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Over 35's
If you like hot older MILF / Asian types, I have had some success chatting up freebies and FL types in various bars. If I lived here I would go this route and avoid the younger sugar-baby girlfriend route where I would be paying for her, mamasan, poppa, babies, aunts and yada yada yada.
Some still thin and very attractive MILFS to be had.
My $0. 02 worth, Thanks for the other reports in the last 20 pages or so. I never got to try Pat at Sharks and probably won't as the coyote I took will probably be there. I may try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] today as I am up very early and want to get a lot of shots in before I head to Ukraine.
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[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2078337]Disclaimer: All personal opinion, with only 1 girl tried at each place, so the experience might be because of the girl.
How to reach: Putting this upfront, as took me some time to find this. From Soi 6, you'll reach Lo Li Tas first. Need to walk 10 steps further to reach Kasalong. It's a bit confusing, I went in to Lo Li Tas first thinking that I have taken a wrong turn. There is an alley from back side also, with very low traffic (don't remember the Soi number).
LC.[/QUOTE]Actually, you have that backwards. If you are approaching the area from Soi 6 you will reach Kasalong Bar first, then zig zag a bit through a small passage on the left as you face Kasalong Bar's shop front to get to L0lita's. But if you approach the area from Soi 8 you will reach L0lita's first as you described, then do the little zig zag through the small passage just past L0lita's on one side and American Bar & Grill on the other to get to Kasalong Bar. Maybe you got Soi 8 confused with Soi 6 in your memory.
Sounds like Tik has improved greatly in the couple of years since I tried her. Back then she was adamantly resistant to adjusting to anything I asked her to do. I had to abort the mission and move on to another choice when she stubbornly would not stop turning in a weird right angle to my body until she had my dick literally pointing 90 degrees to the right while she worked on it. LOL. Impossible. I must have gently asked her to please stop doing that at least a dozen times before resorting to gently moving her shoulders and body back to where she was facing me directly instead of facing the wall on the side of me. That would last about two strokes and then she went right back to that weird angle. Never tried her again after that.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2078127]Loli. Tas close at midnight and it's probably the same for Kasalong. It's well known that in most shops the line up is bigger from 17 o'clock than during the day so you'll have more chance to spot a better looking girl also.[/QUOTE]I walk past both L0lita's and Kasalong Bar almost daily/nightly. IMO, Kasalong Bar's daytime shift generally has by far the 3-4 best looking girls I have ever seen working at any BJ Bar anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya. I believe they open earlier but some of the girls don't show up until about 10-10:30AM, then spend the next hour or so sitting outside, brushing their hair, touching up their make-up, chatting among themselves, eating breakfast and getting ready for their day's work. If you want to see the most girls in both places, the 17:00/5PM to 18:00/6PM hour is the time to check them out as that is the hour where there is an overlap of daytime and evening shift girls. Also, I think both bars usually close at 1AM, not Midnight.
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[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2078334]
However, 1) felt some teeth on deep and 2) deep wasn't deep enough. Could've been much better. Continued for sometime -- CIM. Was curtains so didn't feel like talking after that. Wrap up, dress up, small talk, cya.
[/QUOTE]I once had a BJ from a western girl not in Thailand (well just one example). Buddy said she was famous for silky smooth BBBJ. He was Asian. Ha ha. For me she was overly toothy. Bad BJ.
I have learned that a great BBBJ for one girl guy combination, is a horrible one for same girl with another guy. There are so many reasons. A girl can be deep and very smooth with small cock but toothy and not deep with another size. Some guys like power and speed. I hate it. Extremely slow and sloppy for me.
Many girls cannot adjust themselves. No matter how many times tell them to go slower, they soon speed up again. They cannot even begin to understand just how slow I want it. I demonstrate very slow motion but they just don't learn easily.
Actually the curtains style never bothered me. I am not that shy, but probably the main point was I did not have to tolerate listening to some other noisy customer, as shop was quiet at the time. I progressed to paying extra for very large private room, and having a nice shower with girl and a fuck. Was still good value. That girl Anne is gone, so I need a new target girl at one of the shops, preferably with really hot ass.
