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[QUOTE=Wizard561]
Take some steps to make sure she is not doing it to 20 other guys just by being smart and thinking with your big head and not the little one. Including if you are really serious spending the US$500 to have her investigated but only if you are really serious about her.

Wizard[/QUOTE]
Hi, can you tell me how to get a bar girl investigated. I'd love to know, because I don't believe you can trust them at all.

Question to people that live in AC or frequent it. How many of the girls really leave....hook up a marry a customer. I hear from my GF that all the girls want to meet a rich foreigner men and leave. What have you seen?

[QUOTE=Mr Hawaii]Questions to consider: how long has she been working in a bar? Usually, if they are new (less than .. 2 weeks?) then it is easier to get them out. [/QUOTE]

My GF who was a bargirl tells me all girls tell the guys they are new in the bar, because the guys want to hear it. Last time I was in AC all of the girls told me they were there only days to 2 weeks. I could tell some were truthful because they were so inexperienced

Are you other guys getting this 2 weeks and under?

Last time I was in AC, most of the young pretty girls on Blow Row were not into BJs. I had a couple of green ones who really didn't have a clue, but wanted to Boom Boom. Then another one at the bar told me she didn't like it but we could Boom Boom.

Not to mention there are only a few bars over there now on Blow Row. Do you have any suggestions what bars have a lot of BJ girls?

[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Hi, can you tell me how to get a bar girl investigated. I'd love to know, because I don't believe you can trust them at all.

Question to people that live in AC or frequent it. How many of the girls really leave....hook up a marry a customer. I hear from my GF that all the girls want to meet a rich foreigner men and leave. What have you seen?[/QUOTE]

I was in AC quite a bit last year, and the fairytale is true, to some extent. I will paraphrase from the Selling Sex in Heaven documentary, "It certainly happens often enough for the dream to stay alive, but probably like kids in America who want to make it in the NBA".

I have seen personally one girl who left the bar to go live with a guy in Norway. He came back to the bar and got her one night I was there. She was the best looking girl in the bar though, so THEIR mileage may vary; But it does happen.

On a personal note, one of the girls I used to see fairly regularly recently left the bar and moved home to Leyte. Don’t really know if she wanted to find a rich foreigner or not, but a lot of these girls want a better life anywhere. That’s just my opinion though, I could be wrong.

I personally know plenty of girls who have met and married Americans and currently live in the USA. IT happens a lot more than one would imagine.

Of the girls that I know who did marry and move to the US. If they did not get pregnant before they got their green card (it takes 2yrs) they divorced the guy who brought them and moved on for better prospects.

Even a few who got pregnant, even left their husbands, but then it was those who married men twice their age and once in the US, had the ability to move on to a younger guy with just as much money, if not more.

The best option for a guy who wants to have a relationship with a pina who is much younger than him, is to one move to the PI and second get her pregnant to keep her busy.

Without even knowing you or your girlfriend, I have taken it upon myself to handle the investigation. It was a very involved process, but below are the results and recommendations:

IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A BAR GIRL INVESTIGATED, YOU SHOULD FIRST HAVE YOUR HEAD EXAMINED!!

ENJOY LIFE, AND RIP UP YOUR "WESTERN UNION" TITANIUM CARD!

Thanks for your contributions to the Board. They are much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]In the bar: "these are my best friends. Can you buy them a drink as well!?"[/QUOTE]

"Top on me" (this means get on top of her and do missionary position. I
heard this from both my Filipino GF and my Ukrainian one too.)
"I'm JAAYlus" jealous from GF

Heard these?

[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Hi, can you tell me how to get a bar girl investigated. I'd love to know, because I don't believe you can trust them at all.

Question to people that live in AC or frequent it. How many of the girls really leave....hook up a marry a customer. I hear from my GF that all the girls want to meet a rich foreigner men and leave. What have you seen?[/QUOTE]

I used a private investigation service but in my case it was Manila, on a recommendation of a Pinoy friend that works with me cost me US$600 for a week. In my case she was honest as to what she was doing for the week right down to I went to the 7/11 to buy a packet of cigaretts just before I called her.

I dont have as much expirience in AC as some of the other guys here but 99%+ of Pinays in any bar in SE Asia want a normal life not neccesarly with a foreigner just someone that has enough money to give them a better life and some support to their families. And foreigners are a much better option.

Some of the guys living in PI can correct me but there is a class system in PI not the same as in India but if your dark skinned and your parents are farmers etc your ability to marry someone in middle class is fairly remote so you are stuck with options in your socioeconomic circle ie poor married to another rice farmer.

The really really smart ones will beg borrow to get a trip to HK or Sing etc to work in Orchard tower or Wan Chai discos. Because its much easier to say that they worked as a house keeper or a waitress etc. If you read the HK board or the UAE board the PGN is much better then the best broadband in existance by the time you walk out with a new Pinay out of Leguna your Pinay GF will already know you were there and is texting you on your mobile. Even if she is back in PI. So the girls that work in AC or any of the other places for a long time their communities back home know that she is a bar girl. And Pinoy men have a much harder stand on getting involved with a bar girl then us foreigners at least the ones that have a future not the ones that get drunk all day and dont have a job and never will. My conversations with Philippino men that I know would never consider marrying a bar girl or a girl they suspected is or was a bar girl. We as foreigners dont seem to have as much of an issue with that.

A pinay I know told me she will not show her passport to anyone outside of her sisters etc as it has a HK visa stamped "entertainer" and that would pretty much kill her chances of getting a normal guy in PI.

So getting back to the main issue, do it if you want to and can afford it. And enjoy but be vigilant.

Wizard

[QUOTE=Fantasy]Without even knowing you or your girlfriend, I have taken it upon myself to handle the investigation. It was a very involved process, but below are the results and recommendations:

IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A BAR GIRL INVESTIGATED, YOU SHOULD FIRST HAVE YOUR HEAD EXAMINED!!

ENJOY LIFE, AND RIP UP YOUR "WESTERN UNION" TITANIUM CARD!

Thanks for your contributions to the Board. They are much appreciated![/QUOTE]

I think many men send girls some money to keep their "GF" from bar fining but allowing them to still work in AC for drinks only. A man is CRAZY if he thinks that that this girl is doing drinks only and no bar fining. These girls cannot be controlled as long as they are in AC and there is the temptation of other men trying to get them out to party, etc. If you want a GF, you have to get her out of bar and pay for her to stay away from AC. There is no half way.

As my girl friend told me: if a man makes a girl an offer to leave the bar and he will take care of her, and she does NOT leave, she does NOT love the man!

I totally agree!

[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]

As my girl friend told me: if a man makes a girl an offer to leave the bar and he will take care of her, and she does NOT leave, she does NOT love the man![/QUOTE]


I agree 100% there is no half way....

Wizard

[QUOTE=Wizard561]I used a private investigation service but in my case it was Manila, on a recommendation of a Pinoy friend that works with me cost me US$600 for a week. In my case she was honest as to what she was doing for the week right down to I went to the 7/11 to buy a packet of cigaretts just before I called her.

I dont have as much expirience in AC as some of the other guys here but 99%+ of Pinays in any bar in SE Asia want a normal life not neccesarly with a foreigner just someone that has enough money to give them a better life and some support to their families. And foreigners are a much better option.

Some of the guys living in PI can correct me but there is a class system in PI not the same as in India but if your dark skinned and your parents are farmers etc your ability to marry someone in middle class is fairly remote so you are stuck with options in your socioeconomic circle ie poor married to another rice farmer.

The really really smart ones will beg borrow to get a trip to HK or Sing etc to work in Orchard tower or Wan Chai discos. Because its much easier to say that they worked as a house keeper or a waitress etc. If you read the HK board or the UAE board the PGN is much better then the best broadband in existance by the time you walk out with a new Pinay out of Leguna your Pinay GF will already know you were there and is texting you on your mobile. Even if she is back in PI. So the girls that work in AC or any of the other places for a long time their communities back home know that she is a bar girl. And Pinoy men have a much harder stand on getting involved with a bar girl then us foreigners at least the ones that have a future not the ones that get drunk all day and dont have a job and never will. My conversations with Philippino men that I know would never consider marrying a bar girl or a girl they suspected is or was a bar girl. We as foreigners dont seem to have as much of an issue with that.

A pinay I know told me she will not show her passport to anyone outside of her sisters etc as it has a HK visa stamped "entertainer" and that would pretty much kill her chances of getting a normal guy in PI.

So getting back to the main issue, do it if you want to and can afford it. And enjoy but be vigilant.

Wizard[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the informative detailed answer.

So a farmer's daughter from Samar can't marry the son of a office worker from Manila?

Is Orchard tower or Wan Chai discos, bars with bar girls? So are there many Filipino bar girls in UAE and HK? So all these girls that say they are maids overseas are not really maids, but work as bar girls? Am I on the right track or totally missing things?

[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Thank you for the informative detailed answer.

So a farmer's daughter from Samar can't marry the son of a office worker from Manila?

Is Orchard tower or Wan Chai discos, bars with bar girls? So are there many Filipino bar girls in UAE and HK? So all these girls that say they are maids overseas are not really maids, but work as bar girls? Am I on the right track or totally missing things?[/QUOTE]

One of the things I dont like about the internet is sarcasm is lost in the written word......

Yes she can marry an office worker from manila but he still will have a 15K to 20K peso per month salary. I did use the word socioeconomic status if shes come to manila to work in a shop or a call centre and is earning the same 10K to 15K peso per month. So by coming to manila her social circle changes not necesserly her economic one.

If the manila guy is earning 50K to 100K because hes got a great job he will also look for a gf or a wife from his socioeconomic circle. Exceptions do happend all over the world not just in PI, doctors marry nurses but mostly they marry doctors. lawyers marry lawyers etc but they also marry legal secretaries.... its about the circles you move in that gives you the opertunities to meet people. if you are a proffesional you move in a cirlcle of proffesionals so there is a much better chance thats who will be your gf or wife...

getting back to my first paragraph.... please re read.
I wrote and I quote "Because its much easier to say that they worked as a house keeper or a waitress etc." in HK or UAE or Singapore.
I never said nor implied that all Pinays that go to work in HK, Sing or UAE are bar girls. But I did say that it is easier for them to tell their family and friends this is what they are doing to protect their reputation.
becuse I dont know about you but i dont think any woman irrespective of their race or colour wants to say, yes i was in HK for 2 weeks or 1 month and I blew and fucked a new guy every night for 1000HK$ and i am proud of it mom, brother, neighbour....

But maybe I live in a sheltered world and i just dont get out often enough to hear those conversations.

Shit I must get out more...

Wizard

Most girls whether bargirls in Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore of course will not tell Mom and Dad what they are doing. Lot of us Mongers do not go to Philippines and tell our Families what we do here. We go here for invest, business and vacation. They have a social stigma they definately have to deal with. Lot of girls in AC tell families they are chambermaids at hotel, Work in restuarant, or at laundry place. Some families know wht the girls do for it does not take Einstien to figure out the girl is sending more cash home that the positions pay. But the "politically" right thing to do is say you have a respectful job. And to make correctionas to what I am saying, Yes some are legitimate hotel, restaurant, laundry workers as well but it appeases the family by saying you are doing this whether its true or not.

hi to all,

have to catch up with the reading here...so many informative posts :d

one of the recent highlights was the 60 birthday of hans, owner of swiss chalet. outstanding free buffet, german beer,wine, tiramisu gosh im getting hungry again. sex is no problem here for me, but really good food, thats what im missing :d
next day free food and lotterie in tropix. another cheap night for me again hehehe..
after that i went to agassya and i have to admit many pretty girls there and some koreans with glases as well. met a girl i know for some time. she dont barfine any more cause she worked in hk. well i get her number, who knows, maybe im lucky :d
went to atlantis and i was wondering if ever the ugly chicks get lucky there in terms of barfines and yes....they got lucky tonight. bunch of us marines or armee guys went over there and bought them drinks and went off with gurls i wouldnt consider a secound look. bravo guys!! your allways welcome here and that was a really good thing to do and if you will detect a weird rash at your butt, well, i can tell it aint a sunburn :d

btw i stayed at central park and they have now a really good internet connection. of course when im there all the speed is gone, cause one of my hobbies is downloading movies :d, but i tested it and i got download speed up to 3,5 mb which is very very good...

happy day to all

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