Minsk

[QUOTE=Expat1234;1234446]Also has anyone got their visa at the airport?[/QUOTE]Done it a couple of times but not for a couple of years. The facts as they were are that it was more expensive doing it at the airport and they only accepted USD. I arrived without USD and had a guard escort me through the airport to the bank upstairs and then back. Both times there was a long queue at the visa desk and one guy serving which took about 90 minutes for me to be served so try to get off the plane first or you'll be wasting time that would be better spent in town. Make sure you have the correct support documents to support the application. A couple of guys didn't and had to book a very expensive hotel for the duration of their stay to get their visa.

As for your other question about hotel. Planeta was a good option a few years back. It's a 10 minute walk into town from there along the river bank. I managed to bring girls back without trouble in the daytime. However you would be better off with an apartment tbh. Plenty of agencies on the web offer them and the visa support documents.

[QUOTE=Borderland; 1246338]Done it a couple of times but not for a couple of years. The facts as they were are that it was more expensive doing it at the airport and they only accepted USD. I arrived without USD and had a guard escort me through the airport to the bank upstairs and then back. Both times there was a long queue at the visa desk and one guy serving which took about 90 minutes for me to be served so try to get off the plane first or you'll be wasting time that would be better spent in town. Make sure you have the correct support documents to support the application. A couple of guys didn't and had to book a very expensive hotel for the duration of their stay to get their visa.

As for your other question about hotel. Planeta was a good option a few years back. It's a 10 minute walk into town from there along the river bank. I managed to bring girls back without trouble in the daytime. However you would be better off with an apartment tbh. Plenty of agencies on the web offer them and the visa support documents.[/QUOTE]As usual, Borderland is correct. It is a much better idea to rent a flat in Minsk then to stay at a hotel. They will not only help you with getting a visa and offer an airport pick-up, but it is a much cheaper alternative then staying at a hotel. Well, that is, if you are staying longer than a few days. Send me a PM if you need a trustowrthy contact for an apartment as I have one.

As for a visa, I got one at the airport during my last visit and there were no problems. However, the queue was long and I waited for an hour at least. Make sure you have crisp USD or Euro's with you. When I was there a British guy had crumpled up USD and they refused them. I had to help him out, poor chap.

[QUOTE=Borderland;1246232]Any ideas?[/QUOTE]I was also trying to figure out this. Basically yes, you can get a temporary or a permanent residence permit.

A temporary permit up to one year if:

-student.

-ownership of residential premises

-granted temporary refugee status (that's why right now you will find many ex Ghadaffi loyalists)

-receive medical care in a hospital.

-close relatives of citizens of Belarus.

-for certain occupations (e. G. Diplomats)

A permanent residence permit if:

- granted permanent refugee status.

- have lived legally in Belarus the last seven years or more;

- workers and specialists are needed by Belorussian organisations;

- possess exceptional abilities and talents, or have outstanding service to the Republic of Belarus, the highest achievement in science, technology, culture and sports;

- are foreign investors who invest a minimum of one hundred and fifty thousand Euro

[QUOTE=East Explorer; 1246364]I was also trying to figure out this. Basically yes, you can get a temporary or a permanent residence permit.

A temporary permit up to one year if:

-student.

-ownership of residential premises

-granted temporary refugee status (that's why right now you will find many ex Ghadaffi loyalists)

-receive medical care in a hospital.

-close relatives of citizens of Belarus.

-for certain occupations (e. G. Diplomats)

A permanent residence permit if:

- granted permanent refugee status.

- have lived legally in Belarus the last seven years or more;

- workers and specialists are needed by Belorussian organisations;

- possess exceptional abilities and talents, or have outstanding service to the Republic of Belarus, the highest achievement in science, technology, culture and sports;

- are foreign investors who invest a minimum of one hundred and fifty thousand Euro[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info EE.

So it seems getting a student visa would be the best option. Sign up for a Russian course, I'm sure you could pay extra so that you did not have to attend classes if you did not want to. I think that's a good idea to study Russian anyway: in six months you'd be well on your way to semi fluency which would reap huge benefits in future travels and you'd meet on a daily basis a huge amount of female students. If you enrolled in a preparatory course in a town like Gomel you'd clean up. Most foreign students in Gomel / Vitsebsk universities are there because they can't afford better options and hence are from third world countries, so a more mature Westerner with a little more money to play with and more experience with women would have the time of his life, especially if you had a car with you.

