Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=Steamer33]My PRC GF has one regular she visits for 10 mins to half an hour, one quick HJ and out of there AED 1,100 better off. Sometimes I give her a lift there, wait outside and take her home half an hour after, if only the punter knew her BF was in the car outside!
[/QUOTE]I do that with my regular GF also. Once she hops back in my car after giving a punter a quick CIM blowjob, I reward her with a slap on the ass and a deep lingering DFK, then we go spend half her earnings on clothes for me - usually shiny shirts, chunky gold chains and bracelets, and baseball caps (which I wear backwards). We're both happy with the arrangement.

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Glad you are still part of the dxb scene here. Perhaps you could tell me a nice gf hotel :)[/QUOTE]

Bravo, you can use either Metropolitan if you want to be close to Rattle or Ramada Bur Dubai, Regal placa if you want to be close to Rumors, York and Good Fellows :)

Cheers Spelman

[quote=steamer33]... if only the punter knew her bf was in the car outside![/quote]who says he doesn't?

[quote=steamer33]by the way i heard a disturbing story from a friend of hers the other night about someone she picked up, european i think, in rattler 2.30am and back to his hotel. dh900 agreed till 7am.[/quote]900 dhs 4.5 hours? now that is disturbing! :)

[quote=steamer33]... needs bb. she, understandably and quite rightly refuses - she never, ever, does that with a punter, only with her bf who she has been with a long time.[/quote]does anyone else see the gaping hole in her logic, as in does the bf really also maintain this 'standard'? in a monogamous relationship, it works. otherwise...

for me, kind of like deciding to be a player... once that line is crossed, difficult to just stop. same with "covered": if there's one exception, there can be others.

[quote=steamer33]she has already been paid[/quote]damn, this is a horror story: 900 dhs, 4.5 hours, pay in advance? i'm reeling...

[quote=steamer33]... being a good girl she offers him back half the money, saying that she doesn't want to take his money for nothing but needs to compensate her for losing a night's work/money and cab home.[/quote]half?!? that's a lot of workman's comp, and where the hell does she live, rak?

[quote=steamer33]she eventually after more arguing and fighting [b]gets away[/b] and goes home in tears, furious and upset. ...by trying to bb [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her...[/quote]"gets away" and "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" all sound a bit melodramatic. doesn't sound like she was ever in any real danger of either being detained against her will or of being raped. "tears, furious and upset"... at what? an ugly situation? if that's the worst situation she finds herself in, then she should consider herself lucky. though she did offer to give some back, perhaps also upset she wasn't going to make the full 900...

[quote=steamer33]but don't risk ... the girl and her boyfirend... [/quote]again, a bit melodramatic. her being in "this" profession is a risk... not all std's are prevented by covered sex. granted, genital herpes is not life threating, but it is a "gift" that keeps giving forever, and to all future partners (if not careful).

[quote=steamer33]if you're reading this you should be ashamed, and you should have given her the agreed amount because if you had mentioned bb during negotiations she would not have gone near you.[/quote]wtf! i'm not saying that this was not handled poorly by him; it was. but in any [u]business[/u] dealings, there will be misunderstandings. given the hour, she was out a night's income. but he too was "left hanging" (pun intended); too late for him to go back and look for another. and you did say, "she picked up at 2:30am". it was her choice, and if she's still around at 2:30am... not much of a successful night, was it?

[quote=steamer33]it's people like you who give guys like myself and a lot on this forum, who like to be courteous and give back a real bfe in exchange for a gfe and treat girls with respect, a bad name.[/quote]huh? i'm responsible for my actions, and shall be judged accordingly. that's like saying because i was ripped off by one [insert country here] wg, then all [insert country here] wg's are bad.

[quote=steamer33]... have a long-term wg gf and so don't really monger anymore.[/quote]good for you, but i have to agree with sporadic... perhaps reading between the lines... maybe concern that your gf might not refuse in such a situation?

[quote=steamer33]to everyone, please treat these girls with respect and you'll get so much more in return.[/quote]no arguement there; i, and many others, have posted the same. but it also cuts both ways: when there's a disagreement, agree to disagree and go your separate ways.

