Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=AvailableForMe;1631755]Hi all,

I'm planning a couple of trips that may not involve overnight stays. I am interested in the VIP card but have not been able to find anyone on here that has it and uses it.[/QUOTE]I think most of the HK regulars have it. For the way I use it, a 2 or 3 day stay is just about the break even point. The HK website should tell the specific benefits. For me, the key things are:

* Free first drink each day. Save about $4 per day.

* Longer time in short term rooms (I think non-VIPs get 30 minutes but VIPs get 45 minutes).

* Limo to border. Save about $5 per trip to USA. I tip the limo driver much better than I tip the cab driver, so, it really doesn't save me that whole $5.

* 20% discount in Cascadas rooms for overnight stay. Save about $10+ per day. Save more if you get something better than the standard room.

* In and out without buying a beer at the door (weekend evenings). This is important to me because I tend to wander from place to place.

The other VIP benefits are meaningless to me.

I was there yesterday (Saturday) and there was a girl dancing on both small stage and then the main stage. She has a great ass / legs, long natural hair (as opposed to.

Extentions). Her face isn't that attractive. I invited her for a drink and then possibly more but she gets to the table and has ZERO personality and orders water. WTF? I ask how much to go arriba and she says $100. I have to say I am a pretty good looking guy (at least I think and usually score at the most $70 for the hottest of the hot. I try to bargain to $80 but she was stuck on $100. She didn't even finish her water and I sent her away. What a waste!

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1631898]I was there yesterday (Saturday) and there was a girl dancing on both small stage and then the main stage. She has a great ass / legs, long natural hair (as opposed to.

Extentions). Her face isn't that attractive. I invited her for a drink and then possibly more but she gets to the table and has ZERO personality and orders water. WTF? I ask how much to go arriba and she says $100. I have to say I am a pretty good looking guy (at least I think and usually score at the most $70 for the hottest of the hot. I try to bargain to $80 but she was stuck on $100. She didn't even finish her water and I sent her away. What a waste![/QUOTE]I've seen her too. She's a waste of time.

Mark, p. Greg. M.

They pretty much took a shit on my 2nd favorite club (playboy being 1st). Anyways I got a theory about this. Either they are gay and was forced to go the HK, or couldn't find the tranny streets that they so desired! Or they are chics with guy avatars. Any way it goes down we need to keep the hit counter hovering around 1-2 stars to throw off the misses / wives.

Agree or disagree?

Oh and I have had a HK VIP card since they started them and was $50 for 6 months! Greedy bastards, LOL.

So after getting about 4 hours of sleep, my internal east coast alarm went off to wake up. Shit. Its 5 am, and I'm awake. What the hell am I supposed to do now. Oh wait. I'm in Tijuana! Let's go find someone to grope. Dressed and down the stairs. Yep. Still dark and dirty streets, but slightly less full of beggars, chicas, and their ilk. I slipped into HK and ran into mesero #187 from last night. He treated us well last night, but was leaving. He handed me off to #127. Equally nice guy who brought me a water and let me be.

I'm watching the girl on center stage and my eyes wander to two separate groups of guys with their chicas still ripping it up (I remember both groups from about 6 hours ago). The girl on stage gets down and I see trouble brewing. One guy has been on this chica all night and it looks like HE's got that "I'm in love with a stripper" song playing in his head. Another guy from the second group seems to have also grown attached to sexy stripper girl and moves over to congratulate her on her aerobatic maneuvering. Lover boy appears to not like this and jumps into what looked like an old school fisticuffs stance. What? Security is on the scene immediately and that's when I see a gorgeous Cubana break off from the second group, moving to my table.

Her name was Yadira, and she apparently wasn't having any of that mess and I apparently looked like more civilized company. Long, dark curly hair, gorgeous expressive full lips, enhanced ass and tits. She had that passionate, devilish look to her that I cannot resist. Ficha was purchased, and the games began. Hands went down my shorts, DFK (requirement for me) commenced, and by the time her beer arrived, she virtually had Dante Jr in hand and my fingers inserted between her legs. Paid for her drink, and she proceeded to do things with her bottle that have to be illegal in multiple countries. Her English was passable and she apparently spoke retarded monkey babble which is what mi espanol sounds like. Since she pretty much fucked me once already at the table, we departed for my room with a $80 half hour agreement.

