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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2092775]The black girls walking around the radius of the Nana area are butt ugly for the most part. I have seen only 1 that was what I would consider hot enough to take to my room. And admittedly, she was quite hot and I did consider taking her to my room. But in my opinion, no guy in their right mind should be even considering 99% of those black girls. The quality level is garbage.[/QUOTE]Is there more than normal in this area? In my previous trips here, it seemed they were mainly around the darker inbetween area from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy. Now they're clustered right in front of my hotel and all along Soi 4 and they're very aggressive at times. Clearly look away and they still try and step in front of you and grab your arm. I have yet to see one that I thought was hot and even attractive. Very annoying.
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Cis
Too rich for my blood. Thanks though.
[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;2093379]There are plenty of CIS girls in BKK but most operate through agencies (Mafia?) and demand ridiculous price. I am generally not interested in CIS girls in BKK. Met one true freelancer a few months back thro' backpage ads. She sent her pics and was really stunning. Even had a video chat with her. Everything was on offer but she wanted 300 US $ for 2 hours. That is ridiculously high price to pay for a ST. So I passed. Still have her number. If you are interested, PM me.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2093417]Hit Soi Cowboy tonight. First thing you notice is all the neon signs above the bars are all turned off. I'm assuming this is because of the King. A bit darker to walk through.
Crazy House. The second you walk in the staff are on you to buy a drink. Nothing changes I guess. Lots of girls for sure for a tiny bar. I saw maybe 1 girl who was drink worthy. Only a 1 night layover again so time was too valuable to waste here.
Suzy Wong. Read so much about this club on here I figured it would have hot girls. I was also drawn in by a coyote in the front. Turns out she was the only decent girl. If this gogo bar were on Walking Street in Pattaya it would have the second worst lineup only ahead of Heaven Above. Never again.
[/QUOTE]You failed to read my report about Suzi Wong having died completely? Already had a weak line up before the change of management and only got worse.
I don't see staff come to get my drink order any faster than any other bar. In fact CH has been down on waitress numbers lately. That is a very strange comment. Bars offer drink service fairly promptly in all bars. They don't intend you to come in for free.
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Soi Cowboy
Back to Bangkok couple of days back. Ventured into soi cowboy again. This started little early around 8 pm, relatively less crowd. Most of the hot picks were available, which are generally occupied by 9 or 10. First entered spice girls and picked a hot looking girl. Apparently, I was not aware that I picked up a coyote. Off sudden my beer and lady drink costed me 900 bhat. She was hot and nice dance moves. But tipping her was minimum 100 bhat. She was not accepting anything below this. Within 10 minutes she finished her drink and made an excuse to run outside. I think most of the coyotes are for attracting the mongers and not really for longtime entertainment. I asked bar fine for coyote and her reply was "3000 bhat bar fine" and for whole night "8000 bhat". Not ready for negotiation at all.
Finished my beer and they went out to Afterskool. Now between expats I met, everyone has their own opinion about Afterskool. I personally liked it for two main reasons not crowded, and quick fun within the bar. Service of the girls is very good. Had beer and took two girls with lady drinks. One of them could speak impeccable English. She used work at one of the international chain hotels in Bangkok and has recently joined Afterskool. She introduced me to "Naughty boy" corner in Afterskool. At the end of the bar a small sitting area which finally meets the make room and toilet. This area is called as "Naughty boy corner". For 500 bhat you can get HJ or BJ for 1000 bhat right in the bar. I was quite thrilled and went for BJ in the club. It was nearly 9:30 and only one more customer was there. Who gave me thumbs up and went outside. Got my cock out cleaned it with wet wipes and I was getting a HJ and BJ in the open. Two girls came near us kind of like hiding our act, one was facing opposite side and other was facing me and smiling. It was kind of erotic and I was turned on by the whole experience. Never have I done it in public or in front of others. She doing a good job but don't expect it to be like in one on one session, like going on knees or lying down nothing like that. You both seat on the couch and she will bend down to give BJ and HJ simultaneously. Came in 15 minutes and was happy. Cleaned myself and went back to my original place. Offered her another lady drink. Asked her for bar fine but she declined as she doesn't do anything outside the bar. There was one more girl with curly hair who had amazing figure with perfect tits. She came a little late while I was in action. However she was only serving drinks and not participating in any action. All in all, I liked afterskool was there till 10 pm and saw atleast 4 more expats going to naught boy corner. If you want to experience something new then this is a good option. Don't expect very hot girls but service wise it is good.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2093608] Bars offer drink service fairly promptly in all bars. They don't intend you to come in for free.[/QUOTE]Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2093619]Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.[/QUOTE]I just calmly nod no.
