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[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2057025]
I just wondered, given Thermae girls' preference for st, how many men do the most attractive of them do on a given night, on average? Or would that be pure speculation to try to estimate. Or, was that a stupid question?? In that case bite me. Bite me!

J. T.[/QUOTE]I just wondered why you ask the question. LOL You can assume most of her STs last much less than 2 hours. Assume 1 hour or less on average. If she is as stunning as you say, she won't stand in Thermae for that long before getting a customer. So many times, I started to consider some girl and just about ready to approach her when some Japanese guy got to her first and whisked her away. Too slow to decide.

You could ask the girl how many she gets. LOL. She knows better than anyone but unlikely to be very specific. It could range from 1 to 5, depending on how much money she needs, or how diligent she is or how easy the customers were. There must be low days and extremely busy days. We can't know the true answer for the average Thermae stunner, since there are so few of them.

Bear in mind that a really top girl can do several STs in one night. That is an added reason why LT 5 k does not interest them in the slightest. If you can find a great GFE girl their you are doing well.

Hi guys,

I have an awesome flight deal to Bangkok at the end of August and am very interested in booking it. I have been (mongered) a number of places (I am 34) including the normal hotspots of Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru, Germany and Hungary. However, after reading these threads I am kinda torn. It seems the prices for good looking women are almost at the $200 range -- which is insane as that is the same rate I could pay here in America (which I don't). I always heard that Thailand was a good deal but I am guessing demand / people throwing money has created inflation or just higher prices in general? Do you think I should still go? Look, I am not cheap but I can go to Medellin for the same price flight and get many girls for $50-$100 for 1-2 hours and if I wanted to be cheap I could go to a few casas. I just don't know if I can justify flying an insane amount of time for pussy that will be more than I would pay in America. Do you think it is worth the trip? Are there a lot of normal things to do in Bangkok besides you know what? I would be riding solo, so it is easy to meetup with fellow travelers? Yes, I am a noob but just want to get your opinion is if it is worth traveling halfway around the world to experience Thailand. P.S. Are there other areas better to visit I. E. Chaing Mai or the beach areas?

[QUOTE=SmilingBuddha;2057132]I am going to Thailand next month. Can I find Indian / south Asian women in Pattaya and Bangkok? I would appreciate any suggestions.[/QUOTE]

I've occasionally seen an Indian sex worker in low-end streetwalker areas of Bangkok (Yaowarat and Khlong Lot), and have seen two on Beach Road in Pattaya last year, once out of a thousand times I walked there. However, on any given night, your chances of finding one are extremely low, even if you know where to look. It's fair to say you won't find any, though stranger things have happened in Thailand.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2057025]I just wondered, given Thermae girls' preference for st, how many men do the most attractive of them do on a given night, on average? Or would that be pure speculation to try to estimate.[/QUOTE]It's an interesting question, though unless someone is willing to stand at the back door of Thermae with a click-counter for a few nights, it's only a guess. I agree with what Syzygies said, that 5 would be about the maximum (an average ST lasting 1 h or less).

Thai working girls (especially the pretty ones) are typically not ultra-hard-working nor singularly focused on maximizing their income. I think most would call it a night after 1-3 customers, unless they had specific reasons to work more. Even a single ST, 2500 baht, is a solid amount of money in Thailand, a 7-11 employee takes 8 working days (at 300 baht / day) to make that much.

I had an open few days on a business trip in southeast Asia and was encouraged to come to Bangkok for another visit. I have visited in the past, but not really found much to my liking. However, a senior member sealed the deal when he offered to show me around and make some introductions. Unfortunately, he seems to have stood me up -- no doubt for some good reason, but the courtesy of tell me would have been nice -- no matter, I was left to my own abilities and research in the forum, the normal situation. Fortunately, this is one of best forums with lots of helpful members and detailed postings. I don't expect this post will add much.

