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Believing Thai working girls are such prudes to label a customer simply asking for swallowing a psycho is naive. It is behavior that qualifies not sexual preferences. A customer trying to stick his tongue down her throat against her wishes or continuing banging her past the point where she is experiencing pain more particularly the nut job who enjoys this that's my definition of a psycho.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2090118]I agree the ladies are not overly impressed with farangs who pick up the lingo especially those that insist on communicating with them in Thai. I feel they prefer that invisible protective barrier of we not understanding what they are talking about when they are chatting amongst themselves. They will be far more impressed and interested in your generosity and your respect for them.[/QUOTE]I have never had that experience, in fact quite the contrary. When I talk Lao or Thai the girls find it cute and are very happy to communicate. Perhaps it depends on what you say and how you say it.
Back in town last night, I've set my goal at 20 for the 11 nights I'll be here.
Staying close to Nana Plaza (a 3 minute walk) I immediately head there, thinking, take your time. Go into a few places. Be picky. But I end up with the first girl I talk to in the first bar I go into.
That's what starving yourself of booty will do.
I stop in Lollipop. The first go go bar you come to and. I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with some of the lineup. I take it the theme is 'young' and most look that way. Though certainly 'legal'. In particular I see a very, very skinny girl, with large bolt-ONS, and a cute smile on a pretty face, accentuated by her braces.
I want that.
Let's get #1 out of the way.
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Let me make sure of a few things.
Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.
Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.
We decide to get a room across the way, even though my hotel is close by. I'm just ready to start. And she does not disappoint. For being young (she says 22, but looks 18, says she's only been doing this 'one month' Uh hunh.), she is quite skilled at what she does. If you like super skinny girls with big bolt-ONS, she is a 10. Soft tongue, sweet kisses, still with sensitive nipples on those big puppies, long silky black hair, and she loves to be given oral. Such a tiny little punami. Do all Thai girls have such small openings, or am I just somehow lucky enough to consistently pick them?
She is skilled at giving oral as well and soon I am ready to take her in a couple of positions. Her on top, then sitting, then missionary. Unfortunately when we get to doggie, the condom breaks inside of her. She's a bit freaked but I hadn't cum yet. Still. Need to go get checked. At least I stopped when I realized it had broken. These in-country condoms are too small. After washing up, she finishes me off orally, and lets me cum on her breasts. We talk a bit and I ask if she likes other girls and if she'the be up for three of us next time and she is very enthusiastic about that.
I walk her back (I can't remember her name, but I do plan to at least have a drink with her before I go, so I'll get it then) and go in to check out Bangkok Bunnies. Either all of the talent is checked out early or, I have to wonder what happened to this place? Lollipop had a much better selection.
[QUOTE=SexInStl;2090631]
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Let me make sure of a few things.
Real kissing? Yep. DATY? Enthusiastic yes! No condom blow job? She doesn't understand. I create my own hand signals and demonstrate somehow and she nods yes.
Let's go! The less of these over priced drinks I have to buy the better!
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah.
[/QUOTE]If you tell us how much you paid then we are ready to crucify you, LOL!
(apart from the $700 BF but I suppose it was THB 700).
The AMP scene in Bangkok is so in your face all night and every night, compared to the more sedate less obvious AMP scene in Dubai.
Have to say I prefer the Dubai scene, and looking forward to going home tonight. Before Bangkok completely sends me round the bend.
[QUOTE=SexInStl;2090631]
$700 for BF? When did that start?
Now I'm sure every long time poster here is ready to crucify me, for a number of different reasons; 'the old days" blah blah blah "Paying too much" blah blah blah. It is what it is. I'll pay less the other 10 nights of my trip. Right now I want what I want, and THIS girl, gets enough business that she doesn't need to negotiate. She even tells me, no to LT. The only way this part of the market is going down in price is if business drys up badly. And compared to the month of May when I was here. It looks much more busy.
[/QUOTE]700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices? To be honest its been a while since I BFed someone in BKK. Most of my recent experiences in BKK has been with freelancers (Thermae, Levels, etc.).
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2090817]700 (Baht) sounds good to me. Isn't it 1 K before midnight in most places? Or am I thinking of Pattaya prices? [/QUOTE]Gogo bar barfines are higher in Pattaya than BKK.
Thinking, maybe I'm okay with one for the first night. A bit tired from traveling, I go and get my camera and do some filming around Nana Plaza. I walk thru the agressive ladyboys and stop in to look at some places I just never have got around to. Completely avoid Spanky's, in and out of Angelwitch. Just not into the whole leather, goth thing. Look around Sexy Night to see if the girl from back in May might still be there (she's not) and then into Billboard, which I didn't care for last time.
