Medellin Reports

I took the metro and metro cable to parque Arvii for the first time. I went to Estadio station which is a five minute walk from my hotel. At some point by estacion San Antonio or San Jose, I do not remember which saint I have to go out to take the other line. I continued to estacion Acevedo where the metro cable is. I went in to the funicular up the mountain over the poor comunas. Somebody advised me not to stop inside Arvii park because it is near a dangerous area so I took the funicular with half a dozen Pablo Escobar gun men look alike inside it.

Once at the top of the mountain my metro car get empty to be refilled again with college students and working people. There was a pretty college girl and another woman on her mid 30,s with an outstanding body with big natural looking butts. Her dress shows how great her body is. We went out to take the train back home. When I get down the stairs to wait for the train I saw that hot lady again and asked her about how the get back to Estadio Station. She offered to lead me during the trip and we entered the train and we stood up together because all seats were taken. Behind her there was a pretty young college student that was staring at me. I notice it and looked at her, she is very pretty. The lady noticed that I was looking to somebody else and make an 180 to look who is behind her. We keep talking and I get her phone number. I left the train by whatever saint station to take the one to Estadio. Guess what, the pretty college girl went out with me to take the same train. On the line to wait for the next train she asked if She was prettier than the lady I was talking to. Long story short I got her phone number too and we have a date for after school today and a date with the other lady tomorrow. I am still smiling!

Why not buy some Internet service from Claro / Tigo etc? You can be online 24/7 in the Botero hotel and anywhere else you are going to be? You would need a phone or other device you can put in "mobile hotspot" mode.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2139592]The most important thing for me is wifi and I think at hotel Botero it is iffy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KainNYC;2138283]Message me, if you need a translator, wingman, etc.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the offer.

Don't think I can message you. Just got on here.

If you would, just reply to this on the forum and let me know the best way to link up more directly. If joining is the only way, just let me know that.

Thanks.

Nice work Boricua. Are you going to check out Energy. It's near your hotel. Keep us up to date.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2139734]I took the metro and metro cable to parque Arvii for the first time. I went to Estadio station which is a five minute walk from my hotel. At some point by estacion San Antonio or San Jose, I do not remember which saint I have to go out to take the other line. I continued to estacion Acevedo where the metro cable is. I went in to the funicular up the mountain over the poor comunas. Somebody advised me not to stop inside Arvii park because it is near a dangerous area so I took the funicular with half a dozen Pablo Escobar gun men look alike inside it.

Once at the top of the mountain my metro car get empty to be refilled again with college students and working people. There was a pretty college girl and another woman on her mid 30,s with an outstanding body with big natural looking butts. Her dress shows how great her body is. We went out to take the train back home. When I get down the stairs to wait for the train I saw that hot lady again and asked her about how the get back to Estadio Station.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2139734]I took the metro and metro cable to parque Arvii for the first time. I went to Estadio station which is a five minute walk from my hotel. At some point by estacion San Antonio or San Jose, I do not remember which saint I have to go out to take the other line. I continued to estacion Acevedo where the metro cable is. I went in to the funicular up the mountain over the poor comunas. Somebody advised me not to stop inside Arvii park because it is near a dangerous area so I took the funicular with half a dozen Pablo Escobar gun men look alike inside it.

Once at the top of the mountain my metro car get empty to be refilled again with college students and working people. There was a pretty college girl and another woman on her mid 30,s with an outstanding body with big natural looking butts. Her dress shows how great her body is. We went out to take the train back home. When I get down the stairs to wait for the train I saw that hot lady again and asked her about how the get back to Estadio Station. She offered to lead me during the trip and we entered the train and we stood up together because all seats were taken. Behind her there was a pretty young college student that was staring at me. I notice it and looked at her, she is very pretty. The lady noticed that I was looking to somebody else and make an 180 to look who is behind her. We keep talking and I get her phone number. I left the train by whatever saint station to take the one to Estadio. Guess what, the pretty college girl went out with me to take the same train. On the line to wait for the next train she asked if She was prettier than the lady I was talking to. Long story short I got her phone number too and we have a date for after school today and a date with the other lady tomorrow. I am still smiling![/QUOTE]Awesome!! This is the POWER of Social Proof.

It reminds me of that Chris Rock joke.

Men "I got to get me a girl like THAT".

Women "I got to get HIM!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOUnwfD1dQ[/URL]

Yeah I saw Louisa down there. I almost mentioned it since I saw you posted about her. We closed barra executive so no time to see the others that night. Haven't got to spend as much time in Centro yet this time. Hopefully remedy that next week.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2139353]If you wait long enough girls tend to show up for work all thru the night at BarraEjectiva.

While at BarraEjectiva it is usually worth at least peeking in next door at Maracaibo and walking the 3 blocks to Conejitas.

Yeah VeraCruz can be very hit or miss, I'd say I see something I like about 1/3 of the time, but I enjoy strolling through there anyway.

Did you see the semi-blonde Sarah or the ultra-spinner Luisa? (girl on the left in this photo).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2139734]I took the metro and metro cable to parque Arvii for the first time. I went to Estadio station which is a five minute walk from my hotel. At some point by estacion San Antonio or San Jose, I do not remember which saint I have to go out to take the other line. I continued to estacion Acevedo where the metro cable is. I went in to the funicular up the mountain over the poor comunas. Somebody advised me not to stop inside Arvii park because it is near a dangerous area so I took the funicular with half a dozen Pablo Escobar gun men look alike inside it.

Once at the top of the mountain my metro car get empty to be refilled again with college students and working people. There was a pretty college girl and another woman on her mid 30,s with an outstanding body with big natural looking butts. Her dress shows how great her body is. We went out to take the train back home. When I get down the stairs to wait for the train I saw that hot lady again and asked her about how the get back to Estadio Station. She offered to lead me during the trip and we entered the train and we stood up together because all seats were taken. Behind her there was a pretty young college student that was staring at me. I notice it and looked at her, she is very pretty. The lady noticed that I was looking to somebody else and make an 180 to look who is behind her. We keep talking and I get her phone number. I left the train by whatever saint station to take the one to Estadio. Guess what, the pretty college girl went out with me to take the same train. On the line to wait for the next train she asked if She was prettier than the lady I was talking to. Long story short I got her phone number too and we have a date for after school today and a date with the other lady tomorrow. I am still smiling![/QUOTE]You're not to far away from me. The metro station where you switch trains is San Antonio. The other end of the be line, which runs out to Laureles, is San Javier station. There's another metrocable there with a nice area to sit and enjoy the views. Also at the San Antonio station you can catch the Tranvia, which will take you to another metrocable. Nothing up there, except for a good view.

Someone gave you some confused information on the Metrocable to Parque Arvi, although it sounds like it worked to your advantage. At Acevedo station you take the metrocable up to Santo Domingo. At Santo Domingo you switch to the second metrocable that takes you to Parque Arvi. Parque Arvi is no problem to get out and walk around. Pretty area a few places to eat or grab a beer, nature trails. However, at the Santo Domingo station it's probably not a good idea to get out and walk around.

What is the address for the Map?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2139362]To be in the center of the more affordable action you would stay in El Centro (aka La Candelaria) Stay on the main busy roads in the day and take cabs at night. In the day dress like headed to Home Depot.

Cheaper Strip Club-wise my fav 3 in Centro are Conejitas (Playmates) at Calle 53 #51-41 and about 3 blocks away Barra Ejectiva at Calle 53 #48-20 and right next door, not as busy but worth looking in sometimes Maracaibo at Calle 53 #49-30. I have a downtown map I made for my own use I can email you if you PM me a email address. It has most the Centro strip club / Casa's and Redlight Blocks marked on it. I stay at the hotel Botero due to it's location right between those 3 strip clubs and right across from Casa Yakuza which is open till from 10 ish AM to like 3 to 4 AM-ish. They allow takeout no extra fee to the Botero for 45 k a 1/2 HR. Not always cuties there but sometimes. It's behind a mirrored door just left of Hotel Deseos.

It's "Botero Medellin" on [URL]Hotels.com[/URL], $26 a night, book a room for 2, 15 stories, bar with great view and steam room / saunas on roof, mini-fridge in room (if not, ask for one) walk in shower, hot water, 42" flat-screen. (Botero should start giving me a commission. LOL) Ask for a floor on the highest floor available for view and noise reduction, west side building better.

The airport buses end up on that block which is convenient.

Casa wise I would start at New Life and work my way down the list.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2139782]What is the address for the Map?[/QUOTE]Cra50 a#53-38.

Directly next to Hotel Deseos, behind the mirrored door, literally open till like 4 am on weekends, opens 10 am ish, 45 k 1/2 HR.

Yakuza address is: Carrera 50 A #53-38.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2139782]What is the address for the Map?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2139770] We closed barra executive so no time to see the others that night. Haven't got to spend as much time in Centro yet this time. Hopefully remedy that next week.[/QUOTE]I like the room I've been in at Conejitas (end of the hall, tile floor, clean, shower, fan, cool, nicely lit. The one right behind the bar at Maracaibo is very small, but had a fan, wasn't hot.

But Barra Ejectiva I did not like, the room was too dark and too hot. I usually do take out from the 3 clubs anyway.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2139734]I took the metro and metro cable to parque Arvii for the first time. I went to Estadio station which is a five minute walk from my hotel. At some point by estacion San Antonio or San Jose, I do not remember which saint I have to go out to take the other line. I continued to estacion Acevedo where the metro cable is. I went in to the funicular up the mountain over the poor comunas. Somebody advised me not to stop inside Arvii park because it is near a dangerous area so I took the funicular with half a dozen Pablo Escobar gun men look alike inside it.

Once at the top of the mountain my metro car get empty to be refilled again with college students and working people. There was a pretty college girl and another woman on her mid 30,s with an outstanding body with big natural looking butts. Her dress shows how great her body is. We went out to take the train back home. When I get down the stairs to wait for the train I saw that hot lady again and asked her about how the get back to Estadio Station. She offered to lead me during the trip and we entered the train and we stood up together because all seats were taken. Behind her there was a pretty young college student that was staring at me. I notice it and looked at her, she is very pretty. The lady noticed that I was looking to somebody else and make an 180 to look who is behind her. We keep talking and I get her phone number. I left the train by whatever saint station to take the one to Estadio. Guess what, the pretty college girl went out with me to take the same train. On the line to wait for the next train she asked if She was prettier than the lady I was talking to. Long story short I got her phone number too and we have a date for after school today and a date with the other lady tomorrow. I am still smiling![/QUOTE]Cool story! I believe it, every word, nothing better than two Paisa's in competition for the same guy. Good job! Tell us how the date panned out.

TTM.

Thanks Wolf / Balboa / Sean.

That's the info I needed. Love those down and dirty strip clubs to while a way some time. I was in Medellin a few years ago. But too long ago to remember where I had been. I think I was in Fase Dos. Or at least, was in some Strip Club that was well expensive. Also hit up a few centro clubs and casas.

I've booked a room at Hotel International. It's 5 minutes walk away from those spots. Won't be as convenient as the Hotel you mentioned but good quality internet is important to me. I guess I'll forego the take-out option. Have just booked it for one night. Just to see what it's like. Can always move if I need to. It looks like it's close to Mansion which I thought was in another area of the city. Maybe I'll check that out. Can you bring your own take out to Mansion or can you only use services on site?

Have over 11 months worth of travelling left. Who knows. Maybe I'll end up spending more time in Colombia and Medellin.

Anyone ever get with a chica on the premise of learning Spanish? I'd like learn Spanish (beyond the pidgeon Spanish I have right now) but have been told the Spanish schools are expensive (and that it would be much cheaper in Equador once I get there). Just thought there might be an opportunity to set up a deal that would work out as a win / win. Maybe with a bit of lovin' thrown in. I just want to spend time speaking the language. Have done more organised classes in the past.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140128]Thanks Wolf / Balboa / Sean.

That's the info I needed. Love those down and dirty strip clubs to while a way some time. I was in Medellin a few years ago. But too long ago to remember where I had been. I think I was in Fase Dos. Or at least, was in some Strip Club that was well expensive. Also hit up a few centro clubs and casas.

I've booked a room at Hotel International. It's 5 minutes walk away from those spots. Won't be as convenient as the Hotel you mentioned but good quality internet is important to me. I guess I'll forego the take-out option. Have just booked it for one night. Just to see what it's like. Can always move if I need to. It looks like it's close to Mansion which I thought was in another area of the city. Maybe I'll check that out. Can you bring your own take out to Mansion or can you only use services on site?

Have over 11 months worth of travelling left. Who knows. Maybe I'll end up spending more time in Colombia and Medellin.

Anyone ever get with a chica on the premise of learning Spanish? I'd like learn Spanish (beyond the pidgeon Spanish I have right now) but have been told the Spanish schools are expensive (and that it would be much cheaper in Equador once I get there). Just thought there might be an opportunity to set up a deal that would work out as a win / win. Maybe with a bit of lovin' thrown in. I just want to spend time speaking the language. Have done more organised classes in the past.[/QUOTE]There is a place called Hotel Mansion close to Hotel International, but that's not the place known as "The Mansion. " It's a little dive fleabag where rooms are about 25 k per night. It might be a place to stay if you have nothing worth stealing and don't mind losing a kidney.

The Mansion is just off Milla de Oro in Poblado. You can bring in any girl provided she has a cedula and hasn't been banned from The Mansion.

I arrived to Medellin last Tuesday / Wednesday after midnight and I am in hotel Dorado la 70, Laureles. Queen bed, high speed wifi, 40 inch tv, private bath air conditioner and fan. No in room safe. The room maid is pretty and fun. I paid 70 k for a taxi. Now I am retiring money at Colcolombia ATM because Bancolombia is charging a 12 k fee.

Exito and Jumbo have been my grocery suppliers. Cartel de Cali founded La Rebaja drugstore has been my blue pill supplier. Last week I contacted a girl that contrary to other Tinder girls do not define herself as a "scort". She lives in Bello, 19 with a baby and lives with parents. She has great legs and ass with a little darker skin color than usual in Medellin. Small be tits. She sends me whatsapp video camera a few times and is a pretty girl who loves to flirt. It was all nice until the night before my trip. That night the sad story comes. Her baby is lacking goods that casually costs exactly 200 k pesos. Anyway, I did not meet her the first night. The first night I dated a girl I met on my last trip. We went to the giratory Tony Romas from Dan Carlton Poblado hotel. Outstanding panoramic view from around the city and their menu is a lot different than any other Tony Romas. Not bad paying $13 for a juicy steak. Sangria is good and a carafe that refilled our glasses 3 times just cost the equivalent of $7 US.

Back to the Tinder lady I finally met her on Friday. She requested me to meet at Trip or 3 D hotel behind Estadio station. I was curious why there and not at the Estadio station. Doing my analysis I reached to the conclusion that she wanted to rent a room at 3 D or Thematic Suites which are two highly rated short term motels with themathic rooms, moving and vibrating beds, pole dance, jacuzzi and other amenities. But I was wrong, it was because her 2,200 pesos bus from Bello stops there. I picked her and we went to eat at Carrera 70, my steak with fries and salad plus her chicken sandwich a soda and water cost 28 k. We had a conversation and after a few minutes she was confortable enough with me so instead of her leaving in an hour to pick her baby at the day care center she called her cousin to have him picking her baby. I invited her to my room but contrary to expected we go up without register her at the lobby. Perhaps it was because lobby people was busy with a lot of customers. We went up to my room and seated on the sofa. We had a little chat, she was playing to be a hard to conquer girl, I was seducing her. At some point we began kissing and suddenly she said to me: "please do not kiss me on the neck because things can happen". Guess what. I began to kiss her neck, she tried to avoid until she finally surrendered. She moaned softly, I kissed her small tits with hard nipples and moved her to the bed.

She said she has to go, but I told her her cousin picked her baby. At a point she asked me not to perform oral on her because she is ashamed of her large pussy lips. I licked it anyway, I told her I like them large. So I gave her oral until she finished, she was very wet. She did the same to me, bareback too until we had sex in different positions. We had a shower together, we spent over 4 hours together. I walked with her to the bus station but my legs were weak, that girl depleted all my energy. I just paid her 2,200 pesos for the bus as she requested, this is a story in progress. At some time she is going to ask for her "payment ".

I visited Centro yesterday for the first time. Traffic was heavy at 4:00 pm. Saturday. Thousands of people were there walking, including evident tourists at Plaza Botero taking pictures, some talking to the police about how nice it was going to the soccer finals the night before. I walked around and see a building that from outside looks like a church but It was a mall. I walked a lot until I went under the metro line. I went back to a church not far from Botero and see the first evident street girls. It was a surreal scene. There were any kind of girls, automatic and standard. Lot of uglies. Based on her looks the probably are the consumers of 95% of the drug produced in Medellin. Girls range from 10 years to 60 and I am not lying. The prettiest girl I saw talked to me and has a harder voice than most men. Lots of trannies in that area behind the church, I later learned it was Carrera 53 between calle 51 and 52. I spent an hour there then went back to my hotel to date the college girl I met in the metro.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2140183]At a point she asked me not to perform oral on her because she is ashamed of her large pussy lips. I licked it anyway, I told her I like them large.[/QUOTE]This is the shit that kills me about women. They know nothing about men. They assume that all men like the same thing and only that one thing. They do not realize there is a pot for every lid. So instead of trying to change yourself into being something that you are not, just be yourself and wait for someone to come along that likes the way you are.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140200]This is the shit that kills me about women. They know nothing about men. They assume that all men like the same thing and only that one thing. They do not realize there is a pot for every lid. So instead of trying to change yourself into being something that you are not, just be yourself and wait for someone to come along that likes the way you are.[/QUOTE]I like that a lot. She ranked second about it only surpassed by Freiny for Casa Azul in Santo Domingo.

I met Adriana from Locanto classified ads. She asked for $100 k. She send me nudes by whatsapp without showing her face. She has a nice body based on the pictures. No face pic even after I requested it twice. She claim to have 28 yrs. She came to my hotel last Friday. Reception called and asked if I wanted Adriana to come and I said ok. She went up. She was pettite. I mean, very pettite. VERY. On caps. She should be around 4'0. I also see why she do not show her face. Although she has a well maintained body she should be around 40 yrs. She was nice but have a strange behavior, not dangerous but strange. We did almost everything and can rate her good. She even gave me a bonus massage because I was nice to her she spent more than the agreed hour and also gave me a bath with a bonus BJ. She has it almost in front on her face anyway, LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2140203]I like that a lot. She ranked second about it only surpassed by Freiny for Casa Azul in Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]B.O., good to see you finally made it to Medallo! I still haven't been to Santo Domingo just yet. What are your thoughts so far in comparing the two places? SD always sounded like a tough nut to crack, but you always made it work for you.

Damn these girls are charging more and more for BBBJ. I use to not even ask and it usually happened. But damn one wanted 50 k more for BBBJ yesterday. She was only 90 k for the hour to begin with. Photoprepago girl. Next it will be 20 k for the top off.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2140189]I visited Centro yesterday for the first time. Traffic was heavy at 4:00 pm. Saturday. Thousands of people were there walking, including evident tourists at Plaza Botero taking pictures, some talking to the police about how nice it was going to the soccer finals the night before. I walked around and see a building that from outside looks like a church but It was a mall. I walked a lot until I went under the metro line. I went back to a church not far from Botero and see the first evident street girls. It was a surreal scene. There were any kind of girls, automatic and standard. Lot of uglies. Based on her looks the probably are the consumers of 95% of the drug produced in Medellin. Girls range from 10 years to 60 and I am not lying. The prettiest girl I saw talked to me and has a harder voice than most men. Lots of trannies in that area behind the church, I later learned it was Carrera 53 between calle 51 and 52. I spent an hour there then went back to my hotel to date the college girl I met in the metro.[/QUOTE]Wow. Going to have to disagree with most of that. I have spend around 20 days in Centro with 2 to 3 visits a day to the Veracruz block so that is 40 to 60 times I have been through there in the last year. Most (like 4 to 6) of the trannies are up front to the left of the entrance to the church. (most of them hang over by Parque Bolivar) The drug addicts (mostly glue huffers) also stay up front by the fountains. I have NEVER seen a girl who wouldn't pass for between 18 and 40 ish. Cops are through that area quite frequently and would no way let a 10 yo be a prostitute.

I am unfortunately well acquainted with what meth-heads, crack-heads and opiate addicts look and act like here in the US. Have never seen anything close behind the church. I have been with 6+ women from behind the church, weed or beer is all they want, if that.

I've always used ATM's in MDE. However a guy told me recently he got 2750 in cash exchange and only 2400 in ATM's for US $. Is this true or did he use the wrong ATM? Claims he used a couple different ones. I usually use the Schwab card in Banccolombia or CITI ATM's.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2140444]I've always used ATM's in MDE. However a guy told me recently he got 2750 in cash exchange and only 2400 in ATM's for US $. Is this true or did he use the wrong ATM? Claims he used a couple different ones. I usually use the Schwab card in Banccolombia or CITI ATM's.[/QUOTE]It depends on his bank. Some banks charge a service fee, plus a foreign transaction fee, plus any fees charged by the ATM. If he was doing small transactions it could cut his exchange rate down that much.

Been having a great time with this sweet little beauty. Has been my favorite in Medellin so far. If any of you would like her contact info let me know. Hopefully you'll trade me a gems info too. I do have permission to post her picture. Unsure if I can post a number but I'll give it to you in pm. No upsale charges either. 120k.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2140444]I've always used ATM's in MDE. However a guy told me recently he got 2750 in cash exchange and only 2400 in ATM's for US $. Is this true or did he use the wrong ATM? Claims he used a couple different ones. I usually use the Schwab card in Banccolombia or CITI ATM's.[/QUOTE]I just got 2809.68 per USA Dollar at the citibank ATM in centro on the walking street carr 49 south of call 43. Plus any rebate for fees at EOM from schwabb.

2nd floor next to Mcdonalds. The machine on the right had english prompts.

There is a guard that posts up there during the day. You can bring the ATM receipt into the branch Citibank right next to it and the teller will break down your 50's.

I tried to use both the ATM's at the Nutibara hotel first same day and both machines rejected me. Tried a lower amount, nada. One said to call my bank. Checked my activity and there was a reversal. Could be I did something wrong, whatever.

Got in to MDE this afternoon. Bus from the airport to San Diego Mall and a Taxi in to El Centro / La Candelaria. It looks like the bus doesn't go any further than San Diego Mall anymore. I've gone budget hotel wise. It's clean, it's safe, broadband is good. But there's always a few niggly things when you go budget. A hard bed, a cramped en-suite. Just booked it for the night. Might have a look at a couple in the morning and see if I can fare any better.

I dropped in to Connejitas, Barra Ejecutiva & Maracaibo (and I think there were a couple of others I wandered in to but didn't stay). They were all pretty dead. I guess it's Monday afternoon so can't expect much. I walked down past Connejitas for a couple of blocks. Came across some girls on the street side. Didn't really do anything for me. Double backed and veered to the right (parallel with plaza bolero) . Came across a street where there were more girls. I have to say. Felt a bit uncomfortable as they all looked far too young on that particular street. Moved away from there.

The area doesn't intimidate me too much. There's a hell of a lot going on - with people milling around in all directions. However, I'm sure that will all change as the darkness descends. Will dip my toe in the water a bit later on and gauge safety levels.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140529]Got in to MDE this afternoon. Bus from the airport to San Diego Mall and a Taxi in to El Centro / La Candelaria. It looks like the bus doesn't go any further than San Diego Mall anymore.[/QUOTE]Bus has 2 routes, the "autopista" route to Centro and the San Diego route.

I agree! So many chicas basically apologize for their small tits and small ass. They tell me how much they want implants. I try to tell them that guys like me like the flacas and are not into the silicone. But I guess they think I'm just being nice. Same with the size and shape of their pussy. Unbelievable. Of course, chicas like Yisela Restrepo seem to only encourage some of these girls. Once she got her fake ass and fake tits, it seemed like her business increased substantially (but not from me). I am perfectly happy with smaller tits, as long as the nipples are nice. And as long as the ass is tight, it doesn't have to be big. Ahhh. Paisas.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140200]This is the shit that kills me about women. They know nothing about men. They assume that all men like the same thing and only that one thing. They do not realize there is a pot for every lid. So instead of trying to change yourself into being something that you are not, just be yourself and wait for someone to come along that likes the way you are.[/QUOTE]

Change hotels quick while you still can! LOL!

Great post Boricua, I'm enjoying following your trip.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2140183]I arrived to Medellin last Tuesday / Wednesday after midnight and I am in hotel Dorado la 70, Laureles. Queen bed, high speed wifi, 40 inch tv, private bath air conditioner and fan. No in room safe. The room maid is pretty and fun. I paid 70 k for a taxi. Now I am retiring money at Colcolombia ATM because Bancolombia is charging a 12 k fee.

Exito and Jumbo have been my grocery suppliers. Cartel de Cali founded La Rebaja drugstore has been my blue pill supplier. Last week I contacted a girl that contrary to other Tinder girls do not define herself as a "scort". She lives in Bello, 19 with a baby and lives with parents. She has great legs and ass with a little darker skin color than usual in Medellin. Small be tits. She sends me whatsapp video camera a few times and is a pretty girl who loves to flirt. It was all nice until the night before my trip. That night the sad story comes. Her baby is lacking goods that casually costs exactly 200 k pesos. Anyway, I did not meet her the first night. The first night I dated a girl I met on my last trip. We went to the giratory Tony Romas from Dan Carlton Poblado hotel. Outstanding panoramic view from around the city and their menu is a lot different than any other Tony Romas. Not bad paying $13 for a juicy steak. Sangria is good and a carafe that refilled our glasses 3 times just cost the equivalent of $7 US..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140529]Got in to MDE this afternoon. Bus from the airport to San Diego Mall and a Taxi in to El Centro / La Candelaria. It looks like the bus doesn't go any further than San Diego Mall anymore..[/QUOTE]If you want the bus back walk / cab to the block behind the hotel Nutribara which is across from Plaza Botero. I think they start at like 4 am-ish but not positive but they do start early. Budget some extra time just in case, figure 1 HR on the bus and I spent 45 min in the American Airlines line and then security flagged me for a visit to the back room ride-through X-ray machine, I got there 1 HR & 1/2 early and just made my flight.

There are two bus routes from the airport. One ends at San Diego, the other ends behind the Nutibara in Centro. You took the wrong one. Next time tell the dispatcher you want Centro. Just say "Centro" over and over again, you don't need to speak Spanish but you do need to know where you want to go.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140529]Got in to MDE this afternoon. Bus from the airport to San Diego Mall and a Taxi in to El Centro / La Candelaria. It looks like the bus doesn't go any further than San Diego Mall anymore. I've gone budget hotel wise. It's clean, it's safe, broadband is good. But there's always a few niggly things when you go budget. A hard bed, a cramped en-suite. Just booked it for the night. Might have a look at a couple in the morning and see if I can fare any better.

I dropped in to Connejitas, Barra Ejecutiva & Maracaibo (and I think there were a couple of others I wandered in to but didn't stay). They were all pretty dead. I guess it's Monday afternoon so can't expect much. I walked down past Connejitas for a couple of blocks. Came across some girls on the street side. Didn't really do anything for me. Double backed and veered to the right (parallel with plaza bolero) . Came across a street where there were more girls. I have to say. Felt a bit uncomfortable as they all looked far too young on that particular street. Moved away from there.

The area doesn't intimidate me too much. There's a hell of a lot going on - with people milling around in all directions. However, I'm sure that will all change as the darkness descends. Will dip my toe in the water a bit later on and gauge safety levels.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2140481]Been having a great time with this sweet little beauty. Has been my favorite in Medellin so far. If any of you would like her contact info let me know. Hopefully you'll trade me a gems info too. I do have permission to post her picture. Unsure if I can post a number but I'll give it to you in pm. No upsale charges either. 120k.[/QUOTE]Hey PaisaPorFavor,

I am headed to Medellin on Wednesday. She looks very nice. Can you please send me her contact info. Thank you, sir.

DC Hammer.

Hello,

I'll be taking my first trip to Medellin in March ill be renting an airbnb can someone recommend me an area that's close to a lot of the action thank you.

[QUOTE=Crisis129;2140792]Hello,

I'll be taking my first trip to Medellin in March ill be renting an airbnb can someone recommend me an area that's close to a lot of the action thank you.[/QUOTE]Crisis,

Try to get one within walking distance to Lleras. I have used AirBnb in these areas: Provenza, Vizcaya, and LOS Lomas. Plenty of bars and restaurants close by. You didn't mention what "action" you want to be close to. If you want low price casas; you will need to go to Centro. But this is your first trip; so I would stay in Poblado. You can always take a taxi to Centro.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140529]Got in to MDE this afternoon. Bus from the airport to San Diego Mall and a Taxi in to El Centro / La Candelaria. It looks like the bus doesn't go any further than San Diego Mall anymore. I've gone budget hotel wise. It's clean, it's safe, broadband is good. But there's always a few niggly things when you go budget. A hard bed, a cramped en-suite. Just booked it for the night. Might have a look at a couple in the morning and see if I can fare any better.

I dropped in to Connejitas, Barra Ejecutiva & Maracaibo (and I think there were a couple of others I wandered in to but didn't stay). They were all pretty dead. I guess it's Monday afternoon so can't expect much. I walked down past Connejitas for a couple of blocks. Came across some girls on the street side. Didn't really do anything for me. Double backed and veered to the right (parallel with plaza bolero) . Came across a street where there were more girls. I have to say. Felt a bit uncomfortable as they all looked far too young on that particular street. Moved away from there.

The area doesn't intimidate me too much. There's a hell of a lot going on - with people milling around in all directions. However, I'm sure that will all change as the darkness descends. Will dip my toe in the water a bit later on and gauge safety levels.[/QUOTE]Yes I don't suggest that you venture these areas at night, certainly never alone and if you must then move / walk quickly and purposely through the area as if you know where your going.

And please remember that even if there are many people around, be it during daytime or night, shit still happens, they will not do anything to help or aid you, this includes shop owners and people right around your vicinity, you are on your own and shit can, will and does happen very fast.

TTM.

So I rolled into MDE late Sunday night and took the bus straight to Hotel Botero based on Wolfs many suggestions =). My initial plan was to just hit yakuza, but another ISG member messaged me they were at Barra Ejectiva. Walked over at 1 am (not advised) and met up with PaisasPorFavor and Kain. I'm extremely grateful for them being there to show me the ropes and help with translating. I feel like basic Spanish is almost a must here. Even on a slow night it was basically chica overload for me. So many smoking hot girls that just walk over to and rub their tits in your face for the equivalent of $0. 70. Never been in a scene even remotely like it. My thought process was "OMG what do I do with my hands" and the correct answer was to put them on the strippers. Ended up hooking up with an enhanced girl named Dulce. First time being with a girl with a fake ass. Definitely something to try but I think I prefer natural in that department. 2 hours for 200 k and was a total GFE. DFK, BBBJ, and cuddling and joking around in my very broken Spanish. Great start.

Next day did an early lap of Vera Cruz. Not much talent on a Monday morning plus I knew Spanish wasn't up to par for that scene. Meet up with board members for lunch, then hit Energy to check out the line up. Chick I chose was a 9, but service was mechanical. LOL the "massage" portion wouldn't even qualify for that at an AMP back home. Other member also said he had a mediocre time. Surprising considering how highly rated the place is.

After that was hotel transfer to the mansion. Word of caution. Google maps drops you in the wrong spot if you just put in their address. Went to the bar downstairs and there were like 8 chicas and no dudes. Chatted them up, bought a few drinks, and ended up pulling out a flaquita. She wasn't the hottest one there by a decent margin, but had the best connection with her and it was a nice change of pace from the usual curvy girls I'm into. Paid off too, was the best sex so far.

After that hit face dos, but surprisingly it was really slow. Did find a girl I liked there, but my peso supply was running low. They accept CC surprisingly, but it was 190 k cash price but 230 k CC. I thought that was pretty ridiculous upcharge so I passed. A mans got to have principles. A lot of classic beauty types there, avg hotness rating a solid 8. 5. Had to get up early so I called it around 1:00.

Right now getting some actual business taken care of. 4 girls by the pool. I think a large part of my brain is still in denial that I can just walk over and pull any of them up to my room.

As for non-mongering I really enjoyed walking around el centro during the day and parque botera. Lots of people watching and nothing is white washed like in the nicer areas of towns.

[QUOTE=Crisis129;2140792]Hello,

I'll be taking my first trip to Medellin in March ill be renting an airbnb can someone recommend me an area that's close to a lot of the action thank you.[/QUOTE]Which action are you looking for? The cheap strip club action, the casa action and the streetwalker action is all in El Centro. The most popular place, for tourists, for better dining and nightclubs is in El Poblado around Parque Lleras. The action from the different online sources can be anywhere in the city.

Of course, you're probably not going to want to walk all over El Centro, especially at night. Since taxis are cheap, you should probably stay somewhere around Parque Lleras.

@ Knowledge: I asked the bus driver if the bus was going to Hotel Nutibara / El Centro - and he just said no, only to San Diego Mall. I don't know why he didn't tell me to take the next bus (if like you say, some of them go to El Centro and some don't). I'm not that put out. The taxi ride was useful in orientating myself to the city, cost peanuts and didn't take too long despite the traffic.

I went back later last night to Connejitas & Maracaibo. Had a few beers in the former whilst watching the talent. Got together with 'Sandra' in Maracaibo for half an hour. It was ok. Nothing to write home about (but then given the pricing, don't really have to care too much). Went to New Life this morning. This was the best experience yet. It was nice to take a nice clean girl in a nice clean environment. I think that's going to be on the agenda tomorrow morning also.

I'm slumming it down here. I know that's not the way to do it for many of you. But I like things gritty and to experience the city this way. I decided to stay on at this hotel. At least for another 2 days more anyways. They had included breakfast which I nearly passed up on - as given the price for the room, I assumed it would be terrible. It was excellent (proportionate to what I'm paying). Broadband is better than any of the places I stayed at in Panama (which I just left). No windows in the room, hard bed and cramped en-suite. But central, safe and clean at 49 k / night.

I scoped out the city on foot this morning / early afternoon. When I had enough, I got the metro back to El Centro. Then went to CL. 53/ Cra. 54 - where there's a bit of street action. Set myself up with a beer and watched the world go by. Met a couple of characters.

I don't doubt that I still have to be careful down here but I'm a lot less intimidated than I felt when I first arrived.


ps. if anyone wants to update the list, it's 5k/beer in Connejitas & 9k in Maracaibo. 1/2 hour in New Life was 50k

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2140850]......And please remember that even if there are many people around, be it during daytime or night, shit still happens, they will not do anything to help or aid you, this includes shop owners and people right around your vicinity, you are on your own and shit can, will and does happen very fast.TTM.[/QUOTE]I remember it was close to Christmas 2016 I was walking through El Centro with phone in hand amidst a throng of shoppers and 2 guys tried to grab my phone. I held on to it and kept looking for weapons which, if produced, I would have let go the phone; however, none were proffered so I shouted loudly in English and moved my hands violently whereupon they relinquished their grip and walked off. This got barely a glance from a couple of people nearby. I kid you not.

You did great, better than a lot of us who are regular visitors. Respect to you for liking it down and dirty. As for the bus thing, you will find it easier getting on one behind the Nutibara. I'm looking forward to reading about the rest of your adventures.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2140889]@ Knowledge: I asked the bus driver if the bus was going to Hotel Nutibara / El Centro - and he just said no, only to San Diego Mall. I don't know why he didn't tell me to take the next bus (if like you say, some of them go to El Centro and some don't). I'm not that put out. The taxi ride was useful in orientating myself to the city, cost peanuts and didn't take too long despite the traffic.

I went back later last night to Connejitas & Maracaibo. Had a few beers in the former whilst watching the talent. Got together with 'Sandra' in Maracaibo for half an hour. It was ok. Nothing to write home about (but then given the pricing, don't really have to care too much). Went to New Life this morning. This was the best experience yet. It was nice to take a nice clean girl in a nice clean environment. I think that's going to be on the agenda tomorrow morning also.

I'm slumming it down here. I know that's not the way to do it for many of you. But I like things gritty and to experience the city this way. I decided to stay on at this hotel. At least for another 2 days more anyways. They had included breakfast which I nearly passed up on - as given the price for the room, I assumed it would be terrible. It was excellent (proportionate to what I'm paying). Broadband is better than any of the places I stayed at in Panama (which I just left). No windows in the room, hard bed and cramped en-suite. But central, safe and clean at 49 k / night.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for this reminder to keep phones and other valuables out of sight in crowded public areas. I try to duck into business or sidle up to policemen if I have to use my phone out on the street. I've been lucky so far.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2140890]I remember it was close to Christmas 2016 I was walking through El Centro with phone in hand amidst a throng of shoppers and 2 guys tried to grab my phone. I held on to it and kept looking for weapons which, if produced, I would have let go the phone; however, none were proffered so I shouted loudly in English and moved my hands violently whereupon they relinquished their grip and walked off. This got barely a glance from a couple of people nearby. I kid you not.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Joe100;2140889]Went to New Life this morning. This was the best experience yet. It was nice to take a nice clean girl in a nice clean environment. I think that's going to be on the agenda tomorrow morning also.[/QUOTE]It seems like you guys are going to venues too early. Don't go to the downtown casas before 12. The best time to go to New Life is 2 pm. The downtown strip clubs (Conejita's, BE, M) don't get started til 6 pm; best to go around 8 pm. The DeGrieff street walkers (2 blocks past Conejita's) at least 8 pm. And the best time for Fase 2 is 10 pm on a Friday.

For the bus, like Knowledge said, just say El Centro. Even if you don't speak Spanish you can watch for such indicators as him going around back to put your bag inside as to if that is the correct bus. I think you mentioned Yakuza. I think that is the spot that is right across from the office of the bus station. The buses start at 3:30 am.

You can pm me,

[QUOTE=DCHammer;2140626]Hey PaisaPorFavor,

I am headed to Medellin on Wednesday. She looks very nice. Can you please send me her contact info. Thank you, sir.

DC Hammer.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140958]It seems like you guys are going to venues too early. Don't go to the downtown casas before 12. The best time to go to New Life is 2 pm. The downtown strip clubs (Conejita's, BE, M) don't get started til 6 pm; best to go around 8 pm. The DeGrieff street walkers (2 blocks past Conejita's) at least 8 pm. And the best time for Fase 2 is 10 pm on a Friday.[/QUOTE]I went to the strip clubs too early on the first day. But went back from around 9 pm onwards. Wasn't much better but then it was a Monday. DeGrieff. If truth be told, I was just going there to have a couple of afternoon beers, case the street scene out and enjoy the view. Didn't engage any services and didn't really think going there that I'd bother (although I guess you never know how things will pan out).

I went to New Life at around 11 am. They must have had 15 girls at least. So I was pleased with that. If they have more than that, then spoilt for choice for sure.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2140537]I agree! So many chicas basically apologize for their small tits and small ass. They tell me how much they want implants. I try to tell them that guys like me like the flacas and are not into the silicone. But I guess they think I'm just being nice. Same with the size and shape of their pussy. Unbelievable. Of course, chicas like Yisela Restrepo seem to only encourage some of these girls. Once she got her fake ass and fake tits, it seemed like her business increased substantially (but not from me). I am perfectly happy with smaller tits, as long as the nipples are nice. And as long as the ass is tight, it doesn't have to be big. Ahhh. Paisas.[/QUOTE]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.

Are there casas / salas / spas in Itagui or anywhere on the south end of the corridor? Looking for a link to current map of locations as well.

Gracias.

This is the second story I've heard about Yisela trying to get 300 mil from guys. DO NOT pay it. First, she's not worth it (most of these girls are not). Second, she is definitely a 150 mil girl. She is trying to get what she can get. She's become more popular now that she has the huge fake tits and ass, so she thinks she can get 300. And maybe some guys are actually paying it. Jejejeje. You can get TLN with a solid chica for 300 mil.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2141142]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2141142]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.[/QUOTE]In this "business" the price quoted and the price agreed on are frequently quite different. Especially if she thinks or knows you're newbie, she'll throw out a crazy number thinking you might be naive enough to bite on it.

Hey guys,

I was referred to this thread from a guy in the Bogota thread who thought Medellin might be more what I'm looking for. I'm still a little new to international mongering with only 2 recent Sosua DR trips under my belt. Looking to take the next step so to speak. Decent looking mid 30's white guy here with minimal Spanish language skills. Looking for easy chica access and a nice hotel that's chica friendly. "The mansion" was mentioned but I can't seem to find an actual website for it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

There are much hotter girls here cheaper. I'm sure some guys can give you some help. Model looking chicks all day for under 150 k.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2141142]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.[/QUOTE].

Had to find me a new little spinner and one happened to be in laureles. Interesting part turns out the taxi drops me off a street over and I can't find the place. Well after cruising the block for a minute the police roll up. I'm pretty drunk and figure I am about to be hassled. These 2 upstanding gentlemen escort me a street over and to the apartment. They got a good laugh out of me forgetting the girls name. Anyway the session was great 130 k BBBJ, perfect body, and beautiful face. I was quite surprised. Checks all the boxes. Always a little sketchy to walk in a strange place like that but was well worth it. Cruised veracruz this morning and again nothing to my liking. Took some pictures of where the girls hang out but unsure if I should post.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2141583]Hey guys,

I was referred to this thread from a guy in the Bogota thread who thought Medellin might be more what I'm looking for. I'm still a little new to international mongering with only 2 recent Sosua DR trips under my belt. Looking to take the next step so to speak. Decent looking mid 30's white guy here with minimal Spanish language skills. Looking for easy chica access and a nice hotel that's chica friendly. "The mansion" was mentioned but I can't seem to find an actual website for it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]You can search for "Hotel M Medellin" to find their website. There are both benefits and drawbacks to staying at the Mansion. Your lack of Spanish will be less of an issue and you'll be able to meet experienced mongers who can show you the ropes. There's a fair selection of girls on site and the pricing is mostly consistent.

However, the room price is much more than the room is worth and you're somewhat isolated from the other action. For a non-Spanish speaking newbie, it is your easiest option.

There's no real comparison to Sosua. Everything worth seeing in Sosua is a short walk away. Medellin is a major city. You won't find working girls on every corner, even in the working girl zone. Medellin has so much more to choose from. Depending on your tastes, the girls of Medellin are much better looking than the girls of Sosua. The climate in Medellin is also much better.

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2141583]...Looking for easy chica access and a nice hotel that's chica friendly. "The mansion" was mentioned but I can't seem to find an actual website for it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I'm not a Mansion fan, but many guys swear by it. Here's a link for their website: [URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html[/URL].

I am a Facebook fan, but you need a little time to establish some contacts.

Where was the place in Laurles?

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2141751]Had to find me a new little spinner and one happened to be in laureles. Interesting part turns out the taxi drops me off a street over and I can't find the place. Well after cruising the block for a minute the police roll up. I'm pretty drunk and figure I am about to be hassled. These 2 upstanding gentlemen escort me a street over and to the apartment. They got a good laugh out of me forgetting the girls name. Anyway the session was great 130 k BBBJ, perfect body, and beautiful face. I was quite surprised. Checks all the boxes. Always a little sketchy to walk in a strange place like that but was well worth it. Cruised veracruz this morning and again nothing to my liking. Took some pictures of where the girls hang out but unsure if I should post.[/QUOTE]

I had some luck using Seeking Arrangements but that costs 90/ month. Found one diamond, on SA but also try Mileroticos, Photoprepagos or other websites. I also found a little spinner on Tinder (150 K), so I think you could have some luck with Tinder. I am an early 50 yr old guy so Tinder was a little strange me looking for 20+25 yr olds, but it was clear pretty fast that they were "scorts" and has a pre typed info page once you get them on Whatsapp with their prices and services.

I stay in Laurles and like Tantra Massage, 140 K for a full service hour (5-7 girls). I think you should not pay more than 150 K for service, lots will try to charge more for BBBJ, which to me is worth it.

Maybe bring some little gifts like Vic Secret panties or some of their sprays. If you find a girl you like and see her a second time, that small purchase of $5-10 will be well worth it.

I am not much into the street girls and when I went to El Centro did not see many that caught my eye, and some TV so beware.

I stayed at Comfort Suite in Laurles and had 2 girls over they did not charge me more but they are a little more expensive than other hotels. There are tons of love motels that do short term rentals but with limited Spanish might be hard.

Try to get the girls onto Whats app then use the google translate and that will help alot.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2141780]I'm not a Mansion fan, but many guys swear by it. Here's a link for their website: [URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html[/URL].

I am a Facebook fan, but you need a little time to establish some contacts.[/QUOTE]

Near calle 48 a.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2141751]Had to find me a new little spinner and one happened to be in laureles. Interesting part turns out the taxi drops me off a street over and I can't find the place. Well after cruising the block for a minute the police roll up. I'm pretty drunk and figure I am about to be hassled. These 2 upstanding gentlemen escort me a street over and to the apartment. They got a good laugh out of me forgetting the girls name. Anyway the session was great 130 k BBBJ, perfect body, and beautiful face. I was quite surprised. Checks all the boxes. Always a little sketchy to walk in a strange place like that but was well worth it. Cruised veracruz this morning and again nothing to my liking. Took some pictures of where the girls hang out but unsure if I should post.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2141782]Where was the place in Laurles?[/QUOTE]

This will be my second trip, first time mongering. When I came last year (with girlfriend) the hotels were strict with outside visitors as they kept warning us without us requesting. Where are the best paces that allow visitors or dates?

Will anyone be in town next Wednesday? Thank you in advance!

I've tried most of the massage places in Laureles and most were disappointing and overpriced. I've not tried Tantra, will get around to it. I've had the best luck with the strip clubs near the part in el centro. No issues with kissing or DATY, all the massage places had issues with this and either the girls wouldn't do it, it was an upsell or it took some convincing.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2141787]I had some luck using Seeking Arrangements but that costs 90/ month. Found one diamond, on SA but also try Mileroticos, Photoprepagos or other websites. I also found a little spinner on Tinder (150 K), so I think you could have some luck with Tinder. I am an early 50 yr old guy so Tinder was a little strange me looking for 20+25 yr olds, but it was clear pretty fast that they were "scorts" and has a pre typed info page once you get them on Whatsapp with their prices and services.

I stay in Laurles and like Tantra Massage, 140 K for a full service hour (5-7 girls). I think you should not pay more than 150 K for service, lots will try to charge more for BBBJ, which to me is worth it.

Maybe bring some little gifts like Vic Secret panties or some of their sprays. If you find a girl you like and see her a second time, that small purchase of $5-10 will be well worth it..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2141142]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.[/QUOTE]Yisela and her friends are Barrio rats trying to ask high end prices equal to more sophisticated pro model types. My experience with some of her friends has been nothing short of annoying. Pushy messages about how they will do anything and everything only to arrive and spend most of their time taking selfies, texting and just avoiding good interpersonal contact. Yisela I do not know personally, but my experiences with a couple of her friends is enough to know they are not the kind of company I call a good time. If anyone has a positive review on her, please share your experience and prove me wrong.

[QUOTE=HappyButLookin;2141988]I've tried most of the massage places in Laureles and most were disappointing and overpriced. I've not tried Tantra, will get around to it. I've had the best luck with the strip clubs near the part in el centro. No issues with kissing or DATY, all the massage places had issues with this and either the girls wouldn't do it, it was an upsell or it took some convincing.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Energy in Laureles, although I checked out The Secret Spa. The lineup was 4 girls with the best being below average. At Energy the only upsell I've had was a girl who wanted a beer. I'm at 100% on DATY, with no upsell, no hesitation, 50% on BBBJ and kissing. The price is high compared to the casas, not much higher compared to the strip clubs (80 k for a short 30 vs. 150 k for a full hour), but the environment is much better. Clean sheets, big room, nice shower vs. Sheets that are changed every other week, a floor you can grow potatoes on and a shower that's only different from being pissed on by a bull by lacking hot water and the lack of hairy balls in your face.

What's up guys I'll be in Medellíand from March 25- April 2nd for "Holy Week" . I was originally flying to Bogotoa to meet my girlfriend but we broke up and I already bought my tickets. I don't speak any Spanish but I look Hispanic. I'm coming to you guys for advice on where to stay and what resources I can use online to set up some dates before I get there. I'm 24, and muscular build.

I'm definitely trying to get laid by 8's+. I've heard about a "mansion" and some strip clubs. This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks bros!

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2141142]I am a newbie heading to Medellin this weekend. How much I should be paying Yisela. She quoted me 300 whereas other facebook chickas are at 150-200 range.[/QUOTE]300 mill for what?

If it is for Todo la Noche. Going out. Doing what you want with her as many times as you want 300 is an OK price. If it is for a few hours she is charging you too much.

You need to make clear what you want and how long you want the chick.

[QUOTE=Local631;2142097]What's up guys I'll be in Medelland from March 25- April 2nd for "Holy Week" . I was originally flying to Bogotoa to meet my girlfriend but we broke up and I already bought my tickets. I don't speak any Spanish but I look Hispanic. I'm coming to you guys for advice on where to stay and what resources I can use online to set up some dates before I get there. I'm 24, and muscular build.

I'm definitely trying to get laid by 8's+. I've heard about a "mansion" and some strip clubs. This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks bros![/QUOTE]Worse week of the year to be in Colombia!

Pay the fee, change tickets!

Read the friggin forums and posts muscle guy! LOL.

You are spot on, my man. Been with several of Yisela's friends. My description is the same. Yisela can be friendly and chatty. But don't expect any different level of service.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2142036]Yisela and her friends are Barrio rats trying to ask high end prices equal to more sophisticated pro model types. My experience with some of her friends has been nothing short of annoying. Pushy messages about how they will do anything and everything only to arrive and spend most of their time taking selfies, texting and just avoiding good interpersonal contact. Yisela I do not know personally, but my experiences with a couple of her friends is enough to know they are not the kind of company I call a good time. If anyone has a positive review on her, please share your experience and prove me wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Local631;2142097]What's up guys I'll be in Medelland from March 25- April 2nd for "Holy Week" . I was originally flying to Bogotoa to meet my girlfriend but we broke up and I already bought my tickets. I don't speak any Spanish but I look Hispanic. I'm coming to you guys for advice on where to stay and what resources I can use online to set up some dates before I get there. I'm 24, and muscular build.

I'm definitely trying to get laid by 8's+. I've heard about a "mansion" and some strip clubs. This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks bros![/QUOTE]Where to stay would be in the US until Easter Week is over. It is the worst pain in the ass. Hotel rates triple and the hookers are reduced by 2/3. With zero Spanish you will be able to set up approximately zero dates before you get there, and I am fluent and would not be able to set up very many during Holy Week. Even if you throw your ticket away, you are better off coming some other week, because the prices will go up so much for everything.

Not just the worst week to be in Colombia, but the worst week to be anywhere Catholic. I am going to an undisclosed location with a different and undisclosed majority religion, but I have to be back on Easter to get to the next undisclosed location, and ALL the trains are sold out on Monday 2 April. ALL the hotels are outrageously expensive until 3 April, and it is all a big fucking mess.

It would be like a Muslim or a Jew showing up on Dec. 25 to find pussy in the US. It really would.

[QUOTE=Local631;2142097]

I'm definitely trying to get laid by 8's+. I've heard about a "mansion" and some strip clubs. This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks bros![/QUOTE]Probably only way you will get consistently laid during Holy week in Medellin is if you stay that the Mansion.

The women will be mostly 7's but a Colombian 7 is like a 9 to a lot of guys coming to Colombia for the first time.

You can also hit up the strip clubs after 11 pm if you don't hit it off with any of the women at the mansion bar.

Always make friends with all the mansion chicks whether you like them or not and add them to your facebook.

They all have friends that work and you can meet a ton of women through facebook using this method.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2142171]Where to stay would be in the US until Easter Week is over. It is the worst pain in the ass. Hotel rates triple and the hookers are reduced by 2/3. With zero Spanish you will be able to set up approximately zero dates before you get there, and I am fluent and would not be able to set up very many during Holy Week. Even if you throw your ticket away, you are better off coming some other week, because the prices will go up so much for everything.

Not just the worst week to be in Colombia, but the worst week to be anywhere Catholic. I am going to an undisclosed location with a different and undisclosed majority religion, but I have to be back on Easter to get to the next undisclosed location, and ALL the trains are sold out on Monday 2 April. ALL the hotels are outrageously expensive until 3 April, and it is all a big fucking mess.

It would be like a Muslim or a Jew showing up on Dec. 25 to find pussy in the US. It really would.[/QUOTE]Fuck this puts me in a shitty situation LOL. I'm definitely not going to spend the money if it will be dead while I'm there. Thankfully I asked you guys soon enough. I'll have to contact American Airlines and see if I can change the dates or get a refund. Thanks for letting me know.

I've been browsing these forums for about a month and I never came across anything giving this information.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2138939]The Mansion (gringo hotel) does not take a cut of any of the girls money.[/QUOTE]Ja Ja. Snicker.

Getting more and more accustomed to Medellin since arriving earlier this week. New Life is proving to be a major success. I went there early in the morning the first couple of times (I know that wasn't recommended but it suited and it was nice to get laid to set the day off). Went there this evening. Paired up with 'Chantal' - a tall black girl. Great attitude, beautiful girl and really knows how to do the business. She literally shagged the life out of me. The previous two girls were not bad but they did try to upsell me on the BJ without condom whereas Chantal didn't even go there. She sucked my plums also. And wrapped her big wonderful titties around my cock. I'm getting a hard on just thinking back on it right now. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl & doggie and with all that I had to slow things down so that I wouldn't 'arrive early'...but ultimately, bust my nuts.

Prior to that, I visited Yakuza for the first time. However, there were only about 5 girls in the line up. And none of them appealed. So I left without busting a nut.

I was at a loose end and I know it was the wrong time but I dropped down to Av. De Grieff. Had a couple of beers whilst watching the talent. I also had a ramble through Veracruz. Whilst it may have been the wrong time, I find it hard to get excited about any of the chicas down there. Might go down later on for another look as I'm sure it's in full swing now - particularly as it's Friday evening.

I also dropped in to Conejitas and this time there was life in it. Didn't hook up with any of the chicas though.

You sound like a veteran. It's clear you know how to handle yourself. I'm looking forward to reading more about how your trip goes.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2142196]Getting more and more accustomed to Medellin since arriving earlier this week. New Life is proving to be a major success. I went there early in the morning the first couple of times (I know that wasn't recommended but it suited and it was nice to get laid to set the day off). Went there this evening. Paired up with 'Chantal' - a tall black girl. Great attitude, beautiful girl and really knows how to do the business. She literally shagged the life out of me. The previous two girls were not bad but they did try to upsell me on the BJ without condom whereas Chantal didn't even go there. She sucked my plums also. And wrapped her big wonderful titties around my cock. I'm getting a hard on just thinking back on it right now. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl & doggie and with all that I had to slow things down so that I wouldn't 'arrive early'...but ultimately, bust my nuts.

Prior to that, I visited Yakuza for the first time. However, there were only about 5 girls in the line up. And none of them appealed. So I left without busting a nut..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2142171]Where to stay would be in the US until Easter Week is over. It is the worst pain in the ass. Hotel rates triple and the hookers are reduced by 2/3. With zero Spanish you will be able to set up approximately zero dates before you get there, and I am fluent and would not be able to set up very many during Holy Week. Even if you throw your ticket away, you are better off coming some other week, because the prices will go up so much for everything.

Not just the worst week to be in Colombia, but the worst week to be anywhere Catholic. I am going to an undisclosed location with a different and undisclosed majority religion, but I have to be back on Easter to get to the next undisclosed location, and ALL the trains are sold out on Monday 2 April. ALL the hotels are outrageously expensive until 3 April, and it is all a big fucking mess.

It would be like a Muslim or a Jew showing up on Dec. 25 to find pussy in the US. It really would.[/QUOTE]It is a FUCKING GHOSTTOWN during holy week.

Also, ALL the love holtels are closed. The malls are dead. Eveyone goes to hang with their families. I think the casa's are closed even.

You are fucking up! I was out ther efor 3 months one time and I recall during holy it being THE WORSt. I had a novia a the time and we wanted to go to a love hotel and jesus closed all of them! CLOSED!!

Totally sucks.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2142171]Where to stay would be in the US until Easter Week is over. It is the worst pain in the ass. Hotel rates triple and the hookers are reduced by 2/3.[/QUOTE]No shit. I am supposed to go to Eje Cafetero outside of Armenia with my girlfriend. I already booked a hotel. Just looked at ticket prices from Bogota, 1M pesos each for the 1 hour flight. I am about to break it to her that we will not be going there. Why do Latinas always try to do shit on holidays when it is most expensive?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2142252]It is a FUCKING GHOSTTOWN during holy week.

Also, ALL the love holtels are closed. The malls are dead. Eveyone goes to hang with their families. I think the casa's are closed even.

You are fucking up! I was out ther efor 3 months one time and I recall during holy it being THE WORSt. I had a novia a the time and we wanted to go to a love hotel and jesus closed all of them! CLOSED!!

Totally sucks.[/QUOTE]I've been in MDE a few times during Holy Week and IMO it's ok up to Wednesday. It's certainly not as good as normal, but the first half of the week is doable. And if you've bonded with a certain chica early in the week, she'll likely make time for her Thurs. Sun.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2142282]No shit. I am supposed to go to Eje Cafetero outside of Armenia with my girlfriend. I already booked a hotel. Just looked at ticket prices from Bogota, 1M pesos each for the 1 hour flight. I am about to break it to her that we will not be going there. Why do Latinas always try to do shit on holidays when it is most expensive?[/QUOTE]Cause they know you're paying.

[QUOTE=Combo;2142303]I've been in MDE a few times during Holy Week and IMO it's ok up to Wednesday. It's certainly not as good as normal, but the first half of the week is doable. And if you've bonded with a certain chica early in the week, she'll likely make time for her Thurs. Sun.
.[/QUOTE]Uh huh, uh huh, Holy Week sucks in Medellin.

Like some brand new guy, 0 spanish, 0 experience is going to bond.

Not likely.

Again, better advice, pay the fee, change your tickets.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2142335]Uh huh, uh huh, Holy Week sucks in Medellin.

Like some brand new guy, 0 spanish, 0 experience is going to bond.

Not likely.

Again, better advice, pay the fee, change your tickets.[/QUOTE]But he looks Hispanic! Jajajaja.

I enjoyed Holy Week last year, but I didn't do any mongering. Definitely not a good time to come if you're just trying to get laid.

I have been to Medellin during Holy Week and I would advise a newbie with no Spanish that it is difficult to get laid between Thursday and Sunday. If you are there from a week before to a week after you would have enough time to make the necessary arrangements before the slow 4 days and the week after will be back to normal.

