Bangkok Reports

Well I finally reached Bangkok, there was still an hour left for my room to be ready, the first place I thought to go was tulip, but the line up was not great at all, then walked towards snow white and again the line up wasnt great, so came back to my hotel, took a shower and rested for sometime.

Then I thought to go to bamboo, the lady at the reception showed only one girl and she looked good, I booked a 2 hour session in the "VIP" room, I was told only 1 shot, I said when I am taking a 2 hour session then I need 2 shots, so then she finally agreed. The girl told me to wait in the room, in pictures on their website the VIP room looks big but in reality it is quite small. She came in the room after 10 minutes we went in the shower, it was pretty mechanical, no BJ, no kissing.

Then I laid on the bed and she gave me a really good massage, it was actually very good and I enjoyed it, after 45 minutes when it came to some action she dint give a BBBJ, it was covered, I asked her politely but she refused, then she was on top of me and when I tried to kiss she just moved away, so a DFK was a far away, she dint even let me kiss on her lips, then she was fake moaning and in 15 minutes I came, I dint feel like going for the 2nd round, so I took a massage for 20 minutes and finished the session 40 minutes early.

Overall it was not worth 2600 bht, I heard good reviews about bamboo and as it was my first time here I expected something good, maybe its because I am fat and people from my place don't have a good name here.

She did seem like a sweet person, but it was too mechanical, no GFE or pse, so it was not worth for me.

This is my first ever report on here, sorry if I made some mistakes.

So as its my first day here, I thought to check out the places which I was reading about for months, I went to Soi 3 first at 8 pm to check out the Arab / CIS ladies outside Grace but sadly there none, I was expecting a lot of free lancers not only Arab but Thai also, but there were like only 4 or 5 Thai ones.

Then I walked towards Soi 4, in reality the lane is not the wide how it looks it the videos, again not a lot of freelancers outside Nana hotel, I just walked on and the bars did seem cool, some had pretty nice music, then as it was mentioned I could find some middle eastern / Iranian / CIS ladies outside Ronny's NY Pizza but only 3 or 4 Thai ladies out there.

I did the whole thing again at 9.30 pm thinking that maybe I could see some but sadly I could not, I expected it to be overcrowded as its Friday night, but it seemed dull.

Then well when I entered my hotel I saw 2 eastern European or Russian girls walking towards it, they looked very high profile, then instead of taking the lift they took a stairway which I dint even know existed, it basically led towards a night club which caters Arab clients, so I assume I can find some CIS ladies there but their prices would be rocket high.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste][Quote=EihTooms[ViewOriginalPost]
On the above point, whenever the situation allows I will make sure to walk my higher priced go-go dancer ladies past one or two of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment, casually mentioning what those cute girls (there is almost always at least 1 or 2 cute ones sitting outside) do for men and how much (rather, how little) they charge for it. It is always a nifty and I think overall useful learning experience for the 700+ baht barfine plus 2000+ fee girl who had no idea what a man could be choosing over her on this or any other night for a fraction of what he is paying to be with her to be made better aware of her competition for both service and price in the immediate area. lol.[/QUOTE]

This is an interesting MO and it could work well or very easily go sideways. What will be your response if the girl you are with simply asks you "Yet you picked me and paid the higher price. Why?[/QUOTE]LOL. Well, it isn't meant to "work" in that way. I am not asking her to "price match" or anything like that. I don't do it in order to somehow re-negotiate an agreement we already made or change the usual terms between a go-go girl and her customer in store for us this night. It is often unavoidable to walk past a couple of those BJ Bars on the way to my apartment with another girl and I find that most girls are not familiar with the format, have no idea what the conditions are in those BJ Bars or how much the girls charge. Since they charge way less than what it costs to take a go-go girl, even for FS in one of their ST rooms, I like to inform them about why there might have been fewer customers in their go-go bar willing to spend that much and instead might very well choose this option instead.

Nothing like what you mentioned above has ever been asked of me. The most common response is the girl gasping at the idea that some cute young Thai girls in a venue right down the soi from her go-go bar, and some of whom look like they could easily fit in on a go-go bar stage line-up, are only charging 800 baht for a BBBJ+CIM. Or only 1,700 baht for the FS option, including the room and no tip above that required! LOL.

