Bangkok Reports

I just read that antigen and antibody tests for HIV are very quick but far from a clean bill of health conclusive.

PCR and NAAT tests seem to take longer up to 10 days to get the result, but can detect HIV within 2 weeks of exposure or less. Not 3 months.

So seems like for those wanting a clean bill of health, forget the antigen / antibody test where a negative means so little. This test is more designed for someone who got HIV recently to find out quick and start treatments prophylaxis etc. However the negative result from these means not so much.

So good that the Red Cross Clinic is doing the follow up NAAT test to give a more definite result, to make the worried person confident in the Negative.

Obviously I am no expert on the topic. Just interested in the research. I have a girl who wants to see my clean bill of health Guarantee. So I will be getting either the PCR or NAAT test. My Gik girl is not dumb, and knows guys tell lots of lies about condom use, condom accidents, breaks, slippages, etc. so she wants all possible evidence to be sure I am exceedingly low risk to her. I actually tell her the truth about other girls done but she is still sceptical about whether it is 100% truth. LOL

Seems that the Red Cross Anonymous clinic not only has a good price, but the tests are best practice comprehensive for HIV. Including fast Duo test initially, followed up by NAAT with that result later for surety. So obviously worth the trip to there. These practices eliminate the former 3 months for detection.

I really have not ever chased women in BKK for part of our hobby and indeed have not really stayed here anytime in the last 15 years or so. I am actually in many ways disappointed by the "globalization" of the city and at the same time kind of pleased. Much of yesterday I assumed I was in the rough parts of Lebanon or Egypt or having a flashback from my time living in Japan (height of the economic bubble).

I RTFF for the last 20 pages or so before I got here. Formed a plan, SMEAC. Walked out of the Westin and straight to Cowboy and my little brain promptly forgot everything I had planned. Definitely an ex military type.

1. I tried Baccaro just to see if it reminded me of the hostess / * bars in Tokyo. Meh it is full of low-mid level JAP guys and some really hot ladies but I am sure one quoted me a 3000 BAHT bar fine. Feck, last time I paid for puxxy in BKK it was quoted 3000 for a week.

2. Anyway, I was sober as a judge and headed to the very nice Sharks where I met several A+ types but seeing I was drinking (against doctors orders) I promptly forgot I was meant to be looking for PAT. I had 2 ladies sit with me and they were a lot of fun, groped the little fella and played with me a bit. I ran up a bit of a bill as they were drinking 2 for every one of mine, but, I do like the outfits they wear in there. I also like to feel what a lady's touch is like before buying. Ended up taking one of the ladies for the night. I negotiated a deal which kind of confused her. I said 500 Baht per pop and 2000 Bht LT plus tip or I would pay her 4000 Baht plus drinks, dinner, breakfast, lunch and a tip. I told her if she didn't want to do that deal on a Sunday night I would just go to her friend or another girl there. She went for the latter deal which I said I would pay in increments based on performance. Paid the BF and took off around the corner to the Westin. This was around 10 pm Sun night and by 1 am I think she realised she should have taken deal 1. I got off quite a few pops in the 1st hour as she blew me like a PSE rock goddess. I came the 1st time quicker than you can say, "Starbucks sucks". She actually laughed a little until I got to the DATY and 2nd BBBJ. I had trouble getting hard and so we ended up trying semi-erect sex. She is a tiny thing, a real spinner but with a bit of meat on top. She was starting to complain that my meager 6" was too much for her (we know where this is headed). I took her to the bathroom and got in the shower and had her jerk me off. I get better orgasms that way. Now she says she has to go check her phone. So I pop 2nd and 3rd time in the shower within 20 minutes of being in there, she gets out and checks her phone, towels off and I get out and head to the bed. I tell her we can 69 and then if she likes I will pay her out 2000 and she can leave back to her friends.

Anyway, I told her I always had my best O on the 3rd pop so she could do me orally for the 4th and we could call the deal short and she could go with 2000 Baht. Then she tells me she gets more than that ST and this has been LT. I reminded her of the deal which had been set in stone (well stone being on my text MSG) so she decided to stay as agreed. I told her I like her very much and am a nice person and that maybe she can chaperone me around for the next 2 days at the rate of 5000 Bht plus extras per day but I was told she had to work. Emphasis on had to. Meh.