[b]my[/b] view:
it's basically a given that lt is cbj, covered fs, a couple of shots. a number of wg's do provide bbbj, a few less provide cim. but i always ask, if that's important to me with her that night. i also don't assume that a morning wakeup is on offer. i also ask 'departure time' as my definition of 'morning' may be different than hers.

anything outside that should be specified beforehand. anal, uncovered, photos... whatever. that way, both parties have the information to make a go/no-go decision. there should be no last minute surprises from either party (bb on the 1 hand, "i have to make a visa run"... etc. on the other, as examples.)

it's why i like to pull early: there's time for both to go back to the bar for an alternate choice. if we haven't "started", just taxi fare appropriate. and i don't start unless i know what's on the menu.

if there's a major disagreement (there has been a few), then i think st is a reasonable compromise, with a compromise between my st rate and hers.

i'm not unsympathetic, but upset at this? not a happy evening, but no cause for tears. worst case, she was out a night's work. doesn't sound like a major loss, given that she's in the '900 at closing' bracket, and i'm guessing a fl (no boss waiting at home to turn her earnings over to, and hell to pay if there's less than expected). those are the incidents i'm upset about, the controlled girls, or the case of the girl who was kidnapped by "le"...

bottom line: a shooting foul, not a technical...

[QUOTE=Piper1]Denmark: No, it's not just you, S. ;) [/QUOTE]LOL.

[QUOTE=Spelman]Hotel...[/QUOTE]Thanks, but that was me being facetious (or trying to be); I DO remember your hard work at supplying the 'punter's guide to dxb'. This is THAT Spelman, right? :)

[b]Only in dxb[/b]
This time, inside the market. Walkup to the checkout stand. Ahead of me, there's a [i]couple[/i] buying dinner fixings. She, I recognize. She looks my way, the concern that I might say something apparent in her look. I look straight through her... just another housewife clogging up the line. Later, as he's paying, attention diverted, I give her just the SLIGHTEST of nods, and am rewarded with a wink in return. In the bar, she's a wg; elsewhere, just another civilian.

[quote=11bravo]i'm not unsympathetic, but upset at this? not a happy evening, but no cause for tears. worst case, she was out a night's work. doesn't sound like a major loss, given that she's in the '900 at closing' bracket, and i'm guessing a fl (no boss waiting at home to turn her earnings over to, and hell to pay if there's less than expected). those are the incidents i'm upset about, the controlled girls, or the case of the girl who was kidnapped by "le"...[/quote]i too was very worried by the le kidnap case and passed the story on to warn others. but i am also worried by this.

[quote=sporadic]strong words. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]? [/quote]what else do you call trying to physically force a girl (wg or not) into bb fs after it wasn't agreed/consented to and she's clearly said no?

this might help you. some definitions (from dictionary.com)

[b][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url][/b]
noun
[i]1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.[/i]

the point is, this guy became very aggressive and tried to force himself on her bb after she firmly had said condom or the deal's off. that's a frightening situation for a girl to be in and she [b]was[/b] lucky she managed to get away in one piece. after all she could hardly dial 999 from his hotel room. there's only one person in the wrong here i'm afraid.

please remember that these girls have feelings and get frightened like any woman would in that situation.

finally…

[quote=11bravo]…maybe concern that your gf might not refuse in such a situation? [/quote][quote=sporadic]what do you read while waiting for your "girlfriend" to jerk someone off? [/quote]i don’t think there’s any need to be personal and insulting about someone else’s relationship. what i do might not suit you, and what you do might not be to my liking, but i don’t slag off what you do in your frs.

i was just trying to share information (re cyclone and other places at the top of the report) and while i was doing it i though it might be pertinent to on report on nasty incident which thankfully did not become much worse, but only just. i thought sharing info was the point of a forum.

but glad you both agree with the general sentiment that the guy concerned was out of order and the girls should be treated well.

steamer33

[QUOTE=11Bravo]LOL.

Thanks, but that was me being facetious (or trying to be); I DO remember your hard work at supplying the 'punter's guide to dxb'. This is THAT Spelman, right? :) [/QUOTE]

Correct it's me

[QUOTE=Steamer33]Most Cyclone A list refugees I know now work Hyatt Regency as prices are best there, or just visit their high-paying regulars, all arranged by phone or text.

My PRC GF has one regular she visits for 10 mins to half an hour, one quick HJ and out of there AED 1,100 better off[/QUOTE][QUOTE=11Bravo]900 dhs 4.5 hours? Now THAT IS disturbing![/QUOTE]The point I was trying to make was, there are plenty of A listers still around, but you won't be able to get them LT for Dh500 at Rattler, even if they are there, when they can still command Cyclone prices. As with any goods or services, if you want quality, you have to pay a bit more.

