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[QUOTE=Sudsy]You don't say what hotel you're at. Hotels here range from completely mongering friendly to places where the elevators are supervised and there are cameras in the halls so that they can see what room visitors go to - and charge you double rates.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure there was a post just a few back where someone told me the opposite, that hotels in general don't care... so is this a rare thing, and you're saying they'd charge double rate just for that day of them visiting, or they'd double your entire bill (if you were staying 2 weeks and they only visited a day they'd double the 2 weeks bill ect.)

Hi all, i'm new in this forum and I would like to get some information from you more experienced members :)I'm going to Tokyo pretty soon (a week or so) to Shinjuku (most probably i'll stay at Hyatt) and i would like to know where to fiind girls from that area or near by. I don't speak japanese at all so thats gonna reduce my option quite a lot, right?

[QUOTE=Sudsy]You don't say what hotel you're at. Hotels here range from completely mongering friendly to places where the elevators are supervised and there are cameras in the halls so that they can see what room visitors go to - and charge you double rates.[/QUOTE]I think that is rare. Maybe Sudsy is talking about some Business Hotels or Capsule Hotels, but they would remind you that the tiny room (or cubicle) is onle for single occupancy anyway.Never heard of normal hotels suddenly jacking up the room rate... sounds very un-Japanese.Anyway, this is the country of Love Hotels, so there is always an option.

[QUOTE=Nino]I think that is rare. Maybe Sudsy is talking about some Business Hotels or Capsule Hotels, but they would remind you that the tiny room (or cubicle) is onle for single occupancy anyway.Never heard of normal hotels suddenly jacking up the room rate... sounds very un-Japanese.Anyway, this is the country of Love Hotels, so there is always an option.[/QUOTE]It does depend on the hotel. MOST are not worried about visitors to single rooms, and in fact some have elevator access that bypasses the front desk. Of course the bed is so small you might wish you had paid for a double (usually 30-50% more).However I have been to a couple business hotels which were quite careful-so much so the DH agencies in town told me I would need to visit another hotel in order to be serviced.If you can check in after 9pm, a love hotel is the best option for the night.

[QUOTE=Nino]I think that is rare. Maybe Sudsy is talking about some Business Hotels or Capsule Hotels, but they would remind you that the tiny room (or cubicle) is onle for single occupancy anyway.Never heard of normal hotels suddenly jacking up the room rate... sounds very un-Japanese.Anyway, this is the country of Love Hotels, so there is always an option.[/QUOTE]Capsule hotels don't allow non-guests at all (and are usually male only to boot). They also usually keep your shoes downstairs to make sure you settle the bill in the morning. Business hotels and/or smaller hotels may have a variety of restrictions. They often have curfews of around 11:00 PM, guests/visitors are not permitted (as I mentioned before, some have cameras in the hall and will charge you double rates for that day* if a guest goes to your room), and I've seen small countryside hotels that did not allow you to bring in outside food or drink. Basically, if the lobby has been arranged in such a way that you have to pass closely by the front desk to get to the elevators, you can probably safely guess that they don't allow visitors to the room.Good hotels (3 star and up) will almost certainly not have these restictions.*Japanese hotels typically charge by the person - so the rates are roughly double for two.

I like to think that I am a fair person and that is why I was debating on whether to write this report or not. I know that when I write something negative that it often affects the revenue of the provider. I also thought that the purpose of this board was to share the good and bad and make sure that we use our hard earned money for the better services that are out there. I have used AM services several times and have used their services often. I decided to TOFT and try a ?sight unseen? provider. Hitomi seemed to be a very nice girl. She showed up a little late but met her at the love hotel and walked in together. Not my cup of tea but my fault as I decided to do the sight unseen. I can talk about how she looks like but her pics will be up soon and you can probably figure out for yourself.The point of this report is that we walk in together and wash up. We start with the foreplay when I notice some white stuff coming out of her pussy. I mean it looks like white toilet paper rolled up into a joint. I thought oh well she wiped too much. I then noticed that she had a lot of it coming out and it was deep inside. This was not toilet paper to my disgust. It was horrific. This was just not one or two joints and balls. This was at least like 25 of these things coming out of her pussy. I then had the courage and the stupidity to try and have sex but just couldn?t do it. Washed up and seriously rubbed my skin so hard that I didn?t part of it is still on the washroom floor.From the time we went it to the time we went out was twenty minutes. Remember I must have spent at least half the time in the bathroom washing. Called AM and said WTF. The lady receptionist answered (I guess it was the guy?s day off) and said that she would speak to the owner. I told her not only was I disgusted but I was worried that my dick would fall off. It had to be some type of bacteria or worse. I know the girls get tested and she had this genital wart thing on her ass too. The receptionist spoke to the owner and his response was that his girls get tested and she just must be a little different down there as all girls are different. I didn?t need that statement as I think I have had my fair share of women. I didn?t smell the joints (didn?t have the courage to). Long story short the owner was talking through the receptionist and said too bad. He offered a 5K discount on my next visit. The owner knows that he has a captive audience and he has all the gaijin that use his service at his whim. The worse part is that I helped create his shitty attitude by giving him a monopoly on this type of service for gaijin. I cannot tell you the amount of people that I recommended this service to. At least he could have done the Japanese thing and pretend to be sorry about the experience.35K agency fee + 10K for love hotel = 45K for twenty minutes of a really bad experience. I have never been fucked so hard as I have using this agency this last and final time. I will not use their services anymore based on the attitude that the owner ?owns? my ass.

