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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2074846]I was not being sarcastic. I was being realistic. Of course, if there is a flood of customers at the rare high season period some of the best looking girls will be a bit busy. But not very often. I see those girls on stage for hours at a time with no customers taking them out. A lot of customers are inclined to pass on spending any amount of money on a vacuous beauty who isn't likely to be good in bed. I am one of them. That fact alone is going to put a ceiling on what these girls can ask for and get every bit as much as the reality that even the best lookers in a go-go bar could be outshined by the 10th best looking Thai girl to walk into Terminal 21 shopping mall between 1-1:30 pm yesterday. The girls know it and most observant customers know it.

Is there a go-go dancer who regularly commands 2-3 times the going rate in her bar AND is regularly scooped up within 30 minutes of arriving or returning from the previous ST? If so, then maybe she is a fantastic combination of high quality looks and exemplary service and she is the one for whom it can somewhat consistently be a
What I have observed is some hot go-go dancers who might be a bit busier than others. But for the most part any customer who wants to have them only has to wait a short while and pony up essentially the same going rate most of the other girls in that bar are getting.

There is nothing so special about those girls or the men who hire them that a guy could realistically believe he "lost his chance" because he didn't move fast enough. Good lord, she's a hooker who 99% of the time will be available for takeout again in less than 90 minuteseller's market rather than a buyer's market. But I have not observed such a girl in the bars.
s.[/QUOTE]You are way off the mark (certainly not spot on). If you have never seen the super stars in a bar, then you certainly lack bar experience.

Obviously ugly girls have to take less than stunners for a ST, but really the amount of money per booking is not the main issue. I certainly don't hear of girls charging 3 times or even 2 times the typical rate. The top girls, if any still exist (I am sure there must be some) make big money because they have plenty of customers, and many of those will be repeat customers. They can get a new customer quickly if they need to. Gogo Girl ST rates in Cowboy and Nana typically range from 2k to 3k and if any girls take less than 2k, they must be really ugly or desperate.

You offer a top girl 2 K for ST, and I assure you she is not likely to be interested, unless she believes the job is a real quickie. She just does not have to take it. A better offer arrives soon.

I have seen girls that never ever took more than 10 minutes to hook a customer. You had to be fast, or miss out. Please bear in mind this not the average hooker. Average girls are lucky to get one customer for the night. Super star girls get 3 or 4 STs on a busy night if they work hard. Then there are the in between girls who rarely miss out on a customer but are content to do just 1 or 2.

The girl I previously mentioned did not charge an outrageous amount. She took me at 6. 30 PM, probably on the way with her 2nd customer by 8. 30 pm. 10.30 or earlier could be customer number 3, and then a 4th possibly even for LT if she was not too tired. The vast majority of her customers were regulars, happy to book her again. She was a very honest girl, which customers like also. She was also very diligent. She set herself high money targets. First time I saw her, I wanted her but she was already sitting on some guy's lap, face to face, so I had to come back another day. Natty Bumpo also knew this girl well and would probably be aware of how popular she was.

At CH I observed that Donut could always get barfined within a few minutes (most of the time that was me) and rarely dancing a full set, before being called by a customer (if ever). I never really knew if she tried to do several customers per night or not, since I was her first customer always, probably being fortunate to meet her on her very first night (or near to it) and getting contact details, and I did see her a get at least one subsequent customer quickly any time I returned to CH after a ST with her. She had money targets to cover her studies. These days probably has a sugar daddy, since I don't see her working any more, but her studies should be continuing.

Another stunner that never would last long at CH in her day, was Nat, 18 YO most likely, with extremely high full natural C+ cups, and otherwise good looks. I only ever got to BF her the once, and was surprised to have won out that day, but would have repeated many times, if she kept coming back. I heard rumours she moved to a Thai oriented club north of Bangkok to be a Coyote girl. Maybe she had age problem.

Super Star girls do exist. The top girl for BFs per month, at Bacarra was pointed out to me maybe 3 or 4 years ago, however she did not appeal to me at all, looking a bit ordinary in the face. Japanese taste.

Plenty of times in a bar I missed out on my target girl because someone else got to her first. Really some girls are not struggling to get a customer. They maybe only 5% but are still there. I missed Pat in Sharks just last week. Sharks and CH bars are still full of customers despite any downturn.

