Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Forever18;2492744]I just got a girl that accepts 350 k cop for overnight. Is that a good deal?[/QUOTE]Seriously? You're so hot for an overnight that you're going to do it with a girl you don't know and have never met? Good luck.

You might consider the advice from numerous other people in the thread. Never, never arrange a todo la noche with a girl you haven't seen before and don't know.

When you're asleep in the night are you sure she won't go through your things and maybe steal your cash as leave? Or help herself to your cell phone and other things?

The least important consideration is the money. 300, 350, 400, 500 mil you're talking about roughly $55 dollars between the bottom end and the top end. I personally.

Feel my safety, comfort, peace of mind is worth a heck of a lot more than that.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492792]Just wanted to add, that during negociations this same chica asked me if I would pay for her taxi. I asked where do you live and how much it would be. She told me she lived in Castilla and said it would be 20 k each way. I looked up Castilla in google maps and then sent her a screen shot of a Cabify quote saying it would be less than 9 k for a ride to castilla. I said I would give her 20 k taxi total. She said "Okay, when should I come over?

Keep in mind also that after the session finished I did indeed give her 20 k and also walked her to the metro. This taxi bullshit is just another way to get money out of you. LOL. Generally she was pretty cool and it was a good session. So I wasn't upset or anything. I found it funny more than anything.[/QUOTE]Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2492828]I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons I went the sugar route is how stupidly expensive vacations and TLN were in the sex prison, but there are really only three reasons to do TLN. For me, the most common one is the environment. Everybody focuses on the women but fucking someone in a crowded, uncomfortable strip club or a gym mat or massage table makes for a far less enjoyable experience. Like you said though, two hours in a hotel is probably equivalent to TLN in most cases.

The second is if you really like the woman's company beyond sex. Holding someone you like all night, spooning with them, seeing them first thing in the morning, the morning BJ can be great, but even if the woman is a working girl not a SB, you probably want to reserve this for a woman you have seen before and like. I get that for most guys Colombia is a rush to fuck as much strange as possible. Though the temptation for new is always great, if you have a great session with one gal, you probably are better off doing a repeat or considering a TLN.

The third reason is this is the most rare but what guys are hoping for, the prostitute nympho where you fuck all night. I can recall only a few times in my life this happening. The first requirement is you. Can you fuck all night? I am not even just talking about from a stamina point of view but from a hardness / lack of sleep point of view. The second requirement is a full fledged nympho that wants to fuck all night, and her mind has to be there as well. It is great when the stars align and this happens, but for me, this has been a once in a decade occurrence and in all the cases, it was not planned.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2492941]Really? You bust on this girl for trying to get roughly $6 instead of $3 for taxi? Better to pick your wars. If she's trying to con you into 600 K for a session when 200 K is a good day for her, that's one thing but come on man 3 bucks? Jajaj I have a favorite I sneak in, every other trip when my girl was in class. I would give her 20 K for the taxi and one day I followed her down stairs to give her a tube of VS lotion she forgot and I saw her running down the street to catch the bus. To her the 20 k was more valuable to her than the luxury of a taxi. I never said anything and I totally understand where she was coming from. She's a good kid, we have never even talked about how much or how long before or after, she just is happy with what I give her. Usually 200 + 20 for taxi. And she gives 100% every time I see her. My time with her is so hot she could probably get double from a lot of you guys because she's that good. I'll give her a gift from time to time but I don't change our price structure.[/QUOTE]I respect every single word you said. I have my favorite that is incredible. Drop dead gorgeous, if not for some hideous tattoos she could easily be a top end model, and she is a hellcat in bed. I pay her above the normal rate but unlike comments from others here, she goes way overboard to make sure I have the time of my life.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492951]If you really don't care that much about 3 dollars vs 6 dollars, I got a venmo account for you to send me 6 dollars for all of my girls taxis.[/QUOTE]Why is it always ONLY $3 that you should give away but never ONLY $3 that the girl should forgo? Of the hundreds of chicks that I have talked down on price I have never experienced one of them to be sad or to give bad service because of it. And I have never seen 1 report on this phenomenon either. I have only seen people warn of it. Fair exchange is never a robbery, so why do some take it as the girl being robbed when she agreed to a fair exchange less than her original asking price?

I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!

I did successfully use their atm with a different card.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2492992]I take back what I said about Davivienda if you are using a schwab card. I made 3 attempts to withdraw cash using a Schwab ATM card from 2 separate Davivienda ATM machines. I never recieved any cash from any of these attempts. 1 attempt was blocked by Schwab but the other 2 withdrawal attempts reported "Transaccion con problemas. Intente luego. " and no cash was dispensed. I called schwab today to get my card sorted out and they informed me that the 2 transactions that were not blocked by them actually went through and cash was removed from my account even though I did not receive any cash. So now they are helping me dispute the transactions. There is something definitely wrong with the interaction between schwab and Davivienda at the moment. I recommend that you do not use these ATM's with Schwab cards. Also don't forget to keep your ATM receipts!

I did successfully use their atm with a different card.[/QUOTE]Yeah I tired davienda today for 300 mil and it said problem with the transaction. I hope it doesn't go through, I hate the dispute hassle. Happened twice with banco de cajo too. Bancolombia is my favorite right now. 600 mil and the 18 mil transaction fee doesn't matter because shwab reimburses those.

On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.

But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2493004]On the topic of todo la noche vs todo la leche, I am firmly in the strongly satisfying 1-2 HR session camp. Its frankly better for all concerned. If you are clear in your head this is a puta and you are not mixing matters it makes sense. Safety, extortion, convenience etc are all in your favor with with Cita situation. If I go with TLN at all, it would be after multiple sessions, and if I were doing that, I probably rather do that on a short trip somewhere.