Amigos I think so many of the instagrams chicas are prepagos hmmm.

[QUOTE=BlackPanther3X;2136840]Hello guys,

I'm a porn amateur producer, interested in mongering in Colombia, (mostly Medellin), but also, add some Colombian (18-25) flavors to my content.

So I need your help on how is the best way you think to recruit couple of girls in that age range, and their average prices?. Would it be better for me if I try SWs, or regulars in bars, or even websites like [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] ?. If the latter case, which other website would you advise me? Do they have a sort of backpage or craigslist websites where they advertise?

Thanks in advance for your enlightment, anything will help.

Blackpanther.[/QUOTE]Did you find any talent for your movies?

Does anyone know if Hotel 70 in Laurales is a safe spot / located in a good neighborhood? Found a prepago who was hosting there.

BTW, as an side, she said she was staying near the stadium "for the entire race." What race is going on right now? Curious!

[QUOTE=BlackPanther3X;2136840]Hello guys,

I'm a porn amateur producer, interested in mongering in Colombia, (mostly Medellin), but also, add some Colombian (18-25) flavors to my content.

So I need your help on how is the best way you think to recruit couple of girls in that age range, and their average prices?. Would it be better for me if I try SWs, or regulars in bars, or even websites like [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] ?. If the latter case, which other website would you advise me? Do they have a sort of backpage or craigslist websites where they advertise?

Thanks in advance for your enlightment, anything will help.

Blackpanther.[/QUOTE]If you're interested in mongering in Colombia, come to Colombia and monger. If you're interested in finding Colombians to make porn, then come to Colombia to do that. Mixing the 2 probably isn't a good idea.

Colombian girls know 2 things about porn. 1. It's everywhere, so the chances of their family finding out about it are high. 2. Pornstars make lots of money. Between those two things is where you're going to have problems.

Now you can try to tell them that their family won't ever see the video, except they probably know someone who had that happen. I know 2 women it happened to and I've been here less than a year. Or you can try to explain how pornstars start out working for very little until lots of people see their videos. Which brings you right back to their family finding out.

Many of the prepagos will let you take pictures, or even videos, for your personal use. Others will agree to let you post pictures, if they don't show the face. Maybe 1 of 10 will agree to let you distribute and sell videos and that's being generous. So you end up wasting a lot of time and money with girls who don't want to be in your videos. In the process you end up with lots of crappy mongering, because the ones who don't want anything to do with porn just want to get paid so they can get out of there.

Want to find Colombian models for porn? Set up a Facebook page that states what you do. Post pictures of some of your previous models. Start finding and adding Colombian girls to your friend list. Once you have 80 - 100 girls on your list take out an ad on Facebook. Pay to boost the ad. The ad should say what you are looking for. Be prepared to answer lots of questions, in Spanish. Spend some money to rent a luxury apartment in Medellin. Show up with a crew (still photographer, videographer, hair stylist, makeup artist and wardrobe at a minimum) and get the girls to come in for screen test / interview. You'll want to bring along some professional lighting and cameras. You'll get girls who will show and work for a reasonable price, because they can see you're serious.

Show up with your iPhone and rent a cheap apartment and they'll see you're just another monger trying to take advantage of them.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2142183]Ja Ja. Snicker.[/QUOTE]

I can always tell which guys can't communicate well with the women. Jajaja.

I don't like to jump to conclusions but I can't think of any other reason for someone to be so misinformed.

At any rate the Mansion is tailor made for guys whose Spanish is poor on non existent. jajaja

[QUOTE=BlackPanther3X;2136840]Hello guys,

I'm a porn amateur producer, interested in mongering in Colombia, (mostly Medellin), but also, add some Colombian (18-25) flavors to my content.

So I need your help on how is the best way you think to recruit couple of girls in that age range, and their average prices?. Would it be better for me if I try SWs, or regulars in bars, or even websites like [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] ?. If the latter case, which other website would you advise me? Do they have a sort of backpage or craigslist websites where they advertise?

Thanks in advance for your enlightment, anything will help.

Blackpanther.[/QUOTE]Send a PM to Colombian Jake. Or MedellinPaisa...I think that was the handle for Noah...

[QUOTE=Local631;2142097]What's up guys I'll be in Medelland from March 25- April 2nd for "Holy Week" . I was originally flying to Bogotoa to meet my girlfriend but we broke up and I already bought my tickets. I don't speak any Spanish but I look Hispanic. I'm coming to you guys for advice on where to stay and what resources I can use online to set up some dates before I get there. I'm 24, and muscular build.

I'm definitely trying to get laid by 8's+. I've heard about a "mansion" and some strip clubs. This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks bros![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Balboa;2142166]Worse week of the year to be in Colombia!

Pay the fee, change tickets!

Read the friggin forums and posts muscle guy! LOL.[/QUOTE]Another reason to pay the $15 or so extortion for trip insurance. It can get your ass out of a jam like the one above, LOL.

The Muslim or Jew showing up to the US to get pussy on Dec 25th was as stark of an example as it can get, hahaha!

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2142120]300 mill for what?

If it is for Todo la Noche. Going out. Doing what you want with her as many times as you want 300 is an OK price. If it is for a few hours she is charging you too much.

You need to make clear what you want and how long you want the chick.[/QUOTE]Do forget that there are enough thirsty guys out there that will pay the 300 K and then some. It may just be best to move on to someone else if she is sticking to that amount.

That's to high of a number to test out whether she'd be good enough to repeat with. What if she shows up smelling like the Gordon Fisherman?

I think that's good advice. Consider also that there are many more thirsty girls who will accept much less than 300 k. At least some of those girls are likely to be more attractive than Miss 300 K. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2142976]Do forget that there are enough thirsty guys out there that will pay the 300 K and then some. It may just be best to move on to someone else if she is sticking to that amount.

That's to high of a number to test out whether she'd be good enough to repeat with. What if she shows up smelling like the Gordon Fisherman? 🐟.[/QUOTE]

Another question -- are all the postings on [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] from women who work for madames / spas? Or are they mostly independent?

What kind of caution should I exercise when seeking services out on photoprepagos?

[QUOTE=Local631;2142097]I was originally flying to Bogotoa to meet my girlfriend but we broke up and I already bought my tickets... This will be my first time traveling out of the country and I'm going solo. [/QUOTE]So you met your girlfriend in your country? Or you were going to Bogota to meet someone that you didn't know that you were calling your girlfriend? Another reason why a list of back ups or familiarizing yourself with the monger spots is important. Depending on a lone chick, you could have gotten down there and the girl not shown up. Then what?

And are natural. Not put together with silicone.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2143007]I think that's good advice. Consider also that there are many more thirsty girls who will accept much less than 300 k. At least some of those girls are likely to be more attractive than Miss 300 K. Enjoy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2143007]I think that's good advice. Consider also that there are many more thirsty girls who will accept much less than 300 k. At least some of those girls are likely to be more attractive than Miss 300 K. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Those cheap girls are not quality girls. Everybody knows that you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143053]So you met your girlfriend in your country? Or you were going to Bogota to meet someone that you didn't know that you were calling your girlfriend? Another reason why a list of back ups or familiarizing yourself with the monger spots is important. Depending on a lone chick, you could have gotten down there and the girl not shown up. Then what?[/QUOTE]I met her in the United States, she was studying English for 1 year here. She was my real girlfriend LOL. She lived with me for 6 months in the United States on a tourist visa. We dated for 1.5 years.

I definitely was not going to fly to Colombia to meet some girl I met on the internet.

Wife says Medellin is no go for me. Anyone now if you can get into Colombia and have them stamp a piece of paper and staple it to your passport? Kind of like what Cuba did for American passports when it was illegal to go there? I'm in panama for a month and will probably have a good time. But I've never experienced Colombia. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143056]Those cheap girls are not quality girls. Everybody knows that you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]Come on bro. We've got newbies up in here, LOL. They may not get the tongue-in-cheek reference.

In my early thirsty days I paid 250K for ST for a chick with a botched boob job and bleeding (aunt flow was in town). Couldn't even finish the session.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143056]Those cheap girls are not quality girls. Everybody knows that you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]Actually, everyone should know that what you pay for PFP does not reflect the quality of your session.

Just because a girl charges more, doesn't mean at all that she'll be better looking or better service.

Hello,

Will be on Medellin next month, I am starting my research, great information here.

Anyone have call girls on this page dollclub. Co.

Don't negotiate. Don't list sex acts like you're ordering off a menu.

Talk to them. Feel them out and make an offer. The entire process shouldn't exceed 2 minutes. Then maybe negotiate a little otherwise move on. There's 1,000+ other chicas that same day willing to fuck you for cash.

[QUOTE=CathysClown;2143032]Another question -- are all the postings on [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] from women who work for madames / spas? Or are they mostly independent?

What kind of caution should I exercise when seeking services out on photoprepagos?[/QUOTE]On the page there is a checkbox, you can filter for independent girls.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143127]Don't negotiate. Don't list sex acts like you're ordering off a menu.

Talk to them. Feel them out and make an offer. The entire process shouldn't exceed 2 minutes. Then maybe negotiate a little otherwise move on. There's 1,000+ other chicas that same day willing to fuck you for cash.[/QUOTE]Agreed! Be confident and flexible enough to just let it go. I have seen so many guys get stuck on a chica just based on few facebook photos.

There are tons of opportunities in Medellin and at just about any hour, someplace you can go or call to find good company. It is easy to get caught up in a fairly large circle of chicas who are advanced in the FB game. But trust me, if you can dig a little, have a little humility, and not be afraid to say Hello, there are tons of girls who are way more real and pleasant to hang out with.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143127]Don't negotiate. Don't list sex acts like you're ordering off a menu.

Talk to them. Feel them out and make an offer. The entire process shouldn't exceed 2 minutes. Then maybe negotiate a little otherwise move on. There's 1,000+ other chicas that same day willing to fuck you for cash.[/QUOTE]That's good advice for most. I go with the flow, which is why I prefer to meet first, then discuss business. With some there's nothing there. The body and face might be great, but all you're getting is a vagina rental, rather than a full experience.

However, for the people that absolutely insist upon one or two things, they're stuck with laying out their menu requirements. But if those things are that important, they probably don't care about what they're missing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143053]So you met your girlfriend in your country? Or you were going to Bogota to meet someone that you didn't know that you were calling your girlfriend? Another reason why a list of back ups or familiarizing yourself with the monger spots is important. Depending on a lone chick, you could have gotten down there and the girl not shown up. Then what?[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head. Someone from online that never met IRL. I mean the spelling mistake on Bogota alone is a give away.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2142196]She literally shagged the life out of me. [/QUOTE]Wouldn't you be dead? Is this a message from the grave?

Man I spent weeks walking around Centro looking for this 30 k hottie. Some club must have snapped her up. Damn shame.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2143056]Those cheap girls are not quality girls. Everybody knows that you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2143127]Don't list sex acts like you're ordering off a menu.[/QUOTE]YK makes a number of good points, but this is the one I agree with most. She says she doesn't like to do X, you say it is a deal breaker, she says okay, and what do you get? Somebody doing something they are not into. How into it, and how good at it, will they be? You're also taking (even more) advantage of the power disparity. Plus, she may say okay and then not do it anyway, once she has the money.

I dunno about the two minute negotiations, though. Lengthy negotiations in clubs can be a lot of fun, especially if done playfully while sampling the merchandise.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2143260]I think you hit the nail on the head. Someone from online that never met IRL. I mean the spelling mistake on Bogota alone is a give away.[/QUOTE] But just because I misspelled Bogota on my iPhone, that means I met the girl online?

She was my girlfriend, she lived with me for 6 months on a tourist Visa. I'm not going to fly to a foreign country to meet with a girl I met online.

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Anyone got a line on a short time hotel near Parque Lleras?

Mr. E and BC's responses to Local631 seem out of line. He's accepting that he may have messed up the Semana Santa thing. No reason to think he is enough of a tool to call someone he has never met his girlfriend. But in response to Mr. E, suppose somebody goes to Colombia to meet someone and then they don't show up. Then what? Then plan be. I've certainly shown up in places I have never been before and managed to find pussy, even when I didn't speak the language. Hong Kong comes to mind. That was some damn good pussy, too. We did the Franklin translator thing (remember those?) but the problem was, telling her where my hotel was when I did not know the street name, only how to get back there, and had to get my wingman where he was going first. Moral is, always pocket business cards from the hotel. So that saved the day. One of the few times I had sex entirely with hand signals.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2143269]Man I spent weeks walking around Centro looking for this 30 k hottie. Some club must have snapped her up. Damn shame..[/QUOTE]They are rare but then again it is only $10's or so.

Out girls I have seen off SeekingArrangements, at Energy, New Like, Chica Puntas, Yakuza, Raudal, Mayorista, Fase II, Luna Lunera, BarraEjectiva, Conejitas and Maricaibo- 2 of my top 3 favs were VeraCruz Centro chicks. They were fun, happy, down to earth, not mercenary about $ and treated me like their boyfriend.

I looked but cannot find any info.

Anyone have any experience with happy endings at the OM Spa for Men in Rio Sur Mall or perhaps at the other spa one floor below OM?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2143393]Mr. E and BC's responses to Local631 seem out of line. He's accepting that he may have messed up the Semana Santa thing. No reason to think he is enough of a tool to call someone he has never met his girlfriend. But in response to Mr. E, suppose somebody goes to Colombia to meet someone and then they don't show up. Then what? Then plan be. I've certainly shown up in places I have never been before and managed to find pussy, even when I didn't speak the language.[/QUOTE]9 times out of 10 when I give advice on something it is because I have fucked up in that exact same manner; several times! I learned better so I want to teach better. If all else fails I get into a taxi and say take me to the women, and not the expensive ones. I had the Franklin my first time in Bogota. That thing was not worth a damn. I returned it to Target as soon as I got back to the States.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2143452]I looked but cannot find any info.

Anyone have any experience with happy endings at the OM Spa for Men in Rio Sur Mall or perhaps at the other spa one floor below OM?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been to OM twice and both times got an excellent massage. Both times a happy ending was non-explicitly offered at the end for what I presume would entail a bit extra. I didn't go for it as I just wanted a great massage.

Speaking of great massages, does anyone know the whereabouts of Luisa that used to do it at the Mansion? That girl had fantastic skills. I used to get a massage from her like every other day.

[QUOTE=Combo;2143514]I've been to OM twice and both times got an excellent massage. Both times a happy ending was non-explicitly offered at the end for what I presume would entail a bit extra. I didn't go for it as I just wanted a great massage.

Speaking of great massages, does anyone know the whereabouts of Luisa that used to do it at the Mansion? That girl had fantastic skills. I used to get a massage from her like every other day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. On another site a few years ago a guy claimed that the massage "therapist" offered him bareback FS but he could have been blowing smoke.

Anyway. I heard that Luisa got the heave ho. Don't know why or if it was some whim of Robert's or something.

Luisa is a bit flakey. She traveled some. Actually went to Mexico to be with some guy for a while. But she is back in medellin. Her facebook is Louise Hands and she posts regularly, including fotos.

Luisa will have sex, but she is very particular about with who (moreso now than in the past). Mostly it's a straight massage or a massage with a hand job.

She left the Mansion / Castillo because Robert wanted a pretty high monthly fee for her to have the privilege of working there. I do not think she's allowed to come on the property, even at a guest's request.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2143837]Thanks for the info. On another site a few years ago a guy claimed that the massage "therapist" offered him bareback FS but he could have been blowing smoke.

Anyway. I heard that Luisa got the heave ho. Don't know why or if it was some whim of Robert's or something.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2143846]She left the Mansion / Castillo because Robert wanted a pretty high monthly fee for her to have the privilege of working there. I do not think she's allowed to come on the property, even at a guest's request.[/QUOTE]What? Wait, I thought girls don't have to kick anything back to the Gringo Inn. This is confusing.

The working girls do not pay the Mansion anything. But if you are providing services like massage or nails or whatever, apparently you have to pay a fee to have exclusive access. A fine line, I guess.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2143857]What? Wait, I thought girls don't have to kick anything back to the Gringo Inn. This is confusing.[/QUOTE]

At least when I was there, the working girls had to fuck the owners for free, which is the same thing as kicking back money.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2143846]Luisa is a bit flakey. She traveled some. Actually went to Mexico to be with some guy for a while. But she is back in medellin. Her facebook is Louise Hands and she posts regularly, including fotos.

Luisa will have sex, but she is very particular about with who (moreso now than in the past). Mostly it's a straight massage or a massage with a hand job.

She left the Mansion / Castillo because Robert wanted a pretty high monthly fee for her to have the privilege of working there. I do not think she's allowed to come on the property, even at a guest's request.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link to her profile? Not finding her on FB.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144022]At least when I was there, the working girls had to fuck the owners for free, which is the same thing as kicking back money.[/QUOTE]:confused: Don't the owners have anyone more attractive to fuck in Medellin?? After so many years living there, they MUST know the area better than any of us, and for sure know where to dig for jewels.
(why smileys are disabled here? I never understood this)

That was true at one time, although I don't equate a free lay with paying a percentage of your earnings to the house. There is really only one owner left actively working the business. Whether he bangs any of them for free. Out of their obligation. I do not know. But certainly he doesn't have enough time or leche to bang all of the chicas who go through the Mansion in a given month.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144022]At least when I was there, the working girls had to fuck the owners for free, which is the same thing as kicking back money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2143880]The working girls do not pay the Mansion anything. But if you are providing services like massage or nails or whatever, apparently you have to pay a fee to have exclusive access. A fine line, I guess.[/QUOTE]The massage girls had an appointment book they had to log every massage in & a portion of each payment went back to the house. I heard this from one of the massage girls so whether it is true or not, I have no clue. But why would she lie about this.

The working girls, as far as I know, did not kick back any $$. Maybe poontang upon interviewing. Boyd sure does like to show off his pics of his trophies at the M2 on his fb page. Of course, none of this is discussed out in the open if it happens at all.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2144111]That was true at one time, although I don't equate a free lay with paying a percentage of your earnings to the house. There is really only one owner left actively working the business. Whether he bangs any of them for free. Out of their obligation. I do not know. But certainly he doesn't have enough time or leche to bang all of the chicas who go through the Mansion in a given month.[/QUOTE]

Some of the girls at the Mansion have gotten into relationships with some of the owners. So the girls pay with their pussies to live with them. Not much different than any other relationship a guy might have with a woman.

But no, girls are not required to fuck the owners to work at the mansion.

Boyd has had a number of women live with him off and on over the years.....while he lived at the mansion and later in his apartment.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144022]At least when I was there, the working girls had to fuck the owners for free, which is the same thing as kicking back money.[/QUOTE]Every post you make about the mansion or casa blanca is way off. I don't believe you have ever been to either one at this point.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2143857]What? Wait, I thought girls don't have to kick anything back to the Gringo Inn. This is confusing.[/QUOTE]They don't.

The haters are chiming in, disregard the BS. 😉

I guess the guy confirming both that the Aussie had a 15 why / o GF and that the women used to have to fuck the owners hasn't been there either then. I have never stayed at M2 aka El Castillo. 'The Mansion' = 'Casa Blanca' and is sometimes referred to as M1. If the Aussie is not involved any more, that would certainly represent progress.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2144094]:confused: Don't the owners have anyone more attractive to fuck in Medellin?? After so many years living there, they MUST know the area better than any of us, and for sure know where to dig for jewels.
(why smileys are disabled here? I never understood this)[/QUOTE]They (Robert) does have very hotttt girlfriends. 😋

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144164]I guess the guy confirming both that the Aussie had a 15 why / o GF and that the women used to have to fuck the owners hasn't been there either then. I have never stayed at M2 aka El Castillo. 'The Mansion' = 'Casa Blanca' and is sometimes referred to as M1. If the Aussie is not involved any more, that would certainly represent progress.[/QUOTE]When he (Aussie) was active at the place, yes, he would pick and choose who he wanted and required to be with him, in order for them to remain invited to work there.

Definitely wasn't all of them, only the ones he selected.

Of course they could say No, and work elsewhere.

Now, he's never there, and when he is, just passes through.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2144170]When he (Aussie) was active at the place, yes, he would pick and choose who he wanted and required to be with him, in order for them to remain invited to work there.

Definitely wasn't all of them, only the ones he selected.

Of course they could say No, and work elsewhere.

Now, he's never there, and when he is, just passes through.[/QUOTE]Watched Angelina Ortiz turn Greg down and she still worked at the mansion.

Even Greg paid the random girls he fucked at the mansion otherwise none of them would work there jajaja.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2144164]I guess the guy confirming both that the Aussie had a 15 why / o GF and that the women used to have to fuck the owners hasn't been there either then. I have never stayed at M2 aka El Castillo. 'The Mansion' = 'Casa Blanca' and is sometimes referred to as M1. If the Aussie is not involved any more, that would certainly represent progress.[/QUOTE]Could be the guy has mever been there unless he can come with a good story on how he or anyone else would know how old any of Greg's girlfriends are Jajaja.

I'll critic your wildly inaccurate post in the casa Blanca thread later. Where you checked two girls in your room and found them to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url].

I mean really they aren't any IDs that show a girl is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903][CodeWord903][/url] unless they were showing you their contraseñas jajaja.

And anyone who has ever brought a chick into the mansion knows.

No chick is getting in without a cedula.

Could be you have never even been to Colombia.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2144191]Watched Angelina Ortiz turn Greg down and she still worked at the mansion.

Even Greg paid the random girls he fucked at the mansion otherwise none of them would work there jajaja.[/QUOTE]It was totally random, Aussie and his mood swings, LOL.

But I can confirm that the Mansion of old was very different. I have been going to the Mansion on and off for over 11 years. Back then there was no La Cueva and the girls were there during the afternoon. At one time there was even a book with fotos of girls so you could make a request. Aussie lived at the Mansion and regularly had girlfriends (always hot and always young). He also gave new girls a "try out. " I believe Robert also participated in the "tryouts". This was pre-Boyd. So the truth is that things did happen back in the day. The cedula checks were not as thorough. Things were pretty crazy (if anyone remembers the Sunday afternoon BBQs). What happens at the Mansion now is very tame compared to the old days. It has to be in order for them to stay in business.

In more recent years, I know that Boyd and Aussie often paid the chicas. Not sure how much (I would assume less than what we paid). This is firsthand info. Like I said, a lot has changed over 11 years. Aussie and Boyd are doing their own thing now and Robert (and to a lesser extend, Alexa) are running the show now.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2144220]Could be the guy has mever been there unless he can come with a good story on how he or anyone else would know how old any of Greg's girlfriends are Jajaja.

I'll critic your wildly inaccurate post in the casa Blanca thread later. Where you checked two girls in your room and found them to be /url].

I mean really they aren't any IDs that show a girl is unless they were showing you their contraseas jajaja.

And anyone who has ever brought a chick into the mansion knows.

No chick is getting in without a cedula.

Could be you have never even been to Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2144228]But I can confirm that the Mansion of old was very different. I have been going to the Mansion on and off for over 11 years. Back then there was no La Cueva and the girls were there during the afternoon. At one time there was even a book with fotos of girls so you could make a request. Aussie lived at the Mansion and regularly had girlfriends (always hot and always young). He also gave new girls a "try out. " I believe Robert also participated in the "tryouts". This was pre-Boyd. So the truth is that things did happen back in the day. The cedula checks were not as thorough. Things were pretty crazy (if anyone remembers the Sunday afternoon BBQs). What happens at the Mansion now is very tame compared to the old days. It has to be in order for them to stay in business.

In more recent years, I know that Boyd and Aussie often paid the chicas. Not sure how much (I would assume less than what we paid). This is firsthand info. Like I said, a lot has changed over 11 years. Aussie and Boyd are doing their own thing now and Robert (and to a lesser extend, Alexa) are running the show now.[/QUOTE]Exactly!

I've been going since before they had the Mansion, but the Penthouse.

Actually, before then, Robert had an apartment with some Brit, running an introduction service, LOL.

We can take this to the Casa Blanca thread. It does not really belong here. I am quite well known on this board and many people know I lived in Medellín, and I am not concerned about what people may think. I will say that I am, perhaps incorrectly but perhaps not, using the word 'cédula' in the general sense it is used in spanish:

[URL]http://www.wordreference.com/definicion/c[/URL]cédula.

Of the two females who turned out not to be the age they claimed, one presented me with a 'tarjeta de identidad,' thinking I either would accept it at face value, or could not add, or something. One presented me with someone else's ID; if I recall correctly, it was a driver's license. It looked sort of like her, but was not her. A few days later, she admitted this to me.

It is true I do not like the mansion, because both Greg and Boyd jacked me around. I had helped Greg out in another country, and even visited him in the hospital, so I resented the way he treated me, and he is a dirt bag and has short eyes. If I had not stayed at the mansion, it would be unlikely that I would know that Greg's Rottweiler, whose name was Paisa, was shitting in the guest rooms. Robert I have never met.

It's also true I have not been to the Mansion or to Colombia in quite a long time, and it is also quite possible that they have cleaned up their act. I mentioned both those facts previously. I still think it is mostly for rookies and is overpriced and not in a good location for a true colombian experience.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2144228]But I can confirm that the Mansion of old was very different. I have been going to the Mansion on and off for over 11 years. Back then there was no La Cueva and the girls were there during the afternoon. At one time there was even a book with fotos of girls so you could make a request. Aussie lived at the Mansion and regularly had girlfriends (always hot and always young). He also gave new girls a "try out. " I believe Robert also participated in the "tryouts". This was pre-Boyd. So the truth is that things did happen back in the day. The cedula checks were not as thorough. Things were pretty crazy (if anyone remembers the Sunday afternoon BBQs). What happens at the Mansion now is very tame compared to the old days. It has to be in order for them to stay in business.

In more recent years, I know that Boyd and Aussie often paid the chicas. Not sure how much (I would assume less than what we paid). This is firsthand info. Like I said, a lot has changed over 11 years. Aussie and Boyd are doing their own thing now and Robert (and to a lesser extend, Alexa) are running the show now.[/QUOTE]I believe that.

But what I don't believe is Dickheads post in the casa Blanca forum about checking IDs and finding the two girls he brought to his room where [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url].

There just aren't any cedulas that show a chick is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] because well you have to be 18 to even get a cedula.

Just exactly what year was it before chicks were required to be 18 and have a cedula at the mansion.

Because that was before my time.

If you read my post on the Casa Blanca forum, you will see that I did [B]not[/B] say I brought them to my room. I ascertained they were u n d e r a g e first, and thus did not bring them to my room. My PP explains my generic use of the word that the auto correcting software will only mess up, but which is a generic spanish word for an identification card of various sorts. It may mean some specific type of ID in certain specific spanish-speaking countries, but I have been to almost every spanish-speaking country there is, and so I may use more general spanish terminology than other people who have been mongering and posting for way fewer years than I have been.

It is always best to determine the age of your hookers [B]before[/B] bringing them to your room or being alone with them. And when I was at the Mansion, about ten years ago, I promise you they were not checking identification, and several other posters have verified that.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2144094]:confused: Don't the owners have anyone more attractive to fuck in Medellin?? After so many years living there, they MUST know the area better than any of us, and for sure know where to dig for jewels.
(why smileys are disabled here? I never understood this)[/QUOTE]I just got back and when I was there Robert has some girl I hadn't seen before in La Cueva. She was older (probably early 30's) and very, very sexy. She looked uncomfortable being there and she did not give off the air of being a puta.

I'm in Medellin now, poquito espanol. Dumb move, but I'm here, and have been reading the forum. I see several places titled casa Blanca or the Mansion. Don't have access to the images or PDF's in the list section. Can anyone pinpoint me to those two? Guess I'm about to get roasted, but kind of suck at this.

Full disclosure: I've never set foot in the place and I don't have any plans to do so. I throw out random comments because it's entertaining to see how worked up some guys get about the place. That is the part I really don't understand. I suppose I would be more emotionally invested if it were my home base.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2144112]The massage girls had an appointment book they had to log every massage in & a portion of each payment went back to the house. I heard this from one of the massage girls so whether it is true or not, I have no clue. But why would she lie about this.

The working girls, as far as I know, did not kick back any $$. Maybe poontang upon interviewing. Boyd sure does like to show off his pics of his trophies at the M2 on his fb page. Of course, none of this is discussed out in the open if it happens at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2144238]...There just aren't any cedulas that show a chick is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] because well you have to be 18 to even get a cedula.

Just exactly what year was it before chicks were required to be 18 and have a cedula at the mansion.

Because that was before my time.[/QUOTE]Maybe it how you define a cedula. Literally, it is an identification card. The citizens of Colombia do not have to be 18 to get an official, government issued identification card. I know for a fact that a person can get an identification card when they are 14. I don't know what the youngest age is to get one. A person must be 18 to get a "Cedula de Ciudadana", citizenship card.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2144320]Maybe it how you define a cedula. Literally, it is an identification card. The citizens of Colombia do not have to be 18 to get an official, government issued identification card. I know for a fact that a person can get an identification card when they are 13. I don't know what the youngest age is to get one.[/QUOTE]Minors get a contrasea.

And contrasea = minor.

But of course anyone that had actually lived in Colombo would have known this.

And the meaning of the term cedula.

I realize now Dickhead just hates the mansion and Im cool with that

But putting it out there that its a place where you can some how meet minors is really far from reality
Its the place you go when you want to make sure you dont meet or get involved with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] chicks

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2144287]Full disclosure: I've never set foot in the place and I don't have any plans to do so. I throw out random comments because it's entertaining to see how worked up some guys get about the place. That is the part I really don't understand. I suppose I would be more emotionally invested if it were my home base.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's funny. Stirring it up.

[QUOTE=RaoulDukey;2144278]I'm in Medellin now, poquito espanol. Dumb move, but I'm here, and have been reading the forum. I see several places titled casa Blanca or the Mansion. Don't have access to the images or PDF's in the list section. Can anyone pinpoint me to those two? Guess I'm about to get roasted, but kind of suck at this.[/QUOTE]Search Google for Hotel M Medellin. That will take you to their website. However, it's unlikely they have rooms available on short notice.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2144287]Full disclosure: I've never set foot in the place and I don't have any plans to do so. I throw out random comments because it's entertaining to see how worked up some guys get about the place. That is the part I really don't understand. I suppose I would be more emotionally invested if it were my home base.[/QUOTE]It is hilarious. If you love the Mansion, stay at the Mansion. If you hate the Mansion, don't go there. The same is true of casas, strip clubs, El Centro or Parque Lleras. Find what you like and do it. Let others find what they like and let them do it.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2144287]entertaining to see how worked up some guys get about the place. [/QUOTE]My response showed I was worked up? Uuhhh, ok. Sure!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2144482]It is hilarious. If you love the Mansion, stay at the Mansion. If you hate the Mansion, don't go there. The same is true of casas, strip clubs, El Centro or Parque Lleras. Find what you like and do it. Let others find what they like and let them do it.[/QUOTE]Excuse me Sir, but that makes too much sense! LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2144482]It is hilarious. If you love the Mansion, stay at the Mansion. If you hate the Mansion, don't go there. The same is true of casas, strip clubs, El Centro or Parque Lleras. Find what you like and do it. Let others find what they like and let them do it.[/QUOTE]This.

I don't understand why so many guys HATE the M. AFAIK, no one has been forced to spend money there if they didn't want to. There is actually another board that won't let you type the name of the place; if you type in the word "Mansion" the software automatically changes the name to a derogatory word! The hatred is REAL, LOL!

Hello,

I contacted the Mansion to book a room at end of March. They respond me how I knew about them. I just told them than on an adult forum. I do not know what response they were expecting, but then they just say, oh sorry We are full on your dates. Its ok I will look some other place then. , Just a comment in case other wants to book, not sure what is the most polite response maybe just point to their web page.

Hello,

On twitter I found a madame call Lou Reyes, Luisa Reyes, they have a really nice catalog of girls, more expensive, but really they look like super models, really beautiful girls. Have anyone had some experience with this agency?

[QUOTE=Chaman;2145086]Hello,

I contacted the Mansion to book a room at end of March. They respond me how I knew about them. I just told them than on an adult forum. I do not know what response they were expecting, but then they just say, oh sorry We are full on your dates. Its ok I will look some other place then. , Just a comment in case other wants to book, not sure what is the most polite response maybe just point to their web page.[/QUOTE]Your response had no effect on the availability of the room. They ask for marketing reasons. Every business should know where their customers come from, in other words whether it's a direct referral, from specific advertising, etc.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2145086]Hello,

I contacted the Mansion to book a room at end of March. They respond me how I knew about them. I just told them than on an adult forum. I do not know what response they were expecting, but then they just say, oh sorry We are full on your dates. Its ok I will look some other place then. , Just a comment in case other wants to book, not sure what is the most polite response maybe just point to their web page.[/QUOTE]That was a perfect response.

They just want to know that you know what type of hotel it is.

It isn't easy to get a room there unless you are booking months in advance.

It is best to book your room there first and then buy your ticket.

Or buy your ticket and book a room almost anyplace else, for less money, better service, and less chance of an invasive robbery.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2145393]Or buy your ticket and book a room almost anyplace else, for less money, better service, and less chance of an invasive robbery.[/QUOTE]You and Greg must have been close at one time.

I mean for him to hurt you the way he did.

What really happened between the two of you?

According to you, I never lived in or ever went to Colombia so I cordially suggest you go pound sand.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2145417]According to you, I never lived in or ever went to Colombia so I cordially suggest you go pound sand.[/QUOTE]I understand you are upset and in a lot of pain right now.

But lashing out isn't the answer.

When you are ready to talk about happened between you and Greg.

We are here to listen and help.

This is getting to be like the Oprah Winfrey show or Iyanla Fix my life. LMFAO!

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2145430]I understand you are upset and in a lot of pain right now.

But lashing out isn't the answer.

When you are ready to talk about happened between you and Greg.

We are here to listen and help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2145393]Or buy your ticket and book a room almost anyplace else, for less money, better service, and less chance of an invasive robbery.[/QUOTE]Really, the anti-Mansion rhetoric is silly.

If you don't like it (obvious), then don't stay there.

For newbies it's a great place, and for old timers that enjoy it, then that's their choice.

Anything further I have to say about this should go on the Mansion forum or Medellin Chit Chat, or you can PM for details about what a kunt Greg is.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2145472]Really, the anti-Mansion rhetoric is silly.

If you don't like it (obvious), then don't stay there.

For newbies it's a great place, and for old timers that enjoy it, then that's their choice.[/QUOTE]I agree with your last two sentences, but not the first. The negatives for staying at the Mansion have been verified by multiple members. When someone mentions staying at the Mansion listing the positives and omitting the negatives, they are doing a disservice to the readers. Let the facts speak for themselves and let everyone make their own decisions.

MG, I hope you are being sarcastic in your reply to DH, otherwise you have your own issues. DH is multiple IQ levels smarter than you, so you are foolish to try to play mental games with him.

[QUOTE=Combo;2141459]In this "business" the price quoted and the price agreed on are frequently quite different. Especially if she thinks or knows you're newbie, she'll throw out a crazy number thinking you might be naive enough to bite on it.[/QUOTE]I do short term from as low as exaggerated Taxi Fare (40 K) up to $120. For TLN same up to $200 K and that is start from 6 PM until the following AM and including 3 pops.

The thing is this usually includes food and drinks on my balcony and a decent night for them. If they want more $ they can find other guys, the ones coming down for a week who just don't have the time to set up something good from the opposite of a Facebook in demand hottie. Those will always charge more and turn down business if the price is below their minimum.

One thing that most will agree on is that living here over the years you just get a group of ex girlfriends / lovers / pootas-not-really-in-the-biz-anymore and your overall cost headaches, cancels, bad sex and occasional beúllshit just fades away. You being in the driver seat and cutting lose the drama beítches.

Leaving you with girls who want to hook up, an escape for the night away from home, make a few bucks like the old days. The ex girlfriends getting a 20 K-40 K exaggerated taxi fare also get gifts from the US, makeup, sneakers and stuff like that. Sex for most women down here, I believe, is just like kissing for a regular Western woman. The Latinas actually want to get laid and enjoy sex and don't use it as a weapon or some golden treasure that they can hold over men.

Granted some of the girls have been in my rotation for more than 10 years and are now mid to late 30's but I'm OK with that, the service is great, no strings attached, no headaches.

My point is the travelers not here for a while will need to shell out more cash.

I will be in mde March 15 for the first time, staying at m2. Hope to have a few if anyone is down.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2145363]That was a perfect response.

They just want to know that you know what type of hotel it is.

It isn't easy to get a room there unless you are booking months in advance.

It is best to book your room there first and then buy your ticket.[/QUOTE]I don't know all the behind-the-scenes drama that goes on (or rumors of drama), but the Mansion is responsible for my springboard gently into Colombia. Stayed there at least three times, even back when Greg was living there. I liked HMP 2 much better in terms of privacy (it is true that the first house can be like a frat house. Never bothered stayed there but would walk there for breakfast). On the weekend they would put on hot dog for the guests. La Cueva was a welcomed add-on and at times I would never go anywhere because I could find everything I wanted right there.

On my third trip I double booked at Mansion and an apartment with Barry. I dropped my bags off, took my carry on and went to the apartment. Never went back to my room until the last day of my trip. Boyd had gotten concerned something had happened to me because my luggage was in my room at HMP 2 for days, hahaha. But that was the last time I stayed there. I had just outgrown it. But I definitely would recommended it for newbies wanting to get a feel for Colombia the first time.

And to the newbie: yes! As MedellinGringo said, you need to book well in advance. Like at least 2-3 months out. Months like August will be full because of Feria de Las Flores. Same for any other big holidays there. They do really big parties during Halloween. Ask them to add you to their newsletter.

And I also agree that they asked you about how you heard about them because they want to make sure you are aware that it's not some couple’s retreat / BnB, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Dccpa;2145742]I agree with your last two sentences, but not the first. The negatives for staying at the Mansion have been verified by multiple members. When someone mentions staying at the Mansion listing the positives and omitting the negatives, they are doing a disservice to the readers. Let the facts speak for themselves and let everyone make their own decisions.[/QUOTE]True. Everyone has a different level of comfort in strange situations. However, my personal experience with Medellin is that I did okay just staying on "La Sententa" (or is it LOS Sententa), just a block off from the metro station. Not much English spoken there, but I got fed when I wanted to eat, and got there and back when I wanted to. A Farmacia at the end of block sold me a couple of boxes of "sildenafilo" despite my language barrier. Walked to Energia, "no problem" after dark. Also walked around and explored El Centro during the day. Not so easy finding Aifee and New Life on foot, until I took a cab (which was cheap). All in all, it was a fun experience even though I went by myself. Even hung out with a mature Canuck backpacker cheap for a few days, so I had some company too. The biggest challenge to me in Medellin, quite honestly, is finding food that is tasty instead of bland. That was a actually a factor in my choosing to go back to SE Asia before coming back to Colombia. But to my point, its not a hard town to get around in, and if you read the forum, and study the Monger Map, you should be in like flint.

Still there are those who really need to be in a controlled environment and have the prey dropped in front of them. There was the curious case of the remedial monger who identified himself as an "FKK Guy" who showed up in Pattaya and couldn't figure out who were the working girls. Really. He asked for help on the Patts forum and apparently a forum member staying in Patts had to go meet him and actually show him who he could pay for sex. I guess we all have our challenges. Some of us, not so much.

First of all, a big thanks to all the contributors.

This was my first trip to Medellin and I had a blast. This was made possible by the all the excellent suggestions I got from the forum.

Day 1- Friday night.

Landed Bogota. Exchanged money right after exiting customs. Excellent tip. I got the best rate there on the trip. It was 50 cop less than xe rate. Took the connection to Medellin and.

Landed on Friday night at 1 am. (Just an info for fellow Canadians that we have to pay 190 k cop fees=70 dollars for immigration card. Please leave enough time for connection as their is only 1 counter for Canadians) The Mansion driver was waiting at the exit. The ride was smooth and took 35 minutes in night. Charge 75 k. By the time I got settled and freshen up it was 2 am. Went to the cave downstairs. It was about to close. Only few chicas left at that hour. I picked a one immediately Name Vanessa. She looked pretty and had amazing eyes she looked voluptuous too. She quoted 250 k, I countered with 150 k but didn't go down than 200 k. I took her to the room. Lots of kissing, but once she took off the clothes, things were sagging. It was kind off a turn off to see her. But as I didn't had any action yet, was still ready, BBBJ was good, and wet. Finished off doggy style as she had nice ass. Damage 200 k. Rating 3/10. Wouldn't repeat / recommend.

The room was pretty good and shower too. The best thing I liked about Mansion was I felt safe the moment I entered there.

Day 2- Saturday.

Met fellows on breakfast and planned to go to new life at 1130 to New life casa. 2 of us took a uber to New Life. Thanks for tip that the Casa has blue door. Reached there by around 1215. It was packed with locals. Never go to casa on the pay day. It will be packed. Picked a girl named Melany. She had fake ones and great ass. Tip 2: if you really like somebody write their names and call for immediately. If she is really beautiful and you wait for another one, most probably somebody will take her. Melany was good. No kissing allowed. Upcharge for BBBJ. Damage 50 k / half hour + 30 k BBBJ. Rating 6/10. Repeat; no as she was on mature side in 30's.

Came back to hotel. In evening I arranged a date with Valentina zapata. I had contacted her through facebook prior to coming to Medellin. Thanks to one of contributors here who provided her name and info in one of previous posts. She is 20. And was very hot but innocent types. She was late by an hour. Very nice figure when clothes cane off. BBBJ and tried other multiple positions. Quite cooperative. Damage 150 k+ 30 k taxi + 20 k tip. Rating: 9/10. Repeat: yes.

After she left at around 9, walked to park lleares alone. 15 min walk from mansion. Park lleares is amazing party place. Filled with young college going kids. Lots of sw also.

Had dinner and then headed to Gusto for drinks. They had a cover charge of 10 k. Had couple of drinks there. There were probably 2-3 sw in Gusto at 1030 pm. Nothing exciting.

Come back to mansion and hit the cave. Found one hottie Jennifer. Took her to the room.

She was very cute and pretty but little bit on heavy side. Her eyes were hazel blue. Pics below. Again lots kissing but she kinda smelled funny. Once clothes came off. She is very aggressive. I liked it. Rating: 8/10. Damage 150 k + 20 k taxi.

Once I finished with her. Fellow called and asked if I wanted to go back to Gusto. Well I wanted to enjoy to fullest. So headed out with them back to park Lleras. Nothing eventful. Had couple of more drinks and came back to mansion.

Day 3-Sunday.

Woke up with a bad headache. May be drinks and lack of sleep and side effect of blue pill all combined. I had set up a date with Has leal friend of Valentina zapata. Again she was recommended by fellow here on board. I had to reschedule her to evening due to headache. Was kind a better in evening but I was drained. Has leal came on time. She has yummy figure. Around 24 years old. Bolted ones looked nice. Wet sloppy BBBJ and multiple positions. Went for 2 rounds. Second CIM. Felt good and totally drained by end of date. Rating 8/10.

To be continued.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2145828]True. Everyone has a different level of comfort in strange situations. However, my personal experience with Medellin is that I did okay just staying on "La Sententa" (or is it LOS Sententa), just a block off from the metro station. Not much English spoken there, but I got fed when I wanted to eat, and got there and back when I wanted to. A Farmacia at the end of block sold me a couple of boxes of "sildenafilo" despite my language barrier. Walked to Energia, "no problem" after dark. Also walked around and explored El Centro during the day. Not so easy finding Aifee and New Life on foot, until I took a cab (which was cheap). All in all, it was a fun experience even though I went by myself. Even hung out with a mature Canuck backpacker cheap for a few days, so I had some company too. The biggest challenge to me in Medellin, quite honestly, is finding food that is tasty instead of bland. That was a actually a factor in my choosing to go back to SE Asia before coming back to Colombia. But to my point, its not a hard town to get around in, and if you read the forum, and study the Monger Map, you should be in like flint.

Still there are those who really need to be in a controlled environment and have the prey dropped in front of them. There was the curious case of the remedial monger who identified himself as an "FKK Guy" who showed up in Pattaya and couldn't figure out who were the working girls. Really. He asked for help on the Patts forum and apparently a forum member staying in Patts had to go meet him and actually show him who he could pay for sex. I guess we all have our challenges. Some of us, not so much.[/QUOTE]Have you ever stayed at the Mansion?

It just surprises me that some guys can't see the advantage of being to able to meet many women on the fly. Without waiting for them. Paying for a taxi or being obligated to pay them for anything. Until you decide to fuck them. It is just such a huge time saver to be able to see a dozen or so women that you have on facebook without having to do a thing.

Of all the places I have gone and all the methods I have used to meet women. The Mansion has given me the highest percentage of GFE and women that I actually want to repeat with. And that happens in no small part to the environment and your ability to interact with the women before deciding to pull her.

Now there are guys that will tell you. Even some staying at the Mansion that it is over priced and that you get better value at the casas and renting an apartment.

And all I can tell you is that if you can't or aren't seeing a difference in the mansion women in the bedroom compared to casa chicks. Then the Mansion is not for you.

It is pretty obvious that some guys do not and will not ever be able to increase their odds of a GFE by interacting socially with women. And if that is the case then the Mansion is not for you. Let someone else have the room.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2145828]True. Everyone has a different level of comfort in strange situations. However, my personal experience with Medellin is that I did okay just staying on "La Sententa" (or is it LOS Sententa), just a block off from the metro station. Not much English spoken there, but I got fed when I wanted to eat, and got there and back when I wanted to. A Farmacia at the end of block sold me a couple of boxes of "sildenafilo" despite my language barrier. Walked to Energia, "no problem" after dark. Also walked around and explored El Centro during the day. Not so easy finding Aifee and New Life on foot, until I took a cab (which was cheap). All in all, it was a fun experience even though I went by myself. Even hung out with a mature Canuck backpacker cheap for a few days, so I had some company too. The biggest challenge to me in Medellin, quite honestly, is finding food that is tasty instead of bland. That was a actually a factor in my choosing to go back to SE Asia before coming back to Colombia. But to my point, its not a hard town to get around in, and if you read the forum, and study the Monger Map, you should be in like flint.

Still there are those who really need to be in a controlled environment and have the prey dropped in front of them. There was the curious case of the remedial monger who identified himself as an "FKK Guy" who showed up in Pattaya and couldn't figure out who were the working girls. Really. He asked for help on the Patts forum and apparently a forum member staying in Patts had to go meet him and actually show him who he could pay for sex. I guess we all have our challenges. Some of us, not so much.[/QUOTE]Love that last part! There are roughly 50,000 working girls in Pattaya at any given time. It's almost impossible to not come in contact with them.

Greetings guys,

Already posted a report of Bogota of the same trip in December. I'll keep it short because I'm sure that most of you already know most of this.

New Life: Went multiple times! Wow how gorgeous the women. Honestly, some real stunners. Every time I went there was a 9, and I feel like my metric is pretty good. Something for everyone. 30 k for 30 min. 45 k for 45 min and 60 k for 60 min. Great value, but don't quote me on the price. Service was great. Make sure to buy a water in the beginning and the owner or manager will like you. He keeps those girls behaving.

Fade Dos: Honestly tons of 9's, saw two 10's. 200-250 k for and hour. You can have fun here but drinks are pricey.

Maracaibo (Downtown): What an experience, not for the inexperienced. Same price as New Life but tough environment. Took the only sexy thing in the bar and I kid you not, walked under the bar's table in a limbo fashion. In the back of the bar there's a hallway, sketch as heck, there there's rooms. Alright for the prices. Got my monger stripes here LOL.

Tips: Use Uber. Cheap and safer than taxis.

PM for details.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2146013]Have you ever stayed at the Mansion?

It just surprises me that some guys can't see the advantage of being to able to meet many women on the fly. Without waiting for them. Paying for a taxi or being obligated to pay them for anything. Until you decide to fuck them. It is just such a huge time saver to be able to see a dozen or so women that you have on facebook without having to do a thing.

Of all the places I have gone and all the methods I have used to meet women. The Mansion has given me the highest percentage of GFE and women that I actually want to repeat with. And that happens in no small part to the environment and your ability to interact with the women before deciding to pull her.

Now there are guys that will tell you. Even some staying at the Mansion that it is over priced and that you get better value at the casas and renting an apartment.

And all I can tell you is that if you can't or aren't seeing a difference in the mansion women in the bedroom compared to casa chicks. Then the Mansion is not for you.

It is pretty obvious that some guys do not and will not ever be able to increase their odds of a GFE by interacting socially with women. And if that is the case then the Mansion is not for you. Let someone else have the room.[/QUOTE]One thing that is rarely talked about is the fact that a LOT of the guys at the Mansion have been going down to Colombia for many, many years and speak Spanish. I've even met guys who OWN apartments in town but occasionally like to get a room at the Mansion to meet some fresh girls and to shoot the shit with like minded gringos.

If you have never been there you will get the impression from reading the board that every guy in the Mansion is an awkward super newbie who can't speak one word of Spanish and couldn't find his ass if he used both hands.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2145946]First of all, a big thanks to all the contributors.

This was my first trip to Medellin and I had a blast. This was made possible by the all the excellent suggestions I got from the forum.

Day 1- Friday night.

Landed Bogota. Exchanged money right after exiting customs. Excellent tip. I got the best rate there on the trip. It was 50 cop less than xe rate. Took the connection to Medellin and.

Landed on Friday night at 1 am. (Just an info for fellow Canadians that we have to pay 190 k cop fees=70 dollars for immigration card. Please leave enough time for connection as their is only 1 counter for Canadians) The Mansion driver was waiting at the exit. The ride was smooth and took 35 minutes in night. Charge 75 k. By the time I got settled and freshen up it was 2 am. Went to the cave downstairs. It was about to close. Only few chicas left at that hour. I picked a one immediately Name Vanessa. She looked pretty and had amazing eyes she looked voluptuous too. She quoted 250 k, I countered with 150 k but didn't go down than 200 k. I took her to the room. Lots of kissing, but once she took off the clothes, things were sagging. It was kind off a turn off to see her. But as I didn't had any action yet, was still ready, BBBJ was good, and wet. Finished off doggy style as she had nice ass. Damage 200 k. Rating 3/10. Wouldn't repeat / recommend.

The room was pretty good and shower too. The best thing I liked about Mansion was I felt safe the moment I entered there.

Day 2- Saturday.

Met fellows on breakfast and planned to go to new life at 1130 to New life casa. 2 of us took a uber to New Life. Thanks for tip that the Casa has blue door. Reached there by around 1215. It was packed with locals. Never go to casa on the pay day. It will be packed. Picked a girl named Melany. She had fake ones and great ass. Tip 2: if you really like somebody write their names and call for immediately. If she is really beautiful and you wait for another one, most probably somebody will take her. Melany was good. No kissing allowed. Upcharge for BBBJ. Damage 50 k / half hour + 30 k BBBJ. Rating 6/10. Repeat; no as she was on mature side in 30's.

Came back to hotel. In evening I arranged a date with Valentina zapata. I had contacted her through facebook prior to coming to Medellin. Thanks to one of contributors here who provided her name and info in one of previous posts. She is 20. And was very hot but innocent types. She was late by an hour. Very nice figure when clothes cane off. BBBJ and tried other multiple positions. Quite cooperative. Damage 150 k+ 30 k taxi + 20 k tip. Rating: 9/10. Repeat: yes.

After she left at around 9, walked to park lleares alone. 15 min walk from mansion. Park lleares is amazing party place. Filled with young college going kids. Lots of sw also.

Had dinner and then headed to Gusto for drinks. They had a cover charge of 10 k. Had couple of drinks there. There were probably 2-3 sw in Gusto at 1030 pm. Nothing exciting.

Come back to mansion and hit the cave. Found one hottie Jennifer. Took her to the room.

She was very cute and pretty but little bit on heavy side. Her eyes were hazel blue. Pics below. Again lots kissing but she kinda smelled funny. Once clothes came off. She is very aggressive. I liked it. Rating: 8/10. Damage 150 k + 20 k taxi.

Once I finished with her. Fellow called and asked if I wanted to go back to Gusto. Well I wanted to enjoy to fullest. So headed out with them back to park Lleras. Nothing eventful. Had couple of more drinks and came back to mansion.

Day 3-Sunday.

Woke up with a bad headache. May be drinks and lack of sleep and side effect of blue pill all combined. I had set up a date with Has leal friend of Valentina zapata. Again she was recommended by fellow here on board. I had to reschedule her to evening due to headache. Was kind a better in evening but I was drained. Has leal came on time. She has yummy figure. Around 24 years old. Bolted ones looked nice. Wet sloppy BBBJ and multiple positions. Went for 2 rounds. Second CIM. Felt good and totally drained by end of date. Rating 8/10.

To be continued.[/QUOTE]Great report!

Has Leal is way nice which goes a long way with me (I'll take a nice 7 over a total [starts with a "B" and rhymes with "witch"] 9 any day of the week).

I think Gusto doesn't really get going until after 11 or even 11:30.

I landed turned on my Colombian cell and it says "Android is starting." and it never changes. Something happened.

Now I got to go buy a new cell. No biggie, but I lost all my contacts, ouch! I'm going to be in scramble mode this trip. I have many in FB so I will use messenger but some I don't remember how I met or thru whom.

Oh well, got to find some new ones.

Day 3-Sunday.

Woke up with a bad headache. May be drinks and lack of sleep and side effect of blue pill all combined. I had set up a date with Has leal friend of Valentina Zapata. Again she was recommended by fellow here on board. I had to reschedule her to evening due to headache. Was kind a better in evening but I was drained. Has leal came on time. She has yummy figure. Around 24 years old. Bolted ones looked nice. Wet sloppy BBBJ and multiple positions. Went for 2 rounds. Second CIM. Felt good and totally drained by end of date. Rating 8/10.

To be continued.

Day 3 Evening continued.

So after having Has Leal on day 3 evening. I decided to take it easy. I was staying at M2 for one night as they didn't had any availability in mansion. In the night around 11 pm decided to go to Cave at mansion and check out the scene. There were 5-6 chicks but one caught my eye. She was Ana amazing dancer. I asked her and she agreed for 150 k. Took her to M2. Had a sweet session with her. Sorry forgot her name and she said no pics. Good kissing and and she did work hard on the junior. Rating 8. 5/10. Damage 150 k + 20 k tip for taxi as it was already late. No rush and that's one thing I like about mansion girls. More GFE types.

Day 4-Monday.

Now the real fun begins.

After breakfast, decided to hit new life again. Took uber to the door. This time around it was very quite. Seemed like I was the only one. They did the parade. I liked a girl named Michel. Around 20 years old. She was very slim, dark exotic looking almost as Indian. Picked her up. Negotiated extras as BBBJ and lots of kissing for extra 30 k. Got a nice room at casa also this time. The girl was kinda shy but really tight down there. Had fun with her. Damage total 50 + 30 k for half an hour. Rating: solid 9/10. Asked her if she wanted to meet outside after work. She said that she will be very tired LOL.

In afternoon, I had invited a date I had set up thru facebook Sara. She is studying in medicine. Her pics on facebook were amazing and fun. She was on time at 3 pm. That's one thing that amazed me that most of the facebook girls actually arrived on time. I think it helped that I followed up regularly with them on messenger. She was a great girl. She was very chatty type and loved to dance. We put in some music in room and danced a bit. After that had a wonderful session with her. Very GFE. Lots of kissing. She said she is a part timer and doesn't do it often. I asked her if she has any friends that I can hook up with. She showed me lots of pics and I liked one of her cousin. I asked her to set up a date with her for next morning and she did. More on her later. Damage 200 k. Rating again solid 9/10.

By the time she left it was already 5 pm. I went out for some shopping and food. I had setup another date for night thru facebook vanee restrepo. Her name was Jacklyn. She came at around 930 pm. She was probably the most model looking type girl that I had. She works a para legal in one* of the local law firms. Around 22 years of age. More beautiful and cute than sexy. To me BBBJ is very important and she said no to that. That was a turn off. The girl tried a lot but may be after so much action. Junior was not on in the mood. So trying for an hour opted for massage instead. Most expensive date on the trip and no action LOL. Damage: 250 k for model looks. Repeat: no.

Day 5 Tuesday.

I had set up a date with the cousin of Sara day before with for 11 am and she showed up on time. This is where things gets interesting and why I am in love with Colombia. The girl is studying engineering and one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. The moment she steps in the room, she is full of energy. Her smile infectious, and beauty par excellence. I think its very important to have a nice conversation to have a good time and she spoke English pretty well (no more translator). We connected at multiple levels, danced a bit and had really long kiss. It lasted I think more than 5 minutes. I was completely blown away by this girl. I have read so much posts in this forum where people think they have found the one and I always thought earlier that how can somebody be so stupid to fell in love in with paid date. But with her I felt the same feeling, I think that feeling alone is worth the trip to Medellin. Anyways we had a great time together. We set up a date for next day morning again. Damage 150+ 50 k tip. Rating: perfect 10. Yes perfect 10. Repeat: yes. She didn't want her name to be disclosed nor her pics. May be I am also jealous to post her details here LOL, but it was that awesome.

In the evening around 6 pm picked up another girl from mansion Daniella. The girl is hot and sexy. Had a nice session with her. Rating:8. 5/10 damage: 150 k. Repeat: yes. But heart was still with morning girl.

Just relaxed that night. No more action.

Last part to be continued.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2146177]One thing that is rarely talked about is the fact that a LOT of the guys at the Mansion have been going down to Colombia for many, many years and speak Spanish. I've even met guys who OWN apartments in town but occasionally like to get a room at the Mansion to meet some fresh girls and to shoot the shit with like minded gringos.

If you have never been there you will get the impression from reading the board that every guy in the Mansion is an awkward super newbie who can't speak one word of Spanish and couldn't find his ass if he used both hands.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Mansion for the first time and I didn't meet any fellow who was a newbie. All the people I met at mansion were repeat and lots of them spoke fluent Spanish. Met few guys who have been coming from last 10 years. That says a lot about the place.

Day 6 Wednesday.

So this was my last day in Medellin.

I had invited the engineering girl for the morning. I really liked her and she came on time at 1030 am. We had breakfast together (10 k extra charge for 1 extra breakfast). Talked for a while and then hit the room. Again had an amazing session. Very rarely have I enjoyed a session with a repeat as much I did with her. I didn't want her to leave. We kept lying together for a long time. I really felt relaxed and in a happy place with her. This feeling itself raises the experience to a whole new level. She had to leave at 1 pm and I also had to check out. Said goodbye with a promise to see again.

Would be back soon. Love Colombia.

