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[QUOTE=Turgid;2858223]In his post he mentioned that the girl who was sponsored by the Brit went home which means that she was unavailable for boots on the ground. Sending them money from abroad lessens the availability for farangs in Patts.[/QUOTE]Trust me. There are no Shortages of the kind of girls Explorer likes. They're Everywhere. Why no laughing emoticon.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2858133]October is a transitional month in Pattaya. It's still quiet, especially at the beginning of the month, and the ramp up of customers is imperceptable. So, this is the time when some marginal ladies give up and go home, and not so many new ladies arrive.
However, this is the month where more "special customers" arrive, the guys who barfined a lady last year, and are now coming back specifically to barfine her again (the famous "customer before".
The "Made in Thailand" complex is now open again, pretty much same as before it was torn down. It's right next to TreeTown, a massive complex of open bars.
Next month is when the numbers really ramp up, so October is a good time to come to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Anytime is the right time to come to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2858322]It's okay to pay a bargirl 2,000 thb if she is drunk, annoying and pukes all the while talking stories about sponsors or thai husbands.[/QUOTE]You are referring to the ladies who come to my condo to drink. Very few get to the point of throwing up, most are in bed by that time.
But yes, once they have had a few drinks, they spill the beans. There are some who complain about their customers, but some others complain about their Thai boyfriends. If they have a real Farang boyfriend, I won't fuck them, but if it's a sponsor, no problem.
For me, 2000 baht for Long Time is a great deal. The ladies seem happy, at least during Low Season, as they all want to come back.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2858209]LOL. And husbands. And boyfriends. I was never worried about the normal chicks that I used to fuck boyfriends and husbands, but he is obsessed with those of the chicks he is paying.
.[/QUOTE]If a bargirl has a real Farang boyfriend, I won't fuck her.
If she has a Thai boyfriend or husband, I don't care, he gets a cut from her work.
There are some Thai ladies who are only allowed by their Thai boyfriend to go Long Time with me (no idea why, except I am "customer before" There is one whose boyfriend checks my Facebook to make sure I am in Pattaya when she says she is going with me. So, if she goes LT with someone else, she tells me not to post on FB.
The main reason I mention the inevitable Thai boyfriend is to alert Lonely Guys that their new bargirl soul mate may have a Thai boyfriend, so be careful, maybe she doesn't really luv you.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2858136]Why are you so fixated on Sponsors and bargirls? We've read it over and over from you. We get it! Don't give money to a bargirl unless it's to bang her. <waiting for your next sponsored bargirl post>.
I may have another HAMSTER coffin box story first though.
I have tons and tons of photos and video of girls and customers in Soi 6, gogo bars, beer bars, and G clubs. No owner or girl has ever said don't video to me. Some girls do turn away so I try not to video them. I usually let the girls video inside a gogo bar. A customer confronted me once thinking I was shooting him. Showed him the video and he was cool with it. It's fine to do it. It's not fine to post it on Social Media.[/QUOTE]From my vast experience in life, this is usually termed "Psychosis Marony LOL!
He most likely experienced himself or someone very close being burned by a bargirl who had money sent to them. A drama that has stuck to his thinking and sealed his generalization that if he was given a lie detector test would pass with flying colors because he deeply believes it then at his age it will stick for life proof the past few years he writes the same comments. Being a concern person wants to make sure others don't far into the same trap thus the constant repeat.
All girls have Thai boyfriends and are being sent money while they work, All factory girls never have been in the business, Thai bars are only venture by Thai guys, and a Thai guy sitting at a bar is the Thai lady's boyfriend. We have heard all his same stories over the past few years personally to each his own but my takeaway from them is the amount of drinking in my definition his liver must have been shot got to be an alcoholic in denial, then the amount of traveling at times he is two places at one time.
It would make any reader suspect? For me to each his own! LOL!
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2857374]Yea, I copied everything there from the thread on PA.
Only reason the thread is in a hidden section is because they also have a several-hundred page long thread of TF reviews. Most of the entries on the site are from the PA review section. Absolutely worth your time to get a membership there. It's free. Just post about and don't be rude.