Maybe I will try to walk past Kasalong at the optimal time. I have actually never seen it before.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2078463]Maybe I will try to walk past Kasalong at the optimal time. I have actually never seen it before.[/QUOTE]As you already know but some newbies might not realize, passing by a BJ Bar an hour or so either way or on a particular day vs another day can mean all the difference in terms of the quality of girls sitting outside that BJ Bar and available for a session. Sometimes the best looking girls are upstairs with a customer. But since I live nearby, I have reason to pass by L0lita's and Kasalong Bar many times throughout the week, almost daily. And I have observed much more often than not that there are 3-4 girls sitting outside Kasalong Bar that are more fetching than I have seen at most other such bars. Whenever I read a FR where the guy says he walked past Kasalong Bar and didn't see anyone worthwhile, I always check to see what time of day or night he is talking about. Most of the time there is no time mentioned but I can practically bet the farm he did not walk past there mid-morning around 11 AM or during the 5 PM hour. Usually a FR is about what happened during the evening, not during the day anyway.
Of course, we're only talking about looks and not BJ skills or the ability or willingness for the girl to accommodate and adjust. And, as you indicate, that is one area where YMMV really applies.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2078483]As you already know but some newbies might not realize, passing by a BJ Bar an hour or so either way or on a particular day vs another day can mean all the difference in terms of the quality of girls sitting outside that BJ Bar and available for a session. Sometimes the best looking girls are upstairs with a customer. But since I live nearby, I have reason to pass by L0lita's and Kasalong Bar many times throughout the week, almost daily. And I have observed much more often than not that there are 3-4 girls sitting outside Kasalong Bar that are more fetching than I have seen at most other such bars. Whenever I read a FR where the guy says he walked past Kasalong Bar and didn't see anyone worthwhile, I always check to see what time of day or night he is talking about. Most of the time there is no time mentioned but I can practically bet the farm he did not walk past there mid-morning around 11 AM or during the 5 PM hour. Usually a FR is about what happened during the evening, not during the day anyway.
Of course, we're only talking about looks and not BJ skills or the ability or willingness for the girl to accommodate and adjust. And, as you indicate, that is one area where YMMV really applies.[/QUOTE]I agree that checking a place out once or twice is not knowing much at all. You have to have right or lucky timing to find the best girl.
YMMV both service and girl spec.
It is so rare I ever benefitted from another guy's recommended girl. I benefitted a lot more from places recommended to try. Maybe I tried Aor at Ann8es after someone recommended. That is only one I can remember now. Almost all other regular girls were met by lucky timing or persistence.
There maybe the odd exception where I tried a recommended girl and really liked her. We just have to get clues of where to go look for ourselves, and supress the shock horror at some BJ joints with many hags.
A hag at Star of Light once tried to convince me her looks did not matter. Ha ha.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2078525]A hag at Star of Light once tried to convince me her looks did not matter. Ha ha.[/QUOTE]Well, she isn't entire wrong. I have had a BJ there once while reading a newspaper. That time clearly, looks did not matter. 5555.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2078463]I once had a BJ from a western girl not in Thailand (well just one example). Buddy said she was famous for silky smooth BBBJ. He was Asian. Ha ha. For me she was overly toothy. Bad BJ.
I have learned that a great BBBJ for one girl guy combination, is a horrible one for same girl with another guy. There are so many reasons. A girl can be deep and very smooth with small cock but toothy and not deep with another size. Some guys like power and speed. I hate it. Extremely slow and sloppy for me.[/QUOTE]And part of the BJ (naturally) includes ball sucking and ass licking. If a girl doesn't include a healthy amount of time with her tongue up my ass, I consider the BJ to be a failure.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2078572]And part of the BJ (naturally) includes ball sucking and ass licking. If a girl doesn't include a healthy amount of time with her tongue up my ass, I consider the BJ to be a failure.[/QUOTE]555. I am sure she was a complete failure. Did not like to be fucked that much either.
Different guys have different criteria. I was surprised that no guy had taught Pat with big double Ds, that my balls needed a gentle touch of her tits at same time she is sucking the cock. Feels better than a hand for me. I trained her and now she does every time for me.
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Hell Vs. (Almost) Heaven
After being back in BKK for a short while I'm staying this time in Mermaid Bangkok hotel as Park Plaza almost tripled their prices since last time I was here which was only about two weeks ago. As I arrived late last night and being in the neighborhood of Soi Cowboi I headed right away to CH with a loaded gun, determined to find me some pussy after a two week fasting period.