As for owning property: it's virtually impossible for foreigners except if you're Russian. The Belarus property market is also vastly over priced. Apartments in Minsk or even smaller towns sell for more then they do in EU capitol cities such as Budapest or Sofia. And since rents are low you can't make a decent return (I investigated the idea a while back ). There is a plan I've had for a while though: You can buy country cottages (Izba) for $1000 US if they are far enough away from Minsk. You'd have to put it into a local friend's name but if you then spent another couple of thousand dollars you'd have a fully 'remonted' country cottage in a beautiful part of the countryside which you could use as a place to bring your conquests to for weekend parties. In the summer especially it would be a lot of fun with local lakes and rivers to swim in and fish and a steady stream of university students looking to escape the monotony of life on the local Kolkhoz on their days off. You could give English lessons in return for Russian ones and soon get your language skills up to scratch. Just a little dream of mine.

Thanks to Border Land & East Explorer for the info posted.

Yes Minsk &Belarus in general hold some potential, if looking for long term returns.

Found this link, which shows some actual figures on various costs & prices, including rents & real Estate.

[url]http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Belarus.[/url]

Minsk must have been on the mony laundering &investment trail of a lot of Unsavoury Characters from the Middle East including Israel, as well as I am sure some honest folk, who are just trying to start a new life in a European country, even if it is Belarus.

When I was there, I was told, that a lot of the Hotels, casinos new apatment blocks were foreign owned.

When the problems in that part of the world started, a lot of cash was withdrawn from the banking system, causing the free fall of the be rouble.

I read, that even the the present Foreign Minister of Israel (Avigador Liberman, born in Moldova, and immegrated to Israel in 1986, and worked for a while as a Night club bouncer there) , loves holidaying in Belarus. So much, that he invested some money there.

For this, he is under investigation in Israel for money Laundering.

[QUOTE=East Explorer; 1246364]I was also trying to figure out this. Basically yes, you can get a temporary or a permanent residence permit.

A temporary permit up to one year if:

-student.

-ownership of residential premises

-granted temporary refugee status (that's why right now you will find many ex Ghadaffi loyalists)

-receive medical care in a hospital.

-close relatives of citizens of Belarus.

-for certain occupations (e. G. Diplomats)

A permanent residence permit if:

- granted permanent refugee status.

- have lived legally in Belarus the last seven years or more;

- workers and specialists are needed by Belorussian organisations;

- possess exceptional abilities and talents, or have outstanding service to the Republic of Belarus, the highest achievement in science, technology, culture and sports;

- are foreign investors who invest a minimum of one hundred and fifty thousand Euro[/QUOTE].

Some info on Visas & other info.

[url]http://www.belarus.by/en/travel/travel-visas[/url]

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1246672]Thanks to Border Land & East Explorer for the info posted.

Yes Minsk &Belarus in general hold some potential, if looking for long term returns.

Found this link, which shows some actual figures on various costs & prices, including rents & real Estate.

[url]http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Belarus.[/url]

Minsk must have been on the mony laundering &investment trail of a lot of Unsavoury Characters from the Middle East including Israel, as well as I am sure some honest folk, who are just trying to start a new life in a European country, even if it is Belarus.

When I was there, I was told, that a lot of the Hotels, casinos new apatment blocks were foreign owned.

When the problems in that part of the world started, a lot of cash was withdrawn from the banking system, causing the free fall of the be rouble.

I read, that even the the present Foreign Minister of Israel (Avigador Liberman, born in Moldova, and immegrated to Israel in 1986, and worked for a while as a Night club bouncer there) , loves holidaying in Belarus. So much, that he invested some money there.

For this, he is under investigation in Israel for money Laundering.[/QUOTE]It should come up on this link, under Belarus.

[url]www.numbeo.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Borderland; 1246541]Thanks for the info EE.

As for owning property: it's virtually impossible for foreigners except if you're Russian. The Belarus property market is also vastly over priced. Apartments in Minsk or even smaller towns sell for more then they do in EU capitol cities such as Budapest or Sofia. And since rents are low you can't make a decent return (I investigated the idea a while back ). There is a plan I've had for a while though: You can buy country cottages (Izba) for $1000 US if they are far enough away from Minsk. You'd have to put it into a local friend's name but if you then spent another couple of thousand dollars you'd have a fully 'remonted' country cottage in a beautiful part of the countryside which you could use as a place to bring your conquests to for weekend parties. In the summer especially it would be a lot of fun with local lakes and rivers to swim in and fish and a steady stream of university students looking to escape the monotony of life on the local Kolkhoz on their days off. You could give English lessons in return for Russian ones and soon get your language skills up to scratch. Just a little dream of mine.[/QUOTE].

Bumping this thread a bit, before it goes quiet again.