On the main stage, a girl, who looks like another girl I remember from Soi Cowboy in May. The complete opposite of the one I was with earlier, she is all natural, small breasted and I meet eyes with her a few times. She finally motions if I want to get a drink. I do. We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but. What a cute little body. Barely 5 feet tall, she worries that she doesn't have a good enough body, because she's been away for three years having a son, but I think her body is fantastic. Small waist, just enough ass to matter, small natural breasts that show no signs of wear and tear (though her nipples are a little extended and soft, from breast feeding), and such a pretty face and a big, sweet smile.
All of the foreplay is great. She is especially loving and warm. Which is surprising by what I find out later. But. I can tell she isn't into being given oral. Which is a shame, because she also has an amazingly small, beautiful punami, that I'the love to work on for a little bit, but. No real reaction. Good thing SHE is good at giving oral.
But THEN. She doesn't have a condom. Damn. Neither do I. In my haste to get started I didn't pick any up. So, we finish without actual intercourse, but she spends a good deal of time cuddling and talking, and still even playing around a bit.
She tells me, about her baby's daddy (not together anymore) and her out of country 'boyfriend', who she outright admits she is lying to for the money. I mean, I know it's part of things, but this is my first time hearing someone directly tell me. She admits she hates sex. And does this solely for the money to provide for her young one. I know these things, from reading. And yet, this is my first time hearing it from one of them.
I tell her, I hope one day she finds someone that DOES turn her on. Who treats her well and that makes her happy. She kind of smile / laughs, but. Who knows. Maybe life is so day to day here it just DOESN'T matter. I walk her back and we take a picture together and I tell her I'll stop in and have a drink with her tomorrow.
I need some sleep. At least a nap.
[b]Bangkok. DAY ONE. Girl #2[/b]
[QUOTE=SexInStl;2090859]-snip-
We sit and talk and eventually go back to my hotel (ok, yeah the $700 BF is annoying, I'm going all FL and negotiation for a few days), and she acts shy, but.
-snip-[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess you're sticking with the $700 barfine report rather than amending it to 700 THB. $700 would be upwards of about 22,400 THB just for the barfine! So in that case I will be the first to crucify you for way, way, way over-paying. Especially since the barfine doesn't even include the amount you're going to pay the girl. And I am not a member of the Price Policel! LOL.
Ok, let's assume you really do mean to say 700 THB and not $700. That isn't a high barfine by today's standards. Not in many if not most Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy go-go bars. As was mentioned earlier, many go-go bars charge 1,000 THB or more before midnight for the barfine. In a few go-go bars there is a two-tier pricing for barfines and for certain girls it is more than 1,000 THB even after midnight.
I took a girl from Enter Bar on the third level of Nana Plaza a couple of nights ago and the barfine was 1,000 THB at around 9:45 PM. Enter Bar is a relatively new go-go bar that I believe is owned and managed by the same people as Billboard and Butterflies. Not positive about that but I have seen several girls rotate from one bar to another. For example, generally speaking, this particular go-go bar, Enter, has decidedly lesser girls in terms of attractiveness. But every now and then you can take a peek through their curtained doorway and spot a gem that would fit more naturally in, say, Billboard, but is working in Enter tonight. This girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB barfine, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.
That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for P4P STs in Bangkok, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2090926]girl was a very sweet angel faced cutie with long legs, slim body, a nice booty, perky firm breasts. After a couple of Lady Drinks, some determined lap dancing and cuddling, she answered my brief and direct interview questions positively. So with that I agreed to pay the 1,000 THB, agreed to pay her asking price for ST of 3,000 THB (after she agreed to my personal requirements as well, that is) and off we went. No rush in my apartment, were together and enjoying from about 10:45 PM to 1:15 AM and I was so pleased with how things worked out I went back to the bar with her afterwards and bought us another set of drinks. Well worth it IMO.