We slept and around 9 am got up and had straight mish and then her on top and another shower for a total of 5 pops in the 12 hours or so and then I took her to the really nice Argentinian steak place for dinner that night. Winner, she lit up like a pinball machine, banged me really nicely and DATY, 69 etc and she said I should come back with her to Sharks and take her out again.

Face looks 92/100.

Body 87/100.

Attitude in bar 100/100.

Attitude at hotel 80/100.

Performance Oral 85/100.

Sex 55/100.

Temperament 85/100.

Overall. Once she realised I was not going to screw her (financially) and we had some trust she became like a GFE. Before that, in the bar she was 100/100 nice, when we got to the shower part and pops 2 and 3 I could tell she was a bit peeved. After the sex stopped she was much more relaxed. She has been doing this 18 months or so if I believe what she said. Very nice lady. She said many of the Japanese and some white guys treat them terribly so she was a bit stressed initially.

Total damage in cash for BF, 22 hours or so of her time and her extra fees and some small presents around 7 k (restaurant was put on my co credit card so not counted).

I wrote a long report and DOHHHHHH the effing forum ate it.

Notes.

1. Tried Nana and did the ladyboy walk of shame, got felt up really good by one SHIM, told him that was a sexual assault and if I did the same I would be in some strife!

2. Had a drink or 3 at Dragons Head.

3. Had a drink and BJ relief at Kangaroo Bar? Name, well worth a drink and suck once in your life.

4. Went to the old Superstar bar, only place I really recall as many gun runners and drug dealers met there in the 80's.

5. Bunnies Bar and the smaller bar next door are fun so am heading there tonight in Nana.

6. Got one university lass from Thermae, a real looker but ditched her right away at my hotel as she tried to change the deal. Went back right away (11 pm or so) and picked up a late 30 something local for 1200 Baht plus tip for LT and got blown like a rock star. She is a pharmacy worker by day, FL part time at night.

More to follow. Having fun and keeping the alcohol bill relatively low!

There are indeed many post OP lady boys in Nana, some quite stunning and 2 or 3 I could not tell the difference outside of the plastic boobs, until the manager or other local told me.

"Be careful out there".

I have been in Sharks about 4 times recently, so am getting pretty used to it. It is definitely more boring than Crazy House, same could be said of most bars. However Sharks has a reasonable level of customers even on a Monday. Not a dead bar.

The gogo girls are generally soso. Quite a few average looks and average faces, not too ugly like in some bars. Not many good sets of tits on show with the see through tops. Some girls have small saggy tits, and others have enhanced. So maybe better if you are a silicone fan, or prefer girls not as slim as what I go for. Relatively plain hairstyles works for me (I don't like Bacarra hair). Quite a few broadish and flattened Issan noses on the gogo and Coyote girls. Not quite my spec. Relatively fewer nose jobs than some bars.

I think less picky guys will think the girls are a pretty high standard. Certainly above plenty of other bars.

Most of the really hot looking girls are in the Coyote section. The problem is the tits are extremely covered by multi-layer push up bras, so have no clue how much tit the girl has and how saggy it will be when not pushed up. So probably 3 or 4 cute Coyotes, but I would love to see the tits properly before taking further interest. Anyhow the BF is high for Coyotes, but they may well take 2. 5 K for the ST, I did not really persue it.

So I don't really spot even one pair of tits with shape perfection in Sharks. Maybe some girl has them, but which one? This is why I like Crazy House. Get to see properly some girls with lovely tits, plenty of sleek model bodies naked. If girl has no tits, at least I know that in advance. At least I can filter out extreme sag bags and hard coconut shells.

So in Sharks I have my well know semi-voluptuous girl kissy Pat with enhanced double Dees, but so soft the inflation bags cannot be detected by touch. Just the size and weight gives away the enhancements. The other girls are not tempting me so far. Easier to take the sure thing girl. Pat was sitting with a customer so had to wait patiently. He was entertaining more than one girl.