Only a year ago there was a stunning Coyote named Palm in the Mercury bar. Plenty of customers were competing for her despite her having a high BF price and supposedly not being available for sex at all. Some customers would agree to BF late when the price dropped and supposedly take her dancing to RCA. I certainly would have BFed her too if she was available for sex. She definitely could be rated as a super star as in demand even if did not get BFed every day. I chatted to one of the guys who BFed her regularly without ever getting a fuck. He was not exactly sexually appealing, so I don't know if she made exceptions for some more appealing customers. As usual, she did not last there that long.

I do not observe any super stars in CH right now, that get BFed so immediately, but have been a few over the 4 years.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2074846]
Is there a go-go dancer who regularly commands 2-3 times the going rate in her bar AND is regularly scooped up within 30 minutes of arriving or returning from the previous ST? If so, then maybe she is a fantastic combination of high quality looks and exemplary service and she is the one for whom it can somewhat consistently be a seller's market rather than a buyer's market. But I have not observed such a girl in the bars.

What I have observed is some hot go-go dancers who might be a bit busier than others. But for the most part any customer who wants to have them only has to wait a short while and pony up essentially the same going rate most of the other girls in that bar are getting.

There is nothing so special about those girls or the men who hire them that a guy could realistically believe he "lost his chance" because he didn't move fast enough. Good lord, she's a hooker who 99% of the time will be available for takeout again in less than 90 minutes.[/QUOTE]Now you are forgetting one thing: these girls are not robots who never get tired and can do 6 ST's plus 1 LT per night. She might be available for takeout again in less than 90 minutes but most likely she doesn't WANT to be available, because she has no NEED to be available. Like Syzygies has also pointed out already, these girls have the luxury to determine themselves if and when they go with a (new) customer.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2074732]With all due respect guys but I think you did not read Syzygies' post carefully. He was talking about top agogo girls who are in high demand. If you don't want to finish on their schedule they will simply not go with you. It's not a buyers market for these girls. I don't like it either but that's the way it is these days.[/QUOTE]Like I said, then to heck with her. A girl like that is not high demand for me. I will get another one.

Part 1: Popular girls, Go Go's and Prices.

Here we go again. I think what the opposing side forgets to mention is that price is a factor of many variables beginning on the supply side with the venue, the girl's popularity in that venue, her financial needs, her opinion of a particular prospective customer, the time of night, and whether the girl and the customer have a history or not. On the demand side price is most usually determined by individual financial constraints, preferences in looks if any, service preferences, the degree of individual horniness, and the time.

So a Go Go girl will ask and get more than most FL's, FL's will ask and get more than SW's, yada yada all the way down the food chain until you get to the 300 baht Chinatown alley girls. If you ask me, the Asian pussy market is pretty efficient, meaning that since there is a free flow of information to all the market participants, the girls especially, are very well aware of what they can earn based on their looks and age etc in various venues and locations and they choose where to work and how much to charge rationally by in large. There will always a few anomalies like the super sexy SW working Beach Road in Pattaya for 1000 baht ST. What puts her on Beach Road instead of maximizing her revenue stream in a Go Go could be a number factors, but you better act fast when you find one like that because she will be scooped up otherwise pretty fast.

Time is also a critical factor. An attractive BKK Go Go girl at a popular Go Go between 8 pm and 9:30 pm will ask anywhere from 2000 bt to 3000 bt. I am sorry, but I just do not believe anyone who says different. When I was a young, Caucasian God, LOL, but short on money / long on ego, I used to make dates with many super hot bar girls in San Jose, Cartagena, and Bogota to meet me after their bars closed and I had no shortage of overnight company all gratis thank you. I never spent a peso on pussy back then because I was young and American. (The American thing mattered more back then.) That was then and I have changed, grown older, hopefully wiser, and certainly richer, but not much else has changed if you happen to be either young and handsome or willing to wait until 3 or 4 in the morning to get some pussy (free or less expensive). The girls know that the value of their vaginas depreciate to zero at the end of every night, so many girls will reduce their price rather than earn nothing for a particular night. And girls will always be girls, so never underestimate their desire to make love to a good looking young man for free. HA HA. For me, time has value. Most nights I am not willing to wait until early morning. Furthermore, I place a value on being first and not having sloppy seconds or sloppy thirds. So, I willingly pay more for the pussy I desire in prime time and I don't have to wait because I can afford not to.

