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[QUOTE=Big30]Dear EL,

Please read carefully. Toscana does not encourage you not to post! Clearly he will not do that. It just seems you have some problem with all the comments of Jackyo (Hessen is for tourist, PHG is bad I was refused there 3 years ago, only Babylon and BN and some other small clubs are good, his quoting of info from other fora and him always trying to impress with a limited knowledge of the German language).

There is an ignore buttom you can use! That is all what Toscana proposes.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/profile.php?do=editlist[/url]

I would not propose that actually! Your reaction on J's writing shows some sharpness and intelligence, for me it is in line with "the rules of conduct" although I am not aware of those rules.

Also I have no problems with the reaction of Jackyo. There seems to be a controversy, so what? As long as both members react in a gentleman way (I think they both do) I have no problems with that.

Why should wel all have the same opinion on this forum?

Kind regards,
Big30[/QUOTE]

Dear Big30,

Thank you for your post.

By stating I should ignore Jackyo's posts, he is stating he doesn't want me to post responses to Jackyo. I can somewhat understand his position as my posts are repetitive, but the posts I am replying to are repetitive as well. I can certainly sympathize as I find repetitive posting annoying. But at the end of the day, I cannot be responsible for what other users find annoying. This is why we all have the ignore button at our disposal. We can each take control of what we read using the ignore button. Your choice. My choice.

The reason I post repetitive responses to Jackyo's repetitve posts, is I am concerned about the "big lie" effect. The "big lie" effect is when misinformation is repeated so often that it begins to be perceived as true. This is a classic propoganda technique.

BTW, I thought you accurately summed up his posts (Hessen is for tourist, PHG is bad I was refused there 3 years ago, only Babylon and BN and some other small clubs are good, his quoting of info from other fora and him always trying to impress with a limited knowledge of the German language). Only addition I would make is when I spent some time reading RF, it appeared that he misrepresented what was being posted on other fora to prove his point. All back to the "big lie" propoganda technique.

Thanks again for your point of view. I hope you appreciate mine as well.

Regards,
EL

[QUOTE=Basketcase]
Yes, this prerogative to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the shower is not exclusive to any one body type or racial origin.

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Hey BC,

Obviously not. However on that night in Oase the man in question WAS fat and only a slob would be so tasteless. As to his racial origin, I could not say and don't really care.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Westbam]Westbam here, new to the board, wondering if any of the fellow board members have had any experience with TerminGirls.

I am heading to Naples in a month or so but passing through Dusseldorf, I have a 5 hour transit and TerminGirls is very close by, so was thinking to pay it a visit. The girls look stunning can anyone vouche for the authenticity of what is displayed on the website.

The cost is steep I guess, they say that the service is safe but do you think these girls are checked out they apparently change girls each week, if I called the club would they be able to tell me that the girl has been checked out before she started that week. The price includes BBBJ but I would still go for a CBJ just that there is a lot of nasties you can pick up from BBBJ.

Any thoughts guys

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Hello WB,

I wrote a little about Termingirls a while back:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=853095&postcount=3756[/url]

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Well, I could reasonably argue that I and my posts have been disparaged. But I won't. It's easy to start yelling "Personal Attack!" when someone disagrees with you if you think the sheer act of disagreeing is a personal attack. But it's not very mature.

I think some forum members confuse legitimate disagreements with disparaging and personal attacks.

Capiche?[/QUOTE]
I think that you are confusing legitimate disagreements with personal attacks. Calling someone a "petty, pretentious ass" as you did on the Other FKK clubs thread is uncivil and has no place here, no matter how much you disagree with him or he's riled you up by his most recent response. That's a personal attack and is not part and parcel of legitimate disagreement.

This is supposed to be fun. This forum is for the sharing of info so that we can enhance our experiences. We should embrace the disparate views of our mongering colleagues and glean from them the info that we find valuable, while at the same time discarding the chaff, the data which is tainted by personal taste and preferences.

Everyone has a perfect right to post any opinion that is relevant to the purpose of the thread, even if it does not agree with your own. You and I have had a heated discussion and recurring debate on some of the threads here for awhile. I have found some of your views to be incorrect, indefensible, overly opinionated and unfair and I am sure that you feel the same way about mine. That's fine, that's Ok, that's what makes it interesting here. Occasionally, you'll make a point that may change my previous opinion about something. Hopefully, I make some points that you can agree with.