All these bars ought to have a private booth where a Coyote girl could get the gear off and give you a nude or G-string only lap dance for some reasonable fee, in order to decide better if she is worth BFing. In order to see what would be buying. You could get the 2 or 3 most promising girls to all get nude and then make a choice. Maybe groping Coyote girl tits is a possibility, despite the layers of armour. Or maybe I can bribe girls to take the top off, I don't know exactly.

Crazy is so much easier where girls are nude, or if they are not nude, you just massage their tits and pull up the skirt to see the lower areas properly (no knickers). Plenty of groping goes on. Girls grind their pussies against you.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2077263]First off, please excuse my previous reports. Purchased a new phone before I went on holiday and its totally changing lots of words.

Took it easy today. Think I ate some bad food or something. Went to Patpong and checked out King's castle 1 & 2, Badabing, and the strip.

I went to Kings castle 2 first I believe. The one on the left? Had lots of talent about 8 pm. No customers. I somehow got the worse seat in the house right about the bass speaker. Had two ladies that had my interest but I pulled myself away thinking I come back. Not like a customer was going to steal them away.

2nd stop was bada bing. Badabing was pretty slim pickings. 8-10 ladies. Maybe 2 ladies even a possibility. But none were really dancing. Just talking to each other on stage. Had 3 people in there. It was about 930 pm. Had one beer and left. Have no intentions on going back there. Very boring.

I did walk past kings corner 2 and take s peek. Wow! If a guy didn't know any better he could really be in for a surprise there. Must admit.

On over to the strip I peeked inside. I chose not to stay partially due to wanting to check out the other kings castle but kept having one of the ladies from night before calling / texting me on line. I would return for a beverage to further investigate. It by no means was a party like my next stop but could of been interesting.

Kings Castle 1? One on the right. Wowzers. Place was packed and the ladies were getting it. Hands down my favorite gogo bar of the trip..[/QUOTE]Man,

That's serious coin at KC1, especially for a new girl? I haven't been there for a good year or so but I have never paid anything like that and I don't budge over 3 k for ST and 5 k for LT, plus a couple of hundred tip / taxi. I shan't be heading back soon if that's what the are quoting, YMMV I guess.

So my day back after being away, already got my BJ in the arvo from Letter G at Wood Bar, sent a Line message to Aom No 3 at Crazy House I was back and hoping to meet up that night, alas no luck, never mind other opportunities abound.

Headed to NP to meet up with mate for a few, watched the girls roll in as the sun set enjoying a few at Tiki Bar. Headed up to Spankys to see if one of my girls was working, not in but we enjoyed the show for a couple of hours, not as much as the guy a few seats along who already had two bring ins, splashing his cash around far too easily especially on the Lao girl who does the pole work and shower show, she's fit and with big fakes, him and his girls must of spent 20 k on tipping her alone in the couple of hours I was there. My mate had to bail about 10.30 so I headed to Cowboy and CH to see if Aom was working, nope, headed upstairs just in time to see the old bird do her balloon trick, not my thing, finished my beer and headed downstairs, got a seat straight away stage front. Quantity was a bit low as I guess many had already been BF, quality was still pretty good. Started eyeing up one blonde, one brunette who both quickly noticed and moved in my direction, waving there asses just above my nose, never get sick of that sight, blonde had fakes but nicely done and not too big, When the blonde finished her dancing came down and straight over sitting on my lap, rubbing her ass all over me, making sure my hands were all over her tits, number 40, name was Nuce, good English, the brunette continued to hover over my face, so the two of us were grabbing her pussy and smacking her ass, she stopped dancing and came down and joined us, not sure No. But her name I think was Niki, they seemed to work really well together and thought cool I will take them both, but Niki was starting to show signs of being really drunk, so pulled the pin on that.