But pricing is funny, sometimes I have seen really sexy girls (IHMO) asking 2500 for ST in a popular Go Go where the barfine is 700 baht and on the same night an even sexier sexy girl will ask 2000 for ST in a different Go Go with 1500 baht barfine. So, its 3200 baht vs 3500 baht and the price differential doesn't much matter to me as long as I like the girl, think she is attractive, and she passes the audition.

Now we all have different preferences and tastes and they can be very subjective. Then add in financial considerations and you have aggregate demand. So, if one punter likes the girls at 1000 baht ST (Soi 6 Pattaya for example or Nana parking lot another example) for whatever reason, he will have a tendency to think 3200 or 3500 baht Go Go girls are a waste of money. Who am I to disagree with his preference. It's his money, his time, and his dick. Although I have studied a little human behavior theory, so I understand the thought process. Of course, a few pictures of any particular 1000 baht girl could settle the issue on the forum, for most of us, but then who cares really. My point is as long as you are having fun and getting what you want, be happy and let others do what makes them happy. I have done a few Soi 6 girls and Nana SW's in my time. I prefer the Go Go girls, but not all Go Go girls, just the ones I find attractive and like I said above, I do occasionally see a very doable girl in a different, less expensive venue. And on those occasions when I did not act fast, I lost the girl to someone else, at least for that night.

Part 2: My repeat girls vs New.

I really like my regular repeat girls. I know what they like. They know what I like. We get along and have great times. But with repetition comes familiarity and I am not a fan of familiar. That's why I always look forward to meeting New girls on every trip. It's exciting and stimulating to go to bed with a girl you haven't had before. I love it. The proof to me is in the duration. With all my regular girls, no matter how hot they are, no matter how good they are, it takes me longer to orgasm while with new girls, the ones who really turn me on, I orgasm much faster. I think of it as the over / under 20. Do you guys know what I mean? Example: Mini, known her since 2010. Sex is great. She is great. She has an outrageous sense of humor. She loves cowgirl and getting licked. But it takes me 45 to 50 minutes for me to cum with her. Same same with P & Bee (my CH repeat regulars) and even M & S (my lovely Burgos hotties). Thus, even my repeat threesomes have become somewhat "familiar" and I want to add NEW to the mix.

For example, I spent a lot of time with some new 2017 girls that I really liked like this skinny blond Twister girl. Ooh La La. I was showing Syzygies pictures of some of my girls and he stopped and made a positive comment about the skinny Twister girl. My first time with her was amazing. She performed a wicked BJ on me and then with a naughty smile on her face, she climbed up and impaled herself on my dick bareback. That girl made me cum in under 15 minutes. I couldn't hold out longer. Same Same with another thin blond girl that I met in Malio Club, Jakarta this last trip. My first time with her: bareback and under 15. I saw the Twister Blond 3 times and the Malio new girl 4 times on my last trip and my duration slowly increased to more than 30 minutes with each girl by the third session. I am sure that if I see either one of them again in 2018, which I am looking forward to doing, I will be up to 45 minutes by the 2nd or 3rd 2018 session. Not that I am complaining about longer durations. I like shagging long time. Position changes are great. So is having two girls at the same time. But just as a gage of my level of excitement, short durations with hot new girls cannot be dismissed as anything other than the fact that the girl really turned me on in an uncontrollable way. It is a fact of life, however, that this newness and excitement wears off all too soon.

Another issue that all likeminded punters have to deal with is that regular repeat girls eventually drop off the radar screen from time to time for a variety of reasons. Some reappear years later with a good story about getting engaged and moving to England or something. There are thousands of stories to be told. In any case, I always have the need and desire to replenish my little group of reliable "GF" sexy, little repeat, friends. Note: I do not consider a girl one of my repeat girls until I see her on the next trip. So, no matter how many times I may see a new girl on a particular trip I will still consider her a new girl until I see her again on the next trip.

In light of some of the recent conversations on the forum, I think an interesting issue is how I am able to arrange for a new girl to give me what I want and thus become a repeatable girl.