Arrival: Landed at BKK and picked up two True Home 4 G tourist 8-day SIM cards with unlimited 4 G data for US $10/each just outside of customs. One for the phone and one for the iPad. (so far very fast data and no issues). After much RTFF, I decided I would scout out the Saphan Kwai clubs and Ratchada massage shops since these sounded the most local and previously mentioned senior member had talked them up. I booked a room at the (mostly) newly renovated Swissotel LE Concord on Ratchada Road ($130/ night on the executive floor) From BKK I easily and quickly made my way via the Skytrain from the airport to the Makkasan station but then made the mistake of hailing a taxi at 5:00 pm on a rainy evening. I should have just transferred to the subway and taken the train to Huai Khwang station because it's a 3-minute walk to the LE Concord. 30 minute taxi ride in lots of traffic, but only 100 baht who can complain about US $3. 00 ?

Night 1: Ratchada Massage -.

I was delighted to see that The Lord Hotel and Spa is essentially directly across the street and a 4 minute walk from the hotel as are a couple other massage places. I entered The Lord Spa (entrance on the leftside of the building) at 8:00 pm. It's a really nice looking place inside! To the left of the high-ceilinged marble lobby there is a two-tier wedding cake of 75 girls surrounded by a low gold railing and numerous tables and comfortable chairs strewn about. The place was very well lighted and it was easy to see the girls clearly. There were 6-8 well dressed male and female hosts who assisted guests into the area. I was met by a gentleman who explained the tiered pricing of the ladies: are 4800, O 5300, M 5800, K, L, XL and XX for 90 minutes.

There were about 75 women who were 6-8's of various ages and sizes. I asked for someone 20-22 (as locals know, the girls have to be at least 20 to work in these places or the bars), with natural breasts and no kids. Well, that requirement winnowed the herd right down to 3 girls. All in the K or M range. I selected an M class (sorry don't recall her number) who's name was Phoo. Service was pretty much the standard affair but done with enthusiasm. I certainly knew I was doing a pro and not the girl next door for all the scrubbing and wiping and mouth-washing and soaping and washing and lubricate. It was ok 7/10.

Night 1: Saphan Kwai Bars (near 26 Sutthisan Winitchai and Soi Inthamara).

This scene has been well documented by BKKDOG in his Saphan Kwai blog as a locals place and not recommended for tourists (like me). Nevertheless, I was interested and hopped a taxi from The Lord at 9:45/10:00 and made my way to the area. This should have been a piece of cake, but the main road connecting the two areas was changed to one-way the wrong way and the taxi driver and I had to navigate several kms out of our way to get there. Glad I had Google Maps running because the driver wouldn't have figured it out.

The street looked pretty dead, but I found T-Ded bar. Which is a pretty big place for this area. I almost missed it because the door facing the street were chained shut, fortunately I looked down an alley way and saw the entrance. It's a run down club with good lighting and music not too loud so you can actually have a conversation. I should say if you spoke Thai you might have a conversation, because no one spoke much English. I speak no Thai, but I was able to get by just fine with Google Translate. In fact it was amazing that even with loud music the speaking function works pretty well. Well enough that I could talk back and forth with a girl using it even with the music blasting pretty loud.

My thought was to ingratiate myself with these folks, in hopes that someone could guide me to some attractive girls, cause I didn't see anything that looked very good on arrival and if it looked good I could come back the next night. By about 11:00 pm there were 50+ girls and half the tables were full of local Thai guys. I ordered a bunch of food, got a girl and bought her a 120 baht lady drink, ordered a bunch of beer. Eventually the staff was helping me out and bring better looking girls around. I found that the girl who I bought the LD from wasn't for take out but that was cool, it was only 120 baht. I met some local guys who spoke English and seemed keen to hang out so I drank with them and we took turn getting 100 baht lap dances. I got LINE contact from several of the girls, but none struck me as hot enough to take home. The asking price was 2,500 short time. I asked the locals about other bars in the area (RCA, The Best, For-U) but they said they had all closed or moved. Google Maps shows in street view the signs for For-you and RCA, but the actual street has no signs so maybe they have moved. I picked up the local guys check and paid my own, which had swelled to 2,300, tipped the hosts and manager 100-200 baht each and left with my wallet 3,500 lighter. It was a nice friendly experience but it probably takes a few trips before it would yield anything special.

