Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2176797]If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.[/QUOTE]So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).

Now let me also tell you there are fake cops down there that shake down gringos walking out of Zandalay and other massage casas. I can't imagine being a retiree down here. You have no defense.

Also these cops and people have an anti-Donald trump / USA lean now and they are just looking for a reason to steal from you or police the reason to mess with you! Guys going to centro are literally risking their lives for some fanny. I know the cheap charlies on a pension will freak out about this, but it is true. Go down there and see for yourself. Anyone who says it is safe has on rose colored glasses and is what we call "a future victim".

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2176667]I will touch on this once and once only. Many of the members of this forum will give you their experience from their ethnicity view point. Thats just the hard down facts. When I became a member of this forum, after reading a few posts, I was cautious as a little old lady walking home from the store in a rough neighborhood. Then I stopped and I thought about it, I've been to Beliz, nicaragua, Honduras, Salvador, Guatamala, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, London, France, Italy, Sierrea Leone West Africa, Brazil, Jamaica, DR, Brussels, Belgium, Germany,. I had not been to Colombia.

I had my reasons, I did not want the hassle of returning to America and being searched for drugs, didn't want to be kidnapped, didn't want a finger cut off, I had heard too much BS and had watched too much television. Reports and rumors had me thinking every kid in Colombia had a AK-47 and megatons of Blow and were ready to kill Americans. My fears were absolutely wrong. Then everyday facts began to kick in.

I am a dark skinned latino, I can pass for African American everyday of the week. I am 5'10, I weigh about 280 lbs. I look like I can handle myself well in a brawl. I was raised in some very hard neighborhood and harsh conditions. So surviving is what I know how to do. Here's the hard down facts, like it or not. No one is running around trying to rob a black man who looks like he can fight.[/QUOTE]5'10 280? Nukka, you the Afro dusty Rhodes up in here. Drop some elbows, put on some polka dot tights and I'll take you out dancing.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2176784]Personally I won't stay anywhere else in Medellin, I love the vibrant busy culture of El Centro, aka La Candelaria in the daytime. At night it gets a little scarier but I either don't go more then 2 blocks to a strip club or I take a cab.

See for yourself, here's a video I took of downtown El Centro street scenes I took in 2017 if you want to look how scary it seems:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTNhn6sFT8E&feature=youtu.be[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link.

I'm not planning on going out much at night and if I do it will be Uber to strip club then straight back, I'll have to think about it carefully.

If I do stay in El Poblado how long will it take to travel to El Centro everyday and how long will it take each way?

Thanks again for anyone who had replied.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2176797]If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.[/QUOTE]El Centro is dangerous for the typical gringo. That's because the typical gringo is oblivious to their surroundings. They believe there's a magic gringo shield that will keep all trouble away from them. They would be equally at risk anywhere in the world, except they seldom walk around anywhere else.

Follow some basic rules and El Centro becomes a lot less dangerous.

1. Leave your jewelry at home. That includes your $300 sunglasses and iPhone X.

2. Colombians are friendly, but they aren't your friends. Almost anyone showing more than casual courtesy sees you as a source of profit. "No, gracias", while you continue walking will get you away from most.

3. Nothing on your phone is that important. If you have to use it, step into a store, or find a couple of police officers to stand near.

4. There's nothing in El Centro you need 3 million pesos for, so don't carry a huge roll of bills. Definitely don't pull it all out for a small purchase.

5. Walk with direction and purpose. Gawking at everything with your mouth open tells everyone you're an easy target. Know where you're going. Be aware of the people around you. If you're paying attention you'll spot most potential problems well before you get to them.

The problem is that the area does not appear to be dangerous in daytime to those who do not pay attention to details.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2176797]If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Love the forum, thanks for everyone who contributes concrete information and earnest opinions.

A quick question, what is the situation like on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday for.

- the Mansion.

- Casas.

Please?

I heard about it's quite slow and dry on these days everywhere?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2176882]Cool video, guys should take note of how people are dressed. Try to pattern the stuff you wear to not stand out too glaringly. Super bright colors, short pants, and tank tops on middle aged guys are some examples you will not see very often on the street. And, yes, most everyone is speaking Spanish.[/QUOTE]Additionally it should be noted that if your walking around El Centro with a plastic bottle of water and to a lesser degree wearing sunglasses this is dead giveaway that you are a foreigner. The locals will not spend 1500 Pesos for a bottle of water.

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2176899]These people are savages and thieves, and if you give them any more credit than this you will be taken advantage of. Don't believe me, go out there and see what happens.[/QUOTE]Jeeez, where you meeting these girls exactly?

I've been in Centro for 4 times in the last year, avg 2. 5 girls per day x 6 days x 4 trips = for about 60 girls and have had the girls be nothing but sweethearts, not even asking for propina or cab money. That's girls from Seeking Arrangements and Vera Cruz and Raudal redlight blocks, and strip clubs Fase II & Luna Lunera & Coneijtas & Maracaibo & Barra Ejectiva and Casa's New Life & Energy & Yakusa.

And the everyone else in Centro has been friendly and helpful. I've had guys in Conejitas buy me shots.

Some old drunk waved a knife at me and Pollo Negro around 1 am on Maracaibo street, we just ignored him and kept walking and chuckled. And 2 young street girls in Botero, one put her hand in my pocket and got nothing.

Sweet girls:

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2176901]So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).[/QUOTE]I don't know what war zone you were in but I didn't have a single RPG fired at me in Centro, no IED's, no incoming rockets either.

And the murderous dirty looks from the bearded goat humping Taliban we had in locked up on the base would make your skin crawl.

I had much more fun in Centro then my time in Kandahar Province.

And places I have been in Wash DC make most of Centro look like Club Med.

There are some sketchy industrial areas north of Botero plaza that I would stay out of, you do have to know where you are and where you are going.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2176989]Thanks for the link.

I'm not planning on going out much at night and if I do it will be Uber to strip club then straight back, I'll have to think about it carefully.

If I do stay in El Poblado how long will it take to travel to El Centro everyday and how long will it take each way?

Thanks again for anyone who had replied.[/QUOTE]About 25 to 30 min by Taxi or Metro subway.

"Medellin safety tips.

Medellin is safe to visit if you handle yourself properly and use common sense. We have a number of safety tips that should greatly reduce your risk of being a victim of crime in the city.

Dress conservatively. Look to see how Colombians dress. If you have on shorts and flip-flops in Medellin you are broadcasting that you are a foreigner.

Stay in groups at night. Don't walk alone at night through unfamiliar areas. Take taxis at night.

Never resist if you are a robbery victim. Most thieves will have a gun or knife and will not hesitate to use them. It's not worth risking your life for a few hundred dollars.

Don't leave your drink unattended. It only takes a second for someone to drop something like Scopolamine in your drink.

Don't flash cellphones, cameras or money. Don't display expensive electronics in public places or wear fancy jewelry.

Don't use ATMs on the street stick to ATMs in malls or grocery stores. And be conscious of who might be around.

Be wary of motorcycles whether in a taxi or walking down the street. Robberies by people on a motorcycle are common. Be especially cautious if you see two men on a motorcycle.

Be particularly careful in El Centro. There have been ongoing security problems in chaotic El Centro, especially at night. Some parts of El Centro are magnets for the homeless, drug addicts and drunks and street crime is common. The highest reported crime rates in the city tend to be in El Centro.

Don't be fooled by El Poblado. It may appear to be safe but the statistics indicate that robberies are increasing in El Poblado, which may be due to thieves targeting tourists and the wealthy area of the city.

Don't partake in activities that are probably illegal in your home country (even if they are legal here). Participating in shady activities increases your likelihood of being a crime victim.

Stay away from the poorest neighborhoods of the city like Popular, Santa Cruz, Manrique and 12 de Octubre. Like any big city, Medellin has several neighborhoods that are more dangerous and are not really places for foreigners.

Don't carry your passport with you everywhere. Lock it up in a safe location and carry a copy with you along with another ID like a driver's license or cedula. Only bring credit cards or ATM cards with you that you plan to use.

Keep a low profile so you don't become a target. Be careful about displaying your money or valuables and don't give out information about where you live or are staying to strangers."

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=HappyButLookin;2176847]If I leave a strip club before the train stops, I walk to St Antonio and jump on the Metro..[/QUOTE]I can understand not walking to the Prado station because that area is sketchy but isn't the Berrio station closer to the Centro strip clubs then the Antonio station? Being right there at the edge of Plaza Botero and all.

Assuming you mean Conejitas and Barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2176667]I walk around Centro at 1 am, 2 am, 3 am, 4 am, I have yet to be robbed or even approached to be asked for money to be robbed, I just have not. No one wants to rob anyone who they think will kill them, they just do not want to take that chance. I am not telling you to not be cautious, I am telling you if you are on the darker skinned side and grew up in a rough environment and look like you can handle yourself, the chances of you having robbery problems in Colombia are slim to none. Those are just the Hard down facts that I have observed on my visits to Medellin. Medelland Colombia is safe as far as I can see. Pollonegro is out!![/QUOTE]Ok, now with all the tough guy talk aside, the truth is, Centro really is a dangerous place at night.

Not like it's a war zone and there are monsters ready to attack, but there is great potential for danger, especially if you're alone.

To say that your chances of being robbed are slim to none is complete bravado and naive.

Pollo has been going to Medellin for about a month now, I've been there for over 20 years now.

Talk to the locals, ask the police, they'll tell you the truth.

All is good till it's not, and it happens quickly, and no one will care if you're a tough guy from the streets of wherever in the US.

Best bet is to take precautions, don't make yourself a target, and don't be naive.

Balboa is out.

Thanks again everyone.

Might book the first few nights in El Poblado and see how I find El Centro when I visit.

I don't drink, I'm streetwise and I'm good shape but obviously I know I'm not bulletproof or stab proof.

Anyone know of any decent pay as you go gyms in El Centro, just want a old fashioned weights gym, none of that high tech cardio rubbish?

It was a slow Sunday and the rain had some down and cleared the avenue of poblado. Decided on this one I was talking with for a bit.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

Her apartment is near del rio parque and in the same building as this other girl I saw. Different apartment though.

She was ready when I got there within 30 min notice. Super cute face, bright white teeth, Hair extensions but JEEZ the ass and tits were spot on.

She had a small tat on her but her skin felt like clouds. I could see marks from all the lipo on her ass and stomach etc. But none the less it was good.

Very light kissing she isn't a huge fan and wanted 40 mil pesos extra for oral naturale. I said yes and she gave a average to more then average BJ. But she really went to town on my balls. Felt really good.

Started with miss then sideways doggy then doggy then her on top. Her puss is tight and hot and very tiny labia. She isn't soo much a robot but also not like loosing herself in the moment either.

Regardless she wasn't too bad. Would I repeat? I'm not sure maybe if no one was around and I Was close and horny. But she won't let you finish on her tits or anything. She is scared of cum.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

140 MIl pr hour + 40 mil for oral naturale.

Thought I would give back after all the info given to me. I stayed in Poblado. My first casa was Loutron. Complete bust I though. Not worth the long taxi ride out there for 300 k. Only saw one girl worth doing but ended up leaving. Went to energy next and every girl was hideous. Got out of there quick. Went home and at night did the tour of strip clubs: la Isla fase dos Luna Lunera and San Diego. Fase dos had the most energy la Isla was boring and stuck up. The other we're worth it on the weekend but dead weekday.

I then went on a tour to see if Centro is as bad as they say at night. Tijuana was Malibu compared to Centro. Taxi drove me by Mayorista and the executive strip club on Friday night. We drove around 5 or 6 streets and I was done. No way I'm walking around that area at night. We then went to Parque Lleras. By this time it was 4 am and there are many working girls to choose from and much safer area. Bite the bullet and spend the 150 k to get a girl at this park. For those asking how you know who are prostitutes and who are regular girls. It's very easy. No worries on that. They will smile at you give you looks and even wave at you.

Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering. The mayorista ejecutive area in the daytime I'm assuming is fairly safe but I didn't go. Stick to the Centro casas in the day and strip clubs at night and then finish off the night at Parque Lleras if your still horny. Loutron and energy were overrated IMHO.

[QUOTE=HansLee3509;2177103]A quick question, what is the situation like on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday for.

- the Mansion.

- Casas.[/QUOTE]One of the cutest funnest girls I met in MED was on a Sunday afternoon at Conejitas strip club so you never know.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2177193]Ok, now with all the tough guy talk aside, the truth is, Centro really is a dangerous place at night. Talk to the locals, ask the police, they'll tell you the truth.[/QUOTE]That means nothing. It is a universal thing for locals around the world to say that their downtown is dangerous at night. Just like one man's junk being another man's treasure, one man's danger zone is another man's comfort zone. Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado. The only place that I have ever stayed in Medellin was downtown (besides staying at a chick's house in La Quinta one night) and I have never had any trouble. That is not to say it is for everyone. My 10 could be your 3.

[QUOTE=Bill;2177255]Too bad there aren't any recent night time walk about videos where the street hookers hang and the cops rarely patrol. Ground Zero.[/QUOTE]A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.

So many conflicting reports, I feel for the newbie trying to figure out the truth from fiction concerning Centro safety.

Imo, it really depends on your street experience, perception and comfort levels.

Centro is very different day and night. Especially in the red light areas around Botero Plaza.

Not talking about the museums and sculpture plaza where day trippers and families see the sights.

Too bad there aren't any recent night time walk about videos where the street hookers hang and the cops rarely patrol. Ground Zero.

Confident guys with self defense training and maybe something in their system will have no problems until a gun is pulled.

In my month visit I witnessed a cop point his gun at an assailant and on another day, saw a knife pulled on a street vendor. Both during daylight hours. As always, ymmv.

Will I return?

Hell yeah, because I'm Bill and I'm an addict. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177252] Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Foreigner Homicides in Medelland in 2016.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the Los Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medelland by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

That's:

1 Bellen.

1 Santo Domingo.

1 Estadio.

1 Miranda.

2 Laureles.

2 Poblado.

1 no location given.

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177252]That means nothing. It is a universal thing for locals around the world to say that their downtown is dangerous at night. Just like one man's junk being another man's treasure, one man's danger zone is another man's comfort zone. Show the stories about something happening to foreigners downtown versus something happening to foreigners in Poblado. The only place that I have ever stayed in Medellin was downtown (besides staying at a chick's house in La Quinta one night) and I have never had any trouble. That is not to say it is for everyone. My 10 could be your 3.

A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.[/QUOTE]Yeah, on second thought, if you showed your Samsung cell that night, and didn't get mugged or killed, it must be all safe.

I take all the danger talk back.

Mr E proved me wrong.

Nice work!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177252]A couple of years ago I posted pictures of downtown at night and some of the drug addicts and was chewed out about it. I just wanted to prove the point that I was downtown late at night with my Samsung Galaxy interacting with the people that are giving everyone else a fright, and nothing fucking happened.[/QUOTE]So you to are implying it's safe for a foreigner to be walking around El Centro late at night when others don't think it would be a good idea.

Well perhaps then next time your in town you can take a video downtown late at night and I hope we all get to see it.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2177222]Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering.[/QUOTE]Why is that? I have had a better time with every 30 k Vera Cruz street girl then I did with the 150 k Energy girl who was horrible.

Everybody has a different budget, not sure why they should quit because of it though. Different strokes for different folks and all.

Just because some people thinks Centro is too dangerous at night doesn't mean everybody does as this thread has proved. And I am not saying it's not, I just don't think it is Fallujah Iraq circa 2004 either.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2177274]So you to are implying it's safe for a foreigner to be walking around El Centro late at night when others don't think it would be a good idea.

Well perhaps then next time your in town you can take a video downtown late at night and I hope we all get to see it.[/QUOTE]I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.

It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2177273]Yeah, on second thought, if you showed your Samsung cell that night, and didn't get mugged or killed, it must be all safe.

I take all the danger talk back.

Mr E proved me wrong.

Nice work![/QUOTE]Me and wolf shot an incredible Hi-def video in Centro, its for my own use, but it is of damn near Hollywood quality! And I didn't get mugged for my equipment!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177320]I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.

It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.[/QUOTE]You have been very lucky as every gringo I know that has stayed in El Centro for at least a week has had problems specifically around the Church area and the north side of the Museum and during daylight hours. Most of them won't go out much at night in that area. Again the area around the Church is not safe and down the street past Avenida de La Grief there is what I would call a drug area that I wouldn't go near period. The typical problems my friends had were guys with knives demanding money, pickpockets, and aggressive trannies.

I am in El Centro a lot and if an obvious foreigner was making a video in the area I described with a nice phone there's a very good chance they would be tackled on the street if there was no police presence.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2177312]Why is that? I have had a better time with every 30 k Vera Cruz street girl then I did with the 150 k Energy girl who was horrible..[/QUOTE]Right on I don't even waste my time with the Strip Clubs or the Casas. I have a stable of Street girls that are solid performers!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2177261]Foreigner Homicides in Medelland in 2016.

On June 4, Mexican national Jess Estrada de La Rosa, aged 48, was shot dead in Beland when he reportedly tried to prevent the theft of a motorcycle in the Los Alpes barrio.

June 15, Israeli Shay Azran, aged 37, was killed with a firearm near the Exito in Laureles. He was allegedly involved in drug and sex tourism according to news reports.

June 16, Danish Tomas Willemoes, aged 41, was shot to the head in Provenza near Parque Lleras in El Poblado at about 9:30 pm. News reports claim this was a murder for hire so it may have involved shady activities.

September 29, the body of Australian Anthony Hasselback, aged 49, who was living in El Poblado was found along a road with two shots to the head in the municipality of Santo Domingo in Northeastern Antioquia. News reports claim he was involved in sex tourism.

November 19, Ryo Izaki, a 22-year-old Japanese man was shot dead in Estadio on a Saturday at about 4 pm after chasing a pair of suspects who had allegedly taken his mobile phone and tablet.

December 3, a Venezuelan member of the LBGT community was murdered who reportedly had sentimental problems.

In December, the body of a 23-year-old Dutch man was found in Laureles. News reports indicate that on December 10 this backpacker had a discussion with a woman and was shot.

December 14, American Jigar Patel from Illinois was attacked by a knife and killed in the barrio Miranda north of Medelland by two assailants.

On December 16, a body of a man from Dominica was found buried in a wooded area of the Santa Elena district. He was reportedly kidnapped from a shopping mall in El Poblado in October. News reports indicate this homicide was related to the collection of money by drug trafficking networks.

That's:

1 Bellen.

1 Santo Domingo.

1 Estadio.

1 Miranda.

2 Laureles.

2 Poblado.

1 no location given.

[URL]https://medellinliving.com/2017-security-in-medellin/[/URL][/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2177325]Me and wolf shot an incredible Hi-def video in Centro, its for my own use, but it is of damn near Hollywood quality! And I didn't get mugged for my equipment![/QUOTE]



Again, excellent proof that I was wrong.

Centro is definitely one of the safer areas of Medellin.

Between your evidence and MrE and Pollo’s real life tests, we have all the proof we need.

Balboa out!

Well Mr. Enter national may mean well he's obviously not experienced about late night El Central. I lived there for a month and a half last year and even as big strong dude as my self was threatened many times, I do not recommend letting your gaurd down there. The poor Colombian even only armed with a small 22 can still pose a legitimate threat to the baddest of gringos. Men proceed with caution in this seedy area or face an uncertainty you may not want.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2177354]Again, excellent proof that I was wrong.

Centro is definitely one of the safer areas of Medellin.

Between your evidence and MrE and Pollos real life tests, we have all the proof we need.

Balboa out![/QUOTE]I just posted some facts with no commentary at all. And those facts showed 4 foreigners killed in Poblado & Laurales and none in Centro in 2016. Does that prove Centro is safe, no but it does show Poblado & Laurales can be dangerous also.

I wish to advise all visitors to Medellin to ignore all reports here by those 'brave' mongers who speak about taking videos in El Centro at night. Are you certain that they really did that? It is a dangerous practice for 2 reasons. One, people have been killed in El Centro for their cell phones. Two, there are some shady characters who, for whatever reason, do not want their images recorded. It is a very dangerous practice. Will these brave mongers be there to help you when you find yourself in a dangerous situation?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2177349]You have been very lucky as every gringo I know that has stayed in El Centro for at least a week has had problems specifically around the Church area and the north side of the Museum and during daylight hours. Most of them won't go out much at night in that area. Again the area around the Church is not safe and down the street past Avenida de La Grief there is what I would call a drug area that I wouldn't go near period. The typical problems my friends had were guys with knives demanding money, pickpockets, and aggressive trannies.

I am in El Centro a lot and if an obvious foreigner was making a video in the area I described with a nice phone there's a very good chance they would be tackled on the street if there was no police presence.[/QUOTE]Excuse me Surfer, you have obviously not seen the proof already posted on the relative safety of el Centro.

Your gringo friends must have been very unlucky.

I’m being silly because the el Centro at night safety debate is ridiculous.
Of course all the ex Navy Seals, Army Rangers, Bronx tough guys, etc, have had no problems.
And they didn’t kill MrE that night for his cell phone, so it must be safe right.

For new guys; use common sense, take precautions, think that it’s dangerous, and you’ll be better off.

[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2176901]So true. I went down there with an English dude that was former SAS and me former MMA competitor also with weapons training, both in shape and not the first targets you'd pick if you were a bad guy. We were there at 3 pm in the afternoon, and I'll tell you it was sketchy AF. Can't imagine what it would be. (this coming from two guys that were in war zones).

Now let me also tell you there are fake cops down there that shake down gringos walking out of Zandalay and other massage casas. I can't imagine being a retiree down here. You have no defense.

Also these cops and people have an anti-Donald trump / USA lean now and they are just looking for a reason to steal from you or police the reason to mess with you! Guys going to centro are literally risking their lives for some fanny. I know the cheap charlies on a pension will freak out about this, but it is true. Go down there and see for yourself. Anyone who says it is safe has on rose colored glasses and is what we call "a future victim".[/QUOTE]I must have been doing it wrong. From late October 2017 to the end of March, I made between 60 and 100 trips to El Centro. I never took a taxi, mostly relying on the Metro, with an occasional bus ride. Twice I walked there from Laureles. About 90% of the time I walked alone. My walks covered from the Alpujarra metro station up to Prado. East of the Metro I covered most of the streets up to about Carrera 35. West of the Metro I went as far as Carrera 57. Call it about 250 miles of walking in El Centro over about 120 hours. The latest I was walking El Centro was about 10:30 pm.

Except for one botched pick pocket attempt I experienced no threats. There was one streetwalker who got a little grabby with a guy I was walking with and later the same night I saw 2 young guys beat up an old Colombian and take a phone from him.

Although I never made use of the streetwalkers, I walked those streets many times. I preferred the casas and my Facebook contacts. Not one of the women tried to extort me or threatened to call the police, and not one tried to raise the price. A few wanted to stay longer and a few did, but none asked for more money. More than one came over and just hung out on an evening when I didn't want anything. All I paid was their taxi (although 2 took the Metro, so cost me nothing).

I know people personally who were robbed in El Centro. When I asked what happened the response was "I wasn't paying attention."

If all the girls are trying to extort you, then you must be doing something wrong. Almost every girl I was with over the 353 consecutive days I was in Colombia (5 of those days in Bogota, the rest in Medellin) either wanted to see me again, or wanted to see me again and wanted to bring a friend. Almost every time I ran into a girl I'd been with before, at least one of the friends she was with would give me a number and ask when we could get together.

I'm not a former MMA fighter, never really been in a fight. Always seemed a silly pursuit to me. While I have my share of military experience, I never was anywhere near to combat, except for watching a few bar fights. However, I always felt right at home in El Centro. I visited the restaurants and bars, and saw the sights, whenever I had the opportunity.

The people are not savages. Most of them are fine and friendly people. If your opinion is that they are savages I seriously doubt that you've ever been within 1000 miles of Medellin.

Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it? I don't look like a victim at all and was never messed with even in some of the hoods of the Dominican where people said it wouldn't be safe for my white gringo ass. That said I also don't see the point in being dumb for no reason. I will be there in 2 days and have some normal girls lined up for dates as well as some semi pro and pros but would like to sample the street scene also.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177320]I did make a video, but I took snapshots out of that to post on here. All I am saying is that neither I nor anyone I know has ever had any problems downtown no matter what time. Took my young cousin and his best friend down once. We all came back in about 2 am. The next day him and his friend said they walked back down to Degrieff about 3:30 am. They were not scared and did not encounter any problems.

It has always been safe for me. Whether it will be safe for you is for you to judge. We have seen news of the foreigners getting robbed and killed in Poblado. Is it safe there? We have seen none of this about downtown, yet downtown is deemed to be unsafe.[/QUOTE]Of course, it's extremely safe, el Poblado is definitely much more dangerous.

Your cousins not being afraid there is even more proof.

Excellent work!

Ok some guys like Centro others do not. One thing I have learned in my long life is it is silly to try, and change other peoples opinions.

Lets get on to the trip reports.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2177405]Ok some guys like Centro others do not. One thing I have learned in my long life is it is silly to try, and change other peoples opinions.

Lets get on to the trip reports.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you the heart of the problem then others can pick up the ball and do what they wish with it. Most people posting on this thread have not set foot in Medellin in several years if ever at all. And yes there are guys that are that big a losers, who spend their lives in front of their computer screens, recycling info that they read off the same threads. That's why we get all the clutter from armchair philosophers. They do not even vacation in Medellin Hello?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2177363]I wish to advise all visitors to Medellin to ignore all reports here by those 'brave' mongers who speak about taking videos in El Centro at night. Are you certain that they really did that? It is a dangerous practice for 2 reasons. One, people have been killed in El Centro for their cell phones. Two, there are some shady characters who, for whatever reason, do not want their images recorded. It is a very dangerous practice. Will these brave mongers be there to help you when you find yourself in a dangerous situation?[/QUOTE]I violently second all that you write here. Both reasons are enough to cause extreme danger.

I have utmost respect for MrE, and I am used to be on his same wavelength, but in this case he really wrote something extremely dangerous to all those who are naive enough and do not know what is a street in a SouthAmerican city as Medellin.

Mr. E, how would you feel if some idiot takes your words literally and dives without precautions in that environment? Think twice: the readers of this ISG are by a small percentage experienced people, while the vast majority is rather vulnerable.

From the number of reports that I have read in the last 1-2 years, about people going around at night in Medelllin like if they were on La Promenade des Anglais at Nice, I understood that the overall security in Medellin has dramatically improved. I personally witnessed robs and violent acts in front of me, while walking around under the metro of Prado at night more than 5 years ago. I have seen two guys attacking from the back a lonely man, taking everything from his pockets and backpack. I have seen a group of 10+ teenagers jumping on another lonely man to rob everything. I have seen a teenager hit to blood by someone who he tried to rob. I have been attacked twice with a small knife.

Maybe now all such acts are less common. Yet, it happens that people is killed for a cell phone. Life has little value for some people surviving in those barrios. I strongly advise everyone to be extremely considerate.

Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?

[QUOTE=Newbie911;2173392]I was going to stay at the Blux but when I messaged the owners of the airbnbs about guest they made it a point to say sex workers. I told them it would be friends not prepaids but they are woman and I didn't get answers that I had faith in that it wouldn't be an issue if there would be a few different ones so I booked somewhere else. Just didn't want to take the risk

,[/QUOTE]This was my exact experience when I was direct with my questions to unit owners. Some were direct with no ambiguity, while others were more vague. The vague responses were the ones that concerned me because I did not want to lock-in on a place where guests would be turned away. And while this does NOT mean female guests are not allowed, a lack of tolerance toward them is a trend that I had not experienced in my 6+ years of staying there. As I said in my original post, I am doubtful there is a building rule due to the rental property owner ratio, but more owners explicitly state that kind of activity is not welcome. Seems to mirror the tolerance seen all over Poblado, especially in Parque Lleras. So is this a real change from the past? I do not know. Is it an attempt to deflect attention? Possibly. There are a good number of owner occupied units that exist in the in building, and perhaps they are growing tired and exercising their rights!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2177564]Mr. E, how would you feel if some idiot takes your words literally and dives without precautions in that environment?[/QUOTE]My words were literal, but I never said to walk around with your head in the clouds. I would advise someone to be vigilant even if walking through Beverly Hills.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2177222]Thought I would give back after all the info given to me. I stayed in Poblado. My first casa was Loutron. Complete bust I though. Not worth the long taxi ride out there for 300 k. Only saw one girl worth doing but ended up leaving. Went to energy next and every girl was hideous. Got out of there quick. Went home and at night did the tour of strip clubs: la Isla fase dos Luna Lunera and San Diego. Fase dos had the most energy la Isla was boring and stuck up. The other we're worth it on the weekend but dead weekday.

I then went on a tour to see if Centro is as bad as they say at night. Tijuana was Malibu compared to Centro. Taxi drove me by Mayorista and the executive strip club on Friday night. We drove around 5 or 6 streets and I was done. No way I'm walking around that area at night. We then went to Parque Lleras. By this time it was 4 am and there are many working girls to choose from and much safer area. Bite the bullet and spend the 150 k to get a girl at this park. For those asking how you know who are prostitutes and who are regular girls. It's very easy. No worries on that. They will smile at you give you looks and even wave at you.

Bottom line is if you can't afford 150 k at night for a girl and think that's expensive you should quit mongering. The mayorista ejecutive area in the daytime I'm assuming is fairly safe but I didn't go. Stick to the Centro casas in the day and strip clubs at night and then finish off the night at Parque Lleras if your still horny. Loutron and energy were overrated IMHO.[/QUOTE]I think right now we hit a slow week between the holiday last week and finals for school coming up, these chicks are resting up.

Soon enough girls will be back at it again I'm sure.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2177622]This was my exact experience when I was direct with my questions to unit owners. Some were direct with no ambiguity, while others were more vague...a lack of tolerance toward them is a trend that I had not experienced in my 6+ years of staying there...more owners explicitly state that kind of activity is not welcome. Seems to mirror the tolerance seen all over Poblado, especially in Parque Lleras. So is this a real change from the past?...[/QUOTE]I have been staying at Blux as well every time I was in Medellin, for the past 3 years. I also noticed the trend, trying to discourage sex tourism, via various posters. I was just there recently, and they had a poster warning about sex tourism, on the unit refrigerator, can't miss it.

Many girls have told me that full time residents do not like that activity at all, and are trying to get rid of it. They have a lady door guard there now, who appears mean and give girls a hard time, but the others are nice. I was wondering whether that was another tactic employed by management to discourage unwanted visitors.

Hi guys,

About to take my first trip to Medellíand. Still working my way through the last 100 pages of posts, so apologies if this has been answered already.

Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?

Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?

Thanks.

1 SB.

[QUOTE=SexBomb123;2177684]Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?

Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?[/QUOTE]Sometimes you can. Sometimes you can't. But if you do then you will have to pay a fee. Don't know how you could use an extra room since the place is always booked up. Why even go to the mansion? It is just a hotel with a few chicks hanging around. There are plenty of casas and strip clubs to go to with tons of cheaper chicks hanging around.

170K for a room + 200K for a chick at the mansion = 371K. Downtown casa = 35K. Strip club = 80K. Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177696]Sometimes you can. Sometimes you can't. But if you do then you will have to pay a fee. Don't know how you could use an extra room since the place is always booked up. Why even go to the mansion? It is just a hotel with a few chicks hanging around. There are plenty of casas and strip clubs to go to with tons of cheaper chicks hanging around. 170K for a room + 200K for a chick at the mansion = 371K. Downtown casa = 35K. Strip club = 80K. Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'the just read so much about it here I wanted to check it out. Obviously I will be using all of the other methods you've mentioned to meet the chicks, I was intrigued by the concept but prefer to stay at an AirBnb in Poblado.

I couldn't guess whether I'm especially lucky, careful, or don't look gringo enough. I haven't had problems going back years. I've seen many robberies and robbery attempts. Most of them of course involved Colombian victims and perpetrators because most of the people. Especially in Centro. Are Colombian. I don't take safety for granted. I keep my eyes open and I don't tempt fate by displaying valuables or hanging around isolated areas after dark and alone. It's foolish to expect complete safety in a marginal neighborhood like Centro. I don't want to see anyone get jacked but I also don't want to scare anyone from visiting.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2177368]I must have been doing it wrong. From late October 2017 to the end of March, I made between 60 and 100 trips to El Centro. I never took a taxi, mostly relying on the Metro, with an occasional bus ride. Twice I walked there from Laureles. About 90% of the time I walked alone. My walks covered from the Alpujarra metro station up to Prado. East of the Metro I covered most of the streets up to about Carrera 35. West of the Metro I went as far as Carrera 57. Call it about 250 miles of walking in El Centro over about 120 hours. The latest I was walking El Centro was about 10:30 pm.

Except for one botched pick pocket attempt I experienced no threats. There was one streetwalker who got a little grabby with a guy I was walking with and later the same night I saw 2 young guys beat up an old Colombian and take a phone from him.

Although I never made use of the streetwalkers, I walked those streets many times. I preferred the casas and my Facebook contacts. Not one of the women tried to extort me or threatened to call the police, and not one tried to raise the price. A few wanted to stay longer and a few did, but none asked for more money. More than one came over and just hung out on an evening when I didn't want anything. All I paid was their taxi (although 2 took the Metro, so cost me nothing)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;2177600]Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?[/QUOTE]In my opinion which differs perhaps than some of the other members a definitive yes. However in Tijuana the cops in Cahuilla around Constitution Ave like to shake down the gringos by trying to intimidate them. That's one big difference than here in Medellin. Another big difference is English is widely spoken in Tijuana.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2177706]I couldn't guess whether I'm especially lucky, careful, or don't look gringo enough. I haven't had problems going back years. I've seen many robberies and robbery attempts. Most of them of course involved Colombian victims and perpetrators because most of the people. Especially in Centro. Are Colombian. I don't take safety for granted. I keep my eyes open and I don't tempt fate by displaying valuables or hanging around isolated areas after dark and alone. It's foolish to expect complete safety in a marginal neighborhood like Centro. I don't want to see anyone get jacked but I also don't want to scare anyone from visiting.[/QUOTE]That's the proper attitude. I don't encourage people to walk around El Centro. However, I took several people for a tour if they wanted to see for themselves. I had the benefit of having someone take me around Centro the first time I decided to walk it, instead of just taking a taxi in and out.

Is it safe? Nowhere is safe. Where you are, with a few exceptions, matters a lot less than how you act.

[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;2177600]Is centro more dangerous during the day than say Tijuana?[/QUOTE]Tijuana overall has a much higher homicide rate, with 1,744 murdered out of a population of 1.7 million in 2017, Med had 534 killed with over 2.5 million. (pop. Estimates vary as the last census was in 2005). But most of those will be gang members killing members of other gangs, not tourists.

[QUOTE=Newbie911;2177371]Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it?.[/QUOTE]I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.

Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.

On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.

Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.

[QUOTE=Newbie911;2177371]Alright as a first time timer going to Medellin and curious about the street scene in centro what is the safest way to check it out? Is there a map of it anywhere or details on the streets to go to and from where to access it?[/QUOTE]My redlight map #2-ignore the redlight zone around Parque Bolivar, mostly not women.

[QUOTE=SexBomb123;2177684]Hi guys,

About to take my first trip to Medelland. Still working my way through the last 100 pages of posts, so apologies if this has been answered already.

Can people go to the Mansion as guests that aren't paying to stay there? Is there a cost to get in? Is there a bar just to go and hang? I saw there is M1 and M2, are they 2 very separate buildings?

Do you have to pay a fee to use a room there with a chica or do you then have to take her to your apartment, etc?

Thanks.

1 SB.[/QUOTE]Occasionally, they allow people not staying there to enter. There is an entry fee. Someone posted that the fee is 50 mil, but I think it depends on how the management feels that day. If they allow you to enter, you can only go to the bar. No problem just hanging.

M1 and M2 are separate buildings. The bar is in M1. M2 is up the hill from M1. If you don't have a room, you are not allowed in M2. If you have a room, you are allowed in both buildings.

There are no short-term rooms. You must take the lady somewhere else.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2177644]I have been staying at Blux as well every time I was in Medellin, for the past 3 years. I also noticed the trend, trying to discourage sex tourism, via various posters. I was just there recently, and they had a poster warning about sex tourism, on the unit refrigerator, can't miss it.

Many girls have told me that full time residents do not like that activity at all, and are trying to get rid of it. They have a lady door guard there now, who appears mean and give girls a hard time, but the others are nice. I was wondering whether that was another tactic employed by management to discourage unwanted visitors.[/QUOTE]I think this could be very well the tactic being employed. Given the rental ownership ratio, it is still considered a legal short-term rental unit. But not sure the ones who live there full-time are not allowed to make it difficult to restrict access of those they deem undesirables. After all, they have rights too!

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2178050]I think this could be very well the tactic being employed. Given the rental ownership ratio, it is still considered a legal short-term rental unit. But not sure the ones who live there full-time are not allowed to make it difficult to restrict access of those they deem undesirables. After all, they have rights too![/QUOTE]Times are changing but the weird part is the increase in violence lately. The security right now might be for chicas but just look. A building in Laurles that rents to foreigners was shot up last month!

Imagine being security for that shit!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-lo-persiguieron-hasta-el-interior-de-un-edificio-para-asesinarlo/601857/[/URL]

Thanks to everyone who commented on the safety of El Centro.

Sorry if I caused arguments.

Say I did stay in El Poblado near the Santa Fe mall for example, how much is a taxi to and from the casa's in El Centro going to cost me? Read online is should be around 10 dollar's each way, that will soon add up.

Is it possible to use public transport without being fluent?

Sorry for all the questions.

Gents,

I echo those who advise both caution and encouragement re: Medellin. You should feel encouraged to visit. But you should always be cautious as a foreigner. Especially in a place like Medellin with evolving political / social norms. Your goal should be to go under-the-radar wherever you are. That means: dressing modestly and in-line w / the locals (save the flashy, trendy designer clothes for Miami or NYC) - don't go out wearing Prada sunglasses, blinged out watches, and snap-chatting on an iPhone X in el centro. Regardless of what time it is (but if you do this at night. You're tempting fate).

A lot of people get in trouble for not exercising common sense: they get a little too confident which leads to arrogance and start having el jefe fantasies where they feel like they are untouchable. You're very touchable, and just one wrong move from getting into a predicament where you bite off more than you can chew. You should also know that it's distasteful to overtly gawk and approach younger local women if you're an older gringo. It's frowned upon by the locals and you're putting a target on your back. Unless you're a veteran and have years under your belt in Medellin. Keep it simple: Be tasteful, be discreet, respect the local culture, stay low-key and abide by the local laws, always.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2178178]Thanks to everyone who commented on the safety of El Centro.

Sorry if I caused arguments.

Say I did stay in El Poblado near the Santa Fe mall for example, how much is a taxi to and from the casa's in El Centro going to cost me? Read online is should be around 10 dollar's each way, that will soon add up.

Is it possible to use public transport without being fluent?

Sorry for all the questions.[/QUOTE]A taxi from Santa Fe to downtown is about 10, but not 10 dollars. It's 10 mil COP, which is less than $3. 50.

You don't need to know any Spanish to use the Metro. From Santa Fe, you can walk to the Aguacatala station during the day. The Metro tickets are less than 3 mil. Go to the ticket booth and tell the agent "dos", or hold up two fingers. Give them 10 mil and they will give you a card that looks similar to a credit card, and your change from the 10 mil. Go to the turnstile and hold your card in front of the reader, then go through the turnstile. If you only have one trip left on your card, you must put it in a slot reader instead of holding it in front of the reader. Once through the turnstile, you have two choices, Niquia or La Estrella. You want to go towards Niquia. Get off at the Parque Berrio stop. When returning to Santa Fe, go towards La Estrella. Using the buses is a little more difficult because you must figure out what bus to get on. If you can find the correct bus, then get on and pay the driver. I think the fare on most routes now is 2100 COP. There is an oval sticker on the windshield listing the fare.

Damn, so I been having a bad streek and ususally its never this many in a row.

I guess I'm down cause my real novia and I ended it. SHe wanted it more then me but she is depressive and suicidial so many its for the best.

Anyway, I been trying to lock down this one chica I saw in an add for a week. She is located in Laurlres. Fianlly she responds and gives me the addy.