Even when they try and grab my arm, I just politely move it away and point anywhere away from them as to where I'm going.
Usually, I'm just going to walk through at first to see if it's worth staying for, or if there's anyone there I'm trying to NOT see, but that isn't in THEIR best interest.
But I always make my own choice as to if I want to sit or not.
The key is just to remain calm and be polite and just firmly let them know that isn't where you want to go.
As I say, pointing toward the stairs and saying "Upstairs" or pointing toward the bathroom and saying "Toilet" (even if neither is your destination) goes a long ways toward them leaving you alone as well.
It's all just a part of the way.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2093619]Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.[/QUOTE]They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.
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[QUOTE=JesseJames;2093640]You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.[/QUOTE]The twenty and fifty notes are the most precious in Thailand. I always keep a lot of them during my trips and use them only for taxis, bars, small restaurants and tip for restaurants or traditional massage girls.
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[QUOTE=SexInStl;2093463]Is there more than normal in this area? In my previous trips here, it seemed they were mainly around the darker inbetween area from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy. Now they're clustered right in front of my hotel and all along Soi 4 and they're very aggressive at times. Clearly look away and they still try and step in front of you and grab your arm. I have yet to see one that I thought was hot and even attractive. Very annoying.[/QUOTE]They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.
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Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina? In my experience everytime I want to penetrate the second girl they stop me and want to change the condom. Even in the mouth the girl wants to use a wet wipe on me before she starts sucking. Please provide name of any place that won't do this.
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The solution is to use female condoms.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2093678]They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2093817]I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. What does consensus say about this? Girls who are really into what they're doing with great attitudes but slightly poor physical shape? Or hot looking face and body who lay there like a dead fish? Of course in a perfect world you'd want the whole package, but who can tell without testing the goods first?
Personally I'd chose slightly bad physique with a good attitude and one who really gets into it. Even if she's faking and putting on a good show.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2093678]They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes, One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison. Of the three African girls I tried (and paid), two were aborted missions because they were so bad in bed for me and only one delivered a decent BBBJ+CIM that we agreed upon. That is no worse a rate of success for me than in some of the most highly touted so-called PSE oilies I read glowing reviews about on these pages. And the African girls I chose were far and away younger with better bodies and sexier faces than most of the Thai girls I have seen in those shops.
I have little doubt that the many "2-Minute Men" who travel to Bangkok and find themselves fighting to hold back their first of 3 hoped for pops in 90 minutes while the lady is merely soaping up her own hands in the shower at some of those shops would have been delighted with what I found worthy of aborting within 15 minutes with those African girls.
Similar to what Goatscrot posted, I see extremely ugly Thai freelancers who still to this day call out and reach out to me as I walk past them. I have never taken them, never seen any other man taking them and yet they have been standing or strolling around the area for years. I have no idea where their money comes from or why they still hang around. But there they are. And now I am seeing the same inexplicable thing happening with the extremely ugly African girls out there.
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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2093744]Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina?[/QUOTE]Yes. I did not have to do that in The Philippines, the USA, Mexico, Hong Kong, Vietnam, etc. because I was involved in threesomes with two girls who did not require me to wear a condom in the first place. Even though this was several years ago for me, I have a hunch the conditions would be the same in, say, the Philippines as it was for me 15-20 years ago at perhaps the height of the heterosexual HIV hysteria-inspired condomania. Thailand was simply indoctrinated about and terrorized into wearing condoms in ways other countries were not and the lingering effects of that have held on longer than other places.