Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=XRatedBangkok;2034325]Lak. That is her her name. Just left the room. Pornstar knockers and a pretty face, #80 regular girl in Crazy House. As I expected, not worth the 3000+700 BF damage. But still, I wanted to give her a shot.
[/QUOTE]Ha ha. I did see her in there tonight, but did not dance many times, while I was looking. You must have BFed her.

Each to their own taste. The girl with the almost watermelon sized knockers does not appeal to me, and one time she had a big fight with Oom, one of my favourite tall skinny girls with light skin and with small tits (not enough to sag LOL) who likes stirring, so was probably asking for it LOL. Oom in contrast is an excellent fuck and likes to really go for it on the bed. She wasn't working tonight.

You should have tried the highly war painted, highly pierced, very dark skinned "Geronomo" girl Ice, sillies approaching a Dcup, maybe not quite. She was there tonight, and Smoothy says she lives up to her raunchy look. Unfortunately not my taste at all. The face not exactly feminine for me.

We all have a different idea of what is pretty. So Lak was pretty average looking for me, and the tits are just ridiculous. I do enjoy large soft not too saggy naturals though. You would probably not go for my girl tonight at all being the super slim model type. Was probably under 45 Kg at 160 to 165 cm. Very good waist to thigh ratio though giving her a nice curve and big gap between the thighs accentuating the full firm high ass cheeks.

I used to take Bo with natural big Dcups a long time ago once or twice but rather a star fish. Ging Gaew also had big naturals on voluptuous body, and was good, but she is long gone (probably has a sponsor). My two other great girls with big tits, Nat and May Lee are also both gone. Still a few girls there with really nice natural tits, however, the faces vary, and I did not even meet some of the new ones yet.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2034336]Ha ha. I did see her in there tonight, but did not dance many times, while I was looking. You must have BFed her.

Each to their own taste.(...).

You should have tried the highly war painted, highly pierced, very dark skinned "Geronomo" girl Ice (...).

We all have a different idea of what is pretty. So Lak was pretty average looking for me, and the tits are just ridiculous.(...)[/QUOTE]Yep, I did call her immediately as I entered the joint. Totally agree, we all have different tastes, and even mine can vary with time and blood alcohol level. I was suspicious about her talent, and turns out I was right. She is a grinder. I find her juggs also exaggerated, almost freaky, but nevertheless I wanted to try. Maybe I watched too many American x-rated flicks. She told me she had several breast enhancement, and she was not happy with the results since the nipples would point upwards, so the solution was to make the boobs bigger.

Yes, it is difficult not to notice Ice, tattoos, piercing and stuff. I am pretty sure she is in almost anything you would ask, the great PSE. But there is something masculine about her that turns me off.

Now most of big titties in CH are fake, as long as I can judge. Same as Baccara. But as a European, I kinda miss voluptuous breast and hips. But still happy to live here.

BF'd Moji tonight. Very petite with lovely smile. 2500ST + 700 BF. Good experience, sweet girl, eager to please. One question. Do all of the girls at CH who wear skirts / tops do so because they have had kids and are hiding stretch marks. That was the case with her, although still a lovely little body.

[QUOTE=SexInStl;2034148]It's still a buyer's market, it just sometimes takes more work than buyers would like.[/QUOTE]I'd disagree with you here. It is a seller's market. There are way fewer gals on the game then then were 15 years ago. And that is on every level. Soapies were stocked; ChaoPraya 2 was full. Bet there were no less than 150-200 gals on the risers. GoGos were heaving and at closing time the gals would be going up to every punter they could find outside the bars in Cowboy and at the exit to NP saying, "go with you, go with you?" Suk was packed with FLs. Again, you could not walk 20 mtrs without a proposition. Overall attitudes were significantly better as well.

I remember a conversation I once had with the owner of Playskool, Sheba's, and Suzi's back about '10. He said, "These gals used to work for me; now I work for them. ".

[QUOTE=Maxmaxmax;2034354]BF'd Moji tonight. Very petite with lovely smile. 2500ST + 700 BF. Good experience, sweet girl, eager to please. One question. Do all of the girls at CH who wear skirts / tops do so because they have had kids and are hiding stretch marks. That was the case with her, although still a lovely little body.[/QUOTE]No. Oom is shy to dance totally nude, but has no baby, no stretch marks and no sag. Has nice tits but not big at all, like young teenage tits. Skinny girl. It is just girl's personal choice. If the skirt is pulled up very high to almost the navel exposing pussy underneath, then 90% chance she is hiding damage.

Some girl have excellent tits but hide them under a bra. Seems silly. Also silly that they don't have topless girls unless they are full nude. I would not mind if girls wore G string but showed their lovely tits.

