

Also I hate the girls in the room say oh I don't do that and I do this. Etc.

All I know is that I don't trust Romanians.[/QUOTE]You need to confirm with the girl the services that you expect and the price before the room. If in the room she says otherwise then she's a scammer. In FKKs management usually takes the girl's side unless the customer is German. Its best to get what service you can and report the scam to management and especially this forum naming the girl with a full description.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3028527]Learn about German 2017 law, about registration for girls.[/QUOTE]The dominance of mainly Romanian girls in FKK clubs has been going on long before registration requirement (is it still a thing?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3028765]You need to confirm with the girl the services that you expect and the price before the room. If in the room she says otherwise then she's a scammer. In FKKs management usually takes the girl's side unless the customer is German. Its best to get what service you can and report the scam to management and especially this forum naming the girl with a full description.[/QUOTE]The problem with the girl is that once you get in the room, they say oh you can do this position or that's too rough etc. Its not relaxed.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3028765]You need to confirm with the girl the services that you expect and the price before the room. If in the room she says otherwise then she's a scammer. In FKKs management usually takes the girl's side unless the customer is German. Its best to get what service you can and report the scam to management and especially this forum naming the girl with a full description.[/QUOTE]But girls can behave very different with different guys. A regular writer here wrote a girl was a dead fish at Globe. He was told bad about her, but he went with her, probably because he doesn't see often beauty like her at Globe. For my 2 rooms experiences with her at Sharks with no rules compare to Globe under rules, unfortunately, not good for FK, but one of the highest potential for intense sporty fucking I know at the moment in FKKs and I'm pretty sure one of the best performer for fucking with a real size at Globe, if you are able to make her playing with you. My meaning is and even at Globe under rules, you have to create quality with girls to make them willing to play and please you. For my many experiences, making them cum usually really pay back, exactly same than with a woman in real life. For true, average level of Romanians really fell with many small pussies not able to fuck with a real size now, but still some high quality like Daniela at Sharks for 100. Less good girls than before and also less good clubs, no more GT, LR and GG, World and even Oase quite down, I'm afraid same for Atmos Hamburg, but can still find good values for money. NRW and NL on border are better value for money than Hessen. Can even still find good girls for 50/30.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;3028808]The dominance of mainly Romanian girls in FKK clubs has been going on long before registration requirement (is it still a thing?[/QUOTE]Romania belong to EU. Not Republic of Moldavia, nor Ukraine, nor Russia, nor Asians, nor south Americans. Yes, already mostly Romanians in 2013 and still. I got some Romanians on best Amour Russe levels, for 50/30, reason why I drove more than 500000 kms to go almost weekly, except for holidays, to FKKs since 2013. On this year, I still already had more than 22 really high level rooms in FKKs, 20 at Sharks. Not so bad for me.

Good day! I'm a Yank (not one of the bad ones-- LOL) and thinking of planning a trip for some fun. This is a much belated trip. I had one planned for April of 2021. I was just about to make all the reservations, and then you know what shut down the world. I had done a lot of research and kind of settled into the idea of going to Frankfurt as it would allow me to kill 2 birds with one stone-- take my sex vacation and fly on a 747. Fortunately, both bucket list items are still on the table. I was wondering how much have things changed. I'm wanting to have a variety of experiences. I'd like to partake in some red light district fun, hit up an FKK, and also find those sex parties where gangbangs / orgies are filmed (I'm an exhibitionist). I'm also wanting to do other "non-sex" related sight-seeing. I figured Frankfurt is a good base given the airport and central location.

I'm pretty particular in what I seek. I'm definitely into dates with multiple-pops involved. I prefer oral without condom (don't care about spit or swallow). I do have some DBSM kinks but sex must be involved. I'm open to 2 girls at same time. As for race, I really don't care. I just want to avoid scams or language issues as my German is limited. I suppose the obvious question is what type of damage to my wallet will this be. What can I expect to pay for a street girl? How about a brothel? What is the rate for a FKK girl? What are the standard entrance fees for FKKs nowadays? What about extras like GFE or anal (not really into).

Is late February / early March a good time to come? Yes, I know it will be cold so no pools (unless heated / indoors). Coming to Europe is competing with going to SE Asia. I find them equally attractive. I would feel more comfortable in Europe given I've been there before and am more culturally attuned. I just loved my time in Munich and Vienna years ago. I appreciate any info.

[QUOTE=RAS915;3028875]Good day! I'm a Yank (not one of the bad ones-- LOL) and thinking of planning a trip for some fun. This is a much belated trip. I had one planned for April of 2021. I was just about to make all the reservations, and then you know what shut down the world. I had done a lot of research and kind of settled into the idea of going to Frankfurt as it would allow me to kill 2 birds with one stone-- take my sex vacation and fly on a 747. Fortunately, both bucket list items are still on the table. I was wondering how much have things changed. I'm wanting to have a variety of experiences. I'd like to partake in some red light district fun, hit up an FKK, and also find those sex parties where gangbangs / orgies are filmed (I'm an exhibitionist). I'm also wanting to do other "non-sex" related sight-seeing. I figured Frankfurt is a good base given the airport and central location.

I'm pretty particular in what I seek. I'm definitely into dates with multiple-pops involved. I prefer oral without condom (don't care about spit or swallow). I do have some DBSM kinks but sex must be involved. I'm open to 2 girls at same time. As for race, I really don't care. I just want to avoid scams or language issues as my German is limited. I suppose the obvious question is what type of damage to my wallet will this be. What can I expect to pay for a street girl? How about a brothel? What is the rate for a FKK girl? What are the standard entrance fees for FKKs nowadays? What about extras like GFE or anal (not really into)..[/QUOTE]In Pattaya, you can get a Thai for the night for less than 150. In Hessen, FKK entry between 50 and 75, and girls for minimum 100/30, except at Rom, Atlanta and Bahama.

On the eve of my next trip to FKKLand, I give an ode to my long lost friend Mr. Ho (we used to do this privately): Banzai! Banzai! Banzai! [B]Anal Banzai![/B] Banzai! Aahahaha!

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I will probably be in Frankfurt this Saturday and want to spend time and money at one of the FKK clubs. I'm not driving this time so will be using the public transport network.

The travel times from my hotel to the accessible FKKs are 20 minutes to The Palace, 30 minutes to the Mainhattan and 50 minutes to Sharks.

I've been to the Artemis dozens of times so I'm familiar with the FKK concept. The weather isn't looking great this weekend so outdoor facilites probably won't factor into my decision.

I'm wondering if Sharks is worth the extra travel time? Or would the Mainhattan or the Palace offer a similar line-up to what I'm used to at the Artemis?

Any suggestions? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029402]I will probably be in Frankfurt this Saturday and want to spend time and money at one of the FKK clubs. I'm not driving this time so will be using the public transport network.

The travel times from my hotel to the accessible FKKs are 20 minutes to The Palace, 30 minutes to the Mainhattan and 50 minutes to Sharks.

I've been to the Artemis dozens of times so I'm familiar with the FKK concept. The weather isn't looking great this weekend so outdoor facilites probably won't factor into my decision.

I'm wondering if Sharks is worth the extra travel time? Or would the Mainhattan or the Palace offer a similar line-up to what I'm used to at the Artemis?

Any suggestions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sharks have larger casting.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029402]I will probably be in Frankfurt this Saturday and want to spend time and money at one of the FKK clubs. I'm not driving this time so will be using the public transport network.

The travel times from my hotel to the accessible FKKs are 20 minutes to The Palace, 30 minutes to the Mainhattan and 50 minutes to Sharks.

I've been to the Artemis dozens of times so I'm familiar with the FKK concept. The weather isn't looking great this weekend so outdoor facilites probably won't factor into my decision.

I'm wondering if Sharks is worth the extra travel time? Or would the Mainhattan or the Palace offer a similar line-up to what I'm used to at the Artemis?

Any suggestions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have just visited these 3 clubs. Go to Sharks both for quantity and quality. Palace is dead and Oase a pale shadow of its glory days and does not come close to Sharks on any metric.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3029564]I have just visited these 3 clubs. Go to Sharks both for quantity and quality. Palace is dead and Oase a pale shadow of its glory days and does not come close to Sharks on any metric.[/QUOTE]How is Sharks on a Sunday? Anyone know from recent direct experience? In Frankfurt, I plan to hit Sharks, Palace, Mainhatten, and Oase all at least once. Trying to decide what is best day to go to each. Seems like Sharks deserves a weekend slot for sure.

Thanks for the replies. It's looking like I'll brave the bad weather and make the trip out to Sharks. I was hoping for my first trip to sharks to be during the summer.

Is Mainhattan any good these days? I like the way it looks in the pictures. I might try there and if it's a bust head to sharks.

This upcoming Friday is Germany Unity Day. Are the FKKs open during this holiday does anyone know? Thanks in advance for any knowledgeable guidance regarding this. The answer will influence the "order of battle". Thanks!

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029597]Thanks for the replies. It's looking like I'll brave the bad weather and make the trip out to Sharks. I was hoping for my first trip to sharks to be during the summer.

Is Mainhattan any good these days? I like the way it looks in the pictures. I might try there and if it's a bust head to sharks.[/QUOTE]Mainhatten wasn't even that great in the heyday of Hessen FKKs. Save yourself the time and trouble and just head to Sharks. It's the only club operating at the same level as it was a decade ago.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3029602]Mainhatten wasn't even that great in the heyday of Hessen FKKs. Save yourself the time and trouble and just head to Sharks. It's the only club operating at the same level as it was a decade ago.[/QUOTE]If you can't go to Sharks, then Palace is probably double the size of Mainhattan. The food is what Mainhattan was known for. Ever think that a *****house known for it's food is a good thing?

People who go to the smaller clubs either are under time constraints (location). Have regular girls. Or just like intimate spaces. I have a regular at Palace. I SMS to confirm time, and availability and boom Bob's your uncle. Or maybe in German it's Hans.

I had great times at Mainhattan and still really good girls, but not early.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029597]Thanks for the replies. It's looking like I'll brave the bad weather and make the trip out to Sharks. I was hoping for my first trip to sharks to be during the summer.

Is Mainhattan any good these days? I like the way it looks in the pictures. I might try there and if it's a bust head to sharks.[/QUOTE]Party at Sharks on this week end and Saturday is usually best casting day.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3029619]I had great times at Mainhattan and still really good girls, but not early.[/QUOTE]Many girls arrive only after 9 in the evening. Mainhattan ist the nightclub of the clubs in the Frankfurt area.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3029661]Party at Sharks on this week end and Saturday is usually best casting day.[/QUOTE]How does a party day differ from a normal day?

Last questions, hopefully. At the Artemis the house sets the basic service price (70430) but if I've read correctly that's not the case with the Frankfurt FKKs? Each girl decides her own rate? What is the basic service price before I start adding extras?

Thanks for all the replies so far.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;3029674]Many girls arrive only after 9 in the evening. Mainhattan ist the nightclub of the clubs in the Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]Some arrive also late at Oase and some even after 10 pm at Sharks. I wonder how they make enough money, when they pay entry.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029757]How does a party day differ from a normal day?

Last questions, hopefully. At the Artemis the house sets the basic service price (70430) but if I've read correctly that's not the case with the Frankfurt FKKs? Each girl decides her own rate? What is the basic service price before I start adding extras?

Thanks for all the replies so far.[/QUOTE]Party day is little bit of putting a "theme" on the day. It really doesn't differ so much from a normal day, some activities, music, performance etc. Its more an advertisment to attract guests.

Theoretically, every girl decides their own rate at Sharks. Some girls quotes 150€ even if the Shark price is 100€. 100€ is normal sex, BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029597]Thanks for the replies. It's looking like I'll brave the bad weather and make the trip out to Sharks. I was hoping for my first trip to sharks to be during the summer.

Is Mainhattan any good these days? I like the way it looks in the pictures. I might try there and if it's a bust head to sharks.[/QUOTE]I liked Mainhattan earlier but it have become a real shit place. The girls have cartel prices on 100 for covered BJ, BBBJ is 150. Sharks is not only cheaper but also more girls and better looking compared to Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029757]How does a party day differ from a normal day?

Last questions, hopefully. At the Artemis the house sets the basic service price (70430) but if I've read correctly that's not the case with the Frankfurt FKKs? Each girl decides her own rate? What is the basic service price before I start adding extras?

Thanks for all the replies so far.[/QUOTE]Except for Sylvester, usually nothing exceptional for other Sharks party. At Sharks, most of best girls provide BBBJ, foreplay and sex for 100/30. Don t pay extra for FK, most often waste of money for low quality for kissing. Some pretties at Sharks, not silicon, tattooed land. Don t say You are a newbie and be careful about girls jumping on You. Should be around 100 girls at Sharks on this week end. A German who worked at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3029769]I liked Mainhattan earlier but it have become a real shit place. The girls have cartel prices on 100 for covered BJ, BBBJ is 150. Sharks is not only cheaper but also more girls and better looking compared to Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]Less girls at Mainhattan than at Sharks, but some good girls at Mainhattan and many not good at Sharks. Yes, few higher looks at Sharks, but Anja at Mainhattan is a beauty, she would be one of the prettiest at Sharks and Globe.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3029769]I liked Mainhattan earlier but it have become a real shit place. The girls have cartel prices on 100 for covered BJ, BBBJ is 150. Sharks is not only cheaper but also more girls and better looking compared to Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]How much time is that for though? If it's an hour of time then I would be amenable to it. Im saying I would do 60 minutes for $150 if that includes a BBBJ. So 100 for 30 minutes with BBBJ, and 150 for 60 minutes with BBBJ. Throw in CIM and I would do 200 for 60 minutes that includes BBBJ/CIM.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3029777]How much time is that for though? If it's an hour of time then I would be amenable to it.[/QUOTE]You won't find any girl in Mainhattan or Sharks, who does 60 min for 100€ LOL. Its 30 min.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3029777]How much time is that for though? If it's an hour of time then I would be amenable to it. Im saying I would do 60 minutes for $150 if that includes a BBBJ. So 100 for 30 minutes with BBBJ, and 150 for 60 minutes with BBBJ. Throw in CIM and I would do 200 for 60 minutes that includes BBBJ/CIM.[/QUOTE]On slow days, with not busy, you may find 150/60. More and more, some girls ask different price to different guys. 200/60 with CIM seem possible with not full busy who prefer to save vagina. Some girls are really not busy, even on Friday or Saturday.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3029757]How does a party day differ from a normal day?