I never negotiate with a potential new girl about what I want from them or about money. It does kill the vibe and I am confident enough in my informal selection process to trust my instincts about a new girl. I begin with a positive attitude, I. E. That I am really glad to be out and about in the Go Go's and BKK nightlife and I am having a really good time. Next, I really like the girls and I am not kidding about this: I really like them! Thus, I don't treat the girls like they are lowly prostitutes, but rather, like they are attractive, desirable young Asian girls. No pedestal, I just see them as lovely desirable nyphs, that's all, and I swear I really think the girls pick up on this vibe. I could be wrong, but if I am, I don't know any other way to explain my high success ratio with so many BKK Go Go girls over the years.

Anyway, I am never in a hurry to barfine and I never go to a Go Go horny. When I first arrive in BKK I see my regular repeat girls first and have reunion sex with them. Then over the following days I hit the massage parlors to get rid of all my latent horniness. This usually takes 5 or 6 days. Then I am finally ready for the Go Go's.

It would take a few large paragraphs to describe what happens next, which I am not about to do now, but my hit ratio is very high meaning most of my 1st time girls perform very well with varying degrees of passion and sexual ability. Then with almost 100% of the new girls that I really like and want to see again, an intuitive understanding on their part of my desire for GFE without my explaining it to them. This results in extended follow-up repeat short times lasting anywhere from 3 to 5 hours which include dinner, afternoon pool parties (no barfines), tequila parties, and threesomes with their girlfriends. None of these girls shows the slightest interest in going back to their Go Go and looking for another customer. I don't pay them more for extended ST. It is never negotiated. It all just kind of happens. And even when things are not exactly going according to plan that initial night, I know how to salvage an otherwise mediocre session utilizing my cunnilingus skill, but it really helps to pick attractive, hygienic, young girls, because I do not go down on just anybody. 555. I am actually pretty picky that way.

Let me conclude by saying this: when a new girl really pleases me in bed, and in the bar, and in the restaurant, or wherever else I might take her that 1st night, I will most likely repeat with her. My problem is one of riches, not lack thereof. I find that there are many, many, really sexy, really attractive, NICE Go Go girls out there that I don't have enough time for them all. All you have to do is be a nice guy (not a rollover) and be willing to part with some cash. Yes, it is a buyers' market as long as you are willing accept the market price and not argue or feel bad about it. But if the current Go Go rates seem too extravagant, for whatever reason, then I strongly advise you to forget about this venue and look elsewhere. Go Go's are only one place in LOS, my favorite place, to find girls. There are several other valid venues to look and find what you want. That is part of what is so good about Thailand.

Gents,

I apologize in advance for this silly question, but I'm really not sure how would go about researching it otherwise as you don't see weather typically mentioned in reports, haha. Hopefully that's because it's not much of a factor. I've visited Bangkok a number of times, but never during the peak rainy season (I normally strike between mid October and February). To my understanding (from what I've seen on weather sites), late August through September sees the "worst" of the rain. How badly does this typically affect Gogos? Are they closed down; do the girls typically not show? Do you even bother going? I assume it doesn't matter much for "delivery" or MPs for that matter. The only reason I ask is because the one time it ever rained while I was there (not during rainy season), the flooding was pretty bad around my particular hotel and I was too drunk to go out and do anything anyways. Just curious if the rain would effectively render a trip pointless if it was going to be on the daily.

I already have a trip planned around the holidays, but honestly I'm bored so I feel like taking a short trip there within the next couple weeks. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Natty and I have a similar mindset. So I like his post and fun attitudes. I am perhaps a little more picky, more stubborn and don't have quite the same success rate, and probably party a little less than I used to.

I like to hit gogos when sexually deprived so I have no great difficulty to cum. Opposite to Natty. LOL

Re those 1 k street girls on Soi Nana. Yes I tried that once or twice. Girl's body was bad, train tracks and sunken bags for tits, no GFE and the girl expects no more than 30 minutes when I am a 60 to 90 min guy. Never found a 1 k girl worth repeating. Each was a waste of time really.

I need a much higher standard of girl to get turned on at all. Had a regular on Soi 4 for a while who fucked pretty good. However the face was sub standard for me, 2 kids, and in the end she started to want more money for a 90 min session that priced her out of contention with other better looking girls.