[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]I like to think that I am a fair person and that is why I was debating on whether to write this report or not. I know that when I write something negative that it often affects the revenue of the provider. I also thought that the purpose of this board was to share the good and bad and make sure that we use our hard earned money for the better services that are out there. I have used AM services several times and have used their services often. I decided to TOFT and try a ?sight unseen? provider. Hitomi seemed to be a very nice girl. She showed up a little late but met her at the love hotel and walked in together. Not my cup of tea but my fault as I decided to do the sight unseen. I can talk about how she looks like but her pics will be up soon and you can probably figure out for yourself.The point of this report is that we walk in together and wash up. We start with the foreplay when I notice some white stuff coming out of her pussy. I mean it looks like white toilet paper rolled up into a joint. I thought oh well she wiped too much. I then noticed that she had a lot of it coming out and it was deep inside. This was not toilet paper to my disgust. It was horrific. This was just not one or two joints and balls. This was at least like 25 of these things coming out of her pussy. I then had the courage and the stupidity to try and have sex but just couldn?t do it. Washed up and seriously rubbed my skin so hard that I didn?t part of it is still on the washroom floor.From the time we went it to the time we went out was twenty minutes. Remember I must have spent at least half the time in the bathroom washing. Called AM and said WTF. The lady receptionist answered (I guess it was the guy?s day off) and said that she would speak to the owner. I told her not only was I disgusted but I was worried that my dick would fall off. It had to be some type of bacteria or worse. I know the girls get tested and she had this genital wart thing on her ass too. The receptionist spoke to the owner and his response was that his girls get tested and she just must be a little different down there as all girls are different. I didn?t need that statement as I think I have had my fair share of women. I didn?t smell the joints (didn?t have the courage to). Long story short the owner was talking through the receptionist and said too bad. He offered a 5K discount on my next visit. The owner knows that he has a captive audience and he has all the gaijin that use his service at his whim. The worse part is that I helped create his shitty attitude by giving him a monopoly on this type of service for gaijin. I cannot tell you the amount of people that I recommended this service to. At least he could have done the Japanese thing and pretend to be sorry about the experience.35K agency fee + 10K for love hotel = 45K for twenty minutes of a really bad experience. I have never been fucked so hard as I have using this agency this last and final time. I will not use their services anymore based on the attitude that the owner ?owns? my ass.[/QUOTE]Eek! Thanks for the warning. But frankly, what do you expect the owner to do? He can certainly not play gynecologist for all his girls, and if he`d simply refunded everything immediately upon a bad report, you know as well as I do do that he`d be out of business soon. There enough bad apples among the mongers too, who would abuse such generosity.I have had only positive experiences with AM girls, so I won`t let one bad report change that. Why the hell didn`t tell her immediately that something was wrong when you saw it? And why did you feck her first, and then still demand a refund? Sorry, there is something wrong in the picture.I do expect him to cut her lose, though.

Couldn't find any feedback on Manami of AM. Any shared experiences with her would be much appreciated. Feel free to hit me up with a private message if you'd rather stay off the board, however I'm sure lots of us would like to know about her! Thanks. By the way, I confer with Nino that "Hitomi" will probably soon be history after that TOFT report.