That's what the forum is for and makes the info available here valuable and believable to some extent. We know that it's not coming from the club proprietors or someone else with a vested interest. And we get to see both sides of the coin, which helps us to make more educated decisions.

Colors of the rainbow. It's only a combination of all of them that distills into perfect white. We should acknowledge and embrace the diversity amongst the forum members, respecting them for their alternative thinking and disparate preferences. Some times those opinions don't mesh with mine, but they still deserve a relevant and respectful reply.

Let's agree to disagree, have fun and keep it civil. Sadly, some of us forget this at times.

[QUOTE=Stakeout]I am planning a visit to an FKK club in the next few days.

What impact do you think the current global issue of swine flu will have on the FKK scene? [/QUOTE]

If the last Bird-Flu scare is anything to go by, then absolutely nothing. The Girls are generally not squemish or they would not do the job. Despite all the risks, you will find girls who will remain in the job no matter what. I do not think that German authorities will take action as they do not seem to go with the "nanny state" idea as much as other countries.

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Naturally it all depends on how things develop the next few days (and weeks), how many people are affected, and in what countries - even though containment is impossible with the global mobility of today's world.

Do you think girls will refuse DFK this weekend? Would you avoid DFK?[/QUOTE]

The short answer is no. Like all risks you have to take thngs in perspective. You must take into account the following things...

1) MEDIA: The Media make things worse as they have to "sell" news and threats sell news. Therefore the reports will be made using language that gives bias to the threat rather than a balanced opinion. It is very important to the media to have a "current threat". Terrorism, Pandemic, White Slavery (human trafficing, specifically of your daughter) Polar Ice Caps melting down, Neuclear Oblivion, Ice Age coming, then all back round again in circles. Ref: [url]www.disinformation.com[/url] / Russ Kick's "You Are Being Lied To". All these threats are real, but the timing and language are all timed to keep one scare or the other fresh in the public mind, even though any individual is very unlikely to suffer ill effect from these threats.

2) INFECTION RATES: Of all the Swine Flu cases in Mexico as of yesterday, only 7 are confirmed to be swine-flu virus this year. All flu deaths are reported as "suspected cases" . Other reports are wrong. Look out for the language they are reported in and you will often see the word "suspected" or "Possible". Often you will just get a straight forward wrong answer.

3) RELATIVE INFECTION RATES: There are 36000 Flu related deaths in the USA every year. ref: [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2240054/posts[/url]. The vast majority are not connected to strains of animal / human hybrids. IF you are worried about Swine Flu then you should be still be worried about Bird Flu, which is currently killing more than Swine Flu, but has not materialised into a pandemic yet. ref: [url]http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1879339,00.html[/url]

4) DEATH RATES: Many of the people with Swine Flu who are fit, healthy and in a 1st World Country will not die of Swine flu, should they contract it. Often they will think it is ordinary flu and get over it like any other flu. The danger is they will pass it on and because of its combination with an animal flu will travel more agressively because it is a strain your immune system knows nothing about. To balance this Article, this is an article by Robert Webster who has warned that doomsday [b]might[/b] be coming. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Webster[/url] and here is a counter-argument: [url]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/29/Swine-Flu.aspx[/url]

5) INFECTION RATES: The masks are really amusing. Although a sneeze can send a virus ten meters, the viral load of the air is unlikely to affect you. Your immune system needs to be overwhelmed. There could be some benefit, if you are infectious and in a railway carriage of car with somebody. It will not stop you getting infection from anybody else. The most common method of transferral is by skin touch (shaking hands, touching a handle or desk of an onfected person). Wash your hands, use a tissue, clean your surfaces, don't bother to wear a mask. This is of importance when you ask about DFK. I think you can safely say when you are having sex with someone, the kiss will not make matters any worse.

Finally, you can have sex with someone who is carrying flu (or plague or anything) and not contract it. Its all about how your immune system responds.

p.s. If I die of Swine Flu, then I take all this back. Over to you Beffen!

Your response to my post 3889 was polite, for which thanks, but just for the record, Big30 got it completely right, and you indeed got it wrong.