Fine for guys who just need a cheap piece of pussy. Did not find any girls worth repeating in Thermae either. Those girls generally prefer Asians so wrong place for me.

It is possible to find a good looking and fun very cheap girl in some MPs, Oilies and Soapies, but the hunt is not that easy for me. Can't see the girl naked for a start.

Two stunning girls got on BTS at On Nut other day. One was 5 ft 10 and curvy probably a model (not lady boy). The other looked very similar to Nuu Dee but stunning bigger tits and was texting in Cambodian script. Pointless to mention the stunners sometimes seen outside the P4P scene. Two others were dressed like hookers in cut off shorts with a small amount of bum cheek showing. Extreme sexy. I recognised them as Crazy House girls. Why they dress so hot on the BTS I don't know. I suppose dont want to be seen below their hottest looks. Flaunt it!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2074885]You are way off the mark (certainly not spot on). If you have never seen the super stars in a bar, then you certainly lack bar experience.

Obviously ugly girls have to take less than stunners for a ST, but really the amount of money per booking is not the main issue. I certainly don't hear of girls charging 3 times or even 2 times the typical rate. The top girls, if any still exist (I am sure there must be some) make big money because they have plenty of customers, and many of those will be repeat customers. They can get a new customer quickly if they need to. Gogo Girl ST rates in Cowboy and Nana typically range from 2k to 3k and if any girls take less than 2k, they must be really ugly or desperate.

You offer a top girl 2 K for ST, and I assure you she is not likely to be interested, unless she believes the job is a real quickie. She just does not have to take it. A better offer arrives soon.[/QUOTE]I assure you I don't lack bar experience. I have been happy to take the best looking girls in a bar and I have been perfectly happy to reject some of the best looking girls in a bar, including CH in its heyday.

To hear you, one would think the only thing that matters is how good looking the girl is and, bingo, she's a superstar, everyone in the bar is lining up to take her at all times and only a lucky few are bestowed the honor as long as they run to the bar quickly to get their place in line.

Nope.

I reject girls like that all the time because in my interview process I determine they would be lousy in bed and not worth my time and money. You and Natty both talk about how disinterested you are in, say, BBBJ+CIM. Well, I am not disinterested in that and many other customers are not disinterested in that. It matters. In some respects, that kind of sexual service is one of the few things a woman can do to BE good in bed. Otherwise, any girl can lay there with her legs open and earn a few baht. Good for you. But that isn't enough for many, many other customers. Looks aren't enough.

When I see those supposed superstar lookers exchanging conversation and a drink with a customer and then I see her cut loose from him and sent on her way without a barfine offer, which I see a LOT when it isn't a particularly busy night, I assume you automatically believe she rejected him because of some self-marketing pitch she would hand you like, "he was a cheap charlie", "I didn't like him" or some such bit. I am much more inclined to believe he rejected her because he got the distinct vibe that she would be lousy in bed and not worth his time and money just for the dubious honor of being seen walking out of the bar with the supposed best looking girl in the place.

Also, I wouldn't say a spread of 500 baht up or down is a big deal difference between your average go-go dancer and any of those super-stars. IMO, proof again that this idea of it being their market, a seller's market, where they call the shots on how much and how many is mostly a lot of hogwash. Although I am sure there are starry-eyed stage door Johnnies willing to believe anything the best looking girl in a room tells them about it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2075137]I assure you I don't lack bar experience. I have been happy to take the best looking girls in a bar and I have been perfectly happy to reject some of the best looking girls in a bar, including CH in its heyday.

To hear you, one would think the only thing that matters is how good looking the girl is and, bingo, she's a superstar, everyone in the bar is lining up to take her at all times and only a lucky few are bestowed the honor as long as they run to the bar quickly to get their place in line.

Nope.
[/QUOTE]Nope indeed. Again you exaggerate as always. Superstars are super stars in that they have a lot of customers vying for them. They are in demand. Does not mean for one second that I like all super star girls. Maybe not even 50% of them. I made it plain that some of them are not my taste. I obviously know a lot more about ones that were my taste. I don't go for any very raunchy ones or any plastic ones or any arrogant ones.