Nuce was hot and keen, so decided to take her ST paid BF of 700 b, headed to the ST hotel just outside Cowboy Soi 21 end. Quick shower and straight to DATY, gave her the best I had, she was squealing and being a little too much into it, I prefer the more natural noise than the PSE ones, Had a rest and a chat for 5 minutes, she found out I knew quite a few of the girls there and we chatted about them and showed each other photos, seem to relax her and a quick BBBJ later, condom was on and she was way more natural but still showing her enjoyment. Fucked her in miss, cowgirl, doggy before needing to get some breath back, got into 69 and ate her pussy and ass for about 10 minutes, let me put a finger in her ass but wouldn't do anal, which was a shame, but maybe next time, got her back into doggy and smashed away until I unloaded, lay there chatting for another 10 minutes, 80000 b for her tits but certainly got a very decent job done, swapped Line ID, took a few photos, quick shower then out, 3000 b for the service and I gave her 200 b for tip / taxi.

I was doing RTTF of reports of past many months. I am from India and we four people are travelling to Bangkok in Oct. In one report it was written that Indians are not allowed at Crazy House and normally only whites and other Asians like Japs are allowed in. Can anyone update on that piece of information.

Are there nude dancers in Dolls House which welcome Indians? . Do high end soapies like Lords, Poseidon show racial discrimination? We are not budget travellers but high spending group.

Anybody with knowledge of above matters, please report in forum or pm me.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2075881]Just go to Sukhumvit Soi 8 , enter the second alley on your right side, you will find the BJ bar named LO. LI. TAS. Pick a girl (they are usually staying outside) , go upstairs with her and she will take care of you. I can suggest you to ask for the girl named Ma. You will pay 850 Baht when you come down, you may give her a tip if she was very good, or you may not give anything at all, it's up to you. If you don't find a girl to your liking, just continue in that small alley and turn on your left, you will find another place that looks like a bar, with girls wearing a uniform and sitting outside. That place is named Kasalong and it follows the same routine, price might be a little bit different. You can be relax when going in these places, you're not going to get conned.[/QUOTE]I love both of those places. Going back in October, can't wait to visit a few times then.

A day time BJ at either of those places, on top of nighttime running around town can wear you out after 10 days or so, but I'm ready!

I've never been to either of them at night, is the talent better then?

[QUOTE=StudFarm;2077799]I was doing RTTF of reports of past many months. I am from India and we four people are travelling to Bangkok in Oct. In one report it was written that Indians are not allowed at Crazy House and normally only whites and other Asians like Japs are allowed in. Can anyone update on that piece of information.

Are there nude dancers in Dolls House which welcome Indians? . Do high end soapies like Lords, Poseidon show racial discrimination? We are not budget travellers but high spending group.

Anybody with knowledge of above matters, please report in forum or pm me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I was in Bangkok last March and went to crazy house three times. I am from India and never faced any issues in any of the places including Bacara. Only point is I went alone and have seen the security being more stricter with groups. I have also visited the soapies and I don't think there is a screening process at all. In one occasion, I was in iron club in Pattaya and the club had to throw a group out as they were creating ruckus. So I think if you can go individually and pump money then it will be OK.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2077263] So I tried negotiating LT with min. Mamasan quoted me a crazy price (12500) and then when it was reasonable to me (8500). She said min had school next day. So I settled with ST for 5 k including BF. I know what some of your response would be to this price. But to the guys who pay a little more. Was this out of line?

So once back at the hotel we showered and she was a bit shy. What I get for going with younger ones huh? No cunninglous. Barely a BBBJ. But I did force the issue and got another partial. LOL. I'd say she was dick scared like some of you state. But man I'd do it again! Body 10 for my taste. A tit man would probably rate it down to a 8. Personality 8. Face 8. In bed experience 6. Would I repeat. Yes! Sexy as F![/QUOTE]Yes the price was very high. I am not in the price police though.

I avoid dealing with mamasans like the plague. However it is easy for me to say being a Thai speaker. It is not too unusual for a very young gorgeous thing to be a bit of a dud for service, but not always. The prettiest 2 bargirls I ever had in Crazy House were both good. One did not even negotiate a price at all. Her BBBJ wasn't great due to braces but the rest was very good.

I do understand the desire to keep fucking a stunner. However based on weak service you might pay a lot less.

[QUOTE=StudFarm;2077799]I was doing RTTF of reports of past many months. I am from India and we four people are travelling to Bangkok in Oct. In one report it was written that Indians are not allowed at Crazy House and normally only whites and other Asians like Japs are allowed in. Can anyone update on that piece of information.