It's easy to check. Buy the girl a drink and lift her skirt. I once bought Oom a couple of tequilas and then took her top off. She did not keep it off but at least I got a good look and feel. It's not illegal to feel up a girls tits either.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2034462]I'd disagree with you here. It is a seller's market. There are way fewer gals on the game then then were 15 years ago. And that is on every level. Soapies were stocked; ChaoPraya 2 was full. Bet there were no less than 150-200 gals on the risers. GoGos were heaving and at closing time the gals would be going up to every punter they could find outside the bars in Cowboy and at the exit to NP saying, "go with you, go with you?" Suk was packed with FLs. Again, you could not walk 20 mtrs without a proposition. Overall attitudes were significantly better as well.[/QUOTE]Yes absolutely. CP2 was in it's heyday for quite a number of years up until Thaksin came to power. I probably used it from about 1995 onward, and regular up to year 2000, and again in around 2004-2005. Thaksin's guy in parliament, forget the name, swept out all the non Thai nationals and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls in early 2000's. Forget exact year. That may have been just over 15 years ago. As there were a lot of Tha-yai from Burma in CP2, the numbers dropped significantly, by up to 30%. I am still in contact with one of those girls who got swept out. In her late 30's now. Then the 2007-2008 financial crises decimated the remaining business, but decline was already well underway before that. I probably ended my visits to CP2 in about 2005, when it was still going okay But no where near it's peak. Subsequent visits after the financial crises saw very weak numbers and mostly the older girls that once wore white uniforms. I have not made another visit in recent years.

The steep price rises in the gogos, seem to be evidence that it has been very much a sellers market, where lack of price rises in the Oilies for many years, excepting perhaps Japanese oriented shops, suggests that sector in a buyers' market.

Gogo girls seem to set prices between 2000 and 3000. Perhaps some go lower, but presumably those ones are to ugly for me to consider, since I never met them. I still get plenty of girls going without setting a price though. I think my crap girl from Angel Witch asked for 2.5K after I told her to go home, and had not even fucked her. She clearly was worthless. Not even close to a 2.5K price. Compare to an Evita girl costing 2K that probably makes 1.2K at most for a 2 hour session, perhaps only 1K.

It's definitely a sellers market at "The Lord" soapy. that place has 100 girls and a lot of them are busy upstairs, despite the over the top prices. It's easily seen to be much busier than the other Soapies. Hard to fathom, for me, since I only find a very small portion to be absolutely stunning due to quirks of my personal taste (the stunning K class girl had a price over 6K Baht girl probably gets 3.5K of that max) . Catherine used to be a very busy Soapy for Thai customers, but I haven't checked in recent years. Girls in line up were too ugly for me.

[QUOTE=XRatedBangkok;2034351]
Now most of big titties in CH are fake, as long as I can judge. Same as Baccara. But as a European, I kinda miss voluptuous breast and hips. But still happy to live here.[/QUOTE]Yes I don't see any big wobbly bouncy naturals around at the moment, unless on fat girls. Some firm mid sized tits that may be natural. I was checking out a couple of those girls.

Yes disturbing trend that looks are starting to head towards Bacarra style, with more crazy or wig like hairdos, more nose jobs and more sillies. Was better for me 3-4 years ago.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2034049]I really do think that the punters are far less demanding these days. The gals know they can get away with poor to mediocre service and still get paid. Good on 'them. They are absolutely not to blame for the current "scene. " The guys are.[/QUOTE]I agree. That is why, at a minimum, I focus on achieving a fully CIM finish BJ or a REAL GFE in terms of FS. That is virtually the only VFM a modern young Thai P4 P girl is capable of offering due to lack of expectations on the part of the customers. Big waste of time and money searching endlessly for and expecting modern young Thai P4 P girls to deliver something wonderfully "PSE" or so-called "GFE" by pulling some fabulous sensual tricks or gimmicks out of an empty bag thanks to today's lower customer demands. They don't have wonderfully sensual tricks to offer, never needed them, never learned them, aren't intrinsically inclined to do them, will only engage in them after lengthy and repeated training sessions, if that. The vast, vast majority of the time, they only have what god gave them at birth to offer. Which is quite fine, btw.

Any compromise on that minimal standard isn't worth the money and travel time to this part of the world, imo. Not for P4P, that is. For dating regular non-P4P girls and getting as much natural pussy and complete blowjobs you can rack up, this is still a terrific destination.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2034523]Yes I don't see any big wobbly bouncy naturals around at the moment, unless on fat girls. Some firm mid sized tits that may be natural. I was checking out a couple of those girls.

Yes disturbing trend that looks are starting to head towards Bacarra style, with more crazy or wig like hairdos, more nose jobs and more sillies. Was better for me 3-4 years ago.[/QUOTE]I made my first venture to CH earlier this year and was amazed at the quality. I always say that the girls in Baccara on Walking Street are the best in either city, but CH was very close. Of course the total nudity may have influenced my senses LOL, but Baccara, at least in Pattaya, has some nudity. I wasn't impressed with the Baccara in Soi Cowboy at all. Too small, and to many girls on stage at one time. Just MHO.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2034781] I wasn't impressed with the Baccara in Soi Cowboy at all. Too small, and to many girls on stage at one time. Just MHO.[/QUOTE]I agree. When fussy about choosing a girl, it is not good when majority of the girls are hidden by others due to overcrowded stage. They could easily have more sets of girls with less dancing in each set. Have to walk around the whole stage to see if anyone looks interesting. I never liked the upstairs girls at all..