Headed into CH at about 12:30 am and not that much that caught my eye but I had a look again at #4 who came on stage after 30 minutes or so. Having looked at her again I have noticed that the belly actually isn't that tight anymore. She does have a tattoo on her left leg on the inside of her ankle. I think it mentioned "Love" but I can be wrong. As for me she has a gorgeous ass and a nice pair of legs for a petite girl. Even though I'm not a big fan of bellies that due to circumstances have some sort of damage she does appeal me. The usual interaction didn't paid off. What I mean by that is that I focus completely to the girl and she sees that I'm hers. However, I'm not a beggar and it's not my style to pick a girl and bring her to me. I prefer that she comes to me by herself which didn't seemed to work out as I planned for. LOL.
I do understand that this sounds strange to most of you but this is just how I roll in bars. Needles to say that there were many others who crawled on my lap including #40. The blond haired girl with fake but nice pair of tits. I didn't paid enough time with her in order to see how she looks like but I do like her attitude.
Anyway, to keep it short I stayed in CH until about 2:45 am and thought to have a quick look in Sharks which is what I did. There were still some customers and I was hoping to find a late catch. Laid my eye on a petite girl with fake big tits and the ass of a 12 yo. Face was so so. She came over just before all the lights turned on and told me to wait in front of Bacara and she would be happy to offer her services to me. Price was 4000 bath for LT and as I would wait for her outside there wasn't any need to pay the BF. I didn't started to negotiate as I found that the price was reasonable. So I was there waiting for her and went for some food. This was actually the first time that I had a bit of a conversation with her which wasn't possible in Sharks due to the short time I had over there. In between the Tom Yam Goong and some other dishes I started to notice that the lady was not that far from completely sloshed. Started to cry and shit but was still able to walk sort of straight. Sort of I say. LOL.
At the time we left I wasn't sure that I would take her to my hotel room but she never got in the stage that she started to loose it completely at that point in time. She came in to a state of being hammered during the walk to the hotel though. It was a borderline call but I thought it was it was going to be alright. What a stupid fuck I was. I bet this is what happens when you go hunting with a loaded gun. She could barely stand up when we went to the elevator and almost collapsed while we were inside. Once we were in my room she was on Mars. Laid down on the bed and 10 minutes later she started to gag. Lifted her up and to the toilet she she did her thing. You can imagine how well my room smelled after that. LOL.
Needles to say that there was no further fun on the menu that time which was most likely at about 4 to 4:40 am. Woke up at about 11 am and so did she. To my surprise she went right down to action but in the middle of the process she felt to sleep again! Oh boy. What a night to remember I thought but at about 2 pm I had the impression that she was back on our planet and this was the point where things got way much better. Before going into action I made it clear to her that there was no way I was going to pay her the 4 k we had agreed upon previously so she was find with 2 k and an extra 500 bath for taxi. I can say that I had a good time and usually I'm not saying this but so did she. After the deed we slept again until 6 pm and woke her up, asking when she has to start working again. Looked like she wasn't really in the mood for it but instead wanted to have some more fun again before going back to work. So she was dry fucking me for some time and she was turned on. Asked me for another round but I told her that I didn't had any money left on me. After asking it for about ten times she then mentioned to me that it's free of charge which is something I have never experienced before so I happily accepted her offer and actually gave her another 500 bath for the trouble. Funny to see is that some women look worse when they put their make up on which was the case for her.
All in all I paid 3 k instead of 4 k for a night that started very bad and ended good. Not really sure how to feel about the deal I have finally made as it's not something that I usually do, meaning that I would lower my price during circumstances which were in the beginning rather valid but at the end she did deliver. Actually she never disagreed with my offers which makes me think that she was satisfied as well.
That's all for now. Going on the hunt again but this time with an empty gun.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2078436]I walk past both L0lita's and Kasalong Bar almost daily/nightly. IMO, Kasalong Bar's daytime shift generally has by far the 3-4 best looking girls I have ever seen working at any BJ Bar anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya. I believe they open earlier but some of the girls don't show up until about 10-10:30AM, then spend the next hour or so sitting outside, brushing their hair, touching up their make-up, chatting among themselves, eating breakfast and getting ready for their day's work. If you want to see the most girls in both places, the 17:00/5PM to 18:00/6PM hour is the time to check them out as that is the hour where there is an overlap of daytime and evening shift girls. Also, I think both bars usually close at 1AM, not Midnight.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update, I was being serviced once at the closing time a few years ago and I thought it was near midnight but I was probably wrong.