Last questions, hopefully. At the Artemis the house sets the basic service price (70430) but if I've read correctly that's not the case with the Frankfurt FKKs? Each girl decides her own rate? What is the basic service price before I start adding extras?

Thanks for all the replies so far.[/QUOTE]I was at Oase at a Christmas party day and they had special food. It would make me go there instead of someplace else on that day. There was seafood dishes with big prawns and odd dishes. It was good if you like that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3029826]On slow days, with not busy, you may find 150/60. More and more, some girls ask different price to different guys. 200/60 with CIM seem possible with not full busy who prefer to save vagina. Some girls are really not busy, even on Friday or Saturday.[/QUOTE]Today at Mainhatten, a girl tried to hook me with 300 for an hour with massage, BBBJ, and CIM included. I balked at that pricing. I mean, I would have a very hard time getting up into the 300's with no anal on the menu, which it was not with her. So had to pass. I had her at around a 6+ on my optics scale anyway. She explained that one reason prices have gone up is because they have gone up for them the girls too. Newbies out there may not know it, but the girls have to pay an admission fee themselves to work in the clubs. She told me that at Mainhatten that's 150 euros each day. So before a girl can even make any profit, she has to recoup that money plus whatever her transportation costs to and from the club are. Cost hikes for the girls means cost hikes for us mongers too!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3030007]Today at Mainhatten, a girl tried to hook me with 300 for an hour with massage, BBBJ, and CIM included. I balked at that pricing. I mean, I would have a very hard time getting up into the 300's with no anal on the menu, which it was not with her. So had to pass. I had her at around a 6+ on my optics scale anyway. She explained that one reason prices have gone up is because they have gone up for them the girls too. Newbies out there may not know it, but the girls have to pay an admission fee themselves to work in the clubs. She told me that at Mainhatten that's 150 euros each day. So before a girl can even make any profit, she has to recoup that money plus whatever her transportation costs to and from the club are. Cost hikes for the girls means cost hikes for us mongers too![/QUOTE]Yes, more expensive entry for girls, 150 may be with sleeping and condoms. One of best and most elegant at Mainhattan was for 150/60 full real GFE with one of most BBBJ skillful, not long ago. 150/60 GFE became a bit rare, but can still happen and also at Sharks.

My flight got canceled this morning! My Sharks debut will have to wait until another time. But thanks to all for the advise, it will be useful some day.

[QUOTE=Winston11;3030108]My flight got canceled this morning! My Sharks debut will have to wait until another time. But thanks to all for the advise, it will be useful some day.[/QUOTE]What a bummer. Assuming no train can substitute the flight.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3030007]Today at Mainhatten, a girl tried to hook me with 300 for an hour with massage, BBBJ, and CIM included. I balked at that pricing. I mean, I would have a very hard time getting up into the 300's with no anal on the menu, which it was not with her. So had to pass. I had her at around a 6+ on my optics scale anyway. She explained that one reason prices have gone up is because they have gone up for them the girls too. Newbies out there may not know it, but the girls have to pay an admission fee themselves to work in the clubs. She told me that at Mainhatten that's 150 euros each day. So before a girl can even make any profit, she has to recoup that money plus whatever her transportation costs to and from the club are. Cost hikes for the girls means cost hikes for us mongers too![/QUOTE]I would believe most people knows that girls pays entrance fees, as men does. Thats the irony when girls throws comments sounding like they own the place. Because they are just paying guests as everyone else there.

The prices at Mainhattan is not known for me but many girls also sleeps at Mainhattans girl house which is walking distance from the club. 150 entrance without accomodation sounds very expensive? Thats the price at Sharks for entrance AND accomodation. Times like today, prices everywhere has increased. But I don't really buy that as the only reason why all girls have a cartel price of 100 covered BJ.

But from the other hand, there are neither so many girls or men visiting Mainhattan. Perhaps thats why they want to squeeze every penny from the few who visits.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3030119]What a bummer. Assuming no train can substitute the flight.[/QUOTE]No trains from the island I'm on unfortunately.

I should be able to make a trip to The Globe in a few weeks though.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3030120]I would believe most people knows that girls pays entrance fees, as men does. Thats the irony when girls throws comments sounding like they own the place. Because they are just paying guests as everyone else there.

The prices at Mainhattan is not known for me but many girls also sleeps at Mainhattans girl house which is walking distance from the club. 150 entrance without accomodation sounds very expensive? Thats the price at Sharks for entrance AND accomodation. Times like today, prices everywhere has increased. But I don't really buy that as the only reason why all girls have a cartel price of 100 covered BJ.

But from the other hand, there are neither so many girls or men visiting Mainhattan. Perhaps thats why they want to squeeze every penny from the few who visits.[/QUOTE]Mr. Dluxe,

I said that newbies may not know that the girls have to pay an entrance fee. I didn't know that when I first started going to FKKs as a newbie way back when. Second, yes I thought a 150 euros fee is high too, but the girl didn't mention anything about accommodation. I reported exactly what she told me. Maybe in fact that is what it's for (accommodation and entrance). But that doesn't change the fact that they need to make enough money to cover that fee before they can profit from their work. And third, I wasn't suggesting that it was a justification for "cartel pricing" for covered BJs.

In fact, did you read my full Mainhattan report? I spoke to two girls who offered me BBBJs for 100 euros. I remembered you talking about CBJs at Mainhattan for 100, so was quite pleased that's not what I was quoted. Come to think of it, there was a third girl willing to do a BBBJ for 100. So don't know why you were being quoted an unfair cartel price. Maybe it was just who you talked to. I don't know, but I was there within a day, and that definitely was not my experience. I made numerous, friendly, low pressure counteroffers and negotiated well all the way around it seems! I believe I was quoted good prices under the general current FKK pricing regime in and around Frankfurt. No 100 euro CBJs!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3030139]Mr. Dluxe,

I said that newbies may not know that the girls have to pay an entrance fee. I didn't know that when I first started going to FKKs as a newbie way back when. Second, yes I thought a 150 euros fee is high too, but the girl didn't mention anything about accommodation. I reported exactly what she told me. Maybe in fact that is what it's for (accommodation and entrance). But that doesn't change the fact that they need to make enough money to cover that fee before they can profit from their work. And third, I wasn't suggesting that it was a justification for "cartel pricing" for covered BJs.

In fact, did you read my full Mainhattan report? I spoke to two girls who offered me BBBJs for 100 euros. I remembered you talking about CBJs at Mainhattan for 100, so was quite pleased that's not what I was quoted. Come to think of it, there was a third girl willing to do a BBBJ for 100. So don't know why you were being quoted an unfair cartel price. Maybe it was just who you talked to. I don't know, but I was there within a day, and that definitely was not my experience. I made numerous, friendly, low pressure counteroffers and negotiated well all the way around it seems! I believe I was quoted good prices under the general current FKK pricing regime in and around Frankfurt. No 100 euro CBJs![/QUOTE]If you have read the Mainhattan channel you haven't missed that 100 CJ is the price girls at Mainhattan have been quoted lately, reported by more users than me.

[QUOTE=Dluxe;3030331]If you have read the Mainhattan channel you haven't missed that 100 CJ is the price girls at Mainhattan have been quoted lately, reported by more users than me.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but I was just there a few days ago, and I know what my own lived experience was. I'm not denying your personal experiences. But I won't deny my own either. I bargained back and forth with three girls, and I know all three of them would have done a 30 minute session with BBBJ for 100 euros. If that's what I wanted to settle on, then that's what I would have paid for and received. All the old hands know it used to be 50! It was earlier in the day and the girls weren't getting a lot of action, so I'm sure that worked in my favor too. I think it's still too much really considering 50 was the original standard. The girls took advantage of the condom law to extort 100% more money, and apparently some are trying to get 200% more if they can get away with it in just a short 30 minute session. Just outrageous! Don't let them do it guys. Hang tough for 100430 with BBBJ. It's still very possible, even at Mainhattan I can personally attest. And will remain so as long as you don't give in to greedy, unethical hoors trying to gouge a monger!

Oh boy, I never had issues flying into Frankfurt from Canada. But this time the lady officer why I booked for 2 weeks LOL. Luckily I had a couple of concert / symphony tickets I booked and had to show her that. If I had told I'm here to monger she'd have deported me LOL.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;3031867]Oh boy, I never had issues flying into Frankfurt from Canada. But this time the lady officer why I booked for 2 weeks LOL. Luckily I had a couple of concert / symphony tickets I booked and had to show her that. If I had told I'm here to monger she'd have deported me LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow! Glad I didn't get her then! I had a guy who simply asked me what the purpose of my visit was. I said "vacation travel" and that was it. That said, although it may have been embarrassing for you to reveal the full purpose of your trip, that would not have been a basis on its own to deny you entry. Prostitution is legal in Germany.

[QUOTE=Artvand1;3031867]Oh boy, I never had issues flying into Frankfurt from Canada. But this time the lady officer why I booked for 2 weeks ......[/QUOTE]I take it you're not Caucasian.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3031875]Wow! Glad I didn't get her then! I had a guy who simply asked me what the purpose of my visit was. I said "vacation travel" and that was it. That said, although it may have been embarrassing for you to reveal the full purpose of your trip, that would not have been a basis on its own to deny you entry. Prostitution is legal in Germany.[/QUOTE]And FKKs also.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3031875]Wow! Glad I didn't get her then! I had a guy who simply asked me what the purpose of my visit was. I said "vacation travel" and that was it. That said, although it may have been embarrassing for you to reveal the full purpose of your trip, that would not have been a basis on its own to deny you entry. Prostitution is legal in Germany.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it was weird. I have been to Germany many times and never was I asked one question LOL. They see my passport and stamp and it was all men. Don't know why this lady felt the need to question me LOL. Maybe she didn't like me. I was also about to take my phone to show the concert tickets as proof but she didn't go to that extent.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3031891]I take it you're not Caucasian.[/QUOTE]Haha, no. But German male officers have never asked any question before so it was new for me.

To the Cane.

How's your FKK tour coming along? Surprised you haven't tried Penelope yet. Sure to find a few gems there. I'll be heading there this weekend as well as Sharks. Just got back into Europe after a two week trip in the Far East. Bangkok was meh as well as HK. In Vienna at the moment and had a quick laufhaus fuck with a Jessica Tarlov lookalike from Romania. Oppose a lot of JT's politics but that nerdy look of hers gets my juices going. Anyways hope Germany and Prague delivers for me next.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;3032478]To the Cane.

How's your FKK tour coming along? Surprised you haven't tried Penelope yet. Sure to find a few gems there. I'll be heading there this weekend as well as Sharks. Just got back into Europe after a two week trip in the Far East. Bangkok was meh as well as HK. In Vienna at the moment and had a quick laufhaus fuck with a Jessica Tarlov lookalike from Romania. Oppose a lot of JT's politics but that nerdy look of hers gets my juices going. Anyways hope Germany and Prague delivers..[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Penelope casting is not at best at the moment, far below Sharks which have best casting all over FKK land on this year.

[QUOTE=Howie;3032478]To the Cane.

How's your FKK tour coming along? Surprised you haven't tried Penelope yet. Sure to find a few gems there. I'll be heading there this weekend as well as Sharks. Just got back into Europe after a two week trip in the Far East. Bangkok was meh as well as HK. In Vienna at the moment and had a quick laufhaus fuck with a Jessica Tarlov lookalike from Romania. Oppose a lot of JT's politics but that nerdy look of hers gets my juices going. Anyways hope Germany and Prague delivers for me next..[/QUOTE]I landed in Munich today to a solid start! Will be reporting soon. Hope to hit Penelope sometime later. In the meantime, if you have not seen them yet, you can read all my reports on the FKKs I visited already in and around Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3032486]I landed in Munich today to a solid start! Will be reporting soon. Hope to hit Penelope sometime later. In the meantime, if you have not seen them yet, you can read all my reports on the FKKs I visited already in and around Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Blond German Leoni at Penelope used to provide anal for 60. I don't know now, but she lost her freshness for sex.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3032486]I landed in Munich today to a solid start! Will be reporting soon. Hope to hit Penelope sometime later. In the meantime, if you have not seen them yet, you can read all my reports on the FKKs I visited already in and around Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Hey, I found the perfect girl for you at Penelope if you happen to head that way. Goes by the name Gina from Bucharest. She is slim, tallish with an amazing bubble butt. Juicy pink pussy and tight pink asshole. Great for chewing on. Probably one of the prettiest in the club. Has rock solid bolt ons with one pierced nipple and a few tattoos. Also wear glasses with long fawny brown hair.

By the way, have you thought of going to Wellcum during your travels? Plenty of fuckable girls there. Should be on everyone's bucket list at least once. Enjoy the rest of your hunt.