But I am sure there are other views and that is cool too.[/QUOTE]I like TLN's with Chica's I have some history with, and of course they have to be all in. This means no rules nor quotas or schedules. So when I wake up with morning wood at 6 AM there's no pushback. For me, blowing a load after a good nights sleep seems to be more satisfying than any other time of day for me personally.

Maybe another way of looking at this is imagine when your horny and want to blow a load, instead of having to go on the hunt say in El Centro, go to a casa, or schedule a Cita with a Fayboo or Tinder Chica you don't have to go far nor wait. I know other guys can relate to this, where others just want Ratos.

It's all a matter of how you roll and there's no right or wrong as everyone is so different.

Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.

Amen. These girls have a lot of competition! And a lot to model after! I wonder if your Maria Camila Gonzalez is the same as the one I had. Probably not LOL. But based on your description. Could be. I actually told her to meet me in Llares park one night at a bar during Halloween. I was pulled left and right by so many to choose from. When she went to the bar I wasn't there more than 20 minutes before I opted out. Her pictures are good bait but in person she was nothing to look at with so many other chicas everywhere. Now if I see a chica online I like, I question my whole decision. She still hates me to this day as I've seen her out Bunches of times after. We lock eyes and then look away. She's not horrendous but definitely a let down. I paid for our drinks and said I'll contact you after I leave the bars tonight. She must have called 20 times starting at 2 am Through 4 am. Good thing I met her out first because I pulled a solid 9 in my book that night. My guy actually saw her on FB and invited her over. Same stinky box story. Too many coincidences.

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493036]Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2493036]Well I'm about 13 girls deep so far this trip all from Facebook and I've noticed a trend. The girls with the hotter more touched up pictures tend to be uglier. I just had a girl named Maria Camila Gonzalez and she was pretty hot in her pictures, but when she came I saw she was caked in make up, body wasnt nearly as nice. Saggy tits, smelly vagina. Did I still fill her up with my leche? Sure but it wasnt nearly as enjoyable as with other girls. In comparison girls who had normal, natural pictures that didn't paint paint them as some instagram models were much more beautiful. Has happened to me twice now. I think I might avoid the instagram girls.[/QUOTE]Lots of fb girls are like this. There really isn't a fb girl that's higher than an 8 imo.

[QUOTE=Combo;2492765]For you? No, not at all. I suggest a short-time visit (1-2 hours for 150 k-200 k) first to see how she is. If she's good and you get along, then do an overnight. That way if she's lousy, you limit your losses in both time and money.

If you haven't been with this chica before, there's a roughly 50% chance that she looks at her phone at 1 or 2 AM and says there's an emergency and that she has to leave. Which makes it a fantastic deal for her.[/QUOTE]One of my mongering rules across 6 continents is always start with "short time" with a new girl. Never say never, but never commit to overnight or "long time" with a new girl up front until you've spent at least a couple of hours with her. I can't stand most new girls more than an hour or two. If she knocks your socks off, go from one hour, to two hours, then in Colombia after two hours usually comes overnight. Negotiate for all night after two hours and then kick her ass out the door early if you want. Always maintain control and set boundaries. The point is, after two hours you will be able to get all night for the same price she would charge you for the additional hour (s) so don't let her bleed you by the hour. Of course, pay at the end, in case she tries to run out on you.

Ninety percent of the time I get the overnight extension for 100 COP more (100.000) than what I paid up to that point. By the time you have paid the "going rate" for two hours, your girl has earned a week's average salary.

I still tip using my "motivation" rule (see my prior post), and throw in 20 for cab fare. If you want them to stay overnight after two hours, and they won't, don't sweat it or act desperate. Bring her back for the overnight a few days later or if she don't come back, she is probably doing you a favor. Don't ever get upset about not getting a certain girl. If you get upset by that shite, it means you don't have your head on straight for this kind of mongering. There are so many girls to choose from. Move on to the next and forget about the ones that fall short. Also, you will be amazed at the number of chicas who will circle back around for more on their own. Even if you fucked her face against the headboard so hard that her hips came off the bed while her legs were flailing in the air, and she left with tears in her eyes saying she will never see you again, jeje, she will be back for more.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2493055]Now sangnyc, guys who penny pinch about a few dollars are never bitter towards the girls. At least I can speak for myself. I understand I am offering way less so a rejection is expected. My thought process is I am the prize not you. If you want me you accept what I offer. Now I give it to you that sometimes a penny pincher can over do it at times and miss out. But again the attitude I am not paying what is over your worth. Here is the most humorous part. The free spenders similar to elvis, sjobs. Firmly assume that the wealth they proclaim can control these girls and will be at there beckoning. It is these guys that become bitter and call these girls putas. When they discover the wealth meant nothing to these girls as they still rather be with there non income colombian novios LOL.
[/QUOTE]Sangnyc21 may not be talking about you, then you write something that fit his description, using two that some think are fictional characters. They don't give me that kind of impression you described, at least not yet. I remember Elvis also think like you that he is the prize.

Sometimes mongers pay more because they value their own time more so they are paying for their own time, not the girl's time. There is nothing wrong with willing to miss out like yourself and there is nothing wrong for mongers who have the means to overpay something they want.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2492800]What threads are you referring that has reviews of girls performance in Medellin, this is Colombia, and things are different here than you may be used to in other Countries.[/QUOTE]For reviews of the girls in Colombia try the local forum DonColombia With Google translate or get recommendations from friends. In other countries, I definitely would feel uncomfortable with the girl sleeping over unless she had positive reviews. Anybody else know any other COP local forums?