I stop at the desk to buy a condom and she says to get two or three. Huh? Maybe she wants to change out between fucking and sucking? In the room I find out why. The half hour half and half turns into something more along the lines of nearly 2 hours of her licking and sucking every inch of my body and then SHE fucked ME, not the other way around. I've had many sexual encounters, but I've never been fucked with that amount of passionate hunger. After, instead of departing, we filled up the jacuzzi and continued feeling each other up. She told me that she was watching me in the bar and figured that since I was nursing a water bottle, I was there for sexo and not to get drunk. She was right on point!

In the end, she only wanted $80, and I tipped a well deserved additional $20. I found out that she was ending her shift at HK and was heading home after me. We exchanged digits and agreed to hook up again before I leave.

Lessons learned:

The early bird gets the chica coming off night shift.

Cubanas fuck like their lives depend on it.

Don't sneer at the guy drinking water at the bar. HE might be getting loco sexo later!

From all the reports here, I suspected that I would have difficulty with the Meseros pestering me for drinks. Yes, they are persistent and can be annoying at first, but I quickly discovered that I am free to absolutely ignore them completely. I just pretended like I couldn't hear or see them.

Here is my summary of all of the Mesero tactics I observed:

(1) Gesticulate wildly when a guest enters the club. A preferred mesero tactic is to confidently wave their arm and point in a some definite direction as if they are supposed to guide you to a seating location. This supposedly lays their claim on you, sort of like a dog peeing on something to mark his territory. I imagine that this confident gesturing is supposed to trick you into thinking that this practice is normal procedure to encourage interaction with you and for you to order a drink from them. I simply ignored them when they did this and walked past them.

(2) The Meseros will follow you around incessantly, waiting for you to stop so they can ask you if you want a drink. If you keep walking around, they will eventually tire of following you and move on to their next prey. They usually tire of following me after about the time I've covered about 1. 5 times the length of the club.

(3) When you do eventually stop, they approach you to ask you what you want to drink. I simply ignore them (literally) and they eventually go away. Sometimes if I'm feeling in an especially good mood, I will smile and simply say gracias, but usually I just flat out ignored them.

(4) Sometimes when I am not moving, they will flash the backside of their drink tray at me. The tray backside has their appetizer menu. They also have a more full menu they can bring you. I never ordered anything there. I have never seen anyone eating food there. They really love to do this when you're sitting with a chica. Again, I simply ignored them. My chica would attempt to point out that the Mesero was trying to speak to me,. I would simply explain to her that I speak to Meseros when I want to speak to Meseros, not when they want to speak to me. That seemed to satisfy my chicas.

Eventually, my tactic of ignoring the meseros paid off. I suspect that they started to recognize me and stopped hassling me as often probably because it is no fun going up to some dude who just ignores you. If it doesn't pay to bother a guy and you know you're not getting a tip, why waste your time? Yes, they still sometimes bugged me after a couple days, but much less than when I first arrived.

It seems that there is some sort of rule though that you must buy a drink for a girl when she is sitting with you (or so my chicas seemed to think). As soon as I was talking with a girl, a Mesero would show up in literally seconds to take our order. So, I would let her order a drink and the funny thing is that 5 more Meseros would show up in the meantime while we were waiting on her drink and my chica would have to explain to each Mesero that we already ordered a drink (because I would ignore the each Mesero and not even acknowledge them).

In my case, I almost never ordered myself a drink (except when I needed some caffeine). In fact, everyone seemed satisfied with me not drinking when I ordered my chica a drink. I probably saved a ton of cash by not always ordering myself a drink when my chica ordered a drink. Hell, I wasn't thirsty, so why order a stupid drink for myself, which would just be a waste of money?