However, if I were asked the question you mentioned, I would probably reply with something like, "Yeah, I probably shouldn't do that. Pang pang (very expensive). But I really wanted to be with you tonight."

[QUOTE=Slash787;2091571]
I did the whole thing again at 9.30 pm thinking that maybe I could see some but sadly I could not, I expected it to be overcrowded as its Friday night, but it seemed dull.
[/QUOTE]Even 9:30 PM is probably a bit early. Freelancers outside Nana Hotel may arrive later than that. Try 11 PM+.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2091321]True to a certain extent. But some things cannot defy logic and basic market forces forever in the face of rent being due and mobile phone data refills being needed today, not to mention the sick grandmas and the family water buffalo needing another transmission overhaul asap. What would you say is the reason a freelancer perfectly suitable for standing somewhere in the Thermae line-up (there are some), and, in my experience, often much more capable and agreeable to providing better service, won't come in from the rain or the heat and away from much more public view and start asking for 2,500 baht per ST instead of the 1,000 baht she usually gets by standing on the sidewalk?
[/QUOTE]For once I sort of agree. There must be some reason for girls to take 1 K to 1. 5 K on sidewalk over 2. 5 K in Thermae. The reasons may vary. Simply if the girl is sure she can compete in Thermae and likes Japanese customers, for sure she will be prefer that. Too obvious. Thermae is probably a gossip full area. If a girl has some problems like horribly saggy tits or train tracks stomach, it will probably become known quickly by Thermae regulars. Girls with severe defects are likely to be on the street. Girls of perfection are less likely to be there.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2091723] The most common response is the girl gasping at the idea that some cute young Thai girls, some of whom look like they could easily fit in on a go-go bar stage line-up, are only charging 800 baht for a BBBJ+CIM. Or only 1,700 baht for the FS option, including the room and no tip above that required! LOL.
[/QUOTE]Well I really must make a few passes, to see if they really have such cuties available for cheap fuck. Just BBBJ isn't really my thing. I used to do Anne at Loiltas who was quite cute (fabulous ass) and even doctor BJ had a couple of reasonable lookers some years back.

However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2091724]Even 9:30 PM is probably a bit early. Freelancers outside Nana Hotel may arrive later than that. Try 11 PM+.[/QUOTE]Thanks, any idea how is the Bollywood dance bar?

Sunday a couple of weeks back a lot of bars had really poor line ups including Crazy House. Last night was back to the expected standard and in fact all of my regular girls were present. All 3 of the girls I fuck had returned just that night or very recently. Co-incidence. Two girls had to end up being disappointed. There were a few other girls with quite immaculate bodies as well, and looking very sexy, that would find quite doable for looks at least, e. G. No. 15 with glasses was playing with a customer sitting next to me. I would easily take her if my regulars were absent. Did not notice any faults about her and her manner was appealing. Not too shy and not too excessively raunchy. Just right for me. Some nights the line up is no where near this standard.

The main point is one visit to a bar does not make us really know the standard. It has ups and downs.

Every bill including barfines gets signed by the customer in case of bill disputes. In fact my bill was wrong. First time in a while, however I knew how many drinks were on the bill, and as every drink was either 160 or 170 baht, it is easy to do a multiplication. Suppose one had 5 drinks and two were only 160. I just do 5 x160=800 add 3 x10 = 830. So get to the total very easily, no matter how many drinks it is a similar calculation. So the bill was corrected. The Waitress did not believe the cashier would make mistake until she used a calculator to add it. LOL. Naive. Use of calculators easily makes mistakes. I am an old guy trained to do math without calculator. LOL Waitress could not understand how I got the total so quickly without a calculator. LOL Arithmetic training in the modern day is poor I guess. They don't know that calculators are the slow and error prone way.