I get there, she is a smoke stack! About 5 5, super flacka but with nice bolt on tits that aren't too big but she has really really nice nipples. The type that are a bit long but not freeksly. She has a booty to that is real. If I had to describe her I would say she is like a slightly darker version of the Pornstar Shy Love. She is super playful, speaks a lilttle bit of english but is cool. She starts getting into me. Very very light kissing. But its cool. She does oral naturale for a propina. Its realy nice. Perfect ball play. I really enjoyed it. Rubber goes on, she gets ontop. Tight, and hot. I have to get to her slow down so I don't pop too song. I get on top next and I really love the grip of her tits. They are like a bit seperated but smaller then the average implant but still I love to grip on her nipples and fuck her. We do doggy she puts it back into me and then I flip her for sideways doggy. This is where the real fun happeneds. I start to rub on her clit a little and she laughs and giggles. In spanish she is telling me its her job and not important for her to cum. I play more but she doesn't cum but its still fun. I ask her where she wants my cum and before I can finish my scentence she says "tetas?" Perfecta. She rubs really nice and slow and I shoot an 8 ropper of custard. She laughs at how much there is. I get her personal whatsapp and name. She is going to come over later this week and ill cook and fuck her todo la noche for a small price.

Have fun guys!

First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.

Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2178113]Times are changing but the weird part is the increase in violence lately. The security right now might be for chicas but just look. A building in Laurles that rents to foreigners was shot up last month!

Imagine being security for that shit!

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/fotos-lo-persiguieron-hasta-el-interior-de-un-edificio-para-asesinarlo/601857/[/URL][/QUOTE]I had considered renting in that building last December. Yikes.

Thank you, very helpful.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2177779]I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.

Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.

On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.

Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2178262]First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.

Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?[/QUOTE]If you mean one in the areas on my map, they take you close to a short term hotel upstairs, all the ones I have been in were nice enough. Not sure how it would work with out some Spanish. I suppose you could write down numbers or use google translate but you will look like a fish out of water. With no Spanish I would stick to the casa's and strip clubs, that would be safer, a gringo with no Spanish on the street scream's "Papaya" (fruit to be plucked in Colombian slang).

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2178262]First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.

Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?[/QUOTE]Or try to hook up with a gringo that speaks Spanish and knows the scene, if you post in "travel announcements" maybe somebody will be in town that can help.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2178262]First day in Medellin. I'll write a report later. How does it work with street hookers in centro? I saw a really hot one but I chicked out.

Is it possible to make it happen if you don't speak Spanish? Where would I take her? Or do they know where to go?[/QUOTE]"quanto questa?" means how much. Most quoted 20 k and 30 k and included the room upstairs. On avg. Paid 20 k plus room at 5 k and 10 k. 30 min. Naked, pay after.

No spanish? Wish you luck.

Chickened out? You sound like an incident waiting to happen!

Went to New Life today. I was very disappointed. I thought I would find 8's and 9's. I found 5's and 6's.

[QUOTE=Bill;2178400]"quanto questa?" means how much. Most quoted 20 k and 30 k and included the room upstairs. On avg. Paid 20 k plus room at 5 k and 10 k. 30 min. Naked, pay after.

No spanish? Wish you luck.

Chickened out? You sound like an incident waiting to happen![/QUOTE]Looks like you could use a little luck yourself. It seems you are mixing Portuguese and god knows what. Portuguese: quanto custa. Spanish: cuanto cuesta.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2178298]If you mean one in the areas on my map, they take you close to a short term hotel upstairs, all the ones I have been in were nice enough. Not sure how it would work with out some Spanish. I suppose you could write down numbers or use google translate but you will look like a fish out of water. With no Spanish I would stick to the casa's and strip clubs, that would be safer, a gringo with no Spanish on the street scream's "Papaya" (fruit to be plucked in Colombian slang).[/QUOTE]This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene. Perhaps this guy could carry some flash cards with translations of what he wanted such as sexo oral sin condom.

I actually saw a guy with flash cards who didn't speak any Spanish in Tijuana once and it appeared to be quite effective for him but of course El Centro is very different indeed.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2178488]This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene.[/QUOTE]It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178525]It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.[/QUOTE]A universal language indeed but your comparing apples to oranges in that El Centro in my opinion is far more dangerous than the red light districts I visited in Saigon. And as your aware besides French more English is spoken in Vietnam than in Colombia.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178525]It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.[/QUOTE]Again, a man among men.
There is no danger anywhere pussy is involved, Lol.

If he can do it, we all can, Lol.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178525]It is not that hard. I did it in Vietnam (at night in an area that most here would be petrified to go to - and of course I was not "blending in") and I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. Pussy and money are universal languages.[/QUOTE]Amen Mr. E. I am with you on that one. I have done the same thing in Ho Chi Minh City just last year and yes, I wasn't in the best area of town either. I can say the same for every country I go to.

I understand what very disappointed means. This bears repeating even though it's been covered many times here and elsewhere- 5, 6, 1, 8 etc. Mean different things to different people.

To be constructive, I can tell you that you will find all the girls at Fase II and Energy / Tantra / LunaLunera better dressed and some of them better looking than what you found at New Life. Let us know how you like those options.

[QUOTE=DorianGray2020;2178407]Went to New Life today. I was very disappointed. I thought I would find 8's and 9's. I found 5's and 6's.[/QUOTE]

In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out!

Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2178709]Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. [/QUOTE]Great pics! And congratulations on not getting robbed like most do. But that is not a church. That is the palacio. I stay at the hotel right on the side of it. I was taking a taxi back one day and told him the church. He dropped me off in front of a church down the street. I told the next taxi driver the same thing and he didn't know what church I was talking about. I showed him a picture of it and told me it was the Palacio.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178739] But that is not a church. That is the palacio. I stay at the hotel right on the side of it. I was taking a taxi back one day and told him the church. He dropped me off in front of a church down the street. I told the next taxi driver the same thing and he didn't know what church I was talking about. I showed him a picture of it and told me it was the Palacio.[/QUOTE]It's the Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace of Culture, built in 1925 with a Belgian architect.

"The Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace was originally the official building for the Government of Antioquia, and was known as "Calibo Palace". It was under construction from the 1925 to 1937 and designed by Belgian architect Agustand Goovaerts in a Gothic Revival style."

It's free to go in by the way and has some good photo ops for any cuties you have with you.

Pollo, say Hi to Stewie for me!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2178556]A universal language indeed but your comparing apples to oranges in that El Centro in my opinion is far more dangerous than the red light districts I visited in Saigon. And as your aware besides French more English is spoken in Vietnam than in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about HCMC. I was talking about Pham Van Dong in Hanoi where I had to go inside of an abandoned building with a chick! [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1395740&viewfull=1#post1395740[/URL].

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2178709]In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out![/QUOTE]Are they paying to fuck you? Jajaja.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2178725]Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]When exactly will you be traveling? If it isn't for a few weeks, pick up a copy of Lonely Planet Colombia. That book does an excellent job detailing most cities in Colombia and how to reach them. When I was in Medellin in November 2015, the busses to Guatape and Sante Fe de Antioquia left Medellin from the Terminal del Norte bus station, while the busses to Jardin left from the Terminal del Sur bus station.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2178709]In Medellin right now, been here since Tuesday, I leave Saturday. I have had 3-4 girls a day. Plus I have had my girlfriend with me on every session. I guess I'm just pushing my luck? Well I took these nice pics in front of the church, in centro, with my new Galaxy S9 and no one robbed me? My girlfriend is in the pic of the church, Go figure? I have no idea which Medellin or which Centro you all are visiting, but I been banging chics since I landed. Hey Wolf, Our friend is still at the Hotel we spoke for a while. I guess the sharks can smell prey and also the killer whales when they are out and about. I have pics and numbers for anyone interested in the honeys I saw since landing Tuesday! I have nothing but love for Medellin! Pollonegro is out![/QUOTE]Do you know the name of the Church you took all these photos at? The photo of the building you took doesn't resemble any of the churches I've seen in Medellin. It also appears very blurry on my I phone for some reason.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178748]I wasn't talking about HCMC. I was talking about Pham Van Dong in Hanoi where I had to go inside of an abandoned building with a chick! [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1395740&viewfull=1#post1395740[/URL].[/QUOTE]Wow nice detailed post sounds similar to a place I visited in New Delhi.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2178488]This is good advice as I cannot imagine how someone with no Spanish skills could successfully navigate the El Centro Street scene. Perhaps this guy could carry some flash cards with translations of what he wanted such as sexo oral sin condom.

I actually saw a guy with flash cards who didn't speak any Spanish in Tijuana once and it appeared to be quite effective for him but of course El Centro is very different indeed.[/QUOTE]I've managed to hook up with about 200 women who spoke virtually no English and I didn't speak their language. Most of them were Argentinian. I have never done the street scene. I do lots of homework (here and local foros). I know exactly where I am going, when going to privados (apartments) and what to expect, even when it's the first time there. At the clubs, I can use enough pigeon-Spanish to negotiate a deal. I learn the phrases for what I want. I don't use the websites to order room service, unless it is a specific, well-reviewed chica. I did that (order room service because of hot pictures on a pita website) once, and it was my one and only dismal failure in 15+ years. I have been introduced to a bunch of chicas by senior members of this forum (and Argentina Private) and they have all been very good. I have gone to a few clubs with senior, local members (all fluent) and that can help, too.

I am pretty good about blending in. I don't wear any outwardly branded American clothing and nothing flashy. I've walked the streets of cities all over the world at all times of day and night, almost always by myself. However, if the location is a little dodgy, I will look for groups of other people who are going in my direction (or towards a more populated area) and I will stay sort of close to them, without giving them the impression that I am following them.

[QUOTE=WildWalleye;2178919]..........I am pretty good about blending in. I don't wear any outwardly branded American clothing and nothing flashy. I've walked the streets of cities all over the world at all times of day and night, almost always by myself. However, if the location is a little dodgy, I will look for groups of other people who are going in my direction (or towards a more populated area) and I will stay sort of close to them, without giving them the impression that I am following them.[/QUOTE]If you don't wear outwardly branded American clothing and flashy items its going to be difficult to pick up non pros.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2177779]I have one posted in the MED Hotel thread attached to my review of the hotel Botero, but the website reduces the size, if it is hard to read, PM me a email and I will send you the full size one. Here it is again.

Safest hours are between 10 a and 4 p, later it gets the more drunk locals you get.

On my map the top left block is Raudal, less girls but usually hotter ones, 50-80 k, lower left is the block behind the VeraCruz church, it is the busiest one, girls start at 30 k and will be very close to a short term hotel they will take you too. If they look young make sure you card them, the young ones hang out there on the corner, "Cedula por favor" (ID) Make sure they are 18+.

Lower right around Bolivar park ignore, mostly not females.[/QUOTE]Can you please email me the full size map, [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Turgid;2178989]If you don't wear outwardly branded American clothing and flashy items its going to be difficult to pick up non pros.[/QUOTE]You're being facetious, right? LOL.

My redhead sweetie I met on SeekingArrangements whose number I have given to a few of you is no longer a redhead. Not looking too bad in black though:

A short trip report of my recent trip to Medellin.

I stayed at Sites Hotel in Patio Bonito because my last stay there was great. No chica fees, convenient location. The chica entry policy of the hotel has changed since last year and now there is a chica fees of approx. 23 usd. Will scout for another hotel for my next trip.

I have built up some contacts from my last stay at the Mansion in 2016 and reached out to them. FB names of some of the chicas. Jessica Yurany, Valen Chica, Jessenia Guttierez, Monita Moreno. I love 3 somes, so I asked the girls to bring along a amiga. All the sessions were good except the one -on-one with Monita. She arrived 2 hours late and while we were warming up in bed I noticed blood stains on the sheet. Stopped in my tracks and let her go.

Another FB amiga Valentina Mejia was keen to session but I declined because she did not have a cedula. She messaged me many times assuring me that she was 18+ but I did not take a chance. She suggested a place, Dell Poblado cabana (that did not require a cedula for entry. But I did not take on the offer, did not want to take the risk. I saw her in Parque Llares during a stroll but I did not approach her. May meet her in future if she gets a cedula.

I sessioned at Tantra once, the place is good but tough to locate. My taxi driver and I walked up and down the street knocking on doors until a lady pointed the house. She said that it is called Casa China because it has a Chinese style roof. 3 chicas were available around 12 noon. I fancied a bespectacled & tattooed hottie but I asked the manager for a recommendation. He recommended a 30+ dirty blonde, forgot her name. 130 K for a session. After a shower the chica asked me what I like to do in the cama. I told her that kissing turns me on. She responded that it is 50 K extra for DFK. I pretended not to understand. She tried to explain twice and I said no entiendo. She gave up and started with a massage. Good massage. Not hard, not too soft. The sexo session was great, the mirror in the room made it much more exciting. I was relaxing in the lounge after the session and noticed that more chicas were available, some were 8+. Will definitely visit Tantra during my next trip.

Rates: 200-225 K for my FB amigas + taxi (15-25 K) for 2-3 hours. Chupa sin condom with all chicas.

Medellin is one of my favorite locations. Great weather, beautiful & friendly chicas, value for money. And a great 3 some sexo location IMHO. Hope to visit Centro clubs during my next trip.

Stay safe.

Hello everybody!

First post in a while, my other account had to get erased as my wife discovered it and was threatening to leave a few years ago. Anyhow, if anybody has any recommendations for FB girls or UTR chicas I would appreciate. Please PM chica leads if you don't want to post on the open forum. I am fluent in Spanish and an experienced monger in Argentina, Brasil and Paraguay among other locales. Also, are you guys having good luck with the [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] website? I am hoping its not filled with bait and switch or 90% fotoshop. Anyhow, those chicas look nice AF!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2178725]Can anyone provide info (website hopefully) on how / where to catch a bus out of Medellin? Specifically looking to go to Pereira and to Bucaramanga and to Cucuta. Looking for safety, comfort, and speed in that order!

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Take the Metro to the Caribe station. It let's you out at terminal del norte. All the bus companies are right there. You can compare prices. It's also a small mall.

[QUOTE=Vijai;2179111]A short trip report of my recent trip to Medellin.

I have built up some contacts from my last stay at the Mansion in 2016 and reached out to them. FB names of some of the chicas. Jessica Yurany, Valen Chica, Jessenia Guttierez, Monita Moreno. I love 3 somes, so I asked the girls to bring along a amiga. All the sessions were good except the one -on-one with Monita. She arrived 2 hours late and while we were warming up in bed I noticed blood stains on the sheet. Stopped in my tracks and let her go.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks, how does one find girls on FB?

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2178280]I had considered renting in that building last December. Yikes.[/QUOTE]That was a targeted hit on a local. I'm not saying MDE is or isn't safe cause I haven't been yet but we got plenty of that stuff going on across the US.

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2180005]Thanks, how does one find girls on FB?[/QUOTE]What I did was create a seperate Fay-boo account and simply start friending some of the more popular chicas. Pucca Garcia, Lunita Ferrante (Queen of the Mansion girls) and the ones mentioned in earlier post. Once they accept you as a Fay-boo friend, search their Friends list for chicas that fit your taste / prototype. Some have their friends list blocked to where the public can't see it or even if you are Fb friends, you still can; t see the list. On these Fb pages just look at their Photos & a lot of times they will tag their friends in the pic & you can click on their names and then send them a frien request from thier page. It takes a while but after a year or so you will have a bevy of Fay-boo honies to choose from. Good Luck.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2180204]What I did was create a seperate Fay-boo account and simply start friending some of the more popular chicas. Pucca Garcia, Lunita Ferrante (Queen of the Mansion girls) and the ones mentioned in earlier post. Once they accept you as a Fay-boo friend, search their Friends list for chicas that fit your taste / prototype. Some have their friends list blocked to where the public can't see it or even if you are Fb friends, you still can; t see the list. On these Fb pages just look at their Photos & a lot of times they will tag their friends in the pic & you can click on their names and then send them a frien request from thier page. It takes a while but after a year or so you will have a bevy of Fay-boo honies to choose from. Good Luck.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]The interesting part is when one uses his main FB account, invites as friend one of those chicas, she accepts, she starts to browse the guy's FB friends' list, then sends friendship requests to all men, and quickly many of her girlfriends start doing the same. It's an avalanche process, hard to stop once launched. It can be entertaining.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2179106]My redhead sweetie I met on SeekingArrangements whose number I have given to a few of you is no longer a redhead. Not looking too bad in black though:[/QUOTE]Still sabrosa but the red was awesome.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2180325]Still sabrosa but the red was awesome.[/QUOTE]I don't know, I just saw her a few months ago and I don't remember her hair being that long, I asked her on FB if it was a wig and she said no, it was her hair but I suspect extensions.

Although it does look pretty long here. So. Hmmm. But I agree, the red was pretty hot.

[QUOTE=Vaasusa;2179042]Can you please email me the full size map,[/QUOTE]You will have to buy a $20 membership so you can PM me a email address.

[QUOTE=Vijai;2179111]A short trip report of my recent trip to Medellin.

I stayed at Sites Hotel in Patio Bonito because my last stay there was great. No chica fees, convenient location. The chica entry policy of the hotel has changed since last year and now there is a chica fees of approx. 23 usd. Will scout for another hotel for my next trip.

I have built up some contacts from my last stay at the Mansion in 2016 and reached out to them. FB names of some of the chicas. Jessica Yurany, Valen Chica, Jessenia Guttierez, Monita Moreno. I love 3 somes, so I asked the girls to bring along a amiga. All the sessions were good except the one -on-one with Monita. She arrived 2 hours late and while we were warming up in bed I noticed blood stains on the sheet. Stopped in my tracks and let her go.

Another FB amiga Valentina Mejia was keen to session but I declined because she did not have a cedula. She messaged me many times assuring me that she was 18+ but I did not take a chance. She suggested a place, Dell Poblado cabana (that did not require a cedula for entry. But I did not take on the offer, did not want to take the risk. I saw her in Parque Llares during a stroll but I did not approach her. May meet her in future if she gets a cedula.

I sessioned at Tantra once, the place is good but tough to locate. My taxi driver and I walked up and down the street knocking on doors until a lady pointed the house. She said that it is called Casa China because it has a Chinese style roof. 3 chicas were available around 12 noon. I fancied a bespectacled & tattooed hottie but I asked the manager for a recommendation. He recommended a 30+ dirty blonde, forgot her name. 130 K for a session. After a shower the chica asked me what I like to do in the cama. I told her that kissing turns me on. She responded that it is 50 K extra for DFK. I pretended not to understand. She tried to explain twice and I said no entiendo. She gave up and started with a massage. Good massage. Not hard, not too soft. The sexo session was great, the mirror in the room made it much more exciting. I was relaxing in the lounge after the session and noticed that more chicas were available, some were 8+. Will definitely visit Tantra during my next trip.

Rates: 200-225 K for my FB amigas + taxi (15-25 K) for 2-3 hours. Chupa sin condom with all chicas.

Medellin is one of my favorite locations. Great weather, beautiful & friendly chicas, value for money. And a great 3 some sexo location IMHO. Hope to visit Centro clubs during my next trip.

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Valentina IS at least 18 (she has been to the Mansion) but she is not good at sex. You aren't missing anything, trust me.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2180407]Valentina IS at least 18 (she has been to the Mansion) but she is not good at sex. You aren't missing anything, trust me.[/QUOTE]Lou,

Thank you for your feedback, will stay away from her.

Some other chicas I met during this trip. Valentine Zapata (good) + Has Leal (OK).

Jennifer Ramirez (pretty, stacked, big girl) + her amiga, do not remember her name.

Hello gents!

Am in Medellin now, decided to try out [URL]multieroticos.com[/URL], after some research got in contact with Camila, beautiful dark skinned girl, says she is from Bucaramangara, but her accent told me Venezuelan, we agreed on 120 cop + taxi. Once I checked in the hotel I messaged her, she told me 1 hour and she was on time! I ordered us some beers, started talking, went to kiss her, she kissed back, got her undressed and laying on her back, she has natural be size titties with protruding nipples that are really fun to play with, she had medium size pussy lips, nicely pink pussy that gets instantly wet and slippery, she pulled my shirt off while I ate her, then she got me undressed, put the rubber on JR and proceeded with a wet and sloppy deep throat blow job, after a few minutes we moved to missionary, rammed that pussy as hard and deep as I could, moved to reverse cowgirl till she made me cum. We cleaned up, popped our beers open and sat on the bed facing each other naked talking for a while, I kept fondling her while we talked, grabbing her breasts and nipples, caressing her thighs, touching her pussy lips, fingering till I got hard again. She put another rubber on and got her doggy, I rammed her as hard as I could but didn't cum, she laid on her tummy while I sat on the bed Indian style, fingering her pussy and her asshole, she has such a nice ass, then she told me her little asshole was also in the menu! JR stood up to attention, the rubber goes back on and she gets in the doggy position again only now her chest is on the bed so all I get is ass, I fuck her pussy first getting lubrication, I spit on her asshole and slide in slowly, she is tight, start slow then pick up speed, till I can take it any more and cum. She gets a nice warm shower, we both get dressed and she leaves. Total damage, 170 K COP. Photos attached.

Staying in Laureles at the Inntu Hotel. I want a mongering experience on the higher end of things. Can someone send a PM with the best prepagos for outcall? Or the best chicas to call at an escort agency. Not really interested in El Centro this time. A solo traveler so looking to do my damage during the day.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2180425]Hello gents!

Am in Medellin now, decided to try out [URL]multieroticos.com[/URL], after some research got in contact with Camila, beautiful dark skinned girl, says she is from Bucaramangara, but her accent told me Venezuelan, we agreed on 120 cop + taxi. Once I checked in the hotel I messaged her, she told me 1 hour and she was on time! I ordered us some beers, started talking, went to kiss her, she kissed back, got her undressed and laying on her back, she has natural be size titties with protruding nipples that are really fun to play with, she had medium size pussy lips, nicely pink pussy that gets instantly wet and slippery, she pulled my shirt off while I ate her, then she got me undressed, put the rubber on JR and proceeded with a wet and sloppy deep throat blow job, after a few minutes we moved to missionary, rammed that pussy as hard and deep as I could, moved to reverse cowgirl till she made me cum. We cleaned up, popped our beers open and sat on the bed facing each other naked talking for a while, I kept fondling her while we talked, grabbing her breasts and nipples, caressing her thighs, touching her pussy lips, fingering till I got hard again..[/QUOTE]I believe you meant here: (I saw her ad there).

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/antioquia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180428]I want a mongering experience on the higher end of things.[/QUOTE]What exactly does this mean? You want to pay more so that you trick yourself into believing you are getting something better?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180450]What exactly does this mean? You want to pay more so that you trick yourself into believing you are getting something better?[/QUOTE]Yup. I predict he gets a few PMs from guys saying they have a special, higher-end chica they can introduce him to. He pays more and the guy doing the referring gets a discount the next time with that "higher-end" chica (who probably got boned for 50 k an hour earlier).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180450]What exactly does this mean? You want to pay more so that you trick yourself into believing you are getting something better?[/QUOTE]I'm just curious what casa has the finest selection of putas in Medellin? I know Fasedos is awesome but that's a nightclub. For straight casa shagging where are the 8-10's? Or is that something you have to fish for on the websites? Also, how does new life in the centro compare to energy or non-centro casas?

[QUOTE=Combo;2180472]Yup. I predict he gets a few PMs from guys saying they have a special, higher-end chica they can introduce him to. He pays more and the guy doing the referring gets a discount the next time with that "higher-end" chica (who probably got boned for 50 k an hour earlier).[/QUOTE]You and Mr. E are kind of being tough on this guy. He's a newbie, probably has lots of money to burn and just wants some hassle free / drama free pussy while in town regardless of the cost. I think some members would be envious to be in his position.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180428]Staying in Laureles at the Inntu Hotel. I want a mongering experience on the higher end of things. Can someone send a PM with the best prepagos for outcall? Or the best chicas to call at an escort agency. Not really interested in El Centro this time. A solo traveler so looking to do my damage during the day.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You will have no luck using the Inntu as your base of operations. It is a great hotel, but for non mongering regular guests. Pretty sure you will not even be able to get them to your room. My apartment is less than a 5 minute walk to it and this is the place me and my wife use for our married friends to stay when we need space for more folks than our apt will accommodate.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2180632]You and Mr. E are kind of being tough on this guy. He's a newbie, probably has lots of money to burn and just wants some hassle free / drama free pussy while in town regardless of the cost. I think some members would be envious to be in his position.[/QUOTE]LOL. I work hard and have discretionary income. Sorry I'm not penny pinching. Any insight from people of similar means would be greatly appreciated. The markets are up so want to have some fun.

Really didn't mean to offend those who are more budget conscious but I am not. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Rainman3;2180661]You will have no luck using the Inntu as your base of operations. It is a great hotel, but for non mongering regular guests. Pretty sure you will not even be able to get them to your room. My apartment is less than a 5 minute walk to it and this is the place me and my wife use for our married friends to stay when we need space for more folks than our apt will accommodate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that insight. Good stuff.

[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2180536]I'm just curious what casa has the finest selection of putas in Medellin? I know Fasedos is awesome but that's a nightclub. For straight casa shagging where are the 8-10's? Or is that something you have to fish for on the websites? Also, how does new life in the centro compare to energy or non-centro casas?[/QUOTE]Most likely in order:

Loutron Spa.

Calle 16 A #9 E-500.

Energy.

New Life.

There is a 1/2 HR video on this page that show's you all 3 of them. (3 min intro with music & dancing hot Colombianas).

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2180536]I'm just curious what casa has the finest selection of putas in Medellin? I know Fasedos is awesome but that's a nightclub. For straight casa shagging where are the 8-10's? Or is that something you have to fish for on the websites? Also, how does new life in the centro compare to energy or non-centro casas?[/QUOTE]Fase II is a strip club and in Medellin they are just Casa's with music and where you can sit and have a drink with the girl 1st then either do her on site or pay to have her leave with you. The ones in Centro open fairly early in the afternoon.

From what I know the order would be:

Bar La Isla (The Girls).

Fase Dos.

Luna Lunera.

Club San Diego.

Then the Centro clubs.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2180204]What I did was create a seperate Fay-boo account and simply start friending some of the more popular chicas. Pucca Garcia, Lunita Ferrante (Queen of the Mansion girls) and the ones mentioned in earlier post. Once they accept you as a Fay-boo friend, search their Friends list for chicas that fit your taste / prototype. Some have their friends list blocked to where the public can't see it or even if you are Fb friends, you still can; t see the list. On these Fb pages just look at their Photos & a lot of times they will tag their friends in the pic & you can click on their names and then send them a frien request from thier page. It takes a while but after a year or so you will have a bevy of Fay-boo honies to choose from. Good Luck.

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that spelling cracked me up! But I like your idea, its a long term strategy but certainly worth it, I'd guess.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180707]LOL. I work hard and have discretionary income. Sorry I'm not penny pinching. Any insight from people of similar means would be greatly appreciated. The markets are up so want to have some fun.

Really didn't mean to offend those who are more budget conscious but I am not. Sorry.[/QUOTE]You don't have to apologize for how you roll as everyone rolls differently and I doubt you offended anyone. Have a good time!

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180707]LOL. I work hard and have discretionary income. Sorry I'm not penny pinching. Any insight from people of similar means would be greatly appreciated. The markets are up so want to have some fun.

Really didn't mean to offend those who are more budget conscious but I am not. Sorry.[/QUOTE]There was no offense taken. Was just asking you to explain your definition of "higher end of things" which you still did not do. You can not expect help when you come with vague statements as such. So are you saying you only want to pay more? Or is there some specific thing you are willing to pay more for that you feel you can not get for less? You want some chick that has been seen on TV or in a magazine? You want the chick with the biggest implants in all of Medellin? What does higher end mean to you besides paying more money?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180804]There was no offense taken. Was just asking you to explain your definition of "higher end of things" which you still did not do. You can not expect help when you come with vague statements as such. So are you saying you only want to pay more? Or is there some specific thing you are willing to pay more for that you feel you can not get for less? You want some chick that has been seen on TV or in a magazine? You want the chick with the biggest implants in all of Medellin? What does higher end mean to you besides paying more money?[/QUOTE]Makes sense. By higher end I am referring to the quality of escorts. I would like to get as close to 9's and 10's as possible. I heard that in El Centro the girls are a little rougher. My goal is to interact with as many model type Colombianas as possible. Thanks for your help guys. Bare with me as I get the hang of this. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2180776]Most likely in order:

Loutron Spa.

Calle 16 A #9 E-500.

Energy.

New Life.

There is a 1/2 HR video on this page that show's you all 3 of them. (3 min intro with music & dancing hot Colombianas).

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL][/QUOTE]Great posts Wolfe, thanks for the info. You and Pollo have been helpful around here. I'm fixing on staying in the estadio / Laurales barrio. Anyone got chica friendly recommendations for that area? Hopefully around the metro station.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2180632]You and Mr. E are kind of being tough on this guy. He's a newbie, probably has lots of money to burn and just wants some hassle free / drama free pussy while in town regardless of the cost. I think some members would be envious to be in his position.[/QUOTE]Most of us have money to burn. However, nothing good comes from advertising that fact. And the best way of advertising it is to tell everyone (including the chicas) that you have a large budget.

That said, I do sort of envy him as a newbie (to Colombia, Brasil, wherever). Getting into this hobby is an eye-opening experience.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180428]Staying in Laureles at the Inntu Hotel. I want a mongering experience on the higher end of things.[/QUOTE]I met a chick a New Life two years ago when it was 45 k half hour. Then a year later I came across her at Energy, moving up the ranks. And she recently graduated to the real "higher end of things," Louton collecting I believe it's 300 k for service. However she looked better back in her New Life days at a small fraction of the cost. But that's how this story often goes.

Is like in Costa Rica, a good portion of the Del Rey girls charging 80 to 100 US started out in the inexpensive MPs that cater to locals, and some work both.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2180776]Most likely in order:

Loutron Spa.

Calle 16 A #9 E-500.

Energy.

New Life.

There is a 1/2 HR video on this page that show's you all 3 of them. (3 min intro with music & dancing hot Colombianas).

[URL]https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/[/URL][/QUOTE]A short list of 3 but good ones, on Adultsearch some places are outdated, check out this list of casas in Medellin too:

[URL]http://doncolombia.com/mapas/medellin.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180428]Staying in Laureles at the Inntu Hotel. I want a mongering experience on the higher end of things. Can someone send a PM with the best prepagos for outcall? Or the best chicas to call at an escort agency. Not really interested in El Centro this time. A solo traveler so looking to do my damage during the day.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You're already going to have problems and you haven't gotten on the plane. You want outcall, but your hotel probably won't allow you to have guests. The next problem is you apparently want to use escort agencies, which will help you to spend your discretionary income, but you're almost guaranteed to get half the service at twice the price.

The best game in town is Facebook. You have plenty of time to build up a large selection. There are hundreds of girls to choose from, most are as good or better than you'll get from the agencies and they will be happy with 150 - 200 k plus another 20 k for a taxi. Most will stay for at least 2 hours for that price.

I've paid between 40 k and 250 k in Medellin and I can assure you that paying more has nothing to do with quality of service.

Spend as you like. If you are worried about missing out on the "high end" just go to any of the venues listed here or others you may discover, then pay double the asking price. You will have found the high end.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180707]LOL. I work hard and have discretionary income. Sorry I'm not penny pinching. Any insight from people of similar means would be greatly appreciated. The markets are up so want to have some fun.

Really didn't mean to offend those who are more budget conscious but I am not. Sorry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180804]There was no offense taken. Was just asking you to explain your definition of "higher end of things" which you still did not do. You can not expect help when you come with vague statements as such. So are you saying you only want to pay more? Or is there some specific thing you are willing to pay more for that you feel you can not get for less? You want some chick that has been seen on TV or in a magazine? You want the chick with the biggest implants in all of Medellin? What does higher end mean to you besides paying more money?[/QUOTE]If he he wants to spend a lot of money I suggest Luxury Barbie, she quoted me an insane price:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8df9c949-7369-4c96-a34a-fb5decf101e5[/URL]

[QUOTE=Friend2017;2180905]A short list of 3 but good ones, on Adultsearch some places are outdated, check out this list of casas in Medellin too:

[URL]http://doncolombia.com/mapas/medellin.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Perfect. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2180934]Spend as you like. If you are worried about missing out on the "high end" just go to any of the venues listed here or others you may discover, then pay double the asking price. You will have found the high end.[/QUOTE]This is helpful. I may have worded the "higher-end" stuff wrongly. Definitely don't want to overpay. I heard Loutron had better beds and generally a better space. In reference to higher end I am really referring to the amenities. I def. Want the hottest chicas for the lowest price. I appreciate the feedback. My trip is going to be great. Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2180908]You're already going to have problems and you haven't gotten on the plane. You want outcall, but your hotel probably won't allow you to have guests. The next problem is you apparently want to use escort agencies, which will help you to spend your discretionary income, but you're almost guaranteed to get half the service at twice the price.

The best game in town is Facebook. You have plenty of time to build up a large selection. There are hundreds of girls to choose from, most are as good or better than you'll get from the agencies and they will be happy with 150 - 200 k plus another 20 k for a taxi. Most will stay for at least 2 hours for that price.

I've paid between 40 k and 250 k in Medellin and I can assure you that paying more has nothing to do with quality of service.[/QUOTE]Great advice. I was looking at the outcall escort websites and wasn't sure if those girls actually had legit pics. They were smoking hot LOL. I like the Facebook idea. Should I just search for women in Medelllin via the search tool? Or is there a better way per your experience?

Really appreciate it. Thank you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2180908]The best game in town is Facebook. You have plenty of time to build up a large selection. There are hundreds of girls to choose from, most are as good or better than you'll get from the agencies and they will be happy with 150 - 200 k plus another 20 k for a taxi. Most will stay for at least 2 hours for that price.[/QUOTE]The flip side of this, and for some the best game in town is El Centro.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180707]LOL. I work hard and have discretionary income. Sorry I'm not penny pinching. Any insight from people of similar means would be greatly appreciated. The markets are up so want to have some fun.

Really didn't mean to offend those who are more budget conscious but I am not. Sorry.[/QUOTE]How you see fit, the oldest vets with large egos & prostates will always bash you. In box me, I will give you some actual girls you can choose from. Here's a idea, see one or two, spend a normal amount, ask her to bring a friend next date & promise her a 100 mil tip, that's like $33 US dollars. Have fun my mongering friend, Pollonegro is out!

[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2180853]Great posts Wolfe, thanks for the info. You and Pollo have been helpful around here. I'm fixing on staying in the estadio / Laurales barrio. Anyone got chica friendly recommendations for that area? Hopefully around the metro station.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try The San Peter. It is an apartment building that is guest friendly. I have booked there for my next trip in July. Great reviews. I personally haven't stayed there yet, but I too wanted to move from the Poblado area to Laureles. So I'm giving this one a try.

[QUOTE=Combo;2180878]Most of us have money to burn........[/QUOTE]Hey, instead of burning your money could you give me some? It would save you the trouble of burning it and would enhance my upcoming FKK experience.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2180821]Makes sense. By higher end I am referring to the quality of escorts. I would like to get as close to 9's and 10's as possible. I heard that in El Centro the girls are a little rougher. My goal is to interact with as many model type Colombianas as possible. Thanks for your help guys. Bare with me as I get the hang of this. Thanks.[/QUOTE]A higher end Chica for me in El Centro would cost more than 30 K Pesos, not be deaf or mute or both, not a Sacalero, weigh less than 150 pounds, and I would get to session in an upgraded room that has hot water.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2180908]You're already going to have problems and you haven't gotten on the plane. You want outcall, but your hotel probably won't allow you to have guests. The next problem is you apparently want to use escort agencies, which will help you to spend your discretionary income, but you're almost guaranteed to get half the service at twice the price.

The best game in town is Facebook. You have plenty of time to build up a large selection. There are hundreds of girls to choose from, most are as good or better than you'll get from the agencies and they will be happy with 150 - 200 k plus another 20 k for a taxi. Most will stay for at least 2 hours for that price.

I've paid between 40 k and 250 k in Medellin and I can assure you that paying more has nothing to do with quality of service.[/QUOTE]Could you please offer us some Facebook pages? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2180936]If he he wants to spend a lot of money I suggest Luxury Barbie, she quoted me an insane price:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8df9c949-7369-4c96-a34a-fb5decf101e5[/URL][/QUOTE]Have you had experience with her? What's her asking price? LOL.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2180936]If he he wants to spend a lot of money I suggest Luxury Barbie, she quoted me an insane price:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8df9c949-7369-4c96-a34a-fb5decf101e5[/URL][/QUOTE]It was a year ago on my 1st trip to MED and I messaged a bunch of [URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL] girls for TLN (all night) prices and she quoted me $2,000 US. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2181121]The flip side of this, and for some the best game in town is El Centro.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Out of the 60 +- MED chicks I have seen from everywhere from Energy, Fase II, New Life, Luna Lunera etc, my fav is still a 30 k Centro street chick who was a blast.

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[QUOTE=Wolf662;2181203]It was a year ago on my 1st trip to MED and I messaged a bunch of [URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL] girls for TLN (all night) prices and she quoted me $2,000 US. LOL.[/QUOTE]I can only imagine the rules Barbie would have as well.

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2181093]Want the hottest chicas for the lowest price.[/QUOTE]That would be the Centro chicks at the med to low end strip clubs and occasionally the red light blocks.

Damn. First time ever I actually walked out of energy.

They ususally have even one or Two when it's slow. But straight up, this past two weeks line up.

It's like stretch marks, bullet holes and bad tattoos. I'm talking to the manager they got to change soon!

When I was there, there was another guy in the other room looking at the line up. Even he didn't see something. We both walked!! Wtf.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2181121]The flip side of this, and for some the best game in town is El Centro.[/QUOTE]You're correct. Depends on the way each person plays the game. Which is what makes it so difficult to advise the newbies. I had a guy completely freak out walking behind Veracruz when a girl tried to grab him. Couldn't get him out of there fast enough. Other guys, that's the best place to hunt.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2181149]Hey, instead of burning your money could you give me some? It would save you the trouble of burning it and would enhance my upcoming FKK experience.[/QUOTE]Hah! The FKKs are definitely an easy place to burn money. I normally try to not overspend (for multiple reasons). However, my one FKK experience I spent about $550 USD in one day / night. The only other time close to that was an evening in Sao Paulo (about $400).

Over many years in this hobby, I've learned that paying more doesn't give you a better experience. And the more you throw around money, the more likely you are to find trouble.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2181176]Could you please offer us some Facebook pages? Thanks![/QUOTE]No. Well, I could, but I won't. Here's where I explain why I won't.

For every guy who posts reviews, trip reports and helpful information there's 5 guys who only ask questions and never post anything useful. For every 1 guy that only posts questions there's 100 guys who read the messages but never post anything. Most of them never will visit another country. They just fantasize about it.

Let's put them aside for a minute. The guys who do post reports you can get an idea about them. Most are basically decent people. If one of them asks for a recommendation I have a good idea on whether or not to give them a number and who is most likely to be a good match. If the girl I recommend runs into a problem with him, and that has happened, I know who is the problem.

Now that group of lurkers, I know nothing about any of them, except they are completely anonymous. If I post a girl's information for everyone to see, she's likely to start having problems. Some guy might start sending her threats, or make her waste her time and money coming to see him, when he's not even in the country. Some guy might get her to send a few pictures and then send them to her mother.

Truth is, too many of the lurkers are assholes. Why make it easier for them to mess up someone's life?

If you want to get started with Facebook, read the forum. You will find links to Facebook pages, plus more than one tutorial on how to build a list of Facebook friends. If you want specific links, start posting some trip reports and reviews.

[QUOTE=Combo;2181370]Hah! The FKKs are definitely an easy place to burn money. I normally try to not overspend (for multiple reasons). However, my one FKK experience I spent about $550 USD in one day / night. The only other time close to that was an evening in Sao Paulo (about $400).

Over many years in this hobby, I've learned that paying more doesn't give you a better experience. And the more you throw around money, the more likely you are to find trouble.[/QUOTE]That's nothing. Try spending $130,000 hahaha.

Every place has its slumps, ups and downs. Those prices never seem to go down however.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2181316]Damn. First time ever I actually walked out of energy.

They ususally have even one or Two when it's slow. But straight up, this past two weeks line up.

It's like stretch marks, bullet holes and bad tattoos. I'm talking to the manager they got to change soon!