Steamer33

One more short FR
Started the evening at Regal around 12 midnight and the guys working there recognized me so there was no problem to get in for free and as I walked up the stairs I immediately started to notice that the quality of the GF in Regal has improved since my last visit.
Some girls were still around but it looked like there has been a major change of girls In Regal to the better ;) I must say.

I chatted with some old Mongers fiends and they confirmed that quite a lot of new GF have arrived.

I walked up to one quite nice CIS to see what the price range would be now and she was shocking me with a nice number of 2000……. I just told sorry babe I have been here before and immediately she dropped down to 1000. phu sorry still to much, she was good looking but not that good. As soon as I left her one Punter moved on to her and what I could hear they agreed on 1500, hmmm he can’t be living here in Dubai or I am totally lost when it comes to the prices.

Anyway, I moved around to see if I could find another GF but this was one of these nights when I could not find anyone who I really wanted so I left the club and started to walk back to Ramada.

When I walked back to Ramada I called my old LBFM and she arrived quite fast and as usual no issues at all. We went up to the room and just had a WF and including BBBJ, rimming, DF and RCA, She went home today around mid day and the damage was 500 as last time.
This time I did take some pictures :) enjoy them in the Photo section guys

Cheers Spelman

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Nice FR, nice to see some new names posting EXPERIENCES. Below (wrt Teredrith) should be taken VERY tongue in cheek.[/QUOTE]I would say it is the reason of these forums to exist :-) Sharing is certainly more interesting than keeping everything for yourself!

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Is that the wg's, or the other punters? :)[/QUOTE]I would say the other punters... This place do have a big contrast to the places we are used to be in.

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Here, the whiter the better...[/QUOTE]Yes, that is something me and my friends understood quite easilly.

[QUOTE=11Bravo]It's called the free market. Prices are what they think they can get from someone... even if that's not you. It also seems that you have a CIS "mentality" with respect to PRC's... [/QUOTE]I completely agree! It is indeed what they think they can get from someone. Increase/decrease in that market is the result of people paying respectively more or less!

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Do ya think? And I always thought they were there for the music. :)[/QUOTE]I thought that.... hahahahahaha :D

[QUOTE=11Bravo]"Sever" sounds like a ONE time performance :)[/QUOTE]I would tend to maintain several performance as she is still coming to my hotel ! Now, I say that what she gives me (still for free) is in perfect harmony with how I usually like and that is certainly reflecting my own opinion instead of a general view of the topic.

Regards,

Teredrith

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Everybody looks down on somebody else: CIS hate the PRC's, claiming the PRC's go for 200 LT, driving down the price. PRC's dislike the africans, claiming they're always cutting in, getting preferental treatment by the security staff at the clubs when there's a disagreement ... I'm sure the africans have their "dislikes"...

I did not take any offense at your post, as I understood you were reporting the "perception" of those involved, not the reality.

Too true, too true.

WHAT!?! Racism in dxb?!? Hard to believe; I'm sure the Africans just got tired of the Seaview's band. :)

No, he's always too drunk to be a real danger, except to himself. Just an embarrassment, both to himself and for the poor girl who he's pulled for the evening.

I would agree, though I CAN'T vouch for the post 2am assortment... Maybe if I can take a nap in the early evening...[/QUOTE]

:-< Perceptions and opinions are just like assholes everybody’s got one.

hi boys. on my (regular) travels through the dubai thread this morning, i read steamer's post and actually sent him a pm to say thank you. with so many guys on the wsg bragging about forcing the bb issue, i thought it was nice of steamer to give a bit of insight on how bad it can make the girls feel.

i 'know' a lot of you guys in this thread and i know that you're kind and respectful mongers, so i was a bit surprised by your reactions to his post.

steamer doesn't say how far into the booking this request came, or how exactly the request was made, but if the guy 'asked' for bb in the middle of having sex, i can imagine it could have got quite scary for the girl. i don't know too many hookers who haven't experienced this same situation before. when you're naked in a room with a stranger (or under a stranger), he's horny and getting increasingly frustrated with his inability to get off, you know you have no way out and that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or violence is a very real possibility... you feel extremely vulnerable. if this is what happened to this girl, i can assure you she would have been genuinely upset when she got out.

even if the booking hadn't actually started, steamer said the guy was yelling at her, so it wasn't exactly a polite request. the same emotions apply, even if the booking hasn't got underway. you're still alone in a hotel room with an angry stranger and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and/or violence is still a possibility. she still would have felt extremely intimidated and afraid. then, of course, there's the loss of time and money, etc...which adds anger to the list of emotions. not to mention the cruel, cutting things that clients tend to say to sex workers when things turn nasty.

anyway, lecture over. :) sorry, but i just wanted to give you a wg's perspective.