I left around 12:30 am and walked both sides of Sutthisan Winitchai and found only one other bar. A place with no sign but brightly lighted and I was welcomed in. I later found they call the place something like UD or EP (two initials, one a vowel), its located close to Soi 1. The girls inside here were better than what I had seen at T-Ded. Fewer tats, less fat, younger. But at 1:00 am there were maybe a total of 15 girls of which 2-3 were attractive to me. They were 2,000ST and said they had a place very close maybe that hotel across the street?? I sat and talked and fondled a few for 45 minutes and a couple of beers but wasn't inspired and called it a night.

Summary: Swissotel Le Concord is great location for exploring these two areas. The massage scene seems active and I'll explore it more tonight. the bars on Saphan Kwai are a very interesting local experience - a nice change up.

Well, here goes my first FR.

Being a high profile individual in my company, it was difficult for me to monger around in the open. So, I resorted to having escorts to my room discretely.

Night 1: I came to BKK for a conference, and arrived late in the evening. After commuting through the traffic to Sukhumvit, I checked in and contacted Absolute Angels. They sent over a girl named Star. Well, to be fair the girl was not what I expected after looking at the pics. Still, I paid her in full and moved on to the shower with her. She had an amazing figure and fake boobs. After the shower, I asked her for a BJ which she declined because of a dental problem. I told her to then start riding me. On goes the cap and the girl riding the bull. Boy is she tight. After 15 minutes of sweat in 3-4 positions I gave up and exploded. She cleaned up quickly, and we had some food ordered. After the food we went in for another round for 15-20 minutes and then she was off.

Looks: 10/10 in the website, 5/10 in actual.

Figure: 8/10, no tummy.

Service: 6/10 for no BBBJ or DATY.

WIR: No.

Night 2: This time, I ordered a Russian from Bangkok-Russian-[URL]escorts.com[/URL]. The girl (Alexa) arrived with a female bodyguard, who collected the money and demanded tips! Did not tip her and asked her to leave. This was not the girl I ordered, but a well built Russian with good boobs. So I continued. But then it all went down hill. No shower together, although she insisted on me having shower and then she went in for shower!! No BBBJ, No DATY, No fingering! So, I started banging her. In between, she had her annoying phone ringing. She went off to attend twice. I banged her again for 1/2 HR because jonny was relaxed a bit and had more energy. Then let her off.

Looks: 8/10.

Figure: 8/10, little tummy but natural see cups.

Service: 3/10 for no BBBJ or DATY.

WIR: No.

Night 2 again: At 3 AM, I was up because of jet lag, and ordered a girl from Smooci. Forgot her name, but she has a pic in a bright green bikini on Smooci and with goggles. She looked exactly like her pics and boobs were better than expected on such a tiny frame. Well, she came in at 3:30 and we went for a quick shower. She started giving me a BBBJ in the shower without asking. Finally, bliss! Off to the bed, bit of banging, fingering, BBBJ and session 1 done. We watched a few online things on youtube, and then we started again. This time BBBJ was much much longer and she knew her deed. Had an amazing time with this girl. Well worth the money.

Final day: I ordered a girl called Beer from Smooci again. Looks surprised me on how well these girls can alter their profile pics using photoshop. Well, long story short. Great body, natural boobs and forgettable face. Blowjobs were wet and amazing. The girl had an amazing chatterbox and pleasing attitude. After round 1 of fucking, she offered me a massage, which I took. Then we had some coffee, and off to round 2. I told her to give me an end to end blowjob, which she was more than happy to give. She turned around with her ass and pussy on my face for a 69 and we both started our tongue work. She was obviously much better at it. My balls and dick were being well attended to, and boy the 15 minutes of extremely wet and powerful blowjob rendered me shivering.

