Madagascar

[QUOTE=Taurus1;2432448]It seems you don't know Africa so well. The girl will prefer to live alone with a young female helper from her family that costs only the food, shelter and 20 Euro per month. Chances are high that the step dad will be a pimp or an abusive man taking the money for his expenses. Also living with the family is not optimal as your money will be for the needs of all of them.[/QUOTE]This is an international phenomenon. In the Philippines no self respecting local men would marry her. Raising another man's child is shameful that even the willing man's parents would disapprove. As you mentioned chances are that the step dad will be a pimp or an abusive man taking the money for his expenses. She will have difficulty to be accepted and taken seriously by society. There is a reason why bars are dominated by single mothers hoping for white foreigner to save them. I'm always surprised how naive western men are and how little they understand about 3rd world country's society.

The good thing about the Philippines is respect is in short supply, so not so much of an issue after all!

SE.

[QUOTE=Datiao;2432456]I m expecting about 15 usd a day for budget hotel for 3rd world countries.[/QUOTE]Hôtel Robinson crusoé and Ody Hotel both for 60 k Ariary or 16 Dollar.

[QUOTE=Datiao;2432456]I m expecting about 15 usd a day for budget hotel for 3rd world countries.[/QUOTE]Then you can must be anticipating 3rd world standards for your stay. The good news is a beachfront bungalow (in Tamatave, attached photos) can be had for 25,000 ariary (that's 7 dollars!) leaving you more of your hard-earned cash to splurge on food, drink, and procuring your dates.

[QUOTE=SteveOhh;2432658]Htel Robinson cruso and Ody Hotel both for 60 k Ariary or 16 Dollar.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve, are these hotels far from the bars or SWs?

[QUOTE=Datiao;2432818]Thanks Steve, are these hotels far from the bars or SWs?[/QUOTE]No, it's not far. Google says it's seven minute walking distance to taxi be and LE billard or one minute to djembe discotheque. The beach is also less than five minutes. SW during the daytime are at beach and on the streets in front of the hotel. Take a seat at a restaurant on the beach or Main Street and they will find you. That area is not very big.

[QUOTE=Datiao;2432327]I was interested to visit Madagascar till I saw the hotel prices, though pussies are cheap.

Hotel is daily expenses so I will have to Factor in.[/QUOTE]You never did travel in Afrika?

Hotels are not financed by local poor people but by rich Indian businessmen or other foreign investors. Hotel prices for a good hotel in Afrika are more expensive then a comparable place in Thailand or other Asian countries.

In Mada you can get decent Hotels for 20 to 30 EU. Not in NosyBe, but in most other places. You can also stay in a dump for 15 EU or less, as Golfhino did show. But then -- where is the fun?

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2425830]Boss Needy,

I just typed what you wrote on Google translate: the first one is Malagasy and it means Healthy en New and the second and third was Love & How Much?

What is the logic behind " salama en vaovao" Healthy en New.[/QUOTE]Hello mates.

Salama: godmorning or good afternoon or even goodbye.

Vaovao: 'how are you ? 'but words have many meanings depending in which context just like the word tompoko it can mean "man" or "woman"
and there are also many dialects allover in each provinces...good luck quite complicated language for foreigners

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=LoveTraveller;2425754]So SE, thanks for the reply it really helps.

Both the girls the Supermarket and FB. There was no conversation about Money at all. It was meant to be a coffee at my hotel and everyone concerned knew where coffee turned to Vodka and then the room.

The Supermarket I have 100 twice so giving less would be a crime. She also expected me to drop her to the closest bus stop in the morning.

With the FB. I gave her the 100 in the morning and she complained it was less, I just didn't want to create a mess or anything, so I gave her another 100, she asked for another 50 for taxi.

But I get your point. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hello L Travellr.

100 means 100 ariary fmg.

Or 100 k AR (fmg) if it's 100 k it's too too much.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Idumbam;2433137]Hello L Travellr.

100 means 100 ariary fmg.[/QUOTE]What is this nonsense of 100 AR (fmg)? Fmg does not exist since 2005. Sometimes the speak fmg then you divide by 5 to convert to AR.

No such thing as 100 means 100 ariary fmg.

Bravao sir, you know how to enjoy yourself without breaking the number 1 rule.

This was a 19 yrs old mirna student in Tana. 30 k plus 5 k for transport 2-3 hrs. Was shy at first but enjoyed the experience.

Rule 1 kept.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2430034]I just left Mada and was in Nosy Be for a little over a week, all night with 21 yo girls I always paid 40 kAR no complaints always eager to see me again. I had this same experience in Tamatave and Tana. I absolutely LOVE those sweet young things in Daressalam, Nosey Be.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Delongi;2431512]Call me crazy, but I'm entertaining the idea of having kids with one or more nice girls and paying them monthly to raise the kids.

I want more children. Don't know why, maybe a biological impulse. And when I retire, I might move over to Africa and have a younger family (or more than one).

Can you experienced expats explain to me why this is a bad idea (it probably is)? What will go wrong?

Do you know the cost of living in rural areas in Madagascar, Kenya and other African countries? What would be the minimum "salary" I would have to pay a housewife to live reasonably comfortably and raise 4 kids without having to work?[/QUOTE]I think the best way to work this out is to have a child with a woman who is a single mother. It would be an amazing opportunity for all involved. I know a few of them, they very nice women, great mothers, but had the bad luck of getting pregnant and dumped by some trigger-happy idiot. In fact I have a friend who used to be a model, runs a successful maquillage business, has a super positive personality, has a super cute little daughter, has given up the hope of a proper partner, yet would love to have a second child. She's awesome. Get someone like her.

Or I also know a woman in her early 20's, who is trying to finish her studies while managing a kid, living with her parents. She's studying engineering, her degree project is some kind or robot, how cool is that? You could help her finish her studies, move out from her parents, get a good job, so she can also contribute economically and not be entirely dependant on you. You would be her hero, her parents too would love you.

In terms of costs, it depends on the economic level or location. Say a lower middle class in Tamatave or Fenerive, I would aim to give 150-200 $. Perhaps up to 400-500 $ for someone in Tana who is of a better social level. Maybe it bit more. You can also expect additional requests for medical bills for the family, etc. Up to you to manage that. Say you want your kid (and hers) to go to a nice private uni later on, that's about 1500 $ per year. Just to give you an idea.

You could show up once a year, bring some gifts like a new mobile phone or buy the in laws a new TV or something, and be treated like a king.

For the mother it is bingo and for the children lifetime possible being torn apart in culture and ethnic group.

I hope you have not reproduced yet. The planet does not need more like you.

SE.

Unfortunately only French but important, use chrome browser and translation function.

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Flights between Madagascar and Europe are stopped for the next 30 days.

Until 19th of March flights available between Madagascar (Ivato. Antananarivo) and Reunion or Mayotte.

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