According to this, any Foreigner from any country, can buy property in Belarus.

[url]http://www.prlog.org/11756966-buying-houses-in-minsk-belarus-for-foreigners.html.[/url]

And this is dated late Dec. 2011.

But this (Izba) country cottage seems to be very cheap.

Would be great for summer parties, even taking a girl there from outside Belarus.

[QUOTE=Borderland; 1246541]Thanks for the info EE.

So it seems getting a student visa would be the best option. Sign up for a Russian course, I'm sure you could pay extra so that you did not have to attend classes if you did not want to. I think that's a good idea to study Russian anyway: in six months you'd be well on your way to semi fluency which would reap huge benefits in future travels and you'd meet on a daily basis a huge amount of female students. If you enrolled in a preparatory course in a town like Gomel you'd clean up. Most foreign students in Gomel / Vitsebsk universities are there because they can't afford better options and hence are from third world countries, so a more mature Westerner with a little more money to play with and more experience with women would have the time of his life, especially if you had a car with you.

As for owning property: it's virtually impossible for foreigners except if you're Russian. The Belarus property market is also vastly over priced. Apartments in Minsk or even smaller towns sell for more then they do in EU capitol cities such as Budapest or Sofia. And since rents are low you can't make a decent return (I investigated the idea a while back ). There is a plan I've had for a while though: You can buy country cottages (Izba) for $1000 US if they are far enough away from Minsk. You'd have to put it into a local friend's name but if you then spent another couple of thousand dollars you'd have a fully 'remonted' country cottage in a beautiful part of the countryside which you could use as a place to bring your conquests to for weekend parties. In the summer especially it would be a lot of fun with local lakes and rivers to swim in and fish and a steady stream of university students looking to escape the monotony of life on the local Kolkhoz on their days off. You could give English lessons in return for Russian ones and soon get your language skills up to scratch. Just a little dream of mine.[/QUOTE]More info on apartments in Minsk & Belarus.

[url]http://www.apartmentinminsk.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62:flat-sale-buy&catid=31:general&Itemid=46.About[/url] US$1300 / sq m in Minsk, and US$ 600/900 in other cities, like Gomel, Brest etc.

Which seems quite reasonable.

I like Minsk probably because I don t have to live the real Belorussian reality and stay in the vicinity of foreigners and comfortable enviroment. If you consider this, Next is a nice place. Had been there on two consecutive days and enjoyed myself very much. Entrance is BYR 5o. Ooo or € 5 or $ 7. You have to pay it at a cashiers box in the groundfloor. You get there if you enter through the Hotel Crown Plaza entrance and go behind the lobby bar or there is also an independend entrance from the street. You take the lift to the 3rd floor and you will be there. Face control is moderate, but everyone dress up nicely.

The place gets packed around midnight, also on tuesdays and wednesdays and the party starts. A significant group of Turkish or Arabian looking men, but no problems whatsoever and I don t understand some comments in other posts regarding this. People told me the owner of the Hotel is a Turk.

It is not so easy to realize, which of the ladies is a pro, a semi pro or a normal guest. Take your time and a drink and watch the ongoing behaviour and you will find out. I had the luck of getting picked up by two friends and shared them over the two days. Two normal girls and I am not George Clooney. What I can tell you is that the going rate is around $ 200 and the amount of beauty in this place is wonderful. Even if you go home alone, you will have a nice evening. I have seen those clubs, where people dance and party only in the former CIS. The average age of the people is between mid twenties and early thirties. I am a end fourty and didn t felt strange.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1248421]More info on apartments in Minsk & Belarus.

[url]http://www.apartmentinminsk.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62:flat-sale-buy&catid=31:general&Itemid=46.About[/url]

US$1300 / sq m in Minsk, and US$ 600/900 in other cities, like Gomel, Brest etc.

Which seems quite reasonable.[/QUOTE]Hey Jojosun,

Good find with the last link you posted. They say they have long term lets for $350 a month in Minsk, however I don't know if they would consider 1 month as long term or if you would need to commit to renting it for six months / a year. Out of interest how much are people on this forum paying for apartment rental in Minsk on average? Most agencies catering to foreigners are usually advertising their lets by the night and charging about $60. That would mean (without bargaining) you'd be paying about $1800 per month which I'm presuming nobody is foolish enough to do. I'd be happy to pay $500 US for a month for a decently located one bed apartment and with bills included. Doable?

