Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2859871]
I use TF a LOT when in town, usually starting a few days before I arrive. * I have found that many if not most ladies are really focused on ST only and are not really interested in an arrangement for the evening. * Also, not sure that a lot of them have the conversation skills to make it worth the effort, no matter how hot they may be. * I usually target 23-32 yr olds in my search, but am open to suggestions. * I tend to enjoy the 28-35 age range as I have found they have a bit more appreciation when a gentleman treats them well, and are better skilled in the art of pleasing a man.[/QUOTE]Brother just ask for what you want on TF. I have no problem finding girls that want to go out. But I ask them if they are interested in more than just a ST customer. To achieve what you want you may need to have a meet and greet to check compatibility before. You can make it strictly platonic and pay for their taxi and coffee, tea or drinks. Or you can do like I do and tell them they are going to have to talk with me an hour and check chemistry before we do our ST session. Never been a problem.

Look I have chatted up a girl I liked on the Bath Bus. She is a non. Pro. There are some dumb mother fuckers up in here that challenged me. Thinking only with their dick and lack of imagination. But I know what she is. Not pressed at all to get with me. Goes to class everyday. And has made almost zero effort to meet me. Yet, we still talk. Maybe someday we will meet. But it is not high on her list priorities. Now to the dumb ass who said: "She could be selling it every night" well she could be. But she is not trying to sell it to me. [B]LOL![/B].

As for the critics, simply do not pay attention to them. If they don't have anything to constructively add as I have done simply ignore them. There are those that talk and those that do. Be a man in the arena brother. Like I am!

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2859872]Sorry about the asterisks, no idea why they appeared.[/QUOTE]Short version. You look for a real GFE experience. Would probably qualify as longtime because you want to spend more hours.

This is possible however a bit hard and nobody would be able to give you a straight answer (visit girl x) because it seems chemistry between you and the lady is ALSO important.

Your best bets are TF (but as you said a lot just look for ST) or a working chick. My advise would be to ignore massage ladies (probably most are too old for you) and I would also avoid soi6.

Because you want someone who can holds a conversation it means she needs to speak English at a decent level. Well. That probably means she's working in Pattaya long time or have some higher education?

Maybe try a normal shop if you see someone who you like there?

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2859871]At the risk of proving I am hopeless, I would like to pose a question. * I think I know most of what the responses will be, but who knows, maybe something different will come up that I had not thought of.



Sky.[/QUOTE]What you are seeking used to be very easy to find. I have had it happen several times in Bangkok and Pattaya where I met a girl and clicked and spent lots of time together with amazing sex on top. But now the whole scene is too commercial. Short time, quick money. The girls are not looking for a foreign knight in shining armor any more. I think Pattaya is too much of a sex destination and every visitor is labeled (rightly so) as a sex tourist. You are likely to have better luck in Bangkok. But overall lack of English will continue to be an issue. In that regards Philippines is a better bet.

You wonder why I rant about sponsors?

I posted about a bargirl who sponsor had a moment of lucidity and realized that she only loved him for his money. So, he cut her off. The first thing she did was to ask me for a "date".

But then, he sunk back into loneliness and sent her some money. So, she was a no-show for our "date". No message with an excuse, she just ghosted me.

Of course, that takes her out of my rotation, so the next time he cuts her off, she is out of luck.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2859871]At the risk of proving I am hopeless, I would like to pose a question. * I think I know most of what the responses will be, but who knows, maybe something different will come up that I had not thought of.

I have made 5 trips to Patts this year, so have a reasonable idea of the lay of the land. * By no means an "expert". * At this point in my existence I am well passed how many ST's can I accomplish in a single day. * My desire is to find a "girlfriend" for a few hours. * I am interested is something that would include her getting reasonably dressed up, out for drinks / dinner maybe finding a place for some music or an upscale lounge afterwards, then finish the evening with an hour or two of adult playtime in my hotel. * I prefer not to have overnights since I get up early and also do not intend to stay out late (1:00-2:00 am).