When I was there, there was another guy in the other room looking at the line up. Even he didn't see something. We both walked!! Wtf.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2181372]No. Well, I could, but I won't. Here's where I explain why I won't.[/QUOTE]Not only that, but he posted the same request on March 31, afterwhich Pokeris and Surf Looker responded with a list of fb pages, and here he is again with the same request not even 2 months later.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2181405]Every place has its slumps, ups and downs. Those prices never seem to go down however.[/QUOTE]That's definitely true, but my last two visits to Energy (December and January), I also encountered a lack of attractive chicas. At least 20 girls presented themselves, and none piqued my interest. I've never liked that you can't chat with them first, but at least before, the quality of looks made up for that. Interestingly, at some of the Centro casas, they've let me converse a bit with the girls before choosing, but at Energy, they wouldn't allow that.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2181372]No. Well, I could, but I won't. Here's where I explain why I won't.

For every guy who posts reviews, trip reports and helpful information there's 5 guys who only ask questions and never post anything useful. For every 1 guy that only posts questions there's 100 guys who read the messages but never post anything. Most of them never will visit another country. They just fantasize about it.

Let's put them aside for a minute. The guys who do post reports you can get an idea about them. Most are basically decent people. If one of them asks for a recommendation I have a good idea on whether or not to give them a number and who is most likely to be a good match. If the girl I recommend runs into a problem with him, and that has happened, I know who is the problem.

Now that group of lurkers, I know nothing about any of them, except they are completely anonymous. If I post a girl's information for everyone to see, she's likely to start having problems. Some guy might start sending her threats, or make her waste her time and money coming to see him, when he's not even in the country. Some guy might get her to send a few pictures and then send them to her mother..[/QUOTE]Cold hard truth!

This report is a little late also may not be exiting!! But I wanted to share my experience first time visiting Medellin. I have retired last year. I used to live in Florida, I have arthritis problems and my legs started to kill me because of constant daily temperature, pressure and humidity changes in Florida. I decided to visit Medellin and see how I will like the city of eternal spring and how I will feel there. I bought a one-way ticket since I did not know how long I may stay. Flight was smooth, costumes were a little slow but easy. I came out of costumes went to 2nd floor to change money. I came out of airport and took a taxi with fixed fee to Airbnb apartment in Enviago. Taxi ride was good, and all metered taxis worked very well for me and very reasonable. Apartment was small but very nice on a quite and tree lined street. 'My reservation was for 3 days. I wanted to stay longer but I could stay only 2 more days because of another reservation. Next day I met a regular girl from Facebook. She was working very close to apartment until 3 PM. She had time to meet after 3. Nice 25 years old widow with 1 son. Husband was killed accidentally in the house by a bullet coming from street. We clicked right away and she spent a lot of time with me showing me Medellin. I liked her a lot. I really wanted to spend more time to get to know each other but I had to leave after 2 weeks. No sex and no money were mentioned, regular date. I loved the weather, warm days and cool nights. But I started to have difficulty to walk because of temperature swings. I decided to live after 2 weeks.

I made arrangements to meet a 21 years old girl from Tagged. We agreed to meet at Ayura train station. I went to the station and almost shocked when I saw here. She was obviously a minor and I did not know what to do. I thought that it was probably a set up. I just said Hi and asked if she had a cedula. She said no. I kept my distance and quickly decided to give her money for metro ride. I gave her 20 k for metro and without saying anything I just left in a hurry without turning back. I decided to take my time and spend more time with regular girl I liked a lot.

I visited Mayorista twice during the day. I did not see anything interesting. I also visited one late night. I did not see any woman for my taste. Very small area and not too many options. One day I walked from Poblado to Centro just to see. I am always careful and aware of my surroundings. I don't carry anything which has any value. It was very crowded. I did not feel anything unusual or threatening. I just observed the people and surroundings and get familiar with Centro.

I moved to an Airbnb apartment in Floresta after Envigado. It was right on the main street and noisy 24/7. I had difficulty to sleep and moved to another apartment in Sabaneta. It was advertised as private apartment but it was a shared apartment. I stayed one day and moved again to another apartment in Itagui. I wasted valuable a couple of days. Then I decided it is time to do something about my needs. I contacted one of my non-pro Facebook friends. She came on time. Very nice girl, just starting to see gringos. Session was disappointing because of the shyness and lack of experience the girl had. I took care of business and paid her 150 k. She was very happy, she did not expect it after a mediocre session.

I spent 2 weeks in Medellin mostly moving from one apartment to another! It was a good trip to get to know the city. I could not do much mongering activities because of the regular girl I met second day of my trip and scare I had because of minor (possible set up).

Got frustrated with the casa and decided to try this place.

Getting there wasn't difficult as everyone makes it out to be. Just remember to look for the big catcus like plant outside and youll be ok. Look at the photo from the site and youll be good.

I arrive and am greeted to seat on gaudry black and pink couches by the mamasan. I get a beer and wait for the lineup.

There are about 5 girls working. I ask if there are more and they bascially say that this is the limit for this place in the moment.

I decideed on Jessica, a hipster redhead with some tats and a pretty paisa face. She is white, thick and has perfect natural tits.

I pay 130 upfront for the hour.

We get into the room she asks me what I want. Just the ususal. She tells me no oral naturale not even for a propina or kissing on lips. This place is by the books or maybe she is.

Never the less her cute face makes up for it. We start with a massage. She has really good hands and when she flips me over is really gentle with the johnson.

She puts flavored lube on her large tits and I lick and suck them with the taste of delcious strawberry jam. She puts the rubber on and gives a not too bad BJ for it being covered. She gets on top and her pussy is super tight.

We do miss and she gets into it as I rub her clit. After we do doggy and we both enjoy watching ourselfs on the giant mirror across from the room. She looks really good in this way.

She tells me she wants leche in her culo but I insiste on her tits. She is super cool with this request. Jerks me all over her tits and really is into it and enjoys it. I cum a bucket and a half, and 8 roper. She laughs at the ammount of cum.

We chat for 10 and I get her to practice english with me. We shoower and we are done. After I go into the back of the casa and there is this small cute outdoor garden. I order a whiskey for 15 K and relax. THey call a taxi and the taxi takes me away.

Good sess.

I think Tantra is like a botuqie version of Energy and if Energy LU doesn't change this will be my new go to place.

Happy hunting.

P.S. Can you guy STOP talking on this forum and go to Medellin Chit chat and save this for forum for reports please!

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;2181747]I spent 2 weeks in Medellin mostly moving from one apartment to another! It was a good trip to get to know the city. I could not do much mongering activities because of the regular girl I met second day of my trip and scare I had because of minor (possible set up).[/QUOTE]Great report. No doubt that you speak Spanish with all the moving around you were doing and all the nonpros you were seeing.

[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2180425]Hello gents!

Am in Medellin now, decided to try out [URL]multieroticos.com[/URL], after some research got in contact with Camila, beautiful dark skinned girl, says she is from Bucaramangara, but her accent told me Venezuelan, we agreed on 120 cop + taxi. Once I checked in the hotel I messaged her, she told me 1 hour and she was on time! I ordered us some beers, started talking, went to kiss her, she kissed back, got her undressed and laying on her back, she has natural be size titties with protruding nipples that are really fun to play with, she had medium size pussy lips, nicely pink pussy that gets instantly wet and slippery, she pulled my shirt off while I ate her, then she got me undressed, put the rubber on JR and proceeded with a wet and sloppy deep throat blow job, after a few minutes we moved to missionary, rammed that pussy as hard and deep as I could, moved to reverse cowgirl till she made me cum. We cleaned up, popped our beers open and sat on the bed facing each other naked talking for a while, I kept fondling her while we talked, grabbing her breasts and nipples, caressing her thighs, touching her pussy lips, fingering till I got hard again. She put another rubber on and got her doggy, I rammed her as hard as I could but didn't cum, she laid on her tummy while I sat on the bed Indian style, fingering her pussy and her asshole, she has such a nice ass, then she told me her little asshole was also in the menu! JR stood up to attention, the rubber goes back on and she gets in the doggy position again only now her chest is on the bed so all I get is ass, I fuck her pussy first getting lubrication, I spit on her asshole and slide in slowly, she is tight, start slow then pick up speed, till I can take it any more and cum. She gets a nice warm shower, we both get dressed and she leaves. Total damage, 170 K COP. Photos attached.[/QUOTE]Great post! She's a gem.

Do you mind PM her contact to me please? Couldn't find her on multieroticos.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2181316]Damn. First time ever I actually walked out of energy.
They ususally have even one or Two when it's slow. But straight up, this past two weeks line up.
It's like stretch marks, bullet holes and bad tattoos. I'm talking to the manager they got to change soon!
When I was there, there was another guy in the other room looking at the line up. Even he didn't see something. We both walked!! Wtf.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience in Energy two weeks ago. It was around 4 pm, took forever for the girls to introduce, and when they disrobed all looked below average- out of shape, body marks, unattractive Colombianas- more along the cheaper MP level. Perhaps it was my timing and maybe some truly attractive girls were busy but I found management to be disorganized and the lineup of about 8 girls to be uninspiring.

I saw another small group of men choosing their girls before the remaining were introduced to me but the girls they were taking were completely average as well.

Has anyone else been to Energy lately and found good things?

Many thanks to those who contribute to this valuable forum. I'm heading to Medellin with a friend next month for 4 nights and doing my homework, RTFF. I'm a middle aged gringo, conversational Spanish, my friend is originally from Colombia, both experienced mongers. We are staying at Mansion 2 (1 was booked) and we are short-time, high volume mongers, no GFE, Facebook girlfriends for us. Escorts aren't really our thing either but photoprepagos looks like a solid Hale Mary option.

For a 4 day trip, my plan was basically:

Loutron. I know it's an inconvenient clip joint, but got to try it at least once.

Energy. I figured this would be our go to spot.

New Life. Second "go to" spot.

False II.

Luna Linera.

Ejectiva & Maracaibo.

Mansion girls.

I'the like to checkout Mayorista though it looks like limited options when I explore it on Google maps. Parts of Centro I would be fine exploring in the daytime though the areas on Google maps that I see the highest volume of working girls, seem a bit sketchy as I can't really blend in. I'm not an easy target, but certainly an obvious one.

I guess my question is, since Energy and New Life seem to be racking up the poor quality reports as of late, what are some other quality casas we can hit? Doesn't need to be "top shelf" with 9's and 10's (rarely good in bed anyway) but I'm not looking for a glue sniffing tranny on De Griffe and 54th either. Has the talent moved elsewhere? What are some other midrange casas with a decent lineup, reasonable prices, and a gringo won't stick out like a sore thumb?

BTW, it really sucks the Medellin is the only map on here you can't access without a paid membership. It's not the $20 but us married guys can't risk the wife seeing a suspicious charge on our Visa statements.

Thanks in advance.

Hey fellas,

I'll be in Medallo on the 29th. I'm a 40 year old male still new to the hobby. My mother tongue is Spanish.

Thanks all for the useful reports.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2181121]The flip side of this, and for some the best game in town is El Centro.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For me too! A little patience goes a long way. I don't even consider it patience. Walking around centro, eating fresh fruit, admiring the old architecture. Imagining the possibilities of how things might look in the future. To repeat for the millionth time, I have many amigas whom I have met in centro. Tried and true, they tend to be the most humble. The most fun. The most interesting. The most economical and the ones I tend to share with my good friends. Having said that, some are also completely nuts. LOL.

I agree completely. There is a little bit of everything in Centro. The old architecture is a treat. I love the vintage building converted into an indoor shopping mall on Ayacucho for example. As for girls, it runs the gamut from beauties to the most tweaked out glue sniffing gamines. It's world class people watching. I also find it refreshing that Colombia is unusual compared to most other Latin American countries in that political discussions among the public and in the media doesn't tend to get heated or lead to violence. I sense that the country has had its fill of that between the eras of narco terror and the FARC. I remember watching the May Day demonstration March on Oriental last year. Don't get me wrong, the crowd definitely got feisty at times but I was impressed that cooler heads appealed to troublemakers by reminding them there were young children amongst them.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182350]Agreed. For me too! A little patience goes a long way. I don't even consider it patience. Walking around centro, eating fresh fruit, admiring the old architecture. Imagining the possibilities of how things might look in the future. To repeat for the millionth time, I have many amigas whom I have met in centro. Tried and true, they tend to be the most humble. The most fun. The most interesting. The most economical and the ones I tend to share with my good friends. Having said that, some are also completely nuts. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2181372]No. Well, I could, but I won't. Here's where I explain why I won't.

For every guy who posts reviews, trip reports and helpful information there's 5 guys who only ask questions and never post anything useful. For every 1 guy that only posts questions there's 100 guys who read the messages but never post anything. Most of them never will visit another country. They just fantasize about it.

Let's put them aside for a minute. The guys who do post reports you can get an idea about them. Most are basically decent people. If one of them asks for a recommendation I have a good idea on whether or not to give them a number and who is most likely to be a good match. If the girl I recommend runs into a problem with him, and that has happened, I know who is the problem.

Now that group of lurkers, I know nothing about any of them, except they are completely anonymous. If I post a girl's information for everyone to see, she's likely to start having problems. Some guy might start sending her threats, or make her waste her time and money coming to see him, when he's not even in the country. Some guy might get her to send a few pictures and then send them to her mother.

[b]Truth is, too many of the lurkers are assholes. Why make it easier for them to mess up someone's life?[/b][/QUOTE]Co-sign 100%

Most guys are creeps. Find your own damn chicas. I have a legit soft harem I have built over multiple years, and not about to cuck myself by giving out my chicas contact info to some anonymous sperg.

Plenty of info here pointing you in the right direction. It's up to you to close the deal.

My chicas still deal with me all these years because I dont go handing out their info to tha bros and da homies. Ive had other chicas recommend chicas to me, so my pipeline remains full of new stock.

Your rep is everything in this game. With social media word gets out quickly and your actions will inevitably effect the kind of chicas you can get.

Most guys should stick to El Centro or La Mayorista if the above criteria is too much of a moral challenge for your character.

Every trip has outdone the last. I fucked a popular fitness model this time around. Life is good.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2182183]Many thanks to those who contribute to this valuable forum. I'm heading to Medellin with a friend next month for 4 nights and doing my homework, RTFF. I'm a middle aged gringo, conversational Spanish, my friend is originally from Colombia, both experienced mongers. We are staying at Mansion 2 (1 was booked) and we are short-time, high volume mongers, no GFE, Facebook girlfriends for us. Escorts aren't really our thing either but photoprepagos looks like a solid Hale Mary option.

For a 4 day trip, my plan was basically:

Loutron. I know it's an inconvenient clip joint, but got to try it at least once..[/QUOTE]Why not just have one of your unmarried buddies pay for it and give home the cash? Another solution would be to buy a pre-paid visa at Walgreeens, CVS, Walmart etc. And pay it that way. Too easy.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182350]Agreed. For me too! A little patience goes a long way. I don't even consider it patience. Walking around centro, eating fresh fruit, admiring the old architecture. Imagining the possibilities of how things might look in the future. To repeat for the millionth time, I have many amigas whom I have met in centro. Tried and true, they tend to be the most humble. The most fun. The most interesting. The most economical and the ones I tend to share with my good friends. Having said that, some are also completely nuts. LOL.[/QUOTE]I've developed a nice stable of girls in El Centro some of which I have nicknames for such as my Indian Princess, she's indigenous and another one I call the Nun as she's always wearing crosses. I treat them all well but don't believe in sharing any of my Chicas with anyone. As your probably aware you have to spend a lot of time trolling and going with different Chicas to find ones that you really click with. I'm always on the lookout for new girls. There are lots of groups of girls in and around the Church and Museum whom congregate together. Lots of them are familiar to me and there is a "grapevine" there as well. I stay away from them and any Chica that asks me to gift them money I stay away from. You give them two hundred pesos and you've opened the barn door. However if one my regulars approaches me and I'm not going with them I will give them a few thousand Pesos which they appreciate I try to stay under the radar as much as possible when I'm in El Centro and am not an obvious gringo so am fortunate in that regards. I'm typically looking for the "loners" and as I said it takes time. And it's worth it as you have pointed out in your post. So many gems and and at bargain basement prices!

I got a message from one FB chica that I banged last trip that it's so slow because LOTS of chicas around and undercutting prices. Anybody get a sense of that?

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2182183]Many thanks to those who contribute to this valuable forum. I'm heading to Medellin with a friend next month for 4 nights and doing my homework, RTFF. I'm a middle aged gringo, conversational Spanish, my friend is originally from Colombia, both experienced mongers. We are staying at Mansion 2 (1 was booked) and we are short-time, high volume mongers, no GFE, Facebook girlfriends for us. Escorts aren't really our thing either but photoprepagos looks like a solid Hale Mary option.

For a 4 day trip, my plan was basically:

Loutron. I know it's an inconvenient clip joint, but got to try it at least once..[/QUOTE]I would take Energy off your list. In fact, for a 4 day trip, for high volume mongers I'd scrap most of your list. You're going to waste time going out to Energy.

I would start my day at New Life. Calle 56 #43-39. Most taxi drivers will know where it is. Just tell them la casa de chicas con la puerta azul. Scratch that. I'd start with late breakfast, early lunch at Delicias Al Natural Carrera 43 #55-35. Great cheap food. From there, turn left and walk to the corner, turn left on Calle 56 and just a little way down is New Life. Just go through the blue door. When you leave New Life, go back to Carrera 43 and go north to Calle 56. Go left and look for the red door. It's in the same place as New Life, just a block north. That's Aiffe, Calle 56 #43-27.

When you step out of Aiffe turn left, go to the 2nd Street turn right. Go almost a block and Club Sexxy Amigas is on the left Carrera 45 the #57-67. From there, walk back to Calle 56 and turn right / west. Cross Avenida Oriental and go one block to Carrera 47. If you turn right you'll find Masajes Zandalay at Carrera 47 #57 A-34. If you turn left you'll find Paris Club at Carrera 47 #56-34. You should be able to find something to your tastes in one of the 5 places. After a few sessions, take a taxi back to the Mansion and check out the talent at the pool. You might take a 2nd casa run in the afternoon.

You'll have some downtime early evening waiting for the Mansion girls to filter in. Mayorista isn't really worth the effort, but the El Centro stroll is worth it. You're biggest risk will be pickpockets. Don't let the girls grab on to you.

Start at Botero Plaza and find Iglesia Veracruz. It's the old white church. Take the alley beside the church to Carrera 53. Turn right and both sides of the street will be full of chicas. In the alley you'll find mostly trannies and grannies. Continue for 2 blocks (the 2nd block is just the museum on the right and a parking lot on the left) cross Calle 53 and turn left. Go one block and turn right. There are girls only for the first half of the block, with most by the corner. Just walk half a block on one side, cross and walk back.

Back at Calle 53, go back to Carrera 53 and turn left. This block, to Calle 54, is lined with bars. Most will have chicas inside. Carrera 52 A, which is a diagonal walking street and Carrera 52 are also lined with bars between Calle 53 and 54. You should be okay until about 9 pm if you keep your wits about you.

Head back to the Mansion or to dinner and the girls will all be at the bar. If you can't get your fill there, try Fase II. It's expensive, but by 11 pm you should be able to find one you like. If not then you might consider the other strip clubs.

I like your style. Having a group of known girls who have compatible personalities and physical traits takes a lot anxiety and hassle out of sessions. I think it's the best way all around. All the experienced hobbyists I know follow this practice to some extent. Another benefit is the random casa run or encounter on the street becomes something you do to break up the routine of the girls you see regularly. It keeps the sessions with the regulars fresh. If an "off the reservation" session doesn't go well, no sweat, it's back to the regulars.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2182481]I've developed a nice stable of girls in El Centro some of which I have nicknames for such as my Indian Princess, she's indigenous and another one I call the Nun as she's always wearing crosses. I treat them all well but don't believe in sharing any of my Chicas with anyone. As your probably aware you have to spend a lot of time trolling and going with different Chicas to find ones that you really click with. I'm always on the lookout for new girls. There are lots of groups of girls in and around the Church and Museum whom congregate together. Lots of them are familiar to me and there is a "grapevine" there as well. I stay away from them and any Chica that asks me to gift them money I stay away from. You give them two hundred pesos and you've opened the barn door. However if one my regulars approaches me and I'm not going with them I will give them a few thousand Pesos which they appreciate I try to stay under the radar as much as possible when I'm in El Centro and am not an obvious gringo so am fortunate in that regards. I'm typically looking for the "loners" and as I said it takes time. And it's worth it as you have pointed out in your post. So many gems and and at bargain basement prices![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2182384]Co-sign 100%

Most guys are creeps. Find your own damn chicas. I have a legit soft harem I have built over multiple years, and not about to cuck myself by giving out my chicas contact info to some anonymous sperg.

Plenty of info here pointing you in the right direction. It's up to you to close the deal.

My chicas still deal with me all these years because I dont go handing out their info to tha bros and da homies. Ive had other chicas recommend chicas to me, so my pipeline remains full of new stock.

Your rep is everything in this game. With social media word gets out quickly and your actions will inevitably effect the kind of chicas you can get.

Most guys should stick to El Centro or La Mayorista if the above criteria is too much of a moral challenge for your character.

Every trip has outdone the last. I fucked a popular fitness model this time around. Life is good.[/QUOTE]I received a perfect example just a few days ago. There are a few girls who message me regularly. Just a quick how are you check in. This particular girl is a lot of fun and is fantastic if you treat her right.

Some guy had shared her number. The guy that contacted her went straight into "this is what I'm going to do" mode and made her angry. Just because a girl is willing to fuck you for money doesn't mean she will put up with being treated like crap.

Her message to me was "it's guys like this who turn sweet girls into mean bitches."

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2182183]For a 4 day trip, my plan was basically:

Loutron. I know it's an inconvenient clip joint, but got to try it at least once.

Energy. I figured this would be our go to spot.

New Life. Second "go to" spot.

False II.

Luna Linera.

Ejectiva & Maracaibo.

Mansion girls.[/QUOTE]If you are going to hit the Centro Clubs I would ad Conejitas to the list, it has a lot more girls then Maracaibo. (but since Mari. Is next to BarraEjective you might as well peek in there, but I usually just stroll through there and sit and get a drink at the other 2).

If you don't mind spending Loutron money you might as well add "Bar Isla-The Girls" to the list as a top shelf strip club.

I have a question that I should already know the answer to, but I'm not really sure. Or maybe just in denial.

What basic rights does one have walking outside in public with regards to privacy?

Can the police search you for no reason? Can they look at your phone? Can they just go into your pockets and wallet as they please?

I ask this because I stopped by the mansion in a taxi to pick up a friend. I got out, walked to the gate and before I could even ring the bell, I was confronted by two aggressive police officers who bombarded me with questions. I responded politely to every question. Meanwhile, one of the officers puts his hand in my pockets and pulls out everything I had.

EXTREMELY Uncomfortable situation! Not to mention the cooperation the mansion doorman! I had to repeat at least 6 times, I was there to pick up a friend and even by the doorguy I was treated like some kind of criminal and liar. WTF.

Needless to say I will not be returning to the mansion any time soon!

But my question. Do I have to let the police search me? Don't they have to preface the search with some kind of justification? I really want to be prepared for this in the future! Liek maybe take out my phone and start recording because I really felt like I was at their mercy.

After a lot of drama, my friend came out and the door guy apologized. Her guess was the cops were looking for a reason to blackmail me.

I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I am pleased the situation did not deteriorate further. I can't answer your question definitively. I expect if you were caught with contraband you would have been in a bit of bother. It's possible you could get relief if the police could have been shown to have performed an illegal search and seizure because of insufficient cause, but legal fees and potential reputation damage strike me as very undesirable.

I agree with your idea of avoiding the place where it happened. What happened to you is one of several other reasons I've never been a customer and don't plan to become one. I doubt the police were targeting you personally. The place this happened to you has been the target of civil authorities and criminals at various times in the past. It appears the civil authorities are again focused on the place.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182807]I have a question that I should already know the answer to, but I'm not really sure. Or maybe just in denial.

What basic rights does one have walking outside in public with regards to privacy?

Can the police search you for no reason? Can they look at your phone? Can they just go into your pockets and wallet as they please?

I ask this because I stopped by the mansion in a taxi to pick up a friend. I got out, walked to the gate and before I could even ring the bell, I was confronted by two aggressive police officers who bombarded me with questions. I responded politely to every question. Meanwhile, one of the officers puts his hand in my pockets and pulls out everything I had..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Queens35;2182607]I got a message from one FB chica that I banged last trip that it's so slow because LOTS of chicas around and undercutting prices. Anybody get a sense of that?[/QUOTE]Just from demographics it is likely as Medellin is 53.3% female, so 6.6% more females than males, making for at least 200,000 more women in MED then men. (probably more, the last census in Medellin was in 2005) Then add in the desperate Venezuelan women showing up and it gets worse. (or better for us).

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Demographics.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2182607]I got a message from one FB chica that I banged last trip that it's so slow because LOTS of chicas around and undercutting prices. Anybody get a sense of that?[/QUOTE]That makes no sense. Lower prices mean higher demand, not less demand. Or are you saying that your particular girl is not making anything because her prices are too high, while everybody else is charging much less? Her dumb ass should stop trying to charge so much then. There is nothing special about her pussy. If she wants to make some money, she better get with the program.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182807]I ask this because I stopped by the mansion in a taxi to pick up a friend. I got out, walked to the gate and before I could even ring the bell, I was confronted by two aggressive police officers who bombarded me with questions. I responded politely to every question. Meanwhile, one of the officers puts his hand in my pockets and pulls out everything I had.[/QUOTE]Damn. I better stay away from that area. That kind of thing never happens downtown! (Couldn't resist.)

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182861]Damn. I better stay away from that area. That kind of thing never happens downtown! (Couldn't resist.)[/QUOTE]Not true, I got stopped and asked for ID, cursory search in both Centro and the Mayorista areas.

The cops were pretty cordial though.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2182864]Not true, I got stopped and asked for ID, cursory search in both Centro and the Mayorista areas.

The cops were pretty cordial though.[/QUOTE]I mean the going through your pockets part. I have been stopped and asked for passport in front of one of the casas as I have reported before.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182873]I mean the going through your pockets part. I have been stopped and asked for passport in front of one of the casas as I have reported before.[/QUOTE]Should I always carry my passport on me? Or will a photocopy suffice?

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182807]

But my question. Do I have to let the police search me? Don't they have to preface the search with some kind of justification? I really want to be prepared for this in the future! Liek maybe take out my phone and start recording because I really felt like I was at their mercy.
[/QUOTE]There's no such thing as rule of law in Colombia. Back in late 2016 I was stopped multiple times in El Poblado and even harassed for a bribe. I had no contraband and I never buy or do drugs in Colombia. You have no rights. Be polite and just do what they say. I wouldn't record shit because you're probably going to escalate the situation.

Some posters are going to say how great the cops are in Medellin. Don't believe them. There's one fat cop in El Poblado especially who goes around in a bike and harasses everyone angrily. Fuck him. Most of them are just looking for quick cash. At one point they were frisking everyone coming out of Parque Llleras on a particular street. I was told 5 k would have me skip the line and just go past. They're making their rent. Pigs.

Here at the airport in Rio Negro, flying to Miami.

Great time in Medellin!

Most of my time this trip was with my girlfriend, traveling about together, however, had a few days by myself to play.

El Centro was fun, my favorite place as well to play.

Met up with a couple of my favorite chicas out there, and met a couple newbies.

As long as you take precautions and aren't a dummy, you'll be good out there, IMO.

There was a large presence of police near Veracruz one day, wearing vests that said Investigators.

I asked one of the cops who appeared to be a boss type, why the large presence this day.

He told me that this was an area of prostitution and street crime, and that an extranjero was robbed and injured, but not killed, at knife point, by several girls he was with in one of the cheap motels there.

Interesting enough, he encouraged me to check out the girls, but to be careful, and advised me to be with only one at time.

I played naive to the game, LOL.

Anyway, I had fun and ran into no troubles.

I hit Fase Dos one night, mostly out of curiosity, and though I enjoyed the sites, I met no one worthy of 190 k pesos.

The hot ones I met were mostly bad attitude types IMO.

My best experience was with a girl I met at the Centro strip Club near Conejitas.

She was a cinnamon skin little spinner, very nice and energetic.

I paid the 50 k multa, took her to dinner on Juníand, then to a Motel for fun.

Great time for a few hours in the sack.

I gave her 100 k, plus taxi home, she was thrilled.

I checked out the Mayorista one night, hung out for an hour, saw nothing good, split.

Overall great trip!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2182906]Here at the airport in Rio Negro, flying to Miami.

Great time in Medellin!
I checked out the Mayorista one night, hung out for an hour, saw nothing good, split.

Overall great trip![/QUOTE]I'd like to hear more about the Mayorista. I understand its not a bad place, though it might look that way. What's your take on it?

[QUOTE=BeverlyLa1234;2182877]Should I always carry my passport on me? Or will a photocopy suffice?[/QUOTE]We were stopped by immigration police. They were interested in seeing our stamp to make sure we did not overstay. None of us had passports on us so they called the hotel since they copy everything when you check in. I would not walk around anywhere with my passport and risk losing it. I think in most countries they give you reasonable time to produce it if need be.

Sounds like you are on the right track. The places mentioned are the best choices of cases and the only ones that I am aware off that have a high number 10+ chicas at a time. The Facebook chicas are not escorts. They are regular girls that moonlight. Some are pros but from my experience they are regular girls. Try Lleras at night there will be plenty to choose from. Hide your stuff with them since you never know. I recommend to get into a whatasapp group that can help you with connecting with the surplus. There is several out there if I remember correctly. I haven't used them in a while.

Mansion 2 is a bit of an uphill hike most chicas will complaint and may not go by foot, just FYI.

Centro can be very dangerous specially at night.

If you stick to the Casas that you mention the "gringo" thing won't be an issue at all.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2182183]Many thanks to those who contribute to this valuable forum. I'm heading to Medellin with a friend next month for 4 nights and doing my homework, RTFF. I'm a middle aged gringo, conversational Spanish, my friend is originally from Colombia, both experienced mongers. We are staying at Mansion 2 (1 was booked) and we are short-time, high volume mongers, no GFE, Facebook girlfriends for us. Escorts aren't really our thing either but photoprepagos looks like a solid Hale Mary option.

For a 4 day trip, my plan was basically:

Loutron. I know it's an inconvenient clip joint, but got to try it at least once.

Energy. I figured this would be our go to spot.

New Life. Second "go to" spot.

False II.

Luna Linera.

Ejectiva & Maracaibo.

Mansion girls.

I'the like to checkout Mayorista though it looks like limited options when I explore it on Google maps. Parts of Centro I would be fine exploring in the daytime though the areas on Google maps that I see the highest volume of working girls, seem a bit sketchy as I can't really blend in. I'm not an easy target, but certainly an obvious one.

I guess my question is, since Energy and New Life seem to be racking up the poor quality reports as of late, what are some other quality casas we can hit? Doesn't need to be "top shelf" with 9's and 10's (rarely good in bed anyway) but I'm not looking for a glue sniffing tranny on De Griffe and 54th either. Has the talent moved elsewhere? What are some other midrange casas with a decent lineup, reasonable prices, and a gringo won't stick out like a sore thumb?

BTW, it really sucks the Medellin is the only map on here you can't access without a paid membership. It's not the $20 but us married guys can't risk the wife seeing a suspicious charge on our Visa statements.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

The loss of a passport is an expensive inconvenience. Depending on your travel schedule it can be a very very expensive inconvenience. That is as bad as it gets. The immigration police tend to perk up when a foreigner answers the standard "which hotel are you staying in" question with "I'm in an apartment". There is no front desk to call for passport information. I see no downside to carrying a copy of your passport photo page and your entry stamp. I only carry my passport when I am using it to cross a border. I haven't had police problems after presenting other ID. I've had people tell me they were detained when they couldn't produce a passport. It hasn't been my experience; I think there are two sides to every story and something more than lack of a passport has been at play. This is only my opinion. I once had to accompany a co-worker on a side trip to Bogotá so he could replace his stolen passport in time to catch our flight home. It bummed me out because I had to cancel all the weekend dates I had lined up in Medellin after a tough week of work. Now that was inconvenient.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182916]We were stopped by immigration police. They were interested in seeing our stamp to make sure we did not overstay. None of us had passports on us so they called the hotel since they copy everything when you check in. I would not walk around anywhere with my passport and risk losing it. I think in most countries they give you reasonable time to produce it if need be.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2182727]...I would start my day at New Life. Calle 56 #43-39. Most taxi drivers will know where it is. Just tell them la casa de chicas con la puerta azul. Scratch that. I'd start with late breakfast, early lunch at Delicias Al Natural Carrera 43 #55-35. Great cheap food. From there, turn left and walk to the corner, turn left on Calle 56 and just a little way down is New Life. Just go through the blue door. When you leave New Life, go back to Carrera 43 and go north to Calle 56. Go left and look for the red door. It's in the same place as New Life, just a block north. That's Aiffe, Calle 56 #43-27...[/QUOTE]JjBee62, you would have guys walking around in circles chasing their own tail trying to follow those directions. The address for Aiffe is Calle 57 #43-27. So when you leave New Life, go Cra 43 to CL 57. At least your red line on the map you included is correct. Good information in the rest of your post.

Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report!

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2182807]I have a question that I should already know the answer to, but I'm not really sure. Or maybe just in denial.

What basic rights does one have walking outside in public with regards to privacy?

Can the police search you for no reason? Can they look at your phone? Can they just go into your pockets and wallet as they please?

I ask this because I stopped by the mansion in a taxi to pick up a friend. I got out, walked to the gate and before I could even ring the bell, I was confronted by two aggressive police officers who bombarded me with questions. I responded politely to every question. Meanwhile, one of the officers puts his hand in my pockets and pulls out everything I had.

EXTREMELY Uncomfortable situation! Not to mention the cooperation the mansion doorman! I had to repeat at least 6 times, I was there to pick up a friend and even by the doorguy I was treated like some kind of criminal and liar. WTF.

Needless to say I will not be returning to the mansion any time soon!

But my question. Do I have to let the police search me? Don't they have to preface the search with some kind of justification? I really want to be prepared for this in the future! Liek maybe take out my phone and start recording because I really felt like I was at their mercy.

After a lot of drama, my friend came out and the door guy apologized. Her guess was the cops were looking for a reason to blackmail me.[/QUOTE]Are you 100% sure they were really cops? There have been stories of Colombianos impersonating cops to pressure tourists into paying them off. A couple years ago, I was leaving New Life and two dudes approached me saying they were police and I was doing something illegal inside. I didn't believe they were really cops so I just ignored them and kept walking, but I can see lots of guys not doing that.

I did some internet searching of casinos in Medellin and found 3, they all have terrible reviews.

Is casino gambling that bad and basically non-existing?

Connect in Miami unless you are willing to use Spirit or Jet Blue. Those airlines schedule flights between the American and Avianca arrival slots.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2182959]JjBee62, you would have guys walking around in circles chasing their own tail trying to follow those directions. The address for Aiffe is Calle 57 #43-27. So when you leave New Life, go Cra 43 to CL 57. At least your red line on the map you included is correct. Good information in the rest of your post.[/QUOTE]I missed the typo on that one.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?[/QUOTE]I just flew from Cartagena to Medellin on Avianca. Cost was approx. $80 USA, I bought the ticket online ahead of time at Avianca's Colombia based website. I read that just searching and going to their international website results in a gringo tax (higher price). If you google "Avianca" from abroad, you'll be directed to Avianca's international website. But if you simply correct the end of the URL into "en-co" so that the domain will be [URL]http://www.avianca.com/en-co/[/URL] This will allow you to book the internal flights in English, but get the Colombian prices.

In my case, to save having to fly back to CTG when leaving, I got a one way flight to CTG, and also one way back to USA When departing from MDE.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report![/QUOTE]A quick search shows a few 1 stop options to MDE from EWR, round trip from under $600 and less than 8 hours. If you want to fly to Bogota and then switch to a local airline to fly to Medellin you have a few choices. Viva Colombia is cheapest. It's their version of Spirit. They add on charges for everything. Most comfortable is Avianca. I've always had plenty of legroom on Avianca flights and I never have enough legroom.

100% sure? No. How could I be 100% sure?

I have been stopped in other parts of the city as well and asked to see my ID and to look in my backpack. Also happened a couple of times when getting on the metro.

In this particular situation, what really got me upset was that on top of the bombardment of questions, one of the cops was an A hole and literally stuck his hand in my pocket.

So I will ask again in a slightly different way, if anyone has a sure answer. Can one say "no" to a police search on the street?

[QUOTE=Combo;2182981]Are you 100% sure they were really cops? There have been stories of Colombianos impersonating cops to pressure tourists into paying them off. A couple years ago, I was leaving New Life and two dudes approached me saying they were police and I was doing something illegal inside. I didn't believe they were really cops so I just ignored them and kept walking, but I can see lots of guys not doing that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2183018]

In this particular situation, what really got me upset was that on top of the bombardment of questions, one of the cops was an A hole and literally stuck his hand in my pocket.

So I will ask again in a slightly different way, if anyone has a sure answer. Can one say "no" to a police search on the street?[/QUOTE]I would advise cooperating. They were looking for a bribe. In my experience they start all pissed off like that and then completely change demeanor. He was looking to frighten you into handing over some cash to leave you alone. In my case the cop said: "That's not your cell phone" and I showed him how I unlocked it with the fingerprint ID. That made his partner laugh.

You got a shakedown. That's all.

Thanks for the responses on the EWR to MDE question. I guess I need to look further for those under 8 hour 1-stop flights. All I saw was 9+ hours, many with overnight layovers.

While I'm here, can someone point me to a thread about hotels in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2182914]I'd like to hear more about the Mayorista. I understand its not a bad place, though it might look that way. What's your take on it?[/QUOTE]It's a safe enough area, lots of cops around as well.

The problem is the girls are not that good looking.

Mostly plain and chubby girls, and some old hags.

Used to be a great place, maybe 5 years ago or more.

The city, Itagui, did a cleanup and all the hot girls left, never came back LOL.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2183022]Thanks for the responses on the EWR to MDE question. I guess I need to look further for those under 8 hour 1-stop flights. All I saw was 9+ hours, many with overnight layovers.

While I'm here, can someone point me to a thread about hotels in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Click on the link that says "Colombia" at the top left and you will see a list of threads related to Colombia. There is a thread on hotels and apartments in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2182864]Not true, I got stopped and asked for ID, cursory search in both Centro and the Mayorista areas.

The cops were pretty cordial though.[/QUOTE]It was a joke B!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report![/QUOTE]There is a direct flight from JFK to MED via Avianca. I think it leaves on Thursdyas and Sundays or mondays.

BUT the season is starting up so prices are going to be higher.

You can take the EWR to MED with a change in Pananma Via United, The truth is Panama is great cause no customs to deal with and the terminal is right across from when you change plans. Rarely will you miss connecting.

You can do JFK to miami to med via american but sometimes the layover is long.

Also avianca does a JFK to Bogata to Med. It all depends on the day you leave.

STAY AWAY from SPIRIT at ALL cost. That is not an airline, it is a bus with wings. I delete it from all my searches.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2182906]Here at the airport in Rio Negro, flying to Miami.

Great time in Medellin!

Most of my time this trip was with my girlfriend, traveling about together, however, had a few days by myself to play.

El Centro was fun, my favorite place as well to play.

Met up with a couple of my favorite chicas out there, and met a couple newbies.

As long as you take precautions and aren't a dummy, you'll be good out there, IMO.

There was a large presence of police near Veracruz one day, wearing vests that said Investigators.

I asked one of the cops who appeared to be a boss type, why the large presence this day.

He told me that this was an area of prostitution and street crime, and that an extranjero was robbed and injured, but not killed, at knife point, by several girls he was with in one of the cheap motels there.

Interesting enough, he encouraged me to check out the girls, but to be careful, and advised me to be with only one at time.

I played naive to the game, LOL.

Anyway, I had fun and ran into no troubles.

I hit Fase Dos one night, mostly out of curiosity, and though I enjoyed the sites, I met no one worthy of 190 k pesos.

The hot ones I met were mostly bad attitude types IMO.