[QUOTE=Borderland; 1250715]Hey Jojosun,

Good find with the last link you posted. They say they have long term lets for $350 a month in Minsk, however I don't know if they would consider 1 month as long term or if you would need to commit to renting it for six months / a year. Out of interest how much are people on this forum paying for apartment rental in Minsk on average? Most agencies catering to foreigners are usually advertising their lets by the night and charging about $60. That would mean (without bargaining) you'd be paying about $1800 per month which I'm presuming nobody is foolish enough to do. I'd be happy to pay $500 US for a month for a decently located one bed apartment and with bills included. Doable?[/QUOTE]You could take it on a long term basis & have one or 2 girls to share it with you.

Great way to meet girls in Minsk & share most of the expenses & fun + networking.

But that means you need to keep going back to Minsk?

first of all, those who have realized that an apartment is far better value and more privacy and totally girl friendly, than hotels are totally correct. i have discovered this 7. 8 years ago and always use an apartment unless i'm on a payed work trip.

i also agree that it is good link posted (thanks jojosun!) with the info to buy apartments and they also have a link to short term rentals (from usd 65 to way over a 100 bucks a night). i see some fresh modern looking apartments there at great locations but then you have to be ready to pay around usd 70 a night. my apartment (my usual rent for the last 3 years) is at usd 60 a night. its a two room apartment at metro jakoba kolosa with a big kitchen, big bathroom with a big bath tub (no problems to fit me in and a girl. and i'm a bit of a big guy). many of the apartments in the below link are more modern and fresher (at least from the photos provided)

i get my apartment for lower price as i am a regular guy, and at other web sites i have seen it for usd 75 a night. one big plus with the apartments in the link is wifi and internet. my apartment lacks that. (i will try to get that for next time in april)

to buy an apartment in minsk, and it seams easy in the link, could actually be much more complicated than one thinks. taking my belarus experiences in the past into the context this is my gut feeling. actually they write lower on the page that it does take quite a bit of paper work and could take long time. be aware. apart from that you still have a very unsecure political situation for the future. new laws are passed on in this secret country and they come sudden and can mean anything from irritating things to major problems, but are selldom of the positive kind.

about long term rentals for apartments they also have prices which ranges from usd 1500 a month (top center apartments) down to usd 450 a month for a basic apartment (more soviet style and 20 mins off centre. probably by metro or bus). now, these prices are only if you are on a 12 month contract. that leaves them out of range for those who wish a month or two, provided the visa problem is solved (unless you are great at bargaining). great idea btw to register as a student. i never thought about that. has to be investegated further. i am really sick of all the visa sh-te!

i returned from minsk two weeks ago and will give a bit of an update, as promised. the news about internet restrictions are still not so problematic or not at all. i had no problems at all accessing the web pages i wanted, even for business. i asked in an internet cafe and they said it was only used to block "extremists sites" (lol i didn't try any porno sites though)

belarus got hit by some very cold weeks and during my last week day time temperature was not warmer than. 20 c. quite a struggle to walk in the streets for more than 30 mins. in the night it fell to. 25 to. 30. i even got some frost bites on my ears. i felt such a pity for the street girls working outdoors in these cold wether when i passed by in a warm taxi.

still the crisis has belarus in its grip and work and money is in big need. that does indeed open up for a cadre of girls who needs cash and find the way of a sponsor to be a passable solution. i felt that very much in some internet contacts with some girls. i was lucky to find a real gem, a model (not elite though) who needed a nice man to sponsor her. she was the prime luxury of my trip (apart from two of my sweetheart girls, and one of them i am really falling in love with. please forgive me as i am only a man) my new model sponsored girl is 23 and easily ranks 9 on my scale. she has long straight dark brown hair that reaches down to the bottom of her tits (well whats there anyway.). at 174 cm and 50 kg she has the perfect model slim "skinny" body and a very beautiful face to match that. only downside was small tits (almost flat. almost). she easily passed the two finger test, which means that when she stands with her legs together you should be able to fit two of your fingers on her pussy in the separation between her legs. i'm an ass loving guy (and pussy) and often watch girls in the streets and comments to myself, yeah she pass the two finger test or nops. she does not. this candidate passed the test without any problems. i meet her 3 times during my 17 day stay and we had great sessions. she stayed for 2. 3 hours every time and after less than an hour we were engaged in nice hot sex. first time was with condom and i told her that next time i want to do her in the natural style and she said she liked that. second time it was just heaven and we had a very nice time. we started out with nice sensual kissing that ended in me caressing all of her skinny body until we were positioned in a 69. her pussy was scent free and the sight of her skinny ass was just tremedeous! what a kick! after that i rotated her (no problems with her skinny body and no weight) he started on top of me (which i like. as first position. when i know i am all hard. and can totally relax and fucus to enjoy and let her do the work that i love btw as well.) she squatted (not sat down as in normal cow girl) on me and rode me in a good and hard way and she did like to go down in the deep way in the squat in order for my dick to reach the upper end of her vagina. that is so erotic when you can go so deep in a girl that your head of your dick reaches her deep bottom of her pussy! it stimulated my "dick" in the most possible way for every move up and down in her squatting position and we continued for some time and she worked harder and harder. i thought to myself as i saw this beauty on top of me, that heaven can't be much closer.