[QUOTE=JjWalker03;2146156]Maracaibo (Downtown): What an experience, not for the inexperienced. Same price as New Life but tough environment. Took the only sexy thing in the bar and I kid you not, walked under the bar's table in a limbo fashion. In the back of the bar there's a hallway, sketch as heck, there there's rooms. Alright for the prices. Got my monger stripes here LOL.[/QUOTE]Did the very same 'limbo dance'. But only the once. It's not that great, drinks are expensive (comparatively of course).

New Life is a class act. It really is. Every single girl I sessioned with there was excellent. They didn't seem jaded. And in fact, they seem as if they're not fully in the trade in working there. Some of them just do enough hours to finance themselves and switch back to their regular lives.

I certainly agree New Life is classy compared to Maracaibo and the other strip joints in Centro.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2147020]Did the very same 'limbo dance'. But only the once. It's not that great, drinks are expensive (comparatively of course).

New Life is a class act. It really is. Every single girl I sessioned with there was excellent. They didn't seem jaded. And in fact, they seem as if they're not fully in the trade in working there. Some of them just do enough hours to finance themselves and switch back to their regular lives.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Queens35;2146408]I landed turned on my Colombian cell and it says "Android is starting." and it never changes. Something happened.[/QUOTE]Did you try starting it in "Safe mode"? Sometimes a corrupted file is causing the problem. Safe mode is a skinny boot.

Hi folks,

Just wanted to give you an update. I stayed in Hampton Inn by Hilton as I was using my points. The hotel is somewhat new (a year old) and the taxi drivers did not know about it. This is in the building next to Rio Sur and right opposite Hard Rock Cafe. Here's the best part. The reception of the hotel is on 14th Floor. Therefore the hotel just has an elevator on the Ground floor. There is generally a security guy but he never bothered. I could bring in company and take her directly to my hotel room (The elevators work with the key card except the reception). Normally the guests are required to be registered per hotel policy. However. Because of the unique situation where reception is on 14th floor. It was extremely easy to get girls into the hotel.

More reports coming soon!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2146948]Day 6 Wednesday.

So this was my last day in Medellin.

I had invited the engineering girl for the morning. I really liked her and she came on time at 1030 am. We had breakfast together (10 k extra charge for 1 extra breakfast). Talked for a while and then hit the room. Again had an amazing session. Very rarely have I enjoyed a session with a repeat as much I did with her. I didn't want her to leave. We kept lying together for a long time. I really felt relaxed and in a happy place with her. This feeling itself raises the experience to a whole new level. She had to leave at 1 pm and I also had to check out. Said goodbye with a promise to see again.

Would be back soon. Love Colombia.[/QUOTE]Are these pictures of Sara?

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2146948]
Would be back soon. Love Colombia.[/QUOTE]The best thing about freelancers in Medellin, IMO, is that subsequent trips just get better. Now on your next trip you'll have a few contacts of girls you KNOW you'll have a good time with. And that list will grow every trip. Of course sometimes the girl you're really looking forward to disappears. Maybe she gets married, takes a break from P4 P, or maybe she just shuts off her Facebook and you don't know why. But there's always enough other girls so that you're guaranteed a few great sessions so a few bad sessions with new girls doesn't ruin your trip.

If you're willing to put in a little effort (learn some Spanish, curate a Facebook harem, etc), the rewards are great.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2147085]Are these pictures of Sara?[/QUOTE]One of them is. The girl lying on bed is Sarah.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2147033]I certainly agree New Life is classy compared to Maracaibo and the other strip joints in Centro.[/QUOTE]The obvious difference is at the strip clubs you can sit, chill and get to know a girl before choosing to have fun with her.

I enjoy that, much more than just the ‘line em up’ and choose and go.

I've met some real sweethearts that way, and have made cool frienships with some and have had some great OTC rendezvous.

To each their own of course.

I'm not just a point and shoot type of guy, I like to bond a bit, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2147305]The obvious difference is at the strip clubs you can sit, chill and get to know a girl before choosing to have fun with her.

I enjoy that, much more than just the line em up and choose and go.

I've met some real sweethearts that way, and have made cool frienships with some and have had some great OTC rendezvous.

To each their own of course.

I'm not just a point and shoot type of guy, I like to bond a bit, LOL.[/QUOTE]I 2nd that, not a big fan of picking a girls from a simple "hola".

Have had much better luck in the strip clubs talking to the girls 1st and gauging attitude.

And Maracaibo?! Why weren't you guys next door at BarraEjectiva instead? They have a lot more girls usually.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2147365]

And Maracaibo?! Why weren't you guys next door at BarraEjectiva instead? They have a lot more girls usually.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing, me and my bud always check out both bars, just have a beer and see which one has the girl that suits your needs.

TTM.

There is no chance of doing that at New Life. Some of the lower key casas (Paris, Zandaly, Yakuza, even Aiffe) will let you chat the girls up as long as you want if you buy a drink. Strip bar rules. The difference in the casas is you don't have to yell over the music, LOL!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2147305]The obvious difference is at the strip clubs you can sit, chill and get to know a girl before choosing to have fun with her.

I enjoy that, much more than just the line em up and choose and go.

I've met some real sweethearts that way, and have made cool frienships with some and have had some great OTC rendezvous.

To each their own of course.

I'm not just a point and shoot type of guy, I like to bond a bit, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2147393]The difference in the casas is you don't have to yell over the music, LOL![/QUOTE]No doubt, I've had to leave Conejitas because I was losing my voice. Bit quieter at the other 2.

Never be satisfied with your current chicas. It is good to have ones you have had a good time with, but sometimes the quality of service declines over time. This is not universal. I have some chicas that are still as good (or better) now as they were before. But I've also had some that have gotten a little lazy and spoiled. So always keep the pipline open and mix new girls with go-to girls.

[QUOTE=Richmond72;2147140]The best thing about freelancers in Medellin, IMO, is that subsequent trips just get better. Now on your next trip you'll have a few contacts of girls you KNOW you'll have a good time with. And that list will grow every trip. Of course sometimes the girl you're really looking forward to disappears. Maybe she gets married, takes a break from P4 P, or maybe she just shuts off her Facebook and you don't know why. But there's always enough other girls so that you're guaranteed a few great sessions so a few bad sessions with new girls doesn't ruin your trip.

If you're willing to put in a little effort (learn some Spanish, curate a Facebook harem, etc), the rewards are great.[/QUOTE]

If you have a regular who starts to slack off, let her know about it and "punish" her. For example, don't see her on your next trip (and let her know you are there). It does not work all of the time, but it's worked more often than not.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2147408]Never be satisfied with your current chicas. It is good to have ones you have had a good time with, but sometimes the quality of service declines over time. This is not universal. I have some chicas that are still as good (or better) now as they were before. But I've also had some that have gotten a little lazy and spoiled. So always keep the pipline open and mix new girls with go-to girls.[/QUOTE]

Heard about Barra Ejecutiva, but felt so out of my element in el Centro that didn't want to return LOL. Is the selection that much better? Honestly it seemed like the whole Centro was slummy. Although the experience as a whole was fun not going to lie, LOL. Especially the limbo, LOL. The scene seemed very narcos by the way, wouldn't be surprised if there were sicarios there.

Agree with everything said here.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2147393]There is no chance of doing that at New Life. Some of the lower key casas (Paris, Zandaly, Yakuza, even Aiffe) will let you chat the girls up as long as you want if you buy a drink. Strip bar rules. The difference in the casas is you don't have to yell over the music, LOL![/QUOTE]Well really, even at the low end casas as you say, it's not a chat them as long as you want thing.

They will get up and present themselves to newcomers, unless you commit to service of course.

I used to really enjoy the casas in Medellin, but that was before the days of the "Casa Map" and the huge influx of gringos to the scene.

Some guys base their entire trip now on the casas. Nothing wrong with that if that your thing.

However, it used to be like wow, there's a Gringo in the House.

Now it's like, oh just another Gringo. LOL.

Granted, the Strip clubs may have the same attitude, at least initially, however, for Spanish speaking guys with some personality, you can really size girls up and build a cool bond with them.

Just my experience and opinion of course.

Are these kind of girls one would find at Barra Ejecutiva?

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=905022109627850&set=a.248172305312837.62408.100003602090814&type=3&theater[/URL]

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2147230]One of them is. The girl lying on bed is Sarah.[/QUOTE]Amazing! You're the man.

Fantastic trip report. How much of your great trip do you ascribe to preparation and ho much to on the ground.

Learning and contacts?

Those girls seem amazing in many ways. Who are the other two pictures?

Wish you continued success in this. I am sure it won't be long before you are back. I sure would already be booking my trip back with that type of experience.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2147409]If you have a regular who starts to slack off, let her know about it and "punish" her. For example, don't see her on your next trip (and let her know you are there). It does not work all of the time, but it's worked more often than not.[/QUOTE]Come on man. There are hundreds more dudes meeting her the same way you did. You are not punishing anyone. This thing is cop and blow on both sides anyway. People come and they go. There is not a chick that stopped eating because a guy no longer comes around; there is not a dude that stopped fucking because a chick stopped coming around.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2147494]Come on man. There are hundreds more dudes meeting her the same way you did. You are not punishing anyone. [/QUOTE]Not to mention that she might consider a [I]relief[/I] what the dude meant to be a "punishment".... :D

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2147494]Come on man. There are hundreds more dudes meeting her the same way you did. You are not punishing anyone. This thing is cop and blow on both sides anyway. People come and they go. There is not a chick that stopped eating because a guy no longer comes around; there is not a dude that stopped fucking because a chick stopped coming around.[/QUOTE]If she's slacking off, she is just showing you it's a job. You're simply a guy who she fucks for money. She fucked you the first time for money and she'll fuck you next time for money, but frankly she has no interest in fucking you. She's getting nothing out of it except the money and she's questioning whether it's worth it.

If she's getting something out of the experience in addition to the money, she won't slack off. Maybe you make her laugh, or maybe she isn't faking all those orgasms.

It's hard to punish someone by not seeing them, when they don't want to see you.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2147481]Are these kind of girls one would find at Barra Ejecutiva?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=905022109627850&set=a.248172305312837.62408.100003602090814&type=3&theater[/URL][/QUOTE]No. 2 and no. 5 look trannies to me! :eek:

+1, this is real talk and good old fashioned common sense. OK, I get it that fantasy is part of the hobby but I think it's a bad idea to lose sight of what is fantasy and what is real. The Western Union crowd is a great example of why it's a bad idea.

The wise practice is to move on when the deal is no longer satisfying. Doing otherwise in an attempt to remind ourselves we are in control is in fact giving up control. Staying is like gutting out a bad marriage because the legal and alimony costs would be worse than the grind of living with somebody who makes you unhappy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2147494]Come on man. There are hundreds more dudes meeting her the same way you did. You are not punishing anyone. This thing is cop and blow on both sides anyway. People come and they go. There is not a chick that stopped eating because a guy no longer comes around; there is not a dude that stopped fucking because a chick stopped coming around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2147640]No. 2 and no. 5 look trannies to me! :eek:[/QUOTE]Definitely dudes. Those chicks do not work there. The chicks that work there don't sit around like that. They are usually standing on a wall or in front of the bar. I think they only sit when they are drinking with a customer. I don't think they have phones out either. I don't even think you can get a signal inside the place.

Some of these chicas obviously meet a lot of guys. Some not so many. But the point is that you show them that you notice there decline in service. So the choice is to either improve your game or find someone else. For me, for the most part, this has worked. The chicas ask me why I did not see them on my trip and I tell them. That said, I got to Medellin once a month, so my regular business is worth more to them than the gringo who shows up once or twice a year. But it's there choice.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2147494]Come on man. There are hundreds more dudes meeting her the same way you did. You are not punishing anyone. This thing is cop and blow on both sides anyway. People come and they go. There is not a chick that stopped eating because a guy no longer comes around; there is not a dude that stopped fucking because a chick stopped coming around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2147667]Definitely dudes. Those chicks do not work there. The chicks that work there don't sit around like that.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate, this will be my first trip to Colombia, just was starting to get disappointed before landing.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2147753]That said, I got to Medellin once a month, so my regular business is worth more to them than the gringo who shows up once or twice a year. But it's there choice.[/QUOTE]Lest you forget the even more regular business of the Colombians and gringos that actually live there! Did they lose any weight when you punished them?

Hello gentleman,

I am planning a mongering trip in June for my birthday and am so torn on where to go. I have been to Tijuana and Sosua and am considering those places, but as much as I like brand new pussy I like new places. I also think Colombian women are the most beautiful in the world. Do I have a lot to learn before venturing Medellin alone? Could I get a central hotel and walk to a lot of areas and have chicas come to me? I know I have a lot of studying to do of this forum but just wanted some general thoughts on Medellin compared to other areas. Thanks.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2147492]Amazing! You're the man.

Fantastic trip report. How much of your great trip do you ascribe to preparation and ho much to on the ground.

Learning and contacts?

Those girls seem amazing in many ways. Who are the other two pictures?

Wish you continued success in this. I am sure it won't be long before you are back. I sure would already be booking my trip back with that type of experience.[/QUOTE]LOL.

I seemed to be lucky on my first trip to be able to discover such semi pros or may be the medellin scene is like that.

I would say my success was 70% planning and research and 30 % on the ground there.

My advise would be to read as much as you can on this forum. Theres tonnes of good information and leads here. I got the few names from here and both the girls were awesome. Facebook game really helped. I spent countless hours on facebook.

And I do believe now if you have a decent Spanish (which I don't) then your experience can be at a completely different level. Wish that you also find what you looking for.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2146948]Love Colombia.[/QUOTE]Fantastic report and photos. You have inspired me to spread my wings south of the border. Your time and effort is greatly appreciated at least by this monster.

[QUOTE=StripperLove;2148129]Hello gentleman,
I am planning a mongering trip in June for my birthday and am so torn on where to go. ... Do I have a lot to learn before venturing Medellin alone? Could I get a central hotel and walk to a lot of areas and have chicas come to me? I know I have a lot of studying to do of this forum but just wanted some general thoughts on Medellin compared to other areas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should have no problem going to Medellin alone, especially since you have enough time to make some Facebook friends before you go. I can't recommend staying in the downtown area on your first visit. That would be pretty much a daytime only venture for you. Stay in Poblado, near Parque Lleras. That area is safe day and night. You will pay a little more than downtown for almost everything, but it's still fairly inexpensive. A taxi from Poblado to downtown is $3 or $4. If you want to stay among locals (like downtown), stay in Laureles-Estadio. You can take the Metro from there to downtown for less than $1. Laureles is also safe.

Get a chica-friendly hotel room or apartment and the ladies will come to you. Almost all the working ladies have friends who are also looking for nice guys. Just ask them to recommend some of their friends. I think you will find that Medellin compares favorably to any modern city, and better than most.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]\
Medellin is different from other places I've been to and the Mansion itself is a surreal place within a much larger pussy paradise.![/QUOTE]As alway Tasss, an above and beyond effort at providing clear and helpful road trip report. Thank you for all the hard work and effort you put in creating this Medellin guide for newbies.

[QUOTE=StripperLove;2148129]I have been to Tijuana and Sosua... Do I have a lot to learn before venturing Medellin alone? Could I get a central hotel[/QUOTE]If you have been to Tijuana, I don't think you will have any problem staying in downtown Medellin.

I thought I saw this mentioned before, but is there a way to activate an old SIM card bought in Colombia online?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2148324]I thought I saw this mentioned before, but is there a way to activate an old SIM card bought in Colombia online?[/QUOTE]I have a very old SIM card, which I bough more than 5 years ago and I have been using so long, without problems except that each time I had to top it up again on my first day in Colombia. From one stay to the next one, some times there was even one year. When not many months passed since the last use, I even recovered the original credit.

Anyone knows what will happen when I will try to use it again on my next visit? Will it be still active, as it follows "Old Golden Rules"? Or will I have to activate it? I am really pissed off.

Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]1) GTFO of EL Poblado. You need to be where the "casas de cita" are, not where the trendy tourists and affluent Colombians are.

2) Consult the Medellin Monger Map.

3) Read the forum. It should tell you all you need to know.

Note, I was 58 the last time I was there, new to mongering in LA, and I spoke maybe five words of Spanish. I didn't get anywhere near Lleras. But, I had a great time, had as much pussy as I could handle and didn't even get to explore a tenth of the mongering options. You can have a great time, too. Just use your resources and you should do just as well. PM if you need some suggestions.

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

I would peruse the board for any guys who are also there right now and send them a PM asking if they'd like to meet up and offer tips or be a tour guide. In exchange you can pick up dinner, a few rounds at Beer Store or MBF or even pay for the ST for a guy who really helps you out.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2145828]True. Everyone has a different level of comfort in strange situations. However, my personal experience with Medellin is that I did okay just staying on "La Sententa" (or is it LOS Sententa), just a block off from the metro station. Not much English spoken there, but I got fed when I wanted to eat, and got there and back when I wanted to. A Farmacia at the end of block sold me a couple of boxes of "sildenafilo" despite my language barrier. Walked to Energia, "no problem" after dark. Also walked around and explored El Centro during the day. Not so easy finding Aifee and New Life on foot, until I took a cab (which was cheap). All in all, it was a fun experience even though I went by myself. Even hung out with a mature Canuck backpacker cheap for a few days, so I had some company too. The biggest challenge to me in Medellin, quite honestly, is finding food that is tasty instead of bland. That was a actually a factor in my choosing to go back to SE Asia before coming back to Colombia. But to my point, its not a hard town to get around in, and if you read the forum, and study the Monger Map, you should be in like flint. Still there are those who really need to be in a controlled environment and have the prey dropped in front of them. There was the curious case of the remedial monger who identified himself as an "FKK Guy" who showed up in Pattaya and couldn't figure out who were the working girls. Really. He asked for help on the Patts forum and apparently a forum member staying in Patts had to go meet him and actually show him who he could pay for sex. I guess we all have our challenges. Some of us, not so much.[/QUOTE]I travelled solo last year, first time to Colombia and got an apartment through pobladorentals in Poblado. Taxis are cheap. I had good experience in take-outs, two shots each time. With Casas, it is a hit or a miss. Some were good and some just lay there like dead fish. Had no problem finding places in Centro and other parts of the city. Mansion may be ok for those who dare not venture out and I am not one of them. I agree with lack of variety in food. Could get bored in a week. I had to eat some street food at times than the bland offerings. My only gripe about Colombia. Now that a lot of Venezuelans are in the country, the take in or take out rates could go down.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2148571]I would peruse the board for any guys who are also there right now and send them a PM asking if they'd like to meet up...[/QUOTE]PM? Hmmm. These are the times when one discovers why to invest those few bucks in an ISG membership.

Nice report, I think you captured the scene well. There is a good variety of food in Medellin as long as you stay away from the Colombian restaurants. That is much harder to do in Centro than in Poblado and Laureles. Peruvian and Peruvian fusion have been super popular the last few years. There is good variety on the Provenza strip and around Laureles.

By take-outs did you mean girls from the strip clubs or facebook girls? I agree with what you said about the casas. I notice even the same girl who is lackluster in the casa performs better when you get her out on the side.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2148618]I travelled solo last year, first time to Colombia and got an apartment through pobladorentals in Poblado. Taxis are cheap. I had good experience in take-outs, two shots each time. With Casas, it is a hit or a miss. Some were good and some just lay there like dead fish. Had no problem finding places in Centro and other parts of the city. Mansion may be ok for those who dare not venture out and I am not one of them. I agree with lack of variety in food. Could get bored in a week. I had to eat some street food at times than the bland offerings. My only gripe about Colombia. Now that a lot of Venezuelans are in the country, the take in or take out rates could go down.[/QUOTE]

I have been to a few of the massage places in Laureles, not very expensive uber trip under $3. Tantra massage and Energy (the one accross from the stadium) is good but a little more expensive, but has more girls.

There are online girls (mileroticos or Photoprepagos) but if your place is not GF then a love motel is a good option but with your little Spanish might be a challenge. Try getting an online lady on Whatsapp and use the translator. See if she can meet at a love motel and get the address, take a taxi / uber and stay in touch. Then confirm when she is there and go inside to meet her. The rooms are pretty cheap under $40 K COP.

Or try and meet up with someone on this board.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

I decided to pay the $90 for a month of SA and have made many contacts some really hot and some just so so but 2 speak fluent english. I think it will pay for itself if I find one gem that is not a hardened PRO.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2148622]PM? Hmmm. These are the times when one discovers why to invest those few bucks in an ISG membership.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

Does anyone know if girls charge a fee if you do not want to stay. I mean if you make an arrangement to meet her at her place, but once you are there and don't meet you expectation, do they charge a fee for cancelling?

I mean none of the girls show their faces, so maybe once there you don't want to stay.

Also I have seen that photosprepagos girls if you search for the number on that page or on google I usually find there are several girls working on the same apartment.

I think you don't have on the Casas de citas, I think I read some casa was charging 2 K pesos, like a dollar, so it is that is ok.

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I am going in two weeks, had never gone before, but this is my plan, I want to try a little of everything base on what I have read on this forum.

- Strip clubs, want to visit one of Luna Lunera, Fase dos or la Isla, at the moment luna lunera is the only one with photos on their web site and some videos on youtube, so I may know what to expect, but I heard the others maybe better. Also there is San Diego Grill, not much information on this, and at centro Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, but I will pass on those at centro.

- Casa Massage, I want to visit at least one of each level, I have read that maybe the top level is Loutron, then choose one of Energy, Secret Spa or Tantra, and then one of at Centro New Life, Abbydos or one of the casas at Laureles that show on MilEroticos.

- I would like to look for one call out girl at Photo Prepagos or some other site like that ([URL]dollclub.co[/URL] and [URL]www.prepagos1000.co[/URL] seems to have some nice girls but maybe expensive).

- I want to look for some freelance action at Parque Lerras (Bar Gusto or Dulce Jesus Mio).

- I have not louck on FB or Tinder, on tinder I found one that was a prepago, but the girls on prepagos sites had better looks. Altougth this one offered 2 girls, 4 hours for 300 K 2 pops each.

Also any advise from fellow mongers is welcome.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2148628]Nice report, I think you captured the scene well. There is a good variety of food in Medellin as long as you stay away from the Colombian restaurants. That is much harder to do in Centro than in Poblado and Laureles. Peruvian and Peruvian fusion have been super popular the last few years. There is good variety on the Provenza strip and around Laureles.

By take-outs did you mean girls from the strip clubs or facebook girls? I agree with what you said about the casas. I notice even the same girl who is lackluster in the casa performs better when you get her out on the side.[/QUOTE]Strip clubs, Facebook, other online publications and the one I have used [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL] worked well for me. With mileroticos, I only found one gal who just did look like the pictures and had a lot of fat and curves in the wrong place. I just left her place. One was an animal. She could not get enough sex and I had her for all night. She fucked me, not the other way around, throwing me and my legs in different positions! I was exhausted half way through the night and called for intermission and check to see if I still had my dick or she gobbled it. She would do anything from BBBJ, bare virginal and anal fucking. I had made a mistake as I had another gal in the morning and the night gal just fucked me all night long. It was a different experience. I would have her again but not have a gal night before and the morning! Another girl just stayed for hours and swimming in the pool and I just paid for an hour. She had no issues.

If it is way over a year, it most likely it will not work, because someone else now has the number.
And you may end adding money to their phone.
They don't cost that much, get a new one.

But, I did have one that was still okay after one year in Buenos Aires. That was a Movistar card.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2148324]I thought I saw this mentioned before, but is there a way to activate an old SIM card bought in Colombia online?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]At night I'd tell the cabbie to take me to Fase II strip club, 190 k on site, nice rooms, sit at bar if you don't want to spend 120 k+ on bottle service, opens at 9, busy past 11.

[QUOTE=StripperLove;2148129]Hello gentleman,

I am planning a mongering trip in June for my birthday and am so torn on where to go. I have been to Tijuana and Sosua and am considering those places, but as much as I like brand new pussy I like new places. I also think Colombian women are the most beautiful in the world. Do I have a lot to learn before venturing Medellin alone? Could I get a central hotel and walk to a lot of areas and have chicas come to me? I know I have a lot of studying to do of this forum but just wanted some general thoughts on Medellin compared to other areas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The nice thing about Centro is you can get a hotel right between 3 strip clubs / brothels you can walk a block to at night and hit Casa's or street scene in day, then cab to Hi end strip clubs when you want more eye candy at night.

[QUOTE=HammockShark;2148507]Early thirties, with terrible Spanish and a total novice in international mongering.

I am currently in the Parque Lleras area and not in a chica friendly hotel.

Anyone have any tips on how best to spend my time here?

Where to go? What to expect when I get there?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Change hotels to a chica friendly one, then have fun.

Anyone have any luck with this Colombian Cupid? The girls are so weird / flakey. I'll get quick responses to messages, then they just disappear. One girl's profile just vanished after a few messages, others stop responding to messages. FYI -- I've been telling them that I back and forth between Medellin and the US, but that I'm getting ready to move to Medellin full-time. I also move pretty quickly to "give me your phone number" (don't like to dick around with a lot of messages on the site) maybe that scares them off.

Getting ready to just close my account with the site, seems like a big waste of time. Curious what you all have experienced.

SL.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2148938]Change hotels to a chica friendly one, then have fun.[/QUOTE]What is the difference on chica friendly hotels I book on internet.

Will stay at torre Poblado some days then move to Lincoln, but I reserve double room, can I register the girl one day and other next or they won't allow?

Any reference of chica friendly hotels?

[QUOTE=StripperLove;2148129]Hello gentleman,

I am planning a mongering trip in June for my birthday and am so torn on where to go. I have been to Tijuana and Sosua and am considering those places, but as much as I like brand new pussy I like new places. I also think Colombian women are the most beautiful in the world. Do I have a lot to learn before venturing Medellin alone? Could I get a central hotel and walk to a lot of areas and have chicas come to me? I know I have a lot of studying to do of this forum but just wanted some general thoughts on Medellin compared to other areas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Tijuana or Sosua, but have mongered in many places across the globe. Medellin is my favorite place. The woman are beautiful and GFE is everywhere. Much better than most places I've been. I would make a little investment in a Colombian Cupid membership a month before I went. Make contact with any that catches you eye. Text them, get their whatsapp number and set everything up. Right down to what services expected and how much. There are other sights, but this has worked like a charm for me in Medellin. Parque LLeras is a nice place to stay in the Poblado neighborhood of Medellin. Parque Lleras is hoping at night and you can pick up chicas right off the street. I think its a pretty safe place to stay. If you are more hard core, you can look at Centro. Taxi's are cheap and can take you anywhere. The chicas will come to you if you ask. Everyone I contacted did. You just need to give them a little taxi money to defray the costs.

Again, I can't comment on Sosua or Tijuana, but Medellin is top notch, you will be happy if you choose to go there. I know a great guide in Medellin. He can show you the city and surrounding areas if you like to explore. I love to monger, but I do love to explore the local cultures while I'm there. Get out and do the things that tourist don't do and experience it like a local as much as you can.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2148676]Strip clubs, Facebook, other online publications and the one I have used [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL] worked well for me. With mileroticos, I only found one gal who just did look like the pictures and had a lot of fat and curves in the wrong place. I just left her place. One was an animal. She could not get enough sex and I had her for all night. She fucked me, not the other way around, throwing me and my legs in different positions! I was exhausted half way through the night and called for intermission and check to see if I still had my dick or she gobbled it. She would do anything from BBBJ, bare virginal and anal fucking. I had made a mistake as I had another gal in the morning and the night gal just fucked me all night long. It was a different experience. I would have her again but not have a gal night before and the morning! Another girl just stayed for hours and swimming in the pool and I just paid for an hour. She had no issues.[/QUOTE]I hate to be THAT guy but do you happen to have Ms. Nympho's contact info? (PM me if you'd like).

Only comment is to skip The Secret, use Energy or Tantra. I have been to secret twice and never had much more than 2 girls and overpriced, charge to do nude massage, where at the other 2 place they will ask for a upcharge for BBBJ but will be without clothes.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2148664]I am going in two weeks, had never gone before, but this is my plan, I want to try a little of everything base on what I have read on this forum.

- Strip clubs, want to visit one of Luna Lunera, Fase dos or la Isla, at the moment luna lunera is the only one with photos on their web site and some videos on youtube, so I may know what to expect, but I heard the others maybe better. Also there is San Diego Grill, not much information on this, and at centro Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, but I will pass on those at centro.

- Casa Massage, I want to visit at least one of each level, I have read that maybe the top level is Loutron, then choose one of Energy, Secret Spa or Tantra, and then one of at Centro New Life, Abbydos or one of the casas at Laureles that show on MilEroticos.

- I would like to look for one call out girl at Photo Prepagos or some other site like that ([URL]dollclub.co[/URL] and [URL]www.prepagos1000.co[/URL] seems to have some nice girls but maybe expensive).

- I want to look for some freelance action at Parque Lerras (Bar Gusto or Dulce Jesus Mio).

- I have not louck on FB or Tinder, on tinder I found one that was a prepago, but the girls on prepagos sites had better looks. Altougth this one offered 2 girls, 4 hours for 300 K 2 pops each.

Also any advise from fellow mongers is welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2148865]If it is way over a year, it most likely it will not work, because someone else now has the number.
And you may end adding money to their phone.
They don't cost that much, get a new one.

But, I did have one that was still okay after one year in Buenos Aires. That was a Movistar card.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Someone linked to a website once that they said they would use to top up before trips. Maybe not an option any more (the website at the time I visited it did not seem to be put together well).

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Lou32;2149074]I hate to be THAT guy but do you happen to have Ms. Nympho's contact info? (PM me if you'd like).[/QUOTE]I had a few requests for the contact numbers. I broke not one but two phones while I was in Colombia and lost contacts. I will have to start all over again next time I am in Colombia. I looked at my tablet and found a few pictures I hope you'll enjoy. The last girl looking at the phone is sex machine. Really bad girl.lol

[QUOTE=Chaman;2148664]I am going in two weeks, had never gone before, but this is my plan, I want to try a little of everything base on what I have read on this forum.

- Strip clubs, want to visit one of Luna Lunera, Fase dos or la Isla, at the moment luna lunera is the only one with photos on their web site and some videos on youtube, so I may know what to expect, but I heard the others maybe better. Also there is San Diego Grill, not much information on this, and at centro Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, but I will pass on those at centro.

- Casa Massage, I want to visit at least one of each level, I have read that maybe the top level is Loutron, then choose one of Energy, Secret Spa or Tantra, and then one of at Centro New Life, Abbydos or one of the casas at Laureles that show on MilEroticos..[/QUOTE]Strip clubs. Luna Lunera or Fase II. Price is about the same in either, bigger selection in Fase II. La Isla if you just have too much money to spend.

Casas / Massage. Secret Spa is a waste of time. Abydos appears to be closed. Try Energy or Tantra. For casas, New Life has the best facilities and usually the biggest lineup. Sexy Amigas has some quality girls. Haven't been in the others recently.

Freelance at Lleras. Most of the clubs will have freelancers, especially late Friday and Saturday nights. You can also find several working the park and the surrounding streets.

You're going to be hit or miss with the girls from ad sites. Facebook is a better option.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2149132]I broke not one but two phones while I was in Colombia and lost contacts.[/QUOTE]I keep all my contacts on the SIM card. It's easy to break a phone, but almost impossible to destroy a SIM, unless you want it.

When one expires, I move all contacts to the phone, then back to the new one. I keep many SIM cards, one from each country I visit, in the plastic envelopes where I also keep the remaining local currency for the next travel or for never, one envelope for each country.

I have been here since Sunday, I speak Spanish fluently. Its actually all good and reminds me a lot of Bayamon PR. If you can handle yourself in the big cities of PR & you do nothing stupid. Life is good!

[QUOTE=Chaman;2149035]What is the difference on chica friendly hotels I book on internet.

Will stay at torre Poblado some days then move to Lincoln, but I reserve double room, can I register the girl one day and other next or they won't allow?

Any reference of chica friendly hotels?[/QUOTE]I don't stay in hotels, only apartments, but the reports on this site say Hotel Torre Poblado is chica friendly. You "register" the lady when she comes to visit you. She checks in at the front desk, and may have to leave her ID until she leaves. I think Torre will allow you to have as many visitors as you want, just one at a time.

When looking for hotels, send them a message and ask if local visitors are allowed, and if there is an additional charge for visitors.

One thing to keep in mind, remind the ladies to bring their ID (cedula) when they come to visit you.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2149132]I broke not one but two phones while I was in Colombia and lost contacts. I will have to start all over again next time I am in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I keep my contacts in my gmail account. When I change phones, or if I lose a phone, all I have to do is sync my contacts on the new phone and everything is there.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2149270]I keep all my contacts on the SIM card. It's easy to break a phone, but almost impossible to destroy a SIM, unless you want it.

When one expires, I move all contacts to the phone, then back to the new one. I keep many SIM cards, one from each country I visit, in the plastic envelopes where I also keep the remaining local currency for the next travel or for never, one envelope for each country.[/QUOTE]But if you lose the phone or it is stolen you are fukkked. Gmail, Icloud, etc. You will never lose anything.

I just spent 3 days in Medellin, and I want to thank everyone on this forum for the great advice. Here are my ratings of the locations I visited:

Energy.

Girls: 8 (about 15 girls present. Mostly 8's with one or two 9's. Many tall girls that day for some reason, no spinners. Alot of plastic.).

Service: 8 (oral with condom and no kissing from the girl I selected, but she gave a professional massage and was very much into the experience. 125,000 for 30 min).

Facilities: 10.

Neighborhood: 8.

Tantra.

Girls: 8 (about 8 girls, mostly 8's with one or two 9's. Some nice spinners and many busty girls, some real some enhanced).

Service: 7 (oral with condom and no kissing from the girls I visited there. Gave OK massages if asked to do so. They seemed to be into the experience. 85,000 for 30 min).

Facilities: 9.

Neighborhood: 9.

New Life.

Girls: 7 (about 15 girls, mostly 7's with a few 8's, no 9's or 10's in my opinion. Variety of shapes, not much plastic. Got there early at 10:30 on a Friday and was the one of two clients there.).

Service: 7 (oral with condom and no kissing from the girl I visited there. Gave good massage after being asked to do so. They seemed to be somewhat into the experience. 45,000 for 30 min).

Facilities: 3 (Not a nice place compared to Energy and Tantra. Old facilities, tiny rooms, no new sheet on bed for each client. Real turnoff for me.).

Neighborhood: 4 (If you have to travel to El Centro from another neighborhood, there's a lot of traffic, and it's not the nicest area in town).

Club de Amigas Sexy ([URL]amigassexy.com[/URL]).

Girls: 7 (about 15 girls, mostly 7's with a few 8's, no 9's or 10's. Variety of shapes, one or two spinners, not much plastic. Got there early at 1 pm on a Saturday and it was really busy by 1:30 pm).

Service: 7 (oral with condom and no kissing from the girl I visited there. Didn't ask for a massage. She didn't seem to be too into the experience, but OK performance).

Facilities: 4 (Much nicer facilities than New Life, not as nice as Energy or Tantra).

Neighborhood: 4 (If you have to travel to El Centro from another neighborhood, there's a lot of traffic, and it's not the nicest area in town).

Fase II.

Girls: 8 (about 30 girls on Thursday night at midnight, mostly 8's with one or two 9's and 10's. Nice variety, a lot of plastic.).

Service: Unknown (was spent from my escapades earlier in the day. Saw one 10 that was very tempting).

Facilities: Unknown (medium sized, nice club. Unknown bedroom facilities).

Neighborhood: 7 (OK warehouse neighborhood, 8 minutes max from Poblado).

Overall, I wasn't impressed with the Centro casas. The hassle of travel from Poblado, the mediocre quality of the girls, and the unimpressive quality of the facilities and neighborhood outweigh the benefit of the cheaper cost for me. Next time, I'll be sticking to Energy, Tantra and Fase II.

Well the mansion is booked, both houses. 3 months in advance. My Spanish is bad. Though, not non existent. I have spent about a month in Sosua and Jaco, over the past 9 months. So I picked up some, and can communicate (and flirt) with good old fashion google translate. I always travel solo, as it pretty much makes the experience so much better. Except Jaco. Jaco sucks.

Would Cartagena be better because of the tourism factor?

I am opting for a nice airbnb with a sick view.

You can use etopuponline. Com or ezetop. Com to recharge prepaid mobile with any Colombian carrier as well as dozens of other countries. There is a small convenience charge.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2149120]Thanks for the info. Someone linked to a website once that they said they would use to top up before trips. Maybe not an option any more (the website at the time I visited it did not seem to be put together well).

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Hello,

Very good information shared on this site.

Would like to ask if anyone knows what is this place.

[URL]https://www.guiacereza.com/guia-sitios/medellin/item/discoteca-prizma[/URL]

Maybe just a normal nigth club, but is listed on a site more related to services and massages, so would like to ask if anyone have gone what can be expected, maybe at least some freelance girls there.

If oral with condom and no kissing is a 7 or an 8 for service, what's a 3?

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2149695]If oral with condom and no kissing is a 7 or an 8 for service, what's a 3?[/QUOTE]Being spat on by the chica and then beaten up and robbed by the pimp.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2149720]Being spat on by the chica and then beaten up and robbed by the pimp.[/QUOTE]Man, that happened to you too? I gave that a 4. But I am an easy grader.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2149532]You can use etopuponline. Com or ezetop. Com to recharge prepaid mobile with any Colombian carrier as well as dozens of other countries. There is a small convenience charge.[/QUOTE]Is this just talk minutes? Is there a way to add data to my phone prior to landing in mde? Will need whatsapp so that is why I want data.

Anyone have any help on what are some chica friendly apartments or hotels with rooftop pools?

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2149890]Is this just talk minutes? Is there a way to add data to my phone prior to landing in mde? Will need whatsapp so that is why I want data.[/QUOTE]Depends on your provider, but usually a package includes data, text and voice. Claro and others also give free Whatsapp, Facebook and Twitter as long as your phone has service.

Saw some girls advertising there on Tinder. What is the haps?

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2149528]Well the mansion is booked, both houses. 3 months in advance. My Spanish is bad. Though, not non existent. I have spent about a month in Sosua and Jaco, over the past 9 months. So I picked up some, and can communicate (and flirt) with good old fashion google translate. I always travel solo, as it pretty much makes the experience so much better. Except Jaco. Jaco sucks.

Would Cartagena be better because of the tourism factor?

I am opting for a nice airbnb with a sick view.[/QUOTE]Are you going to skip Medellín because you can't stay at the Mansion??

Here is a thought I came up with, I am going to say that I teach English on the side and I got a couple ESL books from the library. This way if the owner / manager asks I am going to tell them that they are students that I am teaching for an hour or two. It is not fool proof and if the chicas dress like putas then it won't work. I am arriving in MDE tomorrow and staying at an Airbnb, never asked about chica policy since the place is listed by a woman. A couple of the girls from SA are studying English and I told them I would help them with English.

So any feedback to my idea would be appreciated, the place I am staying is 3 story apt building so I do not think it has a porter.

That dog won't hunt.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2149967]Here is a thought I came up with, I am going to say that I teach English on the side and I got a couple ESL books from the library. This way if the owner / manager asks I am going to tell them that they are students that I am teaching for an hour or two. It is not fool proof and if the chicas dress like putas then it won't work. I am arriving in MDE tomorrow and staying at an Airbnb, never asked about chica policy since the place is listed by a woman. A couple of the girls from SA are studying English and I told them I would help them with English.

So any feedback to my idea would be appreciated, the place I am staying is 3 story apt building so I do not think it has a porter.[/QUOTE]

Wow, the thought of an affirmative answer to this question made my jaw drop.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2149954]Are you going to skip Medelln because you can't stay at the Mansion??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2149967]
So any feedback to my idea would be appreciated, the place I am staying is 3 story apt building so I do not think it has a porter.[/QUOTE]You can just ask if you are allowed to bring back dates. That's what I do on airbnb. The owners either won't allow it or don't care. Protip: the businesses usually don't care as long as you follow the building rules. Usually one chica at a time is completely fine and the security guard lets you know he registers them for your protection.

You just got to ask!

If you have a balance on your account you can add any of the many package combinations available. You can add to your balance from anywhere over the Internet but you have to be in Colombia to make rate plan changes from the phone, or if you are outside the country you can call the carrier to make changes over the phone. The exception is roaming, you can activate or deactivate roaming form the phone wherever you are. Enjoy your trip!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2149914]Depends on your provider, but usually a package includes data, text and voice. Claro and others also give free Whatsapp, Facebook and Twitter as long as your phone has service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2149967]... I am arriving in MDE tomorrow and staying at an Airbnb, never asked about chica policy since the place is listed by a woman. A couple of the girls from SA are studying English and I told them I would help them with English.

... the place I am staying is 3 story apt building so I do not think it has a porter.[/QUOTE]If there is nothing in the listing prohibiting visitors, and there is no porter, it's a fairly safe bet that visitors are allowed. Not always, though. One place I stayed had a roaming "security" guy on the street. I am fairly sure he informed the apartment owner about my visitors.

If visitors are prohibited, your plan of the ESL lessons will not fly.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2149954]Are you going to skip Medelln because you can't stay at the Mansion??[/QUOTE]No. ID prefer an apartment. Everyone just keeps saying stay there if you don't speak the language.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2149035]What is the difference on chica friendly hotels I book on internet.
Will stay at torre Poblado some days then move to Lincoln, but I reserve double room, can I register the girl one day and other next or they won't allow?[/QUOTE]Torre poblado 'should' be ok because you booked for 2 people. Last time I stayed there, I brought in different girls everyday for a week. One the 3rd night, the evening desk guy TRIED to charge me for the girl. I told him, in a nice way, check my reservation because I reserved for 2 people. He checked and tried to explain about a new policy for the hotels in the area. I said no way, I stayed here for 2 nights already and no problem with having a guest. Then he said ok, he will cancel the extra charge. This joker was trying to make some money. So print a copy of your booking / save one on your phone, or have them print you one when you check in just in case. The night guy the previous two nights only made a copy of the girls ID. So stick to your reservation and everything should be fine.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2149528]Well the mansion is booked, both houses. 3 months in advance. My Spanish is bad. Though, not non existent. I have spent about a month in Sosua and Jaco, over the past 9 months. So I picked up some, and can communicate (and flirt) with good old fashion google translate. I always travel solo, as it pretty much makes the experience so much better. Except Jaco. Jaco sucks.

Would Cartagena be better because of the tourism factor?

I am opting for a nice airbnb with a sick view.[/QUOTE]Not screwed at all. Lots of hobbyists visit with a similar situation and do just fine. If you do a lot of reading on this site, you can get some great info. Make sure to have all the addresses of casas, strip clubs, etc. It would probably be a good idea on your first visit to stay in an apartment or visitor-friendly hotel somewhere near Parque Lleras. It's a fun area to walk around, at least for your first time visiting. Just be careful about noise as some apartments in Parque Lleras are TOO close to the action.

It seems virtually everyone these days uses Facebook to connect with chicas. Personally I like to meet them live first before committing to a session. But if that doesn't matter to you, you can literally set up dates for your entire visit via Facebook. Some will inevitably flake so have backup plans.

Cartagena might be a good idea. It does have some worthwhile tourist things to do. Stay on the beach or in the old Walled City. The beach itself isn't very nice, but there will be lots of other people (including available girls) around. The old Walled City is really cool and there will also be lots of activity.

Might also be worthwhile to check the weather charts for both cities. I think May is the rainiest month in Medellin.

Day 1 Fri.

Been having some health issues, 2 weeks in bed right before trip, might be a stuck kidney stone, Docs unsure. Anyway non-refundable ticket and I was feeling a little better so off I went. But not in my usual lets do 3 girls a day condition. LOL / sigh.

Went to bed at 12 am, up at 4 am for airport run.

Trip take s a weird turn on Spirit flight out of Lauderdale, 2 hours into flight commotion up at front of plane maybe row 6, I was in 26. Women tells crew there is bomb on plane, we divert to Cartagena, told we were in lock down, not to leave seats, all electronic devices off, we land, park in remote area, cops come on board and drag her off (off her meds I would guess) then wait almost 2 hours while they get bomb sniffing dog and search plane, finally take off again to Medellin, Rio Negro, 2 pm landing turns into 5:30 ish. Just in time for Medellin's massive rush hour gridlock. No getting out of seats or use of the heads or electronics for almost 3 hours, great fun.

I am so tired I fall asleep on the airport bus, LOL.

Check into the Botero downtown and meet my bud Jerry from last trip and his buddy Chris and my bud Stew from Nebraska who is living at the Botero. (he is getting a weekly rate of 50 k a day, normally 75 k).

I drop my bag off in room, we head for quick bite at BrasaPan, then do a circuit of the better Centro strip clubs, Conejitas 7 pm-ish, nothing special, then BarraEjectiva (hot as usual) A-Team did not seem to be on, we walk thru Maracaibo, saw one spinner with nice rack I liked and it was cool in there, we head down to Yakuza, 1 cutie, back to Conejitas, blah, cab to FaseII 10 pm, 120 k small bottle of Aquardiente, Chris does one chick, I drink a bunch and pick one, Danna, nice rack but should have waited to see her on stage 1st, not quite as tight body with clothes off, but fun enough, We jet around 12 ish, back to the Centro Clubs, my boys hit the hay, I go back to Maracaibo and grab the girl I like earlier, Marilee, looks 21 ish, says she is 28, tight little spinner body and super tight, give her 80 k, she does a little Bolivian Marching powder and we have fun in the back rooms, I wander back to hotel at 1:30 ish, time to pass out.

Day 2 Sat.

One of my wingmen wakes me up at 8:15 for breakfast. No way, get up 9:30 we go do breakfast at SalonVersailles on Paseo Junin.

[URL]http://versallesmedellin.com/[/URL]

Yum as usual, if you walk in and see no tables, go to back right corner and up stairs.

We do some shopping at the craft fair at Parque Bolivar, I score a purple double hammock for 45 k.

We go cruise the 2 Centro red-light blocks, 12:30 ish, Vera Cruz was weak, we head over to Raudal redlight block, I see one I want right away, Jessica Rabbit type bod, I ask how much, she goes high at 80 k, (usually 50-65 k there) I say sure (not big on bargaining, don't like to be cheap on vacation and if I had talked her down to 60 I would have saved 6 bucks or so, meh.) She was FUN, got her name, Diana and her number to have her over to my hotel soon! She had the prettiest face of the trip and a banging bod if you don't mind enhancements.

Back to the hotel so my boys can use my laptop, they want to head to Cartagena when I jet Wed, freaking forever for them to book tickets and hotels, messed up the tickets and spent like 1 or 2 hours trying to get thru to Avianca and change it.

We go do seafood at a yummy place across from the police sub-station at Parque Bolivar, really good! (Stews advice).

Then we (6 pm or so) cruise BarraEj, and Maracaibo and Yakusa (1 cutie at yakuza, Tiffany, 18 ish, from Venz) but end up at Conejitas till 9 ish, both my boys do the hottest 2, we drop Jerry off at Yakuza and me and Chris head to FaseII via Luna Lunera, LL had all hotties but wanted 110 K min for bottle service but I wanted to go see my sweetie Estrella from last trip at FaseII, we get there 9:30 ish, 7 hotties on floor then, 17 by 10 p, 46 by 11 p, all pretty hot but my girl never shows. Damn. Can't WhatsApp her without my hotel Wi-Fi. By this time I've had half a bottle of Aquardiente (small bottle, 2 waters, fruit cup, 120 k) and not sure I want to risk 190 k on what could be alcohol related performance issues so we jet back to Centro and do the lap of BE, Mari, Con, Yak and I decide to go with the super tight spinner coke girl Marilee from last night at Maracaibo, figuring a little bump won't kill me as it getting past 12 and I am a bit drunk, Chris picks another little hottie there, super sweet face spinner who turns out to be my girls little sister. LOL.

Well the rooms are all full at Maracaibo so we go out and down a few doors to a love hotel, 30 k for the room! And they have 1 left, so me and my girl go to another short term a few doors down, we do a few bumps, she gets tequila brought to the room, It was too hot in the room and she was TOO tight for my half in the bag condition, kept spitting me out! LOL.

I go wait for Chris we hit BrasaPan for some chow (yum!) and then we head to our hotel around the corner, I go in Yakusa but the fresh face spinner Tiffany I want is sitting with a dude, I wait to talk to her but she says the guy is going to do play time, I was going to take her to my room for the 45 k 1/2 HR rate. Damn! I'll try her again before I leave.

Back in room now, 2:20 am. Asleep by 3 ish.

Day 3-Sunday.

Wake up and think my watch says 10:30, jump and get ready to do breakfast, get down to my boys rooms and it's only 8:45!

Hope to go to Parque Arvi with my Fase girlie Estrella, she says she was sick last night, bad headaches etc. She says she'll be over by 1, I have some gifts for her. I bought make up kits on Amazon for $12 and I have a red corset for her I bought for a US sugar baby who bailed in a Halloween date and I brought some pink Fla hats from Walgreens, 2 for $10.

We do breakfast and then try to find a bank that won't spit out Chris's stupid ATM card, he has US currency but hard to find a Cambio open Sun in Centro.

While walking down Junin find a street vendor who has the Postobon soccer jerseys for 10 k, buy a few.

She shows up, we walk (with Jerry & Chris) to Parque Barrio Metro, I am watching my Fase girl, she does not know how to use the Metro turnstiles! She's never been on it! I finally ask her where she is from and she says Rio Negro. Dang! Long commute to FaseII.

It's hot, I do a t-shirt and shorts (my boys were wearing shorts so I figured I'd go full Gringo) but bring a poncho, we take the cable cars to the top, my girl is afraid on the cable car, and by the time we get to the butterfly garden / lake area on the jingle bus and have lunch it starts to rain! My girl starts to feel bad again, her hands are cold and shaking, bad headache, I say we can jet, give her the poncho, we lose my boys in the mad scramble to get on the bus, she takes a bus from there to Rio Negro and promises to come back tomorrow. It's now pouring and windy and cold, I am soaking and waiting behind 400 people all trying to get on the cable cars.

I eventually get down the Mt and back to Berrio. We do dinner, Chris has a Fase girl OTW, Jerry just wants to pull from Yakuza, I do the Centro strip club circuit a little early, 8;30 ish, nada much and too hot in BarraEjectiva and Maricaibo, I swing by Yakuza and Tiff is busy AGAIN. Not having good luck today!

Head back out for another circuit and down a few doors from Yakuza I see a tight little hot street chick, Centro street rat step out of a diner for a smoke (weed I think) I head that way pass the diner, turn and check her out, she sees me and come out to talk, 5'2"ish, Raver kinda chick, kitty ears on her head, white eye make-up and sparkles around her eyes, long black hair with red stripes, yellow hot pants, heels, lots of tattoos and nice be cups, not a once of fat. I say how much to play, she says 30 k. I say follow me! About 100 ft from my hotel, she starts making out with me in the elevator, get in the room, we do some shots, she pulls my clothes off and starts on BBBJ, then covered sex, lots of passion, moaning and moving, me likey.

Walk her down like a Gentleman does and off she goes, forgot her name and didn't get her number like a dumb ass. I was too surprised about my luck reversal, tired and slightly drunk. LOL.

Find Chris, we do the circuit, hang in BarraEjectiva for awhile, Sunday night, 10 ish, I count 25+ girls, 50+ dudes, top 3 girls very hot, one was easy Fase II material. But I hate their hot dark upstairs rooms and still recovering from Raver chick, we head down to Conejitas (Maracaibo was dead). At 1st Conj looks dead, 6 to 7 girls, maybe 8 guys, we sit down (tip, back right of club near girls bathroom is a A / see vent that blows right down on a table, was nice and cool there!

Anywho we sit a bit and then I see a smoking hottie come out of the back-tight white dress, nice heels, body a natural 9, face at least a 8, could be a top girl at FaseII, talk to her but still kinda beat from the tramping up and down hills at Arvi and the Raver chick so I get her name "Ruby" and ask her when she works next (Monday at 5) and we jet, Chris calls it a night, I go out for a empanada and pan with a grape Postobon, peek back in Yakuza but Tiffany had left for the night so I hit my room too, 12:35, only had 5 hrs sleep last night and have another bud from Fla coming in tomorrow I have to show the ropes so I call it a night too. Whew.

Day- 4 Monday.

Crap, my watch gets on 2nd time zone mode so I think I am getting up at 9 but it's really 8. LOL.

Salon Versailles for breakfast, hit the red-light blocks, Vera Cruz had the edge this time with a cute blond nice rack, 30 k.

My Fase girl wants some smoke, I use to get it from my dearly departed Conejitas girl, so I head down to Parque Del Periodista where a blind person could score. LOL.

My Fase girl claims she still feels sick. Hmmmm. Whatever.

My spinner VeraCruz girl Louisa messages me on FB, claims she is in VeraCruz, go back there, no sign, tell her to WhatsApp me. Peek in Yakusa 4 ish, cute little blond, may check her out later, going to take El Pollo Negro, dude from Fla on a Centro tour, then dinner at Hacienda on Junin then Fase past 10 p.

Me and Polllo Negro cruz Vera Cruz and there are close to 50 girls (around 5 pm) several cute ones, finally run into Louisa but am on the tour so tell her I will see her soon, we walk over to Raudal block and there is my Jessica Rabbit analog girlie Diana, and her friend is built just like her, Pollo takes her friend up stairs and I grab Diana, she is more fun and passionate the 2nd time, after I show him Conejitas and BE and Mari, then we do late lunch at BrasaPan, go back and get the other guys and we do the rounds, Pollo like a girl at BE and gos up with her, then we end up at FaseII, they had 38 on I counted, 10:45 ish, but my favs are off, we go back to Centro, hit all 3 strip clubs, Pollo and the boys hot the sack, I go in Yakuza and finally Tiffany is available, 45 k to my room, she is 20 it turns out and from Venz and lots of fun, happy, laughing and we have fun.

Now 1:15 a and I am writing this before I hit the sack.

Day 5 Tues.

We do breakfast, a little shopping, then Jerry & Chris want to move to Poblado, I cab down there with them to check it out, hate it as much as the last time, they check into the Green Hotel next to Parque Lleras, rooms were postage stamp sized I thought.

We cab over to the Mayorista red light block but 3 ish on a Wed is weak, maybe 6 to 8 girls, none very hot. I hop the subway back to Centro, do some street rounds, see my girlie Diana in her spot at Raudal, but tell her I am looking for El Pollo Negro, wander in Conejitas around 5 pm and WOW, I see Dulce, smoking hot bod, could easily work at Fase II, great bod if you don't mind some enhancements, I give her the 80 k and go upstairs, she is super fun, lots of enthusiasm and positions, get her number for later, have a 8 pm dinner date with my Fase II girlie Estrella, she comes early like 7 pm, so cute she shows up in a little bear outfit / jacket, I called her Winney the Pooh all night, we hit my room for a few shots and a smoke, we go to Cafe Colombo Credenza in Centro, best food I have had in Med, wow 10th story with balcony views of city, and whatever she had, clams I think, was about the best thing I ever tasted.

[URL]http://www.credenzafoods.com/restaurante/nuestra-carta[/URL]

Back to the hotel for fun, she loves the corset I brought her, she has to jet by 10 p to get the last bus to Rio Negro, I hit the 3 main Centro strip clubs plus Yakusa and hang with Stew in BarraEjectiva but am buzzed from the sangria at dinner and smoke I did with Estrella so I call it a night, get a bite at 1 am with Pollo Negro at BrasaPan and hit the hay.

Day 6, Wed last day. Have to be on bus by 12:30 ish.

Manage to sleep in till 9 finally, me and Pollo and Stew get breakfast at SalonVersilles and I set up a date with Dulce my hotel, we didn't talk money, she got there looking smoking around 11 and I gave her 150 k and the last makeup kit I brought, she was super happy and did BBBJ this time unasked. She also shows up in a cute non-hooker outfit. (the purple top and tights).

When she jets I have 1/2 HR before I need to get the airport bus so I hit VeraCruz looking for a spinner to round out the set, see one right off on the corner, tell her I will be back and I walk the rest of the block to see if I like anything better, mistake, get back to her corner and she is gone. Damn. I hit a gift shop instead to get a poster size Botero print, nice, on canvas (30 k) and go get on the bus.

Spirit offers me a free round trip if I will fly out tomorrow but have to be at work and an low on funds by this point.

I'll will get home by 1 am and be exhausted for a few days.

In conclusion you'll notice I did zero casa's (Yakusa is sort of different) and the hottest natural bod was Estrella and the hottest enhanced bod was Dulce and the prettiest face was Diana.

The most fun in bed was the 30 k centro street rat. LOL.

All Centro chicks except Estrella who is Fase II.

My bud Stuart took us by a police supply shop, it is just east of and on the south side of the main Centro police station, they have pocket size tear gas and collapsing metal batons for sale, both in the 20 to 30 k range. I asked if it was legal to carry and they said yes.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2150004]No. ID prefer an apartment. Everyone just keeps saying stay there if you don't speak the language.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at Hotel M several times and, overall, I like the place. I will stay there again.

But the fact is its just a PLACE. It isn't magical or the Playboy Mansion or Shangri-La.

It helps to stay there if you don't have much Spanish or if you are alone and would like to meet some monger buddies to hang with but if you have even a little common sense and experience traveling you will be perfectly fine NOT staying there.

In fact, although Poblado is a nice area of town it is obviously a disadvantage to stay in the area if you are just going to end up going to casas and strip clubs every day unless you like sitting in traffic.

The only person who MUST stay at Casa Blanca is someone who is from some tiny town in Iowa or something who doesn't even know what "hola" means and who has never set foot out of his little town in his life.

Credenza is the best you've had in Medellin? It's convenient and you get to see some nice looking language school students on the way in and out but I rate it slightly above average overall for Medellin.

Your girl Dulce has a very pretty face. I agree with you that she is for those who like silicone enhanced women.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150420]Day 5 Tues.

We do breakfast, a little shopping, then Jerry & Chris want to move to Poblado, I cab down there with them to check it out, hate it as much as the last time, they check into the Green Hotel next to Parque Lleras, rooms were postage stamp sized I thought.

We cab over to the Mayorista red light block but 3 ish on a Wed is weak, maybe 6 to 8 girls, none very hot. I hop the subway back to Centro, do some street rounds, see my girlie Diana in her spot at Raudal, but tell her I am looking for El Pollo Negro, wander in Conejitas around 5 pm and WOW, I see Dulce, smoking hot bod, could easily work at Fase II, great bod if you don't mind some enhancements, I give her the 80 k and go upstairs, she is super fun, lots of enthusiasm and positions, get her number for later, have a 8 pm dinner date with my Fase II girlie Estrella, she comes early like 7 pm, so cute she shows up in a little bear outfit / jacket, I called her Winney the Pooh all night, we hit my room for a few shots and a smoke, we go to Cafe Colombo Credenza in Centro, best food I have had in Med, wow 10th story with balcony views of city, and whatever she had, clams I think, was about the best thing I ever tasted.

