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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2085120]I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.

You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.[/QUOTE]It is his first post but he posts like he is already a member and knows everything. It's obvious.[blue][Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin][/blue] Most members here do not wish to take advantage of the ladies in this manner. He can't walk away and say no? Anyways, you're entitled to your opinion and so am I.

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I know Thailand because I was married with a Thai wife between 1992 & 1999 a girl from Korat.

I know Internationalsexguide because I read the forum some month before then post.

I not post there because in my 18 days here I take only a girl in Phuket the first day.

(a bar girl 28 year.

Face 5 body 6 attitude 8.

I pay she 1000 LT but I eat 3 time with she barfine 300 lady drink 120 and altogether I spend 2000 on her.

CBJ because I not say it before no DFK no rimjob but I pass a very good time with she).

I thinked about posting a report but I not do it.

I suppose that if I was Indian my mastering of the english must be lot of cooler then what I wrote here.

I am not Indian but French.

Sedenya is the name of red moon goddess in the role playing game world of glorantha.

Role playing is a typical farang activities.

You go very speedly to judge.

I must have spended 4 time 1000 bath.

But you not take account of the fact that I did not simply have the money.

My budget allowed me an average clearance of 750 bath by day.

I spend 2000 on a girl my first day because I dreamed to have a good time so I make my dream happen.

But it damaged really my budget I go in Surat thani I sleep in a 100 bath dormitory for give my budget I and the rail.

So I have so few money why I come to Thailand?

Simply because I have a fucking better time here then in Europe.

I eat every day in restaurant some of the best food in the world (it is my opinion about Thai food).

I got in Phuket a room 297 by night with a wonderful swimming pool.

I fuck two girl in 3 week lot more then what can be expected for a 55 year old retired as me.

I love Thailand.

I abused of a poor little thing?

Maybe about the extra. But the 500 bath ST was freely contracted between her & me (as the extra).

In fact spend this 500 was not a good idea for me so I not intend to go.

Why I not simply say no? Because she was young and if my head say no my dick say yes!

Useless information?

This forum is full of report from people who have lot money to throw up the window.

So a low budget report cannot be useless.

I am somewhat ashamed because I will be happy to give her more money if I had it.

But in the end if she take the deal is because she thought better to have then not have it.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2085120]I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.

You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this one Jimmy Boy and there was no need for name calling. She could have refused but chose to accept his offer and to her credit provided the services promised. Regarding taking advantage of working girls, what about the massage shops and other venues that have daily charges for working there, make them pay for all supplies and levy fines for being late, leaving early or taking a day off for any reason and forcing them to sit there for 12-14 hours with no base salary. Many of the go go bars that do provide a base salary set a high drink and bar fine quotas and if the lady fails to meet the quota penalize her by deducting money from her salary in addition to a fine for being late or missing a day. I think this is a bigger issue that affects all of us.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2085120]I don't see how you infer from his post that he is using an alternate ID or that he is Indian.

You seem to overlook the fact that he stated that several times that he didn't have the money and that he didn't really want to go with her, apparently hoping that whatever he asked would be a deal-breaker for her and he could then refuse to go with her (although I don't see why he couldn't just say no to start with if he really didn't want to go with her), and finally went with her when the offer was too good to refuse, despite his original unwillingness to go with her. Perhaps, as Syzygies suggests, she may have been lucky to get even 500 bhat, since more particular men might have just walked away and she get nothing at all.[/QUOTE]Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.

It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.

The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.

Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.

His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.

When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.

I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.

[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2085267]Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.

It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.[/QUOTE]The report has been edited by Moderator and can't see the original comments what is being referred here.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2085319]The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.

Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.

His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.

When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.

I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.[/QUOTE]I never say I go with she for help her. I go with she for have my ball drained.

I not pay more because it was not in my capacities.

500 bath was a very very very low (and shameful) tarif? Maybe I not read well but I think I read somewhere that you can find this tarif in some blowjob bar in Pattaya.

I do believe to it was an acceptable tarif.

Girls from Bar / Club to Freelance Thai.

This kind of girl is often difficult to identify as she normally hangs out in bars and clubs just like everyone else and clearly has no label to let you know she is working. However, they are often more dressed than girls without work and show what they have.

Price: 500-2000 Baht for a short time and 2000-2500 Baht for a long time. Plus if you go to the bars and high end clubs. The good thing about freelance girls is that there is no fine bar, but there is some risk as they are totally self-employed and you do not know what they have in their head if they are about to leave the city. " source french -thailand [URL]redcat.com[/URL].

I was somewhat ashamed of my self because of the extra (rimjob mainly) at that time my intent was to find some good reason for not go but she want absolutely the deal.

500 was her proposal not mine and as I can find no reasonable reason for say no (from my point of view) my dick say yes at that time.

500 bath is 15 usd live here is at least 5 time less expansive that in western Europe so 15 dollars in Thailand is like 75 dollar in western Europe if about purchasing power.

In Europe find a street hooker for 50 dollar short time is somewhat easy.

I not intend to say I am white knight and I pay very well.

I intend to say I pay in the low part of the fork not outside of it it was no surprising there.

[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2085267]
It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. [/QUOTE]I think your blood boils a little too easily. Guys post plenty of annoying provocative exaggerated things on here. Stay cool man.

Don't expect only nice posts.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2085319]The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.

Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.

His arguing that he had no choice didn't want to go with her and what he did was really just to help her is nonsense. If that was his motivation just give her 200 baht and wish her good luck. I feel he took unfair advantage of her.

When it comes down to it visitors with only 500 baht in his pocket should not be out looking for the kind of sex he was after.