Twisters in Nana has some good quality girls, but many have multi layer bras with padding, so cannot tell if the tits are good or not. Some topless girls.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2034875] I never liked the upstairs girls at all..
[/QUOTE]Interesting. Yet you like CH. A good number of the girls working at CH used to work upstairs at Baccara.

In my experience, the girls working upstairs at Baccara wearing the school girl outfits are much naughtier and better in bed than the girls downstairs in the bikinis.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2034884]Interesting. Yet you like CH. A good number of the girls working at CH used to work upstairs at Baccara.

In my experience, the girls working upstairs at Baccara wearing the school girl outfits are much naughtier and better in bed than the girls downstairs in the bikinis.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt that upstairs girls at Bacarra may be better on the bed. I still never selected one. Could not find an all natural pretty one (would have been working downstairs if had the looks).

I don't like CH that much any more. Visits are now infrequent. It is starting to be a bit more like Bacarra for girl looks (not a good change). Saying I like CH is over simplification. It's more like I prefer CH over other Cowboy bars due to naked girls and maybe a better selection than Long Gun, Doll House, Suzi Wong. That is not saying much.

Yes we know you like raunchier, where I like prettier. Could be some of the raunchy girls at CH come from Bacarra and yes some are very ugly. I don't like ALL girls at any club. Non of my CH girls came from Bacarra. I am aware of two crap girls at CH that came from Doll House, Priao and Chocolat, and are in the more raunchy category, but bad on the bed. No big deal. I am not interested in either of them.

I have had 3 Bacarra girls that were worth repeating over the years (all from downstairs. Pretty rather than raunchy), so I can like Bacarra girls, if find the right ones, no surgeries. I have only 3 girls at CH that I have fucked in the last year, and 1 or 2 others gone. In a bunch of 60 to 80 girls, that is not highly representative. Did not try a new girl this year.

For girls working in gogo bars, I have only 3 left that I would repeat, and all are from CH. Suzie, Twisters, Billboard, Mercury, etc. girls all left the club. Some found sponsors. Other girls tried in last few months were not good enough to repeat. It's trending towards eventually having no bargirls left at all. Found 1 new Soapy girl worth repeating, and a couple of repeatable Oily girls, this year. The mongering scene must be in decline, or I just get less and less satisfied by talent available. Takes so much effort to find girls to go on the regular list now.

Will be staying at grand Hyatt for business meetings over this weekend however have couple.

Of guys with me, please guide me if there is any sopie BJ bar etc very near.

To it so that I can have quick action within 1-2 hours.

Looking forward to help and I'm case anyone needs directions in India I.

Will be of help.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2034913]I am aware of two crap girls at CH that came from Doll House, Priao and Chocolat, and are in the more raunchy category, but bad on the bed. No big deal. I am not interested in either of them.[/QUOTE]So they are raunchy girls and you say you don't like raunchy girls, and you are not interested in either of them. Just curious, but how do you know they are bad on the bed?

Went to Shark, because I am familiar with there and liked it enough in the past 3 years. Line-up is looking worst though. It's a bit of a cow festival on stage, but I see so many familiar faces. But most all of them heavier. Maybe with different hairstyles, but certainly heavier. Almost no girl there is slim, but I honestly like girls who are not slim (but certainly nowhere near fat).

And also, because CH isn't filled up with smoke (I suffer from nasal allergies / CS), I like it enough.

Got LD for 1 girl who made eye contact with me on stage and came to me, one of the few slim girls. She orders a shot, so strike one there. I tell her I stay in Bangkok for 2 years and she doesn't seem to like this too much. So in my mind I decide this is over and just let her sit there and say nothing, forcing her to make conversation as I really couldn't care where this leads. We kind of hit it off anyway so it wasn't awkward or anything. At one point asks for me to buy some shots because I'm being too shy. I tell her no I don't drink much (I don't). She then asks about BF as her dance shift is coming soon. I tell her 2000 baht (as I am still not really interested in exploring this endeavor, based on her attitude and she isn't exactly great looking either, just above average). She says 3000, I attempt to negotiate down to 2500 (this is what I have paid every girl here for 3 years) and it's time for her to go dancing on stage. She was one of the better looking girls there, because of how poor the lineup is overall. Comes back after her rotation and tells me I should smile more. I didn't know she was a life coach in addition to dancing semi-topless.

So back to basics, the girl I have BF numerous times stops by after her dance shift. Have been seeing her since 3 years for ST when I go here. Anyway, she's good in bed and has been working for 5-6 years here but still looks really good at 30 (looks 25) and managed to keep the weight off (actually lost weight since I last saw her). She gives a great BJ as she uses oil with the BJ, plenty of foreplay and DFK. FS is of course just as fine, and I pay her 2500ST, same price I pay there everytime. I can't recall her stage number (I never look at them), but she is short, light skin for someone from Issan, large but good implants, blonde (dyed) hair, 2 star tattoos on her right eye. I probably won't repeat anytime soon, as she wouldn't provide bareback. The hunt for more bareback hotties continues.