Thanks for the report. I used to frequent the Ratchada soapies very often, but ever since Nataree closed down, I haven't been able to find one worth going to. Sure, the sideliner girls at Nataree could sometimes be very inexperienced, but I loved the girl-next-door vibe they all had, and most of the girls were young and HOT.

Since Nataree's closure, I've periodically browsed through Ocean / Colonze, Emmanuelle / Amsterdam, Merci, The Lord, Alaina, La Belle, and further outposts such as Catherine's and La Defense. All have been disappointing. The girls in these places are over the hill or too pro. No fun for someone who prefers the amateur girl-next-door. Haven't seen a young hot 9 or 10 in a long while. If you find a good one, please let us know!

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2057289]

Night 1: Ratchada Massage -.

I was delighted to see that The Lord Hotel and Spa is essentially directly across the street and a 4 minute walk from the hotel as are a couple other massage places. I entered The Lord Spa (entrance on the leftside of the building) at 8:00 pm. It's a really nice looking place inside! To the left of the high-ceilinged marble lobby there is a two-tier wedding cake of 75 girls surrounded by a low gold railing and numerous tables and comfortable chairs strewn about. The place was very well lighted and it was easy to see the girls clearly. There were 6-8 well dressed male and female hosts who assisted guests into the area. I was met by a gentleman who explained the tiered pricing of the ladies: are 4800, O 5300, M 5800, K, L, XL and XX for 90 minutes.

There were about 75 women who were 6-8's of various ages and sizes. I asked for someone 20-22 (as locals know, the girls have to be at least 20 to work in these places or the bars), with natural breasts and no kids. Well, that requirement winnowed the herd right down to 3 girls. All in the K or M range. I selected an M class (sorry don't recall her number) who's name was Phoo. Service was pretty much the standard affair but done with enthusiasm. I certainly knew I was doing a pro and not the girl next door for all the scrubbing and wiping and mouth-washing and soaping and washing and lubricate. It was ok 7/10.

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Ann or Amm from Isaan. Slim body, maybe mid 20's, average face (a lot better than most of the old ones usually seen at BJ bars).

Didn't allow kiss, didn't allow to touch her anywhere (boobs / ass. So I guess even less chances to touch pussy), didn't want to get naked.

Average BJ, not so bad but really nothing special (just one base movement).

Had the decency not to ask for a tip at least.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2057240]Thai working girls (especially the pretty ones) are typically not ultra-hard-working nor singularly focused on maximizing their income. I think most would call it a night after 1-3 customers, unless they had specific reasons to work more. Even a single ST, 2500 baht, is a solid amount of money in Thailand, a 7-11 employee takes 8 working days (at 300 baht / day) to make that much.[/QUOTE]And the pretty ones often have more than one sponsor regularly sending them money from abroad. I know some girls who are clearing as much as 50 K a month just from chumps whom they have never met. Now add that to their income from ST jaunts. If one were to assume 3 pops a night one 3 days a week, then she is making around 22 K a week, or roughly 80 K a month from ST pops alone. And she is working 3 nights a week for roughly 4 - 6 hours per night.

That is real serious income in Thailand. Middle management in most industries would be making that kind of money.

[QUOTE=Culture;2057225]Hi guys,

I have an awesome flight deal to Bangkok at the end of August and am very interested in booking it. I have been (mongered) a number of places (I am 34) including the normal hotspots of Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru, Germany and Hungary. However, after reading these threads I am kinda torn. It seems the prices for good looking women are almost at the $200 range -- which is insane as that is the same rate I could pay here in America (which I don't). I always heard that Thailand was a good deal but I am guessing demand / people throwing money has created inflation or just higher prices in general? Do you think I should still go? Look, I am not cheap but I can go to Medellin for the same price flight and get many girls for $50-$100 for 1-2 hours and if I wanted to be cheap I could go to a few casas. I just don't know if I can justify flying an insane amount of time for pussy that will be more than I would pay in America. Do you think it is worth the trip? Are there a lot of normal things to do in Bangkok besides you know what? I would be riding solo, so it is easy to meetup with fellow travelers? Yes, I am a noob but just want to get your opinion is if it is worth traveling halfway around the world to experience Thailand. P.S. Are there other areas better to visit I. E. Chaing Mai or the beach areas?[/QUOTE]Go, I seriously doubt you will regret it. Chiang Mai isn't particularly good for mongering but it's a nice city. There is no place like Thailand.

