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There are documented cases of people who have contracted coronavirus more than once.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491212]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.[/QUOTE]
This is continued from the Bogota forum.
I was due to spend the night with Stefany a tall lanky and very horny girl from Barranquilla. She has asked me to fly her to Medellin so she could stay with her cousin and get away from her super strict parents. When she came to my hotel room, it was like a reunion with a girlfriend. After dinner, she took care of me and the bedroom and she was insistent on blowing me and gave me and effort that is outlawed in the sex prison. When I finally climaxed, she swallowed ever drop, smiled and said, "I missed the taste of your cum."
I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.
My plans were with Susan that night, and I had been looking forward to finally fucking her after months. I had seen her before in a hotel like eight months ago, and I had fucked so much the night before that I could not perform with her even though she was stunningly beautiful. She had given a heroic effort to get Junior hard but it was not to be.
So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.
This is a repost but important enough to justify.
So far, the epidemiological evidence proves immunity. If immunity were not conferred, or wears off, you would hear about it everywhere and this would be a major blow against the war against coronavirus. That is simply not happening. Focusing on rare cases of reinfection misses the point and shows a lack of understanding of basic epidemiology and population health.
Rare, extremely rare, reports of reinfection with coronavirus support the immunity model, contrary to what you might think. Even if there are 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000 cases of reinfection reported, that supports the immunity model. BTW, most of these cases or reinfection are here say, but that is a moot point. I will explain it the best I can:
Many of the so called experts do not understand the epidemiology either, but the concept is not difficult. If immunity was not conferred by previous infection, then based on the known "attack" rate of the virus there would be tens of thousands to over a hundred thousand repeat cases in the United States alone, and hundreds of thousands of repeat cases if not millions, worldwide. This is simply not happening. These rare case reports of reinfection support the immunity model because they are in fact so very rare and not overwhelming.
There are a multitude of reasons why rare reinfections would be possible. The incidence of autoimmune diseases in the general population alone more than explains it, which would prevent these folks from developing a proper antibody immune response to the primary infection with coronavirus. The error rate of false positives and false negatives in the tests used to diagnose coronavirus would also go a long way to explaining the rare reinfections.
Finally, it's very personal for me because myself and my Colombian girlfriend have recovered from coronavirus. I was tested for antibodies a few weeks after I recovered, which came back "positive" or good, so I know I am immune. So is my girlfriend. One big less thing for us to worry about when I return. I also know every time I go get a PCR coronavirus antigen test that they are making everyone get, it will be negative. My novia and I joke about our "bubble of immunity" around us, but it's no joke. I would not show the antibody test result to immigration because it says "positive" and they are not intelligent enough to understand what it means, or more correctly, they are just following orders or policy.
Don't misquote me, the immunity might not be permanent but there is just as good a chance that it will be. But if immunity wanes, or a new strain develops where the current antibodies are not effective, it will quickly become evident by reports or large numbers of people getting coronavirus again. For now I am immune as is anyone who got infected and made antibodies, to the current strain, and basic statistics from the epidemiology proves it. Not lab tests, not opinions from infectious disease specialists, not agency heads, not politicians, not theory, not blogs, but fact. The main reason positive antibody test results are not accepted as proof of immunity is because the test is not FDA approved, and not because of some pathophysiology loophole. The average healthy person without any autoimmune disorder will make antibodies to a coronavirus infection. You have to be really sick with some other problem to not make antibodies, such as advanced HIV, or heavy-duty chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2490998]Its great to have a friend with benefits and do something for them that improves their life. Congratulations, that's a home run. She looks similar to my current housekeeper that comes to my apartment. I had to replace my prior girl (whom I absolutely adore) because she said she got a job in an Envigado restaurant. My current housekeeper is 20 years with flawless mocha / black skin. I was introduced by a friend and I offered her the job. Its not free, but between the cleaning and the sex its an incredible bargain. No kids and Her figure is remarkable. I had to measure her. 31" bust (gravity does not seem to exist under her shirt), 22" !! Waist. 32" ass / hips (again gravity immune). Really sweet and shy. A bit inhibited in bed but no strict boundaries.
