Lisbon

Any recommendations for an English or Spanish speaking escort in Lisbon who's interesting enough to spend dinner and a couple more hours with? And who wouldn't raise too many eyebrows walking into a good hotel? Thanks in advance!

In my (limited) experience, the escorts have asked me send text copies of my check-in form from the hotel for verification. It's not a big deal and it is, IMO, for their safety, which I completely understand. Aside from that, meeting the girls in the lobby or hotel bar and going up with them, esp. When the hotel has a keycard locked elevator, has never been an issue.

Some updates.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]

Carolina Belmont was with Escort Privada for a short time. She basically gets all 9's and 10's in reviews and is consistently described as being beautiful and intelligent and does CIM. Not sure how her English is, but the guy seeming to be interested in a dinner date might send her a WhatsApp message and see about English fluency. She is a few dollars more expensive than other escorts. Here is a typical review of Carolina Belmont, translated into English from the local board.

"I was with Helena twice (2 h each time) in December 2020, both times were similar so this TD will be an overview.

Helena is a 5 star girl and it was the first GP I took the real risk of falling in love with, so it was also the first GP I called twice in a short time.

Helena is beautiful and didn't refuse anything (she just didn't swallow and I didn't ask about anal because I'm not a fan) and despite having breast implants the work was done with good taste, Helena's body was the best I've ever had the privilege of playing. She has a teen body with everything in place and velvet-soft skin, a true goddess.

In addition to everything I mentioned, I consider it not essential but a good extra the fact that I seem to be an intelligent girl and with whom I managed to have a conversation more than the basic one of circumstance.

However, perfection in this life doesn't exist so as a negative point I will have to point out the fact that I used lubricant a few times, it's not her fault but it is what it is."

With respect to two cums in an hour, you just have to read the reviews. Here is a good example of it being mentioned.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/luana-paiva/[/URL]

Luana got her first review on the local board. A solid review that confirmed BBBJ and said she is in her 20's.

"Luana's photos have been stoking my curiosity for a while.

I arranged with her at a motel in Lisbon, and she was punctual. The first visual impact wasn't the best, because she was wearing an unattractive outfit, and from the photos I thought she was taller and with a frame, but she's short. Still, she has a very nice body (with a lot of tattoos). Very cool tits and ass (in the photos she looks bigger, but she has everything in place and has the right proportions in my opinion). On the face of it she's not that pretty, but she's not a deal breaker.

In terms of attitude, I liked it, it's friendly, the conversation flowed easily. It's simple, it didn't have big frills (it doesn't do anal), I felt like it surrendered. It's not overly proactive, but that doesn't bother me, as I like to take the reins. First round we spent a lot of time making out, with kisses on the mouth, until she gave me an oral on her knees, and I burst on her tits.

Then he gave me a good massage, on my legs, back, and on my hips. It was difficult to get him on his feet a second time, but with patience, he went there, she put my cloak on, gave him a few sucks until he was hard, and then we went to the vagina. I put it on 4, I really liked the position, it's small and horny, we had a few minutes in it and I came a second time (which is not always possible; when it happens it's because I liked the GP).

He dressed and said goodbye with a kiss and a see you next time. I probably won't be looking for it again because of the price (150+ motel) but I liked the experience and the personality."

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294.html[/URL]

Valentina was favorably mentioned a lot in previous posts. Her ad is active again and she is supposedly working in a spa in Cascais.

Recent posts on the local board include favorable new reviews of Bianca Pereira and Maria Conceicao. Some previous posts a good while ago said that Bianca was CBJ only, but all recent reviews confirm BBBJ. Maria's reviews confirm BBBJ and multiple cums in the hour, and she continues to be regarded as a star.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bianca-pereira/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]

On a negative note Tatiana Souza and Anita Rocha of Escort Privada get far more negative than positive reviews, with the trend being negative, causing concern as to whether Tatiana and Anita are worth booking.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2675256]On a negative note Tatiana Souza and Anita Rocha of Escort Privada get far more negative than positive reviews, with the trend being negative, causing concern as to whether Tatiana and Anita are worth booking.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that there is some question if Tatiana is Debora Pires, an EP veteran with a mediocre reputation. She may or may not be 🤷 But it would not be the first time a worker changed her name to escape the legacy of her inferior work ethic.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2675256]Carolina Belmont was with Escort Privada....the guy seeming to be interested in a dinner date might send her a WhatsApp message and see about English fluency. [/QUOTE]That's me and I just set up a date. Will let you know how it goes. Many thanks Mongerer!

Thanks to Mongerer 88 and others for highlighting information from the local board. I presume this is all from [URL]gp-pt.net[/URL] -- I just registered. I don't see a search function, so assume you just have to scroll through the pages and find the escort you're interested in? And another question, I see all the women on escortprivada.com have the same price structure, and understand from the board that they only do outcalls. But they have different phone numbers. Is escortprivada an agency, or a listing service for independents?

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2675593]Thanks to Mongerer 88 and others for highlighting information from the local board. I presume this is all from [URL]gp-pt.net[/URL] -- I just registered. I don't see a search function, so assume you just have to scroll through the pages and find the escort you're interested in? And another question, I see all the women on escortprivada.com have the same price structure, and understand from the board that they only do outcalls. But they have different phone numbers. Is escortprivada an agency, or a listing service for independents?[/QUOTE]Different phone numbers for each lady working with the same group (or working at the same place in the case of Vecinitas in Barcelona) is pretty standard in Iberia.

The idea is that it creates greater protection against pimping and pandering laws.

However, escort agencies are likely perfectly legal in Portugal, and in Spain. Of the four groups I refer to as "shared private apartments" in Barcelona, the only one that does outcalls was at first the only one to not have a phone number for each lady, since it formally operated as an escort agency. Over time, you see the formalities be relaxed. At first, the "shared private apartments" in Barcelona wouldn't do line-ups due to the concern that it would make them look too much like operating a brothel without a license. But some of them will do line-ups now.