I learned talking to my chicas that the girl gets $3 back from the $10 girl drinks (via her ticket she gets from the Mesero that she can later redeem). I never tested this, but I suspect I would have been better off simply finding out what she wanted to drink, ordering that drink for myself for only $5, giving my drink to my chica along with the $5 I saved. I would still end up paying the same, $10, but my chica would get $2 more than she would otherwise.

I suspect that I really didn't have to buy my chicas drinks at all and that I could have simply refused to buy her drinks but I did not test this theory. I know all the advice about not wanting to come off like a cheapskate with the girls, but this wasn't a concern in my case with the chicas I was spending multiple hours a day with. The chicas I ended up staying with seemed quite happy with our arrangements, and I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't have batted an eye lash over me being ludicrous with the whole chica drink thing. I mean, what is my chica going to do if I refuse to buy her a drink if she knows that I'm going upstairs with her in 10 minutes anyways? I doubt she would say, "Well, I can't sit with you, so I have to go stand over there until you're ready to go upstairs. " I doubt that, although to be fair, I never tested my theory. I will have to test this next time, because those drinks add up and I don't really want to waste all that money on drinks when neither my chica nor I are really want a drink in the first place.

I know a lot of people say to be nice to the meseros because they can be useful with info. But I'm so picky with Latinas to begin with and the club has less than 5 girls in the whole place who interest me enough to go to the room. So, I certainly don't need the meseros to point out which 3-5 girls in the club appeal to me. My dick already knows who those 3-5 girls are and trust me, my dick never hesitates to make his preferences known to me.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1635276]
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It seems that there is some sort of rule though that you must buy a drink for a girl when she is sitting with you (or so my chicas seemed to think).

I learned talking to my chicas that the girl gets $3 back from the $10 girl drinks (via her ticket she gets from the Mesero that she can later redeem). I never tested this, but I suspect I would have been better off simply finding out what she wanted to drink, ordering that drink for myself for only $5, giving my drink to my chica along with the $5 I saved. I would still end up paying the same, $10, but my chica would get $2 more than she would otherwise.

I suspect that I really didn't have to buy my chicas drinks at all and that I could have simply refused to buy her drinks but I did not test this theory. I doubt she would say, "Well, I can't sit with you, so I have to go stand over there until you're ready to go upstairs. " [/QUOTE]The chica can't sit with you unless you buy a drink. If a chica sits with you long enough and you refuse enough meseros, eventually one of them will tattle on her to the mgr. The mgr will then come over and tell her to leave you unless you buy a drink. And if she takes too long to drink it, well, the process starts over again. She will get tattled on for drinking too slow and get in trouble. The chica drinks are $8 usually and from what I've heard they get $30 mn per drink. Bottles of water and energy drinks are $20 or so, and they get double fichas for those. A chica cannot drink a non-ficha drink. No chica in there is dumb enough to drink a 12 oz beer or other obvious non-ficha drink. I've had cases where an extremely drunk chica, barely conscious, wants water. One or two times I ordered her a bottle of water and was charged $20. Then I learned and ordered it for myself and paid $4 for the exact same bottle.

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;1635344]The chica can't sit with you unless you buy a drink. [/QUOTE]Fuck the chica, the meseros and the manager. When I go to HK I wander around in circles, pausing to place dollar bills between cleavages and into g-strings, firmly telling meseros to go away. I only buy drinks if I am thirsty. I find what I want, go arriba, take some fotos doing the busty chica, kiss her and wander around some more between HK, Adelitas or wherever. Don't let these muchachos push you around. Be firm. Geez. I go there once every two or three months while in SD on business and this is what I do.

[QUOTE=DCups;1635348]Fuck the chica, the meseros and the manager....Don't let these muchachos push you around. Be firm. Geez. I go there once every two or three months while in SD on business and this is what I do.[/QUOTE]Trust me, I'm not getting pushed around in there. I was just stating the rules and what I've been told and seen. I fuckin' HATE meseros. And I've pissed off more than my share.

