Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=XXL;2859459]It now seems to be established practice at Soi 6 for comparatively young better-looking girls to expect more than the standard 1000. Sometimes they will quote their price, sometimes they will first ask "how much you give me"? Maybe nothing has changed and they're only the same girls as those who have always wanted lady drinks before going to the room.[/QUOTE]It's not something new, already been the case a few months ago.

Some girls are trying to pin a starting price at 1500 (some others at 2 K) but you're not entitled to pay that price. There is always room for negotiation but it can be done better when you're sitting with her in the bar in front of your drink and her LD than standing in the street in front of her bar. I still can get some girls I want at 1 K,some others don't want to get that low, then I decide if I like her a lot or not and adjust my price accordingly or move on (I paid only once 1,5 K, every others were below).

I am currently in Pattaya for a mongering trip. I have been active on TF for a long time. Yes there are pimps and can be spotted when they reply to your messages or share PM's. Some girls have multiple accounts as well. I guess what I am trying to say here is TF is not scam free, one must be careful. Never pay in advance and never expect a girl that matches to her profile 100%. Idea is to be smart and keep multiple back ups to avoid a dry spell. Day before I had a girl in room while 2 other girls were waiting for me in the lobby. I told them I am with a girl in room for ST and they should wait for an hour and guess what they were fine with it. Next hour I was with another girl for ST and 2 more were waiting for me in the lobby. If I don't like a girl I'll choose another one without losing time. I am hard pressed for time and don't like the waiting game. I'll share my reports later. Njoy and keep banging hard.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2859449]Interesting. Never thought TF broads would have pimps. Though from the sound of it some of those cases just sound like their friends / a girl-collective just working together rather than reporting to a pimp. I always wondered about the bizarre disconnect between english via text and then nadda when we meet face to face. I had thought it was just Google translate, but then again you could usually tell because the grammar is off. These broads are coordinated and crafty, huh.[/QUOTE]

I've noted this a number of times. Many times although they speak some English the translation or explanation isn't what one thinks it is?

Bars and contract I'm sure it happen anything is possible sine from my experience many bar owners got more money than brains. I've not heard of a place that wouldn't allow a girl leave because they haven't met their quotas. I've known a couple when Covid opened they never completed their contract just took a walk left money on table because of unreasonable terms place or a misinterpreted. I've come across a few owners and managers that Forest Gump would give them a run for their money.

Thai culture! Our minimum Thais can't meet? I keep this under my breathe but Thai have kids that is what is taught to them you got to pass on your genes. Their standand of love, care I questionef easy to have them but clueless thereafter. Having kids is tough there is no real way but in the West you are taught alternatives here nothing especially the poor they do what has been done in past by parents and family. Like pets dogs they are so cute but thereafter school age they can seem for them to grow up like Soi dogs once they are of age no longer cute tough to control theycarevtge put out this the reason there are hundred if not thousand living in packs on Soi on the Darkside.

I see kids in my village at 4-5 years on their own playing on the Soi sharing drinks candy while parents are sleeping I tell my son " I have a CD " on their future majority of the time I'm correct it isn't rocket science. Like my granddaughter my son I watch them like a hawk so they don't get taken and sold. Years ago next Soi my village 7 year old. Girl the mother left to go to work felt the neighbor next door and others were trusted enough to watch basically leaving her 20 baht instruction if hungry dinner ask my wife to make her a dish my wife would keep a tap end of week square up. This is very common from my experience. One day she went missing the look high and low dredged the pond in the neighborhood day later a sidecarts vendor remember spotting her with the neighbor after questioning she confused to wanting the girl cheap phone neighbor needed money to but drugs told her a lie mother want me to take you to her work instead took her to this isolated reservoir strangled the kid took phone and sold it for 500 Hundred baht.

I see kids 13-15 having kids forcing male family to make payouts of 25-50,000 for breaking their daughters cherry, more if they find out mother is working at a bar or go-go, I know one who was asked 250,000, or they calling cops. When deal is done parents of daughter lost of face call it what people want tells the girl boys family she yours now to take care. You got kids leaving their kids and never looking back reason we guys are here writing it will never end this is their culture that they don't want to face. My brother step daughter BF mother left to sister when she got a BF left him at an orphanage my brother Thai son GF same mother left her at orphanage when she hook up with a farang the farang like most don't want someone else kids.