I do however agree that ascribing a particular ethnicity to him was presumptuous.[/QUOTE]How much does a thai man pay at thai only places? Isn't it a lot less then what foreigners pay? Is 500 baht not a common price for some places that are thai only? I don't know, so asking, not stating as fact.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2085319]The argument that she was lucky to get 500 Baht I find indefensible. Taking that to its logical conclusion would mean she would be lucky to get 400 300 200 even 100 baht or a bowl of noodles.

Taking advantage of a human being's desperate circumstances is simply wrong. It shows a gross lack of any semblance of decency. I realize it's a farcical proposition but there should a mandated minimum tariff for working girls.
[/QUOTE]May I remind you that a huge proportion of Thais make the minimum wage of 300 baht PER DAY. That's 8 hours of honest, hard work. While 500 baht is under the going rate for sex workers (in most venues), it is NOT a trivial or insulting amount in Thailand for an hour's work.

Up until 2014 or so, 500 baht was the going rate on Beach Road in Pattaya. It is still roughly what girls make per session in low-end venues (streetwalkers in Khlong Lot and Yaowarat, soapy massage in Sao Botan). Even in the well-known PSE Oilies like Tulip or Snow White, the girls don't make [I]that[/I] much more per hour: if entire 1500 "girl fee" actually goes to the girl for the 2 h session (not sure whether it does), she makes 750 for a full hour, with multiple pops, A+, rimming and all.

If a girl willingly agrees to 500 baht, or even 300 baht, nobody is taking advantage of her. Same as if a punter a agrees to 5000 baht, nobody is taking advantage of him, there's no coercion involved.

As for circumstances being desperate, there are many Thais far more worthy of sympathy than the working girls who can easily pull the 2-3 x daily wage compared to others with the same qualifications.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2085347]I think your blood boils a little too easily. Guys post plenty of annoying provocative exaggerated things on here. Stay cool man.

Don't expect only nice posts.[/QUOTE]Ya man. I agree. It's not worth it.

Yes 500 baht is more than some workers make in Bangkok. So what, that is not the issue here.

This guy sets out with 500 baht in his pocket, looking for a "BBBJ Rimjob DATY come with facial session" without having even the price of the short time room. That's the issue.

My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.

Obviously from the posts some members believe this to be perfectly acceptable may even applaud his finding somebody for 500 baht arguing that there was no coercion and she made more than working a shift at 7-11.

While respecting different points of view, I'm sorry but I find what he did was exploitative and he took advantage of the desperation of a 23 year old.

My advice to the gentleman in question is put it back in your trousers for a few days, save your daily allowance and pay whatever girl you go with a fair and reasonable fee for her time.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2085368]May I remind you that a huge proportion of Thais make the minimum wage of 300 baht PER DAY. That's 8 hours of honest, hard work. While 500 baht is under the going rate for sex workers (in most venues), it is NOT a trivial or insulting amount in Thailand for an hour's work..[/QUOTE]A year ago I was having a walk on Sukhumvit soi 77 and a security guard started talking with me as I walked in front of the small office building he was working in. The guy was nice and I had some time so I stopped and had a small chat with him. He was from Khon Khaen and was 36 year old. We talked about pretty much every thing and when the discussion went about girls, he told me he goes in the Suanluang area, takes one street walker for 200 bahts and pays 80 bahts for the ST room and he could do this only very few times in a month as his monthly salary was very low. And for guys that thinks 500 baht is nothing in Thailand, that man was renting a room nearby for 1000 bahts a month.

[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2085267]Spot on Jimmy Boy 99. I don't know how BKK jumped to the Indian conclusion so quickly.

It's posts like BKKs that really get my blood boiling. This is a public forum. If I have an experience, I will share it. If it helps somebody, great. But when Senior Members, who are very passionate about this hobby, start making xenophobic comments and ridiculing a members budget, well that just seems silly to me. We are all entitled to different opinions and we are all entitled to enjoy this hobby the way we want to.[/QUOTE]I also agree. I've noticed that BKKDOG tends to be a little more on the ornery side but I also tend to find this type of lively character to be commonly seen on forums that cater to foreigners who visit Thailand for the companionship scene. The anonymity of the internet does certain things to people's social filter but it often adds a bit of color if not taken seriously.

As far as the 500 baht goes, I'm quite shocked that its an issue, especially among this lot. It could be argued that the majority of the women working in this industry are doing so because of socio-economic pressures that are specific to Thailand. There is known [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] at play behind the scenes and just because you pay 2,000, 3,000, or 1000, you really don't know where that money is going. A large portion of that could be going toward nefarious entities, to feed a drug habit, or to pay for a child's education. So the lady keeps at it in order to satisfy these needs and to actually make some money for herself in the process. I read how guys are distraught that their favorite anal queen is not longer giving up her bum or that their lady didn't do a BBBJ / CIM so obviously there is a certain level of hypocrisy at play here.

On the other hand, it can also be argued that the majority are in this line of work because in the grand scheme of things its actually quite easy (especially given today's standards) and they can make serious bank. And while I think that 500 baht is below the minimum going rate, its not that bad when you consider that it was probably less than an hour's worth of effort on her part and she would have been able to get right back out there and find another customer. As someone else mentioned, there are ladies, especially among the FL crowd, that would have a difficult time pulling more than 500 baht. His numbers don't necessarily fit the description but YMMV.

On a more positive note, I do commend the gentlemen who do think that 500 is too low. If this were a Pattaya thread I think you'd have multiple posts asking for this ladies contact details.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2085400].

My position is there is an acceptable price for working in 7-11 and an acceptable price for what he wanted. They are not the same and he fell far short of what he should have paid namely the 1000 baht she asked for.


[/QUOTE]Let the people involved decide what is acceptable for themselves. Maybe the woman desperately needed the 500 baht.