I agree. There is some sort of minimum drink rule if you want to sit with a girl. And it's up to the fucking waiters. They will tell the girls to move on if they (waiters) don't get their drinks.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1635488]I agree. There is some sort of minimum drink rule if you want to sit with a girl. And it's up to the fucking waiters. They will tell the girls to move on if they (waiters) don't get their drinks.[/QUOTE]Yes, then move on or go arriba with them. Two can play their stupid game.

Let me interrupt this dick-measuring contest for just a second.

The ownership's objective is to extract every dollar they can from gringos, they are not in business to provide a free hookup site. Therfore, the girls in these clubs have a ficha quota to meet. Rules vary by club; I've heard everything from the girl coming out-of-pocket if she fails to meet the quota, to being forbidden to go arriba until the quota is met, etc. , etc. The point is that you aren't necessarily doing the girl any favors by refusing to buy her a drink. Most of the big spenders here can afford to part with a Jackson for a couple of fichas.

Now, the treatment of the customers by the meseros is another thing entirely.

OK. You may now resume. :D

Besides the ficha requirement for the chicas, we also have to buy drinks. I have been kicked out twice for not having a drink while standing still. If you are moving then I think that is pretty safe but if you are standing still or sitting at a table then the meseros can ask you to leave if you don't have a drink.

[QUOTE=Jackie888;1635488]I agree. There is some sort of minimum drink rule if you want to sit with a girl. And it's up to the fucking waiters. They will tell the girls to move on if they (waiters) don't get their drinks.[/QUOTE]This is partially true. Truth is, there is absolutely nothing the waiters can do if the chica doesn't listen to them. The meseros have no authority over the chicas. The only thing meseros can do is tattle to the mgr, who will then come and tell the chica to leave the table or drink faster or get the guy to buy a drink. One time, late in 2012, I was just about to start an OTC relationship with a blonde flakita from Vallerta. I went to HK to chat and was buying fichas all night for her. The mesero thought I was hooked and came around with the menu. We both told him "no" several times but HE kept shoving the menu in her face. Finally I got loud with him and told him to "get the fuck out of here. " At that point her ficha was empty and HE asked if I wanted to buy another ficha. I told him "no" then immediately flagged down another mesero to order a ficha right in front of him. HE was so pissed off HE grabbed the chica's hand and tried to take her away. She wouldn't budge. And she was a newbie too. Don't be afraid of these piece of shit meseros they can't do shit besides tattle to the mgr.

[QUOTE=JPF;1635597]Besides the ficha requirement for the chicas, we also have to buy drinks. I have been kicked out twice for not having a drink while standing still. If you are moving then I think that is pretty safe but if you are standing still or sitting at a table then the meseros can ask you to leave if you don't have a drink.[/QUOTE]Your experience surprises me. I was standing still plenty of times by myself and I completely ignored every mesero who approached me. No one ever suggested that I was in any way *required* to buy a drink.

If they told me this, I would have asked to speak to a manager. I bought a VIP card and no one ever told me that I was also required to buy drinks nor did I ever see a sign saying such.

If they did this to me, then I would engage in wasting time strategies to make it unpleasant to approach me. "May I see a menu please?" They flash their menu to me on the back of the tray. "Oh, what is this? Is there tomato in that? What about this? Does this taste good? Is this vegetarian? Is this tortilla made of corn or wheat? How long will it take to make this? Which is the fastest prepared dish here?" Then, sit there cogitating awhile. Nod head back and forth in a very pensive manner. Think long and hard. "Is that all you have? Oh, you have a full menu? May I see the full menu please?" Mesero fetches full menu from bar. Carefully read full menu. Ask lots of questions. "How much is that? No, but in pesos. " Pull out phone calculator app to perform intricate calculations to determine which is better for you, dollars or pesos.

Then, "No, on second thought, I'm going to go to the bathroom now. Maybe later. Gracias. Yes, yes, I order later. I go [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] now. Thanks!" The permutations on this theme are endless and only limited by one's imagination.

But then again, I enjoy playing the system and seeing what I can get away with. Maybe I will be kicked out of Hong Kong one day and maybe they will post a picture at the front desk that says never let this guy in the club again. LOL.