It may be true that I am going for the most stunning girl in the bar (to my taste) sometimes, if I like her personality, so not always. Being pretty only is not enough. Super star girls often have a lot of repeat customers. Those girls must be doing something right. Their business model works! Stunning girls can reject me also. They may prefer a Japanese guy or a younger macho guy. May look for easy customer with quick turnover. May look for someone to take them partying to the disco. Certainly have been knocked back by the odd stunner in Bacarra, as a prime example, and probably in every bar has happened, even in Long Gun years ago got knocked back by best two looking girls in the club. One of them eventually relented, after numerous tries, and went with me but was a poor starfish, the tall stunning Noi from Udon, so better to heed if the girl does not want you.

I have been known to grab a favourite stunner girl (Donut) for BF as soon as she came in the front door, she did not have a chance to get changed. I simply did not want to risk disappointment of being beaten to her. So there is no queue, only the winner and those who missed out. In Sharks last week, Pat had at least 3 possible customers at the same time requesting her, and I missed out. Simple as that. I acted very promptly but that was not enough. Another guy could be her regular, I would not know. Sure there were stacks of other girls available, who not my choice at the time. I sat with a Coyote girl but the vibe was not good enough, and I could not see her body well enough covered by double layer bra, and presumably the BF was steeper for Coyotes anyway. No one else was striving to get to her. Pretty and good shape, yes. It was not enough. I usually am careful to decide, except with the most exceptional looks, and even then will take a drink with the girl at least a few minutes before deciding.

With superstar girls, I believe in deciding on her while she is with me, before she must go back to dance, otherwise there is a very strong chance she will get called immediately by another customer. You must have seen these things. Even has happened a guy walks into a bar and barfines immediately a girl that is sitting with some other customer. That customer is then thoroughly pissed off, but these things happen.

Some of us go for specific girls. If we can't get the desired girl, we may just have to miss out. Fortunately I have several regulars remaining at CH and last Tuesday all of them were there. Almost swamped by sure thing girl choices. So yes it is a buyer's market right now. All my girls do BBBJ. I rarely take CIM so that is not a selection criteria. I rarely take anal, also not a selection criteria. Girls do not offer me their ass and I don't request it. I am also not going to be checking every girl to see who does BB sex. Like Natty I am not negotiating all types of services. I am more interested to see if the girl likes my type of customer, and is capable of having a relaxed fun time, can potentially give a GFE.

I have no issues with other guys having completely different selection criteria, like Pornstars, or bargain price, big sillies, or raunchy, etc.

I apologise to all the ugly and very ordinary girls in the bar that may be great on the bed, but I just hardly ever try them. It is not about taking sympathy fucks. I want to pay money to get a really hot choice, which includes looks, sometimes risk a shy pretty girl.

Why do these girls still work at bar? With so many repeat customers, can't they just become independent escorts, and even charge higher price. It seems easier and with more freedom. I know one did that and she isn't a superstar but has collected enough customers and sugar daddies.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2075148]Nope indeed. Again you exaggerate as always. Superstars are super stars in that they have a lot of customers vying for them. They are in demand. Does not mean for one second that I like all super star girls. Maybe not even 50% of them. I made it plain that some of them are not my taste. I obviously know a lot more about ones that were my taste. I don't go for any very raunchy ones or any plastic ones or any arrogant ones.

It may be true that I am going for the most stunning girl in the bar (to my taste) sometimes, if I like her personality, so not always. Being pretty only is not enough. Super star girls often have a lot of repeat customers. Those girls must be doing something right. Their business model works! Stunning girls can reject me also. They may prefer a Japanese guy or a younger macho guy. May look for easy customer with quick turnover. May look for someone to take them partying to the disco. Certainly have been knocked back by the odd stunner in Bacarra, as a prime example, and probably in every bar has happened, even in Long Gun years ago got knocked back by best two looking girls in the club. One of them eventually relented, after numerous tries, and went with me but was a poor starfish, the tall stunning Noi from Udon, so better to heed if the girl does not want you..[/QUOTE]

