Safe Sex

Bangalore Dud,

Tuberculosis (TB) is dangerous. There are a number of issues here and sadly no simple answer for you.

If you are in the west and your friend was diagnosed and is being treated here then all her contacts will have been recorded for follow-through prophylactic treatment. So if you are one of those people you will be safe (not 100%, but safe enough). If she is a SW and you are mongering then I would say play it safe and either wait for the complete all-clear or move on to another provider.

You say she is getting better: mycobacterium tuberculosis is a hardy creature and difficult to eradicate. When th patient is still has infectious TB – the potential for transmitting the disease on to other people is high. Thus the treatments are aggressive, isolationist and very through. As an example, if I remember my history in the early 19 century about 30% of the European population was wiped out by TB…

Play safe, and depending on your circumstances speak to her / her clinicians.

Regards, Havanaman

Well, Jackson suggested that I re-post this in this "speciality" column. The original posting was put up in the Malaysian thread.

The text was reproduced ad verbatim: Quote:

So far, experts from the West had not found a high concentration of the HIV [virus that may cause AIDS, not necessary MUST cause AIDS, some are still living with HIV virus infection for more than 15 years] in the human saliva. A certain high concentration is needed to effect infection. Blood and semen have the highest concentration, next in line are the viginal discharge [lady's love juice, careful those who like DATY] and mother's milk!!

They believe that HIV infection will occur if the WL is bleeding from her gums and your didi is having some minute cracks or slits or wounds to receive them as the virus can penetrate those soft and raw linings [lymphatic membranes]at the didi shaft. Having STD's on that region can promote infection! Furthermore, the other way of infection from Male to Female is higher in chances, due to the discharge of HIV-infected semen fluid prior to full ejaculation, so if they suck in those during BBBJ, hmmm, the results could be disastrous for her!

That is the reason why a lot of Thai WL will insist on BJ with the rain coat on! No shiok for us, but safe for them!

Any comments from fellow brothers?

End of quote.

Ookami,

I agree with all your comments.

BBBJ or CBJ that is the question!

Personal choice, but play safe.

Regards, Havanaman

Gentlemen,

Here is a copy of a post by Mujerero in the Costa Rica forum, which I felt was quite important and worth finding out more about. It is more appropriate here. Attached is also the pic from his post. Any information?
[quote] Due to recent action by the FDA (USA) to approve the use of this Ora-Quick Oral/Saliva test for HIV antibodies, I am wondering if this is sold in Costa Rican pharmacies. This picture is from an unknown source, maybe even this forum, If anyone is aware of this being available it would probably be of interest to a lot of us to know too. (I would definitely like to know). Mujerero[/quote]

Regards, Havanaman

Havanaman, there's actually some info about Ora-Quick in this thread back, if I remember correctly, about a year or so ago.

Joe Zop,

Yes, thanks, I found the posts.

Regards, Havanaman

A newbie question,

Anyone know of any recommended clinics in Southern California that gives decent tests at feasible prices? I'm curious because since I've relocated to Los Angeles two years ago, I've been enjoying the AMP scene. However, since Dec '03, I've been tearing up the SW scene with pretty much dirty, nasty hoes with the occasional clean, nice SW gem. Sapman provided one such service in the San Fernando Valley for $200, all-inclusive, AIDS, herpes, hepatitus, HPV, clam, crabs, and other assorted sealife. I used to donate blood in the Chicagoland area every 3 months and they always gave me a clean bill of health and a sticker saying, "Smile at me. I gave blood!" I'm just looking for a cheaper alternative closer to like the Long Beach area.

Peace

Folks,

I'm travelling to Thailand in a few weeks, and will surely be tempted to try out the local SWs. This will be my first such experience (I'm generally a relationship oriented guy, but this is just too tempting to pass up). So my amateurish safety questions are:
- How safe is protected sex w/ SW?
- How dangerous is BBJ?
- How dangerous is french kissing?
- and how dangerous is DATY?

From what I've been able to gather, Thai girls are really big on taking showers before and after each encounter.. does that reduce the risk of anything?

Thanks in advance!

BG ROT

Read this section thouroughly BG, I don't do p4p, but after reading this I never will, protected sex is still risky, you can get genetal herpes from skin contact alone (that right guys?), incurable. Slightest cuts that tranfer body fluids make DATY and even french kissing risky

All I can say is thank god my girl's a model and keeps me satisfied!!! All those risks are seriously scary, that pic of someone with genetal herpes somewhere in this section was a real eye opener! Good luck though BG!

I think this should interest us all

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=751&e=1&u=/nm/20040722/hl_nm/health_sex_dc

Can anyone share expirience of using condoms for a tongue that usually used for DATY?

Buzz04,

Thanks for that link man.

The article by Patricia Reaneyis an eye opener indeed.

However I would say that a little common sense, using condoms and not giving a P4P provider DATY will greatly reduce ones risks.

In the end however there is no 100% guarantee or indeed safety, well except if one never has sex again…

Regards, Havanaman

Klitchkov,

There was some reference to shields for DATY a few posts ago. I must tell you however that it is like taking a plastic bag and spending your time licking that! I tried it just once and it was so of putting I quite…

If you want to know what I mean, just get some cling-film and wrap it over your had and start licking. It really is one major turn off. Just my opinion and off course other peoples will vary.

Regards, Havanaman

klitchkov, i'm with havannaman on this one. what possible enjoyment can you get by engaging in daty with a condom on your tongue?

that being said, if she's clean, freshly showered, and you're able to inspect the clam for any signs of infection or disease -- then go for it. i've daty'ed literally hundreds of working girls without incidence. it's just something i really enjoy so i'm willing to take the risk.

despite the horrific pictures of herpes posted here, for most people it is a very minor inconvenience. with insurance a three month supply of acyclovir is about $10, and for most people keeps symptoms at bay permanently. i'd rather have a herpes outbreak than a cold anyday. for most, a little sore that lasts about two days, then scabs over and is completely gone in a week, that even without treatment often only shows up once or twice a year.

to me giving up daty because i might catch herpes, would be like someone giving up their favorite sport because they might scrape their knee. actually the scrape on the knee would be more painful and take longer to heal. civ2000

Protected sex sucks, but I suppose it is the only way to go.

Some time ago the following idea crossed my mind: porn stars have unprotected sex because they are tested regularly and have to present the results of tests before they ‘act’ in the films. Right, in that case I could also travel, for instance, to Thailand, spend a week there in search of the girl of my dreams, find her, go to a clinic and test her for all major STD’s, like the professionals porn stars do, and then spend the following week having wild and fully enjoyable unprotected sex with her.

In theory it would work and I’d be safe, or to be more precise, I’d be as safe as a professional porn star.

But if you think of it carefully it’d be OK only with STD’s for which there are accurate tests available (e.g. HIV, Hepatitis B, etc) , but what about the rest? What about genital herpes? As far as I know there is no reliable test available for genital herpes. I can’t believe that the porn super stars who have had unprotected vaginal, anal and oral sex with literally thousands of women (most of whom, in turn, had sex before with endless men) have done so without contracting herpes, but if the screening they use doesn’t cover herpes how the fuck do they manage not to get it?

I see only 2 possible options:

1. Herpes is most probably widespread within the adult entertainment industry, but porn actors/actresses don’t give a shit for it.
2. There is a reliable test for herpes, which I am not aware of.

I’d appreciate if anyone has any useful feedback on this matter.