[QUOTE=TankTank123;1747774]Would this be Oana?[/QUOTE]Sounds like Oana. She never set her sights below the financial stars. Asked me for 8000, for starters. The result was that my sessions with her got fewer and fewer.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1747774]Would this be Oana?[/QUOTE]Sounds like Oana. She never set her sights below the financial stars. Asked me for 8000, for starters. The result was that my sessions with her got fewer and fewer.
Faceless.Burning money. I know a worker who is now retired but was one of the top earners over a period of say three years. She didn't save in the good times and is now downsizing housing to make ends meet.
Another girl saved carefully to build up her next career and after hard work and a lot of difficulty has built a new life, and has a partner.
Two outcomes from the same earnings.
As for the job not being pleasant. Some girls really like the job as it can give independence and they like it better than even well paid normal jobs. They like the adoration of customers amongst other things
[QUOTE=Optimist;1747924]Sounds like Oana. She never set her sights below the financial stars. Asked me for 8000, for starters. The result was that my sessions with her got fewer and fewer.[/QUOTE]In about two dozen sessions she never asked me for money. Well, not besides the standard price for the time we spent. LOL. Guess she knew I'm a cheapskate.
HB.
HB, I obviously look to be very soft :D
Jnpr30. Which Roxana?
I meant, Roxana of Sharks, lately of sillies.
But from what many people say here, apparently 800 a day is not that big of a deal, definitely not on busy weekends for the popular girls like Sandra. Heck, I have myself given 300 to 350 for a couple of separate 60 or 90 min sessions, with an extra thrown in. And the girl still had several hours to make money from the other punters.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1747929]Jnpr30. Which Roxana?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1747949]I meant, Roxana of Sharks, lately of sillies.
But from what many people say here, apparently 800 a day is not that big of a deal, definitely not on busy weekends for the popular girls like Sandra. Heck, I have myself given 300 to 350 for a couple of separate 60 or 90 min sessions, with an extra thrown in. And the girl still had several hours to make money from the other punters.[/QUOTE]800 per day is not a big deal to the girls. Maybe to some but not to others especially when it is the weekend.
Midweek it is more of a proposition for that type of cold hard cash.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1748264]800 per day is not a big deal to the girls. Maybe to some but not to others especially when it is the weekend.
[/QUOTE]Not so sure about that. 800€ per day as an average is a lot. There's plenty of girls hardly making their entry from Monday to Thursday. So if a girl is working five days a week from Tuesday to Saturday, making 400 on Tuesday, 500 on Wednesday, 600 on Thursday she needs to make 1250 on Friday and Saturday. That's maybe the the top 25% in a club, just a wild guess.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1748271]Not so sure about that. 800 per day as an average is a lot. There's plenty of girls hardly making their entry from Monday to Thursday. So if a girl is working five days a week from Tuesday to Saturday, making 400 on Tuesday, 500 on Wednesday, 600 on Thursday she needs to make 1250 on Friday and Saturday. That's maybe the the top 25% in a club, just a wild guess.
HB.[/QUOTE]It must also vary a lot if girl are working only day shift, which I assume give a lot less $$. In average I believe most girls don't make 800 a day, but less. Of course there are some good performing girls that earns a lot every night, but those must be few.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1748271]Not so sure about that. 800 per day as an average is a lot. There's plenty of girls hardly making their entry from Monday to Thursday. So if a girl is working five days a week from Tuesday to Saturday, making 400 on Tuesday, 500 on Wednesday, 600 on Thursday she needs to make 1250 on Friday and Saturday. That's maybe the the top 25% in a club, just a wild guess.
HB.[/QUOTE]These figures are gross figures.
One or two Oase girls say that they netted maybe 5000 to 6000 per month which is what some mid level person at Deutsche bank makes.
I presume netted means their take home pay after paying entrance fees and transport and housing.