Great discussion, gentlemen. I have had very similar experiences. Now that I am old (mid-60's) and have let myself go to pot (probably 40 lbs overweight at least), I do have to exercise significant game to get any decent ladies to even sit and drink with me, much less accept a BF. This is made much worse by the fact that I have become incredibly picky in my ripened old state, meaning that there are many common characteristics which are a sufficient turn-off that it inhibits my bedroom performance (regardless of medication state) or prevents me from being able to cum at all (I hear you loud and clear Syzygies). For me, since my eyesight has significantly deteriorated over the past few years, gorgeous eye-candy stunners are not what does it for me. Sparkly fun personalities, a shape that I find attractive (thin, very petite spinners are my taste), and a lack of what I term garbage ornamentation. Piercings all over the place, excessive jewelry, tattoos, too much makeup, silicone tits, etc. - I detest all that stuff. So increasingly, it is very hard for me to locate those that I even wish to buy a drink for, and then most of those get filtered out in the pre-punting interview process. When I find a keeper, I often do keep her for several days. Overall GFE and fun-to-be-with is critical, as is bedroom performance (BBBJCIM is required, amongst other activities, I hear you EihTooms). I do hunt in the go-gos, but often run through every single bar in SC without finding a single keeper for the evening. Last trip I did exactly this, then took the BTS over to Nana to try my luck there, and stopped for a beer at the bar just outside the entrance (forget the name now) and sat watching the folks strolling past. Surprisingly, I spotted what I considered to be a good target there (tiny, nice sexy black dress, classy looking, no visible tats or facial piercings), and brought her a drink. She was ignored by many I suspect because of age (35), and she looked like she was herself hunting. Not a lot of smiles, eyes scanning the punters and moving on, etc. She had a perfect body. FOR ME, YMMV. I took her back. 4000 LT +BF I think was 700, hard to remember now. Performance in bedroom was quite good, but not perfect, so did not go back for her the next day (no CIM). More than I usually like to spend, but I have no complaints (other than the fact I wish she had indeed checked off all the boxes, but perfection is hard to find).

So the takeaway is that we all are looking for something a little different, and everyone has to exercise whatever techniques work for them. Unless you are on a very strict budget, then don't let 500 or even 1000 baht one way or the other cause you to miss out on some great times. But definitely be picky and don't just grab the first piece of ass that comes by. There is no doubt if I lived there, instead of only coming for a week or two every year or three, I'd have a stable of regulars that were all ideal. FOR ME. Everyone needs something a bit different.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2074257]Hi,

We are Australians so does that make it easier?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No, they lump all foreigners together. Unless you have a VIP pass you just have to wait.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2074992]. There are several other valid venues to look and find what you want. That is part of what is so good about Thailand.[/QUOTE]While appreciating it's somewhat self-indulgent and self congratulatory Natty's post exemplifies a mature knowledgeable approach on how to make the most of the exceptional lifestyle that visiting and living here affords us. I really don't understand the whining that appears on the forum all too often.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2074257]Hi,

We are planning our first trip to Thailand and I'm wondering how long the immigration process can be? I am familiar with Bali immigration queues, can be 1 to 1 1/2 hours. We are Australians so does that make it easier?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter whether you are Australian or Chinese or Indian while departing, all goes in the same row. If your flight is departing between late afternoon and late evening time, then be prepared to face a huge crowd when compared to other timings of the day. I'd suggest reaching Airport at least 1.5 hrs before departure, you never know when few counters will get closed. Better safe than missing the flight.

May be, it's better we discuss this on General Reports section.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2075152]Why do these girls still work at bar? With so many repeat customers, can't they just become independent escorts, and even charge higher price. It seems easier and with more freedom. I know one did that and she isn't a superstar but has collected enough customers and sugar daddies.[/QUOTE]I did say the super stars rarely last long, before they get one or sugar daddies to sponser them, unless their money requirements are just too high.

[QUOTE=DiveMonger;2075238]So the takeaway is that we all are looking for something a little different, and everyone has to exercise whatever techniques work for them. Unless you are on a very strict budget, then don't let 500 or even 1000 baht one way or the other cause you to miss out on some great times. But definitely be picky and don't just grab the first piece of ass that comes by. There is no doubt if I lived there, instead of only coming for a week or two every year or three, I'd have a stable of regulars that were all ideal. FOR ME. Everyone needs something a bit different.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I found your post very entertaining / amusing (in a good way).

It is getting very tough to find girls with no tats, so learned to accept them long ago. Perhaps my CH Girl Oom fits all your specs with no tats (from memory. Or did I forget some tiny one).