Sometimes you see Escort Privada refer to itself as an agency, and sometimes as a group of independents. Sometimes you are communicating with the lady herself when you message them, sometimes you are communicating with the assistant that handles scheduling for that lady.

Thanks again Mongerer 88, great info, and thanks again for the recommendation.

I spent the evening with Carolina Belmont, and it was a very positive experience. We spent most of the time eating and chatting (my choice). Her English was much better than my nonexistent Portuguese, but we spoke Spanish. She's pretty fluent in Spanish. She's educated, a university student in a field that's no piece of cake, at least if the Portuguese educational system is like what we have in my country. We had a great time talking and a great time afterwards. She's very friendly, very attractive, good in the sack, and receives the Tiny Seal of Approval.

The damage is 170 EUR per hour.

The local board had a review of Monica Melo, confirming my own statement here: she has a mouth full of brown teeth, smells like an ashtray, and the skin on a heavy smoker in her early 30's. Her attitude is very mixed, and it entirely possible she is a drug addict. Like that guy, I just wanted it over and for her to go away.

The most disappointing thing about this encounter is it points out how EP, as an agency, doesn't actually have any standards. Heretofore, they have had some bad performers, but none were actually rated as nasty by anyone, anywhere. And then came Ms. Melo.

The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have patronized Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick!

Has anyone experience of this spa and whether their girls provide extra services?

I am staying at the doubletree next week and they are only 4 minutes walk away.

[URL]https://lisbon-massage.com/en/[/URL]

Hi there.

Anyone of you can do a short list of Lisbon top nuru spa with the website links Please?

Is 120€ 40 minutes for a relaxing massage (sex included) is a fair Price?

Thank you all for sharing valuable information you guys are doing an Amazing job.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2676245]The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick![/QUOTE]Follow up. The dots were connected by others and she made that slide. Ugh 🤢.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2676245]The local board had a review of Monica Melo, confirming my own statement here: she has a mouth full of brown teeth, smells like an ashtray, and the skin on a heavy smoker in her early 30's. Her attitude is very mixed, and it entirely possible she is a drug addict. Like that guy, I just wanted it over and for her to go away.

The most disappointing thing about this encounter is it points out how EP, as an agency, doesn't actually have any standards. Heretofore, they have had some bad performers, but none were actually rated as nasty by anyone, anywhere. And then came Ms. Melo.

The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have patronized Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick![/QUOTE]This is why we need reviews, good and bad, and multiple reviews of each lady in an escort-oriented market like Lisbon. Averages matter, and being able to see if a reviewer has liked other ladies the reader of the review has previously seen, is a big deal.

The marketing concept of branding has surprisingly never mattered for most escort groups. I had a Montreal agency send me a Latina Babe and a hideous beast once. The hideous beast gave me a spectacular BBBJTC while I made out with the Latina. But I wanted to have vaginal intercourse with the Latina for the second cum, and the hideous beast was so talkative and distracting that I could only maintain an erection if I made her go wait in the hotel lobby. I felt like an asshole for days.

Another time in Buenos Aires, an agency sent me a dead ringer for Phoebe Cates in her Fast Times at Ridgemont High days. I was elated since she fucked like only the character Brad in that movie could have imagined her doing in the bathroom scene. I booked with them the next night and they sent me the skankiest girl I have ever been with. Skin rashes and everything. Honest to God, she stole the toilet paper from the hotel when she left.

No one can reconcile these things. EP has mostly top talent, in my opinion. But there are some exceptions within their group.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2675621] escort agencies are likely perfectly legal in Portugal[/QUOTE]No, they're not. Sex work is legal. As a matter of fact, not legal nor illegal since there is no legislation concerning it. But agencies, spas, clinicas, incur in criminal liability for pimping.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2676750]No, they're not. Sex work is legal. As a matter of fact, not legal nor illegal since there is no legislation concerning it. But agencies, spas, clinicas, incur in criminal liability for pimping.[/QUOTE]You have to keep in mind that you are often conversing with USA Guys where we live in a grey world.

Sex work is illegal in the USA, but we have escorts and some escort agencies. The escort agency argues that it does not engage in prostitution or pimping because it merely introduces people, which is legal as a dating-style service. Escorts, whether independent or agency, charge by the hour in the USA It is legal to exchange time and companionship for money in the USA, just not legal to exchange money for sex. Women are free to legally consent to sex while selling time and companionship. And of course it is difficult for law enforcement to prove that sex even occurred. And we have websites where guys write reviews of ladies, but those reviews are specified as acts of creative fictional writing.

The same fundamental arguments exist in legal structures where the actual act of prostitution is actually legal, but pimping / pandering is illegal. The agency, spa, or clinica just can't cross the line into pimping / pandering. So you see various techniques designed to separate them from any commercial sex act, including facilitating the sex act. So you see a phone number for each lady in some situations, statements on websites like Nuru Spa that no sex occurs during massages, no supposed availability of line-ups when several ladies share a space and stay at the facility between appointments, etc.

Those of us from countries where everything associated with commercial sex is illegal understand that some things can't be spelled out online, and a person has to "jump the fence" from time to time. Commercial sex might be available at a spa even if the website says otherwise (especially if words like nuru or erotic appear on the website). I once had a great commercial sex experience in Bangkok in a little room with a sign in English and in Thai that said Vice Activities Prohibited. I guess what we did in that room wasn't a vice activity.

The guys who have the most trouble understanding this stuff are those who primarily do this in Germany. There don't seem to be any fences to jump over in Germany, except now the upsell now often paid for the prohibited BBBJ.