then we swapped and by her own will she positioned her in doggy style on my bed. the sight of her skinny perfect arse and spread legs, and her toned slim waist for me to grab as i entered her from behind is a sight to remember. i had worked hard to find her as the jewel in a sea of ordinary cats and i enjoyed every stroke, touch and breath as i pounded away harder and ever faster. it was a such a feast for my eyes and my body was responding accordingly. it is such a boost and a kick to shag a true beauty as my new model "skinny" (skinny is really what she was) sponsorette and feeling her pink inner secret pleasures in the natural way. reaching close to climax i pulled out of her and rotated her and had barely time for a few strokes with my clutching hand around my hard, close to bursting rod, when it was met by warm lips and eager toungue ready to get my semen. and i exploded. right in to her hungry mouth. she sucked like a champ and kept her lips tight around my dick. it all stayed inside her mouth and not a drop was spilled. (unfortunately as it is very sexy with swallowing. but at this stage i was close to nirvana and couldn't be bothered for a second with that) a lot of tensions released in my head and i thought, what a girl, what a good girl. i was exhausted and so close to heaven and she looked up at me an nodded slightly to me as i smiled and moaned. when she realised that i was drained of my love juice she gently let my dick out of her mouth with closing lips and she looked at me again with her beautiful eyes and moved to the other side of the bed and with a happy energetic jogging style ran off to the bathroom to spit it out. my arms reached out and i put my hands at the back of my head and held my hair. and thought. wooow.

after a quick shower she came out wrapped in a towel and she smiled to me. the perv in my just woke up from the sexually satisfied mans brain and i told her i wanted a photo of her to remember this beautiful meeting. and she told me in a bit sharp and clear way, no photos! perhaps when we get to know each other in a better way. she explained to me that trust is very important to her, it is the most vital ingredient in a relationship. i told her i understand, but provocated her in a teasing way and told her that this is her plan of making me long of her in a way that will hurt me. unless i get some nice photos to remember her. and she smiled and said that she do not like photos. i laughed a bit and said, hey. come on. you are a photo model what is the problem. are you shy? she said that only if i promise her that the photos are only for me. again she asked me if she can really trust me and i said that you can trust me. these photos are for my eyes only. she slipped the towel and quickly got in the underwear, her panties and bra. i was honoured with taking a few underwear photos and she posed with an ease and suggested poses. like a model. i got 4 pics as a memory and the last one of her very nice skinny arse. i gave her great compliments about here beautiful perfect "popa" and made some jokes and smiled. i said, what a dream to enjoy your perfect "popa". actually i like that very much. she looked at me in a teasing way and told me; maybe next time if i can trust you and if you are a nice man (in her russian accent english). i replied, well honey, of course. i think you feel that i am a nice man. so next time it is "popa" time. and she replied; maybe yes!