I think my earlier point was that a girl could potentially make a hundred grand a year, probably much more, but not necessarily save as much. Even if they live in shitty rooms etc, they are prone to frivolous shopping and don't have good financial instincts and who knows how much is taken away in "management fee". Also, it seems their time at their peak is relatively short. Roxana seemed to have a couple of good years, but starting to slide and in a year or two her bookings and earnings will clearly be less. So, retiring for life and living a good life on savings from a few years in this biz is a pipe dream for most.
[QUOTE=Dufey;1748281]These figures are gross figures.
[/QUOTE]Yes. So? Still tough to achieve. You brought up the 800/ day. So what did you refer to? Gross? Hard enough. Net? Even harder.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1748282]I think my earlier point was that a girl could potentially make a hundred grand a year, probably much more, but not necessarily save as much. Even if they live in shitty rooms etc, they are prone to frivolous shopping and don't have good financial instincts and who knows how much is taken away in "management fee". Also, it seems their time at their peak is relatively short. Roxana seemed to have a couple of good years, but starting to slide and in a year or two her bookings and earnings will clearly be less. So, retiring for life and living a good life on savings from a few years in this biz is a pipe dream for most.[/QUOTE]I think those girls who are doing it for some goal like paying for university or open some business of theirs has some possibility to good future.
Those who do it just for sake of money with no particular plan why they do FKK works has very limited possibility for blight future and end up keep coming back to FKK to work. Well in some cases it is very nice thing to see my old flames coming back to FKK scene after years of disappearance but with same figure and face .
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1748282]I think my earlier point was that a girl could potentially make a hundred grand a year, probably much more, but not necessarily save as much. Even if they live in shitty rooms etc, they are prone to frivolous shopping and don't have good financial instincts and who knows how much is taken away in "management fee". Also, it seems their time at their peak is relatively short. Roxana seemed to have a couple of good years, but starting to slide and in a year or two her bookings and earnings will clearly be less. So, retiring for life and living a good life on savings from a few years in this biz is a pipe dream for most.[/QUOTE]Many of the girls have a male somewhere in the background, be he a boyfriend, husband, business manager or perhaps she belongs to an organisation. There are plenty who want to share in the profits of this game. Even girls who work independently are financing another family member or perhaps their own child. One wonders how many manage to get away from this type of life ahead of the game? Some I suppose but perhaps not all that many. What is certain is that the money available in Germany is definitely better than what can be earned in Romania / Bulgaria / Moldova. So there is perhaps the chance of a better life for some. But they need to have wise heads and avoid the pitfalls of this game like drugs (which are readily available in the clubs) and working not for themselves!
[QUOTE=CaptDan;1749325]Many of the girls have a male somewhere in the background, be he a boyfriend, husband, business manager or perhaps she belongs to an organisation. There are plenty who want to share in the profits of this game. Even girls who work independently are financing another family member or perhaps their own child. One wonders how many manage to get away from this type of life ahead of the game? Some I suppose but perhaps not all that many. What is certain is that the money available in Germany is definitely better than what can be earned in Romania / Bulgaria / Moldova. So there is perhaps the chance of a better life for some. But they need to have wise heads and avoid the pitfalls of this game like drugs (which are readily available in the clubs) and working not for themselves![/QUOTE]I don't think many of the girls could do it by themselves. Even from modest circumstances, not many girls in their 20's will venture out on their own, without being "encouraged" or without having some support system. What landlord is going to rent a flat to a young girl who can't speak German and can't prove that she has a legitimate income (I. E. Stable employment in which she pays taxes).
The girls seem to go home every two months, and some stay as long as six months, so my question is how are they getting this money home to Romania? And where are they stockpiling this money while they are working in DE? Are they keeping thousands of EUR under their mattress in Offenbach? I don't think it is being deposited into DE banks. It wouldn't be smart to bring thousands of EUR across the border. There are a lot Romanians working abroad in Western Europe, so there are certainly legitimate money wiring services that can transfer cash money for a fee. These services probably cater to the many Romanian housekeepers, construction workers working "under the table" or "in the black", but these people aren't wiring large sums or making frequent wiring transactions, whereas the girls would be. So that option is probably out for them.
They need probably an illicit organization. Or people helping them that will take a cut. I suppose that is better than paying taxes on that money. IDK.