My girl claimed she had not been fucked for several weeks. It was possible as was her first night back and pussy was tight. For once, after fairly long DATY, and short BBBJ (her jaw was out of practice LOL) I was fucking her in doggy, and after 5 mins or so I really had to start using control not to explode. This never happens to me normally, where I know is quite normal for most guys. I never have urge to cum in a big hurry, normally. As it was, this was the shortest duration fuck I have had in a long time. The doggy was just that exquisite. Did not use the full hour for once. Condom was One Touch 003. I recommend it. The feeling was good. Not quite to BB standard of course, but was much easier to get on that Okamoto 003 (made for Japanese) that are just too small. I have tried the Polyurethane type condoms but I don't really like them. Probably the girl's very slim immaculate slim figure was working for me and her small ass was very well shaped and sexy. I will take her again on a quiet night for 90 mins to 2 hours next time. Who knows, if she feels this good, I might even manage two pops. I have known her for a long time, since Crazy Opened about 4+ years ago.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2091735]My girl claimed she had not been fucked for several weeks.[/QUOTE]I imagine there are a lot of gals in that same situation. At the prices they want and the service they deliver; of course that is an issue. Go for 1500ST and she'll get several STs a night. But they'll never do that. So most won't make any money. Amazing these gals. Personally I am glad to see them getting less biz. The entire GoGo scene is completely full of itself. With the exception of a very few bars, most are doing poorly. Punters are tired of the crap service, mediocre gals with bad attitudes, and high prices. They did it to themselves.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2091732]However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.[/QUOTE]Personally, I have never seen a gal that I would rate worthy of being "expensive" in any GoGo bar. I think they all need a walk past the BJ bars. It's good for 'them. I mean come on guys; none of the gals in GoGo bars rank as class escorts. All Thai people can pick out a P4P gal at 100 yards. Expensive in my mind would be a gal you could take to a 5 star restaurant, would understand the menu, have eaten the food before, could appreciate it, and would be looked at by Asian and Western dudes alike. You're not finding that in a GoGo bar. And paying over 100 USD for a farmer's daughter makes just no sense to me. Never has. "What your name? Are you holiday?" Give me a break. Expensive? Huh?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2091735]Every bill including barfines gets signed by the customer in case of bill disputes. In fact my bill was wrong. First time in a while, however I knew how many drinks were on the bill, and as every drink was either 160 or 170 baht, it is easy to do a multiplication. Suppose one had 5 drinks and two were only 160. I just do 5 x160=800 add 3 x10 = 830. So get to the total very easily, no matter how many drinks it is a similar calculation. So the bill was corrected. The Waitress did not believe the cashier would make mistake until she used a calculator to add it. LOL. Naive. Use of calculators easily makes mistakes. I am an old guy trained to do math without calculator. LOL Waitress could not understand how I got the total so quickly without a calculator. LOL Arithmetic training in the modern day is poor I guess. They don't know that calculators are the slow and error prone way.[/QUOTE]I always suspected you to be an accountant. I might be right! LOL.

[QUOTE=Hiete;2091743]I always suspected you to be an accountant. I might be right! LOL.[/QUOTE]No no. That was very basic arithmetic. I won a major prize in a maths competition once. Scientific investigations and diagnosis of problems is a part of my work. Clearly I have no writing skills. LOL Too lazy to write proper English.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2091741]I mean come on guys; none of the gals in GoGo bars rank as class escorts. All Thai people can pick out a P4P gal at 100 yards. [/QUOTE]I think you are grossly generalising here.

There is little doubt that the right gogo bars have SOME girls that are far better looking than what the BJ bars have. One Coyote in Shark the other day (No. 348) I would give a 9 for body (what I could see) and 8+ for face. Looking at pics in the Escort sites, It would not be easy to find an Escort to match her looks (based on my taste of course). Yes the price is too high. I agree with that part. She may well cost more than an Escort in the end, I don't know. Most likely she is no porn star. I used to like a Coyote in Mercury whose looks were far above the normal Escort standard. She wasn't available for sex supposedly, yet too many customers trying to get her time. Just dancing and selling drinks.

Sure I will go use BJ bars for FS if I can find a girl good enough, and save money. I have had regulars there in the past. How many of them had a perfect body? Hardly any. Anne at Lolytas (gone now) had a body good enough to turn me on. Great ass! No others with body that good, I have met in a BJ bar. If great girls with nice bodies exist in the BJ bars, who are they?

We can all spot hookers from a distance. No problem. However not all of them are so obvious. I remember taking a girl from Thermae years ago that worked as a Hotel cleaner and was only suddenly in Thermae as desperate for money after her husband was killed in an accident. Would she immediately look like a hooker? Not really. There is no sudden transformation in appearance in all cases.

If I thought Escorts were so good, for sure I would be using them. All the surgeries causing unnatural to weird alien looks, is a significant turn off for me. I will try an Escort sometime soon and report. Need to check into a Hotel first. The lucky dip element of choosing an Escort does not really appeal to me being a picky type.