[QUOTE=CDirtyB;2057296]Well, here goes my first FR.

Being a high profile individual in my company, it was difficult for me to monger around in the open. So, I resorted to having escorts to my room discretely.

Night 1: I came to BKK for a conference, and arrived late in the evening. After commuting through the traffic to Sukhumvit, I checked in and contacted Absolute Angels. They sent over a girl named Star. Well, to be fair the girl was not what I expected after looking at the pics. Still, I paid her in full and moved on to the shower with her. She had an amazing figure and fake boobs. After the shower, I asked her for a BJ which she declined because of a dental problem. I told her to then start riding me. On goes the cap and the girl riding the bull. Boy is she tight. After 15 minutes of sweat in 3-4 positions I gave up and exploded. She cleaned up quickly, and we had some food ordered. After the food we went in for another round for 15-20 minutes and then she was off.

Looks: 10/10 in the website, 5/10 in actual.

Figure: 8/10, no tummy.

Service: 6/10 for no BBBJ or DATY.

WIR: No.

Night 2: This time, I ordered a Russian from Bangkok-Russian-[URL]escorts.com[/URL]. The girl (Alexa) arrived with a female bodyguard, who collected the money and demanded tips! Did not tip her and asked her to leave. This was not the girl I ordered, but a well built Russian with good boobs. So I continued. But then it all went down hill. No shower together, although she insisted on me having shower and then she went in for shower!! No BBBJ, No DATY, No fingering! So, I started banging her. In between, she had her annoying phone ringing. She went off to attend twice. I banged her again for 1/2 HR because jonny was relaxed a bit and had more energy. Then let her off.

Looks: 8/10.

Figure: 8/10, little tummy but natural see cups.

Service: 3/10 for no BBBJ or DATY.

WIR: No.

Night 2 again: At 3 AM, I was up because of jet lag, and ordered a girl from Smooci. Forgot her name, but she has a pic in a bright green bikini on Smooci and with goggles. She looked exactly like her pics and boobs were better than expected on such a tiny frame. Well, she came in at 3:30 and we went for a quick shower. She started giving me a BBBJ in the shower without asking. Finally, bliss! Off to the bed, bit of banging, fingering, BBBJ and session 1 done. We watched a few online things on youtube, and then we started again. This time BBBJ was much much longer and she knew her deed. Had an amazing time with this girl. Well worth the money.

Final day: I ordered a girl called Beer from Smooci again. Looks surprised me on how well these girls can alter their profile pics using photoshop. Well, long story short. Great body, natural boobs and forgettable face. Blowjobs were wet and amazing. The girl had an amazing chatterbox and pleasing attitude. After round 1 of fucking, she offered me a massage, which I took. Then we had some coffee, and off to round 2. I told her to give me an end to end blowjob, which she was more than happy to give. She turned around with her ass and pussy on my face for a 69 and we both started our tongue work. She was obviously much better at it. My balls and dick were being well attended to, and boy the 15 minutes of extremely wet and powerful blowjob rendered me shivering.[/QUOTE]I will be there in some days from now. Would be really interested in meeting the first of your 2 Smooci grils, unfortunately you don't recall her name. Having a look through Smooci I could'nt see any with a green bikini, at least today. Could be so kind and try to investigate Smooci for finding her and let me know? Thanks a lot!!

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2057025]

I just wondered, given Thermae girls' preference for st, how many men do the most attractive of them do on a given night, on average? Or would that be pure speculation to try to estimate. Or, was that a stupid question?? In that case bite me. Bite me!

J. T.[/QUOTE]Certainly not extensive data sampling, but the girl I met at Thermae back in March and then spent 7 the week with when I returned in May says she generally does no more than 2ST per night unless things have been slow for several days then she might try to get 3+ to pad her bank account. I was purely interested so I could have a reasonable number for compensating her for spending 24/7 with me when I was in town. Not wanting to overpay, but also not wanting to severely underpay for her time and potential lost income from other clients.