By contrast, I spent the late afternoon / early evening in Conejitas yesterday. Not a lot of outstanding dancers. In fact some really big or even obese ladies on stage. However, I took a slim proportioned Venezolana with beautiful milky white skin. (The full extreme contrast to my mocha black housekeeper.) Big sexy glasses. A bit mechanical and business like with the typical first encounter boundaries. But, hey she's fucking a complete stranger from another culture, I get it. But I enjoyed it a lot. The "dirty secretary" experience. Will likely see her more.[/QUOTE]I'll comment on just one. You are so right about "typical first encounters." I always say the first time with a girl is a get acquainted session and the second one is when you start to see what she really has to offer. Put yourself in her shoes, like you did. For Christ's sakes she has to worry about safety, perversion, all kinds of scary shite. We do too, but that's not the point. When I say "get acquainted" I still mean fuck as many of their holes as soon as possible, but the real fun usually starts with the return visit, when you both have acknowledged, "Hey, this was fun, let's do it again" and more. I treat my girls in a way that encourages them to want to return and that pays off in the long run. BTW, that does not mean simply throwing pesos at them.
The one caveat that jumps out at me is if you only have a short time to visit, then this approach may not make as much sense for you. But even if you have only one week, a return visit with a girl you know you like is usually more fun that the first visit. Oh fuck, I almost contradicted one of my most important rules: Never bring back a girl within 24 hours or the next night after she left. Trust me on this one, not enough time and space to explain everything, but bring her back in 3, 4 days or a week. Every time I have not followed this rule, I have regretted it. Every--single--time. You just had an unbelievable rock-your-socks-off-all-night-fuck-fest and as she is leaving at sunrise, you are tempted to ask her back for that evening. Don't do it. I'll write more about it later, but for now, don't do it.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491212]If you're so sure you've had corona virus, wouldn't that mean you wouldn't get it again?
For, the kissing is a big part of the experience, but I understand where you're coming from. To each his own.[/QUOTE]It's fairly clear from the scientific community at this point that any immunity received is short lived. 2-3 months.
[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2491220]I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on tv, LOL, but I do agree with your statement in regards to antibody immunity. Even if I'm not immune, I'm relatively young, so getting it a second time wouldn't be the end of the world.
Also, I don't always practice what I preach. Sometimes, if the chemistry is there and she's super fine, then yes, I'll go for besos also. I just pray that the chica didn't just finish sucking some dude's the, right before I hook up with her LOL.[/QUOTE]The only thing crystal clear about this virus is THEY DON"T KNOW! They have been guessing about this virus for a year. Reversing opinions almost daily. I'm done with all of it. I'll try to stay safe by wearing a mask and washing my hands, and using sanitizer frequently. Other than that. Fuck it! I'm ignoring all of the politically inspired bullshit. How do you explain a husband and wife in a jail cell size cruise cabin, one gets the virus and the other not??
[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2491310]It's fairly clear from the scientific community at this point that any immunity received is short lived. 2-3 months.[/QUOTE]What the hell are you talking about? There was a paper literally released yesterday that said that immunity doesn't fall off quickly. [URL]https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/52/eabe5511[/URL].
"Our findings that the IgG response to SARS-CoV-2 antigens is stable over a 3-month period are consistent with other studies who likewise noted durability in the IgG response to the spike trimer".
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2491316] How do you explain a husband and wife in a jail cell size cruise cabin, one gets the virus and the other not??[/QUOTE]It is not impossible. It is only very unlikely. How many such cases were documented? Over millions of cases where disease was transmitted?
Disease transmission is a random phenomenon, where the probability of "success" depends on a quantity of various factors. One is the number of virus particles that enter the body, another the level of immunity. Even if you are vaccinated you can get a disease (the probability depends on how effective is the vaccine), while every year people who are not vaccinated do not get the flue (some of them will claim that the vaccine is useless). Nothing is 100,00% certain in medicine. Still knowing how to impact probabilities is a lot.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2491225]I am working on my list for the next trip. I have found a new 18 year old. Doesn't seem to be a puta. Has not asked me for a dime. Since she appears to be a non-pro, I would normally not share a foto. However, this foto does not show her face. And it relates to our discussion about beautiful pussies and chicas that have kids (this chica has a baby). I plan to eat her until she can't take any more. To me, this is one yummy pussy.
P.S. - if she turns out to be a prepago, I'll share her info if she wants me to. But I'm hoping she's not. Love girl next store pussy.[/QUOTE]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.
[QUOTE=Combo;2491344]Very unlikely a non / puta would give you a photo of her pussy. Yeah, that's a beautiful vagina.[/QUOTE]I don't know man, I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing the relative age of most mongers here put them in different generations than the girls we're chasing after. I get the feeling that pussy and dick picks are pretty common these days among the youngsters.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her [/QUOTE]Hey, thanks for the post. Very entertaining text. Just wondering what will happen if 1 of these girls finds out her pictures are being posted online? What if she retaliates? What if she gets violent?