Howie

[QUOTE=Howie;3032894]Hey, I found the perfect girl for you at Penelope if you happen to head that way. Goes by the name Gina from Bucharest. She is slim, tallish with an amazing bubble butt. Juicy pink pussy and tight pink asshole. Great for chewing on. Probably one of the prettiest in the club. Has rock solid bolt ons with one pierced nipple and a few tattoos. Also wear glasses with long fawny brown hair. By the way, have you thought of going to Wellcum during your travels? Plenty of fuckable girls there. Should be on everyone's bucket list at least once. Enjoy the rest of your hunt.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I will be in the Dusseldorf area soon and plan to visit Penelope from there. Unfortunately, I will not make Wellcum. Nor Sixsens or Yin Yang. All too much of a pain for me to get to with nothing much else around for me to do where those clubs are located. Looking forward to Penelope as it gets lots of good mentions on ISG.

[QUOTE=Howie;3032894]Hey, I found the perfect girl for you at Penelope if you happen to head that way. Goes by the name Gina from Bucharest. She is slim, tallish with an amazing bubble butt. Juicy pink pussy and tight pink asshole. Great for chewing on. Probably one of the prettiest in the club. Has rock solid bolt ons with one pierced nipple and a few tattoos. Also wear glasses with long fawny brown hair.

By the way, have you thought of going to Wellcum during your travels? Plenty of fuckable girls there. Should be on everyone's bucket list at least once. Enjoy the rest of your hunt.[/QUOTE]Is she silicon? Not Giulia?

[QUOTE=Howie;3032894]
By the way, have you thought of going to Wellcum during your travels? Plenty of fuckable girls there. Should be on everyone's bucket list at least once. Enjoy the rest of your hunt.

Howie[/QUOTE]Wellcum has always been on my bucket list as the idea of combining it with an Alpine holiday appeals and having an adjoining hotel is a plus. On a weekend, how many girls are typically working?

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3032916]Wellcum has always been on my bucket list as the idea of combining it with an Alpine holiday appeals and having an adjoining hotel is a plus. On a weekend, how many girls are typically working?[/QUOTE][URL]https://wellcum.at/girls/[/URL] & filter by date.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3032916]Wellcum has always been on my bucket list as the idea of combining it with an Alpine holiday appeals and having an adjoining hotel is a plus. On a weekend, how many girls are typically working?[/QUOTE]Can be more than 50, but compare to Germany, most girls are not good value for quality for money. Many silicon tattooed, not many really pretty. Disappointing Summer 2025 with too much upselling. Yes, can ski around in Austria, Italy in Tarvisio and Slovenia. Hotel in the club, you can fuck girls in your room. When I drive to Germany, I would not for Wellcum girls quality, if I didn't drive for Zoncolan and again on next Summer.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3032899]Thanks for the tip. I will be in the Dusseldorf area soon and plan to visit Penelope from there. Unfortunately, I will not make Wellcum. Nor Sixsens or Yin Yang. All too much of a pain for me to get to with nothing much else around for me to do where those clubs are located. Looking forward to Penelope as it gets lots of good mentions on ISG.[/QUOTE]Big outlet in Roermond where is YY. 6 sens is stuck to Aachen. Both on higher level than Penelope at the moment.

I think some of the German FKK clubs need to just go ahead and shut their doors for good. Let them fail! This would leave a much smaller but better overall FKK industry in Germany. And then if someone wants to be a successful new entrant into the business, they're going to see exactly how they need to be if they want to be competitive and survive. I think there are just too many crappy clubs in operation right now, and there needs to a culling. A "cleansing" of the market by a shutting down the worst performers. I don't see how a place like Atmos is even hanging on. What a joke of a "club". What do you guys think? I say close the crappy joints without delay, because I don't see them succeeding over the long term.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033079]I think some of the German FKK clubs need to just go ahead and shut their doors for good. Let them fail! This would leave a much smaller but better overall FKK industry in Germany. And then if someone wants to be a successful new entrant into the business, they're going to see exactly how they need to be if they want to be competitive and survive. I think there are just too many crappy clubs in operation right now, and there needs to a culling. A "cleansing" of the market by a shutting down the worst performers. I don't see how a place like Atmos is even hanging on. What a joke of a "club". What do you guys think? I say close the crappy joints without delay, because I don't see them succeeding over the long term.[/QUOTE]Getting knowledge help not to waste too much money, same than efficiency in job.

TC,

Why?

Sirioja is right, you know. What works for a local guy with a monthly FKK visit, does not necessarily work for the international monger on a grand tour. Not to say the seasoned and easily bored monger who has seen it all.

You are doing a great job for ISG right now doing the hard ground work visiting all kinds av FKK clubs in search of undiscovered pearls. But unless you have any specific updated intel before your trip, you are bound to make a few misses. Searching for the daughter of that one blond bombshell you found in a FKK club in the wilderness 20 years ago is a huge risk, not to say futile.

I have fond memory of visiting small FKK clubs (Hamburg, NRW and Hessen). They have a different vibe than the larger clubs. Sometimes claustrophobic and intense. Very erotic. But usually not so much. A short visit is enough. I always keep my expectations low.

I know which clubs that work for me and that I will gladly revisit. I have also learnt that I should focus on just a couple of clubs in order to learn the girls better (the good, the bad, and the new cute girl). It works better for me. And then visit a new club every now and then - just for the adventure - but with a greater risk. But that's me. We are all different.

Will closing the worst clubs help other clubs? I highly doubt that. Which club want girls from a terrible lineup? How would that help? Clubs are closing down all the time. In particular if they are not able to renew the lineups. New clubs are popping up. It is a fierce competition out there.

Let the locals enjoy their local FKK club, I'd say.

ps.
Yeah, I agree Wellcum should be on anyone's bucket list at least once in his lifetime. There are usually a couple of hot blondes there. I bet you can make them dirty talk.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3033165]TC, why? Let the locals enjoy their local FKK club, I'd say.[/QUOTE]I get it. But that's my point. At a club like Atmos there was literally nobody there when I visited except 2 [B]tourist[/B] mongers! No locals. And when we left there were no customers there at all period LOL! So what purpose does a club like that serve? I say none. I mean not even the locals are going to it! And it really wasn't that much better in Munich at Atlantis and Fantasy. I feel like there are some excess bad clubs still operating that even the locals don't give a damn about, and that need to fully fail ASAP. Like someone else said, you can't even find reports about those clubs on German sites! So who really needs them around anyway? I know clubs go out of business all the time, but some not fast enough if you ask me. Dragging the whole FKK industry down to new lows. I will continue with my research up to the end of this month. More reports to come!

[QUOTE=Shark16;3033165]TC,

Why?

Sirioja is right, you know. What works for a local guy with a monthly FKK visit, does not necessarily work for the international monger on a grand tour. Not to say the seasoned and easily bored monger who has seen it all.

You are doing a great job for ISG right now doing the hard ground work visiting all kinds av FKK clubs in search of undiscovered pearls. But unless you have any specific updated intel before your trip, you are bound to make a few misses. Searching for the daughter of that one blond bombshell you found in a FKK club in the wilderness 20 years ago is a huge risk, not to say futile.

I have fond memory of visiting small FKK clubs (Hamburg, NRW and Hessen). They have a different vibe than the larger clubs. Sometimes claustrophobic and intense. Very erotic. But usually not so much. A short visit is enough. I always keep my expectations low.

I know which clubs that work for me and that I will gladly revisit. I have also learnt that I should focus on just a couple of clubs in order to learn the girls better (the good, the bad, and the new cute girl). It works better for me. And then visit a new club every now and then - just for the adventure - but with a greater risk. But that's me. We are all different. .[/QUOTE]Except for RTC, most locals don't visit bad value clubs, when they don't want to waste their money. Many locals don't visit anymore Sharks or Oase, because of girls rate, but going to Atlanta, Bahama, Rom. Fortunately for Wellcum, mostly Italians business who are not too demanding, same like most Globe clients thinking expensive mean good.

At Penelope, entry 35 for quite good foods and around 50 girls from Thursday to Saturday, after 6 pm. Can be quite slow earlier. At Sharks, sometimes entry 50 for around 100 girls and best casting in whole FKK land on this year. I got many really good GFE rooms for 100 at Sharks on this year. Really high level YY with girls diversity, some Black and Latinas, and Sixsens with good wellness and foods can also be not bad from Thursday to Saturday. Unfortunately, too many long time girls fucked Oase business, most good new ones not staying for long because of lack of business out of party. Shisha lounge don t give good business to girls. Mainhattan can be not bad with entry HH and few good girls for 100, but slow before 6/7 pm. Aca Gold is now a bit cheap for my feeling, but can have sex for 50. Gold is Penelope brother with lower quality. Globe and Wellcum are too expensive for their girls quality, even Wellcum entry was 79 in August. As I often wrote, always better to visit on best casting days, at least when you discover, or when you don't have good knowledge of casting. After, you can take appointment with girls you want to repeat. Also, very risky to pay entry 60 or more for a small club with few girls, if you don't know the casting. Since covid, average level of girls fell, less pretties and many small pussies, but can still find some really pretty and good for 50 in NRW, 70 in NL and 100/30 and I'm happy for this, driving thousands kilometers to enjoy my good ones. At Sharks, most of best are for 100 and prettier, more fresh than at Globe for 165 €/30. Level in Switzerland really fell. Germany and 2 NL on border are better value for money. My subjective experience, being a foreigner, but more regular than many locals and only attracted by quality. Quantity or hygienic sex don t interest me and I hate to waste my money for low quality.

I am planning my next Euro-trip. German trains being what they are now days. I want each train travel day to be just one easy train. Then, local metro. Last trip I missed every connection, because my first train ran late.

I am in my mid 40's. I like 30-something ladies and MILFs are fine with me. I like real tits, and round butts. If the attitude and service are right, give me a 7. I want DFK, BBBJ and vaginal sex in the usual positions.

The two criteria I am looking for in an FKK is a hot tub, whirl-pool or Jacuzzi. If it also had a porn theater, that would be tits. I would prefer to find a club where ladies are not known to up-sell and under deliver.

I plan to hit up Sakura in Boblingen, again. I am hoping to go 3 or more rounds there. I had a great time there in late September.

Then, I have an overnight in Strasbourg to eat and drink.

Next, I need a city that is just one easy train from Strasbourg. After that, one easy train from that city to Berlin. Koln, Dusseldorf, and Dortmund are good options. Does anyone know any other good options? I would like to find an FKK that meets my criteria. Hopefully near a city that is good for a night of bier drinking.

Is there nothing in the middle of Germany?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3033522]Visiting on worst days, you can't judge clubs real potential, when you don't see whole casting, but your money and your choice, but then, your reports are not reliable about clubs. HH at Magnum is 40, not 50, written on their website and what I used to pay. I try to write here a bit of knowledge about FKKs, when I don't read much.[/QUOTE]I have a lot of clubs I want to visit, so some have to be on the slower days. I can't go to them all Thursday thru Saturday. So guys reading the reports can take into account what days I went. My hunch is that even if I did go to some of these clubs Thursday thru Saturday, then it would be just be a larger collection of ugly girls LOL! That's usually how it works in this business. And when it comes to what I paid to get into a club my reports are 100%, ironclad reliable. Whatever I said I paid, that's exactly what the receptionist asked me to pay to enter, and that's what I paid.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033544]I have a lot of clubs I want to visit, so some have to be on the slower days. I can't go to them all Thursday thru Saturday. So guys reading the reports can take into account what days I went. My hunch is that even if I did go to some of these clubs Thursday thru Saturday, then it would be just be a larger collection of ugly girls LOL! That's usually how it works in this business. And when it comes to what I paid to get into a club my reports are 100%, ironclad reliable. Whatever I said I paid, that's exactly what the receptionist asked me to pay to enter, and that's what I paid.[/QUOTE]No, just your lack of knowledge, like for Magnum entry rate. Best girls don't waste their time and money to pay entry, for slow business. This business changed since covid. Many girls work less time, but for more expensive rate. But you seem to think you know, when seeing on worst days and when PHG and Prime don't even worth anymore a visit compare to some other clubs I gave on several times. But once again, your time and money, when I hate to waste mine.

The trains are never convenient. The best thing is to get a rental car from Thursday to Monday which has the cheapest rates. Düsseldorf area has the best deals.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3033362]I am planning my next Euro-trip. German trains being what they are now days. I want each train travel day to be just one easy train. Then, local metro. Last trip I missed every connection, because my first train ran late.

I am in my mid 40's. I like 30-something ladies and MILFs are fine with me. I like real tits, and round butts. If the attitude and service are right, give me a 7. I want DFK, BBBJ and vaginal sex in the usual positions.

The two criteria I am looking for in an FKK is a hot tub, whirl-pool or Jacuzzi. If it also had a porn theater, that would be tits. I would prefer to find a club where ladies are not known to up-sell and under deliver.

I plan to hit up Sakura in Boblingen, again. I am hoping to go 3 or more rounds there. I had a great time there in late September.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3032907]Is she silicon? Not Giulia?[/QUOTE]Yes she is silicon with one pierced nipple and also her pussy is pierced but she told me her name was Gina. Maybe I misheard. She generally arrives late to Penelope at around 9pm and stays to at least 2am. She also has a large tattoo on her one side of her buttocks and a small one in the middle of her chest between her tits. Did you meet someone similar and did you fuck her?

Howie.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3032916]Wellcum has always been on my bucket list as the idea of combining it with an Alpine holiday appeals and having an adjoining hotel is a plus. On a weekend, how many girls are typically working?[/QUOTE]70+ on weekdays and 120+ on weekends. There should be someone fuckable in that crowd for you as the average quality of the line up is pretty good. On par with Sharks.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;3032478]To the Cane.