[QUOTE=Culture;2057225]Hi guys,

I have an awesome flight deal to Bangkok at the end of August and am very interested in booking it. I have been (mongered) a number of places (I am 34) including the normal hotspots of Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru, Germany and Hungary. However, after reading these threads I am kinda torn. It seems the prices for good looking women are almost at the $200 range -- which is insane as that is the same rate I could pay here in America (which I don't). I always heard that Thailand was a good deal but I am guessing demand / people throwing money has created inflation or just higher prices in general? Do you think I should still go? Look, I am not cheap but I can go to Medellin for the same price flight and get many girls for $50-$100 for 1-2 hours and if I wanted to be cheap I could go to a few casas. I just don't know if I can justify flying an insane amount of time for pussy that will be more than I would pay in America. Do you think it is worth the trip? Are there a lot of normal things to do in Bangkok besides you know what? I would be riding solo, so it is easy to meetup with fellow travelers? Yes, I am a noob but just want to get your opinion is if it is worth traveling halfway around the world to experience Thailand. P.S. Are there other areas better to visit I. E. Chaing Mai or the beach areas?[/QUOTE]How long would you plan to go? If you do 2 weeks with 1 week BKK and 1 week Pattaya it be worth it!

* Thermae - made my way here at 9:00 pm (they open at 8:00 pm) on a Friday night. This has been described elsewhere, but for the lazy newcomer (rare, right??) Located near Nana Plaza, it's a wide-open room about 40 meters x 15 meters with a low ceiling, bright lights and a linoleum floor with a sort of wooden serpentine shape bar-height table running through the middle and a bar counter on one end with a half dozen guys trying to get everyone who enters to buy a drink. The entire perimeter is lined with working girls standing with their hands folded shoulder to shoulder maybe 75 or 100 girls. Punters walk around looking at the girls and stopping to chat with those that look interesting. To my eye the quality was pretty average. 30%-40% over-thirty-year-old Milfs, 40% late 20's, maybe 15% early 20's. I didn't see any 9's or 10's, mostly 6-7's.

The vibe is really kinda weird and sterile. Few of the girls seemed to be flirty, most just stood there or talked to a friend. Many made eye contact and smiled a bit. But it was none of the liveliness of say visiting a barbershop back in the Changping days or even your average fishbowl.

* Girl#1 - I found a couple that looked nice and got some smiles. Finally settled on a 23-year-old sporting a tight mid-riff and flawless skin. After 45 seconds of pleasantries, I said let's go for ST. She said 3,000. I laughed and said 2,500; she said 3,000. This went on for another 30 seconds before she said ok. So, it's really all business here and not like flirting and a little groping in the clubs. There are no seats, it is just a commercial market, indoor streetwalkers, in good light so you can see what you are getting.

Directly about Thermae is the Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel, accessible via a back stairway, where they charge 700 for 2 hours for a room and 100 for a pack of condoms. They took the girl's ID. And, up we went to the 4th floor. (One could get a room here for the whole night and just shuttle girls in and out. The Agoda nightly rate is 1,100 baht / US $35. So, if you were thinking of more than one session, or just wanted to save some money, it would be worth it to book a room all night. The quality is fair a 2 star-type place but it's cheap and cheery and clean with a decent king bed in a large room. There are a couple of other nicer places within 100 metres including a Sofitel.).

In the room, the girl did the funniest thing I've seen in a while. She took out her phone and turned on the camera then walked around the room pointing the lens at the wall, at the curtains, at the ceiling, into ventilation ducts, under the bed. I asked her WTF she was doing. She said "checking for spy cameras" Oh, really? How's that work? "All spy cameras will show up as red dots if you point a phone at them!" OK! Whatever! Can you please take your clothes off now?