My best experience was with a girl I met at the Centro strip Club near Conejitas.

She was a cinnamon skin little spinner, very nice and energetic.

I paid the 50 k multa, took her to dinner on Junand, then to a Motel for fun.

Great time for a few hours in the sack.

I gave her 100 k, plus taxi home, she was thrilled.

I checked out the Mayorista one night, hung out for an hour, saw nothing good, split.

Overall great trip![/QUOTE]A quick question on mayorista, did the law allow the tables back on the sidewalks? A few months back, the last time I was there all the tables were gone.

Thanks,

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2183033]A quick question on mayorista, did the law allow the tables back on the sidewalks? A few months back, the last time I was there all the tables were gone.

Thanks,

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]They allow the tables out now, but until a certain time at night.

I think at midnight or 1 am they have to put the table and chairs away.

Seems so dumb to me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182873]I mean the going through your pockets part. I have been stopped and asked for passport in front of one of the casas as I have reported before.[/QUOTE]Oh sorry man, I just can't recall all of your past 7500 plus posts, LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182856]That makes no sense. Lower prices mean higher demand, not less demand. Or are you saying that your particular girl is not making anything because her prices are too high, while everybody else is charging much less? Her dumb ass should stop trying to charge so much then. There is nothing special about her pussy. If she wants to make some money, she better get with the program.[/QUOTE]You're using the law of supply and demand in relation to puta-nomics?

Let me try to explain it. The chica charges the regular 150 k or 170 k now. But chicas from the barrio and Venezuelans charge 100 k or even less which undercuts the regular 150 k prices.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report![/QUOTE]You have tons of options. There is a nonstop flight from JFK on Avianca if that's what you want. But it's going to cost $800+.

Getting to JFK is a bit of a pain but I wouldn't call it "super hassle".

Book a complete ticket, you won't save any money by booking separately or by waiting till you get to Bogota. The flights are pretty full, you may have to bus it if you wait.

Use Google Flights to find flights.

You have United / Copa, American, Avianca, Jet Blue, Spirit, Delta to choose from.

BTW-If you are looking for cheap, forget it now, it's going to cost at least $600-700. Maybe you can get lucky and catch a promo fare.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2182183]BTW, it really sucks the Medellin is the only map on here you can't access without a paid membership. It's not the $20 but us married guys can't risk the wife seeing a suspicious charge on our Visa statements.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You can buy a prepaid VISA or MC and use that. But, its not like ISG is going to bill you with some description like "mongering membership".

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2183032]You can do JFK to miami to med via american but sometimes the layover is long.
STAY AWAY from SPIRIT at ALL cost. That is not an airline, it is a bus with wings. I delete it from all my searches.[/QUOTE]If you are going to change airlines in MIA you might as well save money and fly MIA to MED on Viva Colombia, they are the cheapest. I flew round trip for $220 last year, MIA MED.

[URL]https://vivaair.com/en-co[/URL]

And while Spirit is not the greatest airline, they have gotten me there and back successfully twice now from Tampa Ft Lauderdale MED for $300 to $400. For $200 less then American I can handle the 3-1/2 HR flight.

[URL]https://www.spirit.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182856]That makes no sense. Lower prices mean higher demand, not less demand. Or are you saying that your particular girl is not making anything because her prices are too high, while everybody else is charging much less? Her dumb ass should stop trying to charge so much then. There is nothing special about her pussy. If she wants to make some money, she better get with the program.[/QUOTE]For a guy who claims to be living in Pattaya for the past 8 years, I would have thought you were familiar with the Thai concept of raising prices to compensate for lower sales volume during periods of slow business. Thus it should be a familiar economic paradox for you.

Guess what? These places are called underdeveloped nations for a reason, and one of those reasons is that they lack business acumen that is standard in the developing world. Someone who is truly an international denizen should be familiar with that.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2179106]My redhead sweetie I met on SeekingArrangements whose number I have given to a few of you is no longer a redhead. Not looking too bad in black though:[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jooks;2182972]Hi, long-time member who hasn't traveled for a long time to Colombia and could use some advice.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month. I'm trying to make reservations from EWR and have run into a problem. There are no direct flights and 1-stop flights seem to take forever. JFK would be a better option but it's a super hassle to get to. I'm considering flying to Bogota and from there, Medellin. Does that seem like a good option, time-wise and from an economic standpoint? If so, should I wait to get to BOG to book a flight to MDE? What airlines is recommended. Or is there another recommendation?

Thank you and I promise a full report![/QUOTE]I just booked a trip from EWR to MDE and had the same issue. My solution was Google flights. In their search you can see filters like stops, price, times, etc. At the end there is a tab that says "more" Click on that and you can change flight duration time, put it to 10 hours, you will now be able to play with the dates and only see results for trips with a total of less than 10 hour duration, the average is about 8 hours.

LOL well let me tell you there are wayyy more than 3 casinos in Medellin. If I had to attempt to make an educated guess I would say there's probably closer to 3,000 than 3 casinos. You can find them on damn near every block but a lot of them are slots only. My Spanish in very basic but I've always had fun at them. My 2 favorites are rio sur in Santa Fe, I believe that's the name it's very close to centro commercial Santa Fe. And the other was close to the San Diego show bar strip club. I have always had real good luck playing roulette and black jack at the tables, but shit luck on slots. Anyways the minimum is dirt cheap in pesos so have some fun and check it out.

[QUOTE=Retired22;2182986]I did some internet searching of casinos in Medellin and found 3, they all have terrible reviews.

Is casino gambling that bad and basically non-existing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2182914]I'd like to hear more about the Mayorista. I understand its not a bad place, though it might look that way. What's your take on it?[/QUOTE]Mayorista isn't a bad place, it's just a very limited selection. It's only 1 side of the street for 1 block. It has some potential. There are several reasonable hotels in the area. It's just a short walk from the metro Ayura station. The food court at the Mayorista center has some great cheap food and there's lots of good hole-in-the-wall restaurants scattered around. It's also a great place to go clothes shopping. Think El Centro on a smaller scale. There are plenty of barbershops and pool halls, if you're looking for either.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;2183100]LOL well let me tell you there are way more than 3 casinos in Medellin. If I had to attempt to make an educated guess I would say there's probably closer to 3,000 than 3 casinos. You can find them on damn near every block but a lot of them are slots only. My Spanish is very basic but I've always had fun at them. My 2 favorites are Rio sur in Santa Fe, I believe that's the name it's very close to Centro commercial Santa Fe. And the other was close to the San Diego show bar strip club. I have always had real good luck playing roulette and blackjack at the tables, but shit luck on slots. Anyways the minimum is dirt cheap in pesos so have some fun and check it out.[/QUOTE]Thanks InIN, my search was a rookie mistake I guess, the casinos must not do a lot of web business as far as paying to list their sites. Thanks for your suggestion, I'm a blackjack player usually 2-3 times a year in Vegas.

[QUOTE=Retired22;2182986]I did some internet searching of casinos in Medellin and found 3, they all have terrible reviews.

Is casino gambling that bad and basically non-existing?[/QUOTE]They're not terrible. There the ones south El Poblado (Casino San Fernando, Casino Medellin etc.) are alright but they are not giant casinos. 3-5 tables, with usually 2 tables of blackjack. I know Casino Medellin sometimes has parties at night and chicas come out but only because a chica I know went. It was some anniversary for the casino.

Don't expect to pick up hookers in casinos. I didn't see any.

I recently found a small boutique, reasonably priced hotel / party house on Carrera 36 that is girl friendly. I never used to stay at hotels and used to rent on airbnb but more and more private apartments are having issues and it is getting harder to find cool apartments with one or two rooms and larger ones are charging way too much.

It is a small 11 room boutique casa / hotel and they have a gaint jacuzzi for larger groups. I stayed solo in one of the outside rooms but met and chatted with a party group that was staying inside and rented part of the It is called Viktory Boutique. It is on Cr 36,5-6 doors down from Dominoes, on the same side as Dominoes.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010819063229[/URL]

The best part is this. My facebook contacts needed an update. The owner added me as a "friend" once I had a confirmed booking and the hotel page had lot of beautiful friends. Over 500 I think. He he.

I will post phone number in hotel section....ask me if you have any questions.

I just arrived in Medellin on Spirit from Ft. Lauderdale. Early!

At any rate, I was talking to one of the flight attendants who I have seen before on previous flights. He told me that Spirit was adding a direct from Orlando to Bogota daily as well as an Orlando to Medellin twice a week. The medellin route is supposed to be announced later this week. There is a God! I hope this is true. I got similar info on Jet Blue a few years ago, but they never pulled the trigger.

The flight attendance speculates that once Spirits starts going direct to Medellin, Jet Blue will follow. Jet Blue already flies direct from Orlando to BGT.

Great news for those of us in north and central Florida!

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2183051]You can buy a prepaid VISA or MC and use that. But, its not like ISG is going to bill you with some description like "mongering membership".[/QUOTE]One can also look up virtual credit cards. They work with ISG. That's how I bought mine.

No more stops in Ft. Lauderdale is absolute heaven! Thanks for this info! This will also likely created cheaper flights on JetBlue to Bogota and Medellin. A double win!!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2183357]
At any rate, I was talking to one of the flight attendants who I have seen before on previous flights. He told me that Spirit was adding a direct from Orlando to Bogota daily as well as an Orlando to Medellin twice a week. The medellin route is supposed to be announced later this week. There is a God! I hope this is true. I got similar info on Jet Blue a few years ago, but they never pulled the trigger.

The flight attendance speculates that once Spirits starts going direct to Medellin, Jet Blue will follow. Jet Blue already flies direct from Orlando to BGT.

Great news for those of us in north and central Florida![/QUOTE]

Fellas,

Got my ticket to Colombia for July and looking forward to reporting back. I am very excited!

A few questions please.

1) If Bogota is so much bigger and I have read in many places is a better place than Medellin for mongering why is this forum so much more active than the Bogota one?

2) There is a great Bogota FAQ. Is there an equivalent for Medellin?

3) I am going with mongering friend we planned to get an Airbnb but many Medellin Airbnbs say no guests or no turismo sexual in the rules and I have read that sometimes the owner is close by. Of course we would choose 4 person occupancy because we want to have chicas over so which makes it easier to have girls over an Airbnb that doesn't explicit restrictions or a hotel or only a explicitly girl friendly hotel?

4) With so many options for mongering is worth it to make a social media list of potential girls ahead of time? If so how does one find or add these girls having no connections and being in the USA?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2183434]1) If Bogota is so much bigger and I have read in many places is a better place than Medellin for mongering why is this forum so much more active than the Bogota one?[/QUOTE]For me being a sea level dweller I don't fancy trying to do 3 chicks a day at 10,000 ft plus it gets cold there compared to MED, this week it is highs of 61 f and lows of 49 f. Meanwhile MED will be 81/61. Also MED is 3 million+ people, Bogota is 6 million+.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2183434]4) With so many options for mongering is worth it to make a social media list of potential girls ahead of time? If so how does one find or add these girls having no connections and being in the USA?[/QUOTE]I really don't think you have too, I don't, between Casa's & strip clubs and online escorts and street girls you should have your pick out of 1,000+ women a day.

You might find some hotter ones on FB but they will know it and charge a lot more. But you can google Face Book on the MED trip report and gets some ones guys have posted. Then you add their hot friends and so on.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2183434]1) If Bogota is so much bigger and I have read in many places is a better place than Medellin for mongering why is this forum so much more active than the Bogota one?
2) There is a great Bogota FAQ. Is there an equivalent for Medellin?
3) I am going with mongering friend we planned to get an Airbnb but many Medellin Airbnbs say no guests or no turismo sexual in the rules and I have read that sometimes the owner is close by. Of course we would choose 4 person occupancy because we want to have chicas over so which makes it easier to have girls over an Airbnb that doesn't explicit restrictions or a hotel or only a explicitly girl friendly hotel?
4) With so many options for mongering is worth it to make a social media list of potential girls ahead of time? If so how does one find or add these girls having no connections and being in the USA?.[/QUOTE]1. Probably more expats in Medellin than in Bogota. Medellin is "easier living" than Bogota. Better weather, cheaper costs, better aesthetics. Medellin has about 3.7 million people; Bogota has about 10 million. Law of averages: more people, more hoes needed. Although I would say there are probably more "available" girls in Medellin, they just don't work out of venues. They're more freelancers / independents.

2. Scroll all the way down on the Colombia Thread and go to the Medellin Chica List. That's 50% of what you need.

3. As long as you sign up for 2 guests for each reservation (assuming you and your friend will have separate rooms), most hotels will allow you to bring a guest. Call ahead to find out. I prefer AirBnB, but as a rookie, you need the protection of a Hotel so you don't get a girl in there that will rip you off.

4. Yes. FaceBook game is big in Medellin. Go to FaceBook, search Medellin. Look for girls with photos in sexy poses. Message them: Hola, como estas? Eres muy hermosa. (she'll say thanks and ask how you are, then you say) Bien! Gracias. Voy a Medellin pronto de Bogota. (They'll say nice, when will you be here, where are you staying, is it your first time, other dumbass questions) Ignore them all, just say: Buscando conocer amigas why companeras. (They'll say Rico, heart eyes emoji, Yooooo or some other some shit). If they're still responding at this point, they'll ask when you want to meet. Up to you at that point. If price comes up, start at 150 mil pesos (NOT 150 dollars). They will say that's too little. Tell them, okay, sorry to bother you. Don't go above 200 for a short time 1-2 hours. As a rookie, don't do overnights. In fact, consider staying at that Mansion place. You'll be spoon fed by the other guys there. Facebook game is the other 50% of mongering in Medellin.

I was only able to stay in Medellin 2 days, am back home now but not before I had my little chocolate girl. After my session with Camila, BTW she is going by Paola now, these girls change their name very often. I went out to eat, scope out the girls and get some beers, got some rum from the supermarket and headed back to the hotel, when I got back a had some messages from this skinny black girl that I saw in [URL]photoprepago.com[/URL] she had taken the ad down but I had messaged her and she knew I was going to be in Medellin that day, we arranged for her to come by in an hour. Two hours later I get a call from the reception desk that she was there, I walk down pay her taxi and we walk to my room, she is truly nervous I can hear it in her voice, this girl is not very pretty but has a nice skinny body round ass and long slim legs with a nice thigh gap, she was wearing shorts so I can see a nice camel toe between her legs, I let her walk up the stairs, ahead of me so I can enjoy the view from behind, that ass looks nice and tight. We get to the room sit on the bed and offer her some rum, we drink a few shots, start talking and get acquainted. She starts to loosen up, and I kiss her slow at first, run my hands between her legs, she gets up and gets undressed, I do the same my dick is rock hard. She strokes me sits me down on the bed and gives me head, after a few minutes she gets up turns down the lights and gets the rubber, puts it on JR and gets on top of me she is dripping wet, I feel her pussy juice just dripping and getting the bed wet, she is not very tight but not lose either, I tell her to lay on her back I want to see her pussy up close, she is self conscious about some baby damage on her tummy, she has a 2 year old daughter, but is hardly noticeable, she has a big clit and is hard too, tastes so sweet, I lick and suck till she begins to moan and tremble then grabs my head against her pussy and moves her hips up and down rubbing my face as she orgasms, my whole face is soaked. I stand on the floor and pull her toward the end of the bed and slam my dick as hard and deep as I can taking time between each stroke so I don't cum yet. I get her doggy, lick her pussy and asshole for a little bit she is very sensitive now, ram her and go as fast and deep as I can till I cum, I hold my dick in her pussy for a few minutes just enjoying the view. We sit on the bed she cleans me up and washes herself. Drink some more rum, decide to order something to eat, I fuck her doggy one more time before room service gets there, order some beers for our dinner. We put on some music, talk for a while I lay on my back she is on her side talking and stroking my dick, JR decides he is ready for another round, so she gets the rubber and gets on top riding me hard, changes to reverse cowgirl, all I see is my dick getting in and out of this beautiful black hole with a pink middle and her round ass bouncing up and down, it feels so good I grab her hips and start meeting her strokes till we both cum really hard. We lay there catching our breath, she then gets up showers and gets dressed, she was with me 3 hours, we had agreed on 2 at 100 k x hour, but because I paid her cab and bought dinner she only asked for the 200 K we had agreed to. She leaves and after an hour she texts me thanking me for a wonderful time. I told her to come back the next day and she got someone to babysit and showed up around 11 am, stayed 3 hours again I gave her 200 K + taxi fare. She left very happy and I was very satisfied and bone dry.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2183434]Fellas,

Got my ticket to Colombia for July and looking forward to reporting back. I am very excited!

A few questions please.

1) If Bogota is so much bigger and I have read in many places is a better place than Medellin for mongering why is this forum so much more active than the Bogota one?

2) There is a great Bogota FAQ. Is there an equivalent for Medellin?

3) I am going with mongering friend we planned to get an Airbnb but many Medellin Airbnbs say no guests or no turismo sexual in the rules and I have read that sometimes the owner is close by. Of course we would choose 4 person occupancy because we want to have chicas over so which makes it easier to have girls over an Airbnb that doesn't explicit restrictions or a hotel or only a explicitly girl friendly hotel?

4) With so many options for mongering is worth it to make a social media list of potential girls ahead of time? If so how does one find or add these girls having no connections and being in the USA?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey Fossil!

My guess would only be that Bogota is 8000 ft+. That is getting kinda ridiculous. Add to that bunch of these foggies round here popping Cialis and Viagra and you could definitely wind up uncomfortable. At least that's my thinking, LOL. Medellin is at 5000 ft and is much more manageable, IMO. That is my single biggest reason for choosing MDE as my next shagcation spot. I can't speak to the quantities and prices of putas in Bogota yet cause I haven't researched it yet but MDE seems to be about 50 k to 150 k for some great chicas. Even if its nominally cheaper in either local that altitude in Bogota is kinda intimidating.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2183357]I just arrived in Medellin on Spirit from Ft. Lauderdale. Early!

At any rate, I was talking to one of the flight attendants who I have seen before on previous flights. He told me that Spirit was adding a direct from Orlando to Bogota daily as well as an Orlando to Medellin twice a week. The medellin route is supposed to be announced later this week. There is a God! I hope this is true. I got similar info on Jet Blue a few years ago, but they never pulled the trigger.

The flight attendance speculates that once Spirits starts going direct to Medellin, Jet Blue will follow. Jet Blue already flies direct from Orlando to BGT.

Great news for those of us in north and central Florida![/QUOTE]I'm on the west coast USA and I think I fuck up no buying my ticket a couple weeks ago. I was planning on going in Sep-Nov and 2 weeks ago the prices were 550 $ but almost overnight they shot up to 750. I'm almost like fuck that and go to Thailand for that price (I've never been to Asia but shagged my fair share of Latinas already). I may just wait till after summer to buy tickets cause it seems tickets across the board have gone up even into next year just because we are currently in higher season. At 750 $ to get to MDE its getting nuts, I shoulda stayed in Miami I guess.

[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2183645]I'm on the west coast USA and I think I fuck up no buying my ticket a couple weeks ago. I was planning on going in Sep-Nov and 2 weeks ago the prices were 550 $ but almost overnight they shot up to 750.[/QUOTE]The prices teeter-totter all the time. Look on a Tuesday night at 2 am and see what you come up with. Would be great if you could get out here to Asia though. They don't always look like the picture most people have in their heads!

[QUOTE=JeraldoRivera;2183645]I'm on the west coast USA and I think I fuck up no buying my ticket a couple weeks ago. I was planning on going in Sep-Nov and 2 weeks ago the prices were 550 $ but almost overnight they shot up to 750. I'm almost like fuck that and go to Thailand for that price (I've never been to Asia but shagged my fair share of Latinas already). I may just wait till after summer to buy tickets cause it seems tickets across the board have gone up even into next year just because we are currently in higher season. At 750 $ to get to MDE its getting nuts, I shoulda stayed in Miami I guess.[/QUOTE]I just got on KAYAK flights search and found numerous flights from San Fran. To Medellin (RT) in September anywhere from $480-$550. Check that site, they always have the lowest fares with different airlines.

If you look at flights on the same booking site multiple times from the same computer the prices go up each time.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;2183732]I just got on KAYAK flights search and found numerous flights from San Fran. To Medellin (RT) in September anywhere from $480-$550. Check that site, they always have the lowest fares with different airlines.[/QUOTE]When I was living in SF I would Flickr from SFO to MDE around 550 +-.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2182727]I would take Energy off your list. In fact, for a 4 day trip, for high volume mongers I'd scrap most of your list. You're going to waste time going out to Energy.

I would start my day at New Life. Calle 56 #43-39. Most taxi drivers will know where it is. Just tell them la casa de chicas con la puerta azul. Scratch that. I'd start with late breakfast, early lunch at Delicias Al Natural Carrera 43 #55-35. Great cheap food. From there, turn left and walk to the corner, turn left on Calle 56 and just a little way down is New Life. Just go through the blue door. When you leave New Life, go back to Carrera 43 and go north to Calle 56. Go left and look for the red door. It's in the same place as New Life, just a block north. That's Aiffe, Calle 56 #43-27..[/QUOTE]Many thanks for all the replies and advice. I admit the directions are a bit confusing but I'm following your directions on google maps street view to get acquainted with the surroundings. I'm siked for this trip and will definitely post a detailed trip review on my return.

[QUOTE=Xxnegrito;2183482]nice thigh gap[/QUOTE]That is my idea of an awesome booty. You all can have that big thick sloppy azz you all call "curvy" or "bootylicious, I'll take the tight thigh gap 24/7!

Nice Pull Xx!

El Mechanico.

Damn! If you are looking for a girl with a big naturale ass with tiny tiny hip then Lorena is your girl.

She's 25 but looks super young like 19. Her face is sort of like a latina Emma Stone but has some moles on her so its not like THAT amazing but she is still cute. She wears like converse sneakers and a skirt and is very unasuming. You would never peg her to be a prepago.

She had an apartment she used to work out of in Floretsa but it got shut down. She does outcall for 150 with 30 K for oral naturale. TRUST me the oral naturale is worth it. Her mouth if like silk and and is really into it. She is really passionate and into DFK. But also there needs to be a vibe. She is educated and also enjoys the talking etc. Her english is passable but overall coversational enough.

She has. TINY pussy that contrast with her MASSIVE ass and tiny hips makes for an amazing session.

Her tits are small and naturale but she has cute nipples. I would say she is like Ashylnn brooke bodytype but without the implants and a little bit taller.

She made me cum twice in a session which is somethign I haven't done in a minute.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2184064]Damn! If you are looking for a girl with a big naturale ass with tiny tiny hip then Lorena is your girl.

She's 25 but looks super young like 19. Her face is sort of like a latina Emma Stone but has some moles on her so its not like THAT amazing but she is still cute. She wears like converse sneakers and a skirt and is very unasuming. You would never peg her to be a prepago.

She had an apartment she used to work out of in Floretsa but it got shut down. She does outcall for 150 with 30 K for oral naturale. TRUST me the oral naturale is worth it. Her mouth if like silk and and is really into it. She is really passionate and into DFK. But also there needs to be a vibe. She is educated and also enjoys the talking etc. Her english is passable but overall coversational enough.[/QUOTE]Tried to PM you for Lorena's contact info but your Incoming Message box is full. Please delete a few messages so you can receive and PM me. Please!

[QUOTE=Kickboxer151;2184175]Tried to PM you for Lorena's contact info but your Incoming Message box is full. Please delete a few messages so you can receive and PM me. Please![/QUOTE]Me too! I will be back in July.

[QUOTE=Kickboxer151;2184175]Tried to PM you for Lorena's contact info but your Incoming Message box is full. Please delete a few messages so you can receive and PM me. Please![/QUOTE]I cleared it out.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2183481]3. As long as you sign up for 2 guests for each reservation (assuming you and your friend will have separate rooms), most hotels will allow you to bring a guest. Call ahead to find out. I prefer AirBnB, but as a rookie, you need the protection of a Hotel so you don't get a girl in there that will rip you off.
[/QUOTE]Wow great info!

I am only a rookie too Colombia, haha.

I would prefer Airbnb too, I am going to request 4 person occupancy with two rooms. Is there anything too look for in particular to reserve to an airbnb which won't have owners or a door man who will hassle me for bringing random girls over? I heard some owners live close by and everyone has to go through the doorman even at airbnbs. Have you ever had an issue like this?

Hey guys,

I've read some quotes for 65 k for 30 minutes at energy. Today I went and was quoted 125 k for 30 minutes. Did I get overcharged? My Spanish is limited and I look like a foreigner.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2184556]I would prefer Airbnb too, I am going to request 4 person occupancy with two rooms. Is there anything too look for in particular to reserve to an airbnb which won't have owners or a door man who will hassle me for bringing random girls over? I heard some owners live close by and everyone has to go through the doorman even at airbnbs. Have you ever had an issue like this?[/QUOTE]You heard pretty much correctly. It's not so much of the owners living nearby, it's neighbors (usually nosy old ladies) complaining. I've had that in three airbnb's. There are some apartment buildings with airbnb units that have a front desk like a hotel. They check all the ladies ID's and make copies.

You need to read the complete listings on airbnb. Some will be plain and say no prostitutes allowed. Others will say no sex tourism. Some will say only people listed on the registration are allowed in the apartment. In the listing, they will say that any violation of the rules will cause an immediate eviction and no refund. If the listing doesn't say anything about visitors, send a message to the owner, or agent, and ask if visitors are allowed.

You are better off if you can find a building with almost all short-term renters. Some listings will say that locals and families live in the building. That's a red flag, so stay away.

[QUOTE=Jimbo9955;2184904]Hey guys,

I've read some quotes for 65 k for 30 minutes at energy. Today I went and was quoted 125 k for 30 minutes. Did I get overcharged? My Spanish is limited and I look like a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Energy is one of the few places ever mentioned on ISG that has a real price list online. [URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html[/URL].

125 k is correct. For the full hour is only 150 k, same as it was when I visited two years ago. For an additional $8 USD, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want twice the time with a young Colombian lady.

That doesn't sound too far off the mark. I think they had a recent price increase. How were the girls?

[QUOTE=Jimbo9955;2184904]Hey guys,

I've read some quotes for 65 k for 30 minutes at energy. Today I went and was quoted 125 k for 30 minutes. Did I get overcharged? My Spanish is limited and I look like a foreigner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185176]That doesn't sound too far off the mark. I think they had a recent price increase. How were the girls?[/QUOTE]I was there in April. Nice place with large rooms. Girls were better looking then other places. For the price I would rather go to NewLife or some of the other casas. Service I got was ok but nothing spectacular. I would go there again if I were near and tight on time Otherwise my FB contacts are more fun.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185176]That doesn't sound too far off the mark. I think they had a recent price increase. How were the girls?[/QUOTE]I swear it was the same as when I visited in April of 2016. I paid 150 k plus an additional 15 k for the double Scotch I ordered. There was no reason to pay for 30 minutes, unless you were planning on blowing your load in less than 30 minutes and then you felt so disgusted with yourself afterwards that you needed to split.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2185261]I was there in April. Nice place with large rooms. Girls were better looking then other places. For the price I would rather go to NewLife or some of the other casas. Service I got was ok but nothing spectacular. I would go there again if I were near and tight on time Otherwise my FB contacts are more fun.[/QUOTE]Good points there. But, I went to Energy twice, and recommend it for the experience. You are treated more like a VIP there than a trick. The girls actually attempt a half ass massage and go through the ritual of giving you a luxury shower before and after the physical contact, as opposed a mere hygienic oriented wash down you get before and after the deed at the cheap casas. I don't think there was even a shower at Yakuza, or at least I wasn't offered one. The room at Yakuza was just a cheaply constructed box, with a mattress on the flow and no ventilation, which made it stuffy. It was fun but that did I actually needed a shower immediately afterwards.

So, sometimes you get what you pay for. And I would guess your FB contacts, which I envy, are probably a better experience and value than anything else.

I feel the same way. If you are going to pay that much you are better off with facebook. I don't personally like waiting around for facebook girls to decide to show up. I think that time is better spent building up a group of contacts who are reliable. Energy girls are generally nicer looking and always better dressed and in better rooms than Centro casa girls, but not three times better. I'm amazed how facebook girls are routinely collecting 150 K and up place whatever other fees they talk guys into paying (taxi and other bullshit). They have their market and besides they have plastic surgeon bills to pay. LOL!

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2185261]I was there in April. Nice place with large rooms. Girls were better looking then other places. For the price I would rather go to NewLife or some of the other casas. Service I got was ok but nothing spectacular. I would go there again if I were near and tight on time Otherwise my FB contacts are more fun.[/QUOTE]

That $8 up charge and time limit is only enforced at prime time that I've noticed. When they are short on girls and heavy on punters (late in the week 3 pm or later) they will enforce the time. I guess it's worth it to enjoy the shower, sheets and larger room. You will have to pay if you want that second pop.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2185075]Energy is one of the few places ever mentioned on ISG that has a real price list online. [URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html[/URL].

125 k is correct. For the full hour is only 150 k, same as it was when I visited two years ago. For an additional $8 USD, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want twice the time with a young Colombian lady.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185284]That $8 up charge and time limit is only enforced at prime time that I've noticed. When they are short on girls and heavy on punters (late in the week 3 pm or later) they will enforce the time. I guess it's worth it to enjoy the shower, sheets and larger room. You will have to pay if you want that second pop.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the 25000 COP difference between half an hour session and a whole hour. That's convents to around $8 USD. I've never heard of any $8 upcharge at Energy and both times I was there (in the morning and late in the evening) I was the only punter in sight.

Ok, fellas, new to Colombia (not first time there but first time single).

So, I guess Medellin is the capitol city when it comes to chicas, - BUT where are the best places to meet girls in Bogota?

CAsas? Clubs? Oniine?

Any specifics? Names? Addresses? Specific casas or clubs?

The more info the more I would appreciate it -and I will report back.

Any help would be great. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2185075]Energy is one of the few places ever mentioned on ISG that has a real price list online. [URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html[/URL].

125 k is correct. For the full hour is only 150 k, same as it was when I visited two years ago. For an additional $8 USD, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want twice the time with a young Colombian lady.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I went again tonight- it was 200 k for 2 shots (would've definitely jumped on the 2 shots for 150 k). There are definitely a couple good ones- service is nothing special though.

Hi guys,

I've been to the once before. Last November had a blast. Could anyone here point me in the direction of a nice three bedroom apartment, Laureles area, girl friendly of course. I'm going for two months in November.

OK, so 200 k for 2 shots is silly. Even sillier is $150 K for one shot + chit chat and time killing. 125 K for one shot + less chit chat and time killing makes the most sense to me. You can get Luna Lunera for a little less, $110 K as of a couple of months ago.

[QUOTE=Jimbo9955;2185325]Thanks for the info! I went again tonight- it was 200 k for 2 shots (would've definitely jumped on the 2 shots for 150 k). There are definitely a couple good ones- service is nothing special though.[/QUOTE]

I was referring to the same thing. The upcharge is for the so-called "whole hour". When it's not busy they don't push you out because you didn't pay for an hour. Notice that they want $200 k for two shots. So this is the part that confuses me. If I don't get two shots why would I pay for the "whole hour"? Actually it doesn't confuse me, it's the reason I don't pay it.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2185299]I was referring to the 25000 COP difference between half an hour session and a whole hour. That's convents to around $8 USD. I've never heard of any $8 upcharge at Energy and both times I was there (in the morning and late in the evening) I was the only punter in sight.[/QUOTE]

Yakuza has no showers. You are better off taking the girl to a nearby love hotel for an extra $10 or so for the room. Yakuza won't charge to take the girl out.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2185269]Good points there. But, I went to Energy twice, and recommend it for the experience. You are treated more like a VIP there than a trick. The girls actually attempt a half ass massage and go through the ritual of giving you a luxury shower before and after the physical contact, as opposed a mere hygienic oriented wash down you get before and after the deed at the cheap casas. I don't think there was even a shower at Yakuza, or at least I wasn't offered one. The room at Yakuza was just a cheaply constructed box, with a mattress on the flow and no ventilation, which made it stuffy. It was fun but that did I actually needed a shower immediately afterwards.

So, sometimes you get what you pay for. And I would guess your FB contacts, which I envy, are probably a better experience and value than anything else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185281]I feel the same way. If you are going to pay that much you are better off with facebook. I don't personally like waiting around for facebook girls to decide to show up. I think that time is better spent building up a group of contacts who are reliable. Energy girls are generally nicer looking and always better dressed and in better rooms than Centro casa girls, but not three times better. I'm amazed how facebook girls are routinely collecting 150 K and up place whatever other fees they talk guys into paying (taxi and other bullshit). They have their market and besides they have plastic surgeon bills to pay. LOL![/QUOTE]It is all about building relationships like anything else in life. FB girls will try to get whatever they think they can get away with. Frankly, I don't blame then to try.

I have a few contacts that will spend the night with me for what some here pay here for 1 pop alone.

Most of these girls are single moms trying to make ends meet. If you have good rapport with them, they will show you a good time and want you to see them and not someone else.

Booked a last minute trip to MDE about a week ago. Arrived at 10:45 pm last night. Lucky me, my luggage was the first one on the belt! Breezed through customs and immigration like a VIP LOL. Went outside and looked for a taxi, guy tells me 70 K. Wanted to try something cheaper so I took the colectivo taxi for only 17.5 K. Only had to wait about 5 minutes to fill up the 4 passengers. This was a great option because there was a beautiful girl sitting next to me and every time the taxi curved through the hills, she kind of leaned on me and my shoulders and I felt her tits and my hips were feeling her ass.

I had to book a room at the Hampton in Poblado because the Mansion was booked for Saturday night. I am however booked for the rest of my nights at M2. Arrived at the hotel, reception is on the 14th floor so I think getting a chica in here wouldn't be too hard. Checked in, took a shower and went outside to hail a taxi. I asked the driver to take me to San Diego. As we arrived, dammit it was closed. I said OK take me to Fase 2. Same crap! Dammit, closed. Man this election is starting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off. I told him screw it, take me to Mayorista, Off we went, when I arrived there was about 20 girls waiting to be picked up. I tried to make eye contact with a hot blond with nice naturals and an incredible ass. She wouldn't even look back. Forget that, I know better, on to the next. As I was walking around this really pretty chick starts telling we what she can do to me and man I'm getting a great vibe from her. She tells me how she going to lick me up and down. All this talk is getting me hard, she grabs my dick and I ask her how much, she says 30 k for half an hour plus the room fees. I tell her I want oro natural and don't even think about a CBJ. She agrees. Off we go! Into the room, she starts the BBBJ and man I'm feeling great! She gets on top and starts a camel to slide and proceeds to try to get me in her Bareback. She got down about 1/4 of the way and I stopped her immediately. Hell no, no BB for me no thanks. Put on a rubber an man can this chick grind. I lost it in about 4 minutes. Got her number and she said she would love a repeat. LOL, who wouldn't for a 4 minute session! I was backed up for a while. Got back to my room, took a shower and crashed. Wake up this morning, go up to the 14th floor for included breakfast and sit outside on the terrace. What a great view. Man what an incredibly nice hotel this is! Definitely recommend this place. Well, going to pack up soon and try to check in at the M2.

This election day sucks! Anyone know of any options casa options that will be available today?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185505]Yakuza has no showers. You are better off taking the girl to a nearby love hotel for an extra $10 or so for the room. Yakuza won't charge to take the girl out.[/QUOTE]I was there a couple of years ago and they had one shower in the back in one bathroom area. There was a chica there taking a shit as I washed my junk.

So yeah. Short time hotel.

I was in Mde last November and fell in love with it. The women are so welcoming. Anyway most of my whoring was done at day time. I visited new life quite a lot and meet plenty on tinder. My first night was Halloween and I meet this Venezuelan in a bar. We exchanged numbers and I meet her for a night soon after. She was a stunner six foot breast implants and an ass from the God's. I can't for the life of me remember what I paid her but I went back two or three times with her. Brilliant sex. I visited new life about five times 150,000 each time. Very mechanical tbh. Luna Luna now that place I liked. I remember one Sunday going there. I took three girls to the room, that was filthy sex great sex. The best girl I had was tatis from photooreoagos. Holy shit nineteen red hair dyed a nice few tattoos and she is the best fuck I've ever had. The first time with her I blew my load four times in an hour. I couldn't believe it. I took her for my last night and it was special. Highly recommended, have her details pm if you want them.

[QUOTE=RichardGastow;2185524]This election day sucks! Anyone know of any options casa options that will be available today?[/QUOTE]Agree that election day in Colombia sucks. I don't know about casas, but there are no alcohol sales until tomorrow morning. I never figured out how alcohol can affect an election after the voting is finished. I hope someone receives more than 50% of the votes. Otherwise, another election will be held June 17. I will be there at that time.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2185505]Yakuza has no showers. [/QUOTE]I think that is the assumption.

A lot of places served booze it paper cups, even at the shopping mall. The booze sales ban after the voting is intended to prevent violence between political factions. Before the voting it is of course to promote sober voting and prevent political parties bribing voters with booze.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2185643]Agree that election day in Colombia sucks. I don't know about casas, but there are no alcohol sales until tomorrow morning. I never figured out how alcohol can affect an election after the voting is finished. I hope someone receives more than 50% of the votes. Otherwise, another election will be held June 17. I will be there at that time.[/QUOTE]

The fastest boner killer I ever experienced was touching a fake ass that felt like a cinder block wrapped in skin. Fuck that was bad, I avoid them like the plague.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2185828]Was God the name of the doctor that did her ass implants?

150,000 at NL? What did you get the 8-hour all you can fuck deal?

Hmmm.[/QUOTE]

I've been in Medellin since May 27, I haven't been to a club and haven't had a need to. I just continue to call up the whatsapp girls and friends I met on previous trips. Finally bought me a bike and I can move around Medellin more freely. Still got the girlfriend and apartment. Just love Medellin period. I have seen a bigger police presence in Centro. Someone said its "gringo season! " meaning many Americans vacationing here others said its because of the world Cup. Always here to lend a hand, PM if you need reliable chicas, I know a few!

Pollonegro is, out!

Arrived in Medellin a few days ago. Went to Conejitas (my favorite) and jumped the gun on a cute blonde, which I ending up regretting it. Still there were some new cuties. Popped into Barra Ejecutiva too, but didn't see what I liked. Hopefully closer to the weekend the quality will improve. Haven't been to Fase II yet. I like the casas so checking them out was my main focus. New life is still the most popular casa in centro. (50 k / half an hour, 80 k hour) New Life keeps adding rooms so you can tell business is still good for them. The line up the casas are just so-so. It doesn't mean you can't find good performers, but I think absolute stunners are harder to come by right now. Still, casa prices ranges from 36 k to 48 K for half and 70 to 80 K for an hour. The line up is just okay. Quality fluctuates wildly every time I visit Medellin. Some girls disappeared completely. Some girls are working in different cities now. Some old flames retired but I hope to convince them to comeback for a night or two. Just have to resupply those Whatsapp numbers again.

Does anyone have the number for Juliana working at the Paris Club casa? Had an appointment but phone problems and I can't reach her. Please PM me if you have her info.

Earlier this year I have had great success with Tinder in Cartagena (150-200 k pesos max). Probably due to Venezuelan invasion on the north coast. Now I am in Medellin and all the ladies want $100 USD +. I had one today specifically say 300 K pesos or $100 USD. Same with the club chics in Gusto in Poblado. I guess I shall stick to the casas & strip clubs!

Are you guys having success on Tinder?

Just flew in on Tuesday, staying a week. If anyone wants to link up, message me.

Did you notice Conejitas replaced their sun bleached and exhaust stained sign? Urban redevelopment I guess, or maybe keeping up with the Joneses since the museum and Uribe culture center both refurbed their exteriors, LOL! I agree with your assessment of the staff at the strip clubs and casas, it's generally hit or miss. There is a steady stream of new Venezuelans, but let's save that for another thread. I have to put Amigas Sexxy on blast for having an unusually staff slump going recently-but guys should go see for themselves.