[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]Steamer doesn't say how far into the booking this request came, or how exactly the request was made, but if the guy 'asked' for BB in the middle of having sex, I can imagine it could have got quite scary for the girl.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you how far into the booking. They went to his hotel at 2.30am and at 5am he decides he doesn't want a rubber anymore, presumably because, as Nursey says, he's having problems getting off and tries to force the issue. I saw the girl the next day and she was pretty shaken up.

Steamer33

You guys......

[QUOTE=Steamer33]
The point is, this guy became very aggressive and tried to force himself on her BB after she firmly had said condom or the deal's off.[/quote]Here is another definition for you:
[b]Material breach:[/b] a breach of contract that is so substantial that it defeats the purpose of the parties in making the contract and gives the nonbreaching party the right to cancel the contract and sue for damages
compare substantial performance at performance
Whether a breach is material is a question of fact. Under the Restatement (Second) of Contracts, a material breach gives rise to the right to suspend performance but not to cancel the contract until there is a total breach.

[quote]That's a frightening situation for a girl to be in and she [b]was[/b] lucky she managed to get away in one piece.[/quote] Agreed, (you too RN) but some important details were missing from your original post.

An hour and a half into the session? Unless they were chatting for all that time the guy really was a tool, and the girl was being too kind to refund anything to the asshole. I presume this was an escape tactic.

[quote]Please remember that these girls have feelings and get frightened like any woman would in that situation.[/quote] Thanks, I really needed reminding.

[quote]I don’t think there’s any need to be personal and insulting about someone else’s relationship. [/quote] You are 100% correct, I was wrong to make that comment about reading materials, and I apologize. My only excuse was my instant personal revulsion at the situation you described.

[quote]But glad you both agree with the general sentiment that the guy concerned was out of order and the girls should be treated well.[/QUOTE]
Gosh, thanks. I am glad you are glad, not sanctimonious.

Piper: When is your next FR from Denmark? I still think there might be something there... ;)

Surprise 1: Wow, I go away for a few days and come back to a lot of heavy stuff happening. Re steamers email, it sounds terrible for the poor girl. I've heard a few bad stories recently including the one about Princess L's friend and the fals LE dude. Maybe just coincidences, let's hope things don't get too silly. With too many uber bad stories we may have some serious spotlight on our favourite passtime which would make none of us happy.

Surprise 2: I've not been on for a few days as I've been away in Kuwait on business, lucky Zing I hear you yell. But wait, there was a surprise. I was in my hotel room on te second day in the middle of the day just doing some work on my laptop. There's a knock on the door and its the chambermaid come to tidy my room.

"On you go" I say, not really thinking anything. As she was cleaning we started some general chit-chat, she comes from Sri Lanka, been in Kuwait a couple of years blah blah blah. Anyway, still not thinking anything we shoot some small talk.

After a while she pick a cup up from the desk I'd used for a cup of tea. "Don't worry about washing it, there's another" I say. "But you may have a friend come visit you so you need two" come the reply. I think she genuinely meant this is a funny reply but being quick to see an opening (no pun intended) I ask her half-joking if she would like to come and visit me for a cup of tea. The conversation shot back and forward, she wasn't a stunner and a little bit on the big side for me (I like spinners) but not too bad and I was in Kuwait.

By this time my old man starting to pay attention so he decided we should really go for it so I told her I was serious and if she came back when she finished her shift we could have a cup of tea and some fun, laughing, I told her I promised not to tell. After a few minutes I managed to get her to promise to come back later when she had a free hour. And back she came in the evening. To cut a long story short she ended up earning a little extra overtime pay (slipped into her pocket, she wasn't a WG but I'm sure appreciated a small gift). She was a decided 5 all round in looks and performance but was a very nice girl who spoke excellent English and we enjoyed a couple of hours together. The best part was her being shy at the beginning as it kicked off. Can't say I find my usual PRC's shy!

I was in Kuwait for a further two days and she came to visit me again on both days although the last evening we had no time for anything other than a kiss and cuddle but she was really sweet. I have promise to stay in the same hotel the next time I go there so finally Kuwait is sorted.