dreams come true, and the next and my last meeting with her during my trip i was honoured with taking her anal in the end of a hot bath. it proved to be just as perfect as i have wished for and a heaven to have this slim beauty bend over for you in the bath tub and giving access granted to enter her rear end of femininity. it started with a hot bath (again, good to have an apartment with a big bath) , two glasses of wine and three candles put on the edges of the big bath tub. we both agreed that a warm bath is so nice and relaxing and romantic during these cold winter days. we slowly kissed in the hot bath but her kisses got wilder and wilder as she is is not really a slow romantic kisser. my hands felt all of her body and caressed her ass a bit extra as i knew what was on the erotic meny. i then changed position and rubbed her up with a nice massage in the warm water. she relaxed and told me how nice this is and that she thinks i am a very nice man. i said to her; thank you! and told you that a true young wonderful and beautiful lady like you gives me the correct inspiration! i realised it did not sound too well and filled in that it is my personality to be nice to people because i believe in that you should treat others in the same way you wish to be treated yourself. we kissed again and i moved her on top of me and she let me enter her. as she moved up and down small waves and splashes occured in the bath. i moved her to doggy style and continued to move in and out of her pussy until is was like hard pounding. then i slowed down and gently pulled out of her. she pouted with her skinny arse on all four, climbing a bit on the edge of the big bath as she knew what was comming. i went down and placed both hands on her butt cheeks and spread them apart and went down to kiss her butt cheeks and then proceeded down to kiss her anus. i actually like this very much but only on a really hot and fresh girl. my tongue slided up and down her wet butt hole and my anal licking went more intensive and i then forced my tongue to enter her anus and it barely did. i told her to relax darling and she said in poor english, i try! and my tongue continued to work and circled around her butt hole and could by slight force made her rear relaxed and ready. my head was focused and i though that i better prepare her in the best way for anal sex. i gently let my finger massage her anus and the slowly pushed it it. i asked her it if was ok and she said "yes" and tried to turn her head around and look at me. i continued for a minute to finger fuck her arse and then decided that it is time for the real deal. again, what a sight to see her pouty and skinny ass at my disposal and ready to get penetrated. i did enjoy that sight for a few seconds. i gently placed the head of dick in her anal and by very gentle force made it clear to her that permission to enter her arse was being enforced. she relaxed a bit and let me slowly enter into her dark hole. i stopped half way to feel her vibes and slowly started to move in and out. my hands held her skinny slim waist and i thought that if i was a basketball player i probably could have reached around her waist. thoughts quickly disappeared as i got really erotic from this and became a bit more daring and hot and pushed my dick further inside her arse. in it went slowly and my hands around her waist felt the vibes that is was all ok and she did not make any protests at all. just great, super! as a start i slowly started to make full strokes and continued to go faster as well until i can claim that this is real full anal hot shag. it was so tight but soon became quite relaxed and she even gave slight moans. for me it was an erotical dream! i was actually, in real life, shagging one of the most beautiful girls in my life and in her ass! what a thrill! life! every moment was a dream and i poked her arse faster and faster but not super hard because i felt i had to treat this dream girl in a respectful and gentle mannor. and not to give bad impressions and scare her away. but still to let my male mind and body enjoy as much as possible! after 5. 10 minutes of anal sex she freezed and i understood something was not ok and i asked her. she told me that it has started to hurt a bit and i gently pulled out. i washed my dick carefully and told her to get into doggy position again and this time i gave her pussy full energy and speed and after a few minutes i was ready to get milked. and i pulled out fast and as she knew what was comming she turned around and the water splashed and i jerked off in her mouth. i was moaning and let all what i got semen wise to enter her mouth. yes! ohh, so nice. as the bath was hot i was feeling a bit over heated due to exhaust and too much sport i was actually releived that as soon as she has got her mouth full of sperma she carefully but quickly climbed out of the bath and spitted it all out in the zink. my legs was shaking and i slided down into the warm water with a moan and a sigh. completely satisfied and happy as a man. i looked at her arse pointed at me as she bent over to tap up some water in her hands and sip into her mouth and only to spit out again. i thought to myself and looked at her "popa"; i've done that arse in natural style! well done to myself!

sorry gents, but i felt like writing a bit about my real experiences. i got carreied away here. apart from this true gem model girl my porn princess (as descriped and pictured before) was really eager to make her life better and even brought her girlfriend along for 3 nice porno video sessions. two girls at the same time for private video sessions, full sex as my sponsored girls. they claimed to be bisexual but in real was only very light. some kissing and touching each other and kissing each others breasts, but thats allmost all. during one session i got girl sveta to kiss the other girls pussy and actually also to lick it. some success there, but hard. that is perhaps a story for another time. again for all those who wish to find these kind of girls, sponsored or not, time and effort and as well as a bit of luck is needed. i have done my fair share of work. no understatements what so ever. i actually think i deserve what i harvest. not intented to brag or to make any one think i'm brad pitt or a super here anything. just what "might" come after hard work for a perv like me. i'm just a normal man who have learned during the years and have a goal to shag some really sex girls. really, i have spent a lot of time finding what i want. it does not come without hard work and skills and a bit of a luck unless you're just that sob lucky person! i think few of us are that lucky, and that is why hard work is the only way. and use your brain. the persistent and smart hunter will in the end be rewarded. the devil never shits twice in the same place so keep on working is my motto!

a girl i used to be in contact with told me that she can not meet me at all because she has decided to get serious with ber boyfriend, but recommended me her really sexy friend. after seeing her photos i got her phone number and tried to meet her during my stay in minsk but either i was busy with girls or she was busy with work and nothing turned out. sad, but perhaps for next visit to belarus. who knows.