And hopefully they don't inflate the prices and the girl's egos like on walking street. Though if prices stay the same, I see good things about having more of a 'variety' on soi 6. It would go nicely with the new (quiet!) GC that opened.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2858357]From my vast experience in life, this is usually termed "Psychosis Marony LOL!
He most likely experienced himself or someone very close being burned by a bargirl who had money sent to them. A drama that has stuck to his thinking and sealed his generalization that if he was given a lie detector test would pass with flying colors because he deeply believes it then at his age it will stick for life proof the past few years he writes the same comments. Being a concern person wants to make sure others don't far into the same trap thus the constant repeat.
All girls have Thai boyfriends and are being sent money while they work, All factory girls never have been in the business, Thai bars are only venture by Thai guys, and a Thai guy sitting at a bar is the Thai lady's boyfriend. We have heard all his same stories over the past few years personally to each his own but my takeaway from them is the amount of drinking in my definition his liver must have been shot got to be an alcoholic in denial, then the amount of traveling at times he is two places at one time.
It would make any reader suspect? For me to each his own! LOL![/QUOTE]Littlebigman, that is quite a reasonable synopsis based on Explorers posts.
Having met him, chatted with him, and the twins LOL, exploring (sic) his background, and getting an insight to his character from that.
My opinion for you on one topic, his travels, is that he is not lying about it at all.
He has the financial means and wherewithal to travel extensively often and freely almost on a whim, and does so often.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2858357]From my vast experience in life, this is usually termed "Psychosis Marony LOL!
He most likely experienced himself or someone very close being burned by a bargirl who had money sent to them. A drama that has stuck to his thinking and sealed his generalization that if he was given a lie detector test would pass with flying colors because he deeply believes it then at his age it will stick for life proof the past few years he writes the same comments. Being a concern person wants to make sure others don't far into the same trap thus the constant repeat.
All girls have Thai boyfriends and are being sent money while they work, All factory girls never have been in the business, Thai bars are only venture by Thai guys, and a Thai guy sitting at a bar is the Thai lady's boyfriend. We have heard all his same stories over the past few years personally to each his own but my takeaway from them is the amount of drinking in my definition his liver must have been shot got to be an alcoholic in denial, then the amount of traveling at times he is two places at one time.
It would make any reader suspect? For me to each his own! LOL![/QUOTE]Nobody cares about me, I'm just a poster here.
But, there are tons of guys who make the mistake of falling in love with a bargirl and blowing huge amounts of cash on her. The worst cases are those guys who move to Thailand and use their life savings to build a house for their bargirl. Afterwards, the bargirl "breaks up" with them, and her Thai boyfriend moves in. The guy is homeless and broke, they often commit suicide in Pattaya.
Lots of variations of the above, be careful in Thailand.
My liver is fine, I really don't drink that much.
Later today, I am starting a 3 day trip to lovely Tijuana, Mexico. Sorry if it appears I am in 2 places at once.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2858407]But, there are tons of guys who make the mistake of falling in love with a bargirl and blowing huge amounts of cash on her. The worst cases are those guys who move to Thailand and use their life savings to build a house for their bargirl.[/QUOTE]And guess what? They are still going to do it no matter how much they are told not to, because they have a good heart and their girl is different.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2858407]Nobody cares about me, I'm just a poster here.
But, there are tons of guys who make the mistake of falling in love with a bargirl and blowing huge amounts of cash on her. The worst cases are those guys who move to Thailand and use their life savings to build a house for their bargirl. Afterwards, the bargirl "breaks up" with them, and her Thai boyfriend moves in. The guy is homeless and broke, they often commit suicide in Pattaya.
Lots of variations of the above, be careful in Thailand.
My liver is fine, I really don't drink that much.
Later today, I am starting a 3 day trip to lovely Tijuana, Mexico. Sorry if it appears I am in 2 places at once.[/QUOTE]Obvious people do care about what you write. Seem I hit s nerve guess the diagnoses was spot on based on your response.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2858363]Littlebigman, that is quite a reasonable synopsis based on Explorers posts.