The girl was very friendly and sweet. She spoke a little English. She confessed that she had been doing this 3 nights a week for 5 weeks, and I was her first European, and she was nervous. I suspect judging from the looks I got that many of the girls here haven't been with Caucasians and many don't want to try. But, my girl was game to expand her, ah, ah, horizons and we had good time. Really stunning tight body, albeit with new fake tits that were nice quality but not really my thing. Showered together before, decent BBBJ, and a good if slightly star-fish fuck. Didn't want to do doggy and complained a bit about size but soldiered-on like a good Buddhist girl.

This had only taken 45 minutes so I held on to the room key thinking I might get another girl.

Damage: 2,500 + 500 tip + 700 room + 100 condo = 3,800.
Face: 8/10.
Body: 9/10 (if fake tits don't lose points, otherwise 7/10); no kids.
Service: 6/10.
Attitude: 8/10.
Repeat: maybe, she could get GFE with some time.

* Girl #2 - I wasn't fully sated so I went back to look around again. By 10:30 the place had filled with men and it was a bit of a conga line of guys walking counterclockwise (this being a Buddhist country) around looking at the girls. In the corner I saw a young-looking girl who wasn't dolled up standing with a woman who could have been a mamasan or aunt. She wasn't the cutest or thinnest of the women but she had a much less pro attitude and I thought I might find a little innocence. She said she was 21 and had no kids. I said ok, let's go, 2,500. She countered with 3,000 and we went back and forth. I could see she was a little hesitate about me and in the interests of time I said ok to 3,000 (sorry guys for not holding the line).

Back to the hotel and she insisted on showering alone which reinforced my sense that she was inexperienced and shy. She emerged wrapped in a towel and I showered. When I came out she was, as I thought she might be, under the covers with the towel on and all the lights but one off. LOL. I dragged her out and on to the top of the covers, turned on a few lights, and unwrapped the package. She was bit chubby with small tits but no signs of pregnancy and an unfortunately very hairy Bush. Not exactly sexy, but I thought a BJ would get me in the mood so after a little cuddling I suggested she do that.

Then it happened. She pulled out a condom and tried to put it on me. Well, this is a total nonstarter for me. It is just a worthless endeavor and I haven't accepted one in about 15 years. So I told her No. She said yes condom. I said no way. Then she pulled this bullshit: she pulled her lip down and said she had a sore. I couldn't see a damn sore, but WTF am I going to do. At this point I was totally uninterested in fucking her. So I called the whole thing off and gave 1000 baht and got out there. I'm 80% sure this is just the bullshit she pulls so she doesn't have to do a BBBJ.

Damage: 1000.
Face: 6/10.
Body: 6/10.
Service: 0/10.
Attitude: 0/10.

** Summary thoughts on Thermae: This seems like a (relative to massage parlors) cheap place to get yourself laid with a minimum of wasted time and with a large selection of girls. The quality wasn't so great the night that I was there, but I'm sure one could find diamonds if you stopped by frequently. It's convenient, so you could have a look and move on. There is no cover. If you are mongering with a thin wallet, the option of getting a room at the hotel above would save money and time. You could pretty much count on 3 shags and a night at the hotel for less than 10,000.

After not finding much quality at Thermeas I decided to walk to Levels since there are only about 15 minutes apart and Levels has a reputation for quality FLs. I arrived about 11:00 pm on a Friday. Levels, is a proper dance type club on the upper floors with an outside bar area filled with smokers. No cover and I paid 120 baht for a soda and walked around. There was a mix of mongers and normal folks including a few Western backpacker types shooting selfies. Good live band and small dance floor filled. The FLs here are supposed to be 5,000 to 6,000 which seems pretty fucking expensive for the talent I saw. In fact there was really none that looked very hot other than one tall girl with a white lace body suit on. Body looked very tight and nice, but I'the guess at least a 50% chance she was a post-op. So, I don't know if this was average or not, but it was a disappointment. Several chunky girls waddling around. No idea who would dish out $150 for that. I can't see the draw of that place and won't go out of my way again without some better reports. I cut my losses and decided to make a dash to The Lord before they closed at midnight.