i really got to tell a strange story that happened to me as well. i got in contact with a hot 21 year old beautiful well shaped brunette on internet and she was keen on meeting me. said and done. i knew she was an "expensive" girl to take out from what she had written me. i decided to meet her infront of hotel europe and then go for a drink and a talk. i took her to restaurant renesanse just 50 meters away from hotel europ in old town. i was intrigued by her and her beauty and accepted to myeself that this experiment will cost me a few dollars for drinks and food but it is worth a try. (bar bill at close to usd 50 in the end) so, we sat down in this quite stylish and expensive restaurant (anyway usually over my budget to go to such places. they can't really cook so do not order food there). i ordered a glas of red wine and she settled for a 100 ml rom and cola. oh, man, i thought this will cost me but i got to see where this leads. we had a nice conversation and soon the drinks was finsihed and second round was ordered. continued and even more flirty as i tried to seduce her. she showed me her passport and excused herself that she was only 18. the younger the better i thought, but told her that this is a surprise and she is very young. she told me it is not a problem me being more than double her age as long as i am a nice man. after a while the third round came and we were getting a bit drunk and i am sure she was as well. 3 x 100 ml rom and cola and she must have been a bit "piano"! i challenged her as the restaurant was closing and told her that she should come as my guest to my apartment and we can continue to drink and talk there and she surprisingly accepted. after taxi to my apartment drinks came out pretty fast and she had a big whisky and cola and me having a straight whisky as i told her that men in the west do not drink whisky and cola. a bit more drunk and i on purpose started to give her compliments about her beauty and body and she liked that. i did the "brudershaft" drink with her, with crossed arms as you drink and a kiss afterwords to approach her. it was fine and i got some light kissing but no real tongue kissing. as it was around 01. 00 she told me it was late and either she needed to go home or perhaps sleep in my apartment. previously i had gotten an sms from one of my regular girls that she will come to me at 08. 30 in the morning because she starts to work at 11. 00. with that in mind i told her that i must get up early because of "work" and perhaps it is better if she go home as i had a slight vibe that there will not be any sex as she signalled to be a bit cold. i could not really approach her. and of course one of my girlfriends comming very early in the morning and i knew that she sometimes is 20. 30 minutes early. typically for a scientist girl! but i have relation with her and good sex and do not want to ruin that because of this strange 18 year old girl even is she was quite beautiful and sexy. that meant i was not hungry though my brain wanted really to do this hot and strange girl. so i could afford to be a bit arrogant and told her in more firm that that she really should go home and sleep. i offered to call a taxi and pay for the taxi but then she refused and told me she wanted to sleep in my apartment. ok, i thought, initiative back to me. game is played. i told her that if she sleeps in my bed and i next to her it would be impossible for not to have sex with a beautiful girl like her. she got quite big tits btw and a slender body. then she told me that she only want to sleep and no sex. i told her again that if she stays the night with me me i will make love to her. after some talking and all was not clear she said she wanted to sleep and simply walked into my bedroom and lay down on my bed to sleep. i went on after her and lay down next to her and told her that if you sleep here we will have sex. i am a man and i can not resist you. she was very sleepy and did not really respond. so, what do you do? i was next to a hot curvy 18 year old girl that i rank as an 8. darn! well, i thought, that she needs to go home not in order to ruin a good morning shag with one of my girls or she need to spread her legs for me. if the latter version i have to get up early and send my girl a rush sms that we can not meet. i decided to test this 18 year old girl. so i let my hands start to massage her body more and more daring. legs, ass, and finally her breasts were massged and she was fully dressed. i started to kiss her neck as my daring hands massaged her more and more erotic. she was silent and pretended to be either very sleepy or sleep and i knew that. i started to kiss her lips and got into tongue kissing with her finally and i thought, ok this is action! hands went inside under her jumper and found her big tits. i fondled them as we tongue kissed. i asked her is she was awake and she said nothing. i know she was not sleeping. my hands became even more daring and went down her stomach and spread her legs and rubbed her pussy on the outside of her black tights leggings. she did not protest and we kissed. i then proceeded to take her jumper off, and all went fine and then the black tights. off they went and she was only in bra and panties. nice sight! i reached out and gently pulled off her panties. i lay down next to her and got het tits out of her bra and kissed them, sucked her nipples, and my hand started to touch her bare pussy and rub it. i rose a bit and took of my pants and out with my dick and went between her legs in missionary. i started to rub her clitoris with the head of my dick and i thought green light was screaming to me. go on. just as i tried to slide in to her already wet pussy she froze and told me to stop. i was almost shocked. i tried to slide in my dick again into her pussy and she placed her hand in front to stop me and told me again to stop. and i did. i lay next down to her and asked me what the problem was. she told me that she has been acting all the way and that she was an actress sent out by a girl on the internet just to find out if i was shagging other girls. what? i was really surprised. what is this! surely you can't go all this way just to find out that i told her. she told me again it was all acting from her side and it has been proven that i am a bad man and that she will tell the girl from internet. i asked her; which girl is that? she refused to answer me who it was and just told that she was on a mission and now she would tell the other girl interested in me that i am a bad man. i asked, please tell me who this other girl but she refused. she went up and got dressed and told me that she will go home. i told her, fine, no problems, that is what i told you from the start. to go home and sleep. it was around 02. 00 and i called her a taxi and she went home. she even refused to accept money for a taxi. she got me confused as i do not really know which girls that knows the girls i have a relationship with. hmm, really strange story. a thing a belarus hunter has experienced. strange and it did not make sense. and i can't tell which girl because i have contact with so many girls in belarus. none of my regular girls did give the mission, thats for sure. well, well. i thought to my self, be glad i am a nice man, as i easily could have shagged you by force. however thats not the correct way, and i would never do that. it would have felt very bad, but again confused and a bit pissed off with it all. i was close to shagging a real young hottie but got stopped just before entering heaven. cest la vie!