[URL]http://www.credenzafoods.com/restaurante/nuestra-carta[/URL]

Back to the hotel for fun, she loves the corset I brought her, she has to jet by 10 p to get the last bus to Rio Negro, I hit the 3 main Centro strip clubs plus Yakusa and hang with Stew in BarraEjectiva but am buzzed from the sangria at dinner and smoke I did with Estrella so I call it a night, get a bite at 1 am with Pollo Negro at BrasaPan and hit the hay.[/QUOTE]

She does look hotter naked then dressed (which is rare I think) but if you don't like tattoos she does have her whole back done. But from the front just a small one just above her bikini line.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150426]Day 6, Wed last day. Have to be on bus by 12:30 ish.

Manage to sleep in till 9 finally, me and Pollo and Stew get breakfast at SalonVersilles and I set up a date with Dulce my hotel, we didn't talk money, she got there looking smoking around 11 and I gave her 150 k and the last makeup kit I brought, she was super happy and did BBBJ this time unasked. She also shows up in a cute non-hooker outfit. (the purple top and tights).

When she jets I have 1/2 HR before I need to get the airport bus so I hit VeraCruz looking for a spinner to round out the set, see one right off on the corner, tell her I will be back and I walk the rest of the block to see if I like anything better, mistake, get back to her corner and she is gone. Damn. I hit a gift shop instead to get a poster size Botero print, nice, on canvas (30 k) and go get on the bus.

Spirit offers me a free round trip if I will fly out tomorrow but have to be at work and an low on funds by this point.

I'll will get home by 1 am and be exhausted for a few days.

In conclusion you'll notice I did zero casa's (Yakusa is sort of different) and the hottest natural bod was Estrella and the hottest enhanced bod was Dulce and the prettiest face was Diana.

The most fun in bed was the 30 k centro street rat. LOL.

All Centro chicks except Estrella who is Fase II.[/QUOTE]Great reports Wolf, thanks.

75 k a night for a double, OK with multi guests. In the heart of Centro though so if you need to be near a Hooters, Dunkin Donuts, Dominos or $200 Lleras hookers look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2150447]I've stayed at Hotel M several times and, overall, I like the place. I will stay there again.

But the fact is its just a PLACE. It isn't magical or the Playboy Mansion or Shangri-La.

It helps to stay there if you don't have much Spanish or if you are alone and would like to meet some monger buddies to hang with but if you have even a little common sense and experience traveling you will be perfectly fine NOT staying there.

In fact, although Poblado is a nice area of town it is obviously a disadvantage to stay in the area if you are just going to end up going to casas and strip clubs every day unless you like sitting in traffic.

[b]The only person who MUST stay at Casa Blanca is someone who is from some tiny town in Iowa or something who doesn't even know what "hola" means and who has never set foot out of his little town in his life.[/b][/QUOTE]Jajajaja, you cleared everything up. I am going to be just fine. But me, I want eye candy and the money really doesn't matter too much. I am a yuppy with no wife or kids. Great thing making above average income and your friends are paying 2 grand a month on day care.

If anyone has any prepagos, it would be great to know. I goto that spanish forum and use google translate.

Is Vane Betancur prepaid?

Also can anyone give me a clue to find the the Venezolanas apartments? I may go to Cartagena, just for the the Venezolanas. Apparently, no one has had a bad session.

Hi guy,

I been told there is a Casas that only has students in it (over 18), students work to help pay fees etc.

Anyone know what place is classed?

Mike.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2150563]J I may go to Cartagena, just for the the Venezolanas. Apparently, no one has had a bad session.[/QUOTE]I did, and more than once. One time, I had to kick out of my room two girls who were playing silly and making me waste my time and money. I had to give them some propina to not make them make a riot in my apartment, but it was a propina and not the money I planned to spend for the night with the two at my sides.

"Made in Venezuela" is not a brand of quality per se. Each person is different, coming from Venezuela or from Medellin. There are jewels and there are scammers or just plastic robots who want to get your cash as quickest as possible. What makes the difference is YOU and your ability to perceive situations and person attitude.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150443]they have pocket size tear gas and collapsing metal batons for sale, both in the 20 to 30 k range. I asked if it was legal to carry and they said yes.[/QUOTE]Useful to feel safe, even patrolling proudly the streets of El Centro at night, until someone points a real GUN to your face. This is not something unlikely in Medellin. IMHO, the best way to stay safe is keeping the lowest profile as possible and to not raise unwanted attention.

PS: I never like the girls you post here. To be frank, they are on the other side of the world of my tastes, but you made me fall in love with Estrella and her sweet face. She must be a nice sweet one. Congrats. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2150563]the money really doesn't matter too much. I am a yuppy with no wife or kids. Great thing making above average income [/QUOTE]Mira vos! Maybe go to Costa Rica or some other place that has already been ruined by overpaying yuppies.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2150788]Useful to feel safe, even patrolling proudly the streets of El Centro at night, until someone points a real GUN to your face. This is not something unlikely in Medellin. IMHO, the best way to stay safe is keeping the lowest profile as possible and to not raise unwanted attention.

PS: I never like the girls you post here. To be frank, they are on the other side of the world of my tastes, but you made me fall in love with Estrella and her sweet face. She must be a nice sweet one. Congrats. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]"I never like the girls you post here. " Like the comedian I heard in the '70's, "If we all liked the same thing you'd all be after my old lady".

Somebody points a gun at you give them what they want.

Some drunk decides he wants to stab you or beat you up- tear gas / baton might come in handy.

If you are a retired Green Beret from 7th Special Forces Group, Centro is OK for you.

If you are a fat paper pusher who lives in a gated suburban community who speaks no Spanish and wears a Rolex, cargo shorts and sandals and your last trip was a Carnival Cruise and couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag it is not for you.

Can you run fast or talk your way out or fight your way out? If not Centro may not be for you.

That being said most the low-lifes in Centro don't look like they could afford a gun, if I had a gun and wanted rob Gringos I would go to Poblado, so don't feel so safe there either, more Gringos get robbed there because more Gringos are there.

Personally I am nowhere near as nervous in Centro as the year I lived in a bad part of Washington DC and was one of 7 white kids at my high school, or the time the Tall Ship I crewed on lost the bob-stay chain and most of the fore-stays and almost the whole rig in a North Atlantic storm 5 days from land, or the year I spend dodging rockets and IED's and RPG's in Kandahar Province (2005) or the time I raced Daytona Speedway in the rain at 150 mph on a motorcycle. It's all about perspective and experience.

Me: 5 years in a crappy port town in Costa Rica (Puntarenas) , fluent accent-less Spanish. That's important, if some low life says: "Dame tu reloj!" are you going to know what he said? I suspect most the cases of "stabbed / shot resisting a robbery" are lack of language skills.

I have 3 years of martial arts training with a very old school Korean instructor who did unarmed Vs knife / sword training and 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 3 training.

I will give up my wallet most likely but then if he still wants to dance, lets dance. (vs knife or hand to hand, not gun unless it's going south anyway).

Without all that I might stay out of Centro too.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2150563]

If anyone has any prepagos, it would be great to know. I goto that spanish forum and use google translate.

Is Vane Betancur prepaid?

[/QUOTE]Yes, Vane is a prepago.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299/friends?lst=100000389067205%3A1475509786%3A1520621278&source_ref=pb_friends_tl[/URL]

You can also hit up Jennifer Zapata. She knows some model types and can set you up with a nice apartment as well.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenifer.natalia111?fref=gs&dti=854589957910300&hc_location=group_dialog[/URL]

If all you are looking for is sex with very high end chicks the mansion isn't really the place to go.

The girls at the mansion are mostly 7's with a few 8's in the bunch. But they are friendly. Will party with you all night and go out with you on the town if you like and are very GFE on average.

Here is the profile of a mansion chick that is fairly popular right now. She is good in bed and will hang all day or all night for about a third of the price you will pay for Vane or Jennifer Zapata's friends.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jeni.pc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2150489]Credenza is the best you've had in Medellin? It's convenient and you get to see some nice looking language school students on the way in and out but I rate it slightly above average overall for Medellin.
[/QUOTE]Well all my experience is with Centro eateries, and most my Centro chicks are fine with a diner for $3 to $5 like BrasaPan.

I have done Hacienda which I like.

[URL]https://www.restaurantehacienda.com/[/URL]

Botaniko Bistro Cafe which I like.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/botanikobistrocafe[/URL]

Restaurant Hatoviejo which I like.

[URL]http://hatoviejo.com/en/locations/centro/[/URL]

Versalles which I like.

[URL]http://versallesmedellin.com/[/URL]

But none of those had the ambiance or food presentation that Credenza had.

Lunch menu may be different and certainly more romantic at night on the balcony, also price Vs quality I thought was outstanding, without the Sangria dinner for 2 would have been around $30, and that was appetizers, salads, main course and cheesecake for her, and while my fettuccine was just good, what ever Estrella has was god dam fantastic and I have eaten in 38 countries.

I am going to ask her what it was and go back there for it on my next trip.

Also when I went to Poblado with my boys, they stopped in a sidewalk cafe for lunch, about 2 blocks from Lleras, and the menu was 80 k to 130 k per plate, I ran from there!

Our food and Estrella's plate of maybe clams.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2150788]Useful to feel safe, even patrolling proudly the streets of El Centro at night[/QUOTE]I never walk more then a block and a half at night in Centro, that's why I stay where I do, I avoid the red light blocks after 5 and make buddies with all the bouncers at the 3 strip clubs I hit. Any further and I am in a cab.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150508]75 k a night for a double, OK with multi guests. In the heart of Centro though so if you need to be near a Hooters, Dunkin Donuts, Dominos or $200 Lleras hookers look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]What is this hotel called? And by "double," the hotel means double-sized bed, one that just smaller than a queen sized bed? Or do they mean double occupancy?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2150907]What is this hotel called? And by "double," the hotel means double-sized bed, one that just smaller than a queen sized bed? Or do they mean double occupancy?[/QUOTE]The post's title clearly states that it is called the Botero. Hotel Botero. Been reviewed on this forum many times.

It's double occupancy. The hotel is called Botero Medellin. It used to be called Botero Plaza and some of the signage and Internet directory listings still use the old name. It is across the street from Yakuza on carrera 50 A, behind the Nutibara and a couple of doors from the airport bus stop. It has been reported heavily on this forum.

For those who may not know, it is in Centro. Centro is a marginal neighborhood frequented by addicts, sex workers, and petty criminals. I've never been to a city the size of Medellin that did not have a similar neighborhood. If you are American, think Skid Row, downtown LOS Angeles, San Francisco's Tenderloin or Hunter's Point, South Side Chicago, New York's Hunts Point Market, East London UK, or Les Halles in Paris. You can get in trouble there if you are not aware of your surroundings or if you call attention to yourself with yahoo behaviour (loud fratboy antics, being drunk and stoned in public while dressed in short pants where no one else is). I think that about covers it.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2150907]What is this hotel called? And by "double," the hotel means double-sized bed, one that just smaller than a queen sized bed? Or do they mean double occupancy?[/QUOTE]

There are many other hotels at similar rates in the area. Any of them will be happy to show you rooms before you decide to check in.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2150911]The post's title clearly states that it is called the Botero. Hotel Botero. Been reviewed on this forum many times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2149720]Being spat on by the chica and then beaten up and robbed by the pimp.[/QUOTE]You know, there are some guys that would....pay a little extra for that.

I think this is excellent advice. I hope people follow it so we don't have to read depressing stories about guys being victimized.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2150788]Useful to feel safe, even patrolling proudly the streets of El Centro at night, until someone points a real GUN to your face. This is not something unlikely in Medellin. IMHO, the best way to stay safe is keeping the lowest profile as possible and to not raise unwanted attention.

PS: I never like the girls you post here. To be frank, they are on the other side of the world of my tastes, but you made me fall in love with Estrella and her sweet face. She must be a nice sweet one. Congrats. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2150911]The post's title clearly states that it is called the Botero. Hotel Botero. Been reviewed on this forum many times.[/QUOTE]I think I stayed there a couple of years ago.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2150907]What is this hotel called? And by "double," the hotel means double-sized bed, one that just smaller than a queen sized bed? Or do they mean double occupancy?[/QUOTE]OK, one more time, a primer on Hotel Botero:

It's the "Hotel Botero Medellin".

Carrera 50 A #53-45.

[EMAIL]hotelboteromedellin@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]

I have no idea if they answer emails.

Main amenities.

84 guest rooms - 24 hour front desk. Daily housekeeping. Roof top bar, sauna & steam room. Free WiFi.

What's around in La Candelaria (aka El Centro).

Palacio de la Cultura - 3 min walk.

Botero Square Sculpture Park - 3 min walk.

Park of Lights - 14 min walk.

Atanasio Giradot Stadium - 44 min walk.

Mercado de San Alejo - 3 min walk.

Antioquia Museum - 4 min walk.

Bolivar's Park - 4 min walk.

Berrio Park - 5 min walk.

Medellin Cathedral - 6 min walk.

La Candelaria Church - 6 min walk.

It's just behind the Hotel Nutribara across from the main square, Plaza Botero in El Centro Medellin, kind of a rough neighborhood at night but very busy and active in the day. It is in the same block where the airport buses start and end the Centro route, so $3 ride from airport to 100 feet from hotel. The double refers to renting a room for two people so they don't mind you taking chicas up to your room. It is a 15 story hotel with a bar on the roof with great views (open from noon to 9 p), $26 a night for a double, they will bring you a mini fridge and fan if you ask, has 43" flat screen, hot water and walkin shower, Yakusa brothel right across the street and 4 Strip Club / brothels with in a block a and a half and 2 blocks to 2 redlight blocks where the chicas start at $10.

I don't really recommend El Centro to Latin big city newbies who don't speak any Spanish.

My advise if you do stay there I have given out before is:

I take my laptop every time, each floor has wifi, if it goes down just go out in the hall by the elevator and the wifi box is up on the wall, just unplug and replug it, worked after that.

Just book for 2 and ask for a queen when you check in, I get the 2 doubles as it gives me a place to unpack. Yes you will have to pay a chica fee if you rent a single. When you check in ask for a room 10th floor or higher for the view, ask for the backside of the hotel opposite the lobby entrance as they are cooler in the AM and better view. Tell them you need a mini fridge and also tip them to bring you a fan. There is a rooftop bar which opens at noon with a sauna and steam room.

When you get to the airport as you step outside you will see these mini-buses, they are 9,500 p ($3 or so), it's a hour ride to the city depending on traffic. Ask for the "auto-pista to Centro" route bus that ends behind the hotel Nutibara. The buses say "Combuses SA" on the side. Their last stop is 100 ft from the hotel Botero, just past it same side street. When out if cabbies don't know where the Botero is tell them behind the Hotel Nutribara where the airport buses are.

The closest brothel is "Yakusa", right across the street, a hair right behind a mirrored door and open early stays open very late, like 4 am on weekends, should be 45 k to take the girl to your room for 1/2 HR, the rooms they have suck.

With street girls remember to ask to see their ID "cedula" and make sure they are 18+ to keep out of a Colombian prison.

Closest safe ATM, go out hotel, right, end street, cross and head left a little, stairs up to restaurant "La Raza" in the back of hotel Nutribara, go thru into hotel, go right, then right, 2 ATM's, the Banco Colombia one has a better rate but a $200 (600 K) limit.

Closest 24 HR good / cheap food, go out hotel right to corner, go right to corner, called BrasaPan.

Closest grocery store go out right to corner, go right, go left next street (under the Metro) on left down stairs to store, called "Tiendas D1".

1st two Strip club / brothels, go out lobby, right. Then left, 2 blocks on left are Maracaibo and Barra Ejectiva, right next door to each other, girls around 80 k on site, 50 k exit fee to take girl to your hotel after making deal with girl, Barra Ejectiva is the busier bar with more girls, but worth peeking in Maracaibo.

Other OK club, go out lobby, right, then right, next left, then cross over right under metro line, stay on right side street down to corner, called Conejitas (means "Little Bunnies" but they mean "Playmates") also 80 k or so on site, none of the clubs have a cover so I usually go in and out from 5 p till 2 a or so to check the talent, which comes and goes. You will pass another club with stairs leading down to it same block, Grill Nueva Aveneda but it is small and very hot. In Conejitas if it is hot try to get the tables along back wall, some of them are under A / C vents.

Since I have been promoting it there are usually a few gringos staying there you can hit the clubs with, we had 5 or 6 of us there last week.

I book it thru [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] which was cheaper then my buds who used [URL]Booking.com[/URL].

Here's my map of the adult fun in the area of the hotel, ignore the redlight block around Parque Bolivar as they are mostly not females.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2150915]For those who may not know, it is in Centro. Centro is a marginal neighborhood frequented by addicts, sex workers, and petty criminals..[/QUOTE]Do be fair there are parts that are quite safe in the day like Paseo Junin, Parque Bolivar (which has a police substation) and the busy commercial streets around Edificio Coltejer and the Union Mall / Centro Comercial El Unióand and Botero Plaza etc.

There are also some scary industrial neighborhoods it is best to stay away from, I advise spending some time on Google Street view figuring out which is which.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2150916]There are many other hotels at similar rates in the area. Any of them will be happy to show you rooms before you decide to check in.[/QUOTE]But only one is 50 ft from the airport bus, a gringo hauling luggage around Centro screams "Papaya" (fruit to be plucked in the local slang).

I bought my girlie from Conejitas a big suitcase to go work in the Islands last year and the most nervous I have been in MED was wheeling that back to my hotel, especially when she stopped to get some fruit and a drink from a vendor and left me standing there with the big suitcase on Maracaibo corner. "Gringo papaya! It screamed.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2150777]Hi guy,

I been told there is a Casas that only has students in it (over 18), students work to help pay fees etc.

Anyone know what place is classed?

Mike.[/QUOTE]I've been told a woman was a virgin by her daughter and both her sons. I've been told "I'm a student", but then she has no idea what she's studying. I've been told "I work at _ by a girl who doesn't know where the place she works at is located.

I wouldn't put much faith in what people tell you. There might be a place that makes that claim, but the reality will be same as any other casa.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150857]If you are a retired Green Beret from 7th Special Forces Group, Centro is OK for you.

If you are a fat paper pusher who lives in a gated suburban community who speaks no Spanish and wears a Rolex, cargo shorts and sandals and your last trip was a Carnival Cruise and couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag it is not for you.

Can you run fast or talk your way out or fight your way out? If not Centro may not be for you.

That being said most the low-lifes in Centro don't look like they could afford a gun, if I had a gun and wanted rob Gringos I would go to Poblado, so don't feel so safe there either, more Gringos get robbed there because more Gringos are there..[/QUOTE]I have none of the above. I try to spend a few hours every week walking El Centro, got in an hour or so today. I usually get off at San Antonio station, walk to Veracruz church, cut down the alley, head north on one side of the street, continue down and hit the Raudel block. Walk one side to the end of the block (even though the girls end after 1/3 a block. Head east a block, cruise back south down the street with all the bars, go back to walk the other side of Raudel, back east a block, walk the other side of the bars, go east to the farmer's market alley, cruise past the bars there. When I get to the end, I'll go east another block and walk past Grill Occidental, which brings me back to Botero Plaza. Head west, walk the other side of the Veracruz block, head back up the alley next to Iglesia Veracruz where I decide if I want to take another lap.

Unless I'm taking someone to a casa, which I did today, I don't spend much time on the other side of the metro line. I've walked all the above as late as 9:30 pm. The only time I've been nervous was when I saw 2 guys jump a third guy in the Veracruz alley.

It's not for everyone, but I like it just fine.

You might want to try Delicias Natural next time you're back. If you come out the door at New Life, turn right (Botanika is to the left), go to the the corner, turn right, it's half a block on the right. Excellent food and cheap. Owner speaks good English.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2150861]Yes, Vane is a prepago.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299/friends?lst=100000389067205%3A1475509786%3A1520621278&source_ref=pb_friends_tl[/URL]

You can also hit up Jennifer Zapata. She knows some model types and can set you up with a nice apartment as well.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenifer.natalia111?fref=gs&dti=854589957910300&hc_location=group_dialog[/URL]

If all you are looking for is sex with very high end chicks the mansion isn't really the place to go.

The girls at the mansion are mostly 7's with a few 8's in the bunch. But they are friendly. Will party with you all night and go out with you on the town if you like and are very GFE on average.

Here is the profile of a mansion chick that is fairly popular right now. She is good in bed and will hang all day or all night for about a third of the price you will pay for Vane or Jennifer Zapata's friends.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jeni.pc[/URL][/QUOTE]I appreciate it. I guess I will reach out to Vane. I have some facebook girls bookmarked and will go that route too. Booked a flight to Medellin today. I haven't picked an apartment yet, but it will be in Poblado.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150961]Do be fair there are parts that are quite safe in the day like Paseo Junin, Parque Bolivar (which has a police substation) and the busy commercial streets around Edificio Coltejer and the Union Mall / Centro Comercial El Uniand and Botero Plaza etc.

There are also some scary industrial neighborhoods it is best to stay away from, I advise spending some time on Google Street view figuring out which is which.[/QUOTE]Actually it was directly across from Parque Bolívar where I was robbed in broad daylight and the cops made the situation considerably worse.

This year has been all about Colombia. The best bargain in the world. Arrived in Medellíand around 2 pm breezed through customs. Called Uber which cost 45 k to Centro Airbnb apartment. Uber driver was from Venezuela and asked me if I was a cop. My Airbnb apartment is completely independent. There is space for a door man but no one has been there all day. It's a loft style apartment that has been modernized on the 8th floor. The best part is that it's a stones throw away from the casas.

Aiffe Calle 57 #43-27.

Five girls. Most doable nothing spectacular. I went with chubby 20 Negra from Medellin. Her butt got me and she was sweet but the pussy was terrible. 40 k for 30 minutes.

New Life Calle 56 #43-39.

20 plus girls. All doable. Spectacular not so much but you would be satisfied with the array of choices. I went with Valentina 26 year old from Medellíand. The ass to waist ratio was nice. She had nicely done breast but she had one of those expired ass that turns red LOL. Nonetheless pound it out. Pussy was wet but not tight. Offered anal for 100 k. Session was 50 k for 30 minutes. Place was packed by the way but not much fucking going on.

Atenea Cra 45 #55-45.

2 non doable girls. I believe she quoted me 40 k for 30 minutes.

Zandalays Cra 47 #57-17.

8 girls. All doable. A bunch of pretty faces in the group presented but I like bodies and the group was lacking. Big butt girl with tight pussy I sessioned with the last time I was here wasn't there so I kept it moving.

Cra 47 #56-34.

6 girls. Maybe one doable. I didn't ask the price but had to pay 2 k for presentation.

Chica con punto Calle 54 #49-97.

About ten girls. About half were doable. Nothing spectacular. The one girl I sessioned with multiple times was there with the big ass but I wanted something new. Didn't ask the price but last time it was 35 k. Had to pay 2 k for presentation.

Yakuza Cra 50 a #53-3.

6 girls. A few doable. They always have the youngest looking girls up in there. I'm always skeptical. Didn't see anything that caught my eye. They kept grabbing my ass on the way in and out of the place. Quoted me 40 k for 30 minutes and 80 k for an hour.

Cra 53 Streetwalkers.

It was around 5:30-6 pm. There were about 20 girls on the strip bit nothing caught my eye.

Conejitas Calle 53 #51-41.

7 girls. 5 doable. 2 of them caught my eye. One tall skinny Paisa with enhances that looked nice with clothes on. Looked older in the face though and I didn't really like her attitude. The other one was bubbly tall Paisa forget her name. She did a strip show so I could see her body and it was nice. Wanted 80 k and had to pay for hotel. I passed because I had a date in about an hour but told I would come back later.

Went back to the apartment showered and met my date in poblado at a restaurant called Peru mix. The food was good and my date was pretty but annoying. I told her I was getting tired which was true but I wanted to get away from her. Called an Uber and came back to apartment to rest.

Woke up at midnight and hit Barra executiva, Maracaibo, cra 53 and conejitas. Tall beauty bad attitude was the best thing I seen in all those places besides this one at Barra that was constantly busy. Ended up going with 21 year old Linda from Cali. She was very nice and aimed to please. Kept asking me if I liked it. The pussy was ok but I did and enjoy grabbing that soft ass. Cost me 70 k. Got pics. Gave her propina and headed back to the apartment for much needed rest.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2150985]I wouldn't put much faith in what people tell you. There might be a place that makes that claim, but the reality will be same as any other casa.[/QUOTE]Everybody wants a special place that caters to their particular fetish. What does it matter if a place is full of students, waitresses, or engineers? What matters is if there are women inside selling pussy.

That about covers it I think, thanks.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150925]OK, one more time, a primer on Hotel Botero:

It's the "Hotel Botero Medellin".

Carrera 50 A #53-45.

[EMAIL]hotelboteromedellin@hotmail.com[/EMAIL]

I have no idea if they answer emails.

Main amenities..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2150777]Hi guy,

I been told there is a Casas that only has students in it (over 18), students work to help pay fees etc.

Mike.[/QUOTE]Never bee in Medelllin yet, but I search and many advertised places or girls claim to be students, maybe is true, maybe is more marketing, but I think more likely they were students, but they quit and started to work and, but some maybe doing this because are willing to go back to university. Some day. I don't care if they are studying or not, unless I want to take them out and have a good conversation, but I do prefer them with young looking and not surgery.

Go to mileroticos and search for "universitarias".

For example this is one result.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/chicas-universitarias/9672570/[/URL]

I suppose all working girls should be adults, and over 18+, to work in a casa, right?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2150998]I have none of the above.[/QUOTE]Do you speak some Spanish?

A guy with zero Spanish language skills can get in trouble if he can't defuse any tension with a joke or understand what the drunk guy is going on about.

Is he talking about Club Atltico Nacional's latest win or asking you for your wallet? Big difference in the outcome and how you respond.

I agree completely, including the bit about scary industrial areas.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150961]Do be fair there are parts that are quite safe in the day like Paseo Junin, Parque Bolivar (which has a police substation) and the busy commercial streets around Edificio Coltejer and the Union Mall / Centro Comercial El Uniand and Botero Plaza etc.

There are also some scary industrial neighborhoods it is best to stay away from, I advise spending some time on Google Street view figuring out which is which.[/QUOTE]

First off, I want to say thank you to everyone on the board, especially Wolf, you really were generous and made my trip easy as possible. I arrived to Medellin on Monday, stayed through Friday. I absolutely banged 4-5 girls each day. I have no limit on money I spend, because I came for particulars. I was able to bang each girl I set eyes on and get pics and video of everyone of'them for a set price. I was at Fase dos and a girl wanted $600 mil cop for a session, but she wasn't clear on what she would allow me to do and I wasn't with the BS. So I'll try again when I return. I was impressed, met a girl, met her family, ate & slept at her house and I will return within the month. Best part about my new girlfriend, she helps me locate girls, bang'them, take pics and helps me to record. I have very particular wants so I laid a ground plan to achieve what I wanted. I wanted specifically morenas, 1 Gorda, 1 senora mayor like 55 to 65 years old. I have already established a relationship with like 6-7 girls, and I'll return every 2-3 weeks. Even a ticket, plus hotel fee, plus girl fee, is much much much cheaper than the US. I found a place I like and I have no intention of turning it a loose until I'm tired of these girls. I actually made money on the trip, go figure! I took 15 J-7 prime samsungs phones that a friend gave to me for a little of nothing and was able to sell them for $300 mil a piece. I love Medellin. When time permits I will begin to post pics. Some girls are prideful some are not, I lost a little plata and spent a little pretty well. It's very similar to Puerto Rican Barrios. Personally, I absolutely loved my trip. I'm at work, but I'm trying to find some more J7 primes for my quick return. If you got a few hundred of throw away cash, in Medellin, you should be able to get nearly anything done in Medellin!

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2150907]What is this hotel called? And by "double," the hotel means double-sized bed, one that just smaller than a queen sized bed? Or do they mean double occupancy?[/QUOTE]Room pic is no longer accurate!

Ok years ago when new.

No flowers, lamp, orange bed accents, extra pillows, carpet, drapes that hang properly or windows that close tightly or lock. ymmv

Aircon and room safe do not work.

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2150861]Yes, Vane is a prepago.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/monicabetancur299/friends?lst=100000389067205%3A1475509786%3A1520621278&source_ref=pb_friends_tl[/URL]

You can also hit up Jennifer Zapata. She knows some model types and can set you up with a nice apartment as well.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jenifer.natalia111?fref=gs&dti=854589957910300&hc_location=group_dialog[/URL]

If all you are looking for is sex with very high end chicks the mansion isn't really the place to go.

The girls at the mansion are mostly 7's with a few 8's in the bunch. But they are friendly. Will party with you all night and go out with you on the town if you like and are very GFE on average.

Here is the profile of a mansion chick that is fairly popular right now. She is good in bed and will hang all day or all night for about a third of the price you will pay for Vane or Jennifer Zapata's friends.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jeni.pc[/URL][/QUOTE]Any advice on getting Vane to reply? I have tried to reach out on IG but she hasn't responded. That is one girl I have to see.

[QUOTE=Bill;2151301]Room pic is no longer accurate!

Ok years ago when new.

No flowers, lamp, orange bed accents, extra pillows, carpet, drapes that hang properly or windows that close tightly or lock. ymmv

Aircon and room safe do not work.

Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Actually my rooms have looked pretty much like that, always have had orange accent blanket and pillows, lamp, some had carpet, some had white tile, my windows all locked but I kept them open and needed a blanket by morning and I am out of the room most of the day so I didn't care much about the A/C (I put the fan in the window), dual layer drapes, true the safe does not work but I don't expect too much for $26 a night, this is a photo of one of my rooms after I messed it up some.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2151296]First off, I want to say thank you to everyone on the board, especially Wolf, you really were generous and made my trip easy as possible. I arrived to Medellin on Monday, stayed through Friday. I absolutely banged 4-5 girls each day. I have no limit on money I spend, because I came for particulars. I was able to bang each girl I set eyes on and get pics and video of everyone of'them for a set price. I was at Fase dos and a girl wanted $600 mil cop for a session, but she wasn't clear on what she would allow me to do and I wasn't with the BS. So I'll try again when I return. I was impressed, met a girl, met her family, ate & slept at her house and I will return within the month. Best part about my new girlfriend, she helps me locate girls, bang'them, take pics and helps me to record. I have very particular wants so I laid a ground plan to achieve what I wanted. I wanted specifically morenas, 1 Gorda, 1 senora mayor like 55 to 65 years old. I have already established a relationship with like 6-7 girls, and I'll return every 2-3 weeks. Even a ticket, plus hotel fee, plus girl fee, is much much much cheaper than the US. I found a place I like and I have no intention of turning it a loose until I'm tired of these girls. I actually made money on the trip, go figure! I took 15 J-7 prime samsungs phones that a friend gave to me for a little of nothing and was able to sell them for $300 mil a piece. I love Medellin. When time permits I will begin to post pics. Some girls are prideful some are not, I lost a little plata and spent a little pretty well. It's very similar to Puerto Rican Barrios. Personally, I absolutely loved my trip. I'm at work, but I'm trying to find some more J7 primes for my quick return. If you got a few hundred of throw away cash, in Medellin, you should be able to get nearly anything done in Medellin![/QUOTE]Where or how did you find ladies in the age range of 55 to 65? I'm in my 70's and prefer older women. In general, young chicas don't relate to older guys. I will be going to a Spanish school (advanced) near Parque Lleras during the month of August. From what I have read it seemed as if the street walkers in el Centro might be the best bet to find a vieja. Something more upscale would be good. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151253]Do you speak some Spanish?

A guy with zero Spanish language skills can get in trouble if he can't defuse any tension with a joke or understand what the drunk guy is going on about.

Is he talking about Club Atltico Nacional's latest win or asking you for your wallet? Big difference in the outcome and how you respond.[/QUOTE]Yes I do. But I'm not there for the conversation, or even the girls, although I do enjoy the scenery. I'm there for the grubby ambiance.

I didn't realize tomorrow is a voting day and headed to El Centro just before 6 pm. That being the time when all alcohol sales have to stop. With all the bars either closed or closing, everyone was out in the streets. Too crowded for casual strolling, so I did a quick lap then headed home.

I'm not saying that everyone should rush to El Centro and treat it like Disneyland. I've seen the way many of the mongers walk. They're either oblivious to the world around them, walking like they're looking for a place to run and hide, or walking like they're looking for a fight.

I walk like I belong there. I'm not in a hurry and I'm not gawking like a kid in a candy store. If some chica tries to grab me, I block her attempt say "no. Gracias" and keep moving. If someone gets too close behind me, I move to the side and let them pass. I've wandered through the industrial areas further west a few times, during the day. There's no reason to go there, I just wanted to see what's on those streets.

If you're just here for a few days of fucking, take Wolf662's advice. Stick to taxis and don't wander around. If you're here for the duration, you'll eventually want to go beyond your immediate neighborhood.

[QUOTE=HorHay;2151394]Where or how did you find ladies in the age range of 55 to 65? I'm in my 70's and prefer older women. In general, young chicas don't relate to older guys. I will be going to a Spanish school (advanced) near Parque Lleras during the month of August. From what I have read it seemed as if the street walkers in el Centro might be the best bet to find a vieja. Something more upscale would be good. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply. In the beginning you will over pay. I have a girlfriend in Medellin, I stay at her house. Met the mother, grandma and grandpa. Told the mother what I do as far as sex goes and why I needed those particular ages, they told me, they would get the women for me, they did and helped me film them as well. In Medellin and other places where money is needed. Money moves mountains and people can see when you are serious about your hobby. My girlfriend & new in-laws found the women for me and probably took a portion of the pay? Thats how I obtained finding all of the girls I wanted!

[QUOTE=HorHay;2151394]Where or how did you find ladies in the age range of 55 to 65? I'm in my 70's and prefer older women. In general, young chicas don't relate to older guys. I will be going to a Spanish school (advanced) near Parque Lleras during the month of August. From what I have read it seemed as if the street walkers in el Centro might be the best bet to find a vieja. Something more upscale would be good. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]I was keeping my eyes open to help Pollo Negro in his quest and the only place I saw anybody over 35 was the Vera Cruz street block, IE Behind the old white Vera Cruz church next to Plaza Bolivar, on Carrera 53 between Calle 51 & 52, even there they are mostly younger but I saw one who was in the 45 to 50+ range.

Maybe Pollo will chime in if he had any luck in that age range and where.

Went back to New Life around noon. Less crowded than yesterday. Chose tall chocolate enhanced 26 year old Paisa named Canela. Her name should be Coco I told her. She laughed. Had hour session with her. Had humongous assets that she used very well. Gave me a full body massage with just her ass and some lotion LOL. Allowed me to fuck the ass as well. Very nice session. She asked if she could come over tonight. I told her we would see. Exchanged numbers and went on the hunt.

Amigas Sexxy Cra. 45 d #57-67.

About 15-20 girls. Most doable. Two girls stood out to me. The first was this Blanco dark haired enhanced older looking lady that I remembered my friend sessioned with in Barranquilla LOL. These girls move around. The one I chose was 26 year old Camila from Venezuela. I usually a body guy over face but their weren't any outstanding bodies there and her face was so beautiful. She has these plump lips and dark hair. Very pretty in my opinion. She was very attentive and smiled alot during sex. She had a see section scar though one kid that was six years old. The pussy was relatively tight and made for a good session. 48 k for 30 minutes.

I was tired after the session. Went and grabbed some lunch. Set up a date a Latinamericancupid girl for later and took a nap.

Woke up around 7 pm. Decided to go downtown. Conejitas, Barra Executiva, and Maracaibo were all closed. Asked a taxi driver and he said it was because of the election. How unfortunate. Called my date for the night. Sent her an Uber to meet me in Poblado dormir dinner. Date went well. She decided to come back to the apartment with me even though she kept saying I shouldn't stay in Centro because it's dangerous. She felt more at ease when she was in the apartment. Watched some Netflix and did the deed before sleeping like a baby.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151478]I was keeping my eyes open to help Pollo Negro in his quest and the only place I saw anybody over 35 was the Vera Cruz street block, IE Behind the old white Vera Cruz church next to Plaza Bolivar, on Carrera 53 between Calle 51 & 52, even there they are mostly younger but I saw one who was in the 45 to 50+ range.

Maybe Pollo will chime in if he had any luck in that age range and where.[/QUOTE]But my in laws have assured me that they will have them for me when I return in 2 weeks. Everything I asked for, Wolf and others assisted me. The women around parque Botero can be very picky about pics or recording. But if you give them a number that they can't refuse, you'll get any activities your heart desires!

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2151369]Any advice on getting Vane to reply? I have tried to reach out on IG but she hasn't responded. That is one girl I have to see.[/QUOTE]If she doesn't respond to your friend request on facebook then I would write her (on facebook) and be very upfront about what you want and what you are willing to pay.

I have never used IG to get in touch with her.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2151236]Never bee in Medelllin yet, but I search and many advertised places or girls claim to be students, maybe is true, maybe is more marketing, but I think more likely they were students, but they quit and started to work and, but some maybe doing this because are willing to go back to university. Some day. I don't care if they are studying or not, unless I want to take them out and have a good conversation, but I do prefer them with young looking and not surgery.

Go to mileroticos and search for "universitarias".

For example this is one result.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/chicas-universitarias/9672570/[/URL]

I suppose all working girls should be adults, and over 18+, to work in a casa, right?[/QUOTE]If you Whatsapp the madam at this place, she will send you the pictures of the chicas currently working. There are only 3 to 4 chicas working and the place has only two rooms. The shower is small. However I did have the 2 best sex experiences at this place November 2017. The chicas are open to direction as long as you are willing to tip 30 k to 50 k.

The caveat about this being the best place I visited is that I was having illness problems during the week I was there so I did not get around as much as usually do.

Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.

I was surprised your first report (excellent by the way) did not cover Amigas Sexxy, but now I see why. You had it in reserve for volume two. I think Amigas is similar to New Life in terms of quantity of girls and good condition of the rooms. It's smaller than New Life (isn't everyplace smaller than new life? LOL!) and a little off the beaten path. I'm looking forward to more of your reports, it's fun reading.

[QUOTE=Global00;2151598]Went back to New Life around noon. Less crowded than yesterday. Chose tall chocolate enhanced 26 year old Paisa named Canela. Her name should be Coco I told her. She laughed. Had hour session with her. Had humongous assets that she used very well. Gave me a full body massage with just her ass and some lotion LOL. Allowed me to fuck the ass as well. Very nice session. She asked if she could come over tonight. I told her we would see. Exchanged numbers and went on the hunt.

Amigas Sexxy Cra. 45 d #57-67.

About 15-20 girls. Most doable. Two girls stood out to me. The first was this Blanco dark haired enhanced older looking lady that I remembered my friend sessioned with in Barranquilla LOL. These girls move around. The one I chose was 26 year old Camila from Venezuela. I usually a body guy over face but their weren't any outstanding bodies there and her face was so beautiful. She has these plump lips and dark hair. Very pretty in my opinion. She was very attentive and smiled alot during sex. She had a see section scar though one kid that was six years old. The pussy was relatively tight and made for a good session. 48 k for 30 minutes..[/QUOTE]

You can usually find some veterans behind Veracruz but upscale is not a way anyone would describe the scene. Something he could try is asking youngsters if they can recommend a mother or aunt. I've seen guys have success with that.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151478]I was keeping my eyes open to help Pollo Negro in his quest and the only place I saw anybody over 35 was the Vera Cruz street block, IE Behind the old white Vera Cruz church next to Plaza Bolivar, on Carrera 53 between Calle 51 & 52, even there they are mostly younger but I saw one who was in the 45 to 50+ range.

Maybe Pollo will chime in if he had any luck in that age range and where.[/QUOTE]

So this is a good question I think, something about which I have no idea. What options are there in Centro for more upscale rooms with safes, working A/C, and such? I'm guessing there can't be many options because the demand isn't likely very high. Maybe we can start a new market for it.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151372]Actually my rooms have looked pretty much like that, always have had orange accent blanket and pillows, lamp, some had carpet, some had white tile, my windows all locked but I kept them open and needed a blanket by morning and I am out of the room most of the day so I didn't care much about the A/C (I put the fan in the window), dual layer drapes, true the safe does not work but I don't expect too much for $26 a night, this is a photo of one of my rooms after I messed it up some.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

What kind of girl is she? Like really special? What kinda rates would she need?

Info for my next trip LOL.

M.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2151701]If she doesn't respond to your friend request on facebook then I would write her (on facebook) and be very upfront about what you want and what you are willing to pay.

I have never used IG to get in touch with her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2151702]If you Whatsapp the madam at this place, she will send you the pictures of the chicas currently working. There are only 3 to 4 chicas working and the place has only two rooms. The shower is small. However I did have the 2 best sex experiences at this place November 2017. The chicas are open to direction as long as you are willing to tip 30 k to 50 k.[/QUOTE]Address or name of the place might be helpful. I have a 32" monitor and still can't make out the numbers on the door and even then you would need to know the street it's on.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Too many variables to really say without knowing more. First of all, how long do you have? What part of the World are you coming from? If you live in the Eastern / middle USA, I wouldn't advise Thailand unless you have at least two weeks. Also, what type of women do you like? Do you prefer Asians or Latinas? What is your language proficiency?

Also, I'd look at the weather charts for when you'll be traveling. Both countries have wet and dry seasons.

Having said that, they're both great destinations.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Do you think Latina's or Asians are hotter, and how much do you like to fly?

I tell you what decides it for me, Medellin is 3-1/3 HR flight from Florida for $300+ on Spirit. Or $200+- on VivaCombia or $500+- on American.

Bangkok is 29 hrs +- and $1200+- and Spanish is easier to learn to me. From West coast might be a little cheaper and a few less hours on plane to Thailand. But still more then I like.

That being said Asia is safer crime-wise.

I don't know Thai prices but Colombian girls start at $10 and up.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2151726]So this is a good question I think, something about which I have no idea. What options are there in Centro for more upscale rooms with safes, working A/C, and such? I'm guessing there can't be many options because the demand isn't likely very high. Maybe we can start a new market for it.[/QUOTE]There are a few, just don't know their Chica policy, here's some:

(I want to walk a short a distance as possible to the Centro strip clubs and airport bus so I stick with Botero).

Grand Hotel $60+ has pool.

Calle 54 No. 45 - 92.

Hotel Mi Colombia $35+.

Calle 50 No 46- 14.

Hotel 47 Medellin Street $32+.

Calle 47 #45-47.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2151693]But my in laws have assured me that they will have them for me when I return in 2 weeks. Everything I asked for, Wolf and others assisted me. The women around parque Botero can be very picky about pics or recording. But if you give them a number that they can't refuse, you'll get any activities your heart desires![/QUOTE]There are usually several in the Veracruz alley. One looks to be well into her 50's. There's one that hangs out on the east side of the Raudal block. Older, fat, with enormous tits. A few others at the corner of the Veracruz alley by the panaderia.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]I have been to both and you can PM me. I like them both but Colombia is a lot easier to get to. Also, I prefer Bogotá to Medellín by a fairly wide margin, and do not like Phuket.

I would absolutely agree Bogota is better. The only thing Medellin has over weather and that is smaller so it's easier to get around. And to answer your question about Asia or Latin America. Latin America is the clear winner. You can find girls with body types like Asians in Latin America. You will rarely find a woman that looks like a Latina in Asia. You can get girlfriend experience in both. An abundance of beautiful women in both. Each culture adds it's own twist but both will leave you satisfied. I just think Latin America is much better but if you can try both.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2151873]I have been to both and you can PM me. I like them both but Colombia is a lot easier to get to. Also, I prefer Bogot to Medelln by a fairly wide margin, and do not like Phuket.[/QUOTE]

Hey all,

Planning my 2nd trip to MDE and will be staying at the mansion. Building an FB list of girls. Could someone share few contacts? I can keep collaborating and then share back with the group or through PMs.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2151722]You can usually find some veterans behind Veracruz but upscale is not a way anyone would describe the scene. Something he could try is asking youngsters if they can recommend a mother or aunt. I've seen guys have success with that.[/QUOTE]Woops, I meant Plaza Botero, not Bolivar in my response.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]Go to Thailand. Its more first timer friendly.

Unfortunately the Kingdom has been gringofied to the point of girl prices at least doubled while the service and attitudes have decreased.

The same effects on Medellin have already begun.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2151472]I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply. In the beginning you will over pay. I have a girlfriend in Medellin, I stay at her house. Met the mother, grandma and grandpa. Told the mother what I do as far as sex goes and why I needed those particular ages, they told me, they would get the women for me, they did and helped me film them as well. In Medellin and other places where money is needed. Money moves mountains and people can see when you are serious about your hobby. My girlfriend & new in-laws found the women for me and probably took a portion of the pay? Thats how I obtained finding all of the girls I wanted![/QUOTE]Ohhh geez.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151774]Address or name of the place might be helpful. I have a 32" monitor and still can't make out the numbers on the door and even then you would need to know the street it's on.[/QUOTE]University Girls from Miloeroticos Address: Calle 32 F # 65 4 Belen Fatima. +57 3002350414. It is included in the Medellin list thread. If you are enjoying the the Central casas then you will find this place too expensive and there is no need to go. I brought it up because someone linked in their report. I will re-link.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/chicas-universitarias-mucho-sexo-sala-de-masajes-la-mejor-de-medellin/8323341/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bill;2151911]Go to Thailand. Its more first timer friendly.

Unfortunately the Kingdom has been gringofied to the point of girl prices at least doubled while the service and attitudes have decreased.

The same effects on Medellin have already begun.[/QUOTE]Doubled how? Yeah if you go into those gogo shits. There are 1 million ways to monger here and a gogo is only the most expensive way. I still get my chicks for $30 all night like I am giving the chick sleeping next to me now (and it is 1pm) with maximum GFE.

If some poor sap wants to come along and give them $100 then that is on him. My rent is $125/month and the minimum wage here is $10/day, so why give someone 10 times that? I know because back home it would cost bla bla bla.

But come on over to Thailand. The water is fine. Sucks that I have to leave in a few days to go spend time with my girlfriend in Colombia though.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]If you do not speak Spanish, Thailand.

Almost all girls there speak 'some' English. In Colombia only one out of 100 and trust me, it's no fun with 0 communication.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2151704]Just wondering if anyone here has been to both Thailand and Colombia and which one they preferred. And why. I am taking a trip late this year and I am on the fence on which place to go. I am certainly going to fuck lots of girls. Threesomes and all the fun I can fit in 2 weeks. Any feedback would be great.[/QUOTE]I visited both in 2016 (yes it was a good year for me). If you live in the Western Hemisphere, Colombia is a hell of a lot easier to get to, though not proportionally cheaper unless you live in South Florida. DFW to MDE was like 7 hours total versus 25 hours to the Land of Smiles. If you are in Europe, probably the transit times might not be so different. I don't know where you are coming from and won't make assumptions.

As far as pure fun, Thailand takes the prize. Probably much more to see and do overall, crime is not a big concern, and in some places the action is really in your face. A big factor should be whether you prefer pretty Latinas versus pretty Asians. I've got "yellow fever" at the moment and if you go to Thailand you might contract the same affliction.

Colombia has its merits though and I would like to return soon. The action is very much behind closed doors there, and you don't really get to see what your choices are till you get there. If you have little time and are in North America, I think Colombia is a great option, and I plan to return myself. But if I have time away from the job, I will be heading to Asia, as I am in a few days.

My latinamericancupid girl got up early and went to church. Said she would come back later tonight. Sleep for a little longer. Got up, showered and at breakfast. Walked to chico con punto sessioned with Blanco with big tits. Session was decent she was passionate. Enjoyed the way those titties sat on her chest. 42 k for half an hour.

Went back home took a shower. Tried to set up some other contacts but they kept falling through. I guess round 2 with Latinamericancupid girl will have to be tonight. I also figured all the spots would be closed tonight due to the election. I started to look for girls on milerotics. Mostly all of the girls I contacted were in Laureles.

I ended up going to two apartments and a hotel all close by each other. The first one was a thick Blanca that has photoshopped her pics. So I didn't session with her. She was not happy. The second one was around the corner and had multiple girls there. But when I got there they told me the girl I wanted was on vacation. The third place I went was a hotel. A 23 curvy shaped Venezuelan. Her pictures were slightly a bit photoshopped but she still had the phat ass I seemed. She has a botched breast surgery though. The things these girls endure for the quest for beauty. Anyway, she had the best pussy since I been here. Nice and tight. Bust two nuts no rush for 100 k. She wouldn't let me take pictures though.

By this time, my latinamericancupid was blowing up my phone. Told her I would send Uber to come pick her up in an hour for dinner. Went home and took a shower. Sent the Uber to pick her up. Had a nice dinner then Netflix and fuck session to put me to bed to wrap up a decent weekend.

Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2152170]Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.[/QUOTE]What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152185]What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?[/QUOTE]Does it matter? Dead is dead.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2152227]Does it matter? Dead is dead.[/QUOTE]If it's a vehicle accident I'm not worried about it affecting my safety in El Poblado.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152305]If it's a vehicle accident I'm not worried about it affecting my safety in El Poblado.[/QUOTE]And if it was a shooting I wouldn't worry about it affecting my safety in Poblado. Not that I'm in Poblado or in taxis often these days.

Of course you could always stay in Poblado and take the bus to Él Centro. Catch it on Avenida Poblado at Calle 10 and catch it on Oriental to go back to Poblado.

You didn't seem like the Poblado type to me.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152185]What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?[/QUOTE]A lot of questions from just looking at those photos. With only the rear window broken in the taxi, without other damage, would indicate a shooting. But why would the dead person be outside the taxi in another part of the highway? Also, the motorcycle helmet on the taxi raises the question, was the dead person riding a motorcycle? If it was a car / motorcycle collision, there should be other damage to the taxi. I am surprised there aren't more motorcycle accidents, considering the way the cyclists drive.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152305]If it's a vehicle accident I'm not worried about it affecting my safety in El Poblado.[/QUOTE]There is a video to go with it. 2 guys going the opposite way on a bike. The one got off the back and went over and popped the cab driver and the passenger. From the looks of it he broke the window with the helmet. He left the helmet behind and went and jumped back on the bike. It was filmed by a kid that was in one of the cars behind the taxi. In the video you hear the gunshots and you see the guy run and get back on the bike and they drive away.

My take would be that the taxista was the target and the passenger was killed so as not to leave any testigos. Taxis are dangerous for a lot of reasons, and I always advise people not to give the taxi their actual destination, but something say two blocks away. Obviously, this dilutes the value of taking a taxi in the first place. Uber, never give them the actual destination address, only close by. Uber drivers have all their pickup address in their phones and can sell these to burglars and other such lowlifes. Never, ever, include your apartment number when dealing with any of these services. The doormen sell out the apt numbers of the gringos as it is.

Bump. Any inputs?

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2151888]Hey all,

Planning my 2nd trip to MDE and will be staying at the mansion. Building an FB list of girls. Could someone share few contacts? I can keep collaborating and then share back with the group or through PMs.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2151991]Doubled how? Yeah if you go into those gogo shits. There are 1 million ways to monger here and a gogo is only the most expensive way. I still get my chicks for $30 all night like I am giving the chick sleeping next to me now (and it is 1pm) with maximum GFE.

If some poor sap wants to come along and give them $100 then that is on him. My rent is $125/month and the minimum wage here is $10/day, so why give someone 10 times that? I know because back home it would cost bla bla bla.

But come on over to Thailand. The water is fine. Sucks that I have to leave in a few days to go spend time with my girlfriend in Colombia though.[/QUOTE]Answered your own question gogos.

You paid double what a girl like that can be had from beach road.

Tmi.

Holy crap! That looks like it was his last ride. There are far scarier traffic scenes around the world than Medellin but the city of eternal spring certainly has its moments. Las Palmas Avenue is infamous for street racing. If you want to see accidents, that's the place to go. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2152170]Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.[/QUOTE]

I see a motorcycle helmet on top of the taxi. It looks like it could be police color. Most riders seem to go with basic black. The blood trail looks like the guy might have skidded off a motorcycle. That concludes this episode of CSI ISG.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152185]What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?[/QUOTE]

Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?

It is a good area. I prefer Laureles and Envigado to Poblado. There is no "safe enough" areas in Colombia. Laureles appear to be safe, but a Japanese tourist resisted a robbery and was killed there last year. Do not trust the appearance of neighborhood, and always be careful. Overall, I would recommend Laureles.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2152459]Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Chaman;2151236]Never bee in Medelllin yet, but I search and many advertised places or girls claim to be students, maybe is true, maybe is more marketing, but I think more likely they were students, but they quit and started to work and, but some maybe doing this because are willing to go back to university. Some day. I don't care if they are studying or not, unless I want to take them out and have a good conversation, but I do prefer them with young looking and not surgery.

Go to mileroticos and search for "universitarias".

For example this is one result.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/chicas-universitarias/9672570/[/URL]

I suppose all working girls should be adults, and over 18+, to work in a casa, right?[/QUOTE]$150 US dollars in Colombia? WTF. That's 3-4 regular sessions, or 8-10 casa sessions.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2152361]My take would be that the taxista was the target and the passenger was killed so as not to leave any testigos. Taxis are dangerous for a lot of reasons, and I always advise people not to give the taxi their actual destination, but something say two blocks away. Obviously, this dilutes the value of taking a taxi in the first place. Uber, never give them the actual destination address, only close by. Uber drivers have all their pickup address in their phones and can sell these to burglars and other such lowlifes. Never, ever, include your apartment number when dealing with any of these services. The doormen sell out the apt numbers of the gringos as it is.[/QUOTE]When you come in from the airport, do you always get dropped off two blocks away from your hotel / apartment?

Do you invite Chicas back to your apartment? You better be careful, they might sell your apartment number to Bandito! Do you buy groceries / beer and bring them back to your apartment? You better be careful, the guy bagging your groceries may sell your whereabouts to burglar!

El Mechanico.

Yes, but you must keep your wits about you.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2152459]Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?[/QUOTE]

In all fairness I think most of you guys should just stay home. To live a life of constant worry is a terrible thing. Yes there is danger in any big city. To me it is a question of risk against reward. Myself I will go to a place that has beautiful willing women who are not indoctrinated by the USA feminists. I have been to Latin America more times than I remember. I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky, but I live life not as a scared rabbit.

Right now I think there is more danger in the so called non third world country's. The real bad guys don't care about Latin America. They have bigger fish to fry.

OK so you are walking in Centro at night. If a guy pulls a gun or knife there is a simple thing to do. Give up the few pesos in your pocket, and go on your way. I hope you have sense enough to not walk the streets with a big roll of cash. So who cares if you lose 50 K or a cheap cell phone?

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2152459]Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?[/QUOTE]Obviously it depends on you. While Laureles is a relatively nice neighborhood, there is a fair amount of street crime. If you're visiting alone, you're likely going to want to walk around the neighborhood you're staying in. Walking alone on La Setenta or la 33 (two party streets in Laureles) after dark is problematic. Whereas walking alone around Poblado at night is generally fine (though certain areas like Patio Bonito and Manila can be a bit dangerous).

IMO for a first visit, Poblado is better.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2152170]Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Is really bus is safer?

On news they said passanger was linked to criminal bands, or was maybe a robbery.

[URL]https://www.bluradio.com/medellin/en-video-quedo-registrado-el-asesinato-de-alias-orejas-desmovilizado-de-las-auc-171266[/URL]

[QUOTE=Global00;2152156]Walked to chico con punto sessioned with Blanco with big tits. Session was decent she was passionate. Enjoyed the way those titties sat on her chest. 42 k for half an hour.

The first one was a thick Blanca that has photoshopped her pics. So I didn't session with her. She was not happy.

The third place I went was a hotel. A 23 curvy shaped Venezuelan. Her pictures were slightly a bit photoshopped but she still had the phat ass I seemed. She has a botched breast surgery though. The things these girls endure for the quest for beauty. Anyway, she had the best pussy since I been here. Nice and tight. Bust two nuts no rush for 100 k. She wouldn't let me take pictures though.

By this time, my latinamericancupid was blowing up my phone. Told her I would send Uber to come pick her up in an hour for dinner. Went home and took a shower. Sent the Uber to pick her up. Had a nice dinner then Netflix and fuck session to put me to bed to wrap up a decent weekend.[/QUOTE]Heck Yeah, Sunday Funday with Funbags. My man. 2 great finds. Big tits honey and a sweet ass Venezuelan. That's a 'hellova' good day!

The girl who was not happy, LOL, fuck her. She is posting fake photos.

How much was the latinamericancupid honey?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2152170]Yet another reason to ride the bus and stay in centro instead of taking a taxi and staying in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Playing CSI@ISG is fun, as many attempted after your post, but I rather suggest to use Google to find news on local newspapers. These two articles provide some information on this incident.

[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/doble-homicidio-en-la-avenida-las-palmas-JD8306865[/URL]
[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/investigaciones-sobre-doble-homicidio-en-las-palmas-KI8309963[/URL]

Also a third person was injured, a guy who was just passing by on his bike and got a random ball in his leg.

She really didn't ask me for anything. All she wanted was a relacion seria conmigo. I did give her the rest of money I had leftover before I left so about 160 K. I have been very successful on that site albeit not as successful on the site in Medellin. I was only able to meet two of the like 10 girls I connected with on the site.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2152577]Heck Yeah, Sunday Funday with Funbags. My man. 2 great finds. Big tits honey and a sweet ass Venezuelan. That's a 'hellova' good day!

The girl who was not happy, LOL, fuck her. She is posting fake photos.

How much was the latinamericancupid honey?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2152459]Is Laureles safe enough for a poor Spanish speaking first timer?[/QUOTE]The short answer is yes. The longer answer is, it depends on where in Laureles. There are areas at the fringes of Poblado where you probably don't want to go, especially after dark. The same is true in Laureles, especially in the area between Laureles and El Centro. Fortunately, there's no real reason to go to those areas, except to pass through in a taxi.

The detailed answer:

I spent 9 months living in Poblado and frequently walked from the south end at La Frontera, to Parque Lleras, or walked back. Several times I made the walk after midnight (waiting until the bars close to try and catch a taxi is a bad idea). At no time did I have any problems.

I've spent the last 2 months living in Laureles. During this time, I've spent a lot of time walking around. I've done a fair amount of walking after dark and haven't had any problems. Maybe it's just me.

If you stay in Laureles, stay in the area between Avenida Bolivariana, Calle 33, Avenida Nutibara and Calle 44, unless you're staying along Carrera 70. Then you can stay north of Calle 44 just stay south of the metro station at Estadio.