Yes, I understand this is a "dream arrangement" and not likely to come to fruition, but IMHO it is worth a bit of effort to pursue. * I will give my ideas of how to maximize the chances of a non-resident achieving the goal and anyone is encouraged to offer opinions or something I had not thought of to increase the odds of success..[/QUOTE]That's a kind of relationship you need to cultivate over time. Undoubtedly, you'll not find it from a bargirl. The difficulty is that you risk finding what you want on a TF response, but the girl turns out to be a total dud. For most Pattaya girls, it's all about the money. My advice is to just stick to ST and keep your losses to a minimum.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQQDaTobtlA[/URL]

Please compare these to Nana Plaza Schoolgirl.

Lets say 3 categories. Superstars, Average, Beach Road Quality.

Would you place Schoolgirl in same category as these 2? Average Category?

I went to Repent on Wednesday didn't see these 2.

How to tell the age of a bargirl:

The longer she stays after you pay her, the older she is.

Another sign of High Season beginning: my 2 pm lady ghosted me. No message with an excuse, but she did post on Facebook that she was with a customer.

As High Season intensifies, more ladies will flake out on me, until the Christmas holiday when no one will schedule with me (time to go to Brazil then).

I expect this High Season to be the busiest ever, barring some international calamity.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2858513]I remember when there weren't models/hostesses and LD on WS were 100/120 baht, 60/80 baht on Soi 6 and G clubs. Does this mean the girls are making more per drink now or do the girls still make the same 50 baht they made at 120 baht LD as they do on 230 baht LD?

Higher prices means fewer drinks for the girls from me. I'm down to Panda, Cat Ears, and Cutest Girl Ever at Palace for drinks.





Buried in all our trash talk here are 2 very well thought out reviews by StL and Jim. Please go back a page and read them if you enjoy actual reviews that name bars and girls. Thanks guys for the information.[/QUOTE]Panda is now at XS, not at Palace. XS actually had the most girls now and probably better quality than all bars. Pin Up is scarce and redesigned (same owner). 79 Agogo is worth checking out, plenty of former WhatsUp girls. Okeamos is trash even with its 3 floors (VIP upstairs) and same style and quality as Bachelor LK. Same mamasan from there too.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2860133]Another sign of High Season beginning: my 2 pm lady ghosted me. No message with an excuse, but she did post on Facebook that she was with a customer.

As High Season intensifies, more ladies will flake out on me, until the Christmas holiday when no one will schedule with me (time to go to Brazil then).

I expect this High Season to be the busiest ever, barring some international calamity.[/QUOTE]Even TAT is expecting a Slow High Season.

Plus when you have Thailand implementing a who knows what Tax scheme in 2024 that can't be good for Business.

My 330 days in Thailand might have to be cut down to 179 days.

Gold Standard is Orange Haired Baitoey. Looks Only.

I met a girl not as pretty but very Acceptable Face. Nice Deameanor. A bit more Melatonin than I like. Bigger Sized.

Her 1st quote 2,000. I thought was Fare.

Biggest selling point was Grade A Tittie's. Perky original size Big be.

Soi 6.

Post wouldn't be Funny. Almost forgot. Her teeth not the Best of Shape. Different Directions. Hahaha.

I think I'll barfine though. Teeth aren't a deal killer.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2860147]Panda is now at XS, not at Palace. XS actually had the most girls now and probably better quality than all bars. Pin Up is scarce and redesigned (same owner). 79 Agogo is worth checking out, plenty of former WhatsUp girls. Okeamos is trash even with its 3 floors (VIP upstairs) and same style and quality as Bachelor LK. Same mamasan from there too.[/QUOTE]Did I miss the place, Where is Okeamos?

Haven't visit yet but last week was at King Kong for dinner, one of waitress recognized my cousin in conversation I ask owner a American? She pointed to table on corner owners Joint ownership Thai women and a Japanese guy interesting.