How's your FKK tour coming along? Surprised you haven't tried Penelope yet. Sure to find a few gems there. I'll be heading there this weekend as well as Sharks. Just got back into Europe after a two week trip in the Far East. Bangkok was meh as well as HK. In Vienna at the moment and had a quick laufhaus fuck with a Jessica Tarlov lookalike from Romania. Oppose a lot of JT's politics but that nerdy look of hers gets my juices going. Anyways hope Germany and Prague delivers for me next.

Howie.[/QUOTE]Here's the Jessica Tarlov lookalike by the name Lora I fucked in Vienna recently at Zollgasse 3 during my Vienna stopover:

[URL]https://www.das-laufhaus.at/zollgasse3/girl/lora-first-visit[/URL]

Also I fucked a skanky blonde Romanian by the name Lorette at Studio Love Place:

[URL]http://www.studioloveplace.at/girls-solo.php?id=40[/URL]

Enjoy.

Howie

[QUOTE=Howie;3033701]Yes she is silicon with one pierced nipple and also her pussy is pierced but she told me her name was Gina. Maybe I misheard. She generally arrives late to Penelope at around 9pm and stays to at least 2am. She also has a large tattoo on her one side of her buttocks and a small one in the middle of her chest between her tits. Did you meet someone similar and did you fuck her?.[/QUOTE]Not sure same. Mine has super sexy body, but glasses and quite sure for silicon, blocked me.

[QUOTE=Howie;3033702]70+ on weekdays and 120+ on weekends. There should be someone fuckable in that crowd for you as the average quality of the line up is pretty good. On par with Sharks..[/QUOTE]Wellcum really can't compete with Sharks for casting quality and GFE level. Big upselling at Wellcum on this year.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3033165]TC,

Why?

Sirioja is right, you know. What works for a local guy with a monthly FKK visit, does not necessarily work for the international monger on a grand tour. Not to say the seasoned and easily bored monger who has seen it all.

You are doing a great job for ISG right now doing the hard ground work visiting all kinds av FKK clubs in search of undiscovered pearls. But unless you have any specific updated intel before your trip, you are bound to make a few misses. Searching for the daughter of that one blond bombshell you found in a FKK club in the wilderness 20 years ago is a huge risk, not to say futile.

I have fond memory of visiting small FKK clubs (Hamburg, NRW and Hessen). They have a different vibe than the larger clubs. Sometimes claustrophobic and intense. Very erotic. But usually not so much. A short visit is enough. I always keep my expectations low.

I know which clubs that work for me and that I will gladly revisit. I have also learnt that I should focus on just a couple of clubs in order to learn the girls better (the good, the bad, and the new cute girl). It works better for me. And then visit a new club every now and then - just for the adventure - but with a greater risk. But that's me. We are all different.

Will closing the worst clubs help other clubs? I highly doubt that. Which club want girls from a terrible lineup? How would that help? Clubs are closing down all the time. In particular if they are not able to renew the lineups. New clubs are popping up. It is a fierce competition out there.

Let the locals enjoy their local FKK club, I'd say.

ps.
Yeah, I agree Wellcum should be on anyone's bucket list at least once in his lifetime. There are usually a couple of hot blondes there. I bet you can make them dirty talk.[/QUOTE]How does Wellcum compare to Sharks? Its so hard ton get to.

Where is the best airport to fly to and then drive to Wellcum?

[QUOTE=Howie;3033704]Here's the Jessica Tarlov lookalike by the name Lora I fucked in Vienna recently at Zollgasse 3 during my Vienna stopover:

[URL]https://www.das-laufhaus.at/zollgasse3/girl/lora-first-visit[/URL]

Also I fucked a skanky blonde Romanian by the name Lorette at Studio Love Place:

[URL]http://www.studioloveplace.at/girls-solo.php?id=40[/URL].[/QUOTE]I like the "skanky" blonde LMAO!

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3033731]How does Wellcum compare to Sharks? Its so hard ton get to.

Where is the best airport to fly to and then drive to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]I think Klagenfurt is closest airport. But Wellcum average quality for girls don't worth a long trip. 1 hour driving from Zoncolan for me.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3033165]TC,

Why?

Sirioja is right, you know. What works for a local guy with a monthly FKK visit, does not necessarily work for the international monger on a grand tour. Not to say the seasoned and easily bored monger who has seen it all.

You are doing a great job for ISG right now doing the hard ground work visiting all kinds av FKK clubs in search of undiscovered pearls. But unless you have any specific updated intel before your trip, you are bound to make a few misses. Searching for the daughter of that one blond bombshell you found in a FKK club in the wilderness 20 years ago is a huge risk, not to say futile..[/QUOTE]I'm not at all a local, I don t even speak German, even many guys and girls in clubs think I'm German, but no. But I always try to understand how it works, for all what I try or do and I learned how work FKKs and girls, I adapted when changings. I adapt to girls who are women, probably why I manage to still get good quality with some. For example: I never went to Alex at Sharks, telling her: You are pretty, I want you. I always did let her, when she often saw me, come to me. Then, telling her: I don't feel you like me so much, then she is funny, telling: Yes I like you, why I come to see you. Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. Then, so you want we go to room I ask. Yes I want. So, lets go. Girls are different, I try to read them and adapt. Part of GFE for me, like getting the most and paying the less expensive. But I feel to read here Trump clone, rather ignorant, but thinking knowing all, but often failing. Typical American behavior, thinking king of the world, paying more expensive than normality, even no tip here, for low result. For everything in my life, I m always happy to learn, I think this called to be curious for mind and I m happy to be like that. I would not advice PHG or Oceans or Bayern to anybody for business here, nor Babylon with too expensive entry for looks.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3033731]How does Wellcum compare to Sharks? Its so hard ton get to.

Where is the best airport to fly to and then drive to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]Line-up: Sharks 60- 120 (normally 80- 100), Wellcum 40- 110 (normally 50- 70). Quality: Huge variation (of basically Romanian girls) at both. I have never had any problems finding someone hot at either of them.

Performance: Generally good at both places, but it varies from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and from time to time. Ask about services/pricing before you commit. If you want something guaranteed, then go somewhere else.

Pricing: 100 E /30 gets you far at both places. Chances for a reasonably good 80E/session are better at Wellcum. Risk of upselling at both. Somewhat more upselling at Sharks IMHO, but this will vary from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and from time to time.

Facilities: Both offer great facilities (meeting area, food, spa, garden, lockers, money lockers). Sharks is somewhat larger. I love Italian food, so I will give Wellcum the edge for that. Wellcum is surrounded by mountains, which I find lovely. Staff somewhat friendlier and more professional at Wellcum IME, but no complaints from me about the staff at Sharks (but they are severly understaffed at times). Wellcum offer rooms for partying and sleep at the premises. Sharks has none of that.

Getting to Wellcum: You can fly into Klagenfurt airport, and do a 40 mnts drive from there. Most gents land in Vienna, which makes it more inconvenient, timeconsuming and expensive than the rather quick trip from FRA to Darmstadt. Unless you are a Italian, travelling to Sharks will be a lot more convenient / cost effective.

Have fun. And report.

ps. On my recent trip to Austria (sadly not to Wellcum), all girls I spoke with or bedded agreed to DFK (for a minor fee). Reports coming up. Sirioja, feel free to stop spreading the myth that Italians are not demanding.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3033731]How does Wellcum compare to Sharks? Its so hard ton get to.

Where is the best airport to fly to and then drive to Wellcum?[/QUOTE]Refer to Shark16 commentary for comparison.

With respect to getting there, it is quite easy if you are a light traveller without to much baggage. I generally catch the early morning OBB train from either Salzburg (3. 5 hours) or Vienna (5. 5 hours) to Arnoldstein (with connection through Villach), followed by a leisurely 45 min walk to the club from the Arnoldstein train station. I depart at 6. 30 am or 7. 30 am and arrive by noon or 1 pm to the club. On the way back, you can call a taxi from the club to the Arnoldstein or Villach train stations. If you book well in advance online, say 2+ weeks ahead of time, you can get the OBB train tickets for 9. 90 euros from Salzburg or 19.90 euros from Vienna one way. Double that for a return trip. There are some decent hotels around Arnoldstein and Villach if you plan for a multi-day stay.

My last two trips I got to fuck Miss Wellcum 2024 (Debra) and Miss Wellcum 2025 (Naomy). So can't complain about the quality.

Hope this helps.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3033847]Line-up: Sharks 60- 120 (normally 80- 100), Wellcum 40- 110 (normally 50- 70). Quality: Huge variation (of basically Romanian girls) at both. I have never had any problems finding someone hot at either of them.

Performance: Generally good at both places, but it varies from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and from time to time. Ask about services/pricing before you commit. If you want something guaranteed, then go somewhere else.

Pricing: 100 E /30 gets you far at both places. Chances for a reasonably good 80E/session are better at Wellcum. Risk of upselling at both. Somewhat more upselling at Sharks IMHO, but this will vary from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and from time to time.[/QUOTE]Don't tell me FK and long time DATY or fucking are standard at Wellcum. More numerous pretties for me at Sharks, not sure I would go with take blond Debra at Sharks, even not a bad look, when I got her at Andiamo as Ina, and far higher level for GFE with some at Sharks. Upselling at Wellcum on Summer 2025, I preferred on Summer 2024. I often drive more than 1000 kms for Sharks or YY, but I would never only for Wellcum. Good point was entry 79 on this Summer.

On a separate note on the topic of lookalikes, recently had a nice hand job and body to body massage with an AOC lookalike in Prague by the name of Alexis.

A link to my report. Check it out.

[QUOTE=Howie;3033871]

[URL]https://mataharisalon.cz/en/alexis?pobocka=[/URL]

Alexis on the other hand was amazing. Very attractive with slim model like body. She was very attentive and accommodated all my desires. A definite repeat for next time.
[/QUOTE]Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;3033856]Refer to Shark16 commentary for comparison.

With respect to getting there, it is quite easy if you are a light traveller without to much baggage. I generally catch the early morning OBB train from either Salzburg (3. 5 hours) or Vienna (5. 5 hours) to Arnoldstein (with connection through Villach), followed by a leisurely 45 min walk to the club from the Arnoldstein train station. I depart at 6. 30 am or 7. 30 am and arrive by noon or 1 pm to the club. On the way back, you can call a taxi from the club to the Arnoldstein or Villach train stations. If you book well in advance online, say 2+ weeks ahead of time, you can get the OBB train tickets for 9. 90 euros from Salzburg or 19.90 euros from Vienna one way. Double that for a return trip. There are some decent hotels around Arnoldstein and Villach if you plan for a multi-day stay.

My last two trips I got to fuck Miss Wellcum 2024 (Debra) and Miss Wellcum 2025 (Naomy). So can't complain about the quality.

Hope this helps.

Howie.[/QUOTE]Its only a 1 1/2 hour drive from Munich.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3033923]Its only a 1 1/2 hour drive from Munich.[/QUOTE]Yeah right. It's at least a 3.5 hour drive by car from Munich to Wellcum per Google maps. What are you smoking?

[QUOTE=Howie;3033927]Yeah right. It's at least a 3.5 hour drive by car from Munich to Wellcum per Google maps. What are you smoking?[/QUOTE]Agree. Munich to Arnoldstein (Wellcum) is at least 3. 5 hours in the car. If there is no traffic and you don't stop for fuel, snack, pee. Usually there is some traffic. I would definitely calculate 4 hours drive.

[QUOTE=DavidAnderson;3033923]Its only a 1 1/2 hour drive from Munich.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is on Italian border. There, everybody speak Italian, not German, when Italians speak German in Alte Adige Dolomiti. Munchen to Austrian border is not far from 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3033876]Don't tell me FK and long time DATY or fucking are standard at Wellcum. More numerous pretties for me at Sharks, not sure I would go with take blond Debra at Sharks, even not a bad look, when I got her at Andiamo as Ina, and far higher level for GFE with some at Sharks. Upselling at Wellcum on Summer 2025, I preferred on Summer 2024. I often drive more than 1000 kms for Sharks or YY, but I would never only for Wellcum. Good point was entry 79 on this Summer.[/QUOTE]Fake blond Debra / Ina Miss 2024, lovely but nothing exceptional for sex for my standards and I was surprised she was really not busy at Andiamo around bikers party on 2024, I didn't see her having another room than our 30 mn for 80. Really not the best for real FK. Same for really pretty Elina at Wellcum.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3033876]Don't tell me FK and long time DATY or fucking are standard at Wellcum.[/QUOTE]Hehe. I didn't. It's always a bit of luck and charm (and groundwork) (and a minor fee) in Austrian clubs.

That said, I stick by what I actually said. Call it luck, if you want.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3034056]Hehe. I didn't. It's always a bit of luck and charm (and groundwork) (and a minor fee) in Austrian clubs.

That said, I stick by what I actually said. Call it luck, if you want.[/QUOTE]You speak about Austria, I speak about Wellcum only. At Wellcum, real FK are really not standard, not meaning all don't kiss, but most don't and it was very difficult for me to find attractive on this Summer and I don't care what do not attractive ones. Several Wellcum girls telling me since years, when I visit every Summer to recover from hell of Zoncolan. It where you feel your whole body burning, Italians don't kiss, you are big and fuck too much, told by girls used to Italians business, so I answer: but I'm not Italian, even I love my holidays in Dolomiti and Frioul. At GT on Summer 2020, yes real FK were standard for 200/60 with Coralia and Sepid and also at Wellcum on 2017 with exceptional GFE Lena. Ro for 140/60. Big upselling on this Summer at Wellcum. If I didn't go to Zoncolan, I would not go to Wellcum and I find much higher quality at Sharks, if you were lucky to experience German Paris, Leoni, Jasmin for full GFE. Was same with Sofi. De and Bambi.