That was a greater amount of money than I generally spend for barfine and ST, but, as you alluded to, if it is something that you really want and it is right there for the taking, I'm happy to pay it. I am not going to walk away from the right girl with the right chemistry and, most importantly, the right answers to my interview questions for the sake of saving 500-1,000 THB on a given night. Plenty of other nights I can spend less, often much less, sometimes even nothing but the cost of dinner and taxi (with regular date girls around town for example). It all works out fine. And when this girl drops out of the scene, which seems to happen much sooner than it used to, I have no doubt a Line message from me will bring her directly to my apartment for 2,000 THB including taxi to and from for ST and that ST might easily extend into LT until the following afternoon.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a nice night to me. I will keep my eyes peeled for more such reports about Enter Bar and other honky tonks I have not been to. There are never enough good Go Go's in my opinion. I can always enjoy one more to add to my repertoire. 4 months and counting before take off. Reservations all made although nothing is set in stone except the plane ride. Can't wait! It's going to be a marathon lollapalooza.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2090926][b]Bangkok. DAY ONE. Girl #2[/b]
LOL. I guess you're sticking with the $700 barfine report....[/QUOTE]LOL, yes I need to correct that!
It seemed I was paying 500 Baht bar fine back in May though. Maybe it was a slower time?
Good to know it isn't abnormal.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2090929]Sounds like a nice night to me. I will keep my eyes peeled for more such reports about Enter Bar and other honky tonks I have not been to. There are never enough good Go Go's in my opinion. I can always enjoy one more to add to my repertoire. 4 months and counting before take off. Reservations all made although nothing is set in stone except the plane ride. Can't wait! It's going to be a marathon lollapalooza.[/QUOTE]I went into Enter bar Sunday night about 11 nights ago. The line up was quite small. Maybe only one miderately good looking girl to my taste.
As a newvie to the bar, the gurls were acting quite stupidly towards me like I was a newbie to Thailand. I don't need girls frantically lointing to those on the stage to rush me to choose someone.
Actually was bot very impressed with the bar. However several bars visited had weak line ups on that particular bar. One visit does not prove much.
You might find the number of girls a bit limited.
I tried searching for Thermae on the thread but came up with 20+ pages of hits. I get it's a FL spot underneath a hotel and the prices are all over the thread. I can't find what happens next?? Is the hotel its under used rented out for ST use? If so, how much?
[QUOTE=Dinotrex;2090982] I can't find what happens next?? Is the hotel its under used rented out for ST use? If so, how much?[/QUOTE]Talk to the girl. She may ask for more than 2500 baht but 2500 baht is the going rate. If she won't budge move on to the next girl there are many. If you are not a preferred customer ie. a younger Asian guy, you may get a surcharge. Again, move on to the next girl. After 2 am the girls start to panic so you may get someone to go for 2000 baht. Don't expect the hot ones to do this though.
Take the girl back to your hotel if it's nearby or rent a room at the hotel upstairs. The hotel above Thermae is the Ruamchit Plaza Hotel, not to mixed up with Ruamchit Travelodge. You can rent ST rooms there but since I usually take 2 or 3 girls in a night I just rent the room for the night for about 1000-1700 baht, depending on the room size. I'm guessing ST rooms are about the same rate.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2090979]I went into Enter bar Sunday night about 11 nights ago. The line up was quite small. Maybe only one miderately good looking girl to my taste.
As a newvie to the bar, the gurls were acting quite stupidly towards me like I was a newbie to Thailand. I don't need girls frantically lointing to those on the stage to rush me to choose someone.
Actually was bot very impressed with the bar. However several bars visited had weak line ups on that particular bar. One visit does not prove much.
You might find the number of girls a bit limited.[/QUOTE]The only other girl I took from Enter about a month ago now dances topless in the soapy tub in Billboard. Saw her in Billboard a few days ago and she said she transferred over from Enter because it has the same owner. I don't remember reading that anywhere else so not sure if it is true. Most of the time I only peek into Enter while making the rounds and don't go inside because of their uninspiring line-up. Actually, the second girl I took from there a couple of nights ago wasn't inside the bar but was sitting outside eating and arm hooked me as I tried to pass by. As it turned out, this time I was glad she did.
I think Natty's characterization of it as one of the smaller "honky tonk" bars is about right. IMO, one should never underestimate the surprise pleasures guys can often find in such bars. One interesting observation is, despite the much smaller line-up in Enter, during the hour or so I spent in there the other night and the time before I counted more take-outs and returning girls in street clothes obviously having been taken out than during that same amount of time in either Billboard or Twister Bar. For whatever that is worth. Have to say the only two girls I have taken from there were fun, no nonsense, no unpleasant surprise providers of exactly what I asked of them and they agreed to in the bar. That counts for a lot as far as I am concerned. However, they were also two out of maybe only 4 girls I have ever seen in there that I'd want to take in terms of their attractiveness.