Unless the girl is some sort of gem that cannot be replaced and that inspires a guy to pay more then 400,000 or 300,000 per meeting is okay. For the 1st meeting 500,000 is okay but then the price should go down closer to 300,000 or 400,000. This is a lot of money in MED. Let them go. If they want to charge rates from other continents They should go make friends in San Francisco and they will see not everything is golden there either. Plus, she's good looking but she is not an out of league sex goddess. Some of these girls think they are Lebron James.
Elvis is doing pretty good negotiating. But speaking of other guys. Have you guys had any male friends who acted like snobs when it came to money. Always making little sly comments about how rich they are or about their dads new store, or how now they are paying taxes in an offshore tax haven. These people come off as arrogant, snobby, and people often wonder if they are lying. All I'm saying guys, it doesn't pay off to act rich and throw money around. I think the girls will appreciate more down to earth humble Generous type of man. It's probably better to say I'm going to pay this amount so you can be happy and have fun and get to work but please don't think I have all this money that I can just throw around. And I hope that whatever you got you give back even more yourself with effort and hard work.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]I awoke that morning with an erection and Stefany took care of me again, but this time, I reminded her that I wanted her to go bare as she had agreed to. I got close to mounting her and she cried like a baby, "I am scared" Oh boy, here we go again I thought. I tried to explain things to her about safety and condoms but I got nowhere. I grabbed a condom and finished off inside her. We agreed to have lunch with her cousin, and I agreed to pay for some shopping. Stefany's cousin spoke English and had an American boyfriend, and I winced upon learning that. Stefany had stayed the night and asked for 500,000 COP which really is not that excessive given the exchange rate. The problem is that meeting her cousin had led to a sea change in attitude. I said goodbye to Stefany and told her that I might see her the following night because I had business plans, the business being meeting other women, and she seemed sad to see me go.
My plans were with Susan that night, and I had been looking forward to finally fucking her after months. I had seen her before in a hotel like eight months ago, and I had fucked so much the night before that I could not perform with her even though she was stunningly beautiful. She had given a heroic effort to get Junior hard but it was not to be.
So I change hotels and go to the Medellin Marriott. It is really nice. Gym and pool are open and are fabulous. I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.[/QUOTE]You met her on [URL]Seeking.com[/URL]? Any other websites you recommend to make contact with girls (other than Facebook) that I should use? Colombiacupid maybe?
Showdown.
I agree. Some of my other young non-pros send me fotos and videos on occasion to keep me interested. If this new girls is a pro, I'll be surprised. But based on 15 years of experience, I know that you never know until you actually see them.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2491354]I don't know man, I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing the relative age of most mongers here put them in different generations than the girls we're chasing after. I get the feeling that pussy and dick picks are pretty common these days among the youngsters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2491244]
I put Susan's name on the guest list. And she blows me off. "I am really busy studying and I do not know if I can meet." Say what? *****, I have been giving you money keeping you afloat through the quarantine and you do this?
I had a feeling the help I was giving was going to be all for naught, and in some ways, it was and it some ways it was not. More on that later. Anyway, I was somewhat horny and decided to go to Parque Lleras where there was not a hooker to be found.
I could reach out to Stefany again but I had soured on her attitude. There was a girl, a world class beauty on seeking I had talked to named Kiara. Thing with Kiara is that she bitched about how little the money I had given her. I told her that if she was going to be equally happy with the money I gave her and nothing, she could take nothing. I did not know how she would respond if I reached out to her, but she responded to me, told me she was free and agreed to come see me.
Kiara was one of the two world class beauties I had met on my trip. She looked as good if not better than she did in her pictures. She had a car, parked in the garage, and I was able to sneak her in without paying a guest fee.
We ordered dinner and when we talked, it was like one word answer after another. Finally, she said, "I have to get going so if we are going to be intimate, now is the time." Kiara basically was using seeking not as a sugar baby but as pay for play, but she was so hot, I was cool with that.
I paid her $100 for basically two hours and I thought she would be lousy in bed, but she went at sex like a true Colombian and even got off but everything was covered and there was no DFK.
While this girl truly had super model looks, she did not have what I would call a super model type feel and was not tight all over like I expected. Still, if you want to fuck a 10 in Medellin, you should get on [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and message Kiara and see if she responds. I am sure she gets a lot of messages on seeking though and you are going to have play yourself up like you are really rich to get her attention though.[/QUOTE]Western union fails again. Guys. Just don't do it. . and sir. You waaaaaaay overpaid for all of this.