[QUOTE=Wraith43;2187012]Arrived in Medellin a few days ago. Went to Conejitas (my favorite) and jumped the gun on a cute blonde, which I ending up regretting it. Still there were some new cuties. Popped into Barra Ejecutiva too, but didn't see what I liked. Hopefully closer to the weekend the quality will improve. Haven't been to Fase II yet. I like the casas so checking them out was my main focus. New life is still the most popular casa in centro. (50 k / half an hour, 80 k hour) New Life keeps adding rooms so you can tell business is still good for them. The line up the casas are just so-so. It doesn't mean you can't find good performers, but I think absolute stunners are harder to come by right now. Still, casa prices ranges from 36 k to 48 K for half and 70 to 80 K for an hour. The line up is just okay. Quality fluctuates wildly every time I visit Medellin. Some girls disappeared completely. Some girls are working in different cities now. Some old flames retired but I hope to convince them to comeback for a night or two. Just have to resupply those Whatsapp numbers again.[/QUOTE]

I have tried Tinder a bit. I got a freebie once and the girl was pretty decent looking. Not all of the girls on tinder are putas or semi-pros, so be careful with that. The pros that have responded to me have typically asked for 200 mil. The high end of what most FB girls want. I've not found one that excited me enough to pay 200 mil. Not even enough to negotiate. 300 mil is outrageous, unless maybe its TLN with a hot chica.

As far as Gustos and anywhere else in Parque Lleras. That place is for newbies and the girls there know it. I would never bother with Lleras, even if I was desperate. I'd in-call or out-call before that.

Casas and strip clubs if you are not in need of GFE. If you want GFE, you need to put in the time.

[QUOTE=BigAzzLuvr;2187240]Earlier this year I have had great success with Tinder in Cartagena (150-200 k pesos max). Probably due to Venezuelan invasion on the north coast. Now I am in Medellin and all the ladies want $100 USD +. I had one today specifically say 300 K pesos or $100 USD. Same with the club chics in Gusto in Poblado. I guess I shall stick to the casas & strip clubs!

Are you guys having success on Tinder?[/QUOTE]

Let me preface this by saying, I pride myself on clear, conscience and I demand reviews.

That being said, I am really tired of my inbox so g.

FILLED with freeloaders that ask from the jump.

For a name and whatsapp.

Let's be clear, I am all for sharing the info but.

There are a lot for greedy and shady MF That.

Just want it all for free. Or they waste a girls time.

And just use the whatsapp for free communication and pick trading.

That's going to end. I'm putting up a QUAILTY review of a.

Fresher then fresh 18 yo. If anyone comes at.

Me with "hey I'll be In Medellin in July Dane Elle whatsapp" or.

Some BS without offering, your going to be ignored.

Offer me something in return, my Inbox is filled with frelosfers, go away!

Ok. Now the review.

I get to her place, she lives In Laurles but it's soo on the border it is practically Robledo.

She opens the door and what do I see? A 18 yo with the face of someone that just graduated. My goodness!

She is wearing heels, a pinkish red bra with matching panties. Let me tell.

You, she is Flaka!! Super skinny. I can fit my hand around her waist with one hand practically. She smells like strawberries and smiles with the innocence of a spring date. We walk into the room. She ask for 120 or front. I take care of it and she comes back in.

We start touching and she complements my looks.

I complement her back and begin to remove her bra.

I unless these PERFECT be perky be cups on a body that barely weights 90 lbs. I can tell her tits still have not finished developing because I can still see the vein that is growing, it is almost a translucent thing you see in breast.

You can tell still have a few years left to grow. It's like 21 and she will reach maximum.

Anyway. I try to kiss her lips but she is hesitant. She has braces on the bottom of her lip and really is too shy to really go. Normally I press this but I can tell she very shy.

She undoes everything, grabs some.

Lube, kisses my chest and rubs Johnny. I ask for oral naturale and she gladly obliged for a propina of 20 K.

Her mouth to my surprise, despite her youth and braces feel like rose pedals gently gliding on the tip of my dick. Ahh. She does this for a solid 10 min and even licks the huevos.

We strap the rubber on, she grabs the lube but I tell her let me see if I can fit it in slowly without. This was more fun except she does not like clit play while fucking. Fingering her was ok but rubbing the clit is a no.

Ok fair Enough. Her clit BTW, dangled a bit, not super roast beef but the type of clit that if you have fucked enough skinny girls with thigh gap, you have grown accustom to seeing.

We start with her on top and she tries to do some Latins hip action.

I tell her she had to start a bit slower. She gets it and is into it right away. She bits her lip and looks into my eyes and she moans with pleasure.

We then do missionary in which I can really grab onto her tits and slam her tight wet pussy.

We then do sideways doggydtyle snd I try to rub her clit a bit, she shuts it down again. Instead. I grab her throat and cut off the air a bit. She looks and me and puts her hand on mine and makes me squeeze harder as I fuck her. She loved the pain. I decide to grab her skinny ass hard and slap it with authority. It turns red as she screams more. Next I get her in doggy. I can see the small tight wet pussy dripping as I drill it into her. I grip her hips tight and pull it all the way out and in slowly. I love watching it go in and she enjoys the pace. Next I flip over and tell her I want to finish on her tits. She is ok with it but she starts Wayyy too fast and intense. I get her to learn my rhythm. Finally she does. She sucks it a bit with no condon then jerks it more. She gets the rhythm right and before you know it, I am shooting custard all over her 18 yo perky tits. She sucks air between her teeth as I cum everywhere and a bit hits the bottom.

Of her chin. She flinches then laughed. As she does this a bit almost hits me in the face!! I dodge it and I tell her "el mismo" she laughs more. She cleans me up, we kiss each other goodbye and I leave happy.

10/10 will bang again. I will bet her prices will go up. A 5'2 90 lb brunette with a cute face and perky tits does not stay on the market for long.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2186573]
Pollonegro is, out![/QUOTE]Nice post as always.

I tried to imagine you closing your intercourse with your girls. Do you always shout out loud "Pollonegro is out!" also when you release?

I have no problem finding FB girls for 200 k for a couple of rounds. I have had all nighters for 250 k plus cab fares. I have stayed in Medellin now twice. The first time I was a newbie and overpayed. I have girls checking up with me on when I will be back at these prices. I speak fluent Spanish which makes a difference as I can converse and tell them what I expect. I stay away from gringo spots as you are easy prey for higher prices. I don't blame the girls for taking advantage. A lot of them are single moms trying to make ends meet.

Looks like you won both showcases with this one. Well done sir!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2187293]Let me preface this by saying, I pride myself on clear, conscience and I demand reviews.

That being said, I am really tired of my inbox so g.

FILLED with freeloaders that ask from the jump.

For a name and whatsapp.

Let's be clear, I am all for sharing the info but.

There are a lot for greedy and shady MF That.

Just want it all for free. Or they waste a girls time.

And just use the whatsapp for free communication and pick trading.

That's going to end. I'm putting up a QUAILTY review of a.

Fresher then fresh 18 yo. If anyone comes at.

Me with "hey I'll be In Medellin in July Dane Elle whatsapp" or.

Some BS without offering, your going to be ignored.

Offer me something in return, my Inbox is filled with frelosfers, go away!

Ok. Now the review.

I get to her place, she lives In Laurles but it's soo on the border it is practically Robledo.

She opens the door and what do I see? A 18 yo with the face of someone that just graduated. My goodness!

She is wearing heels, a pinkish red bra with matching panties. Let me tell.

You, she is Flaka!! Super skinny. I can fit my hand around her waist with one hand practically. She smells like strawberries and smiles with the innocence of a spring date. We walk into the room. She ask for 120 or front. I take care of it and she comes back in.

We start touching and she complements my looks.

I complement her back and begin to remove her bra.

I unless these PERFECT be perky be cups on a body that barely weights 90 lbs. I can tell her tits still have not finished developing because I can still see the vein that is growing, it is almost a translucent thing you see in breast.

You can tell still have a few years left to grow. It's like 21 and she will reach maximum.

Anyway. I try to kiss her lips but she is hesitant. She has braces on the bottom of her lip and really is too shy to really go. Normally I press this but I can tell she very shy.

She undoes everything, grabs some.

Lube, kisses my chest and rubs Johnny. I ask for oral naturale and she gladly obliged for a propina of 20 K.

Her mouth to my surprise, despite her youth and braces feel like rose pedals gently gliding on the tip of my dick. Ahh. She does this for a solid 10 min and even licks the huevos.

We strap the rubber on, she grabs the lube but I tell her let me see if I can fit it in slowly without. This was more fun except she does not like clit play while fucking. Fingering her was ok but rubbing the clit is a no.

Ok fair Enough. Her clit BTW, dangled a bit, not super roast beef but the type of clit that if you have fucked enough skinny girls with thigh gap, you have grown accustom to seeing.

We start with her on top and she tries to do some Latins hip action.

I tell her she had to start a bit slower. She gets it and is into it right away. She bits her lip and looks into my eyes and she moans with pleasure.

We then do missionary in which I can really grab onto her tits and slam her tight wet pussy.

We then do sideways doggydtyle snd I try to rub her clit a bit, she shuts it down again. Instead. I grab her throat and cut off the air a bit. She looks and me and puts her hand on mine and makes me squeeze harder as I fuck her. She loved the pain. I decide to grab her skinny ass hard and slap it with authority. It turns red as she screams more. Next I get her in doggy. I can see the small tight wet pussy dripping as I drill it into her. I grip her hips tight and pull it all the way out and in slowly. I love watching it go in and she enjoys the pace. Next I flip over and tell her I want to finish on her tits. She is ok with it but she starts Wayyy too fast and intense. I get her to learn my rhythm. Finally she does. She sucks it a bit with no condon then jerks it more. She gets the rhythm right and before you know it, I am shooting custard all over her 18 yo perky tits. She sucks air between her teeth as I cum everywhere and a bit hits the bottom.

Of her chin. She flinches then laughed. As she does this a bit almost hits me in the face!! I dodge it and I tell her "el mismo" she laughs more. She cleans me up, we kiss each other goodbye and I leave happy.

10/10 will bang again. I will bet her prices will go up. A 5'2 90 lb brunette with a cute face and perky tits does not stay on the market for long.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2187398]Nice post as always.

I tried to imagine you closing your intercourse with your girls. Do you always shout out loud "Pollonegro is out!" also when you release?[/QUOTE]What about the beginning of the intercourse, is something shouted out like, I'm in!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2187285]I have tried Tinder a bit. I got a freebie once and the girl was pretty decent looking. Not all of the girls on tinder are putas or semi-pros, so be careful with that. The pros that have responded to me have typically asked for 200 mil. The high end of what most FB girls want. I've not found one that excited me enough to pay 200 mil. Not even enough to negotiate. 300 mil is outrageous, unless maybe its TLN with a hot chica.

As far as Gustos and anywhere else in Parque Lleras. That place is for newbies and the girls there know it. I would never bother with Lleras, even if I was desperate. I'd in-call or out-call before that.

Casas and strip clubs if you are not in need of GFE. If you want GFE, you need to put in the time.[/QUOTE]Perfectly stated, especially true is "As far as Gustos and anywhere else in Parque Lleras. That place is for newbies and the girls there know it. I would never bother with Lleras, even if I was desperate".

I am headed out the door in an hour to tour the centro strip clubs and the little bars, just for the hell of it.

Stay safe all!

TTM.

When you see the history of Colombia, the policy is reasonable and more likely to be necessary.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2185643]Agree that election day in Colombia sucks. I don't know about casas, but there are no alcohol sales until tomorrow morning. I never figured out how alcohol can affect an election after the voting is finished. I hope someone receives more than 50% of the votes. Otherwise, another election will be held June 17. I will be there at that time.[/QUOTE]

Ha! I've spent plenty of time in El Centro mostly at the strip clubs, and the occasional street girl, and other than a couple of girls trying to pick my pockets, I've had no issues. And I've been going there for the last 5 months. My Spanish is shit as well. If you know how to be in cities, it's not a problem. I went to Mayorista with a couple of guys from the board and did not find it to be a problem either. Though, it was slim pickings. To each their own.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2176871]Thanks to Wolf 662 for the great video of Centro. I must say I was scared to death watching it. By all means don't go near Centro, and even worse stay away from Mayorista.

Poblado is the place to be at at all times. Be happy in the park there as you pay thru the nose for the wonderful, and loving girls who work that area. If you can't find to you liking there then hit social media for some fun that way.

Make sure also that on social media you always pay what they ask for, and give plenty of taxi money also. Then of course a big tip to the hard working girl as the measly 200 K to 300 K is not nearly enough.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2176797]If your implying that El Centro is safe for a first time non Spanish speaking gringo to hang out in, that in my opinion is bad advice. El Centro is dangerous even for Colombians and much more so for an obvious foreigner.[/QUOTE]I went there on my first day in Medellin, which was New Years. I was going to get laid and nothing was going to get in my way. It's a ghost town then and the only girls I could find were street girls in Centro. It was a bit intimidating, no store open, very few people around. And my Spanish was very bad. It was not a problem.

But, I'm an experienced monger who has spent years in developing countries.

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2187696]When you see the history of Colombia, the policy is reasonable and more likely to be necessary.[/QUOTE]Actually, the history of Colombia has nothing to do with alcohol excess. I see worse scenes in any entertainment district of Southern USA cities on Saturday night, then in Bogota or Medellin. Nothing is more obnoxious to me than a group of noisy drunken American youngsters, in their country or, even worse, in European tourist cities at night.

I enjoyed this. It was a perfect sarcastic summary of the fear mongering. It is 100% true there is potential danger but I don't judge it to be worse than what you find in sketchy areas of any major city. What sets the Medellin Centro situation apart is some of us have never and would never visit sketchy sections of urban areas other than Medellin. That can be a dangerous situation. Spanish helps but situational awareness and avoiding dark and lonely areas at night help much more. If I had to choose one or the other, I would give up Spanish fluency in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2176871]Thanks to Wolf 662 for the great video of Centro. I must say I was scared to death watching it. By all means don't go near Centro, and even worse stay away from Mayorista.

Poblado is the place to be at at all times. Be happy in the park there as you pay thru the nose for the wonderful, and loving girls who work that area. If you can't find to you liking there then hit social media for some fun that way.

Make sure also that on social media you always pay what they ask for, and give plenty of taxi money also. Then of course a big tip to the hard working girl as the measly 200 K to 300 K is not nearly enough.[/QUOTE]

I am not a guy who likes nightclubs or hardcore partying, would prefer to sit in a nice bar and chill. Have read that nighttime action is not very good as Colombian girls like to hang out with their guy friends!! So what chances do I have of a night?

Do I get as many daytime numbers as possible and hope the girl doesn't FLAKE?

Do semi-pros hit the clubs and bars of an evening?

[QUOTE=Gertsch700;2188167]I am not a guy who likes nightclubs or hardcore partying, would prefer to sit in a nice bar and chill. Have read that nighttime action is not very good as Colombian girls like to hang out with their guy friends!! So what chances do I have of a night?

Do I get as many daytime numbers as possible and hope the girl doesn't FLAKE?

Do semi-pros hit the clubs and bars of an evening?[/QUOTE]Everyone hits the clubs in the evening, especially after 11 pm, Thursday through Saturday. If you sit in the clubs, the music will be loud, but there's a fair chance, depending on your appearance, one of the "semi-pros" will make her availability known to you.

Where there are clubs there are also bars, quieter and more relaxed. However, you won't find much available talent unless you flag one down walking past.

Get numbers, make Facebook friends. You can easily have more girls lined up than you could ever get to. Your best route to avoid disappointment is to set a wide window. If you really want a girl to meet you at 8 pm, tell her 7. She might show up at 7, but chances are she'll be there closer to 8.

Hey guys,

I am visiting Medellin and Bogota in 6 months. I decided to go on cupid for a month membership just to see what I am dealing with and interact with women in both cities. During this past few weeks, I have had some phone numbers given to me. Some for dating and some for PFP. I never told women I was 6 months away, but for you guys that have visited multiple times, so you notice if these women change phone numbers all the time, or do they usually keep the same number? In the states, its unusual to change a phone number where I live, but when I went to Ukraine, girls seem to change numbers every 3-6 months.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BigAzzLuvr;2187240]Earlier this year I have had great success with Tinder in Cartagena (150-200 k pesos max). Probably due to Venezuelan invasion on the north coast. Now I am in Medellin and all the ladies want $100 USD +. I had one today specifically say 300 K pesos or $100 USD. Same with the club chics in Gusto in Poblado. I guess I shall stick to the casas & strip clubs!

Are you guys having success on Tinder?[/QUOTE]I'm on SA and having similar difficulties. Most of these chicas are scoffing at offers of 150.000 or 200.000 and are asking for minimum of 300.000-500.000. Also is weird is that they want to know the offer first before meeting. At those prices I could just go to Lleras or gusto for toda la noche.

Whoever is offering these ladies 300.000-500.00 to fuck needs to get shot.

Pm me if you have info only to exchange.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2188256]I am visiting Medellin and Bogota in 6 months. I decided to go on cupid for a month membership just to see what I am dealing with and interact with women in both cities. During this past few weeks, I have had some phone numbers given to me. Some for dating and some for PFP. I never told women I was 6 months away, [/QUOTE]Bad mistake. Waste of money. 2 weeks tops.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2187293]Let me preface this by saying, I pride myself on clear, conscience and I demand reviews.

That being said, I am really tired of my inbox so g.

FILLED with freeloaders that ask from the jump.

For a name and whatsapp.

Let's be clear, I am all for sharing the info but.

There are a lot for greedy and shady MF That.

Just want it all for free. Or they waste a girls time.

And just use the whatsapp for free communication and pick trading.

That's going to end. I'm putting up a QUAILTY review of a.

Fresher then fresh 18 yo. If anyone comes at..[/QUOTE]Clear your inbox. Lets trade info.

Hi,

I want to learn from the respected veterans of the Caribbean sex wars useful information for me. I am from Poland and the arena of my search is usually eastern Ukraine. Mostly Ukraine. I have long wanted to make a trip to Colombia. I was always attracted to Latin America. I've never been in Latin America. I want to know how cheap Colombia is. This naked blonde in a photo from Kiev, 20 years old, this is my old friend, I pay her an average of $ 100 for a few hours. How much will it cost about the same but of course Latino or color girl in Medellin? Some guys say that Latin America is not so cheap as before and the times of very cheap sex are over. I would like to know the details. Here are also my other trophies in Ukraine. In the photo. Thanks for the answer.).

Fellow mongers,

I am contemplating a trip to MDE in 2019. Naturally I will RTFF but am wondering if anyone has stayed at Hotel Medellin Kapital Carrera 56 see No 50-007 Medellin, is it GF and is there any action nearby. I could really use a guide that speaks English. Been to DR many times but never Colombia. Mr. E? Cheers.

[QUOTE=DCups;2188654]I am contemplating a trip to MDE in 2019. Naturally I will RTFF but am wondering if anyone has stayed at Hotel Medellin Kapital Carrera 56 see No 50-007 Medellin, is it GF and is there any action nearby. I could really use a guide that speaks English. Been to DR many times but never Colombia. Mr. E? Cheers.[/QUOTE]LOL. Man I stay downtown in the 35K peso hotels. Might move up to a 50K one next time I am there. 97K is out of my price range. You will be close to the casas and strip clubs, but since you don't like those, what kind of action would you be looking for? You might come out better emailing the hotel and asking if they are girl friendly. But in that area and at that price range I would bet they are.

[QUOTE=Tomek123;2188455]This naked blonde in a photo from Kiev, 20 years old, this is my old friend, I pay her an average of $ 100 for a few hours. How much will it cost about the same but of course Latino or color girl in Medellin?[/QUOTE]It may be pretty hard to find chicks like that in Colombia. The ones that are not born with shapes are usually in line to buy them. So unless you can reach them before they reach the plastic surgeon's office then you will probably be out of luck. And if you do happen to find one then they will range from $12 at a casa to $52 from facebook.

I've read several threads where guys mention going down on chicas. How is that OK? Are you guys not worried about catching something?

[QUOTE=BellBottomsDJ;2188256]Hey guys,

I am visiting Medellin and Bogota in 6 months. I decided to go on cupid for a month membership just to see what I am dealing with and interact with women in both cities. During this past few weeks, I have had some phone numbers given to me. Some for dating and some for PFP. I never told women I was 6 months away, but for you guys that have visited multiple times, so you notice if these women change phone numbers all the time, or do they usually keep the same number? In the states, its unusual to change a phone number where I live, but when I went to Ukraine, girls seem to change numbers every 3-6 months.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I am headed back down in about 5 weeks. 30 days tops is all you need cupid for. Any longer than that, it is too much work to keep their interest. I have had several numbers from cupid girls. It is hit and miss if they will keep the same number or change them. Probably 50/50 they will keep their number. I have numbers from prior trip and will be collecting new ones for this trip. In fact, I went into my whatsapp account the other day and cleared out a good many numbers that weren't good anymore.

BTW, I have been to Bogota and Medellin. I really like Medellin more.

How do you guys approach FB girls, are these girls you got know in real life or from fb groups? I am guessing you are not contacting total strangers on FB.

My experience with girls from social media is negative, they get out of the deal last minute or its catfish with the usual fake pictures. Though from the looks of Colombian prepagos sites the fake pictures disease don't seem to be widespread. I tried Tinder expensively in Morocco and confirm it doesn't work there.

[QUOTE=MrFour4;2188687]I've read several threads where guys mention going down on chicas. How is that OK? Are you guys not worried about catching something?[/QUOTE]Catching what, exactly? Have you thought out the risks or researched them at all? There has been a discussion of the low threat of getting a STD through oral sex (at least for straight men) over on the AC forum, where I posted some links to prominent health agencies. I'll save you the legwork, and won't assume that you are good at looking up things:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/s...andoralsex.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/970.aspx?CategoryID=118[/URL]

Yes, you should be aware of your risks. However, most data on the ORAL transmission of STDs indicates that the risk is on the receiving end of a penis. Of course, I will always wear a condom for fucking a prostitute I have a bad feeling about or girls who I know have been drug users. There are certainly risks on both ends to vaginal and anal sex. But, at least know where those risks are instead of worrying about risks you don't completely understand. If STDs are not something you cannot take the risk of contracting, then stay away from prostitutes period, unless you are just getting a hand job.

[QUOTE=MrFour4;2188687]I've read several threads where guys mention going down on chicas. How is that OK? Are you guys not worried about catching something?[/QUOTE]So which threads specifically are you referring to?

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2188752]How do you guys approach FB girls, are these girls you got know in real life or from fb groups? I am guessing you are not contacting total strangers on FB.

My experience with girls from social media is negative, they get out of the deal last minute or its catfish with the usual fake pictures. Though from the looks of Colombian prepagos sites the fake pictures disease don't seem to be widespread. I tried Tinder expensively in Morocco and confirm it doesn't work there.[/QUOTE]Approaching Facebook girls is very difficult and complicated. I'll try to break it down for you.

First you find some girls on Facebook. Then you send them a friend request. How to find girls on Facebook has already been explained in the forum several times, so this shouldn't be a problem. Continue finding and sending friend requests.

Chances are, unless you haven't followed the instructions to have an interesting Facebook page, before you've added 10 girls, one will be sending you a message. Within 2 minutes most girls will ask when you want to see them. If one you have added doesn't message you, send her a message. You can copy the messages the other girls sent to you.

That's all there is to it.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2188752]How do you guys approach FB girls, are these girls you got know in real life or from fb groups? I am guessing you are not contacting total strangers on FB.[/QUOTE]I contact total strangers, or they contact be. It all started with one lady I knew. I look at who makes comments to the FB ladies whom I have friended, and send a friend request if she looks good. I've learned one precaution, be wary of ladies whose only photos are selfies taken from above their head. I've encountered a few that are larger than they appear, and a couple with very short legs.

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2188729]I am headed back down in about 5 weeks. 30 days tops is all you need cupid for. Any longer than that, it is too much work to keep their interest. I have had several numbers from cupid girls. It is hit and miss if they will keep the same number or change them. Probably 50/50 they will keep their number. I have numbers from prior trip and will be collecting new ones for this trip. In fact, I went into my whatsapp account the other day and cleared out a good many numbers that weren't good anymore.

BTW, I have been to Bogota and Medellin. I really like Medellin more.[/QUOTE]How long were those old numbers stored in your phone? Well over 6 months? I am starting to wish I had set my flight to Medellin direct and stayed. $200-300 to change it. Debating. I am noticing there are a lot hotter girls in Medellin, or at least more of them. Have you visited Bogota? What were your thoughts?

What exactly is the mansion? A club, a brothel, a casa, a hotel, or a hotel / brothel. ??

Thanks!

MjT.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2188842]What exactly is the mansion? A club, a brothel, a casa, a hotel, or a hotel / brothel. ??

Thanks!

MjT.[/QUOTE]Its a hotel which allowed some freelancers to come and hang out near swimming pool, lobby or their own small night club.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2188859]Its a hotel which allowed some freelancers to come and hang out near swimming pool, lobby or their own small night club.[/QUOTE]I felt that was likely the case. Thanks mate, for clarifying and confirming.

MjT.

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2188393]Clear your inbox. Lets trade info.[/QUOTE]Go ahead it's clear.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2188666]LOL. Man I stay downtown in the 35K peso hotels. Might move up to a 50K one next time I am there. 97K is out of my price range. You will be close to the casas and strip clubs, but since you don't like those, what kind of action would you be looking for? You might come out better emailing the hotel and asking if they are girl friendly. But in that area and at that price range I would bet they are.[/QUOTE]Thanks, E. Well for $12 at a casa I can learn to like that real quick! What are the prices at the strip clubs, please?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2188778]So which threads specifically are you referring to?[/QUOTE]Just in random trip reports where guys detail their conquests.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2188770]Catching what, exactly? Have you thought out the risks or researched them at all? There has been a discussion of the low threat of getting a STD through oral sex (at least for straight men) over on the AC forum, where I posted some links to prominent health agencies. I'll save you the legwork, and won't assume that you are good at looking up things:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/s...andoralsex.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/970.aspx?CategoryID=118[/URL]

Yes, you should be aware of your risks. However, most data on the ORAL transmission of STDs indicates that the risk is on the receiving end of a penis. Of course, I will always wear a condom for fucking a prostitute I have a bad feeling about or girls who I know have been drug users. There are certainly risks on both ends to vaginal and anal sex. But, at least know where those risks are instead of worrying about risks you don't completely understand. If STDs are not something you cannot take the risk of contracting, then stay away from prostitutes period, unless you are just getting a hand job.[/QUOTE]No need to get cute. It was just a question, which why I thought this forum exists. Thanks for your response tho.

[QUOTE=Tomek123;2188455]Hi,
I want to learn from the respected veterans of the Caribbean sex wars useful information for me. I am from Poland and the arena of my search is usually eastern Ukraine. Mostly Ukraine. I have long wanted to make a trip to Colombia. I was always attracted to Latin America. I've never been in Latin America. I want to know how cheap Colombia is. This naked blonde in a photo from Kiev, 20 years old, this is my old friend, I pay her an average of $ 100 for a few hours. How much will it cost about the same but of course Latino or color girl in Medellin? Some guys say that Latin America is not so cheap as before and the times of very cheap sex are over. I would like to know the details. Here are also my other trophies in Ukraine. In the photo. Thanks for the answer.).[/QUOTE]Hi,

I've been to Kiev and Medellin. Generally I can say that girls in Kiev have a little bit more class compared to Medellin. But Medellin's WG are cheaper and more fun compared to Kiev.

BTW, I always felt save in Medellin, if you are streetswise you can have lots of fun in Columbia.

Easyease.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2183321]They're not terrible. There the ones south El Poblado (Casino San Fernando, Casino Medellin etc.) are alright but they are not giant casinos. 3-5 tables, with usually 2 tables of blackjack. I know Casino Medellin sometimes has parties at night and chicas come out but only because a chica I know went. It was some anniversary for the casino.

Don't expect to pick up hookers in casinos. I didn't see any.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Yippie. I'll be sure to give the 2 you mentioned a try, as for the chicas ill probably spend my winnings on them.

I was in Las Vegas last month and actually did win and did contribute to their economy so to speak.

[QUOTE=MrFour4;2188687]I've read several threads where guys mention going down on chicas. How is that OK? Are you guys not worried about catching something?[/QUOTE][URL]https://smartsexresource.com/about-stis/know-your-chances-0[/URL]

There's som good info for everybody.

Now, can we please get back to Medellin reports!

SHEESH! This discussion is supposed to be about reports--in other words: your experience meeting chicks in Medellin.

There are other threads on this site for chit chat, hotel, general questions etc.

Its really not that difficult: post your trip reports and chica stories here--nothing else.

Why is this so hard for so many of you to grasp?

Last time in Medellin, Tinder worked for me pretty well. Found a couple of hotties but they were over priced so I passed. Then, one made me a reasonable offer. 150 k for the hour + taxi to my place. I had her meet me at Carulla 24 hour supermarket-next to my hotel-just in case she wasn't what the photos she sent said she was.

I am waiting outside on a drizzly afternoon-a car pulls up--my phone rings--its the chica getting out of the car--both of us on our phones allow us to find each other instantly as she exits the car-and WOW! WOW WOW WOW! I just won the lotto.

I tell her I wanted to meet there so we could buy some wine and snacks for my room. We do a little shopping: wine, chocolate, a pre-made salad for her. Etc. Then holding hands, we walk over to my hotel.

Register at the front desk. I check her cedula as the desk makes a copy. She was 22 and perfect for me-and probably you.

Into the elevator- I rebuff an attempted kiss- and tell her 'tranquilo en publico' letting her know to be discreet.

Into the room: big hug, nice kiss. She is off to the bathroom, I pack a bong hit.

She come out- I offer some wine.

We talk, sitting on the balcony. Split most of the bottle of wine, smoke a little.

Then she gets up and sits on my lap. Starts grinding. We kiss and its on!

Good times. She was fantastic. Everything every man would want. I dropped 3 loads over about 3-3.5 hours. And gave her 250 + uber so 300 (a little extra on the uber rides. But whatever) and food / drink / smoke. Well worth it.

In between rounds, we friended on facebook--and she gave me some suggestions for friends of hers that were worth seeing--including a couple she would said would join me and her for threesomes.

She texted me the next day asked if I wanted her and this one chick I saw on her facebook who was also ridic. Hot--to come by, but, I already had another babe lined up- a cutis I met at Energy that was worth a 2nd round. -so I passed and will have to reconnect next time.

Girl messaged me after I left Medellin- said she would love to visit me if I pay for her air and expenses when together she'll come do anything I wish for a week to 10 days.

I'm still debating if that is a good idea.

Folks: the above few sentences is a report- a partial one, from one event in a 10 day trip to Medellin I recently took.

Anything else that's not a report or response. Take it somewhere else. Its really simple.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=DCups;2189043]Thanks, E. Well for $12 at a casa I can learn to like that real quick! What are the prices at the strip clubs, please?[/QUOTE]Prices vary from club to club. From about 55.000 to 80.000 for a half hour. Bpdrinks for you and the chicas are reasonably priced. My Spanish is not very good and I get by just fine. In Medellin, the strip clubs are my favorite because you can see what your getting before going with a chica, you can spend time with them and negotiate what they they'll do.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2188778]So which threads specifically are you referring to?[/QUOTE]I'm mostly worried about catching things that will either kill me or things that I can't get rid of.

If you do research in STDs you'll find that like most diseases, the bigger the danger, the harder it is to catch. Using that filter, it's HIV, herpes and there are some virulent strains of syphilis that have emerged, but not here yet, that I know of.

The chances of getting HIV through oral sex of any kind are about. 5%. There are no documented cases of this happening, that I'm aware of. If you had an open sore in your mouth, it would be a bad idea. Otherwise.

Even with vaginal penetration, it's much lower risk for a man, as it's pretty uncommon for a penis to get injured during sex and vaginal tears are common. Anal penetration is more dangerous.

Do research and take the risks you are comfortable with.

[QUOTE=DCups;2189043] What are the prices at the strip clubs, please?[/QUOTE]$65 US on site at the high end Fase II. (Doll House level girls).

$28+- on site at the Centro strip clubs.

All allow you to leave with the girl if you pay the club the exit fee (I think $50 at Fase and $15 downtown) and make a deal with the girl.

[QUOTE=Tomek123;2188455]Hi,

I want to learn from the respected veterans of the Caribbean sex wars useful information for me. I am from Poland and the arena of my search is usually eastern Ukraine. Mostly Ukraine. I have long wanted to make a trip to Colombia. I was always attracted to Latin America. I've never been in Latin America. I want to know how cheap Colombia is. This naked blonde in a photo from Kiev, 20 years old, this is my old friend, I pay her an average of $ 100 for a few hours. How much will it cost about the same but of course Latino or color girl in Medellin? Some guys say that Latin America is not so cheap as before and the times of very cheap sex are over. I would like to know the details. Here are also my other trophies in Ukraine. In the photo. Thanks for the answer.).[/QUOTE]You're almost more likely to find spinners with no plastic surgery in the street girls scene, the web and strip girls look more like this:

Street girls $10 and up, club girls $28 and up, Online web girls, $40 and up +-.

[QUOTE=MrFour4;2188687]I've read several threads where guys mention going down on chicas. How is that OK? Are you guys not worried about catching something?[/QUOTE]Out of 40+- Medellin chicks I have seen, I think I only DATY with 4 or 5 at the most. They were the most GFE / cute / clean and spent time with me / TLN and so I went BFE. More Sugar Baby like, less Pro like.

For those who have been asking about how to build an FB girl list, kindly RTFF (yes I know it takes a while to dig through months of posts). I posted a highly detailed guide on how to build a list a few months back.

Anyways I have a question for this forum. I'm planning a second trip to Colombia and I'm debating between a 2nd time in Medellin or first time in Bogota. From my own experience, I enjoy outcall / takeout over service on-premise (from casas or strip clubs). Based on my research, in Bogota my cheapest option would be to take out from the Santa Fe area to a nearby hotel. In Medellin, there's the Vera Cruz area which offers nearly the same thing as far as I understand. I imagine the FB, Tinder, and Photoprepagos options to be the mostly same in both cities.

So can anyone point out major differences between Bogota and Medellin? Like how is BOG's Santa Fe compared with MDE's Vera Cruz for example?

Secondly, I'm thinking about staying in the Laureles neighborhood for its proximity to Centro while not being in Centro. Is there a girl friendly hotel there that's not too far for Vera Cruz girls to go to?

Awesome report Amigo. Just way too much info. One of the best I have ever seen on this forum.

You have mentioned lots of FB contacts in your report. How exactly one can search and connect with this girls on FB?

[QUOTE=Tasss;2121996]Total newbie experience in the M. Two weeks of Duolingo Spanish is all I got under my belt and finished maybe 25% of the exercises. I'm actually good with languages but didn't have to time to study that much before this trip since it was mostly a scouting trip of sorts. Also I'm just doing one giant post because of how hard it is to page flip through ISG.

General thoughts:

- Even a little Spanish goes a long way to breaking the ice with these girls. I think Colombian girls are naturally very open and simply saying a few things to connect will increase the likelihood of good service.

- BBFS is available but you have to ask. I paid between 75 k-150 k more for the service, on average 100 k. I won't name the girls who actually did do it out of their privacy. Also I found that the girls' skills & looks, especially those from the Mansion, made BBFS unnecessary for me for the most part. Besides, most Mansion girls don't do it, and it's generally best to avoid asking them at all. See the next point as well as the Day #5 section.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Plan77;2189426]You have mentioned lots of FB contacts in your report. How exactly one can search and connect with this girls on FB?[/QUOTE]There's another report from me that explains it. Keep going further back.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2189284]Secondly, I'm thinking about staying in the Laureles neighborhood for its proximity to Centro while not being in Centro. Is there a girl friendly hotel there that's not too far for Vera Cruz girls to go to?[/QUOTE]Every single hotel around Veracruz is girl friendly so you don't need to worry about taking them anywhere as there are dozens of hotels of which many of the girls work in front of.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2189170]$65 US on site at the high end Fase II. (Doll House level girls).

$28+- on site at the Centro strip clubs.

All allow you to leave with the girl if you pay the club the exit fee (I think $50 at Fase and $15 downtown) and make a deal with the girl.[/QUOTE]It was 500 mil last time my friend took out a girl from Fase. Ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2189635]Every single hotel around Veracruz is girl friendly so you don't need to worry about taking them anywhere as there are dozens of hotels of which many of the girls work in front of.[/QUOTE]I know but I'd like to stay in Laureles, not in Centro.

I will leave it to others to explain why bringing Veracruz girls to Laureles can be more bother than it's worth, including guest friendly lodging that can become unfriendly at the sight of certain guests. Good luck and let us know what you decide and how it works out.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2189885]I know but I'd like to stay in Laureles, not in Centro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sho423;2189821]It was 500 mil last time my friend took out a girl from Fase. Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]IMO that's a rookie mistake. Better to test them out at the club first. If you have a good time, she'll likely be glad to stop by your place in the afternoon for 150k.

[QUOTE=Combo;2189946]IMO that's a rookie mistake. Better to test them out at the club first. If you have a good time, she'll likely be glad to stop by your place in the afternoon for 150k.[/QUOTE]That depends on your objective. 9 times out of 10, if I have fucked the same hooker, then it has been by mistake because I didn't remember fucking her before. Then the chick will start on about how she remembers me. I monger for the variety. I have a girlfriend when I want to fuck the same pussy twice. Damn near any hooker in Colombia will be glad to stop by for 150K!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2189944]I will leave it to others to explain why bringing Veracruz girls to Laureles can be more bother than it's worth, including guest friendly lodging that can become unfriendly at the sight of certain guests. Good luck and let us know what you decide and how it works out.[/QUOTE]Well that was my original question a few posts back, whether there are girl friendly hotels in Laureles that would allow girls to be brought back. It seems like you're implying there aren't.

My other question was whether there are significant differences between hobbying in Bogota vs Medellin. No one seems to be able to provide a response to that yet.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2189284]So can anyone point out major differences between Bogota and Medellin? Like how is BOG's Santa Fe compared with MDE's Vera Cruz?[/QUOTE]Bogota: 10 million people / cool climate and moderately rainy / variety of women from all across the country / several different types of mongering venues at different price points from $15 USD-$200+USD spread across the city.

Medellin: 4 million people / spring like climate with microburst showers / homogeneous choice of women (mostly beautiful, but generally similar features)/ most mongering concentrated in El Centro casas with a few other venues spread across the city at price points from $25 USD-$150+USD.

IMO, Bogota's Santa Fe is head and shoulders above Vera Cruz in Medellin! In the Vera Cruz area, you can generally take a quick walk and see all the girls available and they are usually pretty horrible looking. Too old, too fat, or if attractive, too young. In contrast, in Santa Fe, you're talking about a good 4 square blocks of women both indoors (at night) and outdoors (night and day). Someone recently posted a count that one could find 250 working girls at any time of day or night in Santa Fe. The best thing is, there is a variety as the girls are from all over including Venezuela, and are mostly in the 7-10 range with many 10 bodies! Generally, the top girls in Vera Cruz will be 7's.

I walked Vera Cruz day and night for 5 days straight while I stayed at a Centro Hotel and these were my observations. I have mongered in Bogota on and off for 10 years but have only been hitting Santa Fe for about 2 years at least every 2-3 months. My next trip, I will actually be staying close to Santa Fe rather than in the North as I had been all these years. Santa Fe is a definite gold mine. Both areas are a bit dodgy as far as the characters who hang around, but I found that going to Santa Fe during the day to get my bearings made me feel more comfortable being there at night. One of the best venues in Santa Fe, Atunes, is a day hours spot, so that helps! Get there around 2 pm and you'll have a ball. You'll find you probably won't have the stamina for all the girls you want.

Veracruz is not a reason to avoid or seek out Medellin. Bogota is cold AF at night. There is no shortage of girls in either city but they are very different cities.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2190142]Bogota: 10 million people / cool climate and moderately rainy / variety of women from all across the country / several different types of mongering venues at different price points from $15 USD-$200+USD spread across the city.

Medellin: 4 million people / spring like climate with microburst showers / homogeneous choice of women (mostly beautiful, but generally similar features)/ most mongering concentrated in El Centro casas with a few other venues spread across the city at price points from $25 USD-$150+USD..[/QUOTE]

You got some feedback about Bogota vs. Medellin: Bogota is more populous and varied and it is colder than Medellin, especially at night. The guest policy for hotels in Laureles or anywhere else depends on the guest most of all. Veracruz girls have a certain look (check the youtube videos if you don't know what I mean) that sets off alarm bells even at some of the Centro hotels. Another member gave you the suggestion of using love hotels in Veracruz or elsewhere in Centro. They will accept Veracruz girls and then you can go back to Laureles and do whatever it is that has you convinced you must stay in Laureles. Enjoy and let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2190127]Well that was my original question a few posts back, whether there are girl friendly hotels in Laureles that would allow girls to be brought back. It seems like you're implying there aren't.