What is the charge for your so called "Classy" Escorts? I assume that may be quite high. Obviously if a girl is hot enough, classy enough good enough, she can move into a very high priced bracket and still get customers. I guess most BJ bar girls are not good enough to move into higher priced bracket P4P positions and still get enough work.

Plenty of bar girls of course are not good enough (yes all over priced) and they struggle to get a customer for one reason or another. Even one of my CH girls does not have an abundance of customers, due to competition in the bar, not being every man's spec (white skin but small tits), and really a bit too shy to be suited to the venue, and a slightly combative kooky personality that I have got used to dealing with (a few tequilas works wonders with her to become a real goer on the bed). Certainly not like a Classy Escort. Too crazy. LOL I don't pick girls for purpose of classy conversation. I pick them to be a beautiful exciting horny fuck.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2091732]Well I really must make a few passes, to see if they really have such cuties available for cheap fuck. Just BBBJ isn't really my thing. I used to do Anne at Loiltas who was quite cute (fabulous ass) and even doctor BJ had a couple of reasonable lookers some years back.

However the thought on walking an expensive girl past there makes me cringe a little. The girls you and I see as cute may not be cute to everyone. These shops mostly are full of uglies, or fatter girls they maybe cute to someone else.[/QUOTE]The best lookers I have seen will be working the day shift at Kasalong Bar. Unless they are busy inside with customers, the better looking ones generally congregate together at the table right next to the passage between Kasalong Bar and L0lita's Bar.

When I happen to walk by those bars (at night since that is when the go-go bars are open and I would be taking a girl past those bars), I don't stop and chat it up with anyone, don't make a big show of pointing out anything or anyone. I just discretely and quitely ask the girl I am with if she know about that bar up ahead. Just as one might a restaurant. She always says no or just assumes it is a massage shop of some kind. And that is when I let her know why the girls are wearing uniforms, that it is not a go-go bar, no dancing inside and what the specialty of the house is. The girl will often ask how much. If she doesn't ask, I will challenge her to guess how much such a service might cost in that place. And then it just goes on casually from there. The girls outside those bars never have reason to know I am chatting about that with the girl they see me walking by with.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2091741]Personally, I have never seen a gal that I would rate worthy of being "expensive" in any GoGo bar. I think they all need a walk past the BJ bars. It's good for 'them.[/QUOTE]Some of these go-go girls work in a bubble where they seem to genuinely believe that the amount their bar and they are charging is pretty much the going rate everywhere in the area, that we the customers have very little choice in the matter, that there is no real competition out there and that it is silly for any of us to think we could ever get a Thai girl to do this or that for significantly less than their opening quote. Therefore, I try never to miss a golden opportunity to point out how wrong they are, but in a casual, light-hearted, simply small talk conversational way. For instance, if they seem the least bit curious about those Nana Hotel parking lot girls, I tell my girl how much they generally ask for and/or get for ST; 1,000 baht. "So many girls out tonight. Do you know any of those girls?" And on from there. Same with the BJ Bar deal. But I won't mention both in the same night with the same girl. No need to bombard her with this kind of reality check. A couple of times lately, I have asked them if they have ever heard of Smooci and lay out the price structure there as well, which competes very well with go-go bar prices at coming in less minus the Lady Drink costs. Why not? It doesn't hurt to burst their bubble whenever possible.

It won't and shouldn't necessarily change anything about the agreement that has already been made that night between me and the go-go girl I happen to be with. But if we exchange Line contact info afterwards and the inevitable Line message comes in from her in the next 2-3 days with her asking for me to come take her or meet her again, I know she has been made well aware that keen competition for price and service levels is quite a bit more known and available to me than she might have thought when she first met me. So it is much, much easier to make our second or subsequent sessions together far less costly than the first one, sometimes by almost a couple of thousand baht overall. She will simply be less bold and certain about how much her time and efforts ought to cost me.

Next time a go-go dancer quickly drops her opening quote by a significant amount or ups the level of service she had been holding to in response to little more than a brief hesitation and a disapproving look from the customer, that customer might consider the possibility that EihTooms has once upon a recent time taken her on one of his little reality check P4P cost and service level tours in the area. LOL.