Having met him, chatted with him, and the twins LOL, exploring (sic) his background, and getting an insight to his character from that.
My opinion for you on one topic, his travels, is that he is not lying about it at all.
He has the financial means and wherewithal to travel extensively often and freely almost on a whim, and does so often.[/QUOTE]My response is based on the responses to his post from others who are questioning, speaking for myself his obsession generalizing is just that particularly the constant Thai boyfriend and they being supported. As I noted back once told him he is very naive but if it works for him more power to him. I know and met hundreds of expat living here and visiting one thing is common just because you meet and tell you doesn't make it so. I've not said he is a liar but there seem to be a few on this board that has doubts.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2858466]Obvious people do care about what you write. Seem I hit s nerve guess the diagnoses was spot on based on your response.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is like Disneyland for mongers, so many come here and are overwhelmed by the 1000's of ladies screaming "welcome hansum man". But some take it too seriously, and the results can be fatal.
I am trying to inject a little reality into the conversation, in the hopes that some guys will think twice before blowing their life savings on a bargirl.
Its okay to hand your money to a bargirl in exchange for services rendered. You are free to overpay. The problem comes when you are in love with a bargirl and you send her money when you go home. Giving a bargirl money for nothing is bad for you and other mongers, as well.
Living in Pattaya for many years, I have seen the results when a sponsor comes to the realization that "their" bargirl doesn't love them, and they have blown all their money for nothing. In extreme cases, this results in a dive off a condo balcony.
No, I have never been personally burned by a bargirl, although some have tried. But I have seen it happen to lots of other guys.
Be careful out there!
[QUOTE=RajPatela;2858351]Anytime is the right time to come to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I usually bail from Pattaya in December. January, too many customers.
Plus, Bolt is overloaded, too many Bolt customers.
The ladies get top dollar from 2 week millionaires, plus that's when the sponsors usually visit Thailand, so their "girlfriends" are busy.
Bad time to go to Pattaya. Although its better than December in Birmingham.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2858466]Obvious people do care about what you write. Seem I hit s nerve guess the diagnoses was spot on based on your response.[/QUOTE]Why would someone care? 99% of his post have no added value to this forum?
He never gives info about girls. Just brags he bangs all the time.
Chick comes. She drinks, They fuck. BF is involved and a farang sponsor. It's the same story every post.
However you gain NO information about Pattaya at ALL from these post.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2858245]230 baht lady drinks prices for ALL girls, (models, coyotes, hostesses) is pretty ridiculous at Palace. I remember when drinks were 150 for coyotes. Inflation did not go up 50%.[/QUOTE]I remember when there weren't models/hostesses and LD on WS were 100/120 baht, 60/80 baht on Soi 6 and G clubs. Does this mean the girls are making more per drink now or do the girls still make the same 50 baht they made at 120 baht LD as they do on 230 baht LD?
Higher prices means fewer drinks for the girls from me. I'm down to Panda, Cat Ears, and Cutest Girl Ever at Palace for drinks.
[QUOTE=StLouisMo2010;2858247]I will be back in Jomtien in 2024 for my 74th Birthday.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jim2288;2858285]Overall, great trip. Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]
Buried in all our trash talk here are 2 very well thought out reviews by StL and Jim. Please go back a page and read them if you enjoy actual reviews that name bars and girls. Thanks guys for the information.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2858513] do the girls still make the same 50 baht they made at 120 baht LD as they do on 230 baht LD? .[/QUOTE]Most of the margin is going to the bars. I read somewhere they get now about 70-80 THB per drink.
So they got 42% first. Now down to 35%. However that does make sense a bit because the salaries went up for most models / coyotes in most bars.
To give you an idea.
OneNightJack.
Models 20 K for 10 days / 60 drinks = 60 x220 = 13.200.
Coyote 15 K for 10 days / 55 drinks = 55 x220 = 12.100.
Trow in 2 "mandatory" barfines a 2. 000. And you see the risk for hiring staff is very low.
Penalty for not making the drink quota? They need to pay it themselves (deducted from salary at full price).
So the 70-80 per drink is after they make their quota. Not on the first 60/55 drinks in this example.