They! Thais have a different level of standard particularly the poor the ones who work in the profession but as an outsider if you were to say what I just wrote you looking at an volcano explosion. Does it happened yes usually it is left to a family member or a good friend. But I'm not one to say it doesn't happen.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2859544]And in how many developing countries do people ask a friend to babysit their newborn baby and then disappear for months, years, or forever? This scenario has been told to me time and time again in Thailand. Never heard it in Colombia. Never heard it in Brazil. TIT![/QUOTE]Not a realistic story.

If a young girl in the village has a baby, she leaves it with her family, or the family of the father.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2859491]Many girls have to meet their drink quota before they can be barfined. Especially if the girls is working under a "contract".[/QUOTE]Nuance. Many girls WANT to get the daily drink quota before barfine (aka if 10 days /60 drink contract she would do a barfine after 6 drinks). New in Pattaya, common on Phuket.

Bad development BTW.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2857298]Finally figured out a very probable reason why there has been a heavy Korean vlogger presence on / around Soi 6.

At least one of the bars on the Soi (panda bar) is Korean owned. They're trying to bring in the clientele they want (possibly by paying the vloggers for more exposure).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2857461]I know only of two K-streamers doing the soi consistantly and never saw them stopping by Panda bar.

Why? Easy, Panda has only old or unattractive girls.

The only guy I've seen going there is the guy distributing candies to the fatties of the soi.[/QUOTE]It's funny a few days after your post was edited K-streamer went there and did a live stream for quite some time.

You might be right that he's been paid for by the bar owner because the girl he streamed is really not the kind he would spend time with normally (a camera friendly girl again, these guys are recycling the same girls from one to another streamer).

On a side note I'll adjust my statement that all the girls are unattractive.

I went there a few days ago and found one that suited me very well (except she had some baby damage when she undressed), but I spent quite some time inside the bar and the immense majority looked really not impressive.

To my surprise the place was really packed inside, with lots of Asian customers (looked like K-men and J-men).

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2859658] Years ago next Soi my village 7 year old. Girl the mother left to go to work felt the neighbor next door and others were trusted enough to watch basically leaving her 20 baht instruction if hungry dinner ask my wife to make her a dish my wife would keep a tap end of week square up. This is very common from my experience. One day she went missing the look high and low dredged the pond in the neighborhood day later a sidecarts vendor remember spotting her with the neighbor after questioning she confused to wanting the girl cheap phone neighbor needed money to but drugs told her a lie mother want me to take you to her work instead took her to this isolated reservoir strangled the kid took phone and sold it for 500 Hundred baht.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's typically the kind of horror stories I've been reading in the Cambodian news these last years, but it's the first time I read these stuffs about Thailand.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2859673]Not a realistic story.

If a young girl in the village has a baby, she leaves it with her family, or the family of the father.[/QUOTE]Except I am not talking about the village. I am talking about Pattaya. Definitely a realistic story because I have heard it several times. Even a chick that I used to mess with hard when I first moved to Pattaya did it. I did not even know she had a kid. Then years later I met some other chick and showed her May's picture. She told me that before I even knew her she had a kid and left it with a chick that worked at a salon and never came back to get it. She then married some doctor and moved to Germany. When I met her she had come back from Germany for holiday in Pattaya and was talking about breaking up with the guy. I ran into May a couple of years after the chick told me about the situation and asked her about it and she brushed it off and did not want to talk about it. She did not say that is a lie and not a realistic story.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2859316]When you get a girl that shows up that is not the girl in the photos on the Thai Friendly (TF) account you were looking at. The chance exists that it is a pimp working the page and when they get a live one they just send out a girl that looks similar to the photos and hope she does not get rejected. I have no proof of this.

What information have you presented to prove there are no pimps in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]You are asking for proof yet you comment without proof.

Across Central there is a new Beer Bar complex. Quite big. I think it's name is Beer Bar Complex. Hahaha.

Nana Plaza School Girl might be a Star here. Hahaha.

Only thing I can imagine is every Bar is backed by Farang BF money. Nothing else makes sense.

Buzzin Bar wasn't Buzzin outside.

I wanted to sit down before going to Soi 6 so I had a seat in Crystal Club.