Are there nude dancers in Dolls House which welcome Indians? . Do high end soapies like Lords, Poseidon show racial discrimination? We are not budget travellers but high spending group.

Anybody with knowledge of above matters, please report in forum or pm me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think will be difficult to get in Crazy, especially if a group of 4. If was in a different mixed country group, may be possible.

Long gun has some nude girls. Soso for me (I like skinny) but might be your spec. Doll's house probably has some nude uglies too. I did not check recently enough.

After grueling day at work and formal dinner, headed to Soi Cowboy for a stroll. Somehow didn't like the crowd (it was raining that day, or maybe I wasn't drunk enough) so moved to Nana Plaza. Lots of options (more than Soi, IMO) - went to Twisters. Here's brief FR:

Ambience: 9/10 - 2 L shaped dance floors. You can stand below and see, or use the stools (good if you want to grind and dance) and tiered sofas (dark, good for some private time, but girls usually sit by your side, unless of course they are trying to woo you). Music was awesome!

Girls: All Ladies. Mostly average, but 2-3 gems, need to sit and wait for the right ones to show up. Picked 1 - Very cute but was not able to hold conversation in English well. 2 drinks. Allowed top touch, light pecks and one sanity check downstairs. Stayed for 15-20 minutes, if I remember correctly. Second one. Similar experience, wasn't that cute. The group on stage changes after 20-30 minutes (Was drunk, time may be wrong) so makes sense to wait for a while.

Friendliness (10/10) : Also, ladies not on the bar were very very friendly (and not in a salesy way) - I chit chatted with one who was sitting beside me for 15 minutes, without any asks. Just talked! Mamasan was supe helpful and friendly.

Price: No cover charge. Barfine was 1000 Baht (asked, but didn't take). 160 Baht for Chang; 190 B for lady drink (didn't try other bars at plaza, so can't comment).

Was to drunk. Somehow kissed a ladyboy while leaving Nana Plaza:

Friends pulled me and saved the night!!

Try Twister at Nana Plaza. I haven't been to many, but this place was real friendly. One friend was a first timer and is getting engaged in Nov. Mamasan sat with her, explained stuff and pulled his leg a lot. Girls were friendly too. Overall good experience -Zero discrimination I'd say.

Seniors can recommend other places too!

LC.

[QUOTE=StudFarm;2077799]I was doing RTTF of reports of past many months. I am from India and we four people are travelling to Bangkok in Oct. In one report it was written that Indians are not allowed at Crazy House and normally only whites and other Asians like Japs are allowed in. Can anyone update on that piece of information.

Are there nude dancers in Dolls House which welcome Indians? . Do high end soapies like Lords, Poseidon show racial discrimination? We are not budget travellers but high spending group.

Anybody with knowledge of above matters, please report in forum or pm me.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Seniors for recommending BJ Bars. Tried my first (and second!) within 2 hours.

Went to Som's Haven at 7 pm. Was expecting crowd and sounds etc. As seniors had told that the rooms are not really sound proof But, to my surprise, zerocustomers! 15-20 girls were chilling outside. Chose one (was my first time so didn't take my time, lady looked little less young in real light:

Learning from mistakes). Name was N.

No customers. So the lady had ample time. Sat in the common area, took drinks. Made me comfortable, was friendly. Asked if you want boom boom:-the Politely said no. Then went upstairs. Same story- she washed her mouth and then johnny. Took clothes off (Top Bottom innerwear were still On). Put some oil. Then the magic started. Balls, base, shaft, deep. Everything. Asked her to remove top. She took off everything and gave a nice lap dance and straddle for sometime. Went back to work. All touches and kisses were allowed. Knew what she was doing. Pretty good experience.

Ended with CIM. We stil had 15 minutes so we just talked for 5 minutes. Asked me in the end "Are you happy" - and I was.

Walked to Wood Bar after this (FR in another report).

Face- 5/10.

GFE- 10/10.

BBBJ- 8/10.

Damage- 700 for BJ + 100 (Chang Beer) + 150 (Lady Drink, she didn't ask. I had offered) + 200 Tip.

WIR. In longer run yes, but with the amount of time I have, will explore other bars too!

Safe mongering!

LC.