[QUOTE=Lion]Nino is right. I'd like to know what the monger who found this place ended up paying. Also interesting to see if you get the J price if you order in Japanese. My guess is if you are fluent enough you will (take a copy of the J webpage with you though)Foreign12,000/30 minutes24,000/60 2,000 travel4,000 namingJapanese10,000/4014,000/601,000 travelno charge possibly? naming girl[/QUOTE]Well I used this place and everyone is right its slighly more expensive than AM but oh well. I paid 24000 exactly for the gir,l then 4000 extension fee for 20 mins times three which came out to about 36000 wow thats so much more expensive than AM. I was requried to pay a travel fee and didn't even bother trying to name the girl. I taked to the guy and he asked me what type of girl I wanted and both time they have sent me a very good looking girl pretty much the type I described. Also about the Japanese being cheaper. Its hard enough in Japan to find places that will take Gajin that don't speak much Japanese so one more that does accept sounds good to me. But on the other hand despite what someone else mentioned the service does not provide FS.(to gajin) That is up to the girls kind of like CB. I talked the second girl I was with who spoke more english than the first and she told me most girls will do FS but its all up to them. For gajin they are not requried to.Personally I think its about time someone breaks the hold AM has.

I am not suggesting that you discontinue the services with AM at all. I think all of us have experienced something less than desirable in our activities. I think the point of this post was not trying to get a full refund but the fact that the owner really has an exclusive on this market for the gaijin. I also haven't ever seen a really negative post on AM and therefore just letting the others know what I experienced. Isn't that the point of the board, to share the good and bad? I see post after post that people call and AM is all full for the night. It's really a good position to be in but it's just like any other service business that the customer is the reason the business is successful. At least pretend to be sympathatic was my point. I don't think you need to worry about him going out of business soon but this wasn't even a service issue or a dislike of how the girl looked like. The fact that she wasn't hygenic (I am hoping that is what it was) should be a minimum requirement. As I stated in my post, I thought it was going to be like one or two like toilet paper things but then I realized it was oh so much more. I called AM services because I was horny. I tried to do the deed but just went limp when I went inside due to the fact of thinking what my penis was entering into. I think it wouldn't make a difference if I told her just to leave at that point due to the owner responding that she is just has different type of genetics.I pointed out that she had a situation but she really spoke no English. I don't think there is anything wrong with the picture and like I said before it really was an event in my life that I just want to forget. [QUOTE=Nino]Eek! Thanks for the warning. But frankly, what do you expect the owner to do? He can certainly not play gynecologist for all his girls, and if he`d simply refunded everything immediately upon a bad report, you know as well as I do do that he`d be out of business soon. There enough bad apples among the mongers too, who would abuse such generosity.I have had only positive experiences with AM girls, so I won`t let one bad report change that. Why the hell didn`t tell her immediately that something was wrong when you saw it? And why did you feck her first, and then still demand a refund? Sorry, there is something wrong in the picture.I do expect him to cut her lose, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]I am not suggesting that you discontinue the services with AM at all. I think all of us have experienced something less than desirable in our activities. I think the point of this post was not trying to get a full refund but the fact that the owner really has an exclusive on this market for the gaijin. I also haven't ever seen a really negative post on AM and therefore just letting the others know what I experienced. Isn't that the point of the board, to share the good and bad?[/QUOTE]Of course the purpose is sharing information. I think you are not quite right on both points here: AM obviously does not have a monopoly on the gaijin market, it is only currently the best of the options. And I definitely remember seeing a negative report on an AM girl here before (sorry, forgot the name, but I remember the description, it was quite bad), and I remember that she disappeared from the AM page very shortly thereafter.

Dear all,after spending whole night searching Internet and found nothing but garbage, I finally found this Forum mostly useful and would like to give something back.1. The only thing I thought useful in Internet was the TokyoPinkGuide. But I went to Silk Road and Valentine (listed under Soaplands) but both of them refuse to accept foreigners. Actually, the whole block with more than 10 soaplands all refuse to accept foreigners. What was the sense to post in English website and do not accept foreigners? I lost 3 hrs and 580Yen JR fair for nothing! BY the way, if any one knows a Soapland accepting foreigners, I would appreciate the information very much! But please a Soapland with Japanese girls. I do not come to Japan and pay much more to meet girls from my home town or Thailand, etc. ;-)2. I did find Asia Mystics (AM) and others in the net. But I think except AM, all other services are charging outrageous fee. I personally would not use any of these services in Japan since it is much cheaper in China where I am normally based. But in China, I never found comparable Soaplands as in Japan and Thailand where girls wash you. In all the baths in China I visited, you have to wash yourself and ask for a girl after the bath. So it is nothing different than a normal FS. If anyone happens to know a comparable Soapland in China, especially in Beijing, Shanghai or Guangzhou, please let me know.3. After the frustrating hours at Silk Road and Valentine, I did find SuperGirls according to the good description in Forum. But they begin at 4pm! So now I have to leave Tokyo without a ... since my plane is leaving at 5pm :-( 4. Is there somewhere a dictionary for all the abbreviations you guys are using? I figured out BJ and FS, googled GFE, but still have difficulties reading many reports. I know you are now laughing but I think there are also other members with difficulties, but I may be the first one to admit it.Have fun in Tokyo!Rick[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