She also told us after visiting their new GoGo on WS, name One Stop GoGo, name might be wrong but I think someone mentioned it recently. Location sounds like former Pascha near Bacarra. From her reaction sounds expensive BF, I joked 600 baht she laughs that is Coconut bar price she double dips as a waitress and Agency girl at the GoGo.

Tell me if this isn't Funny.

Explorer is Danderman123 on ASEAN News.

He post about high season,. His 2 Bargirls cancelled.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2859912]What you are seeking used to be very easy to find. I have had it happen several times in Bangkok and Pattaya where I met a girl and clicked and spent lots of time together with amazing sex on top. But now the whole scene is too commercial. Short time, quick money. The girls are not looking for a foreign knight in shining armor any more. I think Pattaya is too much of a sex destination and every visitor is labeled (rightly so) as a sex tourist. You are likely to have better luck in Bangkok. But overall lack of English will continue to be an issue. In that regards Philippines is a better bet.[/QUOTE]Although people have labeled me as newbie, I have not found the commercial aspect to be universally true. But maybe that is because I am looking at things with fresh eyes and I do thing differently. But whenever you make judgements about an entire city, or industry I think you miss subtle aspects or the exceptions. For example, those who know that there are casinos in Las Vegas most likely understand that everyone who actually lives in Las Vegas is not a gambler.

I have plenty of girls on Thai Friend tell me they are not interested in short time. So, I pivot and say let's just meet over coffee tea or drinks and they come back with, no I am not interested because I know you will continue to look for girls. There are plenty of girls still looking for that that foreign man to do the things men used to do for girls (protect and provide). And they are willing to do the things that girls used to provide (fuck, cook, clean, take care of children). I speak from my experiences only for the short time (get the pun) I have been here.

As for the commercial aspect, I like it! Are we really coming to Pattaya to look for girlfriends? I know many men think they can pay for GFE. You cannot. It is an illusion. If you want true GFE you have to provide BFE (Boy Friend Experience). That requires more than a pocket full of THB (well at least for the guys not paying their prostitutes by bank transfer) and another pocket full of condoms.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2860286]Did I miss the place, Where is Okeamos?

Haven't visit yet but last week was at King Kong for dinner, one of waitress recognized my cousin in conversation I ask owner a American? She pointed to table on corner owners Joint ownership Thai women and a Japanese guy interesting.

She also told us after visiting their new GoGo on WS, name One Stop GoGo, name might be wrong but I think someone mentioned it recently. Location sounds like former Pascha near Bacarra. From her reaction sounds expensive BF, I joked 600 baht she laughs that is Coconut bar price she double dips as a waitress and Agency girl at the GoGo.[/QUOTE]Okeamos is next to Dolls WS. Has a bunch of Chinese advertising all over the black sliding doors. 79 Club is where Pier used to be. A few other new ones on WS but if you see them once, you've seen them all. Lots of girls moved from Baccara to XS. I hate walking into a "new" club and some of the girls, staff, and a mamasans recognize you. They treat you as if you owe them something from yesteryears past. Some of the girls run when they see me because they gained weight or whatever. If I do the GoGo thing, it's just for music and to look. Long time old school guys like me have our long stable list of girls already. And it's true, the longer your are here or they know you, the better the pricing. Just as long as you don't try to compete with weekend millionaires for the 10 pm-2 am weekend time slot. Also don't be a shithead and break their hustles at the GoGo bars. Even if it means not saying "Hi" when you see them sitting with another guy they are trying to scam. Then they will give you a deal. I rather just pay 2000 for a GoGo bar girl for one hour or two hours, before she has to go to work or mid afternoon. Skip all the drinks and barfine BS. Keep in mind, this works only for guys who have a long history of rapport. Newbies they look at you stupid if you try to bargain like that. I tried that at 79 Club for a new never seen before girl and she said no. But then one who I've seen before months ago, readily took the deal for 2000 next day. Coconut Bar is all fucked up because they ripped up the side walk completely from Soi 12 to Central Festival. Girls have migrated to Buakhao and TreeTown. New mayor said no more stationary food carts most of the major roads like Pattayatai. Guess another one tries to clean up Pattaya.