I never said that I find your posts annoying.

I never said that I do not want you to post responses to Jackyo.

Please do me the courtesy of reading my post 3889 again. I thought carefully about what I wrote.

I do say that I find, after a bit of searching, that you seem to be the only person to object to Jackyo's posts. Quite a few forum colleagues have in contrast thanked him for his points. It can happen that he irritates you (I by no means agree with everything he says, but we seem to rub along fine, all is OK). I therefore suggested that you might find it more profitable (for all of us?), if you, who clearly are disturbed by his posts, simply ignore them.

I have buttoned a couple of posters who annoy me, and you know, it works. :-) (But I would add that I wouldn't dream - based on my judgement of your respective contributions - of buttoning either you or Jackyo.)

Basketcase (sorry, I can't be bothered to switch threads),

to bring it back to the Mädels, who is that beautiful, long straight-haired, slim blonde with A/B breasts at most (a straight 10 in my book) who hangs around with Timea and co. at the Hungarian couch at Oase? She bewitched me yesterday, but I ended up following a tip from Gitan, a forum colleague more famous on Youppie of course, to try Santina instead. A bit of input would be appreciated. Name would do. If I want more I'll revert to the Oase thread. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Toscana]Your response to my post 3889 was polite, for which thanks, but just for the record, Big30 got it completely right, and you indeed got it wrong.

I never said that I find your posts annoying.

I never said that I do not want you to post responses to Jackyo.

Please do me the courtesy of reading my post 3889 again. I thought carefully about what I wrote.

I do say that I find, after a bit of searching, that you seem to be the only person to object to Jackyo's posts. Quite a few forum colleagues have in contrast thanked him for his points. It can happen that he irritates you (I by no means agree with everything he says, but we seem to rub along fine, all is OK). I therefore suggested that you might find it more profitable (for all of us?), if you, who clearly are disturbed by his posts, simply ignore them.

I have buttoned a couple of posters that annoy me, and you know, it works. :-) (But I would add that I wouldn't dream - based on my judgement of your respective contributions - of buttoning either you or Jackyo.)[/QUOTE]

Hey, Big 30 seems to get alot of things right!

But, to the main discussion at hand, the EL vs JackyO crossfire, may I add a slightly different perspective?... I'll take that gap of silence as a "yes."

Let's not forget that the debate between EL and JackyO is a healthy, kind of katharsis (read forum enema, i.e. flushing of the rectal tube) type of discussion. It does call into question issues that should be at the forefront. It is Hardball, so to speak.

I for one get quite a kick out of reading the back and forth banter of two stalwart posters and quite eloquent posters in our presence. I am sure, deep down, neither one takes themselves that seriously. It is a game, a dance...and for me quite entertaining!

Did somebody call somebody else a "pretentious Ass?" Oh, good God, NO!!!! Come on, man, lol!!! That was fucking great!! Besides: That is not anything bad from where I come. Hell, one can conjur up much, much worse. In fact, I think both Jacky O and EL have conducted themselves like true gentlemen of the Debate, just passionate about their positions and perspectives to the last, each representing an opposite extreme of the FKK opinion specturm. Everything has been perfectly fine Cricket so far, so...

Long may the debate rage for the enlightment and entertainment of us all, I say. And keep those oratorial barbs flying! I'm loving it...

Sorry, I know my views are probably well left of centre...

Ortos

[QUOTE=Ortos]
Sorry, I know my views are probably well left of centre...[/QUOTE]Hey leftie, fuck you, you're buttoned! LOL.

[QUOTE=Toscana]Hey leftie, fuck you, you're buttoned! LOL.[/QUOTE]Lol!! Now that's what's what I like! You're a passionate Devil, Tosc. I ain't buttoned, just stoned.

Post-script: I just noticed at the time of my post, I wrote Devil to Tosc. He has a posting number at this time as 666. I did not see this when the word "Devil" was typed. It just crossed my mind...weird!

[QUOTE=Ortos]I'll take that gap of silence as a "yes."[/QUOTE]

Actually, I've to take a break to earn some money. Work pays for FKKs and other necessities of life. I have to give it priority on occassion.

I will reply in due course.

When is the last time any of you where refused BBBJ in an FKK club. I think it would be interesting to know since I am having a discussion with someone about this. For me the answer is never. How bout you guys?