As a foreigner with usual male desires, I tend to be a little more forgiving when things don't go my way. Anyone who does what we do in a certain quantity is going to have bad experiences. Heck, you'll have that when you take home a lady from nampa. Worse yet, you could end up with a headache you can't get rid of.That said, I always pay my money expecting that there is a significant chance that I may not be satisfied because something may go wrong. The fact that I'm not native Japanese, educated in Japan with perfect language and reading skills sets me apart and I realize that. I'm not owed anything. I appreciate it when I'm successful but I'm always aware that I may encounter a situation where I'm less than satisfied. It's happened before at Chinese places with the greatest frequency, yet I still find myself going back to these places because that's part of the challenge for me.There are sure things like NYNY where I know exactly what I'm getting, where my expectations are set correctly and where even if I did have a bad experience I would probably go back because I know that it's probably just bad luck. I never go in with the attitude of a consumer, either. I consider myself a guest into their closed world and I'm a grateful guest whenever I'm allowed to participate. I take my lumps when they come, move on and get over it in a hurry.I'm guessing in a perverse way, your negative report may induce some mongers to try the service just to see if your bad experience was an anomaly or a true degradation of the service. Thanks for posting this. I know my point of view is not the same as yours but if it had been me I would have chalked it up to bad luck, sniped about it a little and then moved on.[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]I like to think that I am a fair person and that is why I was debating on whether to write this report or not. I know that when I write something negative that it often affects the revenue of the provider. I also thought that the purpose of this board was to share the good and bad and make sure that we use our hard earned money for the better services that are out there. I have used AM services several times and have used their services often. I decided to TOFT and try a ?sight unseen? provider. [/QUOTE]

I will be in Tokyo from Thursday 0ct 11 for a few days. If anybody would like to meet for a beverage or two, PM me.thanks,Mak

Thanks for the response Homer. I think we all think differently which is why we all have our own take on different services, etc. Nampa doesn't seem like you pay up front for a particular type of service. I was paying a reputable agency for someone (it doesn't even come down to service or who I didn't like or dislike) who had decent hygiene. Without sounding petty or defensive I got your point. I don't necessarily agree but I got it. If I wanted to Nampa the only person responsible for her hygiene is her but at an agency that charges a fair price you would think they would be responsible to a point for that. I think hygiene is being kind after seeing what I saw.The owner of AM called me back tonight and told me that he had her tested and she had a yeast infection. I really appreciated that he gave me the news back because getting back to the intent of the story, that incident freaked me out a little bit. It was actually really cool about the way he approached it with me.He apologized and explained to me what happened (won't go into details) and that was it. Don't know if he reads this board but I know he is in a tough position (as someone has stated before). I think it's still important for us to remember that we all have the power to a point and if you are grateful or understanding on spending some hard earned money on something like my situation..you shouldn't always say oh well. Trust me, the next guy will be grateful that I made such a fuss about this (because he won't have to see what I saw).[QUOTE=Homer69]As a foreigner with usual male desires, I tend to be a little more forgiving when things don't go my way. Anyone who does what we do in a certain quantity is going to have bad experiences. Heck, you'll have that when you take home a lady from nampa. Worse yet, you could end up with a headache you can't get rid of.That said, I always pay my money expecting that there is a significant chance that I may not be satisfied because something may go wrong. The fact that I'm not native Japanese, educated in Japan with perfect language and reading skills sets me apart and I realize that. I'm not owed anything. I appreciate it when I'm successful but I'm always aware that I may encounter a situation where I'm less than satisfied. It's happened before at Chinese places with the greatest frequency, yet I still find myself going back to these places because that's part of the challenge for me.There are sure things like NYNY where I know exactly what I'm getting, where my expectations are set correctly and where even if I did have a bad experience I would probably go back because I know that it's probably just bad luck. I never go in with the attitude of a consumer, either. I consider myself a guest into their closed world and I'm a grateful guest whenever I'm allowed to participate. I take my lumps when they come, move on and get over it in a hurry.I'm guessing in a perverse way, your negative report may induce some mongers to try the service just to see if your bad experience was an anomaly or a true degradation of the service. Thanks for posting this. I know my point of view is not the same as yours but if it had been me I would have chalked it up to bad luck, sniped about it a little and then moved on.[/QUOTE]