I would agree with you that most of the times the girls from Kasalong were looking better but in my experience I enjoyed the service much more the few times I was in LoLi. Tas.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2078435] Maybe you got Soi 8 confused with Soi 6 in your memory.[/QUOTE]Correct. Checked on maps. It's the other way round. Beer, oh beer!
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2078435]she stubbornly would not stop turning in a weird right angle to my body until she had my dick literally pointing 90 degrees to the right while she worked on it. [/QUOTE]LOL! No, johnny was 90 degree up this time. And she was pretty responsive to all the asks. Never realized she was an old timer there!
Safe mongering,
LC.
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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2078638]Thanks for the update, I was being serviced once at the closing time a few years ago and I thought it was near midnight but I was probably wrong.
I would agree with you that most of the times the girls from Kasalong were looking better but in my experience I enjoyed the service much more the few times I was in LoLi. Tas.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be surprised if L0lita's did close earlier sometimes if there were no customers showing up by 12:15 AM or so. Of the two bars, I have noticed that L0lita's is the one that closes at the drop of a hat; the Queen's second cousin's birthday, the 10th anniversary of a monk not immediately being offered a seat on a crowded BTS train, any excuse will do and L0lita's closes for the day / night. But Kasalong Bar carries on through many of the usual bar closure holidays.
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[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2078730]LOL! No, johnny was 90 degree up this time. And she was pretty responsive to all the asks. Never realized she was an old timer there!
Safe mongering,
LC.[/QUOTE]Ah good. I like to think my eventual dismissal of her services due to lack of focus and responsiveness to repeated requests to simply do it this way instead of that way, which she wasn't pleased about but it had to be done by someone, contributed in some small way to her now highly focused and responsive service level. LOL. And I am only partially joking about that, BTW.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2078463]Many girls cannot adjust themselves. No matter how many times tell them to go slower, they soon speed up again. They cannot even begin to understand just how slow I want it. I demonstrate very slow motion but they just don't learn easily.[/QUOTE]From my experience a classic mistake many girls make when providing a blowjob is from the first grasp or placement of their mouth on the shaft they are trying to make me cum that way. Big mistake. The first contacts should be an effort to make me WANT to cum that way. That is where the slow and sensual moves are relevant. The kind of hand / mouth and so on action necessary to make me cum should happen later, well after I have been teased and stroked and kissed and licked VERY slowly and sensually into really, really WANTING to cum that way.
Putting a P4 P lady (or any lady for that matter) into that mindset is the challenge. They can't imagine why a man wouldn't want her to launch full force into the very actions that ought to come at or near the end of the process immediately and without any build up whatever. They mistakenly are trying to make me cum that way from the very first contact of mouth or hand. Little do they know that their launching into that kind of action too soon is what will almost always prolong the process, somewhat numb the dick and balls due to too much jacking or pulling action too soon, requiring me to take much, much longer to finish. I will be put on the edge of cumming anytime they want to launch into that final stage action much faster if only they would just relax in the beginning, stop working so hard from initial contact, and try to at least pretend they are slowly and sensually pampering the total package area down there because (yes, let's call it pretending here) they enjoy the pleasure it gives me too much to rush and hurry to a finish.
About the only way I have been able to get the concept to sink into their pretty little heads is by duplicating it myself when I treat them to DATY. So often with both P4 P and non P4 P girls it seems they cum faster from my DATY technique than anytime they have ever had it done to them. Often surprisingly so. And, as I point out to them if they really want to know, it is because I do exactly to them what I have been trying to get them to do with me; I do not launch immediately and without mercy into serious focused licking as though I am trying to make them cum that way as fast as possible. Instead, I spend a decent amount of time slowly and sensually pampering the area in an effort to first make them really, really WANT to cum that way.
Those first slow and sensual licks, kisses and teasing strokes are essentially "hello, I am your friend, I am in no hurry to get this over with, I enjoy the way you look and smell and taste, you are in no hurry to cum quickly to put me out of my misery as soon as possible because I am enjoying this too much to hurry anyway, we will get to the part where I am doing what is necessary to get you over and cum soon enough, just relax for now and let me enjoy this too" message to them. That always makes getting them to cum that way a much easier proposition and it can start happening within minutes, even with ladies who have stubbornly never cum that way before. It works the same way with me. But getting them to understand that concept and adjust their approach accordingly is not easy.