Thanks

Fellow Mongers,

I am visiting next wk for 5-6 days and the following is my plan:

Day 1 - Goldentime
Day 2 - Pussyclub
Day 3 - Trying to decide between FKK: Samya or VillaVertigo or PHG or LivingRoom
Day 4 - Trying to decide between PT: Dorsten, Selm, Beverly, Ceasars
Day 5 - Oase
Day 6 - Palace

Is FKK Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf worth it? (E80, E40, E40 scale for each service)?

Also, most importantly, pls weigh in with your recommendation for my Day 3 and Day 4. So confused with all the choices

(My criteria are young, fit, shapely girls. Lookers must. :-) Don't care about CIM, BB, anal, or anything experimental as everything covered due to disease risks. Also, low pref for Rumanians and Bulgarians based on service, so mostly avoidable except for the few gems once in a while. More keen on Hungarians, Czech, German, Italian, Latin American. Also, cleanliness and hygiene very high in consideration)

What would you do on day 3 and day 4 if you had these preferences?

Tx,

Tom

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]
Day 1 - Goldentime
Day 2 - Pussyclub
Day 3 - Trying to decide between FKK: Samya or VillaVertigo or PHG or LivingRoom
Day 4 - Trying to decide between PT: Dorsten, Selm, Beverly, Ceasars
Day 5 - Oase
Day 6 - Palace

Is FKK Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf worth it? (E80, E40, E40 scale for each service)?[/QUOTE]
No, it's not worth the cheaper price. Nowhere near the quality of the other clubs on your list.

[QUOTE=Tomm Boyytoyy]pls weigh in with your recommendation for my Day 3 and Day 4. [/QUOTE]
Day 3: I haven't been to VV or PHG recently, but based on your preferences you're probably better off at LR or Samya. If the weather is nice VV may be a better option because of the great outdoor decks and pool area.

Day 4: Depends on what day of the week it is. Both Beverly and Ceaser's are swinger clubs and usually weekends are better at these types of clubs. Caesar's is only open on weekends. Beverly can still be good on weekdays but YMMV. I would avoid Selm and Dorsten which have fallen on hard times. If you're in that area and determined to visit a PT on this day there are better options including Mettmann, Sara's in Iserlohn and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld (although this is a trek to get to). Check out the PT thread for updated info.

Njoy..

[QUOTE=Iseeu]No, it's not worth the cheaper price. Nowhere near the quality of the other clubs on your list.


Day 3: I haven't been to VV or PHG recently, but based on your preferences you're probably better off at LR or Samya. If the weather is nice VV may be a better option because of the great outdoor decks and pool area.

Day 4: Depends on what day of the week it is. Both Beverly and Ceaser's are swinger clubs and usually weekends are better at these types of clubs. Caesar's is only open on weekends. Beverly can still be good on weekdays but YMMV. I would avoid Selm and Dorsten which have fallen on hard times. If you're in that area and determined to visit a PT on this day there are better options including Mettmann, Sara's in Iserlohn and Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld (although this is a trek to get to). Check out the PT thread for updated info.

Njoy..[/QUOTE]Thanks Iseeu for your fantastic info always.

OK, So I assume the girls at FKK Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf city suck (no pun intended) so will give that a skip based on what you said.

For Day 3, I still remain, confused.

Why Samya?
Why LR?
Why VV?

Not sure where to go still after reading your answer. I know they are all good, but for the best looking girls and for the best M: F ratio, which out of the three is a winner? Sorry, but 1 day is too precious LOL.

For Day 4, excellent info, and good to know current conditions. You recommend Mettmann instead. However, I was under the impression that the girls at Mettmann are mostly slightly out of shape, less than 7 or 8's in looks dept. And slighly older. (I only session girls aged below 35-40). Please share more on these items as far as Sara's and Mettmann goes. Also GangbangTeenies. Is it worth the trip there?

Thanks a million for all the help. It really helps plan. I hope to give good reports

Tom

[QUOTE=Davidag]When is the last time any of you where refused BBBJ in an FKK club. I think it would be interesting to know since I am having a discussion with someone about this. For me the answer is never. How bout you guys?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Never & I do not know anyone that has.