I shall soon be returning to the Frankfurt area to wrap up my month-long tour of the German FKK scene. If anything interesting or extraordinary happens, I will report (good or bad).

I'm lucky enough to have a business trip to Zurich soon for 24 hours but am thinking of extending my stay for a further three days (Thursday-Saturday) so I can head up and also enjoy Frankfurt or more specifically Sharks. I am weighing staying an extra day in Zurich (Thursday) which I would spend in Globe against spending all 3 spare days in Sharks.

I have only been to Globe once in Summer of 2022 when I was fairly underwhelmed. I had two sessions which were both great. One with Daisy the Bulgarian pornstar who was basically a horny animal and a people pleaser by nature (ie the ideal hooker) and Romanian Aida who from their website is still there. But I was hardly spoiled for choice as most of the other girls were fairly generic with too much lip filler, fake boobs, heavily tattooed and bleached hair. It did come as surprise as pre-covid I always had an image of Globe being the gold standard in FKKs in terms of beauties and service.

By contrast, in my recent visit to Sharks in September there were easily a dozen girls who wowed me and I could have spent 4 days and not got bored or through my list of stunners. 3 of the girls I went with, I would happily see again so doubt I'll get through all the girls I want to sample.

I appreciate Globe is more expensive but service levels generally more assured but has it improved or still at 2022 level. Recent reports suggest not but you don't always get a balanced view. It does seem a shame to be in Zurich and not visit Globe but would appreciate opinions on whether it is worth sacrificing a day at Sharks.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;3034674]I'm lucky enough to have a business trip to Zurich soon for 24 hours but am thinking of extending my stay for a further three days (Thursday-Saturday) so I can head up and also enjoy Frankfurt or more specifically Sharks. I am weighing staying an extra day in Zurich (Thursday) which I would spend in Globe against spending all 3 spare days in Sharks.

I have only been to Globe once in Summer of 2022 when I was fairly underwhelmed. I had two sessions which were both great. One with Daisy the Bulgarian pornstar who was basically a horny animal and a people pleaser by nature (ie the ideal hooker) and Romanian Aida who from their website is still there. But I was hardly spoiled for choice as most of the other girls were fairly generic with too much lip filler, fake boobs, heavily tattooed and bleached hair. It did come as surprise as pre-covid I always had an image of Globe being the gold standard in FKKs in terms of beauties and service.

By contrast, in my recent visit to Sharks in September there were easily a dozen girls who wowed me and I could have spent 4 days and not got bored or through my list of stunners. 3 of the girls I went with, I would happily see again so doubt I'll get through all the girls I want to sample.[/QUOTE]If You need fresh natural beauties, like me, to be inspired, then Sharks is above on this year, with Evalina, Alex, Naomi, Franceska, Ruxy, Esra, Rachel, Alba, Isa, Lori and also some really good GFE, Daniela ex GT Vienna, or Ginger, both natural look. If You need rules to deal with girls, or if You want public sex, then Globe. 165€/30 at Globe for many average looks and silicon contest, when I got many good GFE rooms for 100 at Sharks, with no rush from really pretty girls. I don t like to pay more expensive for lower quality, when look and image is first criteria to inspire me to play my tramp game, to try to get the most from girls for the less expensive paid, increasing GFE feeling for me, when extras or money talk are killing GFE for me.

Will be in Cologne from November 16 to 19.19th Sunday evening planning to visit Samya. Monday and Tuesday thinking of going to any of these two places from Penelope, Mondiel, ACA Gold or Babylon.

Since it is Monday and Tuesday clubs will be dull. After 8 PM Mondiel can be active on any day. If so my fingers crossed on which day will be better to visit Penelope? Feel like Tuesday can be better than Monday in Penelope. Bit confused long trip from Cologne can be a waste to Penelope trip. Need advice.

[QUOTE=Thampi62;3035289]Will be in Cologne from November 16 to 19.19th Sunday evening planning to visit Samya. Monday and Tuesday thinking of going to any of these two places from Penelope, Mondiel, ACA Gold or Babylon.

Since it is Monday and Tuesday clubs will be dull. After 8 PM Mondiel can be active on any day. If so my fingers crossed on which day will be better to visit Penelope? Feel like Tuesday can be better than Monday in Penelope. Bit confused long trip from Cologne can be a waste to Penelope trip. Need advice.[/QUOTE]I would not make the trip from Koln to Penelope on Monday or Tuesday, even entry 25. Maybe on Sunday. Unfortunately fall for casting quality at Samya, but Sunday is better than Monday or Tuesday. Monday and Tuesday give weak casting everywhere, except around 50 girls at Sharks and 30 at Globe, but most best ones are off.

How much was the campaign donation for that?

[QUOTE=Howie;3033877]On a separate note on the topic of lookalikes, recently had a nice hand job and body to body massage with an AOC lookalike in Prague by the name of Alexis.

A link to my report. Check it out..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrPoon;3035444]How much was the campaign donation for that?[/QUOTE]About 100 USD bucks for her to jack me off.

Holy shit!! Just saw this hotty profile of Melissa from the same saloon. Only wish I was back in Prague right now. Dammit.

[URL]https://mataharisalon.cz/en/melissa?pobocka=[/URL]

Howie.

Gentleman,

I have returned from my month-long "fuck finding mission" to FKKLand. I'm talking 21 establishments over 30 days within 5 different regions of Germany. The central purpose of the mission was to conduct a survey of the FKK landscape and to report my findings, either confirming or denying the already general consensus regarding the state of affairs post-COVID, which is that things are no longer as good as they used to be. There were some highs, many lows, and lots on in betweens. My conclusion is in alignment with the majority view, which is that the FKK scene in Germany is seriously degraded from what it was pre-COVID. From my perspective, the main reason is because the optics quality of the girls and their willingness to "put out" is less than what it was pre-COVID. Prices are up while quality and service is down. For example, I never spoke to so many girls who weren't willing to do CIM. That used to be a service that virtually all the girls were willing to provide for a 50 euros upcharge. I even spoke to one princess at Oceans who refused to do BBBJs! She has to lose a lot of business because of that. Don't get me wrong. There are still plenty of girls who will do CIM. It's just that the number of girls who won't provide that service is noticeably higher. And when it came to finding a girl I liked who would do anal, that proved to be virtually impossible! Depending on the trip, pre-COVID I butt fucked anywhere from 40% to 70% of the tutes I went with. But this last time, I had a very hard time finding any girl willing to offer up the "popeka". In fact, during the month I had 9 sessions with 8 different girls, with only one of those sessions including anal sex. Now, to the average guy that might sound impressive. To fuck 8 different girls in a month, including 1 of them in the ass. But we mongers know that's pretty mediocre. Pre-COVID, I could fuck more than twice as many girls in just 10 days, and again depending on the trip, 40% to 70% of those I fucked in the butt!

So, are there still any good clubs to go to in Germany? Is there still any good action to be had? Well, the answer to that is absolutely! It's all relative, and although the scene overall may not be as strong as it was before the pandemic, there are still some good clubs out there. The thing is that the best action is all spread out all over Germany now without that powerful concentration of top clubs located in the Frankfurt area, making it less cost effective to visit Germany for a traveling, tourist monger such as myself. Following are the clubs that I liked the most in each region that I visited, in the order of attendance: Sharks (Frankfurt); Harmony (Hamburg); Artemis (Berlin); Sunshine (Munich); Oceans (Dusseldorf). I also extend honorable mentions to Penelope (but wish the facilities were a little better) and to Mainhattan & Acapulco Gold (but wish the talent was a little better at both). And my call as to the number 1 best club in Germany right now? I would have to give it to Sharks. The facilities, the food, the relative ease of getting to the club, and of course the quality and optics of the girls. I think Sharks overall is offering the best FKK environment in Germany today. Now, I'm not likely to return to Germany to monger anytime soon. And if I did, it would be a much shorter visit with a more focused and targeted effort at having the most fun at the best of what's on offer today post-COVID. The thing is, when it comes to Europe, I don't see a viable path forward for me at this time. Switzerland would just be more expensive without better optics or performance. That's what I found pre-COVID. So, why would Switzerland be any better now? Austria was never a suitable substitute for Germany. I really used to love mongering in Spain, but the value proposition fell with prices rising and rising and rising without optics and service doing the same. Portugal, France, and the UK have strong escort scenes, but that's not my thing. The Netherlands, Belgium, the Czech Republic? Please!

I'm glad I had an opportunity to do what I did this past October. What an experience it was, and I would do it all over again! The FKK scene in Germany isn't dead. It's just overall not what it used to be. The same can be said for the top mongering destinations all over the world. Going forward, I think for me the best option will be to keep things closer to home for awhile. I'm talking about the Americas where there are plenty of hunting grounds. In South America, I still have my beloved Brazil, my favorite mongering destination of them all. In North America, things are no longer what they were in Costa Rica either, the country where I first became a monger (see my trip report from September 2024). Panama also has badly fallen off. But, I think that Mexico would be fertile hunting grounds. I mongered in Tijuana once and had a good time, but did not like it enough to return. Mexico is a big country though with plenty of other options. I think it's time for me to tap into some of those. Then there's Canada, one very huge country in terms of geographical size. The Montreal and Toronto escort scenes aren't for me, but I think I'm going to do a little digging. See what else I might be able to unearth in Canada. I hope you all enjoyed the reports I made during my "fuck finding mission" to FKKLand. One of the things that makes a trip both enjoyable and memorable for me is to be able to share what I experienced in a way that exactly reflects how it made me think, feel, and act at the time. I'll never forget my month-long jaunt around Germany, and thank you all for forgiving me of my perverted indulgences!

Note: I didn’t visit Cologne this time, but I have in the past, and I liked Samya and Mondial. From what my research tells me, both of those clubs are still worth a visit if you’re in the area.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3035605]Gentleman,

I have returned from my month-long "fuck finding mission" to FKKLand. I'm talking 21 establishments over 30 days within 5 different regions of Germany.......during the month I had 9 sessions with 8 different girls......[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reports. You have been true to the purpose of this web site. Having been to 21 different establishments and dating 8 women means you went to 13 clubs where you did not do any rooms. That's a lot. I know your standards are high but it still says a lot about the quality in German FKKs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3035730]Thanks for your reports. You have been true to the purpose of this web site. Having been to 21 different establishments and dating 8 women means you went to 13 clubs where you did not do any rooms. That's a lot. I know your standards are high but it still says a lot about the quality in German FKKs.[/QUOTE]To be 100% transparent, as I was when writing the reports, three of the establishments where I did not session weren't FKKs, but essentially bordellos. But, that still leaves 10 FKKs where I didn't go to the room. And yes, some of the clubs I visited on typically slower days of the week. That's the only way I was able to fit them all in. But still, I argue that what separates a really good club from the rest of the pack is that you can show up there on any day of the week and still find some good action. That's how Oase [B]used[/B] to be when I first started patronizing FKK sauna clubs way back when. That's what helped make it my favorite FKK in all of Germany. It certainly wasn't the food LOL! Based on that criteria Oase would have come in dead last! Ha!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3035737]To be 100% transparent, as I was when writing the reports, three of the establishments where I did not session weren't FKKs, but essentially bordellos. But, that still leaves 10 FKKs where I didn't go to the room. And yes, some of the clubs I visited on typically slower days of the week. That's the only way I was able to fit them all in. But still, I argue that what separates a really good club from the rest of the pack is that you can show up there on any day of the week and still find some good action. That's how Oase [B]used[/B] to be when I first started patronizing FKK sauna clubs way back when. That's what helped make it my favorite FKK in all of Germany. It certainly wasn't the food LOL! Based on that criteria Oase would have come in dead last! Ha![/QUOTE]Wow what a trip. So you went to 10 x FKK's, paid the entry fee, and just looked around, ate some food and had some drinks! It must have been an ordinary time at the club indeed.

Maybe I haven't found it, but you could put all your trip reports together into one epic post.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3035730]Thanks for your reports. You have been true to the purpose of this web site. Having been to 21 different establishments and dating 8 women means you went to 13 clubs where you did not do any rooms. That's a lot. I know your standards are high but it still says a lot about the quality in German FKKs.[/QUOTE]When most of your visits are on worst days, or you leave early night clubs, or don t visit some of best clubs at the moment, can't say you are looking for quality, but more a real lack of knowledge of FKKs at the moment, when Oceans for best in NRW can only make laughing those with a bit of knowledge. I call it a tourist tour, missing a lot of quality, when Germany still worth long drive for me, when I had many very good rooms with very pretties for 100, I don't pay 250/60 which is escort rate in Paris, on this year and will keep on, but only visiting best clubs for real and on best days and time, when I hate to waste my money. A bit like ignorant Trump in our world. Yes, some good clubs like GT, LR, Vertigo / GG, closed and Velbert or World or Freubad. Ch fell for quality, but Sharks casting on this year is higher level than on 2017 to 2019. In this business, we experience from what we look for and what we are.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3035810]When most of your visits are on worst days, or you leave early night clubs, or don t visit some of best clubs at the moment, can't say you are looking for quality, but more a real lack of knowledge of FKKs at the moment, when Oceans for best in NRW can only make laughing those with a bit of knowledge. I call it a tourist tour, missing a lot of quality, when Germany still worth long drive for me, when I had many very good rooms with very pretties for 100, I don't pay 250/60 which is escort rate in Paris, on this year and will keep on, but only visiting best clubs for real and on best days and time, when I hate to waste my money. A bit like ignorant Trump in our world. Yes, some good clubs like GT, LR, Vertigo / GG, closed and Velbert or World or Freubad. Ch fell for quality, but Sharks casting on this year is higher level than on 2017 to 2019. In this business, we experience from what we look for and what we are.[/QUOTE]Is another man's treasure! It's not about a lack of knowledge. It's about different preferences and the resources you have to achieve them. I'm obviously different from you with a purpose for this trip that you clearly neither can comprehend nor could possibly afford. From seeing your posts over the years, I most assuredly have a lot more money than you do and better taste. You're out here searching for high-end Porches on a low-end Peugeot budget! Preferring mostly cheap, dirty, small, lower quality clubs with mostly unattractive girls. A place like Oceans is my style. Clean, modern, easy to access, with great facilities and better food. And it had a collection of some of the more attractive girls of any club I visited over the month. So you stick with your dilapidated, rundown, cheap Charlie, penny pinching favorites like Magnum where you need happy hour pricing to save a dime LOL! What a dump upstairs! And I will stick with the uptown clubs like Oceans, Sharks, and Artemis with the most attractive girls, easy access, and the best facilities. Hell, Mainhattan was better than the dumps you like! Penelope had a lot of 7's, but it's way the fuck out in the middle of nowhere like lots of the ones you promote (good for your bicycle I guess) and kind of nasty facilities!

The reality of the higher cost of today's FKKs, among other things, is what makes the scene worse than what it used to be. Pre-COVID and before the condom law, for 250 euros I was getting an hour with massage, BBBJ, CIM, straight sex, and anal sex, to include multiple "shots on goal". Back then you were too cheap and lacking in resources to pay even that for that level of service, often promoting sleeping in your car to save money LOLOLOL! Well times have changed. You can't get that level of service for that amount of money anymore. And a lot of the new girls don't even want to do CIM or anal at any price! I know what I like, and that's what I go for. Guys like me will like the same. Meanwhile, guys like you won't. And one reason is because you simply can't afford it. Somebody might look at Jay Leno and say that he wastes his money because he has so many cars he can't possibly drive. But to him it's not a waste because it's his passion, and he has plenty of money to enjoy what he does. Cheap, tightwad guys like you who never had any money (and never will) won't ever get it.

[QUOTE=Maximillian757;3035787]Wow what a trip. So you went to 10 x FKK's, paid the entry fee, and just looked around, ate some food and had some drinks! It must have been an ordinary time at the club indeed. Maybe I haven't found it, but you could put all your trip reports together into one epic post.[/QUOTE]The best of the reports are now in the FKK Reports of Distinction. But there are many more. Just look in the appropriate thread for a club you are interested in, and there is a chance I visited if it's in the Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin, Munich, or Dusseldorf areas.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3035810]When most of your visits are on worst days, or you leave early night clubs, or don t visit some of best clubs at the moment, can't say you are looking for quality, but more a real lack of knowledge of FKKs at the moment, when Oceans for best in NRW can only make laughing those with a bit of knowledge. I call it a tourist tour, missing a lot of quality, when Germany still worth long drive for me, when I had many very good rooms with very pretties for 100, I don't pay 250/60 which is escort rate in Paris, on this year and will keep on, but only visiting best clubs for real and on best days and time, when I hate to waste my money. A bit like ignorant Trump in our world. Yes, some good clubs like GT, LR, Vertigo / GG, closed and Velbert or World or Freubad. Ch fell for quality, but Sharks casting on this year is higher level than on 2017 to 2019. In this business, we experience from what we look for and what we are.[/QUOTE]Sirioja you have admitted to leaving FKKs on many occasions 'with full balls'. However, I think the Cane has outdone you in that regard. Perhaps, dare I say it, his standards are higher than yours?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3035876]Sirioja you have admitted to leaving FKKs on many occasions 'with full balls'. However, I think the Cane has outdone you in that regard. Perhaps, dare I say it, his standards are higher than yours?[/QUOTE]I'm fully sure I'm pickier than him, when I don't even know who is Scarlet at Sharks after so many visits on last years and I don't see any worthing 200/60 at Sharks since end of March. Sometimes I don't find, but I go to clubs where I know I should find, when I don't drive more than 1000 kms to go to restaurant. Germany still worth I keep on going for FKKs. My meaning is when you visit in worst conditions, you should not find best quality. And anal is also not best to go with prettiest and most GFE who are my targets.

One night in Hamburg. A Sunday unfortunately, in December.

I'll have a rental car. Which FKK should I go to?

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3035894]I'm fully sure I'm pickier than him, when I don't even know who is Scarlet at Sharks after so many visits on last years.[/QUOTE]You don't share my tastes, except for "Bambi" I suppose. But how arrogant! To suggest that "Scarlett" must not be attractive because you didn't notice her! I can assure you plenty of others in the club do. She has no problem making her money. The whole discussion of who is "pickier" is ignorant anyway because it's all according to individual tastes and preferences. T

[QUOTE=Abox79;3035903]One night in Hamburg. A Sunday unfortunately, in December.

I'll have a rental car. Which FKK should I go to?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Only Harmony Seevetal 25 kms south Hamburg seem to worth now, even I had good visits at Atmos before covid. Harmony is nice small club. Look on website, they used to give girls working on day. Hamburg, same than Bayern, are not best for FKKs compare to NRW and Hessen.

[QUOTE=Abox79;3035903]One night in Hamburg. A Sunday unfortunately, in December.

I'll have a rental car. Which FKK should I go to?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]In addition to a FKK, you might want to consider a hotty from Modelle-Hamburg for an incall.

I'm looking to return to Hamburg early next year for a couple of days but I plan to check out some of the girls from Modelle-Hamburg. Had some pretty good experiences from that website pre-covid. I'm keen to do a repeat with one hotty I fucked back then who is still active and also try out a hot newbie during my next visit.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;3036055]In addition to a FKK, you might want to consider a hotty from Modelle-Hamburg for an incall.

I'm looking to return to Hamburg early next year for a couple of days but I plan to check out some of the girls from Modelle-Hamburg. Had some pretty good experiences from that website pre-covid. I'm keen to do a repeat with one hotty I fucked back then who is still active and also try out a hot newbie during my next visit.

Howie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Abox79;3035903]One night in Hamburg. A Sunday unfortunately, in December.

I'll have a rental car. Which FKK should I go to?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]One night, go to a FKK. Why spend all the time findiong someone on a website, vetting them and then finding out the reviews are fake?

In winter Seevetel is pretty lame- in summer it's a dream come true. Sitting outside is amazing. Atmos could be better in winter though.

You should check out the more recent German forum reports, versus the reports here.

I would probably wear a warm jacket and take a walk thoruogh the Reeperbahn for yucks. It's a bit like Amsterdam without the window shopping. YOu might get lucky. At worse you'll tell people you walked it.

Hamburg is the BDSM capital of Germany, forget Berlin, it's all about Hamburg. There are clubs, more ladies per square inch that offer services etc. "IF THAT"S YOUR GAME".

I did a few reports 2-3 years ago on the city under FKKs.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3036062]One night, go to a FKK. Why spend all the time finding someone on a website, vetting them and then finding out the reviews are fake.[/QUOTE]I was not long ago in Hamburg and wrote recent, accurate, factual reports on the FKKs in the area. Harmony is easily the best one. Do not / not waste time with Atmos and Babylon at this time (read my reports to see why). And FKK Romeo is no more.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3035925]You don't share my tastes, except for "Bambi" I suppose. But how arrogant! To suggest that "Scarlett" must not be attractive because you didn't notice her! I can assure you plenty of others in the club do. She has no problem making her money. The whole discussion of who is "pickier" is ignorant anyway because it's all according to individual tastes and preferences. T[/QUOTE]Which Bambi? At Harmony on 2017, or at Sharks on beginning of this year? But I insist, visiting on best time best clubs should give best quality, rather than disappointing quantity.

How come they don't play more theme-based music to set the right mood in the clubs? Let The Cane be the DJ!

There's some Hoors in This House: [URL]https://youtu.be/UVXbBkCtVRw?si=8B1POHeRIEmOuQGz[/URL]

Fuck with Me and Get Some Money: [URL]https://youtu.be/l_lblj8Cq0o?si=1a0Fc9tHlbvf0gA7[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3036272]How come they don't play more theme-based music to set the right mood in the clubs? Let The Cane be the DJ!

There's some Hoors in This House: [URL]https://youtu.be/UVXbBkCtVRw?si=8B1POHeRIEmOuQGz[/URL]

Fuck with Me and Get Some Money: [URL]https://youtu.be/l_lblj8Cq0o?si=1a0Fc9tHlbvf0gA7[/URL][/QUOTE]Please also consider Ima Fuck a White *****, by Horsedick.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIrgoJq--Mg[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3036272]How come they don't play more theme-based music to set the right mood in the clubs? Let The Cane be the DJ!

There's some Hoors in This House: [URL]https://youtu.be/UVXbBkCtVRw?si=8B1POHeRIEmOuQGz[/URL]

Fuck with Me and Get Some Money: [URL]https://youtu.be/l_lblj8Cq0o?si=1a0Fc9tHlbvf0gA7[/URL][/QUOTE]My favorite version of this song.

[URL]https://youtu.be/v-Bbkj86cRw?si=zXSqVMv24BJnTavj[/URL]

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3036291]My favorite version of this song.

[URL]https://youtu.be/v-Bbkj86cRw?si=zXSqVMv24BJnTavj[/URL][/QUOTE]Good one! Funny version. I actually went to go see them within the last year. This was not on the set list LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3036272]How come they don't play more theme-based music to set the right mood in the clubs? Let The Cane be the DJ!

There's some Hoors in This House: [URL]https://youtu.be/UVXbBkCtVRw?si=8B1POHeRIEmOuQGz[/URL]

Fuck with Me and Get Some Money: [URL]https://youtu.be/l_lblj8Cq0o?si=1a0Fc9tHlbvf0gA7[/URL][/QUOTE]I thought you would have preferred to hear this song in the FKK.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDBD2XxommE&list=RDSDBD2XxommE&start_radio=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036348]I thought you would have preferred to hear this song in the FKK.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDBD2XxommE&list=RDSDBD2XxommE&start_radio=1[/URL][/QUOTE]You know me better than that!

[URL]https://youtu.be/es5PX8tN1e8?si=cx1qPRPyIre-Dik1[/URL]

Let me fuck you baby (try to stick tongue in booty hole around 3:05 mark):

[URL]https://youtu.be/Q4glPR5Ebc0?si=RvtnkqZPXR3jWkMq[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;3036277]Please also consider Ima Fuck a White *****, by Horsedick.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIrgoJq--Mg[/URL][/QUOTE]He most definitely makes his intentions known! LOLOLOL!

How do you guys fend off girls you're not interested in? I saw a couple of guys at Sharks who cracked me up because they would just simply ignore girls. I mean, a girl might be only a few feet away smiling and waving and saying "Hi", and these guys would look right through them all stone faced. I usually try to be a little more friendly. If a girl is close right in my line of sight, ordinarily I will acknowledge her. If she asks if I want her to join me and I have no interest, then I will just smile and shake my head no. Sometimes a girl might approach and sit close or even on my lap. If I'm not interested, then I will say something like I'm just hanging out and relaxing and having a drink. It's when a tute gets pushy that I can get pushy right back. If she gets all haughty and says, "Why"? I might just shoot back, "Because I said so"! How do you guys fend off chicks you don't want?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3037408]How do you guys fend off girls you're not interested in? I saw a couple of guys at Sharks who cracked me up because they would just simply ignore girls. I mean, a girl might be only a few feet away smiling and waving and saying "Hi", and these guys would look right through them all stone faced. I usually try to be a little more friendly. If a girl is close right in my line of sight, ordinarily I will acknowledge her. If she asks if I want her to join me and I have no interest, then I will just smile and shake my head no. Sometimes a girl might approach and sit close or even on my lap. If I'm not interested, then I will say something like I'm just hanging out and relaxing and having a drink. It's when a tute gets pushy that I can get pushy right back. If she gets all haughty and says, "Why"? I might just shoot back, "Because I said so"! How do you guys fend off chicks you don't want?[/QUOTE]I point to my wristwatch silently. Most girls understand it's something to do with time and leave me alone. Maybe I already made an appointment with a girl, maybe I need time to recover between the rooms, maybe I am waiting for a friend to arrive at the club, whatever. If a girl insists on an explanation, I tell her one of these things.

With some girls, when I don't like they come to me, I say: I don't have money, meaning: for you. Some telling: then, go home, but many locals come only to eat, drink, sauna and look asses, when girls are too expensive.

At Penelope, brother Gold, or Oase, better to put values in small lockers.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3037408]How do you guys fend off chicks you don't want?[/QUOTE]I tell them very friendly that I am just looking around currently and make a superficial compliment on their appearance and then say "maybe later" or that I have an appointment with another girl. Usually they understand this hint and don't start getting pushy.

I am never rude in any way, (1) because that's not my personality and (2) because other girls I might be interested in see this and then will think I am not a nice client. The girls at clubs are human beings, too. Like everyone else, they want to be treated with dignity and respect.

Very rarely, if the approach is really over the top and inappropriate, I am directly telling them that I am not currently interested and that they should please leave me alone. Think that happened once in Sharks Club with Monika. Some here might know her. She comes to the couch or bed upstairs and starts kissing and performing all sorts of unwanted acts and doesn't stop even when told "please stop". She's actually kind of nice, but it's way too much to be quite honest.

[QUOTE=TenEleven;3037508]I tell them very friendly that I am just looking around currently and make a superficial compliment on their appearance and then say "maybe later" or that I have an appointment with another girl. Usually they understand this hint and don't start getting pushy.

I am never rude in any way, (1) because that's not my personality and (2) because other girls I might be interested in see this and then will think I am not a nice client. The girls at clubs are human beings, too. Like everyone else, they want to be treated with dignity and respect.

Very rarely, if the approach is really over the top and inappropriate, I am directly telling them that I am not currently interested and that they should please leave me alone. Think that happened once in Sharks Club with Monika. Some here might know her. She comes to the couch or bed upstairs and starts kissing and performing all sorts of unwanted acts and doesn't stop even when told "please stop". She's actually kind of nice, but it's way too much to be quite honest.[/QUOTE]I never say "maybe later" to girls I'm not interested in because I don't want to leave them with any hope. Not interested. Try another guy.

[QUOTE=TenEleven;3037508]I tell them very friendly that I am just looking around currently and make a superficial compliment on their appearance and then say "maybe later" or that I have an appointment with another girl. Usually they understand this hint and don't start getting pushy.

I am never rude in any way, (1) because that's not my personality and (2) because other girls I might be interested in see this and then will think I am not a nice client. The girls at clubs are human beings, too. Like everyone else, they want to be treated with dignity and respect.

Very rarely, if the approach is really over the top and inappropriate, I am directly telling them that I am not currently interested and that they should please leave me alone. Think that happened once in Sharks Club with Monika. Some here might know her. She comes to the couch or bed upstairs and starts kissing and performing all sorts of unwanted acts and doesn't stop even when told "please stop". She's actually kind of nice, but it's way too much to be quite honest.[/QUOTE]And she is not pretty. Like Sylvana, she gets weak guys who are dominated by girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3037474]With some girls, when I don't like they come to me, I say: I don't have money, meaning: for you. Some telling: then, go home, but many locals come only to eat, drink, sauna and look asses, when girls are too expensive.[/QUOTE]If you say: maybe later, many girls with slow business, will return to ask again. When many girls ask too expensive now, many have slow business, so they hunt.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3037526]I never say "maybe later" to girls I'm not interested in because I don't want to leave them with any hope. Not interested. Try another guy.[/QUOTE]I first say 'no thanks'. If she persists I say 'maybe later'. She ought to have left after I said 'no thanks'. I try to be as succinct as possible.

Hello;.

I'm thinking about whether to visit Germany between December 15-21 or between December 22-28. Which would be better? Are there many women during the week of Christmas? (I'm considering spending 2 days in NRW and 2 days near Frankfurt.) Also, I forgot the website address, could you please share the link to the German FKK forum?

[QUOTE=Blancoco12;3038194]Hello. I'm thinking about whether to visit Germany between December 15-21 or between December 22-28. Which would be better? Are there many women during the week of Christmas? (I'm considering spending 2 days in NRW and 2 days near Frankfurt.) Also, I forgot the website address, could you please share the link to the German FKK forum?[/QUOTE]Hey there 15-21 Dec is definitely much better than after Christmas. Many girls go on vacation after Christmas, because there are very few customers around that time. So unless you prefer a really quiet club and don't need a lot of choice among girls, I would strongly advise going on 15-21 Dec.

Near Frankfurt, Sharks club is by far the best (and I think it's the best location in all of Germany or even all of Europe). Second is FKK Oase, Burgholzhausen. I personally only go to Sharks, because it has at least twice as many girls on most days.

Not sure if this is the forum you mean, but I think this is the most useful one:

[URL]https://www.lustscout.men/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=7[/URL]

Yes, on holidays time, Sharks should have best and biggest casting around Frankfurt. Till 20 December, in NRW, Penelope may worth for best value for money, 50/30. After 20 till January, I would only try Sixsens stuck to Aachen.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2952181]I hope that when I return, maybe in two years, the girlsAriana, Celine, Rachel, Stacy, Betty, Lola, Florina, Catelea, Kitty, and otherswill still be as beautiful and attractive as ever.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, last month when I returned, I didn't see Ariana, Celine, Stacy, Lola, Florina, Catelea, or Kitty. I only saw Rahel and Betty, but I didn't feel they are as pretty as before.

A girl named Olivia, type A bra, age 21, approached me and introduced herself. She mentioned that she previously worked in Belgium and initially seemed friendly. We agreed on a rate of 200 for one hour. However, after entering the room, her attitude changed and she became quite bossy and wanted additional charges for everything. When I asked whether kissing was included in the hourly rate, she responded rudely. I decided to end the session early. She appears to be popular with Asian customers, and I was surprised that many local German also seem willing to pay higher prices for her services.

Another girl approached me later. Her name is Shantel, 21 yo, She has flower tattoos around her chest. At first, I wasn't particularly interested, but she spoke with me for quite a while and seemed friendly, so I eventually agreed to go to a room with her. To be honest, her service was much better than Olivia's, but still not comparable to some of my previous acquaintances like Rahel. Shantel mentioned that most of her clients are Asian. I felt that she was marketing herself specifically toward Asian customers.

Ariana wasn't there. I heard she usually comes on weekends.

I met Elsa, who is around 19 years old, but unfortunately she doesn't understand English, so we couldn't communicate well.

Alba and Francisca are very pretty, but I didn't have time to spend with them. Lulu is cute and reminds me of Lola from before. Simona is a new girl who is about 180 cm tall and also quite pretty. Niomi 24 yo, should be in my list next time.

I didn't see the 19 yo dark skin Alexandra, whom Siri mentioned 1000 times.

I will visit club again in two weeks and will compile my top-ten list afterward.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;3040932]Unfortunately, last month when I returned, I didn't see Ariana, Celine, Stacy, Lola, Florina, Catelea, or Kitty. I only saw Rahel and Betty, but I didn't feel they are as pretty as before.

A girl named Olivia, type A bra, age 21, approached me and introduced herself. She mentioned that she previously worked in Belgium and initially seemed friendly. We agreed on a rate of 200 for one hour. However, after entering the room, her attitude changed and she became quite bossy and wanted additional charges for everything. When I asked whether kissing was included in the hourly rate, she responded rudely. I decided to end the session early. She appears to be popular with Asian customers, and I was surprised that many local German also seem willing to pay higher prices for her services.

Another girl approached me later. Her name is Shantel, 21 yo, She has flower tattoos around her chest. At first, I wasn't particularly interested, but she spoke with me for quite a while and seemed friendly, so I eventually agreed to go to a room with her. To be honest, her service was much better than Olivia's, but still not comparable to some of my previous acquaintances like Rahel. Shantel mentioned that most of her clients are Asian. I felt that she was marketing herself specifically toward Asian customers..[/QUOTE]Not Alexandra but Alex, but I don't advice you as a Asian, when you need to be able to drive Alex. Ariana. Sp and Rachel are still at Sharks. I'm not fully sure, but I think Lola with average face but beautiful naturals also. Elsa is not good for fucking, for me. Sharks casting quality is not at best on this end of year, many among best are missing, but even my best in 2025 club, but not the only one. I wish for some to return on 2026.

Freiburg looks like a great place to drink beer, and go for hikes. There is an FKK at the north side of town called Palast. There is also a brothel on the sound side of town called Villa Deluxe.

[URL]https://www.fkk-palast.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://villa15-deluxe.de/[/URL]

Has anyone ever been?

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3041387]Freiburg looks like a great place to drink beer, and go for hikes. There is an FKK at the north side of town called Palast. There is also a brothel on the sound side of town called Villa Deluxe.

[URL]https://www.fkk-palast.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://villa15-deluxe.de/[/URL]

Has anyone ever been?[/QUOTE]Black forest may be more interesting than brothels around. Clubs around French border, except Sarrebrucken, are not the best. 2 clubs in NL on German border should be higher quality. At YY which is quite close to ex GT Bruggen, you can feel quality, like before at Palace Frankfurt. I wait for new jacuzzis. 70/30 at YY. Can find quality for girls for 70/30 at Rom around Frankfurt and even 50/30 at Atlanta and Bahama also around.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3041445]Black forest may be more interesting than brothels around. Clubs around French border, except Sarrebrucken, are not the best. 2 clubs in NL on German border should be higher quality. At YY which is quite close to ex GT Bruggen, you can feel quality, like before at Palace Frankfurt. I wait for new jacuzzis. 70/30 at YY. Can find quality for girls for 70/30 at Rom around Frankfurt and even 50/30 at Atlanta and Bahama also around.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you mean by quality. I am from the PNW of USA. Girls here are not as attractive as ladies in other parts of the world. I would be perfectly happy with a 7 that had a good attitude and liked to please. Also, tutes are expensive here. So 100/30 would be a bargain for me. I had an amazing time at Sakura, on a Monday afternoon. The ladies were plenty hot enough for me, and the two I went with treated me really nice.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3035605]Gentleman,

I have returned from my month-long "fuck finding mission" to FKKLand. I'm talking 21 establishments over 30 days within 5 different regions of Germany. The central purpose of the mission was to conduct a survey of the FKK landscape and to report my findings, either confirming or denying the already general consensus regarding the state of affairs post-COVID, which is that things are no longer as good as they used to be. There were some highs, many lows, and lots on in betweens. My conclusion is in alignment with the majority view, which is that the FKK scene in Germany is seriously degraded from what it was pre-COVID. From my perspective, the main reason is because the optics quality of the girls and their willingness to "put out" is less than what it was pre-COVID. Prices are up while quality and service is down. For example, I never spoke to so many girls who weren't willing to do CIM. That used to be a service that virtually all the girls were willing to provide for a 50 euros upcharge. I even spoke to one princess at Oceans who refused to do BBBJs! She has to lose a lot of business because of that. Don't get me wrong. There are still plenty of girls who will do CIM. It's just that the number of girls who won't provide that service is noticeably higher. And when it came to finding a girl I liked who would do anal, that proved to be virtually impossible! Depending on the trip, pre-COVID I butt fucked anywhere from 40% to 70% of the tutes I went with. But this last time, I had a very hard time finding any girl willing to offer up the "popeka". In fact, during the month I had 9 sessions with 8 different girls, with only one of those sessions including anal sex..[/QUOTE]If your travels take you to Vancouver, check out perb. CC for review. Leolist. CC is full of scams but some gems so long as you cross reference with reviews in Perb. Lots of excellent pussy and Canadian dollar is at a huge discount compared to US / Euros. Greek widely available usually for CAD $100 extra. I just banged Jayden. She was outstanding [URL]https://www.leolist.cc/personals/female-escorts/metro-vancouver/vancouver_can_i_sit_on_it_incall-10432468[/URL] . Cheers eh. Mike.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3041562]I am not sure what you mean by quality. I am from the PNW of USA. Girls here are not as attractive as ladies in other parts of the world. I would be perfectly happy with a 7 that had a good attitude and liked to please. Also, tutes are expensive here. So 100/30 would be a bargain for me. I had an amazing time at Sakura, on a Monday afternoon. The ladies were plenty hot enough for me, and the two I went with treated me really nice.[/QUOTE]I meant about quality for behavior and sex, clubs in south of Germany close to French border are not the best, but picolo clubs. History in Basel Liestal with HH should be not more expensive and higher quality. When I was used to Russian escorts, I could never find a look to pay for at Sakura, when I missed Isabella on 2015 but good foods and beautiful design club. Coming from USA, most Romanians look pretty and 100 seem cheap, when I had top Russian beauties for 200 for nearly 1 hour with Russian GFE = fire under ice.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3041585]I meant about quality for behavior and sex, clubs in south of Germany close to French border are not the best, but picolo clubs. History in Basel Liestal with HH should be not more expensive and higher quality. When I was used to Russian escorts, I could never find a look to pay for at Sakura, when I missed Isabella on 2015 but good foods and beautiful design club. Coming from USA, most Romanians look pretty and 100 seem cheap, when I had top Russian beauties for 200 for nearly 1 hour with Russian GFE = fire under ice.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk through this with me.

Tell me more about low quality behavior. How do they behave? Do they bait and switch? Like charge for a GF upgrade but hardly kiss, or charge for OWO and only give a few sucks rather than a proper BJ? Is that was you mean by low quality behavior?

Yes, I do like the Romanian girls. I don't like inflated lips or silicone tits. However, Tattoos and piercings are actually a positive for me. The other thing I like about them. Being from the US I love the sexy Latinas. When I started traveling Europe, I immediately fell in love with the hot Slavic ladies. Those Czech girls are the most pretty people I have ever seen. To me, Romanian girls are like half sexy Latina, and half Slavic beauty. I like their olive skin, and sexy accents. I do understand some of them are scammers, but the (2) I have experience were not. They gave me amazing GFE / PSE sex 30/150 at Sakura. Great OWO and lots of tongue kisses.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3041663]To me, Romanian girls are like half sexy Latina, and half Slavic beauty. I like their olive skin, and sexy accents. I do understand some of them are scammers, but the (2) I have experience were not. They gave me amazing GFE / PSE sex 30/150 at Sakura. Great OWO and lots of tongue kisses.[/QUOTE]I like them too, including the "olive" look, but lots of Romanian girls don't look like that. There are plenty with natural blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. I know because I have been fucking them for years LOL! Sakura is a club I have not been to. How accessible is it by public transit? Seems to be in the middle of nowhere. How far from, say, Cologne? Don't know when I will go to Germany again, but if and when I do, the focus will be on going to the absolute best clubs versus like last time when my goal was to visit as many clubs as I had the time and money for, whether they be known to be good, bad, or mediocre (or even unknown with no reports here). I wouldn't need a full month like last time to do that, but I would say still at least 3 weeks. We shall see. I won't be going when it's cold though! Tired of cold, gray, windy European skies!

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3041663]Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk through this with me.

Tell me more about low quality behavior. How do they behave? Do they bait and switch? Like charge for a GF upgrade but hardly kiss, or charge for OWO and only give a few sucks rather than a proper BJ? Is that was you mean by low quality behavior?

Yes, I do like the Romanian girls. I don't like inflated lips or silicone tits. However, Tattoos and piercings are actually a positive for me. The other thing I like about them. Being from the US I love the sexy Latinas. When I started traveling Europe, I immediately fell in love with the hot Slavic ladies. Those Czech girls are the most pretty people I have ever seen. To me, Romanian girls are like half sexy Latina, and half Slavic beauty. I like their olive skin, and sexy accents. I do understand some of them are scammers, but the (2) I have experience were not. They gave me amazing GFE / PSE sex 30/150 at Sakura. Great OWO and lots of tongue kisses.[/QUOTE]Asking picolo drinks, upselling for many. I prefer to drive more kilometers for better quality. Some Romanians are real beauties and good for sex. I had some on same level than Russian escorts. For 50/30 till beginning of 2020 and also on 2021 at Sharks, even a German ex Palace.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3041666]How far from, say, Cologne?[/QUOTE]Sakura is one of the easiest to get to by public transport. But you have got your general direction wrong!

You need to go south to Stuttgart. ICE train from Frankfurt to Stuttgart can be cheap (40 euros) if booked online a month ahead, but around 80 closer to the date. And from Stuttgart a direct 25 minute S-bahn trip to Hulb, followed by short 7 minute walk. I have visited Sakura a few times; never failed to find a good room there. And it has one of the cleanest, modern, and well planned interior. Good food too. Day trip from Frankfurt to Sakura and back is quite doable.

Last time I mostly flew between cities and took lots of Ubers, but I utilized the trains quite a bit too, and I had no problems. I understand that's not the regular experience of many:

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/12/12/g-s1-100794/germany-train-rail-deutsche-bahn[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3041821]Last time I mostly flew between cities and took lots of Ubers, but I utilized the trains quite a bit too, and I had no problems. I understand that's not the regular experience of many:

[URL]https://www.npr.org/2025/12/12/g-s1-100794/germany-train-rail-deutsche-bahn[/URL][/QUOTE]I take trains between German cities all the time, and have also not encountered any problems.

But I have NOT taken trains to Berlin (too long from Frankfurt), and I do notice on the display boards that trains to Berlin are often delayed by an hour or outright cancelled. The article you quoted talks solely of her experiences with trains to Berlin, so it is not surprising.

This year, there were frequent disruptions to trains passing through Mannheim; but that is because the tracks there are being refurbished. By planning my southward journeys through Heidelberg / Stuttgart instead, I removed the risk of Mannheim disruptions. I gather that the Mannheim upgrades will be finished soon. Her complaint about delays on the train to Bern is thus not surprising as it passes through Mannheim. I avoid the Mannheim route when I go to Globe, by going via Stuttgart to enter Switzerland from the northeastern side instead of through Basel.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;3041950]I take trains between German cities all the time, and have also not encountered any problems.

But I have NOT taken trains to Berlin (too long from Frankfurt), and I do notice on the display boards that trains to Berlin are often delayed by an hour or outright cancelled. The article you quoted talks solely of her experiences with trains to Berlin, so it is not surprising.

This year, there were frequent disruptions to trains passing through Mannheim; but that is because the tracks there are being refurbished. By planning my southward journeys through Heidelberg / Stuttgart instead, I removed the risk of Mannheim disruptions. I gather that the Mannheim upgrades will be finished soon. Her complaint about delays on the train to Bern is thus not surprising as it passes through Mannheim. I avoid the Mannheim route when I go to Globe, by going via Stuttgart to enter Switzerland from the northeastern side instead of through Basel.[/QUOTE]I must have gotten lucky then because I took the train from Hamburg to Berlin no problems.

On my last trip to Europe I flew into Frankfurt and then grabbed a train to Berlin. It was supposed to be a direct ICE train. However, when I actually got on it 20 minutes late. There was now a connection in Hanover. When I got there late, I missed that connection, and had to grab a slow ass IC train for the rest of my journey. Instead of getting to Berlin at 15:08. I did not get there until about 17:00. On every trip that I had to catch a connecting train. I arrived late and missed the connection. As I plan my next trip, I am only planning on cities I can get to direct on ICE trains, with no connections. However, that plan is not fool proof.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3042140]On my last trip to Europe I flew into Frankfurt and then grabbed a train to Berlin. It was supposed to be a direct ICE train. However, when I actually got on it 20 minutes late. There was now a connection in Hanover. When I got there late, I missed that connection, and had to grab a slow ass IC train for the rest of my journey. Instead of getting to Berlin at 15:08. I did not get there until about 17:00. On every trip that I had to catch a connecting train. I arrived late and missed the connection. As I plan my next trip, I am only planning on cities I can get to direct on ICE trains, with no connections. However, that plan is not fool proof.[/QUOTE]As someone said about Mannheim, I'd like to add Stuttgart. With the delays in the massive construction there are always issues.

As to "late trains". Have you flown lately? When I add the cost and time to get from hotel to airport and then the same getting off. The time before check in etc. Anything short of 4-5 hours by train is the same as flying at 1/4 the price (or less) and you end up in the center of town.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3042155]As someone said about Mannheim, I'd like to add Stuttgart. With the delays in the massive construction there are always issues.[/QUOTE]20 years ago trains used to run on time in Germany. Maybe not same level as Switzerland, but close. Then it was decided to make Deutsche Bahn profitable, so investments were cut dramatically. Infrastructure went from OK to crap. Only 60% of the long distance trains are on time and they adjusted how they define "on time" otherwise the numbers would be worse. For example, cancelled trains because of some technical defect don't count towards punctuality statistics. The Swiss unfortunate enough to go by train in Germany say that they would have taken their halberds and pitchforks out a long time ago.

On top of the generic problems in Germany, the area around Stuttgart, especially towards south and east was impacted by the Stuttgart 21 project. After many, many years of planning, political fights, even a referendum, construction started in 2010 and was supposed to be finished in 2019. Parts of the project are finished, but the entire project is now projected to not be finished in December 2026. Cost went from 2. 6 to over 8 billion EUR.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;3042287]20 years ago trains used to run on time in Germany. Maybe not same level as Switzerland, but close. Then it was decided to make Deutsche Bahn profitable, so investments were cut dramatically. Infrastructure went from OK to crap. Only 60% of the long distance trains are on time and they adjusted how they define "on time" otherwise the numbers would be worse. For example, cancelled trains because of some technical defect don't count towards punctuality statistics. The Swiss unfortunate enough to go by train in Germany say that they would have taken their halberds and pitchforks out a long time ago.

On top of the generic problems in Germany, the area around Stuttgart, especially towards south and east was impacted by the Stuttgart 21 project. After many, many years of planning, political fights, even a referendum, construction started in 2010 and was supposed to be finished in 2019. Parts of the project are finished, but the entire project is now projected to not be finished in December 2026. Cost went from 2. 6 to over 8 billion EUR.[/QUOTE]I've had delays and cancelled trains out of STU. But when I figure being at airport 90? Minutes before the flight. 30 minutes to get there and often on a good day 60-90 minutes from the time the plane lands til I'm at my hotel it's just less stressful and often faster to take the train. And price-wise no contest. Plus I can make my plans much closer to departure with many fewer issues But the walk to get into the stuttgart station is a *****.

But when driving in Switzerland is just a nightmare leading to jail, I love so much hearing atmospheric V8 in free speed when it is at home in Germany, almost making me hard, like top beauty Cleo as soon I saw her. Unfortunately, less and less free speed and more and more who are not able to understand when you are around 150 km / h faster than them, when they think they are fast, so You must be careful about them.

I always use RMV go app to purchase tickets while I am in Frankfurt area. However, last two weeks, I tried both app on the phone and rmv englsih website from San Francisco area, it either time me out or not working on my app.

Can some local people verify that for me? I will be in Frankfurt area late next month. Sure want to know if I can use the app. If not, what is alternative app which I can purchase local train or tram tickets.

In Frankfurt or Darmstadt.

Thanks.

Dave.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;3042785]If not, what is alternative app which I can purchase local train or tram tickets. In Frankfurt or Darmstadt. [/QUOTE]The DB Navigator app?

[QUOTE=DaWong949;3042785]I always use RMV go app to purchase tickets while I am in Frankfurt area. However, last two weeks, I tried both app on the phone and rmv englsih website from San Francisco area, it either time me out or not working on my app.

Can some local people verify that for me? I will be in Frankfurt area late next month. Sure want to know if I can use the app. If not, what is alternative app which I can purchase local train or tram tickets.

In Frankfurt or Darmstadt.

Thanks.

Dave.[/QUOTE]Just back from a week in Germany and Austria including Darmstadt and Frankfurt.

I use.

CityMapper for general travel. Planning timing etc.

I use RMV (RMV go) for local transit in Frankfurt / darm.

I have Db Navigstor set up and actually have purchased a 25% discount card I use the train so much.

Berlin has BVG Vienna has theirs. Generally you can also buy day and multi day tickets at almost any ticket kiosk on the street but the app is nicer.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3043002]Just back from a week in Germany and Austria including Darmstadt and Frankfurt.

I use.

CityMapper for general travel. Planning timing etc.

I use RMV (RMV go) for local transit in Frankfurt / darm.

I have Db Navigstor set up and actually have purchased a 25% discount card I use the train so much.

Berlin has BVG Vienna has theirs. Generally you can also buy day and multi day tickets at almost any ticket kiosk on the street but the app is nicer.[/QUOTE]Really impressive for a foreigner, not even European, and same for TT and Cane to be able to travel like this. Even European, but I m not sure I would be so able, when I now don't need GPS to drive to FKKs.

Could anybody suggest some good FKK Club closer to Poland border?

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3043002]Just back from a week in Germany and Austria including Darmstadt and Frankfurt.

I use.

CityMapper for general travel. Planning timing etc.

I use RMV (RMV go) for local transit in Frankfurt / darm.

I have Db Navigstor set up and actually have purchased a 25% discount card I use the train so much.

Berlin has BVG Vienna has theirs. Generally you can also buy day and multi day tickets at almost any ticket kiosk on the street but the app is nicer.[/QUOTE]Would you know what the card is that people carry around instead of a ticket?

[QUOTE=Mikolk2002;3043106]Could anybody suggest some good FKK Club closer to Poland border?[/QUOTE]Except in Berlin and Leipzig, I don t think ex DDR is best for FKKs and same for Bayern, compare to NRW and Hessen. 50/30 are now more and more rare, but can still find good quality for this rate. Penelope, Gold, Prime, and Atlanta and Bahama around Frankfurt are for this rate. Can still find high GFE level with really pretties for maximum 100. Less good clubs, but quality still exist, still worthing the long drive.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;3043402]Would you know what the card is that people carry around instead of a ticket?[/QUOTE]They use an app. And where you go and how often determines what app / features you buy. If you are "German" you can get a Deutschland Ticket. You need a German Bank Account. Possibly any EU account works. Covers everything but ICE train. Regional trains included all the regular public transport. It does not cover the private services like the high speed train from Frankfurt airport to main train station.

It also lets you go to the immediate cities over the Austrian border "usually". At least it did when I last used it. Occasionally I buy one but for me the multi day city tickets usually work. In Frankfurt you can get a 2-3 day ticket. Vienna the week ticket costs 4 Euro more than a 3 day.

What specific area are you curious about.

BTW. I buy a 25% discount card for DB since I prefer trains over planes in Europe. I used to just rent cars and drive. But it's been decades since you could drive 250 k with all the traffic and road construction and congestion.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3043715]They use an app. And where you go and how often determines what app / features you buy. If you are "German" you can get a Deutschland Ticket. You need a German Bank Account. Possibly any EU account works. Covers everything but ICE train. Regional trains included all the regular public transport. It does not cover the private services like the high speed train from Frankfurt airport to main train station.

It also lets you go to the immediate cities over the Austrian border "usually". At least it did when I last used it. Occasionally I buy one but for me the multi day city tickets usually work. In Frankfurt you can get a 2-3 day ticket. Vienna the week ticket costs 4 Euro more than a 3 day.

What specific area are you curious about.

BTW. I buy a 25% discount card for DB since I prefer trains over planes in Europe. I used to just rent cars and drive. But it's been decades since you could drive 250 k with all the traffic and road construction and congestion.[/QUOTE]Most of my trips have been around Frankfurt. I use CITYMAPPER based on one of your previous recommendations so thank you. I tried getting a multi day ticket on my last trip and the machine at the train station requested a card of some kind. I also saw someone with a card instead of a ticket. But, you explained it nicely.

[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;3043735]Most of my trips have been around Frankfurt. I use CITYMAPPER based on one of your previous recommendations so thank you. I tried getting a multi day ticket on my last trip and the machine at the train station requested a card of some kind. I also saw someone with a card instead of a ticket. But, you explained it nicely.[/QUOTE]I don't know about a card? Unless it's their "handicapped or old age card" There are a few of these cards that are required for special fares- not the card but the number on the card. GENERALLY now it's all been moved to digital wallets.

Go with RMV or DBgo, and avoid the station. BUT if you need to use the station, look for the DB security guys standing around, I've had them help me when the machine was acting up. Also as long as you are traveling around load the FREE NOW app on your phone, it works in some locations that UBER doesn't, it's LYFt for Germany- basically you get a formal taxi with fixed price so you don't have to worry about getting higher fares in traffic. If you are doing more than one city at a time, for a week or more, DM me for more ideas.