anyway my girl came in morning and she helped me to let me go of my sexual frustation.

to end this i sum up. belarus is belarus. hard times still prevail. i shagged 10 girls in total during my 17 days in belarus. my 3 regular girls on several repeated occassions. 3 new free girls (one which is placed on my keep list. a slim hot 22 year old girl) and my new model sponsorette and my porn princess and her girlfriend (last three includes money and help of course) and lastly one girl that i can not put in to a cathegory. i just shagged her. she wanted a sponsor but never asked for money. after that she asked if i wanted to meet her again.

i also went to club dozari, and it was ok, but not so big as i had expected. but quite fancy and modern and they put on a show. i was there tuesday so that might explain why it was a bit lame. i have heard i should really go there friday or saturday. besides that, almost no clubbing for me. (i had my schedule full). though, i have to say i love going to clubs sometimes to watch the eye candy.

again, i have been two times to club next in the past and it did not do it for me. different people looks for different things. those who wish to go there should do so.

happy hunting fellow punters.

/felix

[QUOTE=Borderland;1250715]I'd be happy to pay $500 US for a month for a decently located one bed apartment and with bills included. Doable?[/QUOTE]IMHO no. Last year I was almost decided for a whole month in Minsk (but finally changed my mind and opted for a cheaper option, Tashkent) , and contacted some agencies with the intention to obtain a good one-month rate. Around 700/800€ would have been good, considering that I get a 100 square meter in Tashkent for 500us$. But no way. The lowest I could get was 1300€ (for a one bedroom + living room apart on K. Marx street) , which was about a 30% discount compared to the daily rate x 30. And the agency guys were Taliban-esque about the price, there was absolutely no way to lower it further. That said, between 800€ and 1200€/month seems to be pretty much the current rate in provincial Ukraine also (and I guess that Kiev is more expensive).

A internet contact found me recently a decent studio in Grodno for 14€/day (located in center, daily rate, could be negociable for a one month stay) , which is dirt cheap. She evn sent me the pics. I am seriously pondering about it for a spring escape, but still hesitate as weekday nighlife seems rather dull in provinces. What you think about it?

[quote]She told me that she has been acting all the way and that she was an actress sent out by a girl on the internet just to find out if I was shagging other girls. What? I was really surprised. What is this! Surely you can't go all this way just to find out that I told her. She told me again it was all acting from her side and it has been proven that I am a bad man and that she will tell the girl from internet. I asked her; Which girl is that? She refused to answer me who it was and just told that she was on a mission and now she would tell the other girl interested in me that I am a bad man. I asked, please tell me who this other girl but she refused. She went up and got dressed and told me that she will go home. I told her, fine, no problems, that is what I told you from the start. To go home and sleep. It was around 02. 00 and I called her a taxi and she went home. She even refused to accept money for a taxi. She got me confused as I do not really know which girls that knows the girls I have a relationship with. Hmm, really strange story. A thing a Belarus hunter has experienced. Strange and it did not make sense.[/quote]I'm pretty sure you just got played. I'd bet good money she was a virgin, and she made up this story about another girl hiring her in order to see what you said. The correct reaction is "there are no other girls." You basically just admitted you have lots of girlfriends to her, which she probably suspects anyways but you should never say that straightforward like that. You also certainly could have pushed through the barrier, sounds like she just got cold feet at the last minute (something common with virgins or those inexperienced).

No worries though, I'm sure we've all had similar stories. The "get into bed but no sex happens" is something I got used to in the states but I rarely see in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus.