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Hahaha, Blakman, isn't true that on several afternoons during the past 4 months you ventured into the Plaza Botero? I remind you that you are under oath.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2482187]What's next? Accusation that I cannot handle the truth LOL. It's not that serious to right or wrong. Knowledge..[/QUOTE]
Good post this one, factual with attribution.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2482189]Andrs Uribe, regional manager of IATA in Colombia, said today that the Colombian authorities would allow international travel from three cities: Cartagena, Cali, and Medellin. If this happens, Bogota would be left behind at the beginning. Uribe said that nothing is confirmed yet, so the shortlisted cities could change before 21 September.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2482008]I guess I need to be more specific.
It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?
Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.
A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit...[/QUOTE]Some of you buy into all this shit, be they webcam models or a glue sniffer from centro and anything in between they are all putas, my gawd people place these webcam models who masturbate in front of a camera for anyone to see and jack off with as a goddess.
And WTF needing to define what a true webcam model is, just fuck them in the ass as you pull their hair and yell "who's your daddy"! Hehehe.
Much love and respect to all but just please call it for what it is.
The Tall Man.
I entertain centro 4 times max and no longer than 45 minutes. I did.
Get a number from a nice body negra and had sex with her 4 times at my apartment. Also I did see a mileroticos girl that I encountered at my apartment surprisingly on the centro strip. But in no way will I say I am comfortable in centro. I didn't get to see the strip clubs. I confess I am interested in that just out of curiosity. I like the food and fruits as well. Any more questions Mr. Mason LOL.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2482190]Hahaha, Blakman, isn't true that on several afternoons during the past 4 months you ventured into the Plaza Botero? I remind you that you are under oath.[/QUOTE].
Okay guys I read through all your claim statements arguments and accusations Concerning the "not a scam" situation.
As a reply going to pull out this here guitar and strum a little song for you all.
I'm going to strum hard but my elbow hurts from last night's masturbation session.
"Michelle my bell these are words that go together well. My Michelle. I love you I love you I love you. I want to hold your hand.I hope you understand."
Bravo. Thanks for the applause next time I will play rocky raccoon.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2482008]I guess I need to be more specific.[/QUOTE]You have a very exclusive perspective of things. Camgirls are bangable.
Wondering if gringos are going to try to be selling their apartments now, that they have realized they can't use them? Would prices be lower now? May be a buying opportunity.
A lot of what you said makes sense, and I can see why it would be difficult. I don't understand the webcam industry very well, and was hoping it was more similar to Phils.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2481707]I guess it's been a few months since we've had this conversation.
The short answer is"No."
Yes, it is possible, but mostly you are going to be wasting your time and your money.
A Colombian webcam model who is supporting herself is taking home $500-$1000 per week or more. If she's successful, double that. Typically she's working 20-40 hours. That puts her income at 8-16 times minimum wage, up to 30 times minimum wage if she's successful. Why would she choose to spend an hour having sex with a complete stranger for the same amount as she makes during an hour on webcam?
There are other obstacles.
If she's working for a studio, and almost all of them are, she probably has a monitor. A monitor is someone who works for the studio who helps her. The monitor also reads all the chat, including PMs and tip notes. In many cases it's the monitor who is answering the PMs. You'll be trying to set up a date with a girl by talking to a guy whose job is to keep the girl from setting up dates.[/QUOTE]
I'm probably mostly looking at the girls in the middle of this range. The ones I constantly see on the cam sites charging $1.49 a minute for private, but are not all that busy by any mean. I don't think they're making all that much money, but they've stuck around long enough that they must be making enough to either live on, or supplement their normal job. I was hoping this type of girl would be open to meeting clients in person.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2482008]I guess I need to be more specific.
It's obvious some of you consider anyone who has ever broadcast on a webcam as a webcam model. In which case I'm a webcam model. Can we apply the same standard and say anyone who has taken a nude video of themselves is also a pornstar?
Go on any webcam site and you'll find pages full of girls with 5 or less viewers. Some of them will last a week or two, most disappear after a few days. If you're considering them webcam models, then absolutely, they're available. Or you can just go on Facebook, pick any girl and you've got about a 30% chance they're a webcam model, using the definition that they went on webcam at least once. You can get about the same percentage in the casas.
A webcam model, by my definition is someone who is either currently supporting herself solely through webcam earnings, or who has committed to solely working as a webcam model with the intention of supporting herself in that way. Once they reach the point where they are supporting themselves they will consistently have 60-100 viewers and will consistently receive 1000+ tokens per broadcast. That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2482008]I guess I need to be more specific.
That was always the threshold I used for models. That puts them at $250 per week. Below that level, a bad day, or missing a few days would usually cause the girl to get discouraged and quit.
Getting discouraged and giving up is always a big problem because it usually takes 6-8 weeks to get to that 1000 token level. It takes another 4-6 weeks to get to the 2000 tokens per show level. Most of the webcam models who are supporting themselves, at least that I know, pull between 2000-4000 tokens per show. 1000 tokens is $50 to the account. How much the model receives depends upon her agreement with the studio.
[/QUOTE]JjBee62 I am not arguing with your specifics about webcam models in general but I have been told that in some cases these girls do not work for themselves at all and barely see any money that comes in as tokens. I was told by a couple of chicas that I spent time with in Medellin that the street gang / criminal organization LOS Pachelly has warehouses that they have split into cubicles that they fix up to look like bedrooms and they basically allow homeless chicas to live their in exchange for working lso many hours a day on camera and then they give them some money for clothes and food for themselves and their baby since many are single mothers.
I had a cita with one chica in this situation but she did not want to go into too much detail about the situation, she just said that it had given her and her baby a place to live. I got learned more info because I was looking for a certain chica that I had talked to on FB but lost contact with her, I originally saw her profile on another chica's friend list so I just sent her a message on messenger to see if she was interested in citas with gringos. She replied positively and eventually the conversation went to her not being able to reply to my questions promptly because she was currently working being a webcam model, I wanted to see this for myself so I had her give me the info and pulled it up on the computer, through FB messenger I asked her make two thumbs up as she shook her titties so I could confirm that I was really talking to the same girl that was on camera.
What I did not do was actually send her a friend request and then by the time I was in Medellin and went to contact her I could not even find her profile, or the FB messenger conversation that we had. This girl was gorgeous for my taste and had a phenomenal body so I wanted to try to track her down. I only had the website and some screenshots that I had taken of her while watching her webcam. I ask the one webcam girl that I had a cita with if she recognized her and she did not. She said the gangs run probably at least a hundred of these chicas and they even have them catering to various regions in the world. For example the chica I had the cita with was called Greta something -in-german and she was exclusive to the German speaking regions. I never tracked down that webcam chica that I had talked to on FB.
I can only tell you that quite a few FB girls that session for 150 k have tried chaturbate. Some do ok by Colombian standards like maybe make 100 to 150 k for the day. But what happens is that viewers tend to look for fresh talent and the girls wind up quitting due to lack of viewers. They wind up back in the FB scene or in parque lleras they can be found
[QUOTE=Hexzor;2482310]I'm probably mostly looking at the girls in the middle of this range. The ones I constantly see on the cam sites charging $1.49 a minute for private, but are not all that busy by any mean. I don't think they're making all that much money, but they've stuck around long enough that they must be making enough to either live on, or supplement their normal job. I was hoping this type of girl would be open to meeting clients in person.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2482226]Some of you buy into all this shit, be they webcam models or a glue sniffer from centro and anything in between they are all putas, my gawd people place these webcam models who masturbate in front of a camera for anyone to see and jack off with as a goddess.
And WTF needing to define what a true webcam model is, just fuck them in the ass as you pull their hair and yell "who's your daddy"! Hehehe.
Much love and respect to all but just please call it for what it is.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]The original question was should the guy invest time trying to hook up with webcam models. I answered that.
However, I then got the expected responses from guys who have been with girls who had been on webcam. At that point it's important, for the guy wondering if he should be trying to hook up with webcam models, to define the different levels of webcam modeling.
There are certain girls you can find on webcam, or elsewhere, who at one time were on webcam that are available to fuck. There are other girls on webcam, who might be available to fuck, but you'll waste a huge amount of time and money to find out. There are other girls on webcam who are not available to anyone for any price.
Now, I could just stick my head in the sand and ignore these facts and let the guy waste $20 k over the next 6 months trying to figure out how to get his favorite webcam model to fuck him, or I can tell him the truth and point him where he is guaranteed success for a lot less money.
I don't put webcam models on pedestals. I can and have sat down to lunch with models earning high 6 figures and talk about cats or the best place to eat in Illinois. I simply recognize the reality that webcam model does not automatically equal prepago.
However, since they are all putas, according to you, and you're in Medellin, I'll give you a challenge. I'll give you the name of a webcam model in Medellin. You can contact her either through her Twitter, or through her webcam on MyFreeCams. While she's quite a few years past 18, she's still attractive, in good shape and is a popular webcam model. All you have to do is convince her to have sex with you for money. If you succeed, with evidence, I'll happily send you $1,000. I'm going to ask 2 reputable members here to back me up on this. Villiany and Zeos, will you stand witness that I've agreed to pay The Tall Man $1000 if he completes my challenge?
You can find her on MyFreeCams as Florabella or on Twitter as FloraCamGirl.
Contrary to the garbage too many people want to spread, not every woman in Colombia is a puta. Not every webcam model, waitress or store clerk. Just like every other country in the world, some women are selling pussy and some aren't. And unless you realize that, you're going to waste a lot of time and money, not to mention put yourself in many difficult and potentially dangerous situations.
[QUOTE=Lugnut;2482296]You have a very exclusive perspective of things. Camgirls are bangable.[/QUOTE]I'll make you the same challenge I made TTM. Here's your chance to prove your claim and make an easy $1000. You'll find all the necessary information in my reply to him.
Some camgirls are bangable. Some waitresses are bangable. Some store clerks are bangable. Some guys wives are bangable.
Some does not equal all.
Tell you what, roll around to Juan Bustos' office. A few quick searches will provide you with the address. Ask to see Juan. If he's not around, ask to talk to his cousin Oscar. If you can't talk to Oscar, ask to talk to Mateo. Whichever one you get in front of, ask them which of their models are available for sex and what the going rate is. The reply should be quite educational.
These girl do not make such money, it's typical to brag to make the " profession" more glamourous!
Anybody else see the news that international travel to resume on 9/21 for selected countries? Can't copy and paste the article it is on simplyfly.