Along Carrera 70 are plenty of bars and restaurants, most are inexpensive. Plenty of people out at night, especially Thursday thru Saturday. Huge crowds and serious party atmosphere whenever Atletico Nacional has a home game. Heavy police presence on those nights. There are a few girls who work the street and clubs at night, but they're harder to spot than the girls in Parque Lleras. They keep a much lower profile.

Except for Calle 44 and Calle 33, the side streets within the area defined above are nice, residential streets with plenty of small restaurants and stores scattered around. My street has a security guard who rides through on a bicycle all night long.

Parque Lleras is the upper class party area. Everything is more expensive. It has more food and party options. La Setenta (Carrera 70) is the middle class party area. Beer costs about 1/2 of the Lleras price, same with food. The hotel options in Laureles are more reasonable.

One rarely mentioned advantage of Laureles, no hills. Almost anywhere in Poblado you'll be walking up and down the hills. If you're coming from sea level, are older and not in good physical condition, you're going to end up taking a lot of short taxi rides because of the hills.

If you want more glitz and glamour and want to be around more gringos, spend the money and stay in Poblado near Parque Lleras. If you want the party atmosphere with a decent level of comfort, stay in Laureles and save 20 - 30%. If you want the cheapest of everything, save 50% and stay in El Centro.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2152185]What happened? I can't tell other than the damaged taxi and dead person. Was this a robbery or an accident?[/QUOTE]Assassination (hit) of a specific target, being the Colombian passenger of the taxi, a member of the demobilized AUC block: Bloque Heroes de Granada de las Autodefensas. The assassinated passenger is a known criminal offender linked to the Pachelly crime group (Pachelly is a sector of Bello), which conducts a good part of its criminal action in the north of Valle de Aburra.

Stray bullet from one of the 4 assassins hit and injured a 3rd guy in the leg, who was an autonomous motorcyclist driving in the area at the time of the hit.

File under: Retaliation/revenge between criminal organizations.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2127844]I prefer the Sugar Baby type girls off SeekingArrangements etc and it is akin to dating, my longest SB relationship was a stripper who lived with me off and on for 5 years. She had some substance abuse problems but was very hot & fun to me. She was 18 when we met and she just turned 30 last year. LOL.[/QUOTE]I personally like using some sugar baby dating services for finding such girls. Have you tried [URL=https://www.facebook.com/SecretBenefitsOfficial/]Secret Benefits[/URL]? It is one of them and works perfectly for me. I think you might find it interesting too, good luck with it!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;2152707]Assassination (hit) of a specific target, being the Colombian passenger of the taxi, a member of the demobilized AUC block: Bloque Heroes de Granada de las Autodefensas. The assassinated passenger is a known criminal offender linked to the Pachelly crime group (Pachelly is a sector of Bello), which conducts a good part of its criminal action in the north of Valle de Aburra.

Stray bullet from one of the 4 assassins hit and injured a 3rd guy in the leg, who was an autonomous motorcyclist driving in the area at the time of the hit.

File under: Retaliation/revenge between criminal organizations.[/QUOTE]So, unless you're a member of a criminal organization, whether you take a taxi or bus probably doesn't matter much.

[QUOTE=Kesroe;2152817]I personally like using some sugar baby dating services for finding such girls. Have you tried [URL=https://www.facebook.com/SecretBenefitsOfficial/]Secret Benefits[/URL]? It is one of them and works perfectly for me. I think you might find it interesting too, good luck with it![/QUOTE]Sure, SecretBenefits, WhatsYourPrice, SeekingArrangements, [URL]SugarDaddie.com[/URL] have all been useful. I still like SA the best though.

I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2149528]Well the mansion is booked, both houses. 3 months in advance. My Spanish is bad. Though, not non existent. I have spent about a month in Sosua and Jaco, over the past 9 months. So I picked up some, and can communicate (and flirt) with good old fashion google translate. I always travel solo, as it pretty much makes the experience so much better. Except Jaco. Jaco sucks.

Would Cartagena be better because of the tourism factor?

I am opting for a nice airbnb with a sick view.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2152495]When you come in from the airport, do you always get dropped off two blocks away from your hotel / apartment?

Do you invite Chicas back to your apartment? You better be careful, they might sell your apartment number to Bandito! Do you buy groceries / beer and bring them back to your apartment? You better be careful, the guy bagging your groceries may sell your whereabouts to burglar!El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?

[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2152951]I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.[/QUOTE]It's only overrated if you are the one that doesn't speak it. My first trip to Colombia 12 years ago I did not have more than ten words of Spanish and I had a great time but now that I speak pretty good Spanish it is a million times better.

Until and unless you speak the language, you will never be able to develop meaningful relationships. You will always get ripped off on pricing, and you will never know who your real friends are. Aside from that, it is overrated.

I agree with the meaningful relationships. With respect to true friends and everything else, "never" is a very strong word. After all, we can have the misfortune of being misled by fake friends and con jobs who speak the same language. Sure, it's easier to sense deceit when you don't have to figure out what someone is saying but real con men rely on connecting with their marks. Sometimes when the marks feel vulnerable and the con man is the only one who speaks the mark's language. "Always ripped off on prices" is maybe an explanation for the popularity of places like New Life where prices are posted on the wall with English explanations. I think I learned something from this today.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2152976]Until and unless you speak the language, you will never be able to develop meaningful relationships. You will always get ripped off on pricing, and you will never know who your real friends are. Aside from that, it is overrated.[/QUOTE]

Speaking only for myself, I believe I would I would rate Spanish fluency as more important if it were higher up on the list of accomplishments that have benefited me in life. Looking at it from another angle, while I don't doubt learning Mandarin, Thai, or Slavic languages would enhance my experiences when I visit countries where they are spoken, I don't really feel like I'm missing out on enough that I'm going to try to convince people they can't enjoy themselves without language immersion. I'm convinced it is a plus to be multilingual but I feel no need to hammer at the point and tell people what they can and can't do without language ability. My advice is go and see for yourself, decide if you want to devote the time to language learning or if you are satisfied with your experiences without it.

[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2152951]I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2152953]Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?[/QUOTE]My goodness, I was joking about your over cautiousness. Damn man!! How many times has a taxi driver or uber driver sold your hotel / apt intel to a ladron? I have always enjoyed your posts but to suggest that someone be dropped off or picked up 2 blocks from their hotel, especially by an uber drive (where you constantly have to be on the phone checking where they are and how long they will be) is stupidity at its lowest level. You suggested we walk 2 blocks the order an Uber? Really? Get dropped off 2 blocks from your hotel then have to walk the streets back to your hotel? Really? If you don't trust your hotel / apartment enough to be dropped off there, you need to get another hotel / apartment!!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2152538]In all fairness I think most of you guys should just stay home. To live a life of constant worry is a terrible thing. Yes there is danger in any big city. To me it is a question of risk against reward. Myself I will go to a place that has beautiful willing women who are not indoctrinated by the USA feminists. I have been to Latin America more times than I remember. I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky, but I live life not as a scared rabbit.

Right now I think there is more danger in the so called non third world country's. The real bad guys don't care about Latin America. They have bigger fish to fry.

OK so you are walking in Centro at night. If a guy pulls a gun or knife there is a simple thing to do. Give up the few pesos in your pocket, and go on your way. I hope you have sense enough to not walk the streets with a big roll of cash. So who cares if you lose 50 K or a cheap cell phone?[/QUOTE]You said what I have always thought. Nothing happens till it happens and if one is so afraid of it happening, they need to skip (fill in the blank) & watch a murder mystery on Netflix from the comfort of their couch. Get dropped of 2 blocks from your hotel so the bad guys won't know where you are staying? You would be putting yourself at 10 X more risk by walking the 2 blocks back to your hotel!! Most assinine post I have read on this forum!!

Kelso, you are correct & I agree with you!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2152953]Why would I take a taxi from the airport when there is a perfectly good bus for 1/20 of the price? I take chicas to love motels until I know them better. How would the guy bagging my groceries know where I lived?[/QUOTE]Why would anyone pay 190 k for a taxi from the airport? Or where's the bus for 3250 COP?

If you need to get out 2 blocks away or hide where you're staying from everyone, maybe you're staying in the wrong place. Even without a porter, I have no worries about anyone knowing where I live. Unless someone wants to lob a grenade up from the street, I think I'll be okay.

I used to use William also. For airport trips and trips out of town. But he got himself on one of the USA TV shows a while back. And has been trying to focus on doing tours for regular folks. His daughter was working with him. He starting farming me out on cab rides or just cancelling, so I stopped using him. I also rented a few apartments from him. I thought of him as a friend at the time also. I have no idea if he will do a casa or strip club tour any more. If guess if he's not busy and the money is right, he'd do it. But I bet you can get the same service much cheaper from others.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;2118642]When I first went to Medellin about 6 or 7 years ago I used a guy named William. He knows all the places. But I think in the last couple years he has been doing good just doing regular tourist stuff. So, I don't think he does the tours of lady places so much anymore. But I know he will still do it. He probably charges more these days though, and the last couple years he always seems busy. You can Google Best Guide Medellin. He will be the first listed website. Since he always seems busy I don't even tell him when I go to Medellin anymore. We used to be pretty close as friends for awhile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2152970]It's only overrated if you are the one that doesn't speak it. My first trip to Colombia 12 years ago I did not have more than ten words of Spanish and I had a great time but now that I speak pretty good Spanish it is a million times better.[/QUOTE]Right on the money amigo!

How can anyone really believe that speaking the native language is not a HUGE advantage with everything.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2152538]I have been lost in MDE Centro at 3 AM, and all I got was help to find the strip club I was looking for. Yes I was lucky,[/QUOTE]Lucky how? That is normal downtown. I think people on this board are just scared of how it looks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2153121]Lucky how? That is normal downtown. I think people on this board are just scared of how it looks.[/QUOTE]A lot of people on this board are scared of El Centro and some of their fears are unreasonable. However, walking around El Centro lost, at 3 am is not something that should be encouraged. There's a fair amount of ugly just a block or 2 away from all of the downtown strip clubs and around 8 to 8:30 pm the cops all disappear. Not that many cops hang out on the worst streets.

It's not too difficult to avoid problems in El Centro. It's also not too difficult to find problems in El Centro and at 3 am, if you don't know where you're at, problems are easier to find and harder to avoid.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2152698]The short answer is yes. The longer answer is, it depends on where in Laureles. There are areas at the fringes of Poblado where you probably don't want to go, especially after dark. The same is true in Laureles, especially in the area between Laureles and El Centro. Fortunately, there's no real reason to go to those areas, except to pass through in a taxi.

The detailed answer:

I spent 9 months living in Poblado and frequently walked from the south end at La Frontera, to Parque Lleras, or walked back. Several times I made the walk after midnight (waiting until the bars close to try and catch a taxi is a bad idea). At no time did I have any problems.

I've spent the last 2 months living in Laureles. During this time, I've spent a lot of time walking around. I've done a fair amount of walking after dark and haven't had any problems. Maybe it's just me.

If you stay in Laureles, stay in the area between Avenida Bolivariana, Calle 33, Avenida Nutibara and Calle 44, unless you're staying along Carrera 70. Then you can stay north of Calle 44 just stay south of the metro station at Estadio.

Along Carrera 70 are plenty of bars and restaurants, most are inexpensive. Plenty of people out at night, especially Thursday thru Saturday. Huge crowds and serious party atmosphere whenever Atletico Nacional has a home game. Heavy police presence on those nights. There are a few girls who work the street and clubs at night, but they're harder to spot than the girls in Parque Lleras. They keep a much lower profile.

Except for Calle 44 and Calle 33, the side streets within the area defined above are nice, residential streets with plenty of small restaurants and stores scattered around. My street has a security guard who rides through on a bicycle all night long.

Parque Lleras is the upper class party area. Everything is more expensive. It has more food and party options. La Setenta (Carrera 70) is the middle class party area. Beer costs about 1/2 of the Lleras price, same with food. The hotel options in Laureles are more reasonable.

One rarely mentioned advantage of Laureles, no hills. Almost anywhere in Poblado you'll be walking up and down the hills. If you're coming from sea level, are older and not in good physical condition, you're going to end up taking a lot of short taxi rides because of the hills.

If you want more glitz and glamour and want to be around more gringos, spend the money and stay in Poblado near Parque Lleras. If you want the party atmosphere with a decent level of comfort, stay in Laureles and save 20 - 30%. If you want the cheapest of everything, save 50% and stay in El Centro.[/QUOTE]I like Laureles. However, I've never found a good hotel to stay in there. There has always been one problem or another the major one being noise. If I find a nice hotel in Laureles suitable for my needs (quiet, good wifi, fridge, good breakfast, safe, etc.) I would certainly stay there.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2152919]Sure, SecretBenefits, WhatsYourPrice, SeekingArrangements, [URL]SugarDaddie.com[/URL] have all been useful. I still like SA the best though.[/QUOTE]SA has always been good to me as well. I'm planning a trip in July. I already have about a dozen newbies lined up. The hard part will be picking the ones I can get to. I won't be able to get to them all.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2153146]A lot of people on this board are scared of El Centro and some of their fears are unreasonable. However, walking around El Centro lost, at 3 am is not something that should be encouraged. There's a fair amount of ugly just a block or 2 away from all of the downtown strip clubs and around 8 to 8:30 pm the cops all disappear. Not that many cops hang out on the worst streets.

It's not too difficult to avoid problems in El Centro. It's also not too difficult to find problems in El Centro and at 3 am, if you don't know where you're at, problems are easier to find and harder to avoid.[/QUOTE]I hung out all times of the night and didn't have one problem. I truly believe no one wants to scuffle with anyone who can really scuffle.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2153306]I hung out all times of the night and didn't have one problem. I truly believe no one wants to scuffle with anyone who can really scuffle.[/QUOTE]Especially if they have unlimited amounts of money to get themselves out of whatever they get themselves into. Ja ja.

It helps, definitely.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2153088]Right on the money amigo!

How can anyone really believe that speaking the native language is not a HUGE advantage with everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2152561]Obviously it depends on you. While Laureles is a relatively nice neighborhood, there is a fair amount of street crime. If you're visiting alone, you're likely going to want to walk around the neighborhood you're staying in. Walking alone on La Setenta or la 33 (two party streets in Laureles) after dark is problematic. Whereas walking alone around Poblado at night is generally fine (though certain areas like Patio Bonito and Manila can be a bit dangerous).

IMO for a first visit, Poblado is better.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the response. I am going to do Poblado, even though in the future I suspect I will prefer Laureles. I am just having hell picking an airbnb in Poblado. I want something really nice. I guess Blux, but I am not even sure if I will run into issues there with girls, even though it says guests are OK.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2151851]There are a few, just don't know their Chica policy, here's some:

(I want to walk a short a distance as possible to the Centro strip clubs and airport bus so I stick with Botero).

Grand Hotel $60+ has pool.

Calle 54 No. 45 - 92.

Hotel Mi Colombia $35+.

Calle 50 No 46- 14.

Hotel 47 Medellin Street $32+.

Calle 47 #45-47.[/QUOTE]I like the look of some of the rooms but my biggest question is, are these hotels girl friendly and allow you to bring girls back to the room?

[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2152951]I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone...[/QUOTE]Indeed, it is not necessary to speak Spanish in order to enjoy one self in that city, but the ability to speak Spanish greatly enhances the experience, by an order of magnitude.

On my first trip to Cartagena 20 years ago, I did not speak any Spanish, but managed to have a good time. My Spanish is better now and likewise my experience is a whole lot better.

[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2152951]I don't speak much spanish and now I live in Medellin part time! Speaking spanish is over rated. You can use the translation programs on your cell phone. Even though very few people speak English there, most people are very cooperative. I would go to MDE.[/QUOTE]It's certainly possible to get by using translation apps, but speaking the local language is not overrated. If anything, it's underrated.

Without knowing at least the basics of the local language, you've placed strict limits on every experience. You've decided "this is good enough. " Coming from the US, good enough seems great, but it gets so much better when you add the ability to communicate without constantly reaching for your phone.

Unfortunately, learning the language isn't easy. It takes time to be able to hear and understand what the natives are saying. It's difficult remembering which tense to use. Then there's pronunciation. However, once you reach a certain point it becomes easier. You begin to recognize enough words to figure out meanings of words you don't know. You'll find that there are hundreds of words you already know, except the spelling is different, or different.

It's the difference between listening to a song on a cheap music box or listening to the same song performed live.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2153471]I like the look of some of the rooms but my biggest question is, are these hotels girl friendly and allow you to bring girls back to the room?[/QUOTE]Not sure about the Grand but I think the other 2 might be Love Motels that also rent short time so I would think for sure with them. But I would check with them to be sure.

You should not have any problem with chicas at Blux, as long as the chica has a legitimate cedula. Blux is nice. The location is good. Has a pool, although it's cold.

You can also go with Poblado Rentals. They have some nice apartments. If you are looking for something a little more upscale, try Energy Living. There are new apartments not far from the Mansion. I think the building is Oasis? But I don't know much about it. Good luck!

[QUOTE=TimeKeeper281;2153449]I appreciate the response. I am going to do Poblado, even though in the future I suspect I will prefer Laureles. I am just having hell picking an airbnb in Poblado. I want something really nice. I guess Blux, but I am not even sure if I will run into issues there with girls, even though it says guests are OK.[/QUOTE]

Since my flight was so cheap, I went with Energy for a place that was $892 for 9 nights. Flight and lodging, was only $1500. And to think I was going to go to Sao Paulo and spend 1600 on just a flight.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2153788]You should not have any problem with chicas at Blux, as long as the chica has a legitimate cedula. Blux is nice. The location is good. Has a pool, although it's cold.

You can also go with Poblado Rentals. They have some nice apartments. If you are looking for something a little more upscale, try Energy Living. There are new apartments not far from the Mansion. I think the building is Oasis? But I don't know much about it. Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2153186]I like Laureles. However, I've never found a good hotel to stay in there. There has always been one problem or another the major one being noise. If I find a nice hotel in Laureles suitable for my needs (quiet, good wifi, fridge, good breakfast, safe, etc.) I would certainly stay there.[/QUOTE]You might try Hotel Verony San Joaquin. It's 1 block off of la 70 towards the south end. Tonight around 8 when I walked past there wasn't much noise at street level. Looks like breakfast is available and rooms start at 60 k. There are several little restaurants close by as well.

[URL]http://www.hotelveronysanjoaquin.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2153585]Unfortunately, learning the language isn't easy. It takes time to be able to hear and understand what the natives are saying. It's difficult remembering which tense to use. Then there's pronunciation. However, once you reach a certain point it becomes easier. You begin to recognize enough words to figure out meanings of words you don't know. You'll find that there are hundreds of words you already know, except the spelling is different, or different.[/QUOTE]While learning other languages is indeed difficult, Spanish is one of the easier ones to learn, because the pronunciation rules are clear and absolute, as are the rules on which syllable to stress. There are very few homonyms. Certainly it is easier to learn than English! I am reminded of the [I]I Love Lucy[/I] episode where Ricky becomes frustrated because rough, through, and bough don't rhyme. None of that nonsense in Spanish. Plus you have a final authority on what is correct Spanish: La Academia Real (The Royal Academy) de Madrid. As an added bonus, the Spanish spoken in Colombia is some of the clearest around, especially in the highlands. So Medellíand would be an ideal place to learn Spanish.

Hey,

I will be staying at hotel Torre Poblado in a few months. What casas and strip clubs are near there. Also, if you had to rank the top 3 to 5 strip clubs in Medellin and top 3 to 5 cases in Medellin how would you rank them. I don't care about money. Looking for quality at the clubs and cases and want street hookers which can be lower quality but better performance. Is Parque Lleras where you go for the street hookers.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2153943]While learning other languages is indeed difficult, Spanish is one of the easier ones to learn, because the pronunciation rules are clear and absolute, as are the rules on which syllable to stress. [/QUOTE]It depends on the mother tongue of the learner. I have seldom listened Americans and English speaking a decent Spanish, at least as far as the pronunciation is concerned. And not to mention the grammar rules and verb conjugation, which is an obscure land for English native speakers.

I know, also French never lose their way to speak, and Greek in particular never lose their accent (I know some who have been living in US for 20 years and still say "fres fis" because he seems to refuse saying "sh").

However, even before people will start jumping on me, I am able to enumerate on my own various ways to argue with what I wrote.

I think the easiest language I have tried to learn is Indonesian. Pronunciation is easy for all those who are used to speak as they write, with few clear rules of pronunciation. However, for any language including Indonesian, there is a huge step between learning the basic survival language and the being able to speak correctly more than a few thousands words. Any language is difficult, if one wants to speak correctly and fluently with appropriate words.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2154064]It depends on the mother tongue of the learner. I have seldom listened Americans and English speaking a decent Spanish, at least as far as the pronunciation is concerned. And not to mention the grammar rules and verb conjugation, which is an obscure land for English native speakers.

I know, also French never lose their way to speak, and Greek in particular never lose their accent (I know some who have been living in US for 20 years and still say "fres fis" because he seems to refuse saying "sh").

However, even before people will start jumping on me, I am able to enumerate on my own various ways to argue with what I wrote.

I think the easiest language I have tried to learn is Indonesian. Pronunciation is easy for all those who are used to speak as they write, with few clear rules of pronunciation. However, for any language including Indonesian, there is a huge step between learning the basic survival language and the being able to speak correctly more than a few thousands words. Any language is difficult, if one wants to speak correctly and fluently with appropriate words.[/QUOTE]Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.

Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.

The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2154075]Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2154075]Most people whose mother tongue is neither Spanish nor English would find it easier to learn Spanish, I would posit. That would be especially true when it comes to writing, since English spelling makes no sense and Spanish has absolute rules. For example, there is no situation in Spanish where two different words are spelled identically but pronounced differently. And native speakers of other Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.[/QUOTE]Which in your opinion is the hardest Romance language? I have limited exposure to most of them, but for me, Romanian is by far the most complex. Also, any suggestions for the best course for learning Spanish?

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2154075] Romance languages such as Italian or Portuguese would find it much easier to learn Spanish than English, just as I found it easy to learn Italian after becoming fluent in Spanish. Even Portuguese, which I can't speak, I can read. I would also say that learning a third or subsequent language is quite a bit easier than learning the second one.[/QUOTE]I agree. I started to learn Spanish in the mid 1990's after a buddy took me to Puerta Plata in the DR and I loved the Latinas, but the only thing I could say to them was "juevos rancheros" cause that's all I knew, LOL.

Didn't get very far with that phrase, LOL, so I got dedicated to learn Spanish, and I mean dedicated.

I really wanted to learn, and I did.

We all can if we put our mind to it. Most people half ass it and / or get frustrated and just give up.

Years later I started visiting, and semi living in Brazil, so I took up Portuguese with the same vigor, however, as you say, the subsequent Romance languages are much easier to learn than the first.

Also, like you said, with Spanish you can look at a word and easily know how to pronounce it, even if you don't know what it means.

It's intuitive.

Portuguese is not like that.

When I switch from Portuguese to Spanish, I feel my mind relax.

Though I actually find Portuguese a sexier language, and even the Latinas like when I whisper sweet and sexy Portuguese in their ear.

The idea that speaking the native language is overrated is very naive.

I suggest we take this to the Chit Chat section at this point.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2154210]I suggest we take this to the Chit Chat section at this point.[/QUOTE]Wow so much about learning Spanish, yes indeed it is important to successfully monger in El Centro. This last week I was walking around the Museum and the Church on the look out for girls I have never seen before besides the same ones that are there every day. I ran into a petite young thing on the backside of the Church, no beauty queen but not ugly and asked her how much to go to the room. I was quoted 15,000 Pesos and upon clarification she said the BJ would be uncovered. I had never seen this one out before so I decided to give it a go, what the heck for $ 6 US and $ 2 US for the room I'm not going to go broke. She was a great performer and upon learning her story she lives with her three brothers and her baby and told me that her brothers were lazy, hardly worked, and that her Mom didn't treat her well and favored her brothers. Hence she was out on the street trying to make ends meet. This one is a little gem, totally unspoiled and I gave her 30,000 Pesos after hearing her story and she could not believe it. She was so poor she told me she couldn't even afford a cell phone when I asked her for her number. She only works a few days a week and her Mom thinks she's working in a restaurant. So my experience was bittersweet, she was tight, so tight, and I will see her again, but what a sad story, however there are many others on the streets just trying to make ends meet whatever they have to do.

Just would like to co-sign what others have said about using Uber in Medellin. I got tired of the 444-0000 main taxi number always being busy and ordered my Chica an Uber. It worked flawlessly and it kept me from having to try to always have change for a 50k note for her taxi. You are also able to view the entire ride and see when she reaches her destination.

Few quick tips:

-When the Uber arrives be sure to walk your Chica to the Uber and let the driver know that the Uber is for her.

-Make sure you tell your Chica that the Uber is just to her house / main destinations ONLY. No problems with it yet. I think Uber will end the ride if the passenger exits the vehicle at any point.

-Make sure you put a travel alert on the card that you are using with Uber so that your bank won't block your card.

The one thing I haven't tried yet is sending an Uber for someone. This is a great option for chicas as she doesn't have to come out of pocket initially (most of them don't have any money until after visiting you, LOL), and it also allows you to see the fare estimate and have it charged to your card instead of reaching into your pockets.

Here is a link for anyone interested in learning how to send an Uber to pick someone up: [URL]https://ride.guru/content/newsroom/how-to-request-an-uber-for-your-friend[/URL]

NOTE: If you read the article it says something about sending the person a text message with a link to confirm their pickup, so your Chica most likely needs to have a cell phone with data and minutes.

Hopefully more of you will get onboard with using Uber there. It is a great resource and tool for our hobby and we should support them so that they continue to thrive here and improve their service offerings. After using Uber its kinda hard going back to the regular yellow taxis, lol.

+1 excellent advice, I think uber might also have started accepting cash in Medellin because I noticed one of my drivers had a wad of small denomination bills in his ashtray like the taxistas do. You named all the benefits. As for sending a car, my tip is to send it to a nearby landmark like restaurant or really anything that shows up near your chica's location on google maps. Uber has been having GPS challenges resolving street addresses the past 4 or 5 months. There are two sides to every story. You will encounter delays getting an uber at prime time rush hour (hora de pico). Those are the times it's more convenient to flag down a taxi.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2154508]Just would like to co-sign what others have said about using Uber in Medellin. I got tired of the 444-0000 main taxi number always being busy and ordered my Chica an Uber. It worked flawlessly and it kept me from having to try to always have change for a 50k note for her taxi. You are also able to view the entire ride and see when she reaches her destination.

Few quick tips:

-When the Uber arrives be sure to walk your Chica to the Uber and let the driver know that the Uber is for her.

-Make sure you tell your Chica that the Uber is just to her house / main destinations ONLY. No problems with it yet. I think Uber will end the ride if the passenger exits the vehicle at any point.

-Make sure you put a travel alert on the card that you are using with Uber so that your bank won't block your card..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2154508]... Hopefully more of you will get onboard with using Uber there. It is a great resource and tool for our hobby and we should support them so that they continue to thrive here and improve their service offerings. After using Uber its kinda hard going back to the regular yellow taxis, lol.[/QUOTE]I use Uber most of the time when sending chicas home. Most of them prefer Uber over taxis. I have it set up on a cash basis rather than a credit card. Since the app tells me the fare, I give the chica a little extra. 20 mil covers almost all trips, except from Poblado to Bello. That way, if she wants to go some other place, then any extra fare is her responsibility.

I have had a few snags with Uber. On the last trip, I met a guy on the airplane who was going to Poblado and his friend had ordered an Uber to pick him up at the airport. He invited me to share the ride. The driver ended up going right by my apartment, so he did not have to go out of his way. Also, he did not have to wait at the airport because when we came out of baggage claim he was not there. We went to the ATM and when we returned, the driver was there. He charged 80 mil. Too much! Sometimes the driver just doesn't show up. I track him on the app and when he (or she) is close to the apartment, I go outside. A few times, they just disappeared. I had one who input a charge because he said I wasn't there. When I was tracking him, he went towards the Mansion when he got close to Park Lleras. I stay near Park Lleras, not at the Mansion. Even then, I waited for him outside the apartment. A message to Uber reversed the charge, but in the meantime I could not summon another Uber unless I agreed to pay the charge.

One other point to add to SavePros321's points, when a driver accepts my request, I always send a message to tell them my exact location. Sometimes their app doesn't work well with GPS.

Hello gents,

I just wanted to shout out this board for always providing detailed (and entertaining) insight on the local culture in Medellin. I've had 3 trips to the city of Eternal Spring (my trips are all detailed thoroughly in this forum) - and am itching for a 4th trip (Medellin always calls LOL). I was wondering if anybody has any insight as to whether mid-to-late April is a good time to visit. It seems as if flights are cheap and accommodations are readily available and I'm wondering if that's because it's not a great time to visit? I've only been in September, December & January (and all were excellent visits in terms of hobbying). Any wisdom is appreciated.

As for some hotly debated topics on the forum:

-I've never felt in danger walking in El Centro at reasonable hours. And with my senses heightened and aware to my surroundings. I also speak very limited Spanish. But am an experienced traveler and exercise situational awareness when a foreigner. I've felt more danger in many US cities in the wrong areas than I have walking around Medellin. But that doesn't mean I'm not always on guard, scanning my surroundings for any red flags, and am cautious when in an unfamiliar city halfway across the globe from my home.

-my experiences with cabs have been nothing but excellent in Medellin. And never felt the need to be dropped of blocks away from my destination. But then again, I'm not engaged in any illegal activity. So I don't feel a need to be paranoid.

-while being fluent in spanish undoubtedly makes the experience better. You can still have an amazing experience with limited spanish proficiency.

-have never tried uber in Medellin. Thanks for the heads-up! I'll give it a try.

Amigos any have experience with this prepagos.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2154679]Hello gents,

I just wanted to shout out this board for always providing detailed (and entertaining) insight on the local culture in Medellin. I've had 3 trips to the city of Eternal Spring (my trips are all detailed thoroughly in this forum) - and am itching for a 4th trip (Medellin always calls LOL). I was wondering if anybody has any insight as to whether mid-to-late April is a good time to visit.[/QUOTE]I just looked at my past trips and I was there 4 years in a row (2012-2015) at that time. Everything was the same as any other time of the year I have visited. There were plenty of beautiful young ladies available. I'll be going in the first half of April this year.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2154702]Amigos any have experience with this prepagos.[/QUOTE]The only one I know is the second one from the left.

Her name is Pao. And she worked at the mansion years ago. Hot body but she has some miles on her.

Never did her but I have been out with her on the town in a group many times. She has a pleasant personally. And she literally knows every conceivable night spot you could possible want to go to. So if you like to party on the town she would be an asset. Also she can introduce you to tons of other women. If threesomes are your thing she is bi and can bring friends.

Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?

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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2154586]As for sending a car, my tip is to send it to a nearby landmark like restaurant or really anything that shows up near your chica's location on google maps. Uber has been having GPS challenges resolving street addresses the past 4 or 5 months. There are two sides to every story. You will encounter delays getting an uber at prime time rush hour (hora de pico). Those are the times it's more convenient to flag down a taxi.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the co-sign! And I never thought about that! Excellent advice because most likely the Uber driver is not just going to drive through the barrio to pick up a Chica right in front of her house like they would in the US, hahaha.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2154895]Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?[/QUOTE]I can confirm there are lots of Venezuelans in Colombia (apparently more in Bogota, Bucaramanga, Cucuta for obvious reasons). What I can't confirm is that they are "fair-skinned" Venezuelans. I don't know if you're aware, but Colombia and Venezuela are very similar countries, including racial/ethnic mix (and it's a good one!).

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2154895]Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?[/QUOTE]That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.

So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2155203]That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.

So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.[/QUOTE]Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama. These are what was also called the Bolivians, after the independence from Spain lead by Simon Bolivar who is their great leader as to George Washington to the US. So it is kinda funny when you answered. Both Colombians and Venezuela are and call each other sister countries and so goes back to questions from guys about VZ girls who are as mentioned cut from the same cloth that they want to see what the difference is. I've been with both and only difference is that border.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2150497]She does look hotter naked then dressed (which is rare I think) but if you don't like tattoos she does have her whole back done. But from the front just a small one just above her bikini line.[/QUOTE]This girl looks very familiar. Used to work at Ejecutivo. Anyone else remember her from there?

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2155218]Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama. [/QUOTE]

Bolivia was never part of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. First, like all the others (except parts of coastal Venezuela), it was part of the Viceroyalty of Perú. Then it became part of the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, not the Viceroyalty of New Granada. I believe there were about 40 years between the establishment of the Viceroyalty of Grenada and the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, with the former being first. I can tell you off the top of my head that the latter was created in the same year as the Declaration of Independence for the United States, 1776. New Granada was early to mid XVIII century. Bolivia still had a coastline back in those days.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2155218]Great answer, most gringos don't know the history of Colombia as it was originally under the same as New Granada which is made up of Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Panama. These are what was also called the Bolivians, after the independence from Spain lead by Simon Bolivar who is their great leader as to George Washington to the US. So it is kinda funny when you answered. Both Colombians and Venezuela are and call each other sister countries and so goes back to questions from guys about VZ girls who are as mentioned cut from the same cloth that they want to see what the difference is. I've been with both and only difference is that border.[/QUOTE]And out of those five countries, Colombia and Venezuela are (by far) the most similar as far as racial / ethnic mixes and appearance of the women. If one doesn't like the stereotypical Colombian look, he isn't going to like the Venezuelan look and vice versa. This isn't to say there's no variation in looks / complexion within each country. There absolutely is. One can find fair-complexioned Colombianas y Venezuelanas and one can find very dark girls in both countries. But on average, they are very, very similar.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2155387]Bolivia was never part of the Viceroyalty of New Granada. First, like all the others (except parts of coastal Venezuela), it was part of the Viceroyalty of Per. Then it became part of the Viceroyalty of the Ro de la Plata, not the Viceroyalty of New Granada. I believe there were about 40 years between the establishment of the Viceroyalty of Grenada and the Viceroyalty of the Ro de la Plata, with the former being first. I can tell you off the top of my head that the latter was created in the same year as the Declaration of Independence for the United States, 1776. New Granada was early to mid XVIII century. Bolivia still had a coastline back in those days.[/QUOTE]It was Peru that was part of the Vice Royalty. I had included Bolivia due to Simon Bolivar's quest to liberate the spanish colonies from Spain.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;2155441]It was Peru that was part of the Vice Royalty. I had included Bolivia due to Simon Bolivar's quest to liberate the spanish colonies from Spain.

[/QUOTE]Well, no, not really. The vast majority of what is now Perú remained in the Viceroyalty of Lima. Some of what is now Perú, but was then Ecuador, went to New Granada but that is a very small portion of what is now Perú. The initial separation of the Viceroyalty of New Granada from the Viceroyalty of Lima in the early XVIII century was primarily present day Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. Later, Panamá, which eventually became part of Colombia, was brought into the Viceroyalty of New Granada. If I recall correctly, it also contained parts of what are now Brazil and Suriname. This was all part of the reforms instituted by the Bourbon Dynasty when the Viceroyalty of Lima became too unwieldy because of growth in the colonies. Eventually there were four viceroyalties before it all went to shit: Lima, New Granada, Río de la Plata, and New Spain (México and Central América); Panamá had been part of New Spain but was eventually incorporated into New Granada, becoming part of Colombia. The respective capitals were Lima, Bogotá, Buenos Aires, and México City. Obviously the Viceroyalty of Lima, and the city of Lima, saw its influence diminish when the two new viceroyalties of New Granada and Río de la Plata were created.

'Argento' means silver in Italian and 'plata,' of course, means silver in Spanish. So the Río de la Plata, which runs in the estuary at Buenos Aires, got its name not because Argentina was a main producer of silver, but because the river was used to SHIP silver from Perú and Bolivia. Some pompous cocksucker from Yale was trying to tell me a few months back that Argentina was so named because of all the silver mines there. No. There were and are a few silver mines in northwestern Argentina but most of the silver at this time was coming from Potosí in Bolivia. That is where Spain had its mint. Fucken Ivy League twerp. Prior to becoming a separate viceroyalty, the area that roughly became New Granada was a subdivision of the Viceroyalty of Lima and was known as Tierra Firme.

One man's canela is another's caramela, another's morena, and still another's blanquita. I tend to zero in on the color they all share. Pink.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2155203]That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.

So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.[/QUOTE]

As far as racial / ethnics of Colombians and Venezuelans goes, its the basic people of Spanish, indigineous (Indian), Afro-black mix. Some people in some areas look pure Spanish; other people look to be pure indigineous and others pure black. But there has been so much inter-racial mixing some people look to be of obvious mix of some part of those groups.

Thank you guys. My preconceptions come from the fact that Venezuela has historically been a more affluent country than Colombia and recent history has shown that the more affluent populations have also been the more fair skin people. Also the Venezuelens I know who immigrated to the United States are very fair compared to my Colombian friends.

I also found a bit of variety in complexion between Meddelin, Cali, and Cartagena. I have a work trip to Bagota in May and will see how much has changed in 10 years!

[QUOTE=Combo;2155089]I can confirm there are lots of Venezuelans in Colombia (apparently more in Bogota, Bucaramanga, Cucuta for obvious reasons). What I can't confirm is that they are "fair-skinned" Venezuelans. I don't know if you're aware, but Colombia and Venezuela are very similar countries, including racial/ethnic mix (and it's a good one!).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;2155203]That is funny since it all used to be the same country. I don't think that someone drawing a line and calling part of it a different name would put the people so far off.

So you have been to Colombia and you think the girls are not light enough? My buddy has been to Medellin and he says the girls aren't dark enough. My girlfriend is Colombian and she is white as snow. I think some of y'all have been going to the wrong Colombia.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Combo;2155440]And out of those five countries, Colombia and Venezuela are (by far) the most similar as far as racial / ethnic mixes and appearance of the women. If one doesn't like the stereotypical Colombian look, he isn't going to like the Venezuelan look and vice versa. This isn't to say there's no variation in looks / complexion within each country. There absolutely is. One can find fair-complexioned Colombianas y Venezuelanas and one can find very dark girls in both countries. But on average, they are very, very similar.[/QUOTE]

The CIA Factbook on countries describes the racial / ethnic mix of Colombia as such (there words): Mestizo and White 84%, Afro-Colombian 10%, Amerindian 3. 4%.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2155379]This girl looks very familiar. Used to work at Ejecutivo. Anyone else remember her from there?[/QUOTE]She has worked at Fase II at least since I met her there early Sept last year and didn't see her at Barra Ejectiva in March '17 or June '17. I'll ask her next time we WhatsApp.

She lives in Rio Negro.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2154895]Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?[/QUOTE]Just how light skin are you looking for, my girlie from Fase II is fairly fair I think and so is my SA sweetie Sofie, and even my street girlie Sarah.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2154895]Haven't been to Colombia is years as I prefer lighter skin girls. I hear that recently there has been a wave of fair skin Venezuelan WGs in the past year. Is this rumor true?[/QUOTE]The 2 Venezuelan girls I have met in Medellin, neither were super fair skinned, but not very dark either: (Tiffany from Yakusa and Rachel who is 5'11" from Maracaibo).

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2155479]The CIA Factbook on countries describes the racial / ethnic mix of Colombia as such (there words): Mestizo and White 84%, Afro-Colombian 10%, Amerindian 3. 4%.[/QUOTE]

Well, there is a heck of a lot of difference anywhere in LatAm between being 'mestizo' and being 'white,' or 'criollo. ' So by combining those two categories, the CIA Factbook shows that they don't know shit from apple butter. Furthermore, they are way underestimating the indigenous percentage, because they don't know where or how to find all those people. The CIA has been working hand in glove with fascist LatAm governments to exterminate those people for a very long time, so they tend not to stand up and be counted. The 'CIA Factbook' is disgraceful, mendacious propaganda.

To summarize, the CIA 'Fact' Book is a crock of shit.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2155469]As far as racial / ethnics of Colombians and Venezuelans goes, its the basic people of Spanish, indigineous (Indian), Afro-black mix. Some people in some areas look pure Spanish; other people look to be pure indigineous and others pure black. But there has been so much inter-racial mixing some people look to be of obvious mix of some part of those groups.[/QUOTE]It goes beyond that. The indigenous peoples in Colombia and Venezuela were different from those in say Bolivia, Peru, Mexico, etc. My guess is that they were a more attractive people.

And the Africans brought to various regions of the Americas were also from different parts of the Mother Continent. The mix in Venezuela and Colombia is a particularly good mix. I'd put Brasil to that group also. Although the mix is a bit different - even more diverse.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2155514]Well, there is a heck of a lot of difference anywhere in LatAm between being 'mestizo' and being 'white,' or 'criollo. ' So by combining those two categories, the CIA Factbook shows that they don't know shit from apple butter. Furthermore, they are way underestimating the indigenous percentage, because they don't know where or how to find all those people. The CIA has been working hand in glove with fascist LatAm governments to exterminate those people for a very long time, so they tend not to stand up and be counted. The 'CIA Factbook' is disgraceful, mendacious propaganda.

To summarize, the CIA 'Fact' Book is a crock of shit.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you on the "CIA FACT BOOK". A few years ago I was going to West Africa a couple times a year and the 'CIA FACT BOOK" was chocked full of straight up bullshit concerning West Africa. My theory is that the CIA doesn't want people traveling and discovering fantastic alternatives to the plantation (I. E. "1st world" countries).

The CIA is an international terrorist organization run by a bunch of high end thugs, with no oversight or accountability. But we should take any further discussion to Chit Chat so as not to interfere with pussy.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2155454]Well, no, not really. The vast majority of what is now Per remained in the Viceroyalty of Lima. Some of what is now Per, but was then Ecuador, went to New Granada but that is a very small portion of what is now Per. The initial separation of the Viceroyalty of New Granada from the Viceroyalty of Lima in the early XVIII century was primarily present day Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. Later, Panam, which eventually became part of Colombia, was brought into the Viceroyalty of New Granada. If I recall correctly, it also contained parts of what are now Brazil and Suriname. This was all part of the reforms instituted by the Bourbon Dynasty when the Viceroyalty of Lima became too unwieldy because of growth in the colonies. Eventually there were four viceroyalties before it all went to shit: Lima, New Granada, Ro de la Plata, and New Spain (Mxico and Central Amrica); Panam had been part of New Spain but was eventually incorporated into New Granada, becoming part of Colombia. The respective capitals were Lima, Bogot, Buenos Aires, and Mxico City. Obviously the Viceroyalty of Lima, and the city of Lima, saw its influence diminish when the two new viceroyalties of New Granada and Ro de la Plata were created.

'Argento' means silver in Italian and 'plata,' of course, means silver in Spanish. So the Ro de la Plata, which runs in the estuary at Buenos Aires, got its name not because Argentina was a main producer of silver, but because the river was used to SHIP silver from Per and Bolivia. Some pompous cocksucker from Yale was trying to tell me a few months back that Argentina was so named because of all the silver mines there. No. There were and are a few silver mines in northwestern Argentina but most of the silver at this time was coming from Potos in Bolivia. That is where Spain had its mint. Fucken Ivy League twerp. Prior to becoming a separate viceroyalty, the area that roughly became New Granada was a subdivision of the Viceroyalty of Lima and was known as Tierra Firme.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to go back to Santa Marta where the final resting place of Simon Bolivar is and demand a refund on that damn tour I took back in 2014. Tour guide should have been more clearer on his facts. Looks like Dickhead is the residential Colombian historian. No arguments from me. LOL

First of all thank you to all of you who have endeavored to enlighten us. Having lived in various places around the world, I know you are right and certain preconceptions about skin tone are usually not valid at all.

And all the evidence I have seen, never having been to either country, is that if anything Colombian girls are on average somewhat more attractive. However more than a handful of people who have traveled extensively in Latin America, swear to me that Venezuelan girls are on average quite a big more attractive than Colombian girls.

When I asked one of them to justify this opinion, he pointed out that Venezuela had far more people of Italian ancestry than Colombia and that was his explanatory variable, I am talking about beauty and not skin tone, this is what I want to explicitly clarify, we admirers of beauty know it occurs throughout the visible spectrum. The relatively high Italian ancestry does occur in Argentina too, and that might be what some people consider very attractive, when I ask observers to articulate what they find particularly attractive about Argentine girls, they are usually at a loss for words.

So two questions.

Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?

Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2155776]

So two questions.

Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?

Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?[/QUOTE]I've recently been to Cucuta and sat at the border between VZ an CO just to people watch as VZ walk back and forth to buy goods. I can tell you I could rarely tell the difference unless pointed out to by the locals in Cucuta in looks. As far as service this comes to playing dice unless you have a connection with the girl so throw that out the door. I even have a GF from VZ and I can't tell if other than a slight accent in her spanish. Most guys on this thread talk about the service and will agree that MDE including other colombians outside of MDE is to p4 p. And rant about the experience both good and bad. I, from my experience with girls outside of MDE and datiing a VZ I can tell you that I prefer girls from outside of MDE due to experience. As far as ancestry, I think that goes to one's perspective on what is beauty. Take a look at Brazilian actress Morena Baccarin, she has italian blood mixed in her and I think her beauty is fantastic. I think genetics / health and how one takes care of their body has more to do with it than just bloodline alone.

I find venezolans more attractive than colombianas and in fact think venezolanas are the most beautiful in LatAm. I do not know if the Italian factors in. I do not find Italian women to be particularly attractive since I am not too into mustaches. I think, in my case, it is because I am allergic to silicone. Colombianas are kind of b!tchy in my opinion, so that might factor in. There are a lot of venezolanas hooking here in Spain, and not that many colombianas. So that works out for me.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2155776]First of all thank you to all of you who have endeavored to enlighten us. Having lived in various places around the world, I know you are right and certain preconceptions about skin tone are usually not valid at all.

And all the evidence I have seen, never having been to either country, is that if anything Colombian girls are on average somewhat more attractive. However more than a handful of people who have traveled extensively in Latin America, swear to me that Venezuelan girls are on average quite a big more attractive than Colombian girls.

When I asked one of them to justify this opinion, he pointed out that Venezuela had far more people of Italian ancestry than Colombia and that was his explanatory variable, I am talking about beauty and not skin tone, this is what I want to explicitly clarify, we admirers of beauty know it occurs throughout the visible spectrum. The relatively high Italian ancestry does occur in Argentina too, and that might be what some people consider very attractive, when I ask observers to articulate what they find particularly attractive about Argentine girls, they are usually at a loss for words.

So two questions.

Does anyone agree that Venezuelan girls generally outshine Colombian girls?

Do you think Italian ancestry has anything to do with it?[/QUOTE]The truth is, both countries have stunning, beautiful women.

They also both have ugly women.

As to which girls outshine the other, is all a matter of individual taste.

Who really cares what other guys think of the beauty of certain girls.

Most guys, even the so called experts, probably couldn't differentiate them in a mixed lineup.

Your own opinion is all that counts.

I have lived in both countries.

Caracas was my spot before Chavez became the Prez, and even for a little afterwards.

Then Colombia.

The truth is, both countries have both good, bad, beautiful, and ugly women, and all in between.

Just enjoy!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155913]Most guys, even the so called experts, probably couldn't differentiate them in a mixed lineup.[/QUOTE]I could. Venezuelans have big foreheads.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155913]The truth is, both countries have both good, bad, beautiful, and ugly women, and all in between.[/QUOTE]That is the bottom line and true of every country.

A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.

This trip I stayed in Poblado at a hotel near Centro Comercial Santa Fe.

Day 1: I message a girl I met at the Mansion 2-3 years back. We message every now and again through Facebook or Whatsapp-and she is usually my '1st' on each trip to Medellin. Spinner hottie who is an 8 out of 10 with a great vibe. Except for the baby scarring on the belly--so, with the belly covered: everything else is great. I ask her to bring me about 100 k worth of 420. I then go over to the mall and by a nice glass water filtration system at the store that sells items including grow kits since medicine is pretty much legal there. Chica shows up only about 10-15 minutes 'late' because of some traffic--no complaints.

My hotel checks ID and registers all girls at the reception. Then they call to ask if I want her to come up. There is no charge--until 10 pm. After 10 pm, even if it is for 3 minutes, for all guests -not including food delivery-there is a 35 dollar or so charge--so, that's fair.

She looks good. A little skinnier than last time, but good enough. She also hands me 6 baggies of weed probably equating to over an ounce, maybe 1. 5 ounces of pretty good stuff. Not quite the best from California--but pretty close--I was surprised and more than happy! 30 ish bucks and I am well over stocked now and I have gifts for other girls! I gave her 100 k for that and told her she could keep one of the baggies as a thanks. We sit on the balcony & crack open a bottle of wine, puff, and chat for a bit. No rush, old friends catching up. I speak Spanish almost fluently, not quite--but close! And it does help A LOT in Medellin! I always bring my laptop with a bluetooth speaker for music. So, we have weed, wine and tunes on a nice day with a hot chick. Its now about 3 PM and we're on the balcony. She gets up to go to the bathroom, then gets some water--comes back and straddles me, sitting on my lap-we start making out-and I starting waking up.

To the shower we go--just don't get her hair wet! --they never look as good with a shower cap on!

Anyway, she sits on this little sitting spot in the shower and starts with a nice BBBJ-with hot water spraying and 2 shower heads both going at the same time--1 is the disabled persons shower, on her back, with the main one on mine. A few minutes go by- and its off to the bed. Good sex-but, its my 1st nut on this trip and I have saved up a load I want her to see--so, I ask her to take the condom off and start blowing me again--she complies-and I shoot my load in her mouth and on her face-good times! Back to the shower, clean up, some more wine, a little chocolate and back to the balcony to chill. Its now been about 2. 5 maybe even 3 hours since she arrived. Its kinda dark, and she asks me if I want her to stay for another round--but, I am emptied out--so I say, no, you should go be with your kid and family. I put 200 k on the counter, and another 40 k for her taxis and a small propina-a 15 dollar or so bottle of wine I bought earlier in the day at the supermarket. She is happy. I am happy. I call downstairs, have the hotel call her a taxi, and when they call the room to tell me the taxi is here-I walk her to the elevator and send her on her way. No viagara needed. Good time. Like reuniting with an old girlfriend for one last one-off.

Then, I head off to Taco House for a burrito followed by a stroll around Poblado. Back to the room around 830 maybe 9. Chill on the balcony and call it an early evening while streaming some stuff online--great internet!

Day 2: wake up, motivate, and walk about 15-20 minutes to the Aquacatala metro stop. I navigate my way over to the Escalares part of town--where the escalators go up the mountains and there are murals and art everywhere--interesting scene. Some great views of the city at the top. Then back over and across to another cable car I didn't even know existed. After a some time of random exploration, I take the Metro to Prado (and walk around Botero plaza a bit. I check out the street mid-afternoon street action moving fast and with purpose I felt safe and find my way into one of the strip bars--dead. 2 fat chicks and not much happening. Its a place just right on the outskirts of the plaza. I walk up the same block and right next to the lame strip bar is another one, I think, Barra Ejecutiva? But am not 100% sure. I remember walking down (or was it up?) some stairs, and into a typical looking strip bar--the moment I get to the main room, right in front of me as if placed by god herself is a true and totally perfect 10! Holy shit! Yes! This chick is Hot Hot Hot. We make eye contact, I walk over and say Hi. 30 seconds later we walk through the bar-like literally through the actual bar, and into a small back changing room, then up some stairs, past a couple of mediocre looking girls and into a room that is MUCH nicer than I thought it would be--shower, window overlooking the plaza and a clean looking space--fairly impressed I was! Chica asks me for her 60 k- I let her know: 'con su boca, sin condom por favor!' She smiles and asks for 10 k mas. No problemo! She leads me to the shower and washes me down, plays with my nuts, and cleans me up. She even soaps up her hand gets behind me and starts stroking my rock hard dick from behind--as she sticks her finger in my ass--I say bueno-me gusta-and tell her she can play with me any way she wants. She then turns me around and kisses me like this is our wedding night-I somewhat reflexively pull back-thinking: she might have some other dudes cum in her mouth LOL. Shower off, towel on, and to the bed:

She then says she was away for a while and is back doing this for the 1st time in a long time. Claims she is in school and she has another job and used to do this, but just started back up--and I am her 1st in a long time.

Now, we all know these chicks lie lie lie lie. Like trump-lie lie lie lie. So, I say,. Yeah, sure. No need for stories. I'm yours do what you want with me! She says, no its true, and then grabs her phone to show me pics of her at her other actual job--wearing a bright green / yellow vest and patrolling the streets during some street fair or something-she claims it was from the day before-who knows??

Anyway, she pushes me down onto the bed where she does a really really hot lap dance. Intense. Like she was really into it. I was! My dick almost ends up inside her pussy without a rubber a couple of times while she grinds me and puts her tits in my mouth. The sight of her grinding on me almost naked and totally naked--damm! So hot! On her knees, blow job--I am already ready to pop-so I tell her to slow down--she looks up--and says, 'dame su leche dos veces' I say--well, I wih but I will need some time--she says--its early, its quiet, she likes me, don't worry 30 k mas, and we have time. Then she blows me and takes it all in her mouth within 2-3 minutes. I just couldn't hold out and I shoot my load into her mouth. She takes it like a pro! WOW!

She jumps up, spits it out in the bathroom sink, pulls a toothbrush from her little purse, brushes, and comes and cleans me up with a small towel while brushing her teeth HA! Too funny, and somehow she made toothbrushing sexy. LOL. I get up and wash my hands, rinse with mouthwash, wipe off with a baby wipe and get back to bed- we then cuddle and kiss a bit-no tongue, lots of body rubbing--GFE type stuff. I give her a massage while kissing her & my arms wrap around to her back and work her over for a bit-and she melts--I got skills! She flips over onto her back, I massage her legs, arms and neck--then chest, I put a condom on my fingers while standing next to this beautiful epic perfect 10 who is looking at me, and totally relaxed. And start fingering her and stroking her clit with my thumb with my other hand under her neck supporting her--just admiring this beautiful site. She is turned on! There is no way she is faking-after a few minutes, she pulls me in close and starts sucking my semi soft dick while she comes and deep throats me. I can feel her pussy contractions with my fingers deep inside her--she was wet, creamy, hot and maybe 19 or 20. Thank you universe! My dick in her mouth while she comes gets me more than hard so I put a condom on, climb on top missionary start fucking her slow and deep. Kissing, pumping, sucking on perfect tits. Glorious! Boom. We come together. Hard, and faster than I thought I could. In her pussy with a condom on. With rare ease for a 2nd round! Usually round 2 must be sans rubber. So, kudos to hottie stripper chick.

I pull out, she grabs some paper towels and takes the rubber off me. Quick shower, kiss, and then she asks if I am happy- umm-obviously!

I hand her 130 k (60 original agreed upon amount, 10 for BBBJ, and 30 for 2nd pop +30 more for propina / time-she deserved it!) She's happy, we trade whatsapp and she says she hopes I want to see her soon--I tell her: whatever she wants I am down! This girl looks a lot like the porn star Melanie Rios-just with near perfect teeth. By now, its getting darker, almost dusk. And I walk fast over to the metro to Poblado station on the train I am in 'I can't believe that just happened' mode. She was so hot and that was so easy and cheap and good. Happy. I walk over to an Indian restaurant I really like, Zaika and have a great meal!

Walk back to the hotel--about 10 drizzly minutes away. Shower, chill, internent, call it a night.

Day 3: I wake up at like 4 AM and see 4 whatsapp message alerts on my phone. Messages are from the strip club chick wondering where I am and if I want to see her. That was quick. She's sent me messages at 230 and just after 300--I'm am guessing she wanted to come to my hotel instead of going 'home' or wherever a stripper goes at 4 am or so. Slow night I guess since she was looking for more work.

Back to sleep without answering, wake up at 8 ish, breakfast, and over to Olviedo Mall for a little people watching. Chat up a cute spinner girl, late 20's, selling the most amazing donuts of all time at a small kiosk-we trade whatsapp, and I hope she'll respond when I reach out to her. (she didn't! LOL).

Early afternoon, maybe 1 or so, back to the hotel. I send a message through Facebook to a friend of my Mansion girl from the 1st day. (when 1st girl was at the hotel room, I showed her a picture of this girl who was in her facebook friends list that looked hot--she gave a solid recommendation-and warned me to avoid a few others.) within 30 minutes of sending the message I get a reply. The message I sent in Spanish was basically: I saw your picture on FB and saw we had a mutual friend, I asked her about you-and, well, how soon could we meet? You're beautiful and I'm sure we'll have fun. ' she replied with a Hello, where are you. I responded the Google maps link form the hotel website of where I was. She says she come to my hotel at 4 PM. I remind her to bring her cedula. She messages me at 3 pm-she's going to be late. So, I go over to Santa Fe mall to people watch and kill some time. 445 pm-girl texts me that she will be at my hotel in 10 minutes. I bust it fast back to the hotel, to meet her outside--just in case the pics weren't accurate enough and I wasn't a fan, better to just send her away with some taxi money and a 20 k apology than to let someone I am not into up to the room.

She arrives, Andre Ramirez is her name on Facebook.

Beautiful girl. Perfect face. Pictures do no justice. Great body--except for the baby damage on the belly. But her face makes up for it!

I saw another review that kinda trashed her- why? She was good to me! Though, she is def. An experienced hooker for a young one! I think she is 22 ish This girl did some good work for me, was fair, compliant, well worth it--and def. Deserves props! To each their own I guess YMMV?

After hangin' out for a bit, catching a buzz, splitting a bottle of wine etc. Off to the races we go. (only drawback: she was a tobacco cigarette smoker--but I had toothpaste and mouthwash ready for her).

Great service! After a decent BBBJ we fucked-not bad-though not the best lay of my trip-I told her I wanted to cum in her mouth- no problem- she sucks it really well. I cum in her mouth-a big load-she really had me going-and she kept going- post cum, no stop! BONUS! She was sitting on my bed, bent at the waist, legs spread while she played with herself, with me standing in front of her while she was sitting up, head on the 'headboard' still sucking-and sucking- until I came again! Yup! Holy grail kinda stuff: blow me until I cum in your mouth, swallow it all, and keep my dick in your mouth, and hard- until I cum again. Nice. Thanks generic Viagra! No complaints at all! Showers, small talk, pay, good-bye.

She was at my place for about 3 hours I gave her 300 plus 20 k taxi. Pricey? A bit-but still: 115 bucks. Double cum, massive intense release, convenient, and referred by a trusted paisa so less risk. And a nice time. Works for me.

Shower, chill, walk to lleras, dinner near lleras, chat with a few street hookers in lleras: but nothing worth considering. Back to room: sleep.

Day 4: Walked to the zoo in the morning-took about an hour plus with some breakfast time along the way at some random place. Zoo was fun. Worth checking out.

Taxi back to poblado: walking toward lleras I see a sign on a wall on a corner 2 blocks from lleras. Its a massage place-I vaguely remember from a few years before. So, I check it out: 3 girls. They wanted 10 k just to see the 3 girls-I laughed and started to leave-chick stops me and shows me them anyway: 1 in each of 3 different rooms: 1 fat light skinned girl, one fat black chick, and 1 7. 5/10 hottie with a tight petite body small A cup titties and good enough teeth. I'll take that one! Mamasan (for lack of a better word) asked for 150 k, I said, never mind-girl says, okay 120 k for the hour- all included. I go to a room, girl comes in tells me to get naked, hands me a robe and slippers and leads me to a shower-quick wash-back to the room, on the table 1/2 decent massage with some ball teasing and some strokes on between my cheeks, teasing my asshole a bit. Flip: immediately starts playing with my balls. While I play with her fantastic ass. MMMMM that ass was sexy as can be! She reaches for condom & I rub my hand up her leg, and give a slight slap on her ass, she looks at me-and I make it obvious: No condom. She says propina-I say no worries, I will take care of her. She starts sucking without the condom. GREAT ball action. Really sucking my nuts. Then she motions for us to fuck, I wave her off and tell her I am enjoying the blowjob too much. I push her head down my cock and hold her head strongly as she deep throats. After a few minutes I cum in her mouth-she spits it right out: right into a towel that was on the floor. I say don't stop: she gets back to it for a little bit, then just starts playing with my balls and semi hard dick. Its done. I had some baby wipe type things I always have with me to help clean up quick and give her 20 k propina. Go grab a meal near Lleras, and back to hotel. Shower rest. Very very very good ball sucking action left a nice memory. No Viagra needed.

Day 5: taxi to New Life and arrive as they open. 10 am or 11 am can't remember. Line-up: not impressed. Mamasan says come back in 30 minutes, 3 more girls coming in. I go take a walk around the neighborhood and return exactly 30 minutes later. 3 girls come out, 1 at a time-- last girl: we lock eyes. Honestly just about the most beautiful girl in the world. Sexiest, hottest, most perfect looking girl I have ever seen in a casa. This girl doesn't belong there! She belongs in my bed. 22, tight, clean, some tats, otherwise: Bingo! Think Colombian Jenna Haze. Her name was 'Jennifer' but they all change their names every shift LOL. Most of the names arent real. Somehow, even hotter than the strip club chick. 5'2? Maybe 10-105 pounds? All natural be / see cups and great happy energy. Youthful. Fresh. 1 hour plus a few minutes: all good. I came 1 time in her mouth. Don't remember the cost but it was well worth it! Good sex. Nice long sexy shower hand job with light kissing. Great attention to my nuts: sucked on them a while as I played with her very clean smelling and looking pussy. Followed by some sex and then the finish in her mouth. She was fun. We trade contact info on whatsapp and I bail and find a taxi on the corner to take me to Poblado.

While eating at a restaurant I message strip club girl 'I've been thinking of you. I want you, where are you?' She tells me she can come to my hotel at 11 pm: I'm like, no, its only 2 in the afternoon-I don't want to wait. Now or never. She tells me 5 pm. She ends up at my hotel at 630 pm almost 7. She messages me en route, 10 minutes away. So I pop a generic vitamin V, go down and meet her outside to pay her taxi. Register with her cedula. We go up together--hotel guy seems impressed! I have to back her off from kissing me in the elevator--there are cameras and I want to be discrete and respectful to the hotel.

GREAT time in the room. We agree she will stay until 10 pm (helps me avoid the hotel guest fee and probably gets her to some other guy or a strip club at the right time) and I will give her, food, weed, wine, 250 plus 25 for her taxi away. Works for me. Gentleman: this was a good time. After some hanging out, and a quick, don't get the hair wet not much happening shower, she sits me on the couch naked, and gets dressed in her sexy bikini lingerie that was under her clothes. And gives me like 20-30 minutes of the most intense, sexy, close lap dance teasing I could imagine. What an ass! OMG! She would just slide my shaft between her cheeks, teasing and teasing. And was just awesome. What a body! She titty fucked me, BBBJ, sucking while upside down so I could play with her pussy, lots of passionate kissing and neck kisses, more grinding until finally she takes me to the bed. We fucked in every position known to man, and a few new ones LOL. I had cum a bunch on this trip and already earlier in the day, so I was taking a long time--lots of fucking.

I did take some generic Viagra which I don't need to take but its fun--so I was extra hard for this! I wore her out. And kept going. She came several times: went from open mouth kisses with a little tongue to sucking my tongue out of my mouth while she was coming intensely. I got some stomach muscle cramps from so much moving. LOL (true) Finally, she pulls me out, wipes me with a baby wipe and a damp cloth and proceeds with the 'dame su leche' and sucks me off until I cum in her mouth-I cum huge. Intense. She spits it into a towel and since I am still Viagra hard, gets back to sucking. And sucking. And sucking. Then she comes up to kiss me and starts just playing with my dick in her hands--until when she can tell I am getting close--back to sucking. Until I cum again! Woo-hoo--awesome. We hang for a bit, after a while she starts teasing me: but my dick is done, its comatose. She leaves around 930. I thank her, and give her the $ all good. I'm spent. Another one I would marry for a few weeks if she wasn't a working girl. She says her pussy is sore. I tell her to have a nice night. LOL.

Day 6: no action: just went to museo de agua, and to a vegan place for lunch that was good. Walked around. Another taco house dinner. Not much happening chill day. Text each of the girls I had already been with the exact same message. 'thinking of you and happy for our time together. I hope you want to see me soon. ' They all message back with some form of any time, amor. I also checked tinder and messaged with some chicks, but decided not t pull the trigger with any of them. There are def. Escorts with hot pics on tinder. Who knows what actually shows up at the door. A couple of them sent me their whatsapp then they sent me pics of themselves and or other chicks through whatsapp. Seems pretty easy to set up action through tinder. But, day 6 was a day of rest for me.

Day 7: I message Andre Ramirez in the morning. 2 hours later, she replies and says she can come by at 4. 200 K for about 2 hours. I didn't feel like fucking her-so, after we hung out a bit, I laid on the bed on my back and told her to do anything she wanted to me-that didn't involve a condom on my dick. She jerked and sucked me, kissed me passionately on the mouth-stared at me with her incredible eyes, turned me on and exploded me- all over her-with an enthusiastic yet slow and fun handy / blowy session--kind of edging me for a while. She def. Put in a solid effort and it felt great! Though, I did like her more the 1st time. She said she was heading to the Mansion at 6, while I ordered in a pizza and stayed in the room watching sports on my computer.

Day 8: I message New Life girl at 8 am. She responds at 930, tells me she can be at my place at 11-I say perfect. I am waiting. The hotel reception calls me to send her up just after 1230 pm. She left at 6:30 ish PM. I came 4 times. The sex was amazing. It really felt like true love making on a honeymoon. (not that I really know what that is-I am not stupid enough to ever get married!) she was the only girl I ate out. I generally resist hooker pussy in my mouth-but this one was just too tempting. A perfect pussy. This girl never had a kid, and def. Works out a lot. Such a fit and healthy and sexy body. Pretty much perfect. Un sueno! I couldn't resist. She was fresh, clean, def. New to this and just too damm sexy! Delicious tasty and tight. I came once in her pussy, once in her mouth without a condom, once in her hands and on her tits / face, and and once on her ass after fucking her doggy. She said no to anal. And was the only one I wanted to fuck in the ass all trip. S hot! She came more times than me.

Another: If she wasn't a working girl I would marry her for a few weeks. I really would have loved to have been able to fuck her bareback--but I ain't stooooopid! -we have messaged since. She asked to come visit me. I said she is welcome to come, but she has to buy her own ticket. Once here, I will cover anything she needs for up to 2 weeks. She claims she is saving the money. We'll see if she actually saves the money and buys HR own plane tixx like a normal person would. If she makes that effort, then cool, I'll play along. If not. Whatever. I'll hit her up in July when I return.

With this girl: I took a double dose of the generic stuff when the hotel guy called to ask if she could come up to my room- and then 2-3 hours later, 2 more. I don't need it. And didn't take it with each girl--but, I wanted this to be bliss. And it does make it all more intense. We also polished off some smoke and 2 bottles of wine and some food I had in the room. I gave her some nugs for the road. Money was never mentioned until the final goodbyes when I said are you happy with 250 plus txi money-and she gladly smiled. And didn't ask for anything else. Just easy. Nice. 6 hours for 250 COP plus 20 k taxi with one of the sexiest 20 ish year olds I could hope for and she is cool with that. Yes please. As she leaves, I say, wait, and give her 30 k more just because-she deserves it. She didn't even try to haggle or ask for more-and was really totally complaint and agreeable in every way all day. She gave a big hug and thanks and a kiss. And went on her way. Besides, 10 bucks to me is not really anything. Girl leaves in an uber. Shower, nap, buy food at 24 hour supermarket. Room. Chill sleep. My dick was done. Kinda sore-not std sore, but long hard workout sore. My stomach muscles are sore and cramping. Epic. I love Medellin and will be back for most of July and August.

Day 9: flight out of Medellin at 945 am to panama city and then onward.

And that my friends is most of the rest of the story.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2155917]I could. Venezuelans have big foreheads.

That is the bottom line and true of every country.[/QUOTE]So the girl with the big forehead is always the Venezuelan?

Wrong but actually funny, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2156082]So the girl with the big forehead is always the Venezuelan?

Wrong but actually funny, LOL.[/QUOTE]I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.

Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2156059]A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.[/QUOTE]Excellent report buddy. Felt like that we are in Medellin with you. Very detailed and enjoyed reading it.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2156295]I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.

Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.[/QUOTE]Ok, the tall ones with big noses and foreheads.

Got it! LOL.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2156295]I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.

Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with the taller and bigger noses. With the Italian ancestry, we can see why the Roman nose often shows up in a Venezuelan.

We are over generalizing a bit here.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2156295]I know what he means but its actually the Nose you can tell the difference really. THey have this sort of swooping up trinagle thing, they ususally get surgery but its before that.

Also, Venezuelans are much taller as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2156059]A few weeks ago- Early February just after the super bowl-I was in Medellin for the 9th time in 5 years. I like the city. For me it's easy to get to, offers good food options, and of course: hot chicks without a heavy price.

This trip I stayed in Poblado at a hotel near Centro Comercial Santa Fe.

Day 1: I message a girl I met at the Mansion 2-3 years back. We message every now and again through Facebook or Whatsapp-and she is usually my '1st' on each trip to Medellin. Spinner hottie who is an 8 out of 10 with a great vibe. Except for the baby scarring on the belly--so, with the belly covered: everything else is great. I ask her to bring me about 100 k worth of 420. I then go over to the mall and by a nice glass water filtration system at the store that sells items including grow kits since medicine is pretty much legal there. Chica shows up only about 10-15 minutes 'late' because of some traffic--no complaints.

My hotel checks ID and registers all girls at the reception. Then they call to ask if I want her to come up. There is no charge--until 10 pm. After 10 pm, even if it is for 3 minutes, for all guests -not including food delivery-there is a 35 dollar or so charge--so, that's fair..[/QUOTE]Which hotel did you stay in?

Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.

Thanks.

The first thing you should do is secure your valuables. While you and your one dick busy with either of the girls, the other one can get into mischief. Any casa will let you pay extra for a second girl, as will any strip club or escort agency. My experience with lesbians is they don't tend to have much interest in sharing their girlfriends with a guy but I've known many hetereo providers who will pretend to be lesbians. I assume that is close enough. I hope it works out.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2156525]Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2156525]Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Step 1- Come to Medellin and start meeting girls and building a list of contacts.

Step 2 - Any time you have a great session with a girl, tell her what you're looking for. Ask if she knows anyone to fill your request.

Step 3 - Experience disappointment when the girl who promises to provide what you want provides a very limited version.

Step 4 - Repeat step 3 until you either get tired of trying or until you succeed in your quest.

Or someone could give you the names of the girls he was with for a great 3 some. Of course there's no guarantee that only 1 of the girls will show, or 1 will bring a different girl, or 1 or both will be on their period, or you won't have any chemistry with either or they had an argument on the way to you and now don't want to do anything.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2156525]Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If your Spanish is excellent and your not looking for beauty queens, then your in luck. There are lesbians that work the streets in El Centro specifically adjacent to Iglesia De LA Veracruz on Calle 51- # 52-58. And if your also interested in transvestites, well there's a lot of them there as well.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2156525]Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

What would be the best way to find these unique girls? My Spanish is excellent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]First thing, try each girl individually to see how you get along with them. If you have good chemistry with each one individually, you're more likely to have good chemistry with all of you together. If course, you also need to talk with them to ascertain if they legitimately like pussy. Many will say they do when they don't. Your language ability should help. And the more time you have on the ground, the better.

IMO if you want really good three-some experiences, you should go to Brasil. They girls are, on average, more wild and more likely to really be bisexual.

[QUOTE=Combo;2156800]First thing, try each girl individually to see how you get along with them. If you have good chemistry with each one individually, you're more likely to have good chemistry with all of you together. If course, you also need to talk with them to ascertain if they legitimately like pussy. Many will say they do when they don't. Your language ability should help. And the more time you have on the ground, the better.[/QUOTE]Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2156832]Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.[/QUOTE]Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.

Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.

[QUOTE=Chb1234;2156370]Which hotel did you stay in?[/QUOTE]I don't want to be too specific and mess up a good thing or say much more than I have for privacy and risk for flooding the place with people bringing chicks and then doing something stupid so they tighten up the rules and arent cool to me. All I will say is one of the 'Estelar' properties--on different trips I have stayed at each of the Estelar properties and a couple others in Poblado. I have never had an issue with a girl coming over to see me in any hotel.

I always tip the housekeeping generously, leave the room pretty clean, and I leave different gifts like bottles of wine or a bottle of tequila or chocolates etc. For different front desk staff when I check out. I speak Spanish and find something at or near the reception worthy of a compliment I offer to the staff at the desk. I am always nice, quiet, discreet, and I give gifts / tips. I instruct chicas to dress very conservatively when coming to my hotels and ALL of my guests arrive during the day. Its is the rare gem I let stay late into the night. That's just how I roll. Much more low key IMO that way and I feel its just less risk and creates more of a 'we're hanging out together today' vibe than a 'its getting later than late since I am a Medellin chica and I got here 2 hours after I said I would arrive because I was fucking another dude so lets get it on so I can leave before my family figures me out since I am just here to get you off and I am tired' vibe. In other words: chicas care less about clock watching earlier than later.

And I'd rather be the 1st and maybe only dude of the day than the last. I always treat the hotel property and the staff with supreme respect and instruct my girls to as well. No PDA, no kissing in the elevators (they all have cameras) or the halls, etc. And I never have a problem.

It all seems like a lot of work to me, but I'm a lazy. I will just stick to one on one encounters and leave the double teaming to my more imaginative brothers in poon.

[QUOTE=Combo;2156879]Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.

Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.[/QUOTE]

One strong recommendation is Catalina Florez. She is a great fuck, but also is great with a chica. I am not sure if she's lesbo or bi, but she loves chicas. Let her pick the partner. Her friend Luna is a likely choice. With Catalina, you better like tatoos and who knows what hair style / color.

A less enthusiastic recommendation is Yisela Restrepo. YMMV, but she is a confirmed bi and definitely likes to eat pussy. Just be sure she brings someone who is into it. Might be worth a try. But you better like silicon, because Yisela has ass and tit implants.

[QUOTE=Combo;2156879]Actually in Colombia, for a good threesome, I've needed thought / planning as I described. I'm talking about where the girls are enthusiastic about eating pussy, fingering each other, etc. Chicas will frequently say they'll eat each other, but when it comes "down" to it, they barely put their mouth there to fake it. I'm guessing the OP is looking for an enthusiastic performance. And with his language proficiency he can ensure that goal.

Now in Brasil, your odds are actually decent just picking two random girls and having them interact enthusiastically. But since he's going to Colombia, I think a bit of strategy would behoove him.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2156832]Man y'all put too much thought into this shit. It is simple. Grab 2 broads and ask them if they will eat each other out. If not, replace the one that will not. Go fuck them. Pay them. Then go on about your business. No need to waste money and time fucking them separately and looking for chemistry. Not like you are looking to spend a lifetime with either of them.[/QUOTE]I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.

I agree with every bit of what you wrote. Especially the part about Veracruz lesbians not being beauty queens. I do see butch / femme couples out shopping together or in restaurants around Laureles that I find attractive. The Veracruz lesbians, well it's been a few years since I've drunk enough to give any of them a go.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2157033]I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2157033]I'm not into lesbians but I bet I could make this type of arrangement in El Centro in less than an hour. I would simply identify a lesbian and tell her what I want and make a monetary offer for her to contact one of her friends. I can tell you if you were to offer 100 K to each girl they would be jumping out of their shoes to earn that type of money which is a lot in El Centro The obvious downside is that the Chicas won't be beauty queens.[/QUOTE]I actually am looking for good looking bisexual girls! The easy part is asking random working girls and to be explicit in Spanish of expectations.

What I looking for it there was a particular location, website, bar, street, brothel, in which would be most advantageous to start this quest.

I promise I'll report back my success or failure!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2157016]One strong recommendation is Catalina Florez. She is a great fuck, but also is great with a chica. I am not sure if she's lesbo or bi, but she loves chicas. Let her pick the partner. Her friend Luna is a likely choice. With Catalina, you better like tatoos and who knows what hair style / color.[/QUOTE]All time best of many great threesomes: Katalina and Luna TLN.

Taberna Montijos.

Diagonal 50 #49-15.

Just a block away from Parque Berrio station, this is the closest strip club to the metro. I stopped in very briefly a few months ago with some friends. It was either Sunday or a holiday and we were the only customers. At that time there were 2 girls sitting, but neither seemed interested in us. After a quick beer we left.

Stopped by yesterday evening around 6 pm for a beer and to have a second look. Stayed for about an hour and a few guys came in and out. It's a small club, smaller than Grill Nueva. They have 7 girls working and I assume sex is available. I didn't ask, as it wasn't on my agenda. They only do stripping on Friday and Saturday nights when there are more customers.

The girl I talked with was girl next door cute, although the body looked average. She asked how much I would pay for a show and when I offered 20 k she asked which girl I wanted to see. She refused to do the show herself, so I passed.

Of the 7 girls, 1 had a beer belly, 1 I couldn't get a good look at, 2 had average bodies although one looked like a real natural blond. The other 3 looked very good, at least in the dim light. Depending on the price I would take at least 4 of the 7. I'd need a closer inspection for 2 others. The place exceeded my expectations.

Beers were 4 k.

The number one most important thing is asking the girls to dress conservatively. All the rest helps but it is optional compared to how the girl is dressed. If girls show up in 1970's streetwalker attire of the sort Plaza Botero / Veracruz chicas wear you will get a lot of front desk problems. If they show up dressed conservatively there will be fewer problems.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2157005]I don't want to be too specific and mess up a good thing or say much more than I have for privacy and risk for flooding the place with people bringing chicks and then doing something stupid so they tighten up the rules and arent cool to me. All I will say is one of the 'Estelar' properties--on different trips I have stayed at each of the Estelar properties and a couple others in Poblado. I have never had an issue with a girl coming over to see me in any hotel.

I always tip the housekeeping generously, leave the room pretty clean, and I leave different gifts like bottles of wine or a bottle of tequila or chocolates etc. For different front desk staff when I check out. I speak Spanish and find something at or near the reception worthy of a compliment I offer to the staff at the desk. I am always nice, quiet, discreet, and I give gifts / tips. I instruct chicas to dress very conservatively when coming to my hotels and ALL of my guests arrive during the day. Its is the rare gem I let stay late into the night. That's just how I roll. Much more low key IMO that way and I feel its just less risk and creates more of a 'we're hanging out together today' vibe than a 'its getting later than late since I am a Medellin chica and I got here 2 hours after I said I would arrive because I was fucking another dude so lets get it on so I can leave before my family figures me out since I am just here to get you off and I am tired' vibe. In other words: chicas care less about clock watching earlier than later.

And I'd rather be the 1st and maybe only dude of the day than the last. I always treat the hotel property and the staff with supreme respect and instruct my girls to as well. No PDA, no kissing in the elevators (they all have cameras) or the halls, etc. And I never have a problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2157374]Taberna Montijos.
Diagonal 50 #49-15.
Just a block away from Parque Berrio station, this is the closest strip club to the metro. I stopped in very briefly a few months ago with some friends. It was either Sunday or a holiday and we were the only customers. At that time there were 2 girls sitting, but neither seemed interested in us. After a quick beer we left.[/QUOTE]If you get a chance could you checkout GrillVenecia, upstairs corner bar on the Veracruz back block, CL. 51 #53-10, I meant to when I was in town 2 weeks ago but did not make it.

The entrance is around the corner on Calle 51.

I have been spending the past two weeks visiting the casas, being here for a month now and so need a budget adjustment as I have spent to much pesos over at the likes of Fase Dos and Luna Lunera and so the casas have helped curb my spending.

Had visited New Life 3 times in the past week and must say out of 15 or so chicas all but about 3 are doable. You just can't beat the 30 minutes for 50 mil, damn that's like $18. USD! And have enjoyed each of the 3 chicas, all different each visit.

Walking around yesterday was handed 4 or 5 new casas (here are 3 below) and so actually went to one called FANTASIA and checked out the 6 chicas they had yesterday, I did not partake but one or two were doable, hell they charge 43 mil for 30 minutes, that is $15.35, damn right, may be back tomorrow or Monday.

TTM.

You should only be paying 110 K at Luna Lunera, especially in the daytime. You can also get in on the little used 15 minute rate at New Life if you skip the half assed massage & fake get to know your chit chat then put your clothes on and head to the cashier as soon as you are done. The girls like to chat you up or tell you to wait while they shower after you are done so they collect pay for doing what they will do after you are gone anyway. One of them once told me "you have to wait for me here" as I was walking to out the room door. LOL!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2157436]I have been spending the past two weeks visiting the casas, being here for a month now and so need a budget adjustment as I have spent to much pesos over at the likes of Fase Dos and Luna Lunera and so the casas have helped curb my spending.

Had visited New Life 3 times in the past week and must say out of 15 or so chicas all but about 3 are doable. You just can't beat the 30 minutes for 50 mil, damn that's like $18. USD! And have enjoyed each of the 3 chicas, all different each visit.

Walking around yesterday was handed 4 or 5 new casas (here are 3 below) and so actually went to one called FANTASIA and checked out the 6 chicas they had yesterday, I did not partake but one or two were doable, hell they charge 43 mil for 30 minutes, that is $15.35, damn right, may be back tomorrow or Monday.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HBoy54;2157063]All time best of many great threesomes: Katalina and Luna TLN.[/QUOTE]And you lived to tell about it! I've seen both separately and although I'm in my 60's I'm in fair shape. Those two tag-teaming some old gringo could definitely be deadly. But what better way to go.

I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. The only reason I haven't banged a girl at Fase dos, is we haven't agreed on pics. One chica at Fase dos quoted me 600 mil for 3 hours. I thought about it, and said only if I can take as many pics as I wanted, face included, she said that she would think about it. I'm a business man and I treat everything like business. It will be hard for me to stay any other than Centro & Parque Botero, I know where the bags of ice are, I know where my favorite chicken spot is, I know how to move around Veracruz and the church area and I know most of the strip clubs are in the area. I can't speak for other areas, but I usually thrive in run down areas. I speak Spanish fluently, I was able to negotiate many deals with the girls to get what I wanted. Long story short, bring extra cash for tipping and your stay anywhere in Medellin should be unforgettable, LOL!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157570]I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. [/QUOTE]Oh man you should have talked to me, I had 4 to 5 girls to my room at the Botero when you were there and I didn't give the desk guy squat, they didn't say anything and didn't ask for ID. And if you were going to tip him, a 10 k or 20 k note would have been fine. But I am sure you made his day so that's something!

It's great that you have an unlimited supply of money to throw around. You are a true rock star.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157570]Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll.[/QUOTE]I've always felt its the exact opposite. Brazil, Sao Paolo especially has places that are very expensive (I'm looking at you Scandaloo); however those clubs are worth every penny. Good whiskey. Good food. Pornstar quality women. If you are ever going to be in Sao Paolo you have to visit Scandaloo once is what every monger has told me. Sao Paolo has the capacity to meet your spending needs because you actually get quality products. Shit, there was even a boate with a bowling alley there and a pizzaeria and all the hookers you could ever fuck.

Medellin on the other hand has far less infrastructure and the strip clubs are not all that great. Most brothels are dirty and in areas that are not safe (no matter what people say here Centro is not safe and you need to watch your back).

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157570]I can't speak for other areas, but I usually thrive in run down areas. I speak Spanish fluently, I was able to negotiate many deals with the girls to get what I wanted. Long story short, bring extra cash for tipping and your stay anywhere in Medellin should be unforgettable, LOL![/QUOTE]I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2157778]I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.[/QUOTE]Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'

Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157570]The only reason I haven't banged a girl at Fase dos, is we haven't agreed on pics. One chica at Fase dos quoted me 600 mil for 3 hours. I thought about it, and said only if I can take as many pics as I wanted, face included, she said that she would think about it. I'm a business man and I treat everything like business.[/QUOTE]And there lies your problem. Instead of just going to have fun, you want to treat everything like business. Me, my dad, my youngest brother, and a couple of friends took chicks at Fase 2. We didn't ask for anything beforehand, but after EVERYONE had pics to show for it.

I know a few people who will never have money concerns. None of them talk about it.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2157783]Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'

Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'[/QUOTE]

I've always thought that Balcony would be a fun place to drink beer and people watch but I haven't ever been up there.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2157425]If you get a chance could you checkout GrillVenecia, upstairs corner bar on the Veracruz back block, CL. 51 #53-10, I meant to when I was in town 2 weeks ago but did not make it.

The entrance is around the corner on Calle 51.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2157792]And there lies your problem. Instead of just going to have fun, you want to treat everything like business.[/QUOTE]Well said.
That's how to spoil not only the local market ("I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply") but also his own personal enjoyment. Go and act as a business man, and you'll be treated as a piece of business.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2157783]Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'

Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'[/QUOTE]Anyone with an endless supply of money feel free to toss about $50 k USD my way. I'll even provide a very sincere receipt for your charitable donation so you can deduct it.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2157783]Well, on 11 March, Pollo Negro posted this: 'I'm a different kind of thrill seeker. I have no limit on money, I have a endless supply.'

Wonder how that attitude will work out in the long run in El Centro. I'm just sayin.'[/QUOTE]I think Pollo Negro is a troll. If you read between the lines of his posts, he's doing almost everything low budget. He says he stays downtown and at a chica's house, both should be inexpensive. He never posts about going to the high-end places, but he probably will now that I have pointed it out. He doesn't show pictures or post names of any chicas he's been with. If he is real and gives the chicas lots of money, then that is good. They won't need much from the rest of us.

But he could be like the New England Patriots' player who was caught taking drugs into Costa Rica. Plenty of money but no brain power.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2157890]I think Pollo Negro is a troll. If you read between the lines of his posts, he's doing almost everything low budget. He says he stays downtown and at a chica's house, both should be inexpensive. He never posts about going to the high-end places, but he probably will now that I have pointed it out. He doesn't show pictures or post names of any chicas he's been with. If he is real and gives the chicas lots of money, then that is good. They won't need much from the rest of us.[/QUOTE]He went to MED with me and stayed in Centro on my advice based on what he wanted, IE girls who would consent to videoing & photos. He went where I took him which did include Fase II but those girls aren't as likely to want to be videoed compared to Centro chicks IMO.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2157778]I've always felt its the exact opposite. Brazil, Sao Paolo especially has places that are very expensive (I'm looking at you Scandaloo); however those clubs are worth every penny. Good whiskey. Good food. Pornstar quality women. If you are ever going to be in Sao Paolo you have to visit Scandaloo once is what every monger has told me. Sao Paolo has the capacity to meet your spending needs because you actually get quality products. Shit, there was even a boate with a bowling alley there and a pizzaeria and all the hookers you could ever fuck.

Medellin on the other hand has far less infrastructure and the strip clubs are not all that great. Most brothels are dirty and in areas that are not safe (no matter what people say here Centro is not safe and you need to watch your back).

I don't understand how centro Medellin is built for a bankroll. Especially compared to mongering in Brazil. Its not even subjective. The data doesn't reflect this unless you're intentionally paying 4 x the local prices.[/QUOTE]You're totally correct.

What that guy posted sounds like he really has no clue.

Troll or BS artist or moron, hard to tell, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2157896]You're totally correct.

What that guy posted sounds like he really has no clue.

Troll or BS artist or moron, hard to tell, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited. Had a great time in Medellin as well. Fluent in Spanish and just don't have time for the hassle of not getting what I want out of the deal. I was in Medellin 7 days, banged about 24 girls, filmed everyone of them. Given the going rates in the US, I feel the deals I made were fair. My wing man taught me a lot, thanks Wolf. Also buying an apartment here soon. Loved the people, the Spanish was very easy in comparison to Puerto Rican dialect. I could easily blow $5 k a month and not miss it. In 7 days I didn't spend $2 k, and if you're truly about business and know the lay of the land, cell phones are as good as cash, not to mention casio watches. Seems to me, if you have a plan, finances, and a few reliable friends on this board, you can get anything you want. The only thing I was short on in Medellin, was time! I'll try not to tip as much next time, I'll try not to be so obvious that I'm about business, but truth is, I came to Medellin to bang women, women that were gorgeous, and that my friends, I did. I was also with 2 other mongers who went up to Poblado or some other section of Medellin, they called and said, for your bucks, the best bang is in Centro, so I stayed put. I have no idea if you guys have ever hung out in Carolina, Bayamon, Mayaguez PR, but coming up in those places, Centro & Vera cruz wasn't all that bad. To bang 24 women in one week on your first time in a country was pretty good by my standards, you can always PM for footage. One thing I try not to do on the ISG is mislead anyone. Less than $2000 US for 24 women of the caliber I banged, to me was a fair deal. Sorry if I seem trollish. I thank everyone for all the tips & information you all have provided. I will be visiting Medellin, every 6 weeks! Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157570]I can tell you this about girls and the front desk, Medellin is the first trust city in which I can honestly say, money gets things done. Brazil was fun, and exotic and new, but Medellin is a city built for guys with a bankroll. I had no less than 5 girls, in my room at the time and I never had a problem getting them past the front desk, I looked at the dude sitting at the desk, gave him $50 mil, and he never even saw the girls going up to my room. [/QUOTE]Woops, I stand corrected, he did mean 5 girls at the same time, yeah I could see tipping the desk guy to look the other way for that!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157907]I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited. Had a great time in Medellin as well. Fluent in Spanish and just don't have time for the hassle of not getting what I want out of the deal. I was in Medellin 7 days, banged about 24 girls, filmed everyone of them. Given the going rates in the US, I feel the deals I made were fair. My wing man taught me a lot, thanks Wolf. Also buying an apartment here soon. Loved the people, the Spanish was very easy in comparison to Puerto Rican dialect. I could easily blow $5 k a month and not miss it. In 7 days I didn't spend $2 k, and if you're truly about business and know the lay of the land, cell phones are as good as cash, not to mention casio watches. Seems to me, if you have a plan, finances,..................... and a few reliable friends on this board, you can get anything you want. The only thing I was short on in Medellin, was time! I'll try not to tip as much next time, To bang 24 women in one week on your first time in a country was pretty good by my standards, you can always PM for footage. One thing I try not to do on the ISG is mislead anyone. Less than $2000 US for 24 women of the caliber I banged, to me was a fair deal. Sorry if I seem trollish. I thank everyone for all the tips & information you all have provided. I will be visiting Medellin, every 6 weeks! Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month![/QUOTE]And still, no one cares.

Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157907]I have visited Brazil, several times, I speak Portuguenol as they say in Brazil, had an absolute blast. I'm no troll, my money is truly unlimited ![/QUOTE]Just sounds so cheesy saying that, really.

There's plenty of us that have unlimited funds in Colombia, but only the ones who wear big watches, actually verbalize it, LOL.

I believe they are still in business. Why don't you telephone them during the week?

[QUOTE=Lion55;2158217]Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2157907] Be back soon, let you know when I touch down next month![/QUOTE]We'll be waiting with bated breath. Or not.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2158228]Just sounds so cheesy saying that, really.

There's plenty of us that have unlimited funds in Colombia, but only the ones who wear big watches, actually verbalize it, LOL.[/QUOTE]I would guess that a high percentage of us regular hobbyists have money to burn. I'd also guess that most of that group is smart enough to not advertise it to everyone.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2158217]Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.[/QUOTE]It is still open. Whoever takes care of their website failed to renew their domain name. It expired on March 20. Hopefully someone there has noticed it. It's real simple to renew, just pay a little.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2158298]It is still open. Whoever takes care of their website failed to renew their domain name. It expired on March 20. Hopefully someone there has noticed it. It's real simple to renew, just pay a little.[/QUOTE]Fuck! Yeah please don't let this place close!

It is my fav casa of all time. In the whole world.

I know they have new management lately so perhaps they will take care of it.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2157912]Woops, I stand corrected, he did mean 5 girls at the same time, yeah I could see tipping the desk guy to look the other way for that![/QUOTE]Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.

I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.

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I've done plenty of research but just wanted to see if there was a concise guide to all the best places to monger?

I speak fluent Spanish and I don't care about meeting "real" girls. All girls are [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] IMO. Just want a list of the top spots like Fase Dos etc. Or even better places that may have not come up in my research.

The second peice of advice I would appreciate is do all of you get airbnbs? Or do you get motels / hotels? A lot of the airbnb listings say no guests etc.

But I'm gonna clearly break that rule unless otherwise instructed by y'all.

Thanks for the help in advance!

DP.

This is only my opinion but I don't judge them to be the best money can buy.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2158317]Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.

I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2158317]Thanks for the photo, Wolf. I thought you had posted that in jest until I read farther down that you were there with Pollo Negro. I realize everyone has their own likes and dislikes, and I respect that; but if I was with either one of four of those in the photo, I would hope no one has a photo or video of us. The one with the hunting knife in her bottoms may be okay if she kept her mouth closed.

I was wrong when I thought Pollo Negro was a troll, but I still maintain that his posts are not indicative of someone with unlimited wealth. More power to him if it is true. I don't begrudge people because of their money.[/QUOTE]Well like I said last week, "If we all liked the same thing, you'd all be after my old lady. " I think it was the comedian Tim Thomerson who said that.

Yeah he goes for the darker big bootie girls more them me, I may steer him to the DR, like Sosua for a trip.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2158301]Fuck! Yeah please don't let this place close!

It is my fav casa of all time. In the whole world.

I know they have new management lately so perhaps they will take care of it.[/QUOTE]It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2158217]Does anyone know whether Energy in Estadio is still in business? I note that their website is no longer operational. I'm visiting MDE in a couple of weeks and Energy has been one of my regular spots during previous visits.[/QUOTE]They appeared to be open last week when I walked by. Doesn't surprise me their website is down. That thing hasn't been changed for years, other than updating prices.

Went down hoping to see Lucy at Club Sexxy Amiga, but she wasn't working and nobody in the lineup impressed me.

Walked to New Life and their lineup was pretty light. More guys waiting than girls available. However Cari looked good enough to try. Big butt and perfectly shaped boobs, natural and firm. Looks and body were excellent. Service was about average. She did ask if I wanted BBBJ or CBJ. I am fine with CBJ in a casa, so I don't know what her upcharge is. BJ skills were above average. 50 k for the half hour.

New Life has signs posted. They will be closed Thursday and Friday and open regular hours Saturday and Sunday.

I appreciate all of the information on the board, it's very informative and clearly I must be taken in wrong context. I'm a fun loving dude, that enjoys beautiful women. I'm not into wrestling or fussing. If I see what I like I negotiate or pass. I'm just a upfront guy. I'm into details before I hit the room. Saw a lot in Medellin was pleased will return. Sorry if I sound cheesy, and I don't wear big watches, nice gesture but it doesn't change the pleasures I found in Medellin. Thanks for all who provide valuable information.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=DonPollo;2158329]I've done plenty of research but just wanted to see if there was a concise guide to all the best places to monger?

I speak fluent Spanish and I don't care about meeting "real" girls. Just want a list of the top spots like Fase Dos etc. Or even better places that may have not come up in my research.[/QUOTE]Watch the 30 min video on this page for a primer, the top of the line places are Loutron Spa, Las Islas strip club, Fase Dos strip club, Energy massage and then down the list a bit to Luna Lunera strip club, San Diego strip club and New Life brothel.

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2158408]I'm a fun loving dude, that enjoys beautiful women.

Just like everyone else on this forum.

If I see what I like I negotiate or pass.

Just like everyone else on this forum.

Saw a lot in Medellin was pleased will return.

Just like everyone else on this forum.[/QUOTE]The reason you got cross threaded with several guys is the bragging about your 'endless supply of money'.

Not Just like everyone else on this forum.

Like someone else posted, the guys that truly have an 'endless supply of money' don't post / brag about it. Even if you don't call it bragging, that's what it comes across as. The big watch thing was just a metaphor. I to am a huge fan of El Centro after my last trip so enjoy, continued success & be careful & I'm sure our paths will meet at someday.

El Mechanico.

Hey guys,

Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.

Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.

Day 2- To overcome the previous day, I decided to go to New Life, as everybody posted good reviews about it, there weren't wrong. They had like 8 girls only but all of them were doable for sure, between pretty faces and nice bodies. I had a session with a blonde girl, I don't remember her name but she was good, nothing extraordinary but fairly good, 50 k for 30 minutes. After I finished I was about to leave but when I met the girls, another girl caught my eyes too, her name is Lucy, she is a petite brunette with red died hair, so I hanged a little bit around the waiting areas and had some beers, until my session with her. Lucy is very funny and chatty, she is very good with BJs, and very very good in sex so I decided to spend a little more time with her, 1 hour with 2 beers I paid 88 K, awesome.

Today, I'm going to check out Zandalys casa as it has good reviews too. Thanks again for all your reviews guys!

[QUOTE=MrRobot;2158701]Hey guys,

Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.

Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities[/QUOTE]Mileroticos by its nature is hit and miss, as are agencies, etc. Anything you see on the internet is subject to being fake.

Stick with casas, strip clubs, and the street. Places where you can see what you are getting into.

If you will be here after Wednesday be sure to line something up in advance. Thursday and Friday will be almost impossible. Buena suerte.

[QUOTE=MrRobot;2158701]Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.[/QUOTE]Exactly why in my 4 trips so far to MED I have yet to call any online ad girls. Old photos, touched up photos, fake photos and that's before you even get to personality and sexuality. I did use SA (seeking arrangements) my 1st trip as I was already a member but that was 50/50, 1 hot / cool chick, 1 old photo now much heavier crazy girl.

You may get a hot fun one but then again as you found out you may not.

I don't even do the Casa's like New Life anymore, (I have been there 3 times though) too hard to get a reading on compatibility from just a 3 second "Hola". Casa's where you can hang out with the chick and get a beer etc I do like, like Yakusa, although they have a slim selection usually.

Strip Clubs and the street girls, both you can talk to the girl a bit and get a much better reading on chemistry / sexiness would can make a huge difference. (assuming you speak enough Spanish).

Also, "Street girls" in MED are not the same thing as Street Walkers in the US (Although MED has some of those also) They are independent self-employed sex workers who stay near a short term hotel they work out of and while many of them aren't that hot, some indeed are. I have met a many lower end strip club and street girls who could easily work at a upper strip club like Fase Dos, when asked they told me they like to work their own hours and have their own or less rules, places like FaseII have both lots of rules and schedules for the girls to abide by.

Heading to the city of eternal spring in a few weeks and wanted to run through my plans quickly to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.

I'll be staying at Hotel M (been before to Medellin for work, so only had time to bring two chicks back from Fase II, Spanish not good enough to go at it alone). I'll be there Monday night through Friday afternoon. Plan to use the in house offerings mostly, but have plans to check out some other places too:

1. Loutron, for daytime to see how it measures up.

2. Energy or new life, just because I've seen it mentioned a few times (worth checking out with my other plans?

3. La Isla and maybe Fase II Just to get some late night fun in if the in house women aren't available.

I've made about 4-5 Facebook connections as well that I plan to test a few out.

Am I missing anything? Any of my ideas not look good? It'll be April 9-13, thanks.

Very sorry to hear about that Mr. Wolfman. I think the disinfectant spray bottle is a fad that is fading. I feel for you about the cock block maneuver. Most experienced guys have had to suffer through the knuckle to the groin move. A major boner killer.

So Energy is nice. I'm neutral about the dressing gown routine. The cleanliness of the facility is a major plus. New Life, Zandaly, and especially Amigas Sexi in Centro all keep their places clean. Aiffe, Fantasias, and Coffee Shop not so much. LOL! I have to say that Energy is lately starting to fall a little bit behind on upkeep. Maybe I need to visit less but they place is starting to look and feel a little "lived in" as in dated. They need to redecorate slightly because the furnishings are a big part of the formula for these mid and upper range places. I'm probably off base because let's face it, the place is almost as popular as New Life even though it costs more than twice as much.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2158371]It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.[/QUOTE]

If you like tall girls, Salome at Zandaly is a good worker. If you like short girls Nicole is a legend at Zandaly, very famous on the Colombian forums.

[QUOTE=MrRobot;2158701]Hey guys,

Let me start saying that I'm a big fan of the forum, I've been following it since some time now and I just decided to join, so I can contribute as well. OK, so last week I was in Panama for work (I will post a review in that forum as well), and I decided to have a couple days of vacations, I already been in Barranquilla, Cartagena and Bogota, I read very good reviews of Medellin so I decided to come here.

Day 1- The worst day tbh, in the past I had some good experiences with girls from mileroticos in other cities, so I decided why not? Also she had an add in escortsfantasia, the girl in the add looked very good and it was 150 k an hour. So I arranged a visit to her apartment, it is located in some place called Torres del Rio, when I got there, a chubby girl opens the door and told me that the girl I was looking for was out for dinner and she didn't know when she was going to come back even when 5 minutes before we spoke in whatsapp of course there I realized it was a scam. She had like 3 girls inside the apt. All of them mature, around 35-40's, so I of course ranted about it and got the hell out of there immediately. I can no longer find the add in mileroticos but this is the last time I will use that for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Straber;2158823]Heading to the city of eternal spring in a few weeks and wanted to run through my plans quickly to see if anyone has any comments or suggestions.

I'll be staying at Hotel M (been before to Medellin for work, so only had time to bring two chicks back from Fase II, Spanish not good enough to go at it alone). I'll be there Monday night through Friday afternoon. Plan to use the in house offerings mostly, but have plans to check out some other places too:

1. Loutron, for daytime to see how it measures up.

2. Energy or new life, just because I've seen it mentioned a few times (worth checking out with my other plans?

3. La Isla and maybe Fase II Just to get some late night fun in if the in house women aren't available.

I've made about 4-5 Facebook connections as well that I plan to test a few out.

Am I missing anything? Any of my ideas not look good? It'll be April 9-13, thanks.[/QUOTE]IMO you have more than enough to cover four days. I might add have dinner and take a stroll through Parque Lleras Wednesday or Thursday night just to soak in the atmosphere / energy (assuming it's nice weather).

[QUOTE=Combo;2158864]IMO you have more than enough to cover four days. I might add have dinner and take a stroll through Parque Lleras Wednesday or Thursday night just to soak in the atmosphere / energy (assuming it's nice weather).[/QUOTE]Thanks, just wanted to make sure there weren't any must sees I was missing. Would really like to get at least one true VIP of some kind (pornstar or model), but haven't had luck.

Been to Parque Lleras, nice place. If I find a chick I like or some guys to hang out with, I may go have dinner before heading back to the hotel or going to La Isla (found it to be much better than Fase II.

This will be my only horn dog trip for the year, so I am making the best of it. An escort friend of mine in the states challenged me to match her record of 10 fucks in a day LOL.

I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?

I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2158911]I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?

I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?[/QUOTE]You have to negotiate BBBJ for propina. How much depends on the chica.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2158911]I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?

I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?[/QUOTE]The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2157850]Anyone with an endless supply of money feel free to toss about $50 k USD my way. I'll even provide a very sincere receipt for your charitable donation so you can deduct it.[/QUOTE]So I was thinking about starting a business in Medellin for business travelers that would include a orientation meeting and tour of the city with some history and other networking meetings designed for brainstorming and inspiration on how to grow your business network, financial strategies and business development skills. Reciepts and schedule of meetings and events provided. Would anyone be interested in this?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2158911]I recently came back from mde and went to new life 3 x. I read a lot of guys getting BBBJ all the time but that was not the case for me at all. Is this something you have to negotiate?

I took a girl from la Isla and Fase dos and all the same. Only CBJ. My hygiene is excellent and I am an above average to good looking guy 40 years old. So I'm just wondering maybe go for the less hotter girls?[/QUOTE]Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.

In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.

Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.

I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.

Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2159029]The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.[/QUOTE]Can you give me some help with the Facebook girls. I have heard great things about Medellin girls however I don't eve and ow how to get started. I will be going back to Mde quite often. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2158371]It's funny, Energy is the only place in MED where I had a bad session. Now that was only one visit and I am sure another chick might have been great but the girl I was with rubbed my junk down with some kind of disinfectant that burned and then kept her hand in the way to prevent full penetration. Had much more fun with the 30 k Centro street chicks I have seen.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming the disinfectant was a prelude to BBBJ in which case I would not mind as it would soon be cooled and the heat followed by the cooling would make for a good experience. As for the holding the condom, when that happens I try to go for CIM if available or negotiable.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2159153]Its more about where you meet them then about who they are.

In my experience, the girls found at higher priced venues tend to have more rules and be less flexible with their service.

Energy is still open. 125 for half hour. 150 for an hour.

I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.

Photoprepagos and Mileroticos to name a few, in my opinion offer great value! Especially to someone with little experience in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Your fourth paragraph is key. Once a chica has dealt with tourists who will tip her for "extras" such as BBBJ, it becomes almost automatic that she won't do it without a tip. The tip may be small (10 or 20 mil), but she expects something.

I used to always get BBBJ in Energy without asking. But the swarms of tourists have changed that.

I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159243]I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.[/QUOTE]You never want to tarnish your moniker, do you?

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2159153]I have said before, there are plenty of girls in medellin who will accept 150 and even 100. If you are chatting up chicas who primarily deal with tourists, negotiating lower prices will be more difficult.[/QUOTE]There are plenty who will accept 30 k also. IE $10 US. My last trip the most fun girl I was with was 30 k, tongue down my throat in the elevator before we even got to my room, BBBJ, passionate, etc, cute, petite, no body fat. She was such a Raver chick though she may have been rolling on Molly (MDMA / Ecstasy) for all I know.

Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159243]I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.[/QUOTE]If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159288]If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.[/QUOTE]So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159316]So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.[/QUOTE]I like to be generous while on vacation, especially to the poorer Barrio girls in Centro. Asking for $7 change would be distasteful / cheap to me and I have no problem giving them 50 k the next time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159316]So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.[/QUOTE]When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.

As always, YMMV.

With Facebook girls 100% are collecting 2 to 3 times the cost of casa girls and 50% more than strip club girls. So, it's basically a wash in terms of cost. If time has no value, then the Facebook girls are probably a better value. There is much less waiting and wondering with casa and strip club girls.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2159029]The casa and strip club girls have all learned that guys will pay from 20 - 50 k more for BBBJ, so they mostly insist on it. I've never paid for it, because it's not worth it to me. With Facebook girls about 75% have gone to the BBBJ without hesitation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159243]I love it when some ying yang says, 'I negotiated X and Y for a price of Z and then I tipped her 50% more. ' Then WTF was the point of the negotiation? Fucking gringos.[/QUOTE]Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

This system has these benefits:

1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".

Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159288]If some Centro chick quotes me 30 k and does a great enthusiastic job, I have no problem giving her 50 k, the 20 k is only $7 dollars to me, the price of a QTR pounder meal at McD's but it means a lot to a poor barrio girl. And she is happy to see me the next time I pass by and has even more enthusiasm. I think $17 is a more fair deal for everybody, YMMV.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

I juts want to share my experience at Medellin, not much to report.

Walking street girls neer la Iglesia de Veracruz, disappointing, really there were like 50 women, no one over a 5. Maybe one girl that was inside a house, but I did not enter to have a closer look. Nothing there.

Fase II, also maybe lots of 5, some 6's one or two 7 and one 8, but that girl was very busy with one guy and not available. So had to move on.

I just went to one spa, that is the worst spa, I really was advise by someone here not to go, but it was close to the hotel, the secret spa, and I should have heard the advise. Just 4 girls, but all less than a 5 really. Don't go there.

The only place I found a nice girl was at gusto, and a couple of nice girls there, that is the only place I would recommend, prices start at 200 USD, but most get down to 400 K or 300 K COP.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2159380]Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.[/QUOTE]I have done that also, saw my girlie Louisa when I was showing PolloNegro around, she said she was hungry so I gave her 20 k and went on with the tour.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2159380]Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.[/QUOTE]I believe most of the members of this board don't partake in the El Centro street girls as they either don't have the language skills or the stomach for the scene there. As far as what Wolf did, I do the same when I find a gem I want to repeat with. As far as pricing inflation, there are not a lot of tourists in El Centro banging street girls so the prices are not going to be screwed up there like you think.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159325]When a girl looks this happy to see me the next time I feel like I am doing something right.

As always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159551]Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip![/QUOTE]It is amazing how the point can just fly over people's heads. It has nothing to do with some made up happiness level or not being able to afford something. As the man said, if them being so poor was such a big issue to you, you would go around handing out money without fucking them. But I guess they have not fallen to that level of poordom yet. And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159556] And besides that, hasn't Wolf said that half those chicks are drug addicts anyway? You act like you are contributing to her college fund. The dopeman thanks you for your generous contribution.[/QUOTE]No I have not said. As far as I can tell none of them I have met are unless you count smoking weed. Some of the strippers I have met have been coke heads but the street girls I have hung out with have been bright eyed and bushy tailed. I have experience in the US with opiate addicts, crack heads, meth users, zanex queens, etc, I know the signs.

[QUOTE=LVMonger;2159340]Over 45 years of mongering, I've put some thought to this topic of "overpaying". Since the end of the V'Nam war, I've seen a lot of good places come and go, mostly do to wealthy gringos who destroy.

The foreign economy and cause a nightmare situation for the local guys.

I barter hard to get the same prices as locals for anything I buy. I'm more than happy to walk away from any deal (pussy or street food) if I think I'm being overcharged because I'm a foreigner.

I resent that and an unwilling to mess up the existing economy.

On the other hand, in my mind, tipping is a whole different matter. It is separate from the original transaction as the price had already been established and I feel I had won out. If I feel I've had exceptionally.

Great service or am just feeling generous that day, I usually give a good tip. I feel really good about that as I have been very blessed in my life and tossing an extra $5 or 10 their way is no BFD to me at all.

This system has these benefits:

1) The negotiated price is fair and reasonable. I'm not paying more because I'm a gringo, farang, foreigner bule or whatever. It doesn't hurt the local guy and the girl expects to continue to agree to that amount in the future.

2) The tip system incentivises the girl to perform well and to please. I don't mind at all if I'm getting extra good service because she hope to get a tip. That is a "beautiful thing" as long as it is not negotiated.

3) The next time a fellow like me comes along, that young lady will try extra hard for him. This sets a good precedence for my fellow countrymen.

4) It rewards good behavior. Better that the girl delivers well than becomes a shrewd negotiator.

5) It helps to keep the buyer in control. The tip happens after the deed thus she gets no extra benefits until the end when the client is fully satisfied.

If we all used this system, we'd have much better experiences in these "lands of opportunity".[/QUOTE]Experience talks!

My experience tells me the same!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159281]Call me crazy but when I go to the trouble of negotiating a price, I want that to be the price. If that makes me a dickhead, I am fine with that. Fools and their money are soon parted, of course, whereas I have toured the world quite effectively using my basic negotiating strategy of if we agree on X, it is X, y punto.[/QUOTE]I'm sure your system works.

And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.

I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

Plus it makes me feel good.

Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.

If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.

Motivation.

I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.

It's not mine.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2159380]Maybe you should just give her 7 dollars without having sex with her. She's a poor barriio girl and needs your help either way. And that way it doesn't screw up prices.

Unfortunately I believe pricing inflation due to tourists is an inevitability.[/QUOTE]The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.

Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159551]Wolff662, you strike me as being not only a happy person but also as human, unlike your critics on this board. How miserable must someone be who would get good service from a poor chica and cannot afford to give her a US $7. 00 tip![/QUOTE]I agree!

Happy times brotha!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2158452]Watch the 30 min video on this page for a primer, the top of the line places are Loutron Spa, Las Islas strip club, Fase Dos strip club, Energy massage and then down the list a bit to Luna Lunera strip club, San Diego strip club and New Life brothel.

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks! The clip was very helpful.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159316]So the next time are you negotiating 30 again? Because now you got her expecting 50. How do you know she wouldn't have the same enthusiasm had you not given her another 20? Maybe she is just happy to see you as a repeat customer regardless. It is funny how guys attribute a chick treating them well the next time to them giving them more money the first time. I say it is a figment of their imagination. Meanwhile I am over here blocking chicks that I have only given the agreed upon amount because they are hounding me about when they can see me again.[/QUOTE]Yep, it's all a figment of the imagination, LOL.

There is no joy or enthusiasm on either end for giving a tip to show appreciation.

Have you ever put yourself in their place? Something called empathy.

When you see they are good people and do a great job, just maybe rewarding them is something, pardon the word, but, nice, LOL.

On second thought, disregard all that.

Get back to blocking girls, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2159597]I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

Plus it makes me feel good.[/QUOTE]I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.

To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159637]I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.

To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.[/QUOTE]My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2159597]I'm sure your system works.

And you get to save a few bucks, and get to be a Dickhead, LOL.

I'm more with Wolf662, I negotiate x, I pay x, however, I tip for stellar attitude and performance, and it pays in dividends upon my return.

Plus it makes me feel good.

Of course if a girl performs just normally, goes thru the motions, she gets paid the negotiated x amount.

If she then asks for a tip, I explain that a tip is to be earned, and we'll see next time.

Motivation.

I know some guys are cold hearted mongers and wouldn't tip no matter what or how a girl performed, and that's fine if that's their deal.

It's not mine.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.

Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.

So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?

In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US [B]still[/B] tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.

Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't [B]they[/B] have empathy for [B]me[/B] and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.

I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.

So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2159680]I bet a lot (if not everyone) does not know the meaning of tips =To Insure Proper Service / to each their own I've always said.[/QUOTE]This is bull, and if it were true, it would be 'teps. ' You would give extra money, in theory, to [B]en[/B]sure proper or prompt service.

[URL]http://www.word-detective.com/2011/03/tip/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159694]Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.[/QUOTE]I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitación is basically just that nada más. The lady gets little. I have vowed on my next trips to include a 50 k propinita to the lady.

It's just me.

Comment from another about post that says the ladies don't remember. They do. Some anyway. ON my first visit to Fase II I pulled Giselle. Young blond. Fake blond but, cute. Next 2 times I got waylaid by a brunette spinner that did great things for me an my 4th trip, Giselle. From my first trip. Found me and chatted me up all night. I bought her some many drinks that when it came time to pay for the habitación, I didn't have enough for the habitación so, the generous tip afterward wouldn't have happened. Oh well, a fun night tipping dancers and buying and playing with Giselle on the floor.

[QUOTE=MtnBoy49;2159699]I had a bit of a realization after a trip to Fase II. The 200 k for the habitacin is basically just that nada ms. [/QUOTE]So $75 US for a room for an hour in a third world country. OK. So tip her $18 US for an hour of work in country where the minimum wage is around $300 a month, or less than $2 an hour. And in the US a line cook makes $12 an hour for sweating his ass off at a dangerous job. I am just not able to make a lot of sense out of that. But that's just me. We could move the tipping discussion to chit chat if anyone wants to continue it.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2159657]My daddy taught me you always tip for good service.[/QUOTE]And does your daddy know what happens when you go to Japan and tip for good service? You insult the person.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159694]Tipping is not required in Colombia, whether in a restaurant or any other venue. That's a US thing.[/QUOTE]There's a voluntary 10% tip at nice restaurants. It's not mandatory (kind of like the US), but I was told that everyone does it (just like the US). But I noticed that people will take the coin from the tray, leaving only exactly 10%, while people in the US will hardly ever take the remaining change. The waiter will ask you if it is ok to put the tip on the bill.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159695]Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.[/QUOTE]I completely understand tipping a hooker to perform a service she would not rather do. My guess is that most girls don't like to perform CIM, lesbian, rimming for their clients for the standard price. Am I on a power trip? Maybe. LOL!

Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? That has not been my experience in the low or mid level places. Or is that because I'm an obvious foreigner? Haven't picked up in the high end strip joints yet. When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)

I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.

But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2159717]When I ask in Bogota's Santa Fe, or the mid level strip joints, or casas (including New Life), the girls always said no to my BBBJ question (oral sin condom?)

I had to always offer a tip for BBBJ. 50 K has been the normal reply. That was their first offer. Maybe next time I should counter with something lower.

But the good thing about the 50 K tip for BBBJ was that CIM was always included without me asking. And usually, rimming was also included.[/QUOTE]And that is what makes the shit laughable. I was in a Santa Fe casa Sunday night and paid 20 K for FS and didn't even have to mention BBBJ; it was a given. Another punter comes along and pays 250% of what I did for a tip alone to have his johnson polished without a condom. Shit. How much was the payment before that 50 K shit came up? Makes me say hmmm.

In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.

I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. [/QUOTE]Fucking gringos.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.

I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.[/QUOTE]You can leave additional tip to the 10% (which is optional too). I sometimes leave a peso or two especially if its coins because it's a bigger hassle to carry the coins than to leave them. When paying by credit card it makes my life easier as I don't add anything additional other than the 10% servicio fee which is NOT required. You can ask them to take it off if you want but you look like a dick.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2159717]Do the hookers perform BBBJ all the time? [/QUOTE]I meant that they do it all the time with their boyfriends, husbands, etc.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2159732]You can leave additional tip to the 10%[/QUOTE]You can throw 100 k pesos notes out of your apartment window too, if you want. There is no law against it. You can tithe to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. You can make extra voluntary income tax payments. You can give your three year old nephew a Bentley. All of those things are possible.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159733]I meant that they do it all the time with their boyfriends, husbands, etc.[/QUOTE]They don't all do this at home privately (blow jobs that is). I noticed moms are less likely to want to blow you sin condom. This included one mother who would let me bareback her without issues but would only blow me with a condom on. Turns out she doesn't want to kiss her kid with cock breath. I can respect that.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.

[/QUOTE]Worth repeating.

In Colombia at least, restaurants will either ask if they should include service with the bill total or they will include service and advise clients that it is optional. That brings it back to the original point that guys who can't read the bill or the notification won't know they are paying service on top of service.

[QUOTE=Bill;2159747]Worth repeating.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chaman;2159384]Walking street girls neer la Iglesia de Veracruz, disappointing, really there were like 50 women, no one over a 5. Maybe one girl that was inside a house, but I did not enter to have a closer look. Nothing there.
Fase II, also maybe lots of 5, some 6's one or two 7 and one 8, but that girl was very busy with one guy and not available. So had to move on.
The only place I found a nice girl was at gusto, and a couple of nice girls there, that is the only place I would recommend, prices start at 200 USD, but most get down to 400 K or 300 K COP.[/QUOTE]You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.

Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2159728]In most Latin countries the propina is included in the bill, usually 10%. Gringos not knowing Spanish can't read the bill and don't know what a propina is. I've pointed out to guys on their bill the propina is already included; even asked the waiter about it and they agreed. Some of these Gringos leave a tip anyway. Messes these people up, they start getting used to it.

I was in East Germany many years ago, in the old Commie days, and left a tip on the table. While I was paying the bill at the counter some guy walked in off the street and took the money and walked out. I never forgot that.[/QUOTE]When the waiter asks " con servicio" that is asking permission to add the service tip to the bill. So when you get the bill, it is added, you don't need to add another on top.

I wonder if I banged the same chica. I had the same experience. Go figure.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2159742]They don't all do this at home privately (blow jobs that is). I noticed moms are less likely to want to blow you sin condom. This included one mother who would let me bareback her without issues but would only blow me with a condom on. Turns out she doesn't want to kiss her kid with cock breath. I can respect that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159637]I buy that it makes you feel good. As far as it giving you any other advantage is pure assumption. Now if you could point to a person that you were not giving tips to then you started giving a tip later and the service changed for the better or a person that you were giving tips and stopped and the service got worse, then you may have an argument. But when you start out giving tips and next time attribute that to receiving better service doesn't hold water. There could have been one of many reasons that you got better sevice, none of which may have been you giving a tip last time.

To tell you the truth, I go through so many women that I have fucked up and fucked the same person twice by accident because I didn't remember them. If you think a hooker that goes through way more guys is going to remember your extra 20 K then keep hope alive.[/QUOTE]Good rationalization for not tipping.

I don't get scientific about it, I just do what I feel is right.

And obviously you just don't tip, and that's your prerogative.

Not yet, but soon my friend. Soon. Colombia has been getting more attention, and word has finally been getting around that Pablo Escobar is dead. Maybe Medellin and Colombia in general is not as dangerous as it once was. Sometimes I think the only thing keeping the masses away is that they're too lazy to learn Spanish.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2159598]The gringo invasion began many moons ago, the prices have not skyrocketed.

Many good deals to be had, especially if you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]

Yes he does seem like a harsh grader. To each his own. Or maybe it was a really bad night. Fase II has always had a couple of 8's whenever I've gone.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159763]You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.

Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]

I really wish the US would import some of the rest of the world's tipping culture. I personally tip 15% when in the US on the tax-excluded total 9 out of 10 times. I don't not tip for bad service, simply because I don't want a waiter to go home with less just because he / she had a bad day. With exceptional service, I will tip 20%. So I guess in actuality, I only ever tip 5%? I don't know. My big gripe is that I like to know what the cost of my meal is before I eat it. I don't want some sort of vague price of at least X, but feel free to give us more! What if I said, I'm willing to pay up to X, but feel free to charge me less? Why is that not acceptable? Why is your job worthy of a tip and mine not? My job probably effects more people daily than a waiters, but because I'm not as social and you don't have to look me in the eye, I don't deserve a tip? I thought we all work because we get a salary, or paid for our services, not because we can whine our way into extra money. Anyways, hating the US tipping culture. Hope it stays there or better yet dies there.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159695]So, people from the US routinely tip 15-20% in restaurants. Here in Spain, people routinely tip ... (wait for it!) ... nothing in restaurants. Does that mean that Spaniards lack empathy as compared to people from the US? In Argentina, the typical restaurant tip is 7-10%. From this, do we conclude that Argentineans have approximately half as much empathy as people from the US? In Japan, if one attempts to tip in a restaurant, the waiter will run out into the street and hand the money back. Do we conclude that Japanese waiters have an infinite amount of empathy?

In the US, it is necessary to tip waiters because in most jurisdictions, they do not make minimum wage. Of course, in Seattle they make $15 an hour and people from the US [B]still[/B] tip them 15-20%. What kind of sense does that make? In Spain, waiters make a decent salary, so locals do not tip them.

Now, hookers set their own prices in most cases. One would assume that they set their prices at a level that allows them to earn what they feel they need to earn. I worked damn hard for my money, and fucking is not that tough of a job. So shouldn't [B]they[/B] have empathy for [B]me[/B] and give me good service anyway, once we have agreed on a price that we obviously both thought was fair? People from the US have their heads way up their asses on this whole tipping thing, and it is out of control. Australians have it right. Charge a fair price, pay a decent wage, and forget all this nonsense about tipping.

I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.

So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159763]You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.

Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]I ditto that with myself having about the same number of visits.

TTM.

Gringos who go to Colombia and tip working girls have a choice. Either they do what they like with their money and tip the girls or take into the account the cries and pleadings of mongers to not tip so as not to raise the expectations of the chicas and thus cause Colombia to no longer be a cheap sex destination for low budget gringos.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2159763]You might be a little picky or have a unusual grading system.

Saying the VeraCruz girls were 5's I can understand (it takes a few visits at different times to find a hottie there) but to say the Fase II girls were mostly 5's also I have trouble believing, I have been there at least a half dozen times and would rate all their girls I have seen as 7+'s with some 8's and 9's on just about every visit. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]I went on bad day since it was holiday at Colombia, so maybe most girls where not working that day, I know rating is subjective, I look for both, face and body, taking only body in the rate, I would agree, to be 7+, but if I do not like the face I prefer to pass. Personally, liked more the girls at gusto, even though some girls at Fase II may have better body.

BTW, Estrella was not there that night.

Quite apart from the number ratings, to suggest Fase II girls are comparable to who you find on the Veracruz stroll. That dog won't hunt.

[QUOTE=Chaman;2160041]I went on bad day since it was holiday at Colombia, so maybe most girls where not working that day, I know rating is subjective, I look for both, face and body, taking only body in the rate, I would agree, to be 7+, but if I do not like the face I prefer to pass. Personally, liked more the girls at gusto, even though some girls at Fase II may have better body.

BTW, Estrella was not there that night.[/QUOTE]

Ahh, lets make this forms what it is about, the reviews!

I see my reliable. I haven't seen her in a year or so but damn, she still looks like tits on legs. We have a drink first, I admire her new apartment. She is so comforting and relaxing to be around. She has such a sweet tooth and drinks coke cola by the gallon!! We spent some time talking and then she is like "so should we go to the bedroom?" say no more. We begin passionatly kissing like the long lost lovers that we are. With each gasp for breath between kissing we remove a layer of clothing. Finally her enormase tits emerge and I suck on them like the vitamins for life come out. I pick her up and throw her on the bed. She looks at me with the cutest sexiest face. I rub my dick raw right near her clit. She trust me enough to know I won't go bareback with her so she enjoys the stimulation it brings. She flips me over and gives CPR to my dick. I just want to put it in her and finger her dripping wet pussy. She grabs the rubber and puts it on with the speed of an olypmian. She hops on top so I can see her pulsing clit and rides me like a wild stallion. Her tits hit her face so much the bottom of it is red. We don't give a fuck. I return the favor and throw her over in miss with her legs over my head. We kiss so much that we suck the air out of the room. She switches so I can see her juicy ass and takes her shoes off in the process. She yells "quatro bby, quatro" with her ass pointed in the air I can see her beautiful pussy. She has a "simp" or a perfect innie puss. I belive most paisa girls have this and it is a feature that I thank the gene pool for. I can see the sweat dripping off her pussy and I ram it in. She yells "duro duro" I go harder and harder. Finally I am about to burst and she flips back over. Kisses me then rips the rubber off and jerks me to completiom. The sound of her bracelets rattles loud and she jerks it harder and harder. I finish ALL over and cover her DD tits. I get a little in her nose but she laughs. All is well. We go into the bathroom, shower and we pause as we look in the mirror together. We both say "we look good together as a couple" We head back to the bed. She gives me a massage and we talk about life and love. I spend almost 3 hours there and drop about 150 K. It's good to fuck people you actually connect with. She is always fun and in another life we would have been real lovers. I kiss her goodnight and sleep well.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2159695]
I am all for following local customs, and I doubt very much that colombianos are tipping 20 k in a 30 k casa. When I was in Argentina, I never tipped in the privados or in the clubs, and I was still quite popular. My regular chicas who came to my house knew what they were getting, and knew better than to ask for more, or for taxi money. I kept my eye on inflation and gave them regular raises such that the amount of money I gave them maintained its purchasing power.

So, while I respect the point of view expressed by, for example, LV monger (whose handle indicates he may be from the tipping capital of the western hemisphere), I don't buy #s 2 and 4 in particular, and also do not think that what is customary in the US needs to be extrapolated to other countries and cultures whose tipping procedures are much less pervasive or extreme. Another thing I don't understand is tipping a hooker to perform a service she would rather not perform. Now, in the case of BBBJ, it is just a question of them trying to get extra for something they do all the time. But if a chica really doesn't like anal or CIM, and you tip her extra to do it, I think that is a power trip.[/QUOTE]I tip my airport driver. When I go to Lenos in Centro Commercial Santa Fe I always tell them to include the tip in the bill ("con propina inclusive". I think, LOL). The people I have come across have been extremely friendly and will work with you if you struggle a bit with your Spanish (I have often seen the same servers for years and my Spanish has 10 x'd over the years). It's never anything crazy though in terms of gratuity.

I don't however tip for bad service when it comes to chicas. Like if a chica will only do CBJ and will not be persuaded by a little extra pesos, then I am not going to still just give her the damn pesos without her working for it! Don't encourage bad behavior. Even with servers and drivers and such.

I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2160479]I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.[/QUOTE]I do. It's like what, 9,600 p I think, I give him a 10 k note and refuse the change. Not really interested in $.16 change.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2160479]I don't tip the bus driver from the airport. Ja ja.[/QUOTE]Not even for a BBBJ?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2160208]Ahh, lets make this forms what it is about, the reviews!

I see my reliable........... I kiss her goodnight and sleep well.[/QUOTE]Best report all week! Are you willing to share contact info?

1 day. Arrived on March 25 take uber from airport to mansion for 52 mil pesos It was morning time so women (who not speak any english) at mansion reception told me check in is 2 pm, so I leave my bag at reception grab a taxi and go to visit my first casa New life it was around 11 am man show me 5 or 6 girls one of them I like so I take her to room also buy one beer. The service was not bad I cum fast so decided to leave room quick and thought will pay just for 15 minutes but on the room door where is all price they don't have 15 minutes offer anymore so I stay 10 minutes more finish my beer and take whatsapp number from girl go out of room and pay 50 mil pesos. I walk outside and go look around at el centro after some walking I come to other casa fantasias 2 next to hotel premium plaza I make mistake and walk at hotel first on first floor and girl at reception ask (chicas) : the she look at me and with angry face said something but I know just spanish numbers and some words soi don't understand what she mean so I just walk away and found casa on ground floor just next to hotel. I walk inside and ask to show girls man show me just 1 ugly girl and said don't have anymore now come later or wait so I just left. Around 1 pm comeback mansion and reception boy told me my room will be ready after 20 minutes and he show me everything around. Finally later I get to my room and have a nap. Woke up around 4 pm and go have some food at santa fe mall and walk around pablado later comeback mansion sit next to swimming pool and have a chat with some guy he told me last night was like 15 girls at cave. Around 7 pm I check cave myself at masion but it was empty just couple of guys drinking beer so I left and comeback later around 11 pm it was 5 girls inside one of them was cute so I invite her sit next to me and bought her beer and we start some conversation on google translator after I ask her how much she want for long time or short time she said LT 450 mil and ST is 250 it makes me smile. I offer her for LT 300 and 150 mil ST. She agreeded 300 for 6 hours I said better go short time and agreeded 150 mil for 2 hours we finish drink and goback room. The girl have great attitude at bed and was good performer she make me cum 2 times and cum herself 1 time and after that she still was lying on bed and play with herself till I was drinking beer at room. After I take her whatsapp pay her and she left.

Wake up in the morning have free breakfast at mansion and jump to the taxi to el centro pay 12 mil for taxi to museum antioque and start walking around first casa I visited was chicas punto com they show me 8-10 girls I like first few but I forget their names till others girls shaking my hand and telling their names so I take other girl. The room is very average at this casa but girl give good service so. I take her whatsapp. I go out have some beer at local restaurant and walk to next place it was yakusa casa they show me just 4 girls and they was not good looking but I choose one girl and fuck her anyway the room at this place was not nice but girl give good service so I cum somehow. Later at night time I go again at mansion cave it was like 4-5 girls at 10 pm one was really good looking so I invite her sit to me and order her some cocktail for 10 mil pesos. She ask my name and text me on google translator if I would like to go at my room have sex with her. I said ok lets go I will give you 150 mil for 1 hour but she said no! She want 200 mil for 1 hour and didint go down so we not make any deal.

Wake up have a breakfast and later take taxi to el centro casa club de amigas sexy. I really like this casa many good looking girls clean and nice room the girl give good service. Later night time around 12 am I go mansion cave again was like 5 girls inside all was sitting some with guys and one of them was dancing on strip pole she invited me to come dance with her but I just want drink. I saw one girl I like but she was with other guy so I just sit and make conversation with other guy next to me later the guy who was sitting with girl I like left so I grab girl quickly and invite have a drink with me we sit have some talk on google translator she dance for me I ask her price she told me 200 mil but quickly accept when I offer 150 mil for 1-2 hours. We go back room have some beer after she done great blowjob without condom and we have good sex. I pay her and thought she is going out but she show me some club photo on her whatsapp and ask if I want go with her. We jump at taxi and go somewhere it was almost 2 pm but that place was till open it was like club playing music and selling alcohol with 4-5 diffrent rooms all rooms have just local colombians drinking and chatting and have like 6-8 girls inside. We sit and barmen come to us and ask what we want to drink for one corrona and aquila light it was 30 mil pesos (sounds like rip off) we drink and I ask my girl if all this girls sitting around is available and how much? She go speak with one girl and comeback to me and told like 100 mil for 1 hour or 30 minutes I not sure) and said that girl is from venesuela. Some girls at that club was cute. I didint see that place on map list so I will add photo with address of that club on end of my report maybe someone want to check it. So we finish drink beer and left that club on the street I stop taxi and jump inside. When taxi start go the meter start going like crazy in 30 seconds become like 7000 mil I point at meter and told driver stop the girl with me also saw meter this time and said something for him in spanish and he turn off meter we agree the price 10 mil back to mansion. We comeback at Mansion room with girl and I said I want go sleep and you can go also but she said is living far and try to call someone on phone to bring her back but nobody comes. I offer her to sleep here but I tell I don't pay you nothing at morning and she agree. In the morning she left and I check out from mansion to my airbnb apartament. This is a photo with club details.

Visited casa zandalay they show me maybe 10 diffrent girls I choose very tall one with nice body and she give great service. I like this place have cute girls and clean inside.

(Thursday) Wake up in a morning take uber from apartament to santa fe mall have breakfast here and decided to take taxi to turcos paradise casa I arrived ring the bell but nobody open so I walk around little bit and have a feeling most casas will be close because its almost easter. I sit at some el centro bar and text one girl on whatsapp from club de amigassexy and ask are they open today. Later she text me back they are close on Thursday and Friday and opening again on Saturday. I comeback santa fe mall mall and meet other monger have some beer together and he try call some other casas on his phone to ask are they open but nobody answer phones. I come back my apartament and remember one girl want to meet for threesome before but I was busy with other girls and she keep texting me everyday so I text her back this time and agree to meet her and her friend at my apartament for 100 mil each for 1. 5 hour and 50 mil taxis for roundtrip. So 250 mil in total for both. After 2 hours they arrive and both look worst than on photos she send me. Both girls have great bodies but small tits and not cute face. Both look like streets girls I fuck one after other both make blowjob without condom and let me cum 2 times. I pay them and they left.

Good Friday! As all casas is close today I decided to visit some nice places jump at bus to guatape in early morning at terminal de norte. Later comeback and try to text some whatsapp and facebook contacts. First girl who reply want 100 dollars at first but later go down to 200 mil pesos I refuse anyway because she was not so good looking! Second girl want 300 mil for 1 hour model type but its to much for me!! Other girl is doing escort at her place for 100 for 1 hour. I said 100 mil sounds good for me but she text me back 100 dollars not pesos: the all others girls was busy or can meet just other day so no deal again!! I found 1 girl for 150 mil we agree to meet at at 8 pm but suddenly she change her mind and asking 200 mil and plus taxi money so I just give up for today with new girls and I meet same girls second time very rare so I don't get anything tonight. Tomorrow will be casas opening again so no problem.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2160511]I do. It's like what, 9,600 p I think, I give him a 10 k note and refuse the change. Not really interested in $.16 change.[/QUOTE]It was 5.000 pesos last time I was there.

Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160810]Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Do a search in this thread for facebook, somebody posted a bunch of links sometime in the last year.

Your reports are excellent. Thank you very much for taking the time to write them. I hope others take note of how well you are able to get around and enjoy yourself in spite of not knowing much Spanish. You prove it can be done.

I think I might have spoiled the 15 minute rate at New Life by talking about it on here. I'm guessing guys asking about it might have clued in the management that they can impose a 30 minute minimum. It's not a big deal, none of us will go broke over it. I laughed out loud when I read about the angry hotel woman next to Fantasias. I wouldn't be surprised if that happens to her often. Your Zandaly and Amigas Sexxy descriptions were spot on I think. They are good bargains considering the staff and upkeep of the rooms.

Your mansion description reminded me of something someone wrote here a few weeks ago, that it's about the guys you meed there more than the girls. I'm looking forward to reading more of your reports.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2160649]Good Friday! As all casas is close today I decided to visit some nice places jump at bus to guatape in early morning at terminal de norte. Later comeback and try to text some whatsapp and facebook contacts. First girl who reply want 100 dollars at first but later go down to 200 mil pesos I refuse anyway because she was not so good looking! Second girl want 300 mil for 1 hour model type but its to much for me!! Other girl is doing escort at her place for 100 for 1 hour. I said 100 mil sounds good for me but she text me back 100 dollars not pesos: the all others girls was busy or can meet just other day so no deal again!! I found 1 girl for 150 mil we agree to meet at at 8 pm but suddenly she change her mind and asking 200 mil and plus taxi money so I just give up for today with new girls and I meet same girls second time very rare so I don't get anything tonight. Tomorrow will be casas opening again so no problem.[/QUOTE]

Visited casa tantra today taxi driver drop me on wrong street so was looking around little bit till I find. I ring a bell and man let me in sit at reception area. The place look really nice wooden furniture with shishas on it nice sofa and elephant statues on table. I come around 11.30 am morning and they show just 2 girls. I ask can I see more girls he told me accupado or something like that so I understand they are busy. Anyway I choose second girl her name was jesicca girl with read hair and many tattoos on her body she was looking great beautiful face and big ass. I pay 85 mil for 30 minutes +5 mil for beer. Man escort me at room and said wait here. The room was cozy some pictures at wall clean, have audio player. After few minutes girl come and ask me something in spanish of course I not understand. I quickly take of my clothes jump at shower and comeback at room jesicca was already naked just with strings on her. Wow she was looking great big perfect shape tits, big sexy ass, she add so lubricant on my dick and start to wank till it get hard after she put condom and make some blowjob later she jump on me and start to move it was beautifull to look when that big tits bouncing and she moaning!! In 10 minutes I cum she clean me I put on my clothes and finish drink beer. I ask her number but she didint give me. I said bye and left. I defenitely recomend this casa its nice atmosphere inside. Even I saw just 2 girls I like this place. Later today I will try energy or turcos casa if will be open.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160810]Could someone please share some Facebook contacts of women in Medellin? Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can add girl name: melissa mejia on facebook girl with blonde hair and some tattoos she also has many beautiful friends like 20-30 diffrent girls. Ask her to send friends photos for you on whatsapp. They really beautiful girls but also asking 200 mil for 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2160625]she told me 200 mil but quickly accept when I offer 150 mil for 1-2 hours. We go back room have some beer after she done great blowjob without condom and we have good sex.

When taxi start go the meter start going like crazy in 30 seconds become like 7000 mil I point at meter and told driver stop

We comeback at Mansion room with girl and I said I want go sleep and you can go also but she said is living far and try to call someone on phone to bring her back but nobody comes. I offer her to sleep here but I tell I don't pay you nothing at morning and she agree.[/QUOTE]Serious man. You don't speak Spanish but obviously you are a master traveler and a master monger. Starting out with the Uber when everyone else is worrying about how much a taxi would cost. You refuse to be taken advantage of and do not run into pussy that you just have to have. You get BBBJ on GP when most of these guys claim they can not buy their way into one. You make reports including the prices and even considered others by having a flyer to show in case someone else wants to check it out.

I have to laugh about the part where the guy at the mansion told you there were 15 chicks in the cave last night, like it was really something. You were probably thinking mf I saw more chicks than that at 1 casa that I visited. You even get that chick to stay with you for free! How many people on this board would have even suggested such a thing? They are too busy handing out tips left and right when you are on the verge of getting a Mansion chick to pay you for staying in your room. LOL.

The only thing I haven't seen from you yet is a visit to the downtown strip clubs and Fase 2. But I see that you are not finished yet. I am fucking impressed by your reporting brother. I definitely will be going back to read your other 40 reports. I may be able to learn something from you!

Was near ayura metro station so jump on the metro bought single ticket for 2400 0 r 2600 mil not remember already change line at san antonio stop to estadio station. Take uber for 5000 mil to energy casa. (I think is minimum charge uber do at Colombia for short ride) its not big savings if I take just taxi from el pablado to energy it was like 12000 mil but anyway is was nice ride and can look some beautiful girls at metro. I told uber driver to wait me in case it will be closed. I walk to casa and metal gates was shut so it was closed. I come back to uber driver and show him address on my phone with turcos paradise casa address and told him I give him 8000 mil he agree and not use uber app anymore. The traffic at el centro was really bad and a lot of people on streets we reach turcos paradise casa and I told him to wait me again for 1 minute I go out of uber and ring the bell at turcos but nobody open like last time. (seems next time I need be more clever learn few spanish words and call to casas and ask are they open or not) I just back to uber and he bring me to santa fe mall at el pablado for 8000 mil. On the way back I show message on google translator.

With spannish to uber driver: not good day today for look chicas he was laughing and said si Go santa fe mall have some dinner drink couple of beers and comeback my apartament tonight want to try club maracaibo, barra ejecutiva or conejitas bar they are not for from each other so maybe its posible to walk if the place will not look dodgy later at night still have hope its will be open tonight: the seems easter is not best time to be at Colombia. Thanks Mr Enternational and Knowledge for showing interest to my reports!!

I'm in town for a bachelor party at the beginning of May. We've got arrangements in place or coming into place for most of the trip, but I'm getting into town on Wednesday, a day before the rest of the group, and I was thinking of kicking things off solo by visiting Loutron that afternoon. Any advice for a first-time visitor? I've heard good things and want to make the most of the visit:).

I have read the forums as much as I can and need you guys to fill in the blanks. My trip is not too far away.

Best strip clubs: Las isla, fase 2, Luna lunera, and San Diego.

Best casas / massage: Loutron, energy, and new life.

Can you guys add maybe 3 more cases to the list, and what are the cleanest casas in Centro which I understand is a poorer area.

Are there any more strip clubs to see.

I'm staying at torre Poblado hotel. Any casas or strip clubs near the hotel in walking distance. There is something to be said about waking up and just walking outside the hotel to a casa without a cab.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161006]Was near ayura metro station so jump on the metro bought single ticket for 2400 0 r 2600 mil not remember already change line at san antonio stop to estadio station. Take uber for 5000 mil to energy casa. (I think is minimum charge uber do at Colombia for short ride) its not big savings if I take just taxi from el pablado to energy it was like 12000 mil but anyway is was nice ride and can look some beautiful girls at metro. I told uber driver to wait me in case it will be closed. I walk to casa and metal gates was shut so it was closed. I come back to uber driver and show him address on my phone with turcos paradise casa address and told him I give him 8000 mil he agree and not use uber app anymore. The traffic at el centro was really bad and a lot of people on streets we reach turcos paradise casa and I told him to wait me again for 1 minute I go out of uber and ring the bell at turcos but nobody open like last time. (seems next time I need be more clever learn few spanish words and call to casas and ask are they open or not) I just back to uber and he bring me to santa fe mall at el pablado for 8000 mil. On the way back I show message on google translator.

With spannish to uber driver: not good day today for look chicas he was laughing and said si Go santa fe mall have some dinner drink couple of beers and comeback my apartament tonight want to try club maracaibo, barra ejecutiva or conejitas bar they are not for from each other so maybe its posible to walk if the place will not look dodgy later at night still have hope its will be open tonight: the seems easter is not best time to be at Colombia. Thanks Mr Enternational and Knowledge for showing interest to my reports!![/QUOTE]Yes I knew that all the casas would be closed both Thursday and Friday as this was the case last semana santa time from 2017. I was last night at club maracaibo and barra ejecutiva and needed to bust a nut so chose a spinner out of maracaibo, nothing stunning or spectacular in those shit hole rooms that you need to crawl on your knees on to get to from the back of the bar but for 80 mil I unloaded 4 days of man juice, jajajajaja.

TTM.

Last night take uber around 21.00 am from my apartament at pablado to el centro clubs start from barra ejecutiva and walk all the way to taberna victoria.

Barra ejecutiva: this place I like the most 20-25 girls inside maybe just 3-4 girls of my type, was 20-30 costumers inside, big area have bar at ground floor and some sittings space on first floor, big screen tv was showing football match other small tv on diffrent wall show porno. I ordered aquila light it was 10 mil pesos for bottle. Girls was dancing one in the time and taking clothes after their dance they walk too costumers tables and asking tips for dancing at first I was giving 2000 mil each but later I saw some colombians gives just 1000 mil so I start give some girls 1 k others I like more 2 k. I ask waiter how much for 30 minutes cost girls he told me 80 miI. I drink 3 beers here till I saw the girl I like after her dance she come to me ask the tip I give her 2000 mil and ask how much for 30 minutes she said 80 k I said vamonos girl escort me to bartender I gave him 100 mil and I saw girl take from him 50 mil and he give me 20 mil change so seems girls just getting 50 mil for herself for 80 mil charge. The girl I take was black girl with great body and big tits her name was Natalia 23 or 25 years old. The rooms at this place you need to go at man toilet first they have small door inside toilet where they open doors for you and you going inside after climb small staircases up. Rooms is very simple not so clean (reminds like rooms at yakusa casa) but its good to go for short time natalia was great at bed with nice attitude done cover blowjob after ride on me hard till I cum. I take her whatsapp number and left.

Club maracaibo just next doors to barra ejecutiva. Have around 10 girls inside I ask waiter how much the girls for 30 minutes he told me 60 mil and after I ask same other girl she told the same. Girls was not so good looking here maybe just 1-2 I like I drink one aquila light for 7 or 8000 mil tip one girl 2000 mil for dance and left.

Grill nueva avenida I like this place reminds me somehow like country bar with all this plastic red chairs and tables inside for sitting. Have around 10 girls inside. Just one of them was my taste. I sit order one aquila light it was just 5000 mil for bottle. One girl come to sit with me. We start chatting on google translator I order her a drink it cost also just 5000 mil. I ask how much the girls for 30 minutes she told me 50 mil and said lets go now. I text on my phone to her in spanish maybe next time because I have many girls today already and can't get hard anymore she laugh and text me back on my phone lets check and put her hand in my pants and try to wank for me maybe 10 seconds but its doesn't get hard she start to asking me to buy her other drink but I told I am leaving now and will buy her a drink next time. I take her whatsapp number finish my beer and left.

Conejitas bar show.

Walk inside order aquila light for 6 mil. Not many girls inside maybe just 7-8 but a lot of colombians costumers. Look some girls dancing tip one girl for dance ask waiter how much for 30 minutes he told me 70 mil. I drink my beer and left.

Taberna victoria this place is kind a joke. I walk inside saw just 2 girls one girl run to me hug and said something in spanish I didint understand. Many colombians guys everybody was looking at me I just look around and left. I walk to a taxi and go to fase dos.

Fase dos. When I was walking inside I give 50 mil for a guy and I knew entry is 10 mil but he give me just 30 mil back I told him diaz mil he look at me and give me back 10 mil more. This place is look nice I ordered club Colombia beer for 22 mil because they don't have aquila light just heineken and club Colombia. Have many beautiful girls inside but some look not much better than strip club girls at el centro many costumers inside and many girls also. Girls was dancing 2 at same time. Later one girl come to me and ask in english give some tip for dance like 1 dollar so I give her 3000 mil. I ask her how much for s. Ex she told me 190 mil. I decided to go back my apartament around 1 am at night try to book uber to fase dos but 2 drivers who was arriving to fase dos when they was near they both cancel the trip I think maybe they saw many taxi drivers waiting outside and change her mind so I walk outside I saw they selling food near fase dos outside. I ordered some not tasty steak with fries for 14 mil grab taxi and comeback my apartament.

About el centro: at daytime its like a place at big city with many peoples and cars no worries to walk at all if you use your common sense, but at night its becomes dodgy so many people sleeping on street or wondering around its not very comfortable to walk even short distances if you are alone. When I jump at taxi from. Taberna victoria after 200-400 metres I saw maybe 100 or more el centro homeless in one place they was standing like waiting free food from goverment or I don't have idea, but it was look scary I would not imagine myself at this place at night I was mongering at 5 diffrent african countries before but never seen so many homeless drug addicts at one place like at el centro.

Anyway is you use common sense mongering at el centro clubs at nights is not so bad. I enjoy mongering at medellin all girls I have give me good service and have nice attitude no complains. I wake up in a morning pack my stuff and catch uber from mall la frontera this time cost was 65 mil. Sitting at airport waiting my fly to Bogota will stay there for 1 night will try to visit santa fe. By the way one week ago when I arrive to medellin I catch.

Uber from airport to mansion and the driver was speaking good english and was nice guy so I take his number and ask how much he charge for 1 hour he told me 40 mil I don't know is expensive or not by medellin drivers price but if anybody want his number let me know on private message and I will share.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2160891]You can add girl name: melissa mejia on facebook girl with blonde hair and some tattoos she also has many beautiful friends like 20-30 diffrent girls. Ask her to send friends photos for you on whatsapp. They really beautiful girls but also asking 200 mil for 1 hour.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.facebook.com/valentina.vascogomez[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.facebook.com/kelly.rodriguez.142[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/carolinafernandezs00[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/carolynecastrom[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/m.giraldo.37[/URL]

Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.

Login to see profile if say not available.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161278]Last night take uber around 21.00 am from my apartament at pablado to el centro clubs start from barra ejecutiva and walk all the way to taberna victoria.

Barra ejecutiva: this place I like the most 20-25 girls inside maybe just 3-4 girls of my type, was 20-30 costumers inside, big area have bar at ground floor and some sittings space on first floor, big screen tv was showing football match other small tv on diffrent wall show porno. I ordered aquila light it was 10 mil pesos for bottle. Girls was dancing one in the time and taking clothes after their dance they walk too costumers tables and asking tips for dancing at first I was giving 2000 mil each but later I saw some colombians gives just 1000 mil so I start give some girls 1 k others I like more 2 k. I ask waiter how much for 30 minutes cost girls he told me 80 miI. I drink 3 beers here till I saw the girl I like after her dance she come to me ask the tip I give her 2000 mil and ask how much for 30 minutes she said 80 k I said vamonos girl escort me to bartender I gave him 100 mil and I saw girl take from him 50 mil and he give me 20 mil change so seems girls just getting 50 mil for herself for 80 mil charge. The girl I take was black girl with great body and big tits her name was Natalia 23 or 25 years old. The rooms at this place you need to go at man toilet first they have small door inside toilet where they open doors for you and you going inside after climb small staircases up. Rooms is very simple not so clean (reminds like rooms at yakusa casa) but its good to go for short time natalia was great at bed with nice attitude done cover blowjob after ride on me hard till I cum. I take her whatsapp number and left.

Club maracaibo just next doors to barra ejecutiva. Have around 10 girls inside I ask waiter how much the girls for 30 minutes he told me 60 mil and after I ask same other girl she told the same. Girls was not so good looking here maybe just 1-2 I like I drink one aquila light for 7 or 8000 mil tip one girl 2000 mil for dance and left.

Grill nueva avenida I like this place reminds me somehow like country bar with all this plastic red chairs and tables inside for sitting. Have around 10 girls inside. Just one of them was my taste. I sit order one aquila light it was just 5000 mil for bottle. One girl come to sit with me. We start chatting on google translator I order her a drink it cost also just 5000 mil. I ask how much the girls for 30 minutes she told me 50 mil and said lets go now. I text on my phone to her in spanish maybe next time because I have many girls today already and can't get hard anymore she laugh and text me back on my phone lets check and put her hand in my pants and try to wank for me maybe 10 seconds but its doesn't get hard she start to asking me to buy her other drink but I told I am leaving now and will buy her a drink next time. I take her whatsapp number finish my beer and left.

Conejitas bar show.

Walk inside order aquila light for 6 mil. Not many girls inside maybe just 7-8 but a lot of colombians costumers. Look some girls dancing tip one girl for dance ask waiter how much for 30 minutes he told me 70 mil. I drink my beer and left.

Taberna victoria this place is kind a joke. I walk inside saw just 2 girls one girl run to me hug and said something in spanish I didint understand. Many colombians guys everybody was looking at me I just look around and left. I walk to a taxi and go to fase dos.

Fase dos. When I was walking inside I give 50 mil for a guy and I knew entry is 10 mil but he give me just 30 mil back I told him diaz mil he look at me and give me back 10 mil more. This place is look nice I ordered club Colombia beer for 22 mil because they don't have aquila light just heineken and club Colombia. Have many beautiful girls inside but some look not much better than strip club girls at el centro many costumers inside and many girls also. Girls was dancing 2 at same time. Later one girl come to me and ask in english give some tip for dance like 1 dollar so I give her 3000 mil. I ask her how much for s. Ex she told me 190 mil. I decided to go back my apartament around 1 am at night try to book uber to fase dos but 2 drivers who was arriving to fase dos when they was near they both cancel the trip I think maybe they saw many taxi drivers waiting outside and change her mind so I walk outside I saw they selling food near fase dos outside. I ordered some not tasty steak with fries for 14 mil grab taxi and comeback my apartament.

About el centro: at daytime its like a place at big city with many peoples and cars no worries to walk at all if you use your common sense, but at night its becomes dodgy so many people sleeping on street or wondering around its not very comfortable to walk even short distances if you are alone. When I jump at taxi from. Taberna victoria after 200-400 metres I saw maybe 100 or more el centro homeless in one place they was standing like waiting free food from goverment or I don't have idea, but it was look scary I would not imagine myself at this place at night I was mongering at 5 diffrent african countries before but never seen so many homeless drug addicts at one place like at el centro.

Anyway is you use common sense mongering at el centro clubs at nights is not so bad. I enjoy mongering at medellin all girls I have give me good service and have nice attitude no complains. I wake up in a morning pack my stuff and catch uber from mall la frontera this time cost was 65 mil. Sitting at airport waiting my fly to Bogota will stay there for 1 night will try to visit santa fe. By the way one week ago when I arrive to medellin I catch.

Uber from airport to mansion and the driver was speaking good english and was nice guy so I take his number and ask how much he charge for 1 hour he told me 40 mil I don't know is expensive or not by medellin drivers price but if anybody want his number let me know on private message and I will share.[/QUOTE]Your reports are very informative and to the point. Prices that the locals pay.

I, too went to strip bars with travellers I met and over tipped the fatty dancers because I was following their lead.

You didn't let the doorman scam you. It doesn't convert to a lot of money in USD, but its the point. If foreigners laydown, or keep paying above and beyond what is the norm, then it becomes a dual priced system.

I always thought the ISG was for guys to learn from each other and get as much enjoyment and value as possible.

Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs? LOL!

I believe your report is very helpful for mongers like myself who want to enjoy Medellin before prices get out of hand.

Your view of Centro at night is pretty much what I experienced, thanks.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2161293][URL]https://www.facebook.com/valentina.vascogomez[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johannalondono7777[/URL]

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Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.

Login to see profile if say not available.[/QUOTE]Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.

I am planning a trip to Colombia in May or December. For a May trip, I would fly into BOG. Planned itinerary would be BOG-Pereira-Medellin-BOG. All the intra Colombia one way tickets are under $100, so convenience is more important than saving a few pesos. For the Pereira-Medellin & Medellin-BOG legs, which Medellin airport would be the best choice?

[QUOTE=Straber;2161331]Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.[/QUOTE]Notice some of the profile not updated for a couple of years?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2161224]I have read the forums as much as I can and need you guys to fill in the blanks. My trip is not too far away.

Best strip clubs: Las isla, fase 2, Luna lunera, and San Diego.

Best casas / massage: Loutron, energy, and new life.

Can you guys add maybe 3 more cases to the list, and what are the cleanest casas in Centro which I understand is a poorer area.

Are there any more strip clubs to see.

I'm staying at torre Poblado hotel. Any casas or strip clubs near the hotel in walking distance. There is something to be said about waking up and just walking outside the hotel to a casa without a cab.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I think tantra is better and cheaper than energy. Fewer choices but usually good enough.

[QUOTE=Straber;2161331]Are all of these confirmed? They are much better looking than the ones I've been able to find.[/QUOTE]You prob finding the young ones, mansion braces girls.

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[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2161381]You prob finding the young ones, mansion braces girls.

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[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.vargas.54390876[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, some have mentioned they know the mansion at least. I'll add these to the Target list.

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Go thru friends list, they likles, add all girls and message.

Login to see profile if say not available.[/QUOTE]I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2161401]I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.[/QUOTE]I don't need to actually see him. I see that big ass head that he has. And all that fake ass hair and fake tits. What is all this ratio bullshit? It don't take a rocket scientist to see that is a man. In the first picture I was able to see that.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2161401]I think that Carolyn is a man or TS or something. I seen her on IG for years and something didn't sit right. The elbows to arm ratio. Also way back she was friends with lots of TS and now she doesn't follow them and was even tagged at some gay bar. If someone has actually seen her please confirm.[/QUOTE]No never seen her. But her friends not TS, Vanessa Velequez or something.

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[QUOTE=Dccpa;2161345]I am planning a trip to Colombia in May or December. For a May trip, I would fly into BOG. Planned itinerary would be BOG-Pereira-Medellin-BOG. All the intra Colombia one way tickets are under $100, so convenience is more important than saving a few pesos. For the Pereira-Medellin & Medellin-BOG legs, which Medellin airport would be the best choice?[/QUOTE]For Pereira-Medellin, you can fly into Olaya Herrera. It is more convenient because it is in downtown Medellin. Only small commuter aircraft use that airport. You can also use that airport for Medellin-Bogota, but the plane will be a turbo-prop. Jose Maria Cordova (MDE) airport is outside Medellin in Rio Negro. It is about 45 minutes from downtown Medellin. It is an international airport. If you don't mind small aircraft, use Olaya Herrera. If you want larger, jet aircraft, use MDE. Although, there may not be any jets direct from Pereira to Medellin.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2161467]For Pereira-Medellin, you can fly into Olaya Herrera. It is more convenient because it is in downtown Medellin. Only small commuter aircraft use that airport. You can also use that airport for Medellin-Bogota, but the plane will be a turbo-prop. Jose Maria Cordova (MDE) airport is outside Medellin in Rio Negro. It is about 45 minutes from downtown Medellin. It is an international airport. If you don't mind small aircraft, use Olaya Herrera. If you want larger, jet aircraft, use MDE. Although, there may not be any jets direct from Pereira to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I had hoped the local airport was more convenient for intra country travel. Not thrilled with props / puddle jumpers, but the PEI-Medellin flight is less than 1 hour. Medellin-BOG would be for connecting to my USA return flight, so convenience would be mas importante. As someone from the US, it is amazing to me how cheap intra country travel is outside the US. When I looked at intra Romanian flights last year, some of the tickets were around $20-25.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2161380]I think tantra is better and cheaper than energy. Fewer choices but usually good enough.[/QUOTE]I added Tantra to my list. Is that enough to keep me busy for a week.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161278]Last night take uber around 21.00 am from my apartament at pablado to el centro clubs start from barra ejecutiva and walk all the way to taberna victoria.

Barra ejecutiva: this place I like the most 20-25 girls inside maybe just 3-4 girls of my type, was 20-30 costumers inside, big area have bar at ground floor and some sittings space on first floor, big screen tv was showing football match other small tv on diffrent wall show porno. I ordered aquila light it was 10 mil pesos for bottle. Girls was dancing one in the time and taking clothes after their dance they walk too costumers tables and asking tips for dancing at first I was giving 2000 mil each but later I saw some colombians gives just 1000 mil so I start give some girls 1 k others I like more 2 k. I ask waiter how much for 30 minutes cost girls he told me 80 miI. I drink 3 beers here till I saw the girl I like after her dance she come to me ask the tip I give her 2000 mil and ask how much for 30 minutes she said 80 k I said vamonos girl escort me to bartender I gave him 100 mil and I saw girl take from him 50 mil and he give me 20 mil change so seems girls just getting 50 mil for herself for 80 mil charge. The girl I take was black girl with great body and big tits her name was Natalia 23 or 25 years old..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel, I think I need to pay a visit to Barra Ejecutiva, I've been craving a little chocolate. I usually stick around La Mayorista, I love all the semipros I have found there. Is a hit and miss, but if you are patient enough there are diamonds in the rough to be found.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2161405]I don't need to actually see him. I see that big ass head that he has. And all that fake ass hair and fake tits. What is all this ratio bullshit? It don't take a rocket scientist to see that is a man. In the first picture I was able to see that.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

I've called it out on his IG and get blocked and deleted, there have been some ohters with the same.

Whats funny is how many commnets are like "oh hermosa, wow mami your sexy" and they don't realize its a dude!! Wtf.

This one needs to get called out for frontin.

For Loutron, since it's up the hill and has security, is it okay just to get an Uber or taxi up there? Or do you have to call ahead?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2161405]I don't need to actually see him. I see that big ass head that he has. And all that fake ass hair and fake tits. What is all this ratio bullshit? It don't take a rocket scientist to see that is a man. In the first picture I was able to see that.[/QUOTE]Was told by a chica on how to spot a TS. Look for the Adams's apple (una manzana). If she has one then she's a TS unless she has undergone a surgery to remove it.

Have one.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2161405]What is all this ratio bullshit? [/QUOTE]That's not bullshit. Men and women have different proportions that can differentiate them from a distance, further away than you can discern an Adam's Apple. Men typically have broader shoulders than their thighs, and vice versa with women. You can discern this by merely seeing their silhouette, and in low light. Very useful if you are walking down Beach Road and you are perusing what's in the shadows.

[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2161938]Was told by a chica on how to spot a TS. Look for the Adams's apple (una manzana). If she has one then she's a TS unless she has undergone a surgery to remove it.
Have one.[/QUOTE]Do you really need the advice of a chica about "how to recognize TVs"? Gosh.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2162100]Do you really need the advice of a chica about "how to recognize TVs"? Gosh. ![/QUOTE]LOL. Sometimes I wonder where some people are from. Can't recognize a man that is wearing makeup and fake hair. Even if somehow you are fooled by a picture there is no way you should be fooled in person. A man is not built like nor moves nothing like a woman. Male and female mannerisms and walks are different and can not be disguised.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2160767]It was 5.000 pesos last time I was there.[/QUOTE]Was there on 12/26 & left on 12/31 & paid 9600 COP both times.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2162186]Was there on 12/26 & left on 12/31 & paid 9600 COP both times.[/QUOTE]Right. I haven't been there in several years. Coulda been more but it was a round number for sure.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2162010]That's not bullshit. Men and women have different proportions that can differentiate them from a distance, further away than you can discern an Adam's Apple. Men typically have broader shoulders than their thighs, and vice versa with women. You can discern this by merely seeing their silhouette, and in low light. Very useful if you are walking down Beach Road and you are perusing what's in the shadows.[/QUOTE]I can tell you that I was in Pattaya a few years ago and went to a drag show there. They were all amazing and I had front row seats. It was pretty hard to tell and I knew they were men from the outset.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2162178]LOL. Sometimes I wonder where some people are from. Can't recognize a man that is wearing makeup and fake hair. Even if somehow you are fooled by a picture there is no way you should be fooled in person. A man is not built like nor moves nothing like a woman. Male and female mannerisms and walks are different and can not be disguised.[/QUOTE]When in doubt a simple pulling down of the pants for a visual inspection should be initiated to make a confirmed determination of gender.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2162010]That's not bullshit. Men and women have different proportions that can differentiate them from a distance, further away than you can discern an Adam's Apple. Men typically have broader shoulders than their thighs, and vice versa with women. You can discern this by merely seeing their silhouette, and in low light. Very useful if you are walking down Beach Road and you are perusing what's in the shadows.[/QUOTE]If Michelle Obama was walking down Beach Road, would you think that was a woman?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2162606]If Michelle Obama was walking down Beach Road, would you think that was a woman?[/QUOTE]That's pretty funny! I have seen some pictures of her standing on the steps of the White House with a suspicious looking bulge coming from her dress! Ha ha, she certainly does not fit the shoulder to hip ratio that was discussed earlier. Very nasty!

EL Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2162282]I can tell you that I was in Pattaya a few years ago and went to a drag show there. They were all amazing and I had front row seats. It was pretty hard to tell and I knew they were men from the outset.[/QUOTE]They are not amazing. Those dudes in Tiffany Show are huge, as are most Thai ladyboys. They are generally larger than the average straight Thai male. What are you guys looking at to make you think it is a woman? Just the makeup maybe? Think to yourself, if this person had on no makeup would it still look like a woman. Ain't a one of those mfs running around without HEAVY makeup that you would still think to be a woman. Stop being fooled by that shit.

Someone kinda posted this question in the hotels and apartments section and got no response so I'm going to try here. Several apartments at the Blux now have warnings about visitors, guests, pre-pagos or other euphemisms, these apartments didn't used to have those 'house rules'. I heard there was a raid at the Blux some time ago and now it isn't the guest friendly place it used to be. A quick look at airbnb sees many apartments now have these conditions. Is anyone aware of a change of policy, would you stay at the Blux?

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2162739]Someone kinda posted this question in the hotels and apartments section and got no response so I'm going to try here. Several apartments at the Blux now have warnings about visitors, guests, pre-pagos or other euphemisms, these apartments didn't used to have those 'house rules'. I heard there was a raid at the Blux some time ago and now it isn't the guest friendly place it used to be. A quick look at airbnb sees many apartments now have these conditions. Is anyone aware of a change of policy, would you stay at the Blux?[/QUOTE]It's been a few years since I stayed at the Blux and I had no problems with them letting chicas in the building.

Of course the owners of each apartment can set rules on who and when non guests can enter. And that would be my guess as to what is going on.

But it is also possible that owners voted on a new policy about non residents in the building and the administration is enforcing it.

If I was interested in a particular apartment at the blux I would just ask the owner what his policy is on guests in the apartment.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2162606]If Michelle Obama was walking down Beach Road, would you think that was a woman?[/QUOTE]Yes because I am black and she is a beautiful smart women despite what you ignorant racists thinks. The one thing I told myself I will do in 2018 is I am checking all racists all day everyday. Tough keyboard talkers that can never be in the barrios or pop in real clubs.

[QUOTE=Revere;2163100]Yes because I am black and she is a beautiful smart women despite what you ignorant racists thinks. The one thing I told myself I will do in 2018 is I am checking all racists all day everyday. Tough keyboard talkers that can never be in the barrios or pop in real clubs.[/QUOTE]There are PLENTY of hot black women in this world, Michelle isn't one of them. I think she is somewhat mannish. Just because someone doesn't think every black woman in the world is hot doesn't make them a racist.

I also don't think Hillary Clinton is hot. Does that make me racist against white people?

Just for reference, attached here is an example of a sexy black girl.

[QUOTE=Revere;2163100]Yes because I am black and she is a beautiful smart women despite what you ignorant racists thinks. The one thing I told myself I will do in 2018 is I am checking all racists all day everyday. Tough keyboard talkers that can never be in the barrios or pop in real clubs.[/QUOTE]I am white and would bang her in an instant. I find all races of women beautiful. When I hear goofy dudes saying that they do not find this race or that race of women beautiful I always get the impression that they're lacking in testosterone.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2162739]Someone kinda posted this question in the hotels and apartments section and got no response so I'm going to try here. Several apartments at the Blux now have warnings about visitors, guests, pre-pagos or other euphemisms, these apartments didn't used to have those 'house rules'. I heard there was a raid at the Blux some time ago and now it isn't the guest friendly place it used to be. A quick look at airbnb sees many apartments now have these conditions. Is anyone aware of a change of policy, would you stay at the Blux?[/QUOTE]This is a disturbing post as I totally enjoy staying at the Blux. But I also suspect it is only a portion of the rental units. Large or small portion, who knows. Whatever the case, it appears to be a trend that may force a change in the MDE scene. I for one enjoy the buildings with security for a couple of reasons. One, it keeps visitors from being a front door surprise. Secondly, it allows me to feel more secure / isolated from the sometimes dangerous world that exists on the streets of Medellin. Before we know it, these legal short-term apartment rentals will be extinct. So either I will have to be satisfied more with the casas / clubs or start looking to spend more time in SE Asia or the less desirable / secure areas of MDE.

If anyone has any real solid intel, please post or send me a PM. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2162636]They are not amazing. Those dudes in Tiffany Show are huge, as are most Thai ladyboys. They are generally larger than the average straight Thai male. What are you guys looking at to make you think it is a woman? Just the makeup maybe? Think to yourself, if this person had on no makeup would it still look like a woman. Ain't a one of those mfs running around without HEAVY makeup that you would still think to be a woman. Stop being fooled by that shit.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up for the Medellin crowd, not all the MED trannies are big girls, the one who fooled me on my 1st trip behind Vera Cruz was a 5'2" 90 lb spinner, so beware!

She looks better than the most of first ladies, including the incumbent.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2162606]If Michelle Obama was walking down Beach Road, would you think that was a woman?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2163154]She looks better than the most of first ladies, including the incumbent.[/QUOTE]TEHO but Your mileage obviously varies!

I would fuck Michelle Obama. I like a more muscular looking woman, as opposed to a Barbie doll. She looks like she swims or plays tennis. Plus, black don't crack so she still looks good to me at 54. Most 54 year old white women look like they got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.

Yeah, Melania Trump is hotter but I bet she just lies there.

Hillary Clinton, I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes than even see her naked.

Laura Bush, I always kind of wanted to fuck her without using any lube and then pull out and come all over her face.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2163124]This is a disturbing post as I totally enjoy staying at the Blux. But I also suspect it is only a portion of the rental units. Large or small portion, who knows. Whatever the case, it appears to be a trend that may force a change in the MDE scene. I for one enjoy the buildings with security for a couple of reasons. One, it keeps visitors from being a front door surprise. Secondly, it allows me to feel more secure / isolated from the sometimes dangerous world that exists on the streets of Medellin. Before we know it, these legal short-term apartment rentals will be extinct. So either I will have to be satisfied more with the casas / clubs or start looking to spend more time in SE Asia or the less desirable / secure areas of MDE.

If anyone has any real solid intel, please post or send me a PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There has been a change in a majority of the short term rental market (air bnb) in Med. Bascially what happened at blux was too many parties and cops being called and domestic violence. The people that live in the building had a meeting and now it became strict.

I think its a game of cat and mouse.

Personally I think Blux is like tooo gringo and you get a girl that has been there 100 x before and is almost like a robot going thru the motions. I get the safety factor but places like laurles and belen even offer a more normal setting. Yes it is still CO but you know how it goes.

I think the crack down will contiune until some people get paid off. It's ok really, let those animals that cause a ruckas do it at hotels and not in nice apartments living with other locals.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2163131]Just a heads up for the Medellin crowd, not all the MED trannies are big girls, the one who fooled me on my 1st trip behind Vera Cruz was a 5'2" 90 lb spinner, so beware![/QUOTE]Wolf now I don't feel so bad.

I think I was fooled as well my first trip to el centro, it was petite but wouldn't take the top or bottoms off, got CBJ, and thought after walking out. I think that wasn't a female.

That is why I am Leary of seeing street walkers in el centro.

I am having awesome time using SA and getting low mileage very pretty girls.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2163189]I would fuck Michelle Obama. I like a more muscular looking woman, as opposed to a Barbie doll. She looks like she swims or plays tennis. Plus, black don't crack so she still looks good to me at 54. Most 54 year old white women look like they got dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag.

Yeah, Melania Trump is hotter but I bet she just lies there.

Hillary Clinton, I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes than even see her naked.

Laura Bush, I always kind of wanted to fuck her without using any lube and then pull out and come all over her face.[/QUOTE]Barbara Bush doesn't even look human.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2163241]Wolf now I don't feel so bad.

I think I was fooled as well my first trip to el centro, it was petite but wouldn't take the top or bottoms off, got CBJ, and thought after walking out. I think that wasn't a female.

That is why I am Leary of seeing street walkers in el centro.

I am having awesome time using SA and getting low mileage very pretty girls.[/QUOTE]All due respect but I guess I am a little confused. Whatever you went to the room with basically would not take off her clothes? Sounds very strange unless the services you requested were only a blow job.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2163253]Barbara Bush doesn't even look human.[/QUOTE]Dude, that woman is 92 years old. Kudos to her for living that long.

Here's a picture of both Barbara Bush and Michelle Obama when they were young.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2163154]She looks better than the most of first ladies, including the incumbent.[/QUOTE]Now I'm sure I would never listen to your advice regarding women. You have awful taste. Melania is hot and Mike Obama looks like James Brown.

Michelle Obama is pretty in the face but has the body of a man. Those are the facts. Not attracted at all. The real question is if I had a gun to my head who's pussy would I eat Michelle's or Hillary's. I pray I never have to make that decision.

I'll be visiting Medellin soon and I can't decide if I should stay at Blux or the Mansion. I've been to the Mansion before so I have a few chicas contacts. My question is the safety. How safe is it at Blux Apartments and can I come in and out with different girls? Also, how far is Blux from the Mansion? I like the area the Mansion's in, being able to walk to the Mall with access to ATM's and restaurants. BTW, my Spanish is no bueno.

I avoided el centro my last trip to Medellin, I stayed at the Mansion and only messed with the chicas there. I'll be returning soon and I plan to spend my days with chicas from the casas and nights with the Mansion chicas. I could use some advice on casas in el centro. I plan to take a taxi to El Centro. I hear it's dangerous at night so I plan to go during the day. I will be traveling alone and I don't speak Spanish. I have a few questions.

1. Do I take cab directly to the casa or just get out in the Centro area and walk to the different casas if it's safe to do so?

2. Is it safe to take a streetwalker to a short time room?

3. Is it safe to spend a few hours in a casa for multiple sessions?

4. When leaving casa's do you call taxi or are there taxis parked out waiting?

5. What time is the latest I can safely stay in the Centro.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2163124]This is a disturbing post as I totally enjoy staying at the Blux. But I also suspect it is only a portion of the rental units. Large or small portion, who knows. Whatever the case, it appears to be a trend that may force a change in the MDE scene. I for one enjoy the buildings with security for a couple of reasons. One, it keeps visitors from being a front door surprise. Secondly, it allows me to feel more secure / isolated from the sometimes dangerous world that exists on the streets of Medellin. Before we know it, these legal short-term apartment rentals will be extinct. So either I will have to be satisfied more with the casas / clubs or start looking to spend more time in SE Asia or the less desirable / secure areas of MDE.

If anyone has any real solid intel, please post or send me a PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've recently been in contact with Blux inquiring about their apartments. Their management stated guest are welcome but must sign in. I'm still considering staying at Blux my next trip. Have you stayed at Blux before? If so, I take it you consider the area safe. Other than what's been recently reported did you have any issues bringing chicas in?

Please keep this thread for information about the chicas in Medellin.

Not Bullshit.

Put your B. S. Here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2163520] The real question is if I had a gun to my head who's pussy would I eat Michelle's or Hillary's. I pray I never have to make that decision.[/QUOTE]At least Donald is not an option on your table?

Let me start by saying I am no expert, and still many many trips behind lots of guys.

I see these questions a lot and what I hope newbies realize is it varies greatly depending on you.

1) I am sure there are some guys that get in a cab and show there map directly to the cabbie and take it to the front door. I personally like to be a little more discreet. I usually grab a taxi and tell them "el centro", "San Juan y Oriental". Then for the day I use the bright colored yellow bricks that divide the traffic has my reference point for the day. After a day or 2 you will figure out how to find a handful of casas from this area. You can also catch a taxi or bus from this area easy.

2) I honestly don't know where else you would take a street walker. Short term hotels are all over the place. Yes it is safe, is it safe for you that is the question. If you have never been to centro, don't speak Spanish, and have all these safety questions I don't see you making this happen this trip.

3) I have never felt any danger in a casa, that would be bad for business. Some casas have a more chill environment than others. I personally couldn't imagine hanging out in new life after my session for another but there are other casas that have little bars or TVs where it is a more laid back atmosphere. But there are little shops and cafes all over the place. You can not walk a block without passing a Pan shop or some place to grab a bit and recover.

4) Most of these casas are on little side roads, I have never seen taxis waiting outside. Again, respect the locals and keep it discreet as possible. But short walk to a main road will find you plenty of taxis.

5) Centro safety, I personally have never felt in danger in centro and I don't speak Spanish and I am not a tough guy. I do walk with a purpose, walk like I know where I am going and I don't pull my cell out in public. If I need to use my phone I step into a farmicia or cafe or something like that. I basically don't do anything to draw extra attention to myself and act like I have a business being there. Now there probably are some clueless guys that should never be there. Is that you? I do not know. I will say as you notice the shops and vendors closing up shop you shouldn't still be there unless you know where you are going or plan on using a taxi. At this hour your options are pretty much only strip clubs or sw anyway.

Good luck, have fun, be safe. Post a report.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2163559]I avoided el centro my last trip to Medellin, I stayed at the Mansion and only messed with the chicas there. I'll be returning soon and I plan to spend my days with chicas from the casas and nights with the Mansion chicas. I could use some advice on casas in el centro. I plan to take a taxi to El Centro. I hear it's dangerous at night so I plan to go during the day. I will be traveling alone and I don't speak Spanish. I have a few questions.