My other question was whether there are significant differences between hobbying in Bogota vs Medellin. No one seems to be able to provide a response to that yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2190142]IMO, Bogota's Santa Fe is head and shoulders above Vera Cruz in Medellin![/QUOTE]This helps immensely thank you!

I was thinking about staying in a hotel that's about a 10 min walk from SF. Would are the girls be willing to go to a hotel of your choice if you're close by? I don't like the little short time motels that I expect to find in SF. (I know this question is more for the Bogota forums, but it's not as active as Med).

[QUOTE=Tasss;2190127]Well that was my original question a few posts back, whether there are girl friendly hotels in Laureles that would allow girls to be brought back. It seems like you're implying there aren't.

My other question was whether there are significant differences between hobbying in Bogota vs Medellin. No one seems to be able to provide a response to that yet.[/QUOTE]Nope. He's implying that it's not really a good idea to take Veracruz girls out of El Centro. I can think of a few reasons. Most aren't dressed for it. A girl friendly hotel in Laureles has different standards than one in El Centro. Also, many of the Veracruz girls have substance abuse issues. Best to leave them in their neighborhood. Then there's the risk of sticky fingers.

There's plenty of love motels in the area where you can have a good spot for a low price.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2189944]I will leave it to others to explain why bringing Veracruz girls to Laureles can be more bother than it's worth, including guest friendly lodging that can become unfriendly at the sight of certain guests. Good luck and let us know what you decide and how it works out.[/QUOTE]Many of the free lancers working in Veracruz have regular clothes / outfits that they can change into if you want to take them offsite to a more respectable hotel.

[QUOTE=Montani;2190620]Many of the free lancers working in Veracruz have regular clothes / outfits that they can change into if you want to take them offsite to a more respectable hotel.[/QUOTE]Very few of them, though, will be able to masquerade into classy ladies, if you want to blend in top hotels for a candle-light dinner.

I want to spend two weeks here, mongering hard and living nice. I did some rough, rough calculations, and I suspect I am due for about close to $4000 if I want to monger like a king and live like a king. Am I over-estimating my budget here? Do I really only need about $3000 to monger and live like a king for 2 weeks in Colombia? Thank you.

And I wish to go in July, so if any old pro's want to show a respectful newbie how to navigate naturally, I would much appreciate that!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2190587]There's plenty of love motels in the area where you can have a good spot for a low price.[/QUOTE]I love to quote myself. IN CENTRO, I mean really in centro, 1 block from Prado Metro Station, I recommend without hesitation the Motel Lafayette (pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there). Una chimba de hotel, as I heard my girl exlamating once we got in front of the big jacuzzi.

All details here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1953559&viewfull=1#post1953559[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2190653]Very few of them, though, will be able to masquerade into classy ladies, if you want to blend in top hotels for a candle-light dinner.[/QUOTE]LOL. A normal monger don't see that. But for anyone else, even if she has on decent clothes, one look at her shoes or her handbag and they will know that you are trying to pass off a hoodrat.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2190303]Bogota is cold AF at night.[/QUOTE]That is my chief complaint about Bogota. And unless you are in a US chain hotel ain't no climate control in your room.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2190310]and then you can go back to Laureles and do whatever it is that has you convinced you must stay in Laureles.[/QUOTE]LMFAO

Gents,

There are so many price discrepancies between posts, maps & websites, I'm hoping the experienced mongers can give us the current rates. I know there will be those that say RTFF but if we want newbies to pay fair prices and not overpay, this information should be readily available and easily accessible for everyone. The club names seem to change quite a bit too, so I put the addresses here also. Please feel free to correct any errors.

As of June 2018, what are the rates?

1. Mansion chicas- Cra. 43 #2 Sur 50 Poblado.

2. Photo prepagos (and other escort sites).

3. Loutron. Calle 16 a Sur #500.

4. Faze II. Carrera 44 #30-15.

5. Luna Lunera. Avenida 33 #63 be 215.

6. Fantasia Energy. Cra. 74 #101.

7. Relax / Tantra Massage. Cra 80 #44 be 139.

8. Coffee Shop. Cra. 45. #55-45.

9. New Life. Calle 56 #49-39.

10. Aiffe. Calle 57 #43-27.

11. Club de Amigas. Cra. 45 # 57-55.

12. Club de Amigas Sexy. Carrera 45 the, 57-67.

13. Barra Ejectiva. Calle 53 48-20.

14. Maracaibo. Calle 53 #49-30.

15. Conejitas. Calle 53 #51-41.

16. Centro street girls. Carrera 53 & Calle 51.

I tried to organize the list from safest options at the top (most expensive) to higher risk options at the bottom (least expensive) as well as location. Mansion & Loutron are in Poblado, Energy & Relax / Tantra by the stadium, #8 - 12 are all walking distance to each other in Centro in what looks to be a relatively safe area, #14 & 15 are right next door to each other with Conejitas a few blocks over, and street action is pretty close from there.

I know there are plenty more clubs not listed but these are the ones I have scouted and hope to visit, and this should give everyone a snapshot of prices.

Thanks in advance.

What are some other non-pro places I can find normal girls in colombian Cupid, Colombia social? Not any seeking arrangement stuff.

Anybody have any idea what Halloween Weekend is like for a Monger? Way over saturated with other mongers? Just wondered if more girls work during that time or if it becomes a sausage festival that should be avoided?

[QUOTE=Sho423;2190702]What are some other non-pro places I can find normal girls in colombian Cupid, Colombia social? Not any seeking arrangement stuff.[/QUOTE]Latin american cupid and colombian cupid. You will meet "normal" chicas but they likely are going to be looking for a foreigner if they are on those sites.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2190661]I want to spend two weeks here, mongering hard and living nice. I did some rough, rough calculations, and I suspect I am due for about close to $4000 if I want to monger like a king and live like a king. Am I over-estimating my budget here? Do I really only need about $3000 to monger and live like a king for 2 weeks in Colombia? Thank you.

And I wish to go in July, so if any old pro's want to show a respectful newbie how to navigate naturally, I would much appreciate that![/QUOTE]Which king? There are guys who come through and spend double your budget for 1 night. There are guys who come through, spend less than half your budget, and fuck 30 women in 2 weeks.

What do you consider "living nice?" You can find comfortable, clean places for $20-$30 per night. I've been in a bunch of apartments and hotel rooms that guys claimed were the best, in their opinion. They ranged from "I wouldn't stay there" to "too expensive" in my opinion.

I know guys who have 3 or 4 girls every day when they are in Medellin. There are others who spend all their time with 1 girl. Some only want the girls off the street in El Centro, some only want models.

"Live like a king and monger like a king" doesn't give any idea of what you want to do, so it's ridiculous to try and tell you how much it will cost.

First, decide how much you are willing to spend. Don't forget to include airfare. Beware, ticket prices can change by hundreds over just a few days. Now how are you planning on eating? The restaurants fit for a king will run you $30-$50 meal, more if you're having more than 2 cocktails. At the other end of the scale you can get 3 meals of comida tipica for about $10 per day. My preference is a Colombian breakfast and lunch, then something else for dinner. Costs me less than 50 k COP per day unless I splurge on dinner.

Now that you have food and transportation, figure out your mongering desires. Be realistic. Some guys, without Viagra, are good for 3 pops per day. Some even with the blue pills are only good for 1. Keep in mind, you'll probably be adjusting to the altitude, so will tire easier. If you aren't an experienced monger, you'll probably be dealing with some anxiety. Reality probably won't match your expectations. At the bottom end you can spend 80-100 k for 2 sessions in El Centro per day, plus another 100-150 k for one of the casa or street girls to come to your place. At the high end you can spend 2 or 3 million COP daily. I recommend deciding how many girls per day you realistically want to see, decide whether you're going with El Centro quickies (50 k), Facebook or other online girls (150-250 k) or strictly models (300 k and up) and do the math.

Now you know how much you have left over for lodging. See what's available and then decide if you need to start over with a different plan.

Back to the girls. As has been stated many times there's no correlation between what you pay and what you get. I've had the same girl tell me that 250 k was her lowest price, then offer (on different days) 200 k, 150 k, 120 k and 60 k. I've had 50 k sessions that were great and 200 k sessions that were lousy. The key is doing your research, putting together a realistic plan and being prepared for the glitches.

Here's 1 possible scenario:

Get a room at Hotel Porton Medellin, about $800 for 2 weeks. Book for 2 and make sure any girls you want to bring to your room are dressed reasonably and have their cedula. Breakfast is included. Santa Fe and Oviedo malls are within walking distance for lunch, 12-15 k for the menu of the day, $80 for lunches. Dinner can be in a variety of places for about 50 k or $250 for all your dinners. Add in Viagra, condoms, taxis and some basic supplies and all your basic needs are met for under $1500. That leaves $100 daily for mongering, assuming a $4000 budget with $1000 airfare.

After lunch, take a taxi to El Centro. Visit a few casas until you find the right girl and spend 50 k. For the evening set up a date off of Facebook for 170-220 k. If you tip 10 k to the casa girl you can do 28 girls, eat well, stay in a nice hotel and keep it under $4000.

From all the mongers I met in Medellin, the ones who tried to do too much had the worst time. Those are the guys who feel the need to have 3 or 4 girls every day, while partying hard. The ones who just come relaxed, enjoy themselves and work in 1 or 2 girls a day seem to be happier.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2190703]Anybody have any idea what Halloween Weekend is like for a Monger? Way over saturated with other mongers? Just wondered if more girls work during that time or if it becomes a sausage festival that should be avoided?[/QUOTE]Colombia loves Halloween. The clubs are all packed and all the women are out and dressed for the occasion. If you want to grab a girl or two, take them out and party hard, then take them back for all night fun, there's probably no better time than Halloween.

If your Spanish is good, you like to dance and you're not a complete troll, get a good costume and pick a club. Otherwise, work Facebook and find a girl. If you're splurging, she'll be happy to bring a friend or 3.

If you just want to find a girl to come to your room for awhile, it's not the best time. Most of the girls would rather be out partying, so they're not as likely to put out their best effort.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]As of June 2018, what are the rates?

4. Faze II. Carrera 44 #30-15.[/QUOTE]190 k on site.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]5. Luna Lunera. Avenida 33 #63 be 215.[/QUOTE]150 k on site.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]6. Fantasia Energy. Cra. 74 #101.[/QUOTE]145 k.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]13. Barra Ejectiva. Calle 53 48-20.

14. Maracaibo. Calle 53 #49-30.

15. Conejitas. Calle 53 #51-41.[/QUOTE]All 80 k +-.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]16. Centro street girls. Carrera 53 & Calle 51.[/QUOTE]30 k+-.

The Mansion is not a casa or brothel. It is a hotel with independents. The starting point is the same as it has been for as long as I've been going to medellin (12 years) - 150 mil. There has been an effort to organize and push the price to 200 mil or more. But only lazy, stupid, or newbies are likely to pay that, unless you are getting something really good (lots of time, many extras, anal) or you are really ugly and have poor hygiene. You should expect GFE. You should expect BBBJ (if not, pass). You should expect some kissing (although not always DFK). You will find a mix of new girls and hardened pros who have been there for years. Some are worth it and some are not. Ask. For me, I rarely if ever take girls from there. Because I have a good list and I don't stay there much any more. But I have found some real gems in the past (although they don't always stay a gem).

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]Gents,

There are so many price discrepancies between posts, maps & websites, I'm hoping the experienced mongers can give us the current rates. I know there will be those that say RTFF but if we want newbies to pay fair prices and not overpay, this information should be readily available and easily accessible for everyone. The club names seem to change quite a bit too, so I put the addresses here also. Please feel free to correct any errors.

As of June 2018, what are the rates?

1. Mansion chicas- Cra. 43 #2 Sur 50 Poblado.

2. Photo prepagos (and other escort sites).

3. Loutron. Calle 16 a Sur #500.

4. Faze II. Carrera 44 #30-15.

5. Luna Lunera. Avenida 33 #63 be 215.

6. Fantasia Energy. Cra. 74 #101.

7. Relax / Tantra Massage. Cra 80 #44 be 139.

8. Coffee Shop. Cra. 45. #55-45.

9. New Life. Calle 56 #49-39.

10. Aiffe. Calle 57 #43-27.

11. Club de Amigas. Cra. 45 # 57-55.

12. Club de Amigas Sexy. Carrera 45 the, 57-67.

13. Barra Ejectiva. Calle 53 48-20.

14. Maracaibo. Calle 53 #49-30.

15. Conejitas. Calle 53 #51-41.

16. Centro street girls. Carrera 53 & Calle 51.

I tried to organize the list from safest options at the top (most expensive) to higher risk options at the bottom (least expensive) as well as location. Mansion & Loutron are in Poblado, Energy & Relax / Tantra by the stadium, #8 - 12 are all walking distance to each other in Centro in what looks to be a relatively safe area, #14 & 15 are right next door to each other with Conejitas a few blocks over, and street action is pretty close from there.

I know there are plenty more clubs not listed but these are the ones I have scouted and hope to visit, and this should give everyone a snapshot of prices.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

I know Mansion is not an official brothel but fellow mongers do stay there and pickup girls from that location. So $150 k firm which should include LFK and BBBJ. Any other prices you can advise on?

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2190701]Gents,

There are so many price discrepancies between posts, maps & websites, I'm hoping the experienced mongers can give us the current rates. I know there will be those that say RTFF but if we want newbies to pay fair prices and not overpay, this information should be readily available and easily accessible for everyone. The club names seem to change quite a bit too, so I put the addresses here also. Please feel free to correct any errors.

As of June 2018, what are the rates?

1. Mansion chicas- Cra. 43 #2 Sur 50 Poblado - $150k firm, includes GFE.

2. Photo prepagos (and other escort sites).

3. Loutron. Calle 16 a Sur #500..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2190661]I want to spend two weeks here, mongering hard and living nice. I did some rough, rough calculations, and I suspect I am due for about close to $4000 if I want to monger like a king and live like a king. Am I over-estimating my budget here? Do I really only need about $3000 to monger and live like a king for 2 weeks in Colombia? Thank you.

And I wish to go in July, so if any old pro's want to show a respectful newbie how to navigate naturally, I would much appreciate that![/QUOTE]Obviously your mileage may vary, but I was in Medellin for all of May and on average I spent around $100-150 fucking 1-2 facebook and tinder girls every day. Here's my costs:

Round trip tickets with Spirit airlines: $400.

Penthouse apartment with A/C in Laureles: $43 a day.

Meals: Usually $5-10 a day, I only eat once a day so that cut down the costs.

Girls: Most wanted 150 k-200 k plus taxi fare, so around $60 to $88 a piece.

In total I spent around $3,600 for a month of debauchery. 4 grand should easily cover two weeks even if you're doing double the number of girls (or even 4 x or 8 x if you go for cheaper centro prepagos!

Hi guys,

Just had an epic session en Barranquilla for 70 k (also a 2nd at 90). GFE and no clockwatching for an hour w two chicks. See Barranquilla board for the post.

It was so far and away better than anything I've had in MDE it made me wonder if I'm just going to the wrong places. I really like hitting the Zandy where the gals are chill but they certainly aren't keen on real pleasure.

I hate to call it GFE, since I expect better "service" when I'm paying for it than w my girlfriend, where it's supposed to go both ways.

Any spots with consistently great service? I'm not unhappy w MDE service, but New Life girls going 5 minutes beyond the 30 gets old, and I don't blame the girls, they've got a tough job. The house can do training tho.

That said, not sure if Blue in BAQ was an outlier (I went back twice the same day!). But might have to move mongering down south if that's how it works there! (One of the forum posts said girls at the "casas" there are lucky to get two tricks a day. And I can confirm these girls put on their "A" game when I showed up for round 2. They wanted money).

Much any more, but as a general rule, you are not going to have GFE with a casa girl, especially is you are only with her for 20-30 minutes. I have had plenty of GFE, but most of them were Mansion chicas (when I used to go there) and FB girls (now). I have also had some good luck with ColombianCupido, but you have to put in the time for that to pay off.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2191057]Hi guys,

Just had an epic session en Barranquilla for 70 k (also a 2nd at 90). GFE and no clockwatching for an hour w two chicks. See Barranquilla board for the post.

It was so far and away better than anything I've had in MDE it made me wonder if I'm just going to the wrong places. I really like hitting the Zandy where the gals are chill but they certainly aren't keen on real pleasure.

I hate to call it GFE, since I expect better "service" when I'm paying for it than w my girlfriend, where it's supposed to go both ways.

Any spots with consistently great service? I'm not unhappy w MDE service, but New Life girls going 5 minutes beyond the 30 gets old, and I don't blame the girls, they've got a tough job. The house can do training tho.

That said, not sure if Blue in BAQ was an outlier (I went back twice the same day!). But might have to move mongering down south if that's how it works there! (One of the forum posts said girls at the "casas" there are lucky to get two tricks a day. And I can confirm these girls put on their "A" game when I showed up for round 2. They wanted money).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2191057]Hi guys,

Just had an epic session en Barranquilla for 70 k (also a 2nd at 90). GFE and no clockwatching for an hour w two chicks. See Barranquilla board for the post.

It was so far and away better than anything I've had in MDE it made me wonder if I'm just going to the wrong places. I really like hitting the Zandy where the gals are chill but they certainly aren't keen on real pleasure.

I hate to call it GFE, since I expect better "service" when I'm paying for it than w my girlfriend, where it's supposed to go both ways.

Any spots with consistently great service? I'm not unhappy w MDE service, but New Life girls going 5 minutes beyond the 30 gets old, and I don't blame the girls, they've got a tough job. The house can do training tho.

That said, not sure if Blue in BAQ was an outlier (I went back twice the same day!). But might have to move mongering down south if that's how it works there! (One of the forum posts said girls at the "casas" there are lucky to get two tricks a day. And I can confirm these girls put on their "A" game when I showed up for round 2. They wanted money).[/QUOTE]My most GFE in MED were a 30 k Centro street chick (80 k for a few hrs at my hotel) and a 300 k for 24 HR stripper from Conejitas.

Monday was a holiday so things were slow in El Centro and we got there late:

First popped into Dulce Compañía. First two girls looked enthusiastic and we thought we lucked out but the brakes were slammed and the third and last chick was lacking. A guy off the street took the first girl so only one good one left and we bounced. Price was 40 k on the wall for 30.

Fantasias 1 looked to be closed, popped into Fantasias and they had 3 girls, none intoxinf and such a dark spot for a lineup. Didn't care for it, nor the male tout. 40 k on the Wall, same exact sign, they must share a printer!

We bounced. Tried Amigas and two other places, closed.

Ended up at New Life at 5 pm, surprisingly had 10 chicks and went for Leili, tall gal, great ass and nice service which was a surprise from a NL gal at the end of the day.

Cra 50 A 53-38.

On the ground floor, popped in around 1 pm. Three girls, two no-thanks and one cute one. My buddy went for the cutie and she tried to tell him it was 70 k. He got her down to 50 just to smooth things over but for sure the cost should be 42. Sara. She was pretty aggressive about trying to get our business and my buddy said she rode topside about as good as anyone ever, so I got to head back to try. She nagged for tip at the end so he gave her 2 k and got a sneer in return!

World Cup starts Thursday and I got to see the girls at Zandaly putting up World Cup flags getting ready for the event! That's why I love the Zandy, it sort of has some real world normalacy inside a *****house.

Anyway their Tv screen is a tad small but think it would be a blast to meet up w some crew and watch Cup games while taking our fun at Halftime.

What spots have a good Tv and would be fun for watching the games, since they're all daytime. Spain Portugal is 1 pm Friday, let's plan a meetup! Maybe someone can bring a bigger Tv to the Zandaly if there is no other good place.

Any places have 2 x1 discounts? Was just at a place in Barranquilla that was 2 girlsx70 kX1 hour. Can't imagine anything that but if anyone knows any 2 x1 promotions please share.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2191672]Any places have 2 x1 discounts? Was just at a place in Barranquilla that was 2 girlsx70 kX1 hour. Can't imagine anything that but if anyone knows any 2 x1 promotions please share.[/QUOTE]Hooters has 2 X 1 wings every Wednesday. You asked!

Check the rates at Energy or Tantra, then go to any Centro casa-you will be able to have two girls for the price of one at Energy or Tantra.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2191672]Any places have 2 x1 discounts? Was just at a place in Barranquilla that was 2 girlsx70 kX1 hour. Can't imagine anything that but if anyone knows any 2 x1 promotions please share.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2191706]Hooters has 2 X 1 wings every Wednesday. You asked![/QUOTE]Yeah Mon., most of Lleras goes 2 x1 alitas (wings) on Weds!

Amigas website says 2 x1 girls x 60 minutes 95 k. Going to try it! "Sexy Sabores 95 k" which means "Sexy Stinky Pussies" in Spanish, roughly translated, but I might be missing something.

[URL]http://amigassexy.com/servicios-y-precios[/URL]

Actually a pretty solid website for such a shady spot. Popped in there today and didn't see any gals that caught our eyes, instead enjoyed time at the.

Dulce Compania CRA45/57-55.

Every gal in the lineup had a nice smile and seemed ready to go. We popped in there yesterday and left when the 1/2 (of three presentations) hot chicks got swiped by a late arrival local guy (TIVO said "you can take her" I said "nah lets just head to New Life" As we left yesterday we both said, "The mamasan was pretty cute".

Fast-forward to today, we go back because we liked the attitude. The lineup ladies roll thru and then the mamasan comes in and instead of asking us which girl we want, she presents herself and says, "Paula. " My buddy and I both look at each other and do a quick silent RockScissorsPapers. I won, and took her. Lovely gal, lots of sweet GFE kisses. I'm not stupid enough to think she hopped off the management bench because we are such great guys, but I'm going to pretend that's what happened. It was 5 pm and she was just horny, right?

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Talon;2191038]Obviously your mileage may vary, but I was in Medellin for all of May and on average I spent around $100-150 fucking 1-2 facebook and tinder girls every day. Here's my costs:

Round trip tickets with Spirit airlines: $400.

Penthouse apartment with A/C in Laureles: $43 a day.

Meals: Usually $5-10 a day, I only eat once a day so that cut down the costs.

Girls: Most wanted 150 k-200 k plus taxi fare, so around $60 to $88 a piece.

In total I spent around $3,600 for a month of debauchery. 4 grand should easily cover two weeks even if you're doing double the number of girls (or even 4 x or 8 x if you go for cheaper centro prepagos![/QUOTE]Nice report! Can you share where you stayed please?

I'm kinda new to this Medellin website and I was wonder how reliable are the [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL] and [URL]skokka.com[/URL] websites?

Is there a lot of photoshopping and / or bait and switch?

If they don't have WhatsApp it hard to communicate, especially if you don't have International calling service.

Any help is appreciated!

[QUOTE=Retired22;2192289]I'm kinda new to this Medellin website and I was wonder how reliable are the [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL] and [URL]skokka.com[/URL] websites?

Is there a lot of photoshopping and / or bait and switch?

If they don't have WhatsApp it hard to communicate, especially if you don't have International calling service.

Any help is appreciated![/QUOTE]Personally, I don't waste my time with those sites. I will use Colombian Cupid and have finally been able to get facebook going well. Other than that, wait until you get there and check out some strip clubs or casas or hang out at Parque Lleras at night.

I've been to this high end casa like 5 years ago and even though I didn't partake, the classy and elegant atmosphere was eye opening for me as a newbie. I'm taking a friend of mine who's never been to MDE to check out the place for nostalgia purposes, I think they moved location and it's a tough spot to locate if I remember correctly. Does anyone have the current address of this place? Thanks!

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2191934]Nice report! Can you share where you stayed please?[/QUOTE]San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 a, they are listed on a number of sites but I booked them through airbnb. They have a front desk like a hotel and will check the ID of every girl you bring back but they are girl friendly. While I was there I saw a handful of older unattractive dudes entering and leaving with girls far more younger and prettier (one looked like he was 70 and had a 20-year-old as arm candy! Their suites are pretty spacious and come with air conditioning and a fully stocked kitchen. Only downside was that sitting adjacent to Car. 70 there's a lot of city noise.

As an added bonus, their in-house restaurant makes a pretty decent burger, and you can even get it delivered to your door.

[QUOTE=Retired22;2192289]I'm kinda new to this Medellin website and I was wonder how reliable are the [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL] and [URL]skokka.com[/URL] websites?

Is there a lot of photoshopping and / or bait and switch?

If they don't have WhatsApp it hard to communicate, especially if you don't have International calling service.

Any help is appreciated![/QUOTE]I've never used skokka but I've gotten successful hookups using [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] and [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]. There's definitely fakes and photoshops but you can usually weed them out if you use common sense. Try googling their phone number. If they've been around awhile oftentimes you'll find a post on a review website where someone tried them out. If you find more of their ads see if their photos are consistent. You can also run their photos through [URL]tineye.com[/URL] and yandex. Ru and see what turns up. Only interact with girls that use Whatsapp. From my experience girls without it never respond to texts. Above all use your brain--if she looks like a supermodel and has a series of professionally produced photos there's no way in hell anyone of that caliber would polish your knob for a measly 50 k.

[QUOTE=Talon;2192458]I've never used skokka but I've gotten successful hookups using [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] and [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]. There's definitely fakes and photoshops but you can usually weed them out if you use common sense. Try googling their phone number. If they've been around awhile oftentimes you'll find a post on a review website where someone tried them out. If you find more of their ads see if their photos are consistent. You can also run their photos through [URL]tineye.com[/URL] and yandex. Ru and see what turns up. Only interact with girls that use Whatsapp. From my experience girls without it never respond to texts. Above all use your brain--if she looks like a supermodel and has a series of professionally produced photos there's no way in hell anyone of that caliber would polish your knob for a measly 50 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks Talon I'll use your advice and see how it goes especially use the big head instead of the other head.

[QUOTE=Talon;2192454]San Peter apartment suites on Calle 41 a, they are listed on a number of sites but I booked them through airbnb. They have a front desk like a hotel and will check the ID of every girl you bring back but they are girl friendly. While I was there I saw a handful of older unattractive dudes entering and leaving with girls far more younger and prettier (one looked like he was 70 and had a 20-year-old as arm candy! Their suites are pretty spacious and come with air conditioning and a fully stocked kitchen. Only downside was that sitting adjacent to Car. 70 there's a lot of city noise.

As an added bonus, their in-house restaurant makes a pretty decent burger, and you can even get it delivered to your door.[/QUOTE]I am glad you posted this. I have booked the same apartment building for my next trip in a couple of weeks. I typically stay in Poblado, but wanted a change of scenery. I'm always nervous about trying a new place, but this seems like a good choice.

I hope this is the latest:

Loutron Club Spa.

Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500. GPS: 610'59"and 7532'53"W Loma de los Balsos #1, 7 blocks up from the Y, on the right. It is across from the Campo de PaintBall Game Place on Tesoro above the los Balsos roundabout. Just down a little bit from the speed bump. They built a new wooden gate. It's a one lane driveway to the top. You cannot see the house from the street. It is about a half mile higher up the road from the old location. 10-16 Masajistas. Prices: Cover 10 k, Beer 10 k, Masajistas 130 k 20 min. 160 k 30 min. 210 k hour. 250 k 90 min. Tel: 4444-204- 317 41 74 / Cell: 301 642 45 15,4444-42 04,618 05 92,618 05 96, Cell 313-230-27 56. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11 pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9 pm. [URL]http://loutron.co/medellin/[/URL] [URL]http://wikimapia.org/24844270/Loutron[/URL].

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2192441]I've been to this high end casa like 5 years ago and even though I didn't partake, the classy and elegant atmosphere was eye opening for me as a newbie. I'm taking a friend of mine who's never been to MDE to check out the place for nostalgia purposes, I think they moved location and it's a tough spot to locate if I remember correctly. Does anyone have the current address of this place? Thanks![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the much needed never expected thorough info! I remember the taxi got lost couple times going to their older location, but the drive through the gate up the hill passing through security was something straight from a movie or a popular Netflix series haha.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2192718]I hope this is the latest:

Loutron Club Spa.

Calle 16 a Sur # 9 e-500. GPS: 610'59"and 7532'53"W Loma de los Balsos #1, 7 blocks up from the Y, on the right. It is across from the Campo de PaintBall Game Place on Tesoro above the los Balsos roundabout. Just down a little bit from the speed bump. They built a new wooden gate. It's a one lane driveway to the top. You cannot see the house from the street. It is about a half mile higher up the road from the old location. 10-16 Masajistas. Prices: Cover 10 k, Beer 10 k, Masajistas 130 k 20 min. 160 k 30 min. 210 k hour. 250 k 90 min. Tel: 4444-204- 317 41 74 / Cell: 301 642 45 15,4444-42 04,618 05 92,618 05 96, Cell 313-230-27 56. Hours: Monday to Thursday Noon to 11 pm, Friday to Saturday Noon to 9 pm. [URL]http://loutron.co/medellin/[/URL] [URL]http://wikimapia.org/24844270/Loutron[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bdb013;2192690]I am glad you posted this. I have booked the same apartment building for my next trip in a couple of weeks. I typically stay in Poblado, but wanted a change of scenery. I'm always nervous about trying a new place, but this seems like a good choice.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Medellin I stayed in Poblado because I heard all the action was centered around Parque Lleras. Ironically, I never picked up a streetwalker there and have exclusively used casas, escorts, and girls I met on social media. I'ts good place for beginners, relatively safe and touristy, but after awhile like you said one starts to crave a change of scenery. Laureles and Envigado are good neighborhoods I've tried out, both upscale and centrally located so you pay less on taxis taking girls to and from your bachelor pad.

I am planning on taking a trip out there in either late October or early November. With this in mind I started a mongering FB profile. I want to thank Tasss who wrote a great report on how to do that way back in December of last year. In case anyone wants to look at it it's report #24342. (sorry don't really know how to link it).

So if you follow his advice it is super easy to build up a great friend network. In about 2 weeks I am currently at 95 friends and counting. Obviously not everyone will respond but as Tasss said once you have a few they start pouring in. Once the friends start coming in girls will start waving Hello, at you on messenger. You also will get talk on messenger from your comments that you place on their pictures or stories. All of them had said they will see me when I come down. As was mentioned it will help you build your friend network to also friend a couple of like minded guys. I did have a weird thing come up though. Facebook wouldn't let me friend request a couple of girls saying something like "only friend request people you know". I was able to request them later after waiting a few hours.

From the American Airlines web site, this is news some of you can use. Check the last item and if you are 65 or older be sure to claim your tax refund within the time limit. Any questions, check the web site or call American Airlines:

Colombia Tourism Tax (JS) exemptions.

Airline crew on duty.

Colombian citizens with a valid passport, Colombian resident card or a naturalization certificate.

Military flights.

Diplomats.

Filipino overseas contract workers.

Involuntary rerouting due to technical difficulties, weather conditions or other valid reasons.

Personnel from international organizations created through multilateral agreements to which Colombia has adhered.

Senior passengers over 65 years' old.

Believe it or not, in maybe 10 years I have been going to Medellin (sparsely say from multiple visits in one year to 2 years without going) FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I went looking Hotel M (a.k.a. Mansion) from outside. I was sipping my coffee at Juan Valdez and I found out by chance that the most famous place in ISG was just one block from me, besides having a Pokemon Go gym almost right in front (it could be a plus for someone). So, I thought why not to go there and see it, at long last?

Yes, it looks a very good place! :p

I also understood that all the gringoes that I see at Juan Valdez, in particular those showing the photo of the drink they want to order on their cell phone, because they seem unable to order it in the standard way, come straight from there. Today I have seen at least two of them (two very nice and well-mannered guys, I must say) sipping their coffee and then going back to their place up the street. Hello, if you read this! :)

Yesterday I had my tough time fighting against Ley Seca. Why the Hell South American countries should close bars and forbid alcohol for 1+ day (3 days in Ecuador), because the day after there are elections, is out of my understanding, but that's out of topic. And not only alcohol. Today I missed the ride on bicycle on the Av. Poblado that I have been looking forward for a long time, because ALSO the Ciclovia is banned by elections. WTF!

By the way, I hit with surgical precision both dates of elections. At the end of May I was in Cartagena, and it has been the most lonely Saturday I ever remember there (just few desperate ugly girls at Reloy). Today, I am here in Medellin. I did not have the freedom to choose the dates of my travels, but I precisely hit both elections.

At NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas, I don't want to put the restaurant in trouble), I wanted a beer to accompany the steak, and two very embarrassed waiters had to tell me that no beer was allowed because of the Ley Seca. Then what, I replied?
- We can serve only soft drinks, wine and sangria.
- WTF! Isn't wine an alcoholic drink?
- Yes, but the Gerente decided that. No beer, only wine.
- This is not logical! Can I have beer then?
- If you want, we have Aguila Zero, with no alcohol.
- NO! Do you have Wine Zero, without alcohol?
- Not really. Sorry, this is not our fault. It's the Gerente. We can serve you wine, but not beer.
- Well, I am going to call Police, reporting that here they serve ILLEGAL drinks! Wine is not allowed, as well as beer.

I said that laughing, but the response was immediate:
- OW NO! We will give you a beer, but in glass without bottle!

The steak was very good, the beer cold, the service excellent, the waiters so nice with me. What to ask more?

Ahh. The logic of the Paisas! Got to love them.

And the law is so unevenly enforced. I can imagine La Cueva was serving, because they grease up the cops. And my chica friends tell me that it's not that hard to find someone to sell you alcohol in the barrios. It's only the legit places that seem to suffer. I was in Laureles for the election in May, and Saturday night it was a ghost town on La 70.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2193428]Yesterday I had my tough time fighting against Ley Seca. Why the Hell South American countries should close bars and forbid alcohol for 1+ day (3 days in Ecuador), because the day after there are elections, is out of my understanding, but that's out of topic. And not only alcohol. Today I missed the ride on bicycle on the Av. Poblado that I have been looking forward for a long time, because ALSO the Ciclovia is banned by elections. WTF!

By the way, I hit with surgical precision both dates of elections. At the end of May I was in Cartagena, and it has been the most lonely Saturday I ever remember there (just few desperate ugly girls at Reloy). Today, I am here in Medellin. I did not have the freedom to choose the dates of my travels, but I precisely hit both elections.

At NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas, I don't want to put the restaurant in trouble), I wanted a beer to accompany the steak, and two very embarrassed waiters had to tell me that no beer was allowed because of the Ley Seca. Then what, I replied?
- We can serve only soft drinks, wine and sangria.
- WTF! Isn't wine an alcoholic drink?
- Yes, but the Gerente decided that. No beer, only wine.
- This is not logical! Can I have beer then?
- If you want, we have Aguila Zero, with no alcohol.
- NO! Do you have Wine Zero, without alcohol?
- Not really. Sorry, this is not our fault. It's the Gerente. We can serve you wine, but not beer.
- Well, I am going to call Police, reporting that here they serve ILLEGAL drinks! Wine is not allowed, as well as beer.

I said that laughing, but the response was immediate:
- OW NO! We will give you a beer, but in glass without bottle!

The steak was very good, the beer cold, the service excellent, the waiters so nice with me. What to ask more?[/QUOTE]

Because of Ley Seca, there were not many options available yesterday night.

I was in the mood of doing something different, so I went to Dreams SW, that is one of the very few swinger clubs in Medellin. Those who are used to these places in Europe (big cities can have 50+ clubs, from small to big ones with even 200+ persons inside on a weekend night) will find the place very disappointing, but I like the underground atmosphere of the small place with naughty Colombians.

Only couples admitted on Saturday, but the "receptionist" called a girl to accompany me (200 k). She was so nice! I did not expect such a nice person. To be honest, I was prepared to greet some ultra hard-core pro, someone you would not like to take out to dinner because of the public shame, but she was really a nice girl. She works there (dance etc.) and she is anything but a beginner on the scene, but she really behaved as she was my girlfriend. Intelligent in understanding what to do and what to not do, sensitive, and of course without inhibitions.

There were about 7-8 couples, some genuine some others like us. Some very nice girls and guys, mixed with ugly and average. Yes, normal people. We worked hard to corrupt a girl with her man, who looked very skeptical and not really involved in the game. After two hours, drinks and light teasing on the couch, I saw her in a group of 6, where she and the other two girls were finding the way to masturbate each other (please note: 6 hands for 3 pussies, do the math). Mission accomplished.

Of course we joined and we had our share. That was until a 5th couple came, who behaved like people going to the butcher and serving meat to themselves. The lady was a 40+ yo, fat, who started to kiss passionately and and eat the breast of my girl. Her man moved soon his attention from her lady to the ass of my girl, and started to slap it. At that point, I whispered in the ear of my girl that we could leave the room, whenever she could feel unconfortable.
She said yes, let us leave, but suddenly the fat lady started to lick and suck - I'd say to EAT eagerly - the pussy lips of my girl. My girl could not talk anymore, because she opened her eyes wide for the surprise and could not refrain to moan. No simulation. The feeling of someone eating your pussy must be strong.
We left few minutes later, when the husband with his hard prickly beard wanted to do the same. NO THANKS, my girl told me with her eyes. I took her hand and I drove her to the pool.

Overall, one of my best nights in Medellin since quite a while (also because of the steak with beer).

To be honest, we could not call Colombians dumb because of Ley Seca and the (for me) inexplicable relation they establish between having elections and forbidding a beer with a burger.

In USA, the superdeveloped and most advanced World, they ask me to show a picture ID in the restaurants of airports (proven in JFK and ATL) if I want a beer to accompany a burger. Please note:
1) I am 50+ and it's been a long time that anyone does not take me as teen (except in USA).
2) In airports, there are no UMs going around alone without staff.

In this interesting country, for a teen it seems more difficult to have a beer than a gun at school. (Sadly).
QUE VIVA COLOMBIA!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2188859]Its a hotel which allowed some freelancers to come and hang out near swimming pool, lobby or their own small night club.[/QUOTE]Which would be the minimum budget for this experience (I understand that there are many additional expenses that can be added), but I am talking about the hotel and the escort. Thanks!

Believe it or not, in Bogota in Chapinero I have seen a "Ley Seca Bar". One block from Pussy House.

This big photo is posted in front of the Juan Valdez at Oviedo Mall. It is supposed to advertise a fashion brand, but I am sure that this girl, dressed in that way, in that location, and with that caption underneath, will make all ISG members to wonder something different.
(Why the photo does not show up with preview??)

Hola amigos, I've been lurking here at the Medellin thread for some time now, lots of good info! So I finally pulled the trigger and booked a nice 2 bedroom apartment in El Poblado, Bosques de Provinza Medellin Cra 36. I will be there in late July.

I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2194509]...but I am sure that this girl, dressed in that way, in that location, and with that caption underneath, will make all ISG members to wonder something different.
(Why the photo does not show up with preview??)[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I failed to see your insinuation in that pic, even after reading your message. OTOH, I have seen many fashion posters in Medellin, with stronger sexual suggestions than this particular one.

[QUOTE=TyDown;2194602]I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?[/QUOTE]1) WHY NOT? This is not the Borneo jungle.

2) WHY DO YOU NEED IT? Please be aware of roaming charges.

What I do is the following (others will advise differently, especially those who have a plan including roaming for a small fee):

1) I keep my phone with its European SIM card. I do not answer calls, but I call back using WeChatOut (I am always online via wifi, see below) instead of SkypeOut, which I find cumbersome.

2) I have a local SIM card of Movistar, which never expires apparently. I put it in a cheap GSM phone and I just top it up 20k COP for a week of local calls.
Why the cheap phone? For when I go to places where I don't want to have expensive items with me.

3) I have a 4G Mobile WIFI modem. I buy a Claro SIM card with a 500MB data plan, which costs about 50k total. Last time, I topped up extra 50k, to buy a 2GB data plan lasting one month. With this modem, I have my portable wifi always with me. I use my regular phone with its European SIM, but online connected to the portable wifi. Perfect.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2194614]Sorry, but I failed to see your insinuation in that pic, even after reading your message. OTOH, I have seen many fashion posters in Medellin, with stronger sexual suggestions than this particular one.[/QUOTE]Maybe because in my country, but not in yours, there are African SWs soliciting men in dilapidated country areas as the one I see in the background of that photo. My friends who saw the photo laughed a lot as well.