Nana Plaza School Girl could be top Bargirl here. Hahaha.

Strolled Lengkee and Chaiyapoon.

Nana School Girl could give lessons to these workers, they look lazy. Hahaha. Can't blame them I was only customer in sight.

Everyone is complaining about the rain in Pattaya, which keeps customers away from the bars. Rainy season should be over by now.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2859470]I'm quite picky and all the girls I've asked on this trip from Soi 6, bar one, asked for 2 k ST, the other asked for 1. 5 k, all of them immediately accepted 1. 5 k and I didn't buy any of them a drink.

Just been quoted 4 k for ST by a girl on Thai Friendly, unfortunately some idiot will probably pay but it won't be this idiot.[/QUOTE]They absolute pay it. Found a hot one off of TF with the body type the I like. Laughed at my 1000 THB. Said I was a "cheap brother". Told me that the "Brothers" pay her 3000 - 5000 THB and sometimes not even to have sex. Bragged that she was eating lunch at that very moment with someone who gave her 3000 just to hang out.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2859702]Damn, that's typically the kind of horror stories I've been reading in the Cambodian news these last years, but it's the first time I read these stuffs about Thailand.[/QUOTE]The stories are there, this story isn't going to be out there for tourists to see the majority of the time it is going to be on the 7 pm Thai news that is why it is " Land of Smile "

At the risk of proving I am hopeless, I would like to pose a question. * I think I know most of what the responses will be, but who knows, maybe something different will come up that I had not thought of.

I have made 5 trips to Patts this year, so have a reasonable idea of the lay of the land. * By no means an "expert". * At this point in my existence I am well passed how many ST's can I accomplish in a single day. * My desire is to find a "girlfriend" for a few hours. * I am interested is something that would include her getting reasonably dressed up, out for drinks / dinner maybe finding a place for some music or an upscale lounge afterwards, then finish the evening with an hour or two of adult playtime in my hotel. * I prefer not to have overnights since I get up early and also do not intend to stay out late (1:00-2:00 am).

Yes, I understand this is a "dream arrangement" and not likely to come to fruition, but IMHO it is worth a bit of effort to pursue. * I will give my ideas of how to maximize the chances of a non-resident achieving the goal and anyone is encouraged to offer opinions or something I had not thought of to increase the odds of success.

I use TF a LOT when in town, usually starting a few days before I arrive. * I have found that many if not most ladies are really focused on ST only and are not really interested in an arrangement for the evening. * Also, not sure that a lot of them have the conversation skills to make it worth the effort, no matter how hot they may be. * I usually target 23-32 yr olds in my search, but am open to suggestions. * I tend to enjoy the 28-35 age range as I have found they have a bit more appreciation when a gentleman treats them well, and are better skilled in the art of pleasing a man.

I have thought about cruising the massage shops in the early afternoon, finding something that suits my eye, having her do a foot massage to get a feel for compatibility, then bar fining her out of the shop for the rest of her shift and go from there. She could go home and get dressed and we could meet and some rooftop bar for cocktails and continue from that. **.

Bar fine one of the gals from a GClub for the evening, as they are accustomed to entertaining a customer to elicit LD's and those clubs tend to open early in the afternoon to be able to make arrangements.

This one is a bit "out there", but chatting up some nice lass at a retail location and see if she has interest in supplementing her income. * A lot could go wrong with this approach and not sure how it would be received. * Don't want to be labeled and as a perv.

See if I can find a "tour guide" to show me the "nightlife" which would include dinner / drinks. * Again, this may lead to a handshake after dinner, but has potential. * The problem is where to advertise for the guide or find them on there own. * I am not really good with FB, and am not sure if that is a good source.

Find a "service" that curates ladies just for this type of event. * I am sure the prices would be eye watering, but for a single evening might be worth an investment.

That is my list, and any suggestions are encouraged.

I am well aware that I am opening the door to ridicule and all sorts of "slings and arrows", while it may not appear to be the case I am fairly adept at navigating the P4 P scene, but as I said, always open to opportunities I may have not considered.

TIA.

Sky.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2859871]At the risk of proving I am hopeless, I would like to pose a question. * I think I know most of what the responses will be, but who knows, maybe something different will come up that I had not thought of.

TIA.

Sky.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the asterisks, no idea why they appeared.