1. Do I take cab directly to the casa or just get out in the Centro area and walk to the different casas if it's safe to do so?

2. Is it safe to take a streetwalker to a short time room?

3. Is it safe to spend a few hours in a casa for multiple sessions?

4. When leaving casa's do you call taxi or are there taxis parked out waiting?

5. What time is the latest I can safely stay in the Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2163679]Let me start by saying I am no expert, and still many many trips behind lots of guys.

I see these questions a lot and what I hope newbies realize is it varies greatly depending on you.

1) I am sure there are some guys that get in a cab and show there map directly to the cabbie and take it to the front door. I personally like to be a little more discreet. I usually grab a taxi and tell them "el centro", "San Juan y Oriental". Then for the day I use the bright colored yellow bricks that divide the traffic has my reference point for the day. After a day or 2 you will figure out how to find a handful of casas from this area. You can also catch a taxi or bus from this area easy.

2) I honestly don't know where else you would take a street walker. Short term hotels are all over the place. Yes it is safe, is it safe for you that is the question. If you have never been to centro, don't speak Spanish, and have all these safety questions I don't see you making this happen this trip.[/QUOTE]I'm from Brooklyn NY. So, I'm used to tough streets. However, I've learned street smarts and I apply caution when traveling. Which Is why I'm asking these questions. I appreciate you answering my questions it will help me a lot. I will visit the casas. Look out for my report.

Perfect advice on all counts. The only thing I disagree with is the suggestion you might be inexperienced, it really doesn't seem like it. From Centro it's easy to find taxis on Oriental or at Plaza Botero.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2163679]Let me start by saying I am no expert, and still many many trips behind lots of guys.

I see these questions a lot and what I hope newbies realize is it varies greatly depending on you.

1) I am sure there are some guys that get in a cab and show there map directly to the cabbie and take it to the front door. I personally like to be a little more discreet. I usually grab a taxi and tell them "el centro", "San Juan y Oriental". Then for the day I use the bright colored yellow bricks that divide the traffic has my reference point for the day. After a day or 2 you will figure out how to find a handful of casas from this area. You can also catch a taxi or bus from this area easy.

2) I honestly don't know where else you would take a street walker. Short term hotels are all over the place. Yes it is safe, is it safe for you that is the question. If you have never been to centro, don't speak Spanish, and have all these safety questions I don't see you making this happen this trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2163721]I'm from Brooklyn NY. So, I'm used to tough streets. However, I've learned street smarts and I apply caution when traveling. Which Is why I'm asking these questions. I appreciate you answering my questions it will help me a lot. I will visit the casas. Look out for my report.[/QUOTE]If you get bored at the mansion at night, the strip clubs are just Casa's with more girls you can sit and drink with and watch on stage. They all have rooms.

From high to low:

Bar La Isla.

Las Palmas Medellin-034 xxxx769.

Fase II.

034 xxxx878.

Cra. 44 #30-27.

[URL]http://www.clubfasedos.com/[/URL]

Luna Lunera.

574 xxxx700.

Calle 33 63 b-215.

[URL]http://lunalunera.com.co/[/URL]

Grill San Diego.

(57-4) xxx978.

Calle 37 No. 45-15.

Barra Ejecutiva (Centro).

034 xxxx451.

Calle 53 #48-20.

Conejitas (Centro).

CL. 53 #51-41.

57 311 7289724.

Maracaibo (next door to Barra Ejectiva).

034 xxxx946.

Calle 53 #49-30.

There are other ones but pretty small.

1. Do I take cab directly to the casa or just get out in the Centro area and walk to the different casas if it's safe to do so?

I would give the cabbie the address and cab right to the 1st one. If the neighborhood looks OK walk to the next one if it is close but cabs are cheap. During the day those areas are generally ok.

2. Is it safe to take a streetwalker to a short time room?

Yes, have done so on multiple occasions. You will be safer off the street with her then wandering around on the street.

3. Is it safe to spend a few hours in a casa for multiple sessions?

Most Casa's have no where to hang out but a few do have a bar or couch to hang out and have a beer like Yakusa and I think Zandaly.

4. When leaving casa's do you call taxi or are there taxis parked out waiting?

Might have to walk a block or 2 to a major road to get a cab, probably faster then having them call you one.

5. What time is the latest I can safely stay in the Centro.

After sundown it starts to get sketchier. You can stay in the strip clubs till they close if you want and cab between them although Barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo are about 50 ft apart and Conejitas is about 2 & 1/2 blocks from those 2 but the block around Conejitas get scarier the later it gets.

Another late night option where you can hang out for multiple sessions and where they will call taxis for you, and where most taxis won't need an address or directions: Luna Lunera.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2164098]1. Do I take cab directly to the casa or just get out in the Centro area and walk to the different casas if it's safe to do so?

I would give the cabbie the address and cab right to the 1st one. If the neighborhood looks OK walk to the next one if it is close but cabs are cheap. During the day those areas are generally ok.

2. Is it safe to take a streetwalker to a short time room?

Yes, have done so on multiple occasions. You will be safer off the street with her then wandering around on the street.

3. Is it safe to spend a few hours in a casa for multiple sessions?

Most Casa's have no where to hang out but a few do have a bar or couch to hang out and have a beer like Yakusa and I think Zandaly..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2162178]LOL. Sometimes I wonder where some people are from. Can't recognize a man that is wearing makeup and fake hair. Even if somehow you are fooled by a picture there is no way you should be fooled in person. A man is not built like nor moves nothing like a woman. Male and female mannerisms and walks are different and can not be disguised.[/QUOTE]Not so much. Anyone can learn to have mannerisms of the opposite gender, it takes lots of practice, but it's totally doable. And with how good plastic surgery is now, with Asians, it's not too difficult to make a man look like a woman it pretty much every way. The biggest giveaway for me is that the ladyboys would be too perfect. And most full time trans people have the hair and everything else. I've not seen a post op trans pussy, so I have no idea how close to reality those are but other than a cock, a well done ladyboy is almost impossible to tell from a woman.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2164098]1. Do I take cab directly to the casa or just get out in the Centro area and walk to the different casas if it's safe to do so?

I would give the cabbie the address and cab right to the 1st one. If the neighborhood looks OK walk to the next one if it is close but cabs are cheap. During the day those areas are generally ok.

2. Is it safe to take a streetwalker to a short time room?

Yes, have done so on multiple occasions. You will be safer off the street with her then wandering around on the street.

3. Is it safe to spend a few hours in a casa for multiple sessions?.[/QUOTE]I think I'm going to feel it out during the day and decide if I'm comfortable enough to stick around after sundown.

Thanks for the feedback.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2163190]There has been a change in a majority of the short term rental market (air bnb) in Med. Bascially what happened at blux was too many parties and cops being called and domestic violence. The people that live in the building had a meeting and now it became strict.

I think its a game of cat and mouse.

Personally I think Blux is like tooo gringo and you get a girl that has been there 100 x before and is almost like a robot going thru the motions. I get the safety factor but places like laurles and belen even offer a more normal setting. Yes it is still CO but you know how it goes.

I think the crack down will contiune until some people get paid off. It's ok really, let those animals that cause a ruckas do it at hotels and not in nice apartments living with other locals.[/QUOTE]I have been looking more toward Envigado and Laureles, but have stayed with what I like because my stays have been limited to 7-10 days, and the Blux fit those needs perfectly. I also like Belen, but have not investigated it much. So far the place I see myself spending 1+ months in is La Floresta. Reasonably safe neighborhood with excellent access to the Metro. I just do not know if I can find an apartment without a fiador. Since I have no intentions of living there year-around, I need a furnished place that is turn-key with all the utilities, cable tv and internet. Unfortunately, most of these are located in the higher strata areas with those type of neighbors that do not appreciate our lifestyle. I am not so sure that it is the partying that gets the neighbors angry, other than weeknights, because Colombians know how to party hard. I think it is more about the rotating door of girls in and out of the building all hours of the day and night that they do not appreciate. From my understanding, a large majority of the Blux units are owned by foreigners, who purchased as rental properties. This ownership percentage does not allow the building to craft all encompassing rules that deny short-term guests in all units. But I have noticed more and more Blux units renting with terms that do not cater to our lifestyle just like bars and resturantes en Lleras have adopted. Perhaps these are the ones where the owners have asked security to ensure those rules are followed?

Now that I am retired, I am hopeful to be able to spend a month or more each time I visit, so that will require me to pursue lower cost alternatives. I am less interested in new girls, generally sticking with a tried and true stable of amigas that never cease to show me a good time. Plus at my age, a 3 per day chica diet is no longer affordable, nor do I have the energy for more than a couple per week. LOL.

I am going to Medellin in March for a few days.

Where do you guys stay? Where do you book the hotel?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2164245]I have been looking more toward Envigado and Laureles, but have stayed with what I like because my stays have been limited to 7-10 days, and the Blux fit those needs perfectly. I also like Belen, but have not investigated it much. So far the place I see myself spending 1+ months in is La Floresta. Reasonably safe neighborhood with excellent access to the Metro. I just do not know if I can find an apartment without a fiador. Since I have no intentions of living there year-around, I need a furnished place that is turn-key with all the utilities, cable tv and internet. Unfortunately, most of these are located in the higher strata areas with those type of neighbors that do not appreciate our lifestyle. I am not so sure that it is the partying that gets the neighbors angry, other than weeknights, because Colombians know how to party hard. I think it is more about the rotating door of girls in and out of the building all hours of the day and night that they do not appreciate. From my understanding, a large majority of the Blux units are owned by foreigners, who purchased as rental properties. This ownership percentage does not allow the building to craft all encompassing rules that deny short-term guests in all units. But I have noticed more and more Blux units renting with terms that do not cater to our lifestyle just like bars and resturantes en Lleras have adopted..[/QUOTE]You won't need a fiador for a 1 month furnished rental. A fiador is only needed for a long term lease and typically only for unfurnished apartments.

If you get off the metro at Estadio and walk south on 70 there are a couple of agencies that rent furnished apartments. One on each side, just a few blocks south of the station. Don't know what they have to offer.

The problems are as much to do with the short term rentals as with the prepagos, especially the places that cater to gringos. Too many of them lack volume control or a filter or any respect for the people around them. They're in Medellin to party and they don't give a damn what anyone else thinks about them.

If all of them learned basic social behavior, there wouldn't be problems. Greet the neighbors, smile exchange a few kind words and they'll stop cringing every time they see a gringo.

I am staying in laurels this week. Does anyone know any good casas? Thanks. If anyone is around for drinks please pm me.

Does anyone know if this place is girl friendly arrive next week and do not want to pay extra room charges.

I arrived in Medellin on April 2 and left April 7th. I was just here on March 5th and decided to purchase an apartment here, so I did. I bought an apartment in Barrio Boyaca and I decided to return to Medellin every 4 weeks for 5 days. I found a girlfriend over there so everything works out fine. I send her a nice stipend biweekly and the bills are paid and the Apartment is well maintained. On top of that, I told her what my hobby is so, instead of her crying her eyes out, she goes to Centro with me every day and we rent a room to pick up chics. I allow my girl to pic the chic who she likes and we take them back to the rooms and we do our thing. This way family doesn't have any idea of what me and the girlfriend does while we are away from the house. I filled the cabinets full of food to last at least 2 weeks and off me and the girlfriend went to Centro. We had plenty of contacts from my first trip so all of the girls we saw the first time, if we liked them, we called them again to really bang there brains out. Day one, I picked up a morena from near Vera cruz and made her an offer and took her back to my room in centro and my girl stands in the room and gets pics of every girl that I bang. It's simple, like I told me girl, you can work in Medellin or work for me, assisting me with banging these chics, then you get to be with me and you get to see everything that I do and you don't have to worry. I just a very care free dude. If my girl did not help me, then I would have hired another girl from my first trip. I banged three girls everyday on a 500 mil COP budget. I wanted to get girls who were nice looking and photogenic for the Camera. At 500 mil COP, I easily obtained my goal. Day Two was like Day one, just much more smoother and comfortable with my girl as we rode a bus out to Barbosa to inquire about a Finca that me and my girl could get away from the family and just goof off and bang other chics. Well let me tell you, I found a finca out in Barbosa for 500 mil for 4 days, so me and my girl booked the finca and it seemed like it was 1000 ft in the damn sky, I nearly collapsed trying to walk up the steep embankment but I made it. So as we rode from bus to bus to retrieve food and items for the finca, we would meet girls and my girl would proposition them and they would say yay or nay, we found 3 chicas without problem and they came back to the finca and I banged them and my girl took pics, easy peasy. On Day 3, my girl told me that since I had bought the apartment and allowed her and her family to live there she had a special gift for me and only me and that I was to tell no one. So she calls over one of her cousins to come over to the finca and she allowed me to bang her and her cousin all damn day, so I didn't have to go out and look for any girls it was just me my girl and her cousin. The finca has a pool and like 16 beds, it looks like a lodge that you would stay at if you were going camping but it is secluded and really off hidden, my girl's mother suggested it so that me and my girl could have privacy. On day 4, my girl wakes up and cooks me breakfast. Fresh Jugo Maracuya, arepas, eggs, fresh salmon and a salad made with lemon vinegrette dressing, I mean it was awesome. My girl was like look, why not look though my phone, look at some my cousins and we can go seem them in person and visit my grandmother and we can bring back the ones that you like, my cousins all could use the extra cash. So we hoped on a bus, to the metro train, to the metro cable and up to granny's house to visit and hand pic cousins that I liked. My Lord does it get any better than this. My girl was like, I would rather kiss my cousins than some random working girl in the streets, plus my cousins will thank me for the extra cash. I'm like hell yeah, I'm with the program. So we picked up three of her cousins and headed back to the finca, we swam, grilled and had sex all damn evening and night. On day 5 I decided to relax a little and spend as much time with my girl as possible as well as her immediate family her mom dad brother and little sister. So I stayed at my apartment with the family and had family time like any old family guy would do. I love Colombia, Yes I do, my girl has no kids, and allows me to do as I please as long as I pay the bills. Here's my resolve to paying the bills, I paid so much money for child support when I was paying child support, that I can actually maintain a complete apartment buy groceries and pay someone to assist with keeping the property cleaned an maintained for less than what the child support people were draining me for. I actually told my girl she doesn't have to work and we worked out a plan to pay for her college and keep her in school and off a job as long as we are in a serious relationship. I love this board and Wolf for encouraging me to visit medellin. I have already purchased my ticket for return at the end of the month. Who ever knew a little currency could do so much. Pollo Negro is out.

Here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists&p=2148124&viewfull=1#post2148124.[/URL]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2164509]I am staying in laurels this week. Does anyone know any good casas? Thanks. If anyone is around for drinks please pm me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2164566] I love this board and Wolf for encouraging me to visit medellin. I have already purchased my ticket for return at the end of the month. Who ever knew a little currency could do so much. Pollo Negro is out.[/QUOTE]Cool dude, glad I helped you find your way to Nirvana! LOL Sounds like you had a blast!

[QUOTE=TransitionAlye;2164375]I am going to Medellin in March for a few days.
Where do you guys stay? Where do you book the hotel?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]How much Spanish do you speak? How much time have you spent in big Latin cities?

I book my hotel through [URL]Hotels.com[/URL].

You came to MDE with an unlimited budget and chose to buy real estate based on a few visits?

Meanwhile, meeting a truly trustworthy Paisa (who are notoriously jealous) that is mongering with you, with her blood relatives, on camera no less.

Do you realize what could happen inside your property and the implications of that? Do you think she'll really be faithful?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2164566] I actually told my girl she doesn't have to work and we worked out a plan to pay for her college and keep her in school and off a job as long as we are in a serious relationship. I love this board and Wolf for encouraging me to visit medellin. I have already purchased my ticket for return at the end of the month. Who ever knew a little currency could do so much. Pollo Negro is out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2164566]I arrived in Medellin on April 2 and left April 7th. I was just here on March 5th and decided to purchase an apartment here, so I did. I bought an apartment in Barrio Boyaca and I decided to return to Medellin every 4 weeks for 5 days. I found a girlfriend over there so everything works out fine. I send her a nice stipend biweekly and the bills are paid and the Apartment is well maintained. On top of that, I told her what my hobby is so, instead of her crying her eyes out, she goes to Centro with me every day and we rent a room to pick up chics. I allow my girl to pic the chic who she likes and we take them back to the rooms and we do our thing. This way family doesn't have any idea of what me and the girlfriend does while we are away from the house. I filled the cabinets full of food to last at least 2 weeks and off me and the girlfriend went to Centro. We had plenty of contacts from my first trip so all of the girls we saw the first time, if we liked them, we called them again to really bang there brains out. Day one, I picked up a morena from near Vera cruz and made her an offer and took her back to my room in centro and my girl stands in the room and gets pics of every girl that I bang. It's simple, like I told me girl, you can work in Medellin or work for me, assisting me with banging these chics, then you get to be with me and you get to see everything that I do and you don't have to worry. I just a very care free dude. If my girl did not help me, then I would have hired another girl from my first trip. I banged three girls everyday on a 500 mil COP budget. I wanted to get girls who were nice looking and photogenic for the Camera. At 500 mil COP, I easily obtained my goal. Day Two was like Day one, just much more smoother and comfortable with my girl as we rode a bus out to Barbosa to inquire about a Finca that me and my girl could get away from the family and just goof off and bang other chics. Well let me tell you, I found a finca out in Barbosa for 500 mil for 4 days, so me and my girl booked the finca and it seemed like it was 1000 ft in the damn sky, I nearly collapsed trying to walk up the steep embankment but I made it. So as we rode from bus to bus to retrieve food and items for the finca, we would meet girls and my girl would proposition them and they would say yay or nay, we found 3 chicas without problem and they came back to the finca and I banged them and my girl took pics, easy peasy. On Day 3, my girl told me that since I had bought the apartment and allowed her and her family to live there she had a special gift for me and only me and that I was to tell no one. So she calls over one of her cousins to come over to the finca and she allowed me to bang her and her cousin all damn day, so I didn't have to go out and look for any girls it was just me my girl and her cousin. The finca has a pool and like 16 beds, it looks like a lodge that you would stay at if you were going camping but it is secluded and really off hidden, my girl's mother suggested it so that me and my girl could have privacy. On day 4, my girl wakes up and cooks me breakfast. Fresh Jugo Maracuya, arepas, eggs, fresh salmon and a salad made with lemon vinegrette dressing, I mean it was awesome. My girl was like look, why not look though my phone, look at some my cousins and we can go seem them in person and visit my grandmother and we can bring back the ones that you like, my cousins all could use the extra cash. So we hoped on a bus, to the metro train, to the metro cable and up to granny's house to visit and hand pic cousins that I liked. My Lord does it get any better than this. My girl was like, I would rather kiss my cousins than some random working girl in the streets, plus my cousins will thank me for the extra cash. I'm like hell yeah, I'm with the program. So we picked up three of her cousins and headed back to the finca, we swam, grilled and had sex all damn evening and night. On day 5 I decided to relax a little and spend as much time with my girl as possible as well as her immediate family her mom dad brother and little sister. So I stayed at my apartment with the family and had family time like any old family guy would do. I love Colombia, Yes I do, my girl has no kids, and allows me to do as I please as long as I pay the bills. Here's my resolve to paying the bills, I paid so much money for child support when I was paying child support, that I can actually maintain a complete apartment buy groceries and pay someone to assist with keeping the property cleaned an maintained for less than what the child support people were draining me for. I actually told my girl she doesn't have to work and we worked out a plan to pay for her college and keep her in school and off a job as long as we are in a serious relationship. I love this board and Wolf for encouraging me to visit medellin. I have already purchased my ticket for return at the end of the month. Who ever knew a little currency could do so much. Pollo Negro is out.[/QUOTE]I ditto your sentiments as I too have similar experiences and have also carved out my piece of paradise in medellin over the past year plus, it gets better each visit.

TTM.

[QUOTE=TransitionAlye;2164375]I am going to Medellin in March for a few days.

Where do you guys stay? Where do you book the hotel?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Do you mean May, or are you planning really early, or do you own a time machine?

I think you'll find that most guys stay at RTFF. It's very popular. If you scroll down the page to the Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments thread you'll find some of the guys favorite spots at RTFF.

If you would rather not try RTFF, you'll need to give a lot more information before anyone can help you. What is your experience in large cities? How well do you speak Spanish? What are your specific plans in Medellin? What is your budget? What is your prior mongering experience? When you can answer those questions, someone might be able to steer you in the right direction.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2164566]I arrived in Medellin on April 2 and left April 7th. I was just here on March 5th and decided to purchase an apartment here, so I did. I bought an apartment in Barrio Boyaca and I decided to return to Medellin every 4 weeks for 5 days. I found a girlfriend over there so everything works out fine. I send her a nice stipend biweekly and the bills are paid and the Apartment is well maintained. On top of that, I told her what my hobby is so, instead of her crying her eyes out, she goes to Centro with me every day and we rent a room to pick up chics. I allow my girl to pic the chic who she likes and we take them back to the rooms and we do our thing. This way family doesn't have any idea of what me and the girlfriend does while we are away from the house. I filled the cabinets full of food to last at least 2 weeks and off me and the girlfriend went to Centro. We had plenty of contacts from my first trip so all of the girls we saw the first time, if we liked them, we called them again to really bang there brains out. Day one, I picked up a morena from near Vera cruz and made her an offer and took her back to my room in centro and my girl stands in the room and gets pics of every girl that I bang. It's simple, like I told me girl, you can work in Medellin or work for me, assisting me with banging these chics, then you get to be with me and you get to see everything that I do and you don't have to worry. I just a very care free dude. If my girl did not help me, then I would have hired another girl from my first trip. I banged three girls everyday on a 500 mil COP budget. I wanted to get girls who were nice looking and photogenic for the Camera..[/QUOTE]Almost anything goes here as it is truly amazing what you can have and do here.

Hi guys!

Finally back in MDE after a long time away. Hoping my favorite place to stop for two beers is still as chill as I remember. Masaje Zandalay is my favorite casa in town. Totally chill attitude there, nice ladies. Wish the were less booty and more skinny but can't argue with the hospitality. If you haven't checked it out, you should, and I'll update later if I'm wrong but I think its only 35 k for a HH.

Two questions for my fellow mongers:

1. Anyone have other favorite low-key casas? I don't do the high-dollar places, looking for the normal local price casas. Happy to meet up this week with anyone who wants to kick around.

2. How about a good massage? Any recommendations? The ladies at Zandalay will rub your back a bit but its nothing to write home about. I'd prefer a good massage with happy ending of course, but more than likely have to settle for a legit massage.

I see the map is still going but has gone "invite only." Thanks to all who contribute to it!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2164483]You won't need a fiador for a 1 month furnished rental. A fiador is only needed for a long term lease and typically only for unfurnished apartments.

If you get off the metro at Estadio and walk south on 70 there are a couple of agencies that rent furnished apartments. One on each side, just a few blocks south of the station. Don't know what they have to offer.

The problems are as much to do with the short term rentals as with the prepagos, especially the places that cater to gringos. Too many of them lack volume control or a filter or any respect for the people around them. They're in Medellin to party and they don't give a damn what anyone else thinks about them.

If all of them learned basic social behavior, there wouldn't be problems. Greet the neighbors, smile exchange a few kind words and they'll stop cringing every time they see a gringo.[/QUOTE]Totally understand. Thanks for the tip on the rental agency on La 70. As mentioned, I prefer a building that has on-site security, but would consider other options if they severely limit access to the building, like a locked entry door with unit buzzer and neighbors that give a damn about who is allowed entry to the building. I am pretty low profile when I visit from the indoor party standpoint, but from time to time have had as many as 3 different girls over in a single day for multiple days in a row. The Blux fit my needs to do that, and to have a quality and safe stay with a swimming pool. The number of daily guests will be far more limited on my retirement income, so that is an area I have less concern about in the future. But having a balcony and swimming pool is essential for me. Looking forward to experience of spending 1-2 months at a time, in MDE. Hope I can start that leg of my journey very soon.

Since I have just retired, I am considering differing lengths of stay that do not exceed the annual limit of a tourist visa. So 6 months, either broken up into 1, 2 or 3 different trips. The latter seems more likely given there are still things I still want to do in the states like spending time with my friends and using my fishing boat.

For the fiador, how would you define long-term lease? 6 months, 12 months?

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2164969]Anyone have other favorite low-key casas? I don't do the high-dollar places, looking for the normal local price casas. Happy to meet up this week with anyone who wants to kick around.[/QUOTE]For low key and open very early and very late (like 10 a to 4 am) I like Yakusa at Cra 50 a #53-38, (across from Hotel Botero and behind Hotel Nutribarra) they have a couch and some chairs and they serve beer etc. However their rooms are not so good but they allow free takeout to close by hotels for 45 k 1/2 HR. I think the Hotel Deseros right next door is a short term or would be cheap anyway.

[QUOTE=TransitionAlye;2164375]I am going to Medellin in March for a few days.

Where do you guys stay? Where do you book the hotel?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I like to use apartments I rent on airbnb. No problems bringing chicks back so far. The key is to rent from corporations and people with a lots of listings--they're less likely to give a shite if you're using their place as a love pad. If you're unsure just ask if they allow visitors.

There's also [URL]http://pobladorentals.com/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.apartmentinternational.com[/URL] . I haven't used either but both explicitly told me they don't mind guests.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2164969]Hi guys!

2. How about a good massage? Any recommendations? The ladies at Zandalay will rub your back a bit but its nothing to write home about. I'd prefer a good massage with happy ending of course, but more than likely have to settle for a legit massage.
[/QUOTE]There's Jade Palace near Parque LLeras. Their massages really aren't any better than what you can get in other casas, though you can pay extra for BBJ and full service.

Hello gents,

I was wondering has anyone tried this girl I found in Moleroticos, any intel you can provide.

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/oye-quien-dijo-anal-tu-negra-mamona/9991076/[/URL]

We are looking to book a penthouse on Airbnb for a bachelor party. If a listing says bachelor party friendly. Is it safe to assume that they don't mind when you bring chicas into the building?

[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2165237]Hello gents,

I was wondering has anyone tried this girl I found in Moleroticos, any intel you can provide.

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/oye-quien-dijo-anal-tu-negra-mamona/9991076/[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like you have all the intel you need. Why don't you try her out for yourself? Get your own experience instead of trying to go off the experience of others.

Hey guys,

Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs? My Spanish is pretty bad, so will be relying on google translator.

Can I just walk up to the girls and check if they want to spend the night with me if I pay them?

Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;2164726]You came to MDE with an unlimited budget and chose to buy real estate based on a few visits?

Meanwhile, meeting a truly trustworthy Paisa (who are notoriously jealous) that is mongering with you, with her blood relatives, on camera no less.

Do you realize what could happen inside your property and the implications of that? Do you think she'll really be faithful?[/QUOTE]Not once since I called has my girlfriend not picked up that phone? I work sometimes 72 hours none stop and every time I call, she pics up that phone, on vídeo on whatsapp. Have you ever thought, that some people truly appreciate a roof over their head and nearly a $1000 a month free income. Do I give a flip, nope. Why? Had a divorce recently about 5 years ago, and lost 9 homes to that situation. You win some, you lose some, it's called living, that's what breathing humans do. I'm well paid to answer my phone and it is critical that I do. One thing for sure is this, Women talk, in rich countries and in poor countries, and what I can tell you is this, the women in my neighbourhood are awefully nice since I bought that home. My girl doesn't let me go shopping alone, why? She knows I come to the gambling table prepared to play and ready to bet. Greatest thing I've learned in life is this, being a monger is like lotto. You got to be in it to win it, long live Medellín. PolloNegro is out!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2164483]You won't need a fiador for a 1 month furnished rental. A fiador is only needed for a long term lease and typically only for unfurnished apartments.

If you get off the metro at Estadio and walk south on 70 there are a couple of agencies that rent furnished apartments. One on each side, just a few blocks south of the station. Don't know what they have to offer.[/QUOTE]Do you have The name for some of these agencies?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2165253]Looks like you have all the intel you need. Why don't you try her out for yourself? Get your own experience instead of trying to go off the experience of others.[/QUOTE]And then give us a report.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2165275]Hey guys,

Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs? My Spanish is pretty bad, so will be relying on google translator.

Can I just walk up to the girls and check if they want to spend the night with me if I pay them?

Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?[/QUOTE]Many of the clubs will have working girls inside, or they will be walking up and down the streets around the park. The most well known club for working girls is Gusto. Things don't really get busy until 11 pm and Sunday through Tuesday are slow nights unless Monday is a holiday.

It's simple. Go inside and order a drink. Look for the girls who are staring at you, or who are motioning you to come over. Most of them are fairly obvious. Expect the price to be high. They'll see Google translate and automatically double or triple their usual rate.

"Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs?

The deal is they are very expensive. You'd be better off picking someone off the web:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin[/URL]

"Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?

Yes, all the strip clubs starting with Fase II [URL]http://www.clubfasedos.com/[/URL] you can pay the club a exit fee to have the girl come with you also although that will be a lot cheaper in the Centro clubs. The Centro clubs usually want a 50 k or so exit fee ($17) At least in the strip clubs you can test drive 1st before taking off the lot.

Very first in Medellin next month. I have no idea what I'm doing and way too much information out there. Can someone suggest few places to stay at (the mansion is out of my price range) or just general areas of town to stay at. I'm looking into hotels and airbnb. The goal is to maximize the amount of girls to have with as little commute as possible.

Preparing for my return to Medellin. I have a few more questions if anyone can help. So I understand after sundown the Centro gets sketchy after the businesses close and all the police leave.

1. What time do strip clubs in the Centro open.

2. Is it safe to hang out in the Strip clubs in the Centro at night after the casa's close?

3. Are there showers in the casa's and strip clubs? Or do you have to go to your hotel to shower inbetween sessions?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2165431] Had a divorce recently about 5 years ago, and lost 9 homes to that situation. [/QUOTE]Be sure to call attention to your wealth in each and every post, as it earns you so much respect.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2165647]"Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs?

The deal is they are very expensive. You'd be better off picking someone off the web:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin[/URL]

"Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?

Yes, all the strip clubs starting with Fase II [URL]http://www.clubfasedos.com/[/URL] you can pay the club a exit fee to have the girl come with you also although that will be a lot cheaper in the Centro clubs. The Centro clubs usually want a 50 k or so exit fee ($17) At least in the strip clubs you can test drive 1st before taking off the lot.[/QUOTE]Agreed Wolf. I personally never do the bar scene when I travel their. I personally like the casa girls to hang out with. I grab their numbers after the session and I can hang with them the entire night at my apartment for absolutely dirt cheap.

C5.

Preparing for my return to Medellin. I have a few more questions if anyone can help. So I understand after sundown the Centro gets sketchy after the businesses close and all the police leave.

All the Police don't leave, there are just less of them.

1. What time do strip clubs in the Centro open.

4 ish.

2. Is it safe to hang out in the Strip clubs in the Centro at night after the casa's close?

Yes, the bigger clubs all have bouncers and doormen, I have been in them till 2 am+. (Conejitas, Maracaibo, BarraEjective).

3. Are there showers in the casa's and strip clubs? Or do you have to go to your hotel to shower inbetween sessions?

The nicer ones do for sure, the room's I have been in in Conejitas strip clubs did, Maricaibo also, I forget if Barra Ejective did but I think so. Casa Yakusa does not I think but I usually do take out there. All the street girls have taken me to short term hotels with showers also.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2165789] The goal is to maximize the amount of girls to have with as little commute as possible.[/QUOTE]The only way to do that is stay in Centro, that puts you at ground zero for casa's, strip clubs and street girls, I reckon there are close to 500+ working girls with in a 4 block radius of where I stay at the hotel Botero (I did a large write up on it in the Med. Hotels & rental apts thread recently) That's 6 strip clubs, 2 Casa's and 2 redlight blocks.

Strip clubs Conejitas, Maricaibo, BarraEjectiva, TabernaVictoria, BarOccidental, and GrilleNuevaAvenida, plus casa's Yakusa & Chicas Punto and redlight blocks Vera Cruz & Raudal. That's girls available from 8 am to 4 am np.

Centro is more for veteran travelers who speak some Spanish though and can fly under the radar after dark. (Or take cabs short distances).

[QUOTE=Talon;2165159]There's Jade Palace near Parque LLeras. Their massages really aren't any better than what you can get in other casas, though you can pay extra for BBJ and full service.[/QUOTE]Try that massage spot in Rio sur. I forgot the name but you'll see it.

On the 3rd or 4th floor. They give an actual massage. Tip for a happy ending. It's more pro here but still fun. They sent going to bang you in the room though but it's actually a really good massage.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2166105]
2. Is it safe to hang out in the Strip clubs in the Centro at night after the casa's close?

Yes, the bigger clubs all have bouncers and doormen, I have been in them till 2 am+. (Conejitas, Maracaibo, BarraEjective).

[/QUOTE]Hanging out [B]in[/B] the strip clubs in Centro at night is not the issue. [B]Leaving[/B] them is the potential issue, and all the bouncers and doormen in the world won't help you once you leave. I'm just sayin'.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2166132]Hanging out [B]in[/B] the strip clubs in Centro at night is not the issue. [B]Leaving[/B] them is the potential issue, and all the bouncers and doormen in the world won't help you once you leave. I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE]They will wave a taxi down for you if you don't want to walk.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2165789]Very first in Medellin next month. I have no idea what I'm doing and way too much information out there. Can someone suggest few places to stay at (the mansion is out of my price range) or just general areas of town to stay at. I'm looking into hotels and airbnb. The goal is to maximize the amount of girls to have with as little commute as possible.[/QUOTE]Really depends on how you're planning to hookup. If you looking for upscale areas with a busy nightlife stay in Laureles around Carrera 70 or Poblado near Parque LLeras. Both are filled with bars and nightclubs that you can cruise for chicks if you speak fluent Spanish and have good game. If you're gameless than at least you got a good home base to order in with a facebook girl or escort on [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL]. Groups of prepagos can be found hanging out at Parque Lleras after dark. Both areas see a lot of gringos and are regarded as the safer parts of town.

Alternatively if you want to save a buck you can stay in Centro somewhere near Parque Bolivar or Bolero. There are a ton of cheap casas and strip clubs in the area and the place is generally OK to walk around during daylight hours. The place takes a turn for the worse at night when all the drug pushers, thieves, and criminals emerge to ply their trade so I wouldn't recommend sticking around unless you're a hardened veteran or with a group of blokes to watch your back.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2166127]Try that massage spot in Rio sur. I forgot the name but you'll see it.

On the 3rd or 4th floor. They give an actual massage. Tip for a happy ending. It's more pro here but still fun. They sent going to bang you in the room though but it's actually a really good massage.[/QUOTE]Om Spa For Men? I've heard of the place but never tried them before. As it happens they're less than a block away from my airbnb rental so I may check them out when I'm in town next month.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2166132]Hanging out [B]in[/B] the strip clubs in Centro at night is not the issue. [B]Leaving[/B] them is the potential issue, and all the bouncers and doormen in the world won't help you once you leave. I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE]True that, hell you must understand that you are on your OWN, no BODY will help, it could be the middle of the day on a busy street and no one will put themselves at risk, not the people walking by you or the shop owners or even those police as they are a joke.

If and when something happens think smart and act fast, give up what you got and hand it over.

Two weeks ago at 1 AM me and my wing man (a colombian friend) left Maracaibo and walked north-west (across the street from Conejitas) going to make a left at the museum and check out the street meat, well 8 to 10 dark black nigga colombians started to follow and encircle us from all sides, two had long knifes partially hidden up their sleeves, if it was not the fact that two real police were about 70 years in front of us and they had to think twice about what to do with me, a 6'-7" gringo that does not give a shit, they disbanded and left us alone.

Be safe guys.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2166109]The only way to do that is stay in Centro, that puts you at ground zero for casa's, strip clubs and street girls, I reckon there are close to 500+ working girls with in a 4 block radius of where I stay at the hotel Botero (I did a large write up on it in the Med. Hotels & rental apts thread recently) That's 6 strip clubs, 2 Casa's and 2 redlight blocks.

Strip clubs Conejitas, Maricaibo, BarraEjectiva, TabernaVictoria, BarOccidental, and GrilleNuevaAvenida, plus casa's Yakusa & Chicas Punto and redlight blocks Vera Cruz & Raudal. That's girls available from 8 am to 4 am np.

Centro is more for veteran travelers who speak some Spanish though and can fly under the radar after dark. (Or take cabs short distances).[/QUOTE]Yeah that's the thing. I don't speak any Spanish (except for few words). I guess you would need some Spanish to go to those casas?

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2166149] well 8 to 10 dark black nigga colombians started to follow and encircle us from all sides, two had long knifes partially hidden up their sleeves, if it was not the fact that two real police were about 70 years in front of us and they had to think twice about what to do with me, a 6'-7" gringo that does not give a shit, they disbanded and left us alone.


TTM.[/QUOTE]You're lucky police were out at 1 am like that.

They're usually gone by then.

And seriously, the 8-10 bad dudes with knives don't give a rat's ass about how tall you are, or if you give a shit or not, LOL.

You got lucky.

Your options for limiting commute time are web sites and agencies that do outcall if you are going to be in Poblado. If you are going to stay Centro or Laureles, you will be closer to where many providers live and work so you have the option of walking to them or having them come to you via rapid transit. A lot of guys pay taxi fares. I consider that optional but stand by for other opinions.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2165789]Very first in Medellin next month. I have no idea what I'm doing and way too much information out there. Can someone suggest few places to stay at (the mansion is out of my price range) or just general areas of town to stay at. I'm looking into hotels and airbnb. The goal is to maximize the amount of girls to have with as little commute as possible.[/QUOTE]

This is a really good report. In a very detailed way, it lists most of the things you must not do if you want to avoid becoming a crime victim. It also expresses it in terms we should avoid using if we don't want to incite controversy, offend or troll.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2166149]True that, hell you must understand that you are on your OWN, no BODY will help, it could be the middle of the day on a busy street and no one will put themselves at risk, not the people walking by you or the shop owners or even those police as they are a joke.

If and when something happens think smart and act fast, give up what you got and hand it over.

Two weeks ago at 1 AM me and my wing man (a colombian friend) left Maracaibo and walked north-west (across the street from Conejitas) going to make a left at the museum and check out the street meat, well 8 to 10 dark black nigga colombians started to follow and encircle us from all sides, two had long knifes partially hidden up their sleeves, if it was not the fact that two real police were about 70 years in front of us and they had to think twice about what to do with me, a 6'-7" gringo that does not give a shit, they disbanded and left us alone.

Be safe guys.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talon;2166142]Om Spa For Men? I've heard of the place but never tried them before. As it happens they're less than a block away from my airbnb rental so I may check them out when I'm in town next month.[/QUOTE]It's on the fourth floor of Rio Sur Mall in the far back of mall. It is 100 K for 1 hour massage which you pay the front desk afterwards. First time there this past March it was strictly a legit massage, no extras with extremely cute chica. Went back next day & got another chica, once again great massage, but this time with HJ finish for an extra 50 K. My buddy got the same, but his chica asked for 100 K extra for HJ.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2166225]It's on the fourth floor of Rio Sur Mall in the far back of mall. It is 100 K for 1 hour massage which you pay the front desk afterwards. First time there this past March it was strictly a legit massage, no extras with extremely cute chica. Went back next day & got another chica, once again great massage, but this time with HJ finish for an extra 50 K. My buddy got the same, but his chica asked for 100 K extra for HJ.[/QUOTE]Sounds like an expensive crapshoot then. Do you get the chance to ask each masseuse if they provide happy endings beforehand? I can get a facebook girl to come to my apartment and provide bareback oral and full service for those kind of prices.

I tend to agree about the danger in day time, and the peoples' acceptance of crime. I saw more robberies in day time than in the night, though it is too dark to see them in the night. Also, usually thugs are condoned by the local mafia and corrupt police, so people know that it is futile to combat with crime. Cops are paid for not bothering the punks, that is why they are scorned by the people. Last month I was in the area you mentioned around 9 pm, and a few regulars came to me and told me to leave the area immediately. I did.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2166149]True that, hell you must understand that you are on your OWN, no BODY will help, it could be the middle of the day on a busy street and no one will put themselves at risk, not the people walking by you or the shop owners or even those police as they are a joke.

If and when something happens think smart and act fast, give up what you got and hand it over.

Two weeks ago at 1 AM me and my wing man (a colombian friend) left Maracaibo and walked north-west (across the street from Conejitas) going to make a left at the museum and check out the street meat, well 8 to 10 dark black nigga colombians started to follow and encircle us from all sides, two had long knifes partially hidden up their sleeves, if it was not the fact that two real police were about 70 years in front of us and they had to think twice about what to do with me, a 6'-7" gringo that does not give a shit, they disbanded and left us alone.

Be safe guys.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2165275]Hey guys,

Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs? My Spanish is pretty bad, so will be relying on google translator.

Can I just walk up to the girls and check if they want to spend the night with me if I pay them?

[/QUOTE]Poster child.

[QUOTE=Talon;2166266]Sounds like an expensive crapshoot then. Do you get the chance to ask each masseuse if they provide happy endings beforehand? I can get a facebook girl to come to my apartment and provide bareback oral and full service for those kind of prices.[/QUOTE]Both times I went, I just walked in, so had no lineup or choice. You can make appts. , so if you find one that suits you, you can make appt with her. All the girls I saw were pretty good looking and do a really great massage. I'm sure the girl at the front desk knows what is going on, but the masseuse does it on the down low.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2166198]You're lucky police were out at 1 am like that.

They're usually gone by then.

And seriously, the 8-10 bad dudes with knives don't give a rat's ass about how tall you are, or if you give a shit or not, LOL.

You got lucky.[/QUOTE]Faced with ten bad dudes with knives I'll give a shit. I'm no Jackie Chan. Take all I've got including the clothes on my back, at least I'll live another day to monger. One bad dude with a knife, I don't give a shit, lets get ready to rumble, if he is a normal sized Colombian dude (I'm over 6' as well).

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2166225]It's on the fourth floor of Rio Sur Mall in the far back of mall. It is 100 K for 1 hour massage which you pay the front desk afterwards. First time there this past March it was strictly a legit massage, no extras with extremely cute chica. Went back next day & got another chica, once again great massage, but this time with HJ finish for an extra 50 K. My buddy got the same, but his chica asked for 100 K extra for HJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks to everyone who replied with massage advice. 50 k for a happy ending seems pretty high when you can get the whole deal for 42 k at a casa, might just enjoy the massage. Def want to check these places out, but I'm running out of time!

I matched a sweet 19 year old on Tinder who was looking for a job and offered her 70 k for a massage. It was a pretty bad massage but next thing you know, her top is off and her little 19'year old titties are in my face and she's giving me a rocking HJ. After that she didn't put her top back on, and we napped. Eventually I started playing with her tits and when I moved towards her jeans she said "momento, mojado" and went to the bathroom. Mojado means wet, she was so horny she had to go dry off her tiny little tang! Sex was great and off she went with the 70 k. Trying to get her back but I have a feeling I opened her eyes to a new world and she's off on new peso conquests. What a great time tho!

Also matched some Venezuelan chick who agreed to give me massage for 50 k w he, she's supposed to come this afternoon.

Moral of the story: Match girls on Tinder, if they don't have a job, ask if they want to make some money doing massage, and see where it goes from there.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2166553]Sex was great and off she went with the 70 k. Trying to get her back but I have a feeling I opened her eyes to a new world and she's off on new peso conquests.[/QUOTE]And you honestly think this was her first time doing this? If so, you must be walking around with a rabbit's foot, horseshoe, and four-leaf clover in your pocket.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2166564]And you honestly think this was her first time doing this? If so, you must be walking around with a rabbit's foot, horseshoe, and four-leaf clover in your pocket.[/QUOTE]He never said that, and anyway you forgot the unicorn.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2166181]Yeah that's the thing. I don't speak any Spanish (except for few words). I guess you would need some Spanish to go to those casas?[/QUOTE]Not really, I have taken some guys with me to MED who didn't speak any Spanish and I wasn't there for them the whole time, they got by OK, translation apps on the phone, or say "Cuánto cuesta?" and hand them a pad and pen to write down the number of pesos.

I am interested in

Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy) , Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 65 k 30 min. 90 k 60 min. Hours: 7 days. 9 am to 9:30 pm.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2165275]Hey guys,

Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs? My Spanish is pretty bad, so will be relying on google translator.

Can I just walk up to the girls and check if they want to spend the night with me if I pay them?

Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?[/QUOTE]Please do not just walk up to girls in Parque Lleras and offer money for sex. This type of behavior is repulsive to Colombians.

[QUOTE=Combo;2166624]Please do not just walk up to girls in Parque Lleras and offer money for sex. This type of behavior is repulsive to Colombians.[/QUOTE]Do not do this. Go to Gustos in Parque Lleras they have plenty of working girls there.

Medellin centro at night is kinda dangerous, take care of that.

[QUOTE=NothingToLose;2166612]I am interested in

Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy) , Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 65 k 30 min. 90 k 60 min. Hours: 7 days. 9 am to 9:30 pm.[/QUOTE]It's been reviewed plenty of times. However the prices are wrong. Current price is 150 k for 60 minutes. Use the search function.

[QUOTE=Combo;2166624]Please do not just walk up to girls in Parque Lleras and offer money for sex. This type of behavior is repulsive to Colombians.[/QUOTE]Replace "Colombians" with "humans."

Even In Veracruz and Raudel blocks of El Centro a person should have more tact than to just offer a price.

[QUOTE=NothingToLose;2166612]I am interested in

Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy) , Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 65 k 30 min. 90 k 60 min. Hours: 7 days. 9 am to 9:30 pm.[/QUOTE]I have been there and think that the prices are higher than 90 K for 60 min, I like to go to Tantra Massage on 80th, they charge 135 K an hour, have been with a lady named Sophia, great tits and she can shake her ass when she turns on the music in the room. Very sweet and GFE type.

Energy has been reviewed at least one hundred times. Search function much?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2165431]Not once since I called has my girlfriend not picked up that phone? I work sometimes 72 hours none stop and every time I call, she pics up that phone, on vdeo on whatsapp. Have you ever thought, that some people truly appreciate a roof over their head and nearly a $1000 a month free income. Do I give a flip, nope. Why? Had a divorce recently about 5 years ago, and lost 9 homes to that situation. You win some, you lose some, it's called living, that's what breathing humans do. I'm well paid to answer my phone and it is critical that I do. One thing for sure is this, Women talk, in rich countries and in poor countries, and what I can tell you is this, the women in my neighbourhood are awefully nice since I bought that home. My girl doesn't let me go shopping alone, why? She knows I come to the gambling table prepared to play and ready to bet. Greatest thing I've learned in life is this, being a monger is like lotto. You got to be in it to win it, long live Medelln. PolloNegro is out![/QUOTE]I heard ya PolloNegro.

Most men stop worrying about women cheating and or leaving when they swimming in a sea of pussy (Medellin). And know how to protect their assets.

I see you have found pussy paradise. Just hope you learned your lesson about hanging on to your assets. If you let your girlfriend live with you for two years or more she can claim a common law marriage.

Happened to a friend of mine. And she went to court even though he moved out a month before the two year mark.

She just got a bunch of her friends to go to court and say she had been living with him for more than two years. The judge believed them and he lost about half of his personal property. Car furniture and other things. But not too much because he had his real assets in the States. But since you bought a house. You should take care.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2166887] If you let your girlfriend live with you for two years or more she can claim a common law marriage.[/QUOTE]This depends on the jurisdiction. In the US, only 8 states plus DC still recognize common law marriage, and the cohabitation period varies. For example, in CO it is one year. I believe Black Chicken is from Puerto Rico, which does not recognize common law marriage. Furthermore, in at least the jurisdiction with which I am the most familiar, merely living together for X amount of time is not sufficient. The couple must hold themselves out to others as being married. Under some circumstances, this can create 'marriage by estoppel.'

But since he has an 'unlimited' supply of money, it won't make any difference anyway.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2166887] But since you bought a house. You should take care.[/QUOTE]You all need to stop giving blac chicken flak. Let the man live his life! And who knows if he's legit? Besides others misfortune is my entertainment.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2166105]Preparing for my return to Medellin. I have a few more questions if anyone can help. So I understand after sundown the Centro gets sketchy after the businesses close and all the police leave.

All the Police don't leave, there are just less of them.

1. What time do strip clubs in the Centro open.

4 ish.

2. Is it safe to hang out in the Strip clubs in the Centro at night after the casa's close?

Yes, the bigger clubs all have bouncers and doormen, I have been in them till 2 am+. (Conejitas, Maracaibo, BarraEjective).

3. Are there showers in the casa's and strip clubs? Or do you have to go to your hotel to shower inbetween sessions?

The nicer ones do for sure, the room's I have been in in Conejitas strip clubs did, Maricaibo also, I forget if Barra Ejective did but I think so. Casa Yakusa does not I think but I usually do take out there. All the street girls have taken me to short term hotels with showers also.[/QUOTE]Most of the strip clubs have showers with cold water in the rooms. I go there weekly and walk from / to San Antonio and have never had an issue or felt unsafe. I get an Uber if I'm out after the trains stop.

I have learned, if you are spending money and fraternizing with the women of the street, even the local thugs tend to not bother you. I have a set of eyes and I've always had a eye for business. Speaking spanish fluently it took me no time at all to pick what I wanted and run with it. Every since my first visit, the other trips I have made to Medellin, paid for themselves. I refuse to go to any country and just spend money and pretend that I am blind. I have ways of testing women, regardless of country. My girl has made plenty of cash in a business I started in Medellin. Go to Centro, go into the shops, go into the malls, buy some fruit, eat some pollo, and just watch, if you can not pick up on what the citizens will buy or shop for, then you are blind. Medellin is a Gold mind for certain American items. I have made a ton of money with very minimum objects from the US. So it is a win win situation for me. My neighbors took my entire load of goods off of me as soon as I arrived home. My girlfriend told them what items I was bringing from the US and I was able to sale them at a fraction of what they cost in Medellin and the product is better and newer than the items they have in Medellin. What other place can you get a free or $20 item and receive a return of $160 US dollars. I have had no loss in Medellin at all. When I go home, and I go home frequently, I will be home again by the end of April and I just left. I take myself home, greet my in-laws and my girlfriend and go to my room and upload my computer and still conduct US business from my home. The internet is great and the entire apartment has wifi and I installed extra routers throughout the apartment. I can still go out and look for girls if I choose to do so. My girl is happy, her family is happy, and even in a new country, I continue to make decent currency. Every time I land in Colombia, I am nearly guaranteed a $3-$5000 US profit and that's not bad to only have been in Medellin 3 times. Pussy isn't the only thing selling in Medellin. Look around, pay attention, and you can make money selling water in the desert. When I leave Medellin, I leave my girl with enough items to make enough money to hold her until I return. So given 7 to 8 trips, I will have my money back that I put into the apartment. So if I lose it, who gives a flip? Legal money, plenty of girls, a new girlfriend, you guys have got to make sure you recoup your losses and not just spend money without ever seeing a penny come back. Long story short, I absolutely love Medellin, Puerto Berrio to be exact. You guys have become so accustomed to cookie cutter designs that you actually believe the BS that media drums up. Hard for me to believe that we are all educated individuals and we have such different perspectives of what danger really is. That just shows how different our lives are in the US and how it effects our perception of danger. I love this board and its is very informative. My advice is you can spend and spend until you go broke or you can observe, negotiate, and have more fun that you could have ever imagined. PolloNegro is out!

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2166928]You all need to stop giving blac chicken flak. Let the man live his life! And who knows if he's legit? Besides others misfortune is my entertainment.[/QUOTE]Flak? I consider that helpful advice. Wish him the best.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2167048]Flak? I consider that helpful advice. Wish him the best.[/QUOTE]Yes poker terminology. Why give him advice when you can stand aside and watch senor black chicken crash and burn.

Fellow mongers,

What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's? I know they will be expensive but where would they cheaper at?

Ideally I would not have to spend much time at a club / casa / bar but could take them back to my place.

What are the hottest to me. Under 25, taller, curvy, small waist.

I am guessing the cheapest top girls are 100,000 for an hour? But where?

Muchas gracias amigos.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2167193]What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's? I know they will be expensive but where would they cheaper at?

Ideally I would not have to spend much time at a club / casa / bar but could take them back to my place.

What are the hottest to me. Under 25, taller, curvy, small waist.

I am guessing the cheapest top girls are 100,000 for an hour? But where?
[/QUOTE]Well Bar La Islas is 300 k on site.

Fase Dos is 190 k.

Luna Lunera 140 k.

San Diego not sure on prices but 150 k+- I think.

To get under 100 k you will have to cruze the Centro strip clubs, Barra Ejectiva and Coneijtas and Maricaibo. 9's kinda rare there but they do get some if you get lucky.

Or you can shop online:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin[/URL]

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2165275]Hey guys,

Trying to figure out what is the deal with picking up girls in Parque Lleras bars and clubs? My Spanish is pretty bad, so will be relying on google translator.

Can I just walk up to the girls and check if they want to spend the night with me if I pay them?

Any bars / clubs you would recommend where the probability that the girl is a working girl (and not with a boyfriend there)?[/QUOTE]It's actually very easy, just make eye contact, if they smile, they are working girls. After the first one you talk to, the rest will see and you will be labeled as a monger and it's all cake from there.

BTW, almost every girl that's not with a man is a working girl.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2167193]Fellow mongers,

What place has the cheapest 9 and 10's? I know they will be expensive but where would they cheaper at?

Ideally I would not have to spend much time at a club / casa / bar but could take them back to my place.

What are the hottest to me. Under 25, taller, curvy, small waist.

I am guessing the cheapest top girls are 100,000 for an hour? But where?

Muchas gracias amigos.[/QUOTE]About 300 mil per hour, but every chic is a 8 or better, looks are in the eyes of the man / woman looking, but they all looked good to me!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042]I have made a ton of money [/QUOTE]So you continually say, but that contributes nothing to the forum, and no one cares.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042] When I go home, and I go home frequently, I will be home again by the end of April and I just left.[/QUOTE]Pretty incoherent for someone who claims to be educated.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042]Every time I land in Colombia, I am nearly guaranteed a $3-$5000 US profit[/QUOTE]I am just so impressed by this, and respect you so much for this, that I just want to throw all the money I have ever earned in my life down the sewer.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042] only have been in Medellin 3 times.[/QUOTE]Clearly, then, you are a leading expert and could not possibly be misreading any one of a number of possible situations.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042]When I leave Medellin, I leave my girl with enough items to make enough money to hold her until I return.[/QUOTE]So you are supporting her while others are fucking her senseless.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042]Legal money[/QUOTE]Oh, so you are declaring the merchandise you are importing, paying customs duties on it, and reporting all the profit on your PR income tax forms?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042]Hard for me to believe that we are all educated individuals[/QUOTE]Who have never heard of a paragraph ja ja.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167042] My advice is you can spend and spend until you go broke.[/QUOTE]Or, you can wait until Colombian customs impounds all your goods, which will be the next chapter in this story.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2167054]Yes poker terminology. Why give him advice when you can stand aside and watch senor black chicken crash and burn.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I predict he will disappear from the board as fast as he appeared. He has already made so many contradictions in his reports, the exit will probably be soon. He can't decide how many times he has been to Medellin, how long he stayed nor when he arrived for the trip at the beginning of March, whether he sends money to his girlfriend or leaves goods for her to sell to sustain her livelihood. That's a few of the obvious ones.

He is so calm in his writing that I want to believe his stories in spite of his boasting. But then, there are the contradictions.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;2167359]So you continually say, but that contributes nothing to the forum, and no one cares.

Pretty incoherent for someone who claims to be educated.

I am just so impressed by this, and respect you so much for this, that I just want to throw all the money I have ever earned in my life down the sewer.

Clearly, then, you are a leading expert and could not possibly be misreading any one of a number of possible situations.

So you are supporting her while others are fucking her senseless.

Oh, so you are declaring the merchandise you are importing, paying customs duties on it, and reporting all the profit on your PR income tax forms?

Who have never heard of a paragraph ja ja.

Or, you can wait until Colombian customs impounds all your goods, which will be the next chapter in this story.[/QUOTE]Because you all are the experts, I'm just a novice, who cares if she's fucked senseless. As long as I'm treated well while I'm in Medellin, I'm OK with that. I have no problem spending pesos in Medellin, just as I have no problem collecting them. Long as I'm able to produce an address of residency and show that each item is a gift for family members, why would they take them, oh I forgot, I've got to be in the background quiet and blind. Some of wealthy rebuttals tell me, you're either on SSI, or you were born with a Silver Spoon, either way, I appreciate the great sarcasm. My life has taught me, a even swap is no swindle. Water is worth gold in the desert, and the prettiest chica is worth $80 tops in Medellin and still many board members want a better deal, the freaking irony! You'd be surprised what you can learn from a bunch of wise critics, I still appreciate the knowledge of the board, Pollonegro is out!

I give the board this, I personally think many of already have your formed your opinion and you seem to know everything about women, colombian, and all. Well if you ever ask me to contribute to the board, I will. I do what I see the rest of you veterans do, talk sh!t and shoot the breeze, so I will tell you this, I saw Monica, Valerie, Dulce, Tiffany, Tara, Katy, Andrea, Yamilla, Sairabel, Camella, and numerous more. The one's that I have mentioned, I have there numbers and the rates that they charged me, instead of posting locations and where to not go and where to go, how about we call a truce and actually post some females and some whatsapp numbers and how to get these girls to see some of the new board members. Here are a a few pics of the girls that I banged my 1st and 2nd time in Medellin. All of these post over the last month and the only person to post any solid leads was Wolf. I can tell you what the rate of every one of these girls are, and I see them every time I touch down in Medellin. I just plan a certain time to get away from my girlfriend and I go and have fun. It can't be true, I can't really have a inside connect with these girls in such a small amount of time. Truth is, guaranteed money and no one is harmed means, these girls will continue to service you and the thugs will not bother you. 99% of the time these girls are working with the thugs and if you're there just to get your rocks off, spend a little extra, play it safe, have the girls to come to your hotel room and bang them as you choose. You can always whatsapp me, have me to translate for you and send your address to the girls. That is what the Whatsapp was created for, we can do group chatting, even when I'm in the US, I can still help anyone who needs it. Getting girls in Medellin is not hard at all, you just need a connection, nothing more. Personally, I spend a little more, because I take pics and video of every chic I bang, it's just something that I do. PolloNegro is out.

If I were to use tinder while in Medellin, what percentage of the girls will end up being hookers. How will I know when messaging them, if.

They are regular or hookers. Do the hookers ask for money in the messages or tell you in person when you meet a a bar.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2167407]I give the board this[/QUOTE]Thanks! I didn't have a cute face shot of Tiffany. Where'd you meet the pink hair cute?