P.S.: besides everything, I don't think that those fashion items are classy, but this is objectionable. :p

[QUOTE=TyDown;2194602]I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?
[/QUOTE]I've been to Colombia twice and had no problem using my AT&T phone. However, my company has my phone set up for international roaming and AT&T charges $10/ day when you use it. If my company wasn't paying for this anyway, I'd buy a local SIM and use that.

Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2194616]1) WHY NOT? This is not the Borneo jungle.

2) WHY DO YOU NEED IT? Please be aware of roaming charges.

What I do is the following (others will advise differently, especially those who have a plan including roaming for a small fee):

1) I keep my phone with its European SIM card. I do not answer calls, but I call back using WeChatOut (I am always online via wifi, see below) instead of SkypeOut, which I find cumbersome.

2) I have a local SIM card of Movistar, which never expires apparently. I put it in a cheap GSM phone and I just top it up 20k COP for a week of local calls.
Why the cheap phone? For when I go to places where I don't want to have expensive items with me..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KelJo;2194622]I've been to Colombia twice and had no problem using my AT&T phone. However, my company has my phone set up for international roaming and AT&T charges $10/ day when you use it. If my company wasn't paying for this anyway, I'd buy a local SIM and use that.[/QUOTE]Thanks KelJo, I have international roaming already, so I should be good to go.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2194727]Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.[/QUOTE]Yes, good point, but I am in love with my S7 Edge phone and no way I would change it unless I lose it. Basically, for me changing a phone or a computer, having to reinstall everything or reconfigure all options to make it looking exactly the same as the one I am used to, is a big trouble and try to avoid that.

I found this MIFI a very good solution to keep my phone AS IT IS still being online using a local card.

PS: Admin will reprimand us because we chit-chat about phones instead of talking about pussy, but you all may notice that my report about pussy fell into silence (of course, comment what?), but a post about a SIM card wakes up lots of reactions.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2194727]Look into dual SIM phones. They are very convenient for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. You must unlock the phone.[/QUOTE]Excuse me but who actually sells a "locked" phone with dual SIMs, when it is obviously for use with two different service providers? That's the who purpose of dual SIM phones, which is why any dual SIM GSM phone you see will be unlocked from the factory.

Yes, you are right, dual SIM phones are sold unlocked. You must unlock single SIM phones. Excuse me for not being clear.

Back to pussy, the old standby chicas puntocom and its upstairs neighbor are having a bit of a staffing slump in recent weeks. If anybody notices a change please let us know. Luna Lunera is asking 150 k these days.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2195038]Excuse me but who actually sells a "locked" phone with dual SIMs, when it is obviously for use with two different service providers? That's the who purpose of dual SIM phones, which is why any dual SIM GSM phone you see will be unlocked from the factory.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TyDown;2194602]Hola amigos, I've been lurking here at the Medellin thread for some time now, lots of good info! So I finally pulled the trigger and booked a nice 2 bedroom apartment in El Poblado, Bosques de Provinza Medellin Cra 36. I will be there in late July.

I need a little help here, will my AT&T iPhone work there in Medellin?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, but roaming charges are high. There is a $10/ day international roaming that you should get, they charge you that even if you only make 1 call or text. I didn't know this and my Colombian cell broke, so I was forced to use my ATT phone for 2 days. I made about 4 short phone calls and a few texts, and paid $90. US carriers rip you off even more by charging for outgoing and incoming calls.

Get a unlocked GSM phone. Buy a local sim card (Tigo, Claro, Moviestar) and put 5000 COP (less than $2) for each day of your stay. You will have enough voice and data for 1/10th the cost.

[b]21:00[/b]

I enter the same restaurant NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas) mentioned at [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2193428&viewfull=1#post2193428[/URL].
Waiters come to me smiling: "A beer sir?" "No, I want juice".
Big consternation, open arms, then solved by my smile "Of course I want beer. I was just joking!".
Good steak, good service.

[b]24:00[/b]

Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle!
I enter the jacuzzi, and a chubby mulata starts playing with my dick after 5 minutes of conversation.

I keep my enthusiasm low, because I think she must be paid by the owner (there is a dancer who entertains single men in a gangbang, attraction of that night), but I quickly discover she's NOT!
She went there accompanied by a friend, who however is around chasing other girls. She's bored as hell, and she's happy to have found my dick to keep her entertained.

We play half an hour in the pool, then we move to the Turco. She was just waiting a place to suck it. She's good as few ones at it!
We spend two hours fucking around the turco, the rooms, even the pool.

[b]2:00[/b]

Time to leave. The place is closing. I propose them to go to Centro for some bar hopping, but at 2:00 all bars close by police order.
He leaves her in my hands and goes home.

We ask the taxi to take us to some amanecero. We go somewhere near the Hospital metro station, 2 stations after Prado. The area is so lonely. What a contrast with theh busy hours in the day.
The amanecero is a small dilapidated bar, hidden behind a closed door guarded by a couple of guys, at the side of "Grotta de Hierro", a seedy love hotel. I love these clandestine places.
Few people, some drunk men, some old ladies to entertain customers, me and her with our beers sitting at a table with ladies coming to chat with us.
Music is good though. We can also dance, the two of us.

She shows me her carnet. She's a nurse! Gosh I wish she had her uniform with her.

[b]3:00 [/b]

We walk to a nearby cheap love hotel. I proceed to fuck directly her ass, without asking "May I?"

[b]4:00[/b]

I come. She sucks my ball dry and slurps till the last drop. Good girl.
I am dead, deprived of all energies and I can't wait to go sleep.
By the way, I am expected to take a taxi to airport at 9:00, if I don't want to miss my flight.

The unexpected problem comes then. She goes to shower and she tells me "Are you ready or you need 10 minutes? I want a second turn".
GOSH! I am dead. I am 50+, yes!

I frankly tell her that it's out of question that I can do it again now, I am a single-shoot guy, I am dead now after hours of sex under multiple facets, and I must go to my hotel because I have a taxi to take in few hours.
She does not want to hear any excuse. She proceeds to suck my flaccid dick for a few minutes without listening my prays. She gets some reaction, but no more than that.

[b]4:30[/b]

We say bye. I give her 50 k for her taxi.
She tells me that next time she can even bring friends.
She's LOVELY!

[b]5:00[/b]

I enter my bed in my hotel at Oviedo. WOW WHAT A NIGHT!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2195166][b]21:00[/b]

Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle![/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. Please educate me because I have no experience in swing clubs. What are the top 3 swing clubs in Medellin? And it seems that every club has pros that they call? How does that work and how much is that usually? How much are the entrance fees? Any other tips advice I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

You can get a dual SIM version S7, save your configuration and settings of your current phone and transfer almost exactly as it is to the new phone. You could keep the mifi for home use and you would have a WiFi hot spot in your pocket wherever you need it.

Back to girls, the stream of new Venezuelans arriving has not slowed down. It's a rare Centro casa that does not have a few at least on any given day.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2194929]Yes, good point, but I am in love with my S7 Edge phone and no way I would change it unless I lose it. Basically, for me changing a phone or a computer, having to reinstall everything or reconfigure all options to make it looking exactly the same as the one I am used to, is a big trouble and try to avoid that.

I found this MIFI a very good solution to keep my phone AS IT IS still being online using a local card.

PS: Admin will reprimand us because we chit-chat about phones instead of talking about pussy, but you all may notice that my report about pussy fell into silence (of course, comment what?), but a post about a SIM card wakes up lots of reactions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2195166][b]21:00[/b]

I enter the same restaurant NAME-REMOVED (Steak House on Av. De Las Palmas) mentioned at [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2193428&viewfull=1#post2193428[/URL].
Waiters come to me smiling: "A beer sir?" "No, I want juice".
Big consternation, open arms, then solved by my smile "Of course I want beer. I was just joking!".
Good steak, good service.

[b]24:00[/b]

Most Swinger Clubs are open to single men on Monday. I opt for Club Lily, after having called others and having heard there is little people. At Lily, I find not less than a dozen of couples! Giggle!
I enter the jacuzzi, and a chubby mulata starts playing with my dick after 5 minutes of conversation.

I keep my enthusiasm low, because I think she must be paid by the owner (there is a dancer who entertains single men in a gangbang, attraction of that night), but I quickly discover she's NOT!
She went there accompanied by a friend, who however is around chasing other girls. She's bored as hell, and she's happy to have found my dick to keep her entertained.

We play half an hour in the pool, then we move to the Turco. She was just waiting a place to suck it. She's good as few ones at it!
We spend two hours fucking around the turco, the rooms, even the pool.

[b]2:00[/b]

Time to leave. The place is closing. I propose them to go to Centro for some bar hopping, but at 2:00 all bars close by police order.
He leaves her in my hands and goes home.

We ask the taxi to take us to some amanecero. We go somewhere near the Hospital metro station, 2 stations after Prado. The area is so lonely. What a contrast with theh busy hours in the day.
The amanecero is a small dilapidated bar, hidden behind a closed door guarded by a couple of guys, at the side of "Grotta de Hierro", a seedy love hotel. I love these clandestine places.
Few people, some drunk men, some old ladies to entertain customers, me and her with our beers sitting at a table with ladies coming to chat with us.
Music is good though. We can also dance, the two of us.

She shows me her carnet. She's a nurse! Gosh I wish she had her uniform with her.

[b]3:00 [/b]

We walk to a nearby cheap love hotel. I proceed to fuck directly her ass, without asking "May I?"

[b]4:00[/b]

I come. She sucks my ball dry and slurps till the last drop. Good girl.
I am dead, deprived of all energies and I can't wait to go sleep.
By the way, I am expected to take a taxi to airport at 9:00, if I don't want to miss my flight.

The unexpected problem comes then. She goes to shower and she tells me "Are you ready or you need 10 minutes? I want a second turn".
GOSH! I am dead. I am 50+, yes!

I frankly tell her that it's out of question that I can do it again now, I am a single-shoot guy, I am dead now after hours of sex under multiple facets, and I must go to my hotel because I have a taxi to take in few hours.
She does not want to hear any excuse. She proceeds to suck my flaccid dick for a few minutes without listening my prays. She gets some reaction, but no more than that.

[b]4:30[/b]

We say bye. I give her 50 k for her taxi.
She tells me that next time she can even bring friends.
She's LOVELY!

[b]5:00[/b]

I enter my bed in my hotel at Oviedo. WOW WHAT A NIGHT![/QUOTE]A great night, you lucky man! BTW me too as a single-shot guy, 50+ I have been in the same situation and will be again, heck maybe even tonight in centro.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2195065]Yes, but roaming charges are high. There is a $10/ day international roaming that you should get, they charge you that even if you only make 1 call or text. I didn't know this and my Colombian cell broke, so I was forced to use my ATT phone for 2 days. I made about 4 short phone calls and a few texts, and paid $90. US carriers rip you off even more by charging for outgoing and incoming calls.

Get a unlocked GSM phone. Buy a local sim card (Tigo, Claro, Moviestar) and put 5000 COP (less than $2) for each day of your stay. You will have enough voice and data for 1/10th the cost.[/QUOTE]Thanks Queens!

[QUOTE=CakeJake;2193888]Which would be the minimum budget for this experience (I understand that there are many additional expenses that can be added), but I am talking about the hotel and the escort. Thanks![/QUOTE]The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.

The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.

Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.

Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2195250]A great night, you lucky man! BTW me too as a single-shot guy, 50+ I have been in the same situation and will be again, heck maybe even tonight in centro.TTM.[/QUOTE]Hey, for me "single-shot guy" means one who likes to entertain himself and possibly the lady for [I]HOURS[/I], concluding with a majestic waterfall, rather than having many insignificant micro-shots one after the other like a rabbit <g .

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2195215]Thanks for your report. Please educate me because I have no experience in swing clubs. What are the top 3 swing clubs in Medellin? And it seems that every club has pros that they call? How does that work and how much is that usually? How much are the entrance fees? Any other tips advice I would appreciate it.
Thanks![/QUOTE]I would not advise to go, if you never went before to one in your country. Otherwise, you add the novelty of the place (do you know how to behave?) to the novelty of the country (is Colombia the same as your country?) and you increase the probability to feel like a fish in a sand desert.
In particular, I am skeptical because you ask "How does that work". If you need to ask, don't go.
Personally, I have NEVER met any single foreigner in Medellin or Bogota clubs. They are small, they are for locals, and only a small fraction of percentage of locals would consider to go there.
However, swinger clubs in Bogota and Medellin have been widely treated in ISG. Use the "Search" function and explore.

I have been in just 3 clubs in Medellin (those mentioned in ISG), but the girl I met last Monday told me there are at least four more, and according to her opinion the best is not one of the three I know. She gave me some names and I cannot wait to explore, next time I will be there.
She even told me there is one in Cartagena, attended by locals! This sounds very odd and unprobable to me, as I don't think costenhos are very advanced in this, but she seems trustable to me.

A real swinger club should NOT have pros there, but in some club, on some nights (gangbang nights), I have seen they hired a dancer and, after dancing, she was available on a central sofa to everyone around (all covered including BJ, as obvious). I never took part to it.
Some other nights, there were dancers, but they were not joining any sexual activity. Just sex dancing on the pole.

I have some experience of swinger clubs in Europe and in Colombia they are really different. While a single male in Europe pays 150-200 EUR as admittance fee, Colombia is CHEAP (from 100k down to 30k). But also the facilities are significantly cheaper and run down. In addition, there are no large clubs as in Europe, where some can have up to 100 couples on a Saturday night.

Overall, Colombians are not so pervert as Europeans. They are more conservative. Many women will go around with breast covered. In addition, most Colombians do not really swing. I cannot imagine a local macho happy to see his real wife fondled by someone else, even worse seeing her sucking other dicks. Real couples will play with other couples, but without exchanging partners. I have seen rarely the cuckold thing. Those couples who are open to exchange are most commonly not couples in the real life, but fuck-friends, or the man paid the girl to be accompanied there.

And for someone experienced at this in the US but with just a bit of Spanish?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2195300]I would not advise to go, if you never went before to one in your country. Otherwise, you add the novelty of the place (do you know how to behave?) to the novelty of the country (is Colombia the same as your country?) and you increase the probability to feel like a fish in a sand desert.
In particular, I am skeptical because you ask "How does that work". If you need to ask, don't go.
Personally, I have NEVER met any single foreigner in Medellin or Bogota clubs. They are small, they are for locals, and only a small fraction of percentage of locals would consider to go there.
However, swinger clubs in Bogota and Medellin have been widely treated in ISG. Use the "Search" function and explore.

I have been in just 3 clubs in Medellin (those mentioned in ISG), but the girl I met last Monday told me there are at least four more, and according to her opinion the best is not one of the three I know. She gave me some names and I cannot wait to explore, next time I will be there.
She even told me there is one in Cartagena, attended by locals! This sounds very odd and unprobable to me, as I don't think costenhos are very advanced in this, but she seems trustable to me.
.[/QUOTE]

My opinion is all those number are extremely high for Medellin. I'm told there are many English speaking people among the clientele, employees, and owners.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2195260]The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.

The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.

Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.

Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2195357]My opinion is all those number are extremely high for Medellin. I'm told there are many English speaking people among the clientele, employees, and owners.[/QUOTE]The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.

Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.

Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.

But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.

Touch down in Medellíand around 1 pm. Caught an Uber from the airport cost 50 k. Met him in the airport to avoid his fears of the taxi mafia. I usually try to stay in centro because it's close to where I want to be. Never stayed in Poblado or hobbied there, maybe I will see what all the fuss is about on day. Drop my bags of took a shower and head across the street to eat. Typical Colombian almuerzo with carne de res, rice, beans, eggs, papa fritas, sancocho and jugo de lujo. All for 12 k.

After lunch I went to New Life. About 10 girls available. Most I have seen before but a few I haven't. I'm always on the search for a nice ass. Didn't see one here. I then walked down to Zandalays hoping a big booty Paisas was still there but to my dismay she must no longer work there. Another place where the world cup theme was present. All the girls had on bikini like Colombian flag inspired clothes. They actually all looked pretty sexy in them. Next, I want to Chicas con Punto because I usually find a big ass there. And sure enough I did. The Host always remembers me because I once told her and her husband I wanted to session with her not know that was her husband. LOL. He was cool about it. Anyway, I selected 23 year Paisa Vanessa. I could see her rounded hips walking to me. I knew she had a big butt. So I booked her and was not disappointed. Super soft skin. A natural fat ass, a rarity here. The pussy was dripping wet and also felt satin soft inside. Enjoyed myself very much. 42 k for 30 minutes.

Fully satisfied but still curious, I walked down to Calle 50 to see what the street scene was looking like. Nothing of note there. When I first came to Medellin, I could always find a few that intrigued me. It seems no longer be the case. I decided to walk back to the apartment and remember I forgot a casa. I stopped by Amigas Sexi. And I spotted a few I would have sessioned with. Could definitely see if the 9-10 girls there were there, about 4-5 were Venezuelan. So I mentally booked this one girl with a fat ass, Tatiana, to come back tomorrow and session with. Got back to the apartment and rested up until night time.

Headed back out at around 11:30 pm. Took an Uber straight to Barra Ejecutiva. There were some good looking women in here tonight and it wasn't packed with dudes. When I first walked in a girl jumped in my way to get my attention. I was trying to see all the girls and dismissed her. Bad decision by me because she had the nice ass in there and I didn't realize until it was too late. She was always booked that night LOL. Anyway, sat down peeped the scene. Picked another fat ass calenas named Manuela. For some reason she wouldn't tell me her age. But she had the best pussy of the trip. I could have came in like 2 minutes but I soldier through. Her ass had to be fake but felt so real. 70 k for 30 minutes well spent. After that, I wanted to see what the other clubs offered. I went into Maracaibo next door. I never sessioned here because the talent is usually better at Barra but there were some decent looking women in there. I kept it moving. I walked down to Conejitas. About 8 girls there. Nothing of note. Then I walked up to Yakuzas. About 6 girls available. I never find anything I like here because they look too young to me. But I will say usually the host and the girls are so nice, its worth the look. One of the guys told me tell him which type of girl I like and he will bring her to my hotel. I passed but appreciated the gesture. It started to rain heavier so I walked back to Barra Ejecutiva to call and Uber. Seemed like no Uber wanted to come down there so I stay inside and watch the girls. Then I saw this tall, ultra thick, humongous ass women with a nerdy look because of her glasses. So I was just curious how much for a session. She was so nice had girl next door vibe so I said what the hell let's go. This girl was the best performer of the trip so far. She really love to fuck. She pulled ice out from I don't know where and sucked my dick with it. While I'm fucking her, she asked me to fuck her ass which has never happened to me in Colombia more of a Brazilian behavior. So I was like claro que sí LOL. I fucked the shit out of that fat ass no pun intended LOL. Really good session for 80 k but I tipped her well for that experience.

So, I went back into the hallway to wait for an Uber. And like 5 different girls kept on trying to get me to fuck. But I was done for the day. Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Global00;2195547]Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Thanks for blessing us with an excellent report. Do you get the apartment near downtown from airbnb or what?

I stayed at the Mansion for a couple of nights when I was a newbie and was curious about it.

It is a good place if you are unfamiliar with Medellin and have a limited understanding of spanish.

My room was nice, I believe it ran me about $100 for the night.

Advantages.

1) You will meet fellow mongers that you can share experiences with and notes.

2) English is spoken by staff and clientele.

3) Girls come to the mansion throughout the day and evening. There is a small bar area downstairs and a pool where girls can be found.

Disadvantages.

1) Prices for the girls tend to be on the high side. My understanding is girls will try to stick to 200 K for one pop. Some will want more pending on services. (I was able to negotiate for 2 pops for 180 K but I speak fluent spanish).

2) Breakfast is served but it is only at a certain time. Inconvient as most hotels have buffets for a period of time.

3) If you arrange to have car service to the airport they will add on a bit extra to the normal cost.

4) Difficult to negotiate as all the girls know each other and they will try to stick to the "mansion prices".

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2195420]The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.

Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.

Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.

But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.[/QUOTE]

Yes sir. Airbnb has served me nicely. I try to look for ones that are fairly modern, wifi and hot water LOL. And most of the places downtown are cheap. Some people may be concerned about safety but I know you are not LOL. It's safe here just have to be aware just like everyone else. And I appreciate all your reports I learned alot from you and the vets on this site. Just trying to do my part.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2195554]Thanks for blessing us with an excellent report. Do you get the apartment near downtown from airbnb or what?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2195420]The price is relatively high for someone that has the time to find hotter girls that will provide a very good girlfriend experience. But it is as close to a guaranteed good time as you can get.

Like I have said before. The Mansion is the first place a newbie should go when he gets to Medellin and the last place a guy who lives in Medellin full time should go.

Nothing beats finding hot chicks on your own and negotiating some kind of exclusive agreement. Forget the GFE. You can get the hot wife experience where a hot chick will live with you for weeks or months here for a fraction of what a Mansion chick would cost you.

But for guys just showing up for a week or so the Mansion chicks are as good as it gets for providing a GFE IMHO.[/QUOTE]Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.

[QUOTE=Global00;2195547]Touch down in Medelland around 1 pm. Caught an Uber from the airport cost 50 k. Met him in the airport to avoid his fears of the taxi mafia. I usually try to stay in centro because it's close to where I want to be. Never stayed in Poblado or hobbied there, maybe I will see what all the fuss is about on day. Drop my bags of took a shower and head across the street to eat. Typical Colombian almuerzo with carne de res, rice, beans, eggs, papa fritas, sancocho and jugo de lujo. All for 12 k.

After lunch I went to New Life. About 10 girls available. Most I have seen before but a few I haven't. I'm always on the search for a nice ass. Didn't see one here. I then walked down to Zandalays hoping a big booty Paisas was still there but to my dismay she must no longer work there. Another place where the world cup theme was present. All the girls had on bikini like Colombian flag inspired clothes. They actually all looked pretty sexy in them. Next, I want to Chicas con Punto because I usually find a big ass there. And sure enough I did. The Host always remembers me because I once told her and her husband I wanted to session with her not know that was her husband. LOL. He was cool about it. Anyway, I selected 23 year Paisa Vanessa. I could see her rounded hips walking to me. I knew she had a big butt. So I booked her and was not disappointed. Super soft skin. A natural fat ass, a rarity here. The pussy was dripping wet and also felt satin soft inside. Enjoyed myself very much. 42 k for 30 minutes.

Fully satisfied but still curious, I walked down to Calle 50 to see what the street scene was looking like. Nothing of note there. When I first came to Medellin, I could always find a few that intrigued me. It seems no longer be the case. I decided to walk back to the apartment and remember I forgot a casa. I stopped by Amigas Sexi. And I spotted a few I would have sessioned with. Could definitely see if the 9-10 girls there were there, about 4-5 were Venezuelan. So I mentally booked this one girl with a fat ass, Tatiana, to come back tomorrow and session with. Got back to the apartment and rested up until night time.

Headed back out at around 11:30 pm. Took an Uber straight to Barra Ejecutiva. There were some good looking women in here tonight and it wasn't packed with dudes. When I first walked in a girl jumped in my way to get my attention. I was trying to see all the girls and dismissed her. Bad decision by me because she had the nice ass in there and I didn't realize until it was too late. She was always booked that night LOL. Anyway, sat down peeped the scene. Picked another fat ass calenas named Manuela. For some reason she wouldn't tell me her age. But she had the best pussy of the trip. I could have came in like 2 minutes but I soldier through. Her ass had to be fake but felt so real. 70 k for 30 minutes well spent. After that, I wanted to see what the other clubs offered. I went into Maracaibo next door. I never sessioned here because the talent is usually better at Barra but there were some decent looking women in there. I kept it moving. I walked down to Conejitas. About 8 girls there. Nothing of note. Then I walked up to Yakuzas. About 6 girls available. I never find anything I like here because they look too young to me. But I will say usually the host and the girls are so nice, its worth the look. One of the guys told me tell him which type of girl I like and he will bring her to my hotel. I passed but appreciated the gesture. It started to rain heavier so I walked back to Barra Ejecutiva to call and Uber. Seemed like no Uber wanted to come down there so I stay inside and watch the girls. Then I saw this tall, ultra thick, humongous ass women with a nerdy look because of her glasses. So I was just curious how much for a session. She was so nice had girl next door vibe so I said what the hell let's go. This girl was the best performer of the trip so far. She really love to fuck. She pulled ice out from I don't know where and sucked my dick with it. While I'm fucking her, she asked me to fuck her ass which has never happened to me in Colombia more of a Brazilian behavior. So I was like claro que s LOL. I fucked the shit out of that fat ass no pun intended LOL. Really good session for 80 k but I tipped her well for that experience.

So, I went back into the hallway to wait for an Uber. And like 5 different girls kept on trying to get me to fuck. But I was done for the day. Finally my Uber arrived and I went home and slept like a satisfied man thanks to the great ass day in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Great run down and wow you touched down at 1 pm and had an afternoon and evening till the early morning hours packed with monger activities!

I have had more visits to Barra Ejecutive and next door Maricaibo this months long stay than ever before in my 5 years plus of medellin visits. Is it only me but to access the rooms at either of these 2 strip bars you need to have nerves of steel, as should a fire or other emergency occur when your back in those rooms you toast. Yes I have also took out girls from both of these clubs but I always want to check them out first before I make any longer term / extended stays.

The same here with New Life, the best ones I have sessioned with before, a few as almost 2 years ago, so nothing much new to keep my interest in returning.

Stay safe!

TTM.

This can be an advantage or disadvantage. I have trimmed my stays at the Mansion / Castillo to once a year now. I travel to MDE monthly, but stay in an apartment the other times.

If you are new and IF you pick the right guy, you can learn a lot and get some referrals. But be careful. A lot of guys their talk a lot of shit about how great they are, how much they know about Medellin, how many chicas they have on a leash, etc. Boring. I remember listening to one guy try to "tell me how it was. " I let him talk. When he was finished telling me a bunch of inaccurate information, I asked him about his experience. He had been once before! Jejejeje I have been visiting Colombia for 12 years. When there was no Castillo and La Cueva was garage.

Also, if you are the kind of guy who doesn't like to go out and would rather pass the afternoon drinking on the pool deck, talking to other gringos and some chicas, this might be the place to go also.

I will be there for the July 1 party and am looking forward to getting some numbers and seeing some of the old regulars who I have known for a while. Now that I don't stay there often, I am not as familiar with the new crowd. We'll see how they are. Most of the guys that I knew well (and who helped me when I was less experienced) now stay in apartments. So I pretty much keep to myself, other than talking to the veterans. If there are any newbies around during the holiday weekend and you want to ask questions, I'm open to that. Just PM me. I certainly do not know everything, but I've been coming to Colombia for a long time to monger and I also have the perspective of being married to a Colombiana for 9 years (my ex-wife now).

P.S. - no matter how much experience you have, you can still learn. I get a lot of good information from this board.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2195599]

Advantages.

1) You will meet fellow mongers that you can share experiences with and notes.

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[QUOTE=Dccpa;2195629]Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.[/QUOTE]They have been open a very long time walking a fine line between being a hotel and a wh0 reh0 use so I'm sure they are paying a hefty "tax" to someone or someones. But be that as it may, how do you know they don't pay legitimate taxes, are you their accountant, LOL?

Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.

Nerves of steel is right. That circular tiny staircase through the men's urinal is definitely risky. But when your horny your mind isn't as clear as it should be. LOL. And new life is what it is. Mongering, in my opinion is hit or miss. That definitely goes for casas.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2195683]Great run down and wow you touched down at 1 pm and had an afternoon and evening till the early morning hours packed with monger activities!

I have had more visits to Barra Ejecutive and next door Maricaibo this months long stay than ever before in my 5 years plus of medellin visits. Is it only me but to access the rooms at either of these 2 strip bars you need to have nerves of steel, as should a fire or other emergency occur when your back in those rooms you toast. Yes I have also took out girls from both of these clubs but I always want to check them out first before I make any longer term / extended stays.

The same here with New Life, the best ones I have sessioned with before, a few as almost 2 years ago, so nothing much new to keep my interest in returning.

Stay safe!

TTM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dccpa;2195629]Charging customers for the 19% tax that they then pocket was the deal breaker for me.[/QUOTE]Plus:

-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.

-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).

[QUOTE=Queens35;2195716]Plus:

-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.

-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).[/QUOTE]I pay cash to avoid the credit card fee. They accept dollars and or pesos.

Not much of a drinker so I can't say what their policy is on liquor brought in from outside.

But I do know you can meet up to 20 chicks a day at the Mansion without having to call them up and wait for them to show up.

Just to find out that they don't look like the pics or you have no chemistry with them.

You see something you like. Just take her up to your room while you wait for your facebook regulars to show up.

[QUOTE=Hitman206;2195694]Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.[/QUOTE]Halloween, Super Bowl, 4th July parties are great times, % Robert's Birthday party is fantastic too, but varies when it is, (Usually around the first weekend in March, but have seen it from end -Feb- to mid-March).

Sunday morning. Get up around 10 am. Shower. Go get breakfast across the street. Finish up and text Amigas Sexi if Tatiana is available. Get reply back not now later today. So, I head down to Chica con Punta for my runner up big butt. I seen a Venezuelan there in my previous session. Sure enough she was there and ready when I got the by there. Brown skin pretty face 26 year old from Caracas. Said her name was Samira or Salome I honestly forget. Surgery done on breast, stomach and ass. Could see a botch surgery on right butt check but I pay it no mind. I pay for a good lay not perfection. Jump right into it and enjoy pump that frame from the back. Hot ass hell in there even with the fan. LOL. Change positions a few times. Gradually it's become harder to finish due to over satisfication but I make it through. Decent session with a little bit more focus. 42 k for 30 minutes.

Decide to go relax and watch the game. Settle over at bar / restaurant by Nutibara which is packed because of the game. Relax, snack and watch the fans hang onto every mood and play. Happy that they won I finally get text Tatiana arrive. So I walk back to Amiga Sexi. Get there and she is waiting for me. Paid my dues and head straight to the room. I find out she is 29 Paisa. Fake tits and ass. She massages me up a little bit chit chat a little and then it's on and pounding time. Definitely went past 30 minutes I paid for but no one cared. I enjoyed it especially the fat butt and very warm vagina. But she wouldn't let me take a pic due to large tattoo that's just above her ass. Bummer. 48 k for 30 minutes.

Decided it's time for some rest. Get back to the apartment shower up throughly and take a siesta. Wake up around 9:30 pm. Check my phone got some Tinder request. Really haven't been checking them all trip. One intrigues me enough to exchange WhatsApp. She tells me straight up she is an escort and says her services are 250 k an hour. I asked for pics knowing I'm not going to pay it but would post her pics and info to anyone that might be interested. PM for number pics are below.

I hit up Barra Ejecutiva. I just like this place and tonight was even better because no one was in there but 5 guys and 20 plus girls. I know who I was looking for. The big butt I missed on yesterday. But it was hard to get to her at first due to the attention I was getting being one of the only guys in there. But finally broke through and settled on 70 k for 30 minutes. 24 year old Caramel skin Venezuelan. Real nice meaty fake ass. She had braces and too much make up but I enjoyed her in doggy for 20 minutes. After I finish she let me get a memory of the beautiful view which I share with you guys. Totally satisfied got the night. I head back to the apartment. Tommorow I'm going try some different places I don't usually go to. Wish me luck.

Wow! I would not put up with any of this. It makes me think of the old movie line "kiss me", "why?" because I like to be kissed before I get fucked.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2195716]Plus:

-Charging 25% extra for credit card payments.

-Charging people for drinking their own liquor outside of your room (not sure if they are still doing this).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2195243]You can get a dual SIM version S7, save your configuration and settings of your current phone and transfer almost exactly as it is to the new phone. You could keep the mifi for home use and you would have a WiFi hot spot in your pocket wherever you need it.

Back to girls, the stream of new Venezuelans arriving has not slowed down. It's a rare Centro casa that does not have a few at least on any given day.[/QUOTE]Could you name a few casas? Please.

Has any buddy got anything on Rionegro, I'll be in Medellin on Sept 13 to the 24th but on the last 2 or 3 days I,m think of checking out Rionegro. About a Year ago when I was on a layover (because they put the wrong gate on my ticket) a local let me stay at his house in Rionegro and the next day he took me to the strip club just to help me kill some time. The club had doors like a wild wild west movie. I didn't talk to any girls since I didn't know what the guy I was with would think (acting like I was in the states) but I bet the girls are at good prices) but I was wondering if anyone knows what the place I'm talking about or if you have any info or advice you could share would help me out a lot.

Thanks.

Try to visit a few different casas today with one of my regulars.

First up was Amigas Sexi. It's just so close to where I'm staying and I like the girls and facilities. I went with 26 year old Blanca Estrella. She had a nice shape to her and her butt was bigger than I anticipated. I also like the shape of her pussy. Like fat puffy pussy. Innies are my favorite. Nice soft skin. Sweet girl. Wanted to exchange numbers and actually sent me a picture of that booty. 48 k.

Dulce Compañía Carrerra 45 #57-55.

9 girls. I would say age range from 18-19 to late 20's. Half doable. Girls next door looks. No enhancements. Two girls stick out. A skinny Emily. Pretty face. And a big breasted Vanessa with a baby face. Didn't session. I believe the host told me 40 k for 30 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without a session.

Pamela Carrera 45 #57-71.

5 girls. Maybe one doable. Girl next door looks. No enchantments. Age range was in 20's. 40 k for 3 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without session. Didn't session.

Barcelona Calle 59 #50-12.

Five girls. 4 indo skin and one Negra. Age in 20's. No enhancements. Maybe two were doable. 40 k 30 minutes. 5 k viewing fee. No session here.

La Casa De Dona FAnny Calle 61 #53-08.

Door was open so I walked up stairs to white gate door. Lady eating soup told no girls were here yet and to come back later. I didn't ask her when and went to the next place.

Artesenias Calle 61 53-78.

There is 3 different buzzers to enter the building. I randomly selected the one on the left of the door (the other two are on the right) and they buzzed me in. You walk into one room where two guys and a girl were talking and then there was the room the chicas were watching TV. A young guy in a blue server shirt tells me you have to consume something and it cost 4 k and pointed to sign saying the same thing. I asked him if he presented the girls, he said no they are all in here and you chose one. There were 7 girls if you included the one talking to two guys in the other room. All were decent looking and doable. Two stood out and were enhanced. The other were girl next door. I would guess as young as 18 through late 20's. One of the prettier ones stood up so I could see her. And I could see she was antsy to come over to me. When I called the host over she thought I was talking to her and was about to come over. I eventually did call her over because she had the ass I was seeking. She came over. I asked her how much. She said 70 k I countered with 50 k and we agreed on 60 k with pictures. Her name is Daniela a Paisa who didn't want to tell me here age. She looked 25. Caramel skin. Paisas baby faced from Medellin. And boy oh boy did she put on a shoe. Extremely active session. She rode the hell out of me. Sucked my nipples whole doing it. Pulled me into her in doggy. Telling to fuck her hard and grabbing and smacking my ass in missionary while she is telling me she is cummin. So much fun. I felt like I'm the one who got fucked. All good with me. We exchanged info. And I was exhausted and went back to the apartment to relax.

Got back to the apartment. Showered. Ate lunch and took a nap. Woke up around 10:30 and decided if I would go to fase dos since I have been there in a while. But decided against and went back to old faithful, Barra Ejecutiva. Same girls there small crowd as expected. There was a new girl I hadn't seen with a nice body dancing on stage. I waited for her to finish and do her rounds of collecting tips for the dance (they have to work so hard in strip clubs compared to states where it's a competition of how much money you can throw on stage). Asked for session and we settle on 70 k. A 24 year old Calenas named Paula. Her body looked natural besides her stomach. Ass wasn't outlandishly big. We porportioned. Tits were see's and hung slightly but still nice. The session was ok nothing spectacular but I think is because it's getting harder to come from all these sessions. LOL. She would not let me get pics. Can't win them all. Head back to the apartment for good nights rest.

New Life.

Aiffe.

Zandaly.

Amigas Sexxy.

Yakuza.

Chicas puntocom.

Etc.

There is a search function on this forum that you will find useful.

[QUOTE=ButtLuvr1;2196058]Could you name a few casas? Please.[/QUOTE]

Very nice roundup, thanks for this.

[QUOTE=Global00;2196177]Try to visit a few different casas today with one of my regulars.

First up was Amigas Sexi. It's just so close to where I'm staying and I like the girls and facilities. I went with 26 year old Blanca Estrella. She had a nice shape to her and her butt was bigger than I anticipated. I also like the shape of her pussy. Like fat puffy pussy. Innies are my favorite. Nice soft skin. Sweet girl. Wanted to exchange numbers and actually sent me a picture of that booty. 48 k.

Dulce Compaa Carrerra 45 #57-55.

9 girls. I would say age range from 18-19 to late 20's. Half doable. Girls next door looks. No enhancements. Two girls stick out. A skinny Emily. Pretty face. And a big breasted Vanessa with a baby face. Didn't session. I believe the host told me 40 k for 30 minutes. 2 k presentation fee without a session...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpotBlocker;2196065]Has any buddy got anything on Rionegro, I'll be in Medellin on Sept 13 to the 24th but on the last 2 or 3 days I,m think of checking out Rionegro. About a Year ago when I was on a layover (because they put the wrong gate on my ticket) a local let me stay at his house in Rionegro and the next day he took me to the strip club just to help me kill some time. The club had doors like a wild wild west movie. I didn't talk to any girls since I didn't know what the guy I was with would think (acting like I was in the states) but I bet the girls are at good prices) but I was wondering if anyone knows what the place I'm talking about or if you have any info or advice you could share would help me out a lot.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.

[QUOTE=ButtLuvr1;2196058]Could you name a few casas? Please.[/QUOTE][B]Look at the List!!![/B]

Invaluable source of information.

This is from my earlier this month. Remember, your opinion, preference or experience might differ. With casas, It's about the leg work. Every trip I try to visit as many casas as I can because the line up can change very dramatically. So you know, cardio.

The Amigas Sexxy casa was a big disappointment this trip, which is usually my first stop. I had met some really memorable girls there before. But this time the line up just wasn't there. I tried multiple days on different times and still nothing great. They were also trying to charge me 48 K for half an hour, which is just shy of new life prices. I have no problem with their ambitions, but they just don't have the quality, quantity or popularity to compete with new life. Rooms are quite nice though. I'll give them another chance next trip.

New Life's line up was okay. They are the most popular with the gringos, and they know it. The line up quality fluctuates quite a bit depending on the time of day and day of the week. The best time is around 1-2 pm when the morning and afternoon shift are both present. I'd say the quality of the girls drop a lot after 4-5 pm. Many of the girls leave by then. However, the quantity and variety of girls are good as they have about 20 girls most of the week. You'll most likely find someone doable, and they're open on the weekends. (different line up, though) . Half an hour is 50 K and an hour is 80 K. I recommend Camila. She is in her 20's with a pretty face and good rack. She is a tad bit princess for my taste but she is a solid choice.

For the rest of the casas, it was between 37 k to 42 k half an hour. Zandaly's line up is 80 percent the same from my previous visits. Quality wise it is just okay with around 10 girls available on the weekdays. Chicas Punto Com (2nd floor) and Sexy Fantasias 1 (3rd floor) are in the same building. Chicas Punto Com has a sorority house vibe and always have 10 to 20 girls. Girls are usually on the younger side. (early 20's) The quality isn't good, and the facilities are pretty bad. Most of the time you'll only find one or two girls who are doable and won't repeat. Sexy Fantasias have a smaller line up, and quality is the same as Sexy Fantasias 1. Yakusa is run like a frat house with 4-7 girls, run by frat boys. They tried to gringo price me at 50 k for half an hour. No thanks. You have the option to use the nearby hotel room for an extra fee. The basic room is hot and has no shower. But one thing that yakusa has going for it is that it's open late. (after 9 pm I think) Sexy Fantasias 2, affi, Paris club and Dulce Compania has around 4-8 girls on the weekdays. Their line up changes a lot every trip but I usually find one or two girls that is my taste and repeat. In the end, it's about exploring. With effort you'll find what you're looking for. Where, when, who, and what price is always a mystery, and that's part of the fun. If you manage your expectations, I think you can have a great time with or without knowing Spanish. The list and map in the forum is a great resource, and I highly recommend studying it before you get to Medellin.

Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2196327]I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2196502]Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.[/QUOTE]I spent one night in Rio Negro, in transit a few months ago. I did not feel like taking a taxi / bus to Medellin because I was leaving early the next day. I probably will do that again in the future, and I would love to get some intel on how one can get local poon.

When I did that last time, I had a Medellin fav come visit me at my hotel in Rio Negro. I had to pay her taxi, in addition to her donation. I am pretty sure she took the bus and pocketed the extra money.

[QUOTE=Wraith43;2196494]Yakusa is run like a frat house with 4-7 girls, run by frat boys. They tried to gringo price me at 50 k for half an hour. No thanks. You have the option to use the nearby hotel room for an extra fee. The basic room is hot and has no shower. But one thing that yakusa has going for it is that it's open late. (after 9 pm I think) [/QUOTE]It's open way later then that past 1 am /2 am on weeknights and past 3 am on weekends. They charged me 45 k with no takeout fee to my hotel across the street on multiple occasions.

Not always cuties but often enough for me to peek in. It's like a cross between a Casa and a very small strip club, Rosanna, who was one of the cuter ones at the time came out and did a whole strip show for me and a few locals, was very intimate and fun.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2196502]Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.[/QUOTE]That's the one, the small town next to the airport. I cruised if on Google Street View last year and found a whole block with obvious street girls standing in front of bars but forgot to write down what block that was.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2196502]Do you mean this Rionegro. It is a bit far from Medellin.[/QUOTE]Yes that's the place.

[QUOTE=Wraith43;2196494]New Life... I recommend Camila. She is in her 20's with a pretty face and good rack. She is a tad bit princess for my taste but she is a solid choice..[/QUOTE]YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.

La Galeria.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2196327]I found a red light block with girls on Google Street view last year, can't remember where in Rio Negro but a cab driver ought to be able to take you there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Queens35;2196653]YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.[/QUOTE]There are probably 1000 Camilas that rotate thru New Life and every other MP / Casa!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2196822]There are probably 1000 Camilas that rotate thru New Life and every other MP / Casa![/QUOTE]Yeah. But this one is in her 20's with a pretty face and a good rack.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2196618]It's open way later then that past 1 am /2 am on weeknights and past 3 am on weekends. They charged me 45 k with no takeout fee to my hotel across the street on multiple occasions.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the correction. I personally never developed much of a rapport with the staff at yakusa. Simply haven't frequent the place enough. My spanish is very poor as well. I'll poke in my head more next time.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2196653]YMMV. I had her twice and she was bad both times. Very mechanical. But maybe the best looking one there, very pretty face. I gave her a second chance hoping it would improve but it didn't. I didn't come either time. I can't get going when the chica is completely uninterested.[/QUOTE]I hear you. The first session I did with her was pretty good. Unfortunately, it got more mechanical afterwards. She does have the looks though. For some people that might be enough to enjoy themselves. As you said, YMMV. Thanks for the input.

What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?

Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?

[QUOTE=Kuranyi;2196841]What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?
Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]Look at the List. Search "love motel" or "love hotel" here.

Plenty of information reported and summarized.

[QUOTE=Kuranyi;2196841]What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?

Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]Here is a list of Love Motels (drop down list at the top).

[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/[/URL]

The only one I have used was Hotel Eros, hot tub and steam room: [URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/[/URL] It is right down in Centro at the end of the block from the Raudal red light block. The hot tub and steam room would be more fun in a hotel with AC though. I want to try 3 the Suites next time as they do have AC in the nicer rooms.

For a mid range girl friendly hotel I stay at the Botero. ($26 a night).

I have a long post about it in the Medellin Hotels thread. It is in Centro though which is not for everybody as it has a high crime rate. Although you only have to make it about 2 blocks to 4 strip club / bordellos and 2 Casa's and 2 redlight blocks so your exposure is limited. (plus you can cab after dark).

[QUOTE=Kuranyi;2196841]What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?

Any recommendations for a mid range girl-friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]They're places with rooms available for short term. They range from about 16 k for 2 hours up to about 90 k for 6 hours. Once you get past the 30-40 k price range they usually have a Jacuzzi.

Probably the best in Medellin is Motel Ibiza. About 90 k with Jacuzzi, stripper pole, love chair, great shower and everything you might need either in the mini fridge or just a phone call away. Supposedly they have great food for room service. They have a catalog in room with sex toys and costumes for purchase. They also have very good WiFi. Rate is for 6 hours.

There are probably some cheaper than 16 k. I've never looked for the low end places.

[QUOTE=Kuranyi;2196841]What's the thing with the love motels? Are they recommended?

[/QUOTE]For Love Hotels the "Presidential Suite" at Hotel Hawaii Suites looks pretty fun:

(at Carrera 44 Calle 47-35).

[URL]http://sexosentido.co/motel-hawaii-suite/habitacion-presidencial/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2196961]
Probably the best in Medellin is Motel Ibiza.
There are probably some cheaper than 16 k. I've never looked for the low end places.[/QUOTE]Again, the best we can recommend to someone who asks this question is [U]SEARCH THE FORUM and read the Medellin List[/U]. (RTFF in short)

There are long and detailed reports about several hotels here, providing much more information than just the name and the cost.

For example, if one just searches for "Black Page" and "Hotel", he can find photos and details about Hotel Lafayette (I posted about it less than one week ago, not ages ago) and Motel Ibiza, top of luxury, even with a suite including a steam bath for 8. I also tried some shithole in Centro and Nikitao which costed 5 k, but that's not for the fainthearted.

I am not advising to search for my posts because claiming my posts are the best ones. On the contrary. It is just an example. There is a WEALTH of information readily available at fingertips, if one is just not lazy and tries the "search" function or examines the List. How many days of work WT99 did spend to compile it? Why to disregard such a monumental compilation work?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2196906]The only one I have used was Hotel Eros, hot tub and steam room: It is right down in Centro at the end of the block from the Raudal red light block[/QUOTE]You might also try Lafayette, one block from Prado metro station, unexpected in one looks at the area.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2190665&viewfull=1#post2190665[/url].

[URL]http://motelpuntocero.com.co/web/suites/punto-cero-suite-presidencial/[/URL]

Preferably with three chicas.

[QUOTE=Hitman206;2195694]Is Halloween the best time to go if you are staying at the Mansion? The YouTube vid of the party looks pretty good.[/QUOTE]Link to video?

I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this personal pitch.

$55 per night. Private bathroom and big private balcony.

I know tons of girls who are not clock watchers and generally ask $30 - $50 short time.

Nearby local style lunches for around $3 -$4.

Grilled skirt steaks with arepa for $3.

Butterflied trout with soup and coconut rice for $4.

Walking distance to casas strip clubs and local hang out pick up spots.

Translations negotiations and recommendations included. I also give tours for a little extra.

Many times I have been complimented as making the best breakfast in Medellin. :D (N. American style).

Only catch is that if I never met you, you got to have solid references / referrals / reports.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2195260]The rooms at the mansion will run you anywhere between 75 and 100 bucks a night depending on the room.

The chicas will charge $55 for short time and about $110 for "todo la noche" at the current exchange rate.

Most chicas are 6 and 7's with an occasional 8 showing up mostly at night. GFE is the norm without an up sell for BBBJ.

Nice place to meet girls on the fly while still seeing other women you have lined up.[/QUOTE]

Seems like a good enough deal.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2197418]I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this personal pitch.

$55 per night. Private bathroom and big private balcony.

I know tons of girls who are not clock watchers and generally ask $30 - $50 short time.

Nearby local style lunches for around $3 -$4.

Grilled skirt steaks with arepa for $3.

Butterflied trout with soup and coconut rice for $4..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HBoy54;2197127][URL]http://motelpuntocero.com.co/web/suites/punto-cero-suite-presidencial/[/URL]
Preferably with three chicas.[/QUOTE]There is always something above.
This is my ultimate: [URL]http://motelibiza.com/suites/mansion[/URL].
I love the hydro and sauna for 8 persons.
Colombians really know how to enjoy and spoil themselves.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2196619]That's the one, the small town next to the airport. I cruised if on Google Street View last year and found a whole block with obvious street girls standing in front of bars but forgot to write down what block that was.[/QUOTE][URL]https://goo.gl/maps/J4ivf1DUqVs[/URL]

Click on the photo and go to street view, as soon as your in street view, turn around and look.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2197500]There is always something above.
This is my ultimate: [URL]http://motelibiza.com/suites/mansion[/URL].
I love the hydro and sauna for 8 persons.
Colombians really know how to enjoy and spoil themselves.[/QUOTE]That's got to be among top 3 rooms I've ever seen.

It looks a hell of a lot better than Veracruz that's for sure.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2197725][URL]https://goo.gl/maps/J4ivf1DUqVs[/URL]

Click on the photo and go to street view, as soon as your in street view, turn around and look.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SonicBoom1;2197765]That's got to be among top 3 rooms I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]And if we look at prices of those rooms it really looks stellar! So cheap.

2 or 3 years ago I posted about my "pole dancer" girl. If you search you also find photos.

I remember that a while after I left Medellin she sent me, just to make me feel jealous, a photo of her and THREE girls in a jacuzzi of Ibiza. A lady ("veterana" 40 yo) had hired them for 200 k each for a night of fun. All together all ladies. Imagine.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2197857]It looks a hell of a lot better than Veracruz that's for sure.[/QUOTE]ROFL Since when Veracruz has become the top destination and benchmark reference in Colombia??

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2190665]I love to quote myself. IN CENTRO, I mean really in centro, 1 block from Prado Metro Station, I recommend without hesitation the Motel Lafayette (pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there). Una chimba de hotel, as I heard my girl exlamating once we got in front of the big jacuzzi.

All details here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1953559&viewfull=1#post1953559[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow a nice short term motel right there in centro! Much much much better than the 10 mil 30 minute shit hole dive I was at last night in centro on cundinamarca right across the street from the Hotel Channel. For some reason the Hotel Channel was pad locked closed during the day yesterday. Spent 10 mil on the room and 40 for my girl who sucked me dry.

TTM.

Somebody out there doing some good video work, thought you guys would enjoy, I did!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhdidx1ipIk[/URL]

Fair point, I did set the bar way low with that comment. LOL!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2197990]ROFL Since when Veracruz has become the top destination and benchmark reference in Colombia??[/QUOTE]

I guess it all depends on what you want. This was one of my best trips and one of my worst trips, but overall I managed to come out of this event on top. Well first off, I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband. I guess they thought I couldn't speak Spanish and 3 immigration officers went in on me like Pitbull on the back of a meat truck who hasn't eaten in 6 weeks. I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.

I had sat up some big plans with about 10 girls and everything went as planned. If you're wondering, I still have the girlfriend, and many of the 10 girls were her cousins. I had a plan to watch what I spent this trip just to do a test run. I was already $500 US down and glad to be free. I arrived at Centro with 2 large suitcases & I set up my room, which had a queen size bed and a full size bed. I brought over nearly every American.

Commodity you needed to make a Centro Room feel like a Hollywood suite. My first night I had Daniella, Liora, & Michelle. Tired as a prize Bull who had banged 8 heffers, somehow after I sat up my room, lit a few candles and sipped a little vodka, I was ready to bang some Medellin poonanny! Michelle was the ring leader, first cousin to my girl and knows a gang of university girls who need plata. Fellows ummma have to post a few pics to give you a glimpse as some of the honeys this PolloNegro was dipping in. Caramel skin, fat asses, white pearly skin, good Lord they came in all shapes & sizes. Michelle is my personal favorite, 4'7" with a 40 inch ass. Please bear with me, another one's just walked in, and I'll finish this post a little later, Vive Colombia, Pollo Negro is out!

$500 at customs, LOL!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2198564]I guess it all depends on what you want. This was one of my best trips and one of my worst trips, but overall I managed to come out of this event on top. Well first off, I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband. I guess they thought I couldn't speak Spanish and 3 immigration officers went in on me like Pitbull on the back of a meat truck who hasn't eaten in 6 weeks. I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.[/QUOTE]

But as I was typing, a girl came to my door looking to Phillip, good lord on the heaven tops. I be uncle Phil, Phil the Pill, Phil the Deal. I've seen some beautiful women, and I've been around the world, never in my life have I seen a woman so well put together with such a perfect tan. She entered my room, stripped down, dropped to her knees started blowing me, gagging, spitting, asking mi did I want [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]. Fellows, I have tons of cash to blow, this chic right here, can damn sure get as many pesos as she wants and can set as many citas as she want. Crazy, dimensions, this girl is 5'0" 117 lbs and good lord work with a weak man. I didn't have a lot of time, but I banged her ass and twat for no less than an hour. Oral, vaginal, anal, CIM. Her only downside was that it took her about a hour & 15 minutes to find my hotel in centro. I got a lot of stories to tell you about this trip, but this girl & every girl I bang, does pics, vídeo, and CIM, no need in bumping my gums, her name is Selena, inbox me for number. Won't have vídeo available for at least 3 days, got allot work once I return to the states. Her name is Selena, she's 18 with a cédula! Pollonegro is out.

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Friends,

My account had a problem and I could not share my stories before.

I am from Colombia and my hobby have always been women, I dedicated myself to taste different women from those who work in the street, in bars, in striptease sites, escorts. I started in Bogota and other cities in Colombia, now in Medellin. . I have many stories and recommendations that I will be writing to you.

My first experience was in "casas" I always used to travel and I selected the woman to taste, Alejandra was the first selected in New Life (for me it is the best casa in the center Medellin and the one with the most women), the prices in women in Medellin are low compared to other parts of the country. I decided to enter, good legs, tall, brunette. She had a short skirt, when we entered she danced and got naked. Full kisses, GFE, BBBJ included, different poses and negotiation ass.

After the first round, many kisses, so much that we get warm and start the second round, she is no problem with the ass, is very relaxed and likes 69. Recommended.

$ 80 COP time (1 hour) + $ 50 COP ass + $ 8 COP drinks.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2198564]

I arrived Sunday and was busted at the immigration & customs unit, with some legal contraband.

I explained that all of the gifts were for my girlfriend & her family, but they weren't buying it. So when all else fails, I toughened up and said, stop! Put my items back in my suitcase, how much money to get you to let me out of the F*ing room and allow me to be on my way. The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US.

[/QUOTE]What did you have in your suit case that was worth more than $500?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2198564]The ugly chic didn't hesitate to scream five hundred US. I was tired, I was sweaty, I hadn't had any sleep in 3 days & I had a gang of Centro Cinnamon Bunns waiting on me, I whipped out 5 crispy Ben Franks, Those officers packed my suitcase like my mother would, made me sign a release and told me I was free to go. The pretty officer looked at me and asked, what do you do for a living, I responded, soy jugador? Ves que me gusta correr riesgos! LOL, I'm a gambler can't you I like taking chances. My heart was beating church kids who was caught stealing from the offering cup. I then showed them my real work badge & credentials, they were in shock, and allowed me to leave the airport.
[/QUOTE]You must know that you made everyone damn curious with your story. First, about your real work badge. Let me guess: are you FBI Director? Second, WHAT THE HELL did you try to import in your suitcase??

I remember years ago I brought from Europe to Colombia in my suitcase, as gift for a girl and two friends, 3 kg of precious cheese and a traditional farm 1 kg salami (overall maybe 100 EUR value). I was happy to be not stopped.

Also, everytime I leave Colombia, I pack in my suitcases 10 kg of tropical fruits and 5-6 kg of Juan Valdez cafe de origen. Last time also 5 kg of panela. Never had a single problem with that.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2198720]You must know that you made everyone damn curious with your story. First, about your real work badge. Let me guess: are you FBI Director? Second, WHAT THE HELL did you try to import in your suitcase??

I remember years ago I brought from Europe to Colombia in my suitcase, as gift for a girl and two friends, 3 kg of precious cheese and a traditional farm 1 kg salami (overall maybe 100 EUR value). I was happy to be not stopped.

Also, everytime I leave Colombia, I pack in my suitcases 10 kg of tropical fruits and 5-6 kg of Juan Valdez cafe de origen. Last time also 5 kg of panela. Never had a single problem with that.[/QUOTE]What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2198725]What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.[/QUOTE]You were lucky because the fine in the USA for trying to bring in fruit is $500 for each piece.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2198725]What fruit did they allow you? Once I was bringing in some bananas and apples. US customs took the bananas and allowed the apples.[/QUOTE]The Donald did not sign a [I]banana ban[/I] yet, maybe.

When I fly back to my country in Europe from Batam Indonesia (via Singapore), Malaysia, Colombia, I am used to go to the market on my last day to buy what I cannot find at home. Some weeks ago, from Medellin to Europe I brought back 2 papayas, mangos, pitahaya, tomates de arbol. Depending on seasonal availability, I am used to bring from Batam mangoes, manggis (a.k.a. mangosteen), rambutan. Some years ago even a durian in a backpack from Batam to Europe via Singapore, Changi, and CDG (if you don't know what a durian is, you will not undersand why I specify I did that).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2198756]You were lucky because the fine in the USA for trying to bring in fruit is $500 for each piece.[/QUOTE]I thought Singapore was even stricter, but I never had problems there.
I leave Batam from Harbour Bay, I cross Indonesia emigration with X-ray luggage check, then 45 minutes ferry, then immigration at Singapore Harbour Front, again X-rays, then 1 hour MRT train to Changi, check-in of all luggage to my final destination.
At Indonesia and Singapore borders they check luggage with X-rays because they search for alcohol and tobacco. They ignore the rest.
By the way, the time I carried a durian I risked. The fine to bring a durian in the MRT is about 1000 SGD.

There has been an exception, several years ago, on my return to my town from Accra (via CDG). The customs officers stopped me and requested to check my luggage. Imagine the curiosity when they found the fruits. They started to examine all them, but looking for possible drugs concealed. The highest-grade officer ordered others to cut one of my mangoes and also screened my papaya with X-rays. I remember the papaya slowly moving on the belt towards its destiny...
No problems. I am not a drug smuggler. Finally the told me bye and good appetite.

(Why some JPG files are rendered with preview thumbnails, but others like mine below NOT??)

Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?

Of course I did RTFF the thread about casas, fb girls, mansion and know a lot already thanks to you guys. I did prepare some short phrases in Spanish but obviously not enough to have a conversation. I have experience from the other side of the world (Europe, Dubai, Morocco etc). Similarly most Moroccan girls speak no English but good thing was I felt pretty safe to use my "flashy"smart phone there as translator without worrying it may get snatched and getting around alone evening time or night was safe.

So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo.

You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2198978]Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?

Of course I did RTFF the thread about casas, fb girls, mansion and know a lot already thanks to you guys. I did prepare some short phrases in Spanish but obviously not enough to have a conversation. I have experience from the other side of the world (Europe, Dubai, Morocco etc). Similarly most Moroccan girls speak no English but good thing was I felt pretty safe to use my "flashy"smart phone there as translator without worrying it may get snatched and getting around alone evening time or night was safe.

So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2198978]Is Medellin recommended for non-Spanish speaking guy travelling solo? I expect everyone will try to rip you off if you don't speak native language from cab driver to girls but I know how to say no. Would I have problem getting around town with English / google translator and connecting with girls outside the casas? What about prepagos / incall girls from internet, only text in Spanish?
So I wonder if I could do same thing in Medellin solo.[/QUOTE]Went there for three nights and didn't encounter any of the problems you mentioned. The general population are actually pretty nice people in regards to tourists. This is not a Mexican border town, you know. I knew very little Spanish, but got around well enough and got laid with little hassle. Never even thought of using Google translator, (though I did benefit from hooking up with a Canadian backpacker chick who spoke Spanish the first day). If anything, its too easy though I didn't deal with any women outside the casas which are abundant and cheap. I guess you would have more problems with the language barrier trying to hook up with a prepago who didn't speak English. Its one reason I am learning to speak Spanish now, before I head onto Bogota, which is a huge city with more challenges. But, if you are a "good traveler", it would be the same as if you were in a part of Thailand or the Dominican Republic where few people spoke English. Some of us are good at traveling to offbeat destinations. Are you?

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2199091]You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices.[/QUOTE]I don't have any issues in Medellin. My Spanish is awful. I use google translate without issue. Yes, I may pay a little more, but no other issues. I typically set girls up prior to my trip. Usually Colombian cupid, but this trip facebook as well. I will be back in Medellin next week.

Go and have fun.

I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.

The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site.

I moved to Hotel Inntu in Laureles. It is what I consider a 4 star hotel and I got a junior suite for a little more than I was paying at Soul. It's a wonderful place in the heart of Laureles. The only drawback is that there's a hefty fee for bring in guests.

Back to Poblado. If I never set foot in that part of town, it will be too soon, haha. When I travel, I don't want to see hordes of Americans and fast food restaurants and, in general, American culture. Parque Lleras was a disaster. It was teeming with drunken Americans, restaurants that served hamburgers and pizza and blasted ear-deafening reggaton music. I lasted 10 minutes and practically ran away. Laurales is a nice change of pace so far.

Women are always on my mind like everyone here. I have never come across such gorgeous young women that are readily available. I found more than what I was looking for on Seeking Arrangements. While the site is available anywhere in the world, motivations in Colombia seem different than in America for the women. There's only a minority of what I would term strictly prostitutes. Most are college students, 18-26, looking for tuition money, or so they say. I think many try to rationalize not being a prostitute by wanting an emotional connection. And I guess there is a difference. I found 3 regulars all of whom are incredible. I have a good time with them as well as great sex. In my opinion, the prices are extremely reasonable. Dinner and up to 400.000 COP for multiple hours or the night.

There are also women on there that treat the site like [URL]match.com[/URL] and are looking for a serious relationship. I fell for one of those, stupid me. She came from Cali at her own expense to meet me. Never asked for a dime, though I insisted on giving her money for the trip. A 20 something year old law student.

And that's where I'm at. I'm still getting to know the city, but I love it so far and may retire here. The people are incredibly friendly and prices are reasonable. And you can't beat the weather.

If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]

Back to Poblado. If I never set foot in that part of town, it will be too soon, haha. When I travel, I don't want to see hordes of Americans and fast food restaurants and, in general, American culture. Parque Lleras was a disaster. It was teeming with drunken Americans, restaurants that served hamburgers and pizza and blasted ear-deafening reggaton music. I lasted 10 minutes and practically ran away. Laurales is a nice change of pace so far.

And that's where I'm at. I'm still getting to know the city, but I love it so far and may retire here. The people are incredibly friendly and prices are reasonable. And you can't beat the weather.

If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.[/QUOTE]Cool and honest report!

Thanks!

Not a big fan of el Poblado or Parque Lleras myself.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]I have a good time with them as well as great sex. In my opinion, the prices are extremely reasonable. Dinner and up to 400.000 COP for multiple hours or the night.[/QUOTE]400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner. If you can imagine the amount being reasonable to an average local then it is reasonable. But trust, unless it is some big time drug dealers ain't no Colombians considering 400K as being reasonable for some pussy. In 100 countries I have never needed pussy so bad as to pay 400K for it. I do not consider that remotely reasonable, especially for Colombia. And feeding a bih in addition to that? Or are you saying that she made dinner for you included in the 400K?

To put things into perspective, my girlfriend works a normal job at an energy company in Bogota and makes 800K/MONTH. So imagine being back home and giving someone 1 month's salary for 2 nights of being with you. Would you consider that reasonable?

Great report! I would advise you to lower your gift amount though to not encourage these chicas. I am very selective myself. Out of 100 chicas I wrote, I only met up with 15 and slept with 3. I usually offer 150-200 k if we end up in intimacy and 300 k if it's all day and night.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.

The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site..[/QUOTE]Nice report. A lot of people in California where I live talk about how annoying Cabo San Lucas is in Mexico because it's so "Americanized". Too many places set up just like the resorts & restaurants in the US, and too many Americans there speaking English.

Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199113]400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner. If you can imagine the amount being reasonable to an average local then it is reasonable. But trust, unless it is some big time drug dealers ain't no Colombians considering 400K as being reasonable for some pussy. In 100 countries I have never needed pussy so bad as to pay 400K for it. I do not consider that remotely reasonable, especially for Colombia. And feeding a bih in addition to that? Or are you saying that she made dinner for you included in the 400K?

To put things into perspective, my girlfriend works a normal job at an energy company in Bogota and makes 800K/MONTH. So imagine being back home and giving someone 1 month's salary for 2 nights of being with you. Would you consider that reasonable?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199138]Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.[/QUOTE]Go on ignoring the reality around you, and you will have a long way of fun ahead.

400 k in Medellin is out of the market. In short, not only you overpaid (you may not care of wasting money, as you have plenty), but also most likely your experience was below the standard, as girls who overcharge a foreigner do not feel [I]sympathy[/I] but [I]greediness[/I].

I've been a long time member. I don't contribute much because I don't agree with the mainstream philosophy and self-rigtheousness often found. Many members are intolerant that other members think differently. I am not a professional monger nor do I want to be. There is no judgment intended in that remark. To each his own. I started my post with stating that I was posting hesitatingly. I knew there would be criticism. In the future, I'll just lurk. This is my last negative remark, it's not worth it. I am enjoying myself and spending my kajillions of dollars (I wish!) and the rest of the world be damned, haha.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2199139]Go on ignoring the reality around you, and you will have a long way of fun ahead.

400 k in Medellin is out of the market. In short, not only you overpaid (you may not care of wasting money, as you have plenty), but also most likely your experience was below the standard, as girls who overcharge a foreigner do not feel [I]sympathy[/I] but [I]greediness[/I].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

If there's any interest, I'll do a part 2 when the trip ends.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks man! Part 2 please.

A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that!

On some occasion my whatsapp came a picture of a very beautiful woman, when I arrived in Medellin look for scorts in "mileroticos" and surprise. It was her, the beautiful woman. All the services included. But there was something that generated distrust, price $ 80 COP x 30 min (a scort of that level and economic).

She has an apartment to receive the clients, she is located in the Poblado, we agreed and when she opened she noticed that many girls work there.

The face was not the same, if it was her but the face was ugly and fat. We entered the room and I felt ripped off: No BBBJ, no 69, no different positions, no kisses and dead cow. Bad sex. Regular vaginal for 30 min and I decided to leave.

Experience: not all beautiful girls are good sex or GFE, this time I lost.

Attached video. I hope you like it.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2199160]A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that![/QUOTE]Yes if you want to be a buddy fucker and have these chicas turn into self entitled lazy bitches that we have in North America. And no if you don't want the price for pussy to be comparable to North American in 5/10/ or 20 years.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199113]400K only seems reasonable because you are a rich foreigner.[/QUOTE]400 k for all night isn't so bad. Assuming the hourly rate is 150 k to 200 k (outside of Centro) then it seems fine to me.

That being said, you are right that it's quite a lot for Colombians. The ones who are over paying are paying 200 USD for short time. That's insane. Like paying 50 bucks for a one way subway ride.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199138]Honestly, I couldn't care less what you think.[/QUOTE]I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate..[/QUOTE]Hey,

I feel the same way pretty much, I hate Poblado with a passion and do not like the impersonal Casa line up choosing, even less so at Energy where you pick them out by the number they wear.

I did SeekingArrangements also my 1st trip but those girls are mostly dealing with foreigners so they have a inflated price.

I find the strip clubs fun, you can sit and talk or drink with a bunch of girls to pick one who seems both cool and sexy. And then try them on site 1st to see how you click, $28 to $65 ish from the Centro clubs to Fase II. Then if you like her get her number and WhatsApp a date for the next day / night.

I even like the Centro redlight blocks more then the Casa's, I can chat with the girl a bit and do a attitude check, they will be $10 to $20 for a test ride and much cheaper then SA girls to come see you at your hotel.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199197]I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.[/QUOTE]You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?

I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.

Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour. And I got a lot more time than that. It was all GFE, something hard to come by in the US. I also said 400 k was the most I paid. We all have a lot more money compared to the local population and we are all rich in their eyes. I don't believe bragging about how little one is able to pay is particularly compassionate.

I could go on. It's my money. One or a dozen people are not going to change the economics by paying more than what others pay. And if it does, maybe the economics should be changed. It's like giving the waiter more than the standard tip is not going to change things, but if it does, maybe Adam Smith meant that to be. To get angry at someone because you (and I don't mean you personally Mr. E) think he's paying too much and ruining things is silly.

That's an opinion and I know many, if not most of you disagree with it, But I am entitled to my opinion.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199197]I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199232]I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.

Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour. And I got a lot more time than that. It was all GFE, something hard to come by in the US. I also said 400 k was the most I paid. We all have a lot more money compared to the local population and we are all rich in their eyes. I don't believe bragging about how little one is able to pay is particularly compassionate.

I could go on. It's my money. One or a dozen people are not going to change the economics by paying more than what others pay. And if it does, maybe the economics should be changed. It's like giving the waiter more than the standard tip is not going to change things, but if it does, maybe Adam Smith meant that to be. To get angry at someone because you (and I don't mean you personally Mr. E) think he's paying too much and ruining things is silly.

That's an opinion and I know many, if not most of you disagree with it, But I am entitled to my opinion.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. You make it you spend it.

I think most of your disgruntled price and tip control people have always been the back at the end of the line people. Afraid they might miss out and blame it on others. The only one making them miss out out is the man in the mirror.

Take care and happy pooning your way sir!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2199091]You will be fine. Just be prepared to pay gorngo prices.[/QUOTE]I did not have that problem. Then again, I went into places where the prices are set based on time, and in the case of Energy, are actually posted online. I never made it to El Poblado, either. What freelancers charge the tourist is a different story, and I'm sure there are those who will spend like a gringo, and be taken advantage of.

The only time I had anyone try to take advantage of me (that I know of) was at the cafe opposite my hotel on "La Setenta". On the second morning I was there, I had to remind the waiter that the same breakfast he just served me, cost me 3000 k less the day before. He adjusted the tab accordingly. The previous morning, in the same cafe, I handed some cash to the waitress and walked out. She ran outside after me to give me back my change, unaware that it was meant as a propina. Don't expect that to happen in the DR!

I am confused why you thought you would be opening yourself for criticism. I don't think you paid an above average amount for seeking arrangement dates. Lots of guys avoid the casas and the gringo inn. You are enjoying yourself enough to extend your stay so I grade what you are doing as A+.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199107]I'm half way through my trip and I am hesitatingly writing a bit of a report. I hesitate because I doubt most of the membership here will relate and I'm probably leaving myself open to unwanted criticism. My motivations and goals in visiting Medellin are seemingly different. But not entirely. Different, not better or worse.

Let me briefly explain. My priority when I vacation is to sightsee, have adventure and get to know the culture. Women are not the priority, but I like to indulge. I also like an emotional connection, not just a wam bang thank you ma'am. I would never go to a house or the Mansion or anything like that. To each his own, and that's just not me. I think these things set me apart from most others here, though perhaps some of you can relate.

The original plan was to stay a week. I extended that to 2 more weeks. I'm here 8 days now. The first 5 days were spent at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul Lifestyle Apartments. I don't recommend it. The apartment wasn't totally up to snuff and the host, or should I say super host, was less than accommodating. The building itself is nice and management there is very helpful. It's basically an 80 apartment building geared to being a hotel with a few independent owners, like the one I had. I'm not here to write an apartment review but I'll be happy to answer any questions. I also wrote a review on the Airbnb site..[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% with everything you said. It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country. In all honesty I don't think what 1 or 100 guys pay will move the market in a way cheapskates like me would notice. Does anybody here really believe no one else has ever paid 400 k or much more? Of course not, and the going rate has not moved very much in recent years.

I guess I'm a weirdo. It doesn't make any difference to me what anyone else pays as long as the brother is paying with full knowledge of market rates. As I mentioned, I'm a cheapskate so if I really believed girls collecting half a million pesos via seeking arrangement would increase my costs I'm pretty sure I would try to prevent it. I just don't understand the mentality of going in on a guy because I don't want to pay as much as he does. Looking at it another way, I can afford a brand new car just like I can afford to pay European or US rates for girls anywhere in the world. I don't do either. Using the car example, I go for off lease vehicles with low mileage and a year or more of warranty left so I don't pay the 30% depreciation. But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199232]I know I said I was going to shut up after my last post, but I feel I need to say this. I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney. That's like saying that people that tip 25% or more in US restaurants ruin it for everyone. Plus a kajillion similar examples.

Frankly, I don't follow the going rates like I do my 401 k. I paid what I think is reasonable and fair, but I digress. I don't read ISG often and why should I have to? Disagree or no, I pay what I believe is fair. I still paid a fraction of what I would have paid in the US. One hour with any of the women I went out with would cost over $300 for one hour..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2199208]You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?[/QUOTE]I think people have to know most of us are on vacation in a foreign country. Even if we pay 200 $ for an all nighter that's insanely cheaper than the US and we get to do this with a really hot Latina. And even if the girls get spoiled for that one or 2 clients it's not like we live there to really change anything.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2199208]You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?[/QUOTE]Completely agree, mate! My best experiences always come from ladies who charge sliiiiiightly more than the cheapest of the bunch, but spend all night getting it on in as many ways as possible. Party, play, etc. For that, you need to do more than drop 20 USD for a 20 minute session.

To each their own, but I just wanted to back you up and say that the person who said you are ruining anything is nothing but a jacka $$.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2199190]400 k for all night isn't so bad. Assuming the hourly rate is 150 k to 200 k (outside of Centro) then it seems fine to me.

That being said, you are right that it's quite a lot for Colombians. The ones who are over paying are paying 200 USD for short time. That's insane. Like paying 50 bucks for a one way subway ride.[/QUOTE]Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199148]I've been a long time member. I don't contribute much because I don't agree with the mainstream philosophy and self-rigtheousness often found. Many members are intolerant that other members think differently. I am not a professional monger nor do I want to be. There is no judgment intended in that remark. To each his own. I started my post with stating that I was posting hesitatingly. I knew there would be criticism. In the future, I'll just lurk. This is my last negative remark, it's not worth it. I am enjoying myself and spending my kajillions of dollars (I wish!) and the rest of the world be damned, haha.[/QUOTE]Don't lurk, just ignore the criticism from the know-it-all's and the bottom feeders. 400 K is reasonable for multi hours or overnight with a low mileage semi-girlfriend hottie, like you might find on SA.

P.S. Nothing against bottom feeders, I used to be one myself. Anyone regardless of spending habits should feel comfortable posting here. Except for trannie lovers.

It happens.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2199288]Who is paying 200 USD for a short time?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2199264] But I'm never going to criticize people who buy brand new cars and try to make them feel bad because they drop thousands of dollars in value the moment they pull off the lot. It's none of my business.[/QUOTE]A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.

That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.

Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.

There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2199160]A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that![/QUOTE]Absolutely. And members here have a right to offer their thoughts. No one can force you to spend or not spend a certain amount. But they can offer their opinion on what is smart and what is not.

My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2199160]A man has a right to spend his $$ the way he wants to. Simple as that![/QUOTE]You're right, but.

If a guy is spending his money in a way that's likely to get him in bad situations, I'll suggest he change his methods. If a guy wants to go into Conejitas and start tossing $20 bills around, I'm either going to try and stop him or get the hell away from him.

I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.

[QUOTE=Combo;2199315]My experience in this hobby has taught me that you don't get a better experience by overpaying. You do, however, open yourself up to risks when you throw around as much money as many locals make in a month.[/QUOTE]Not to mention, what you get in return for overpaying is more likely to be contempt than respect or appreciation.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2199264]It's true that you would have paid much more than you did in the US, but I don't think that is justification for what anyone pays in Colombia or any other country.[/QUOTE]That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK, the same as they have shit to do with the prices in Colombia.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.

A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.

Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it. I wasn't born with the information that I try to share. I learned it from other people and through experience the same as everyone else.

Just like a few months ago when me and my girlfriend arrived at the airport in Bogota from our trip to Armenia. I tried to get a taxi in front of the building. She said if you walk across over there the taxi will be way cheaper. I didn't cuss her out and tell her not to tell me how to spend my money. I took heed and tried to learn something that I could pass on to the next person. The taxi was like 30% cheaper than it would have been in front of the building!

Mr E is the man! Always dropping knowledge! The Bangkok. Pattaya taxi wa a big help. Listen to the man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199332]That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199332]That is the mistake that people always make, comparing one market to another. They only do it when the visiting market is cheaper than the home market though. You don't see anyone from the US going to London and saying $500? But in the US it would be $300. Because prices in the US have shit to do with the prices in the UK.

It has never bothered me that someone pays above whatever because it does not affect what I pay. I know how to talk and bargain. I only want to inform a person that the rate is above what they could be paying. I have been saying for years that when arriving in Thailand you can go upstairs and get a taxi to Pattaya for $30. But hey, many guys still insist on booking a ride or going downstairs to get a taxi for $50. Ain't changed the $30 I pay in all these years. Had a guy come to Thailand a couple of months ago. He thanked me because his previous visit he had been paying chicks way more than what he was getting them for this time.

A few months ago I went to Cambodia with some buddies. One friend fucked a chick for $40. The next day I decided to fuck the same chick but only gave her $20. 2 days after that my buddy got the chick again, but this time told her he would only give her the same $20 that I gave her.

Frankly, I don't care at all what anyone pays; just trying to save the people that are not aware a few dollars, pounds, pesos, or what have you. Like I said before, this board is about sharing information. If someone can give me better information about anything than I already have, then I am open to accept it.[/QUOTE]I do appreciate the info and contributions you have made. Here is my issue when I go to Colombia.

#1. My Spanish is limited.

#2. I'm asian so when I walk into any establishment I'm always going to get the worst price. I always counter but even then I'm pretty sure I am over paying for local standards.

#3. I'm only there for a limited time so if I see a girl I want I don't have the time to play the waiting game taking #s meet you when you're not working type of game.

My first trip to MDE I went to gustos. Girl asked for 300 usd for tln. I countered with 200 and we settled on 220 usd.

2nd day went to La Isla girl wanted 250 usd countered with 200 usd for tln.

3rd day went to Fase Dos girl asked for 250 and once again settled for 200 usd for 5 hours.

At this point of the trip I was not happy with any of the sessions. All were CBJ non GFE. Never really discussed service which was my mistake.

4th day went to Energy MP. 150 k COP for the session and it was fun.

Also got an escort from photoprepagos 200 k for an hour discussed services such as BBBJ and anal so thought I got a good deal.

5th day went back to energy. Once again 150 k cop for the session. Nothing great.

I do realize certain services must be negotiated (BBBJ anal etc) if not you will always get CBJ at least from my experiences.

I'm hoping my 2nd trip to MDE will be much better. My last 2 trips to Colombia I went to Bogota and I was very specific with each girl about things I wanted and realized it made all the difference.

I do appreciate all the contributions from the mde veterans here but you must remember we are only visiting for a limited time and in my case being limited in espanol and no possible way of being able to pass for a local does have its disadvantages LOL.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2199208]You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?[/QUOTE]LOL. I don't think you get it. You don't know where a chick came from before she got to you or where she goes after she leaves you. Case in point, there is a rather nice gentlemen's club in Thailand where you fuck chicks for $40 for 1 hour. I was there a couple of months ago and met a chick that said she had to go to her second job at the gogo bar at 9 pm. The price at that gogo bar is over 3 times of what it is at her day job. I reported this when it happened and a couple weeks later another monger comes along and writes a report that he met the same chick. So some guys are going to the gogo and paying the same fucking chick $130 when they could be fucking her at her day job for $40. I guess some people would rather buy into the illusion that the $130 fuck is better and has less mileage than the $40 fuck though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2185412]Just a short report to say I told you so. I am over at Kinnaree now and my brother is sitting with a chick that also works at What's Up? She said that she has to be there at 9 to get her hair and makeup done. Haven't I always told you guys that there are chicks that work multiple venues and you are getting nothing special if you go to the most expensive? Short time here at Kinnaree is 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. She said at her other job barfine is 1300 plus 3000 for short time or 5000 for long time. Pick your poison. Same poison, so you are not really picking it, but because it is in a different bottle it will cost you much more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GogoGuyz;2193696]So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted... We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree.[/QUOTE]

Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.

A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip.

Day 1 - Get into Cartagena mid-afternoon, change a $100 at the currency exchange just to have a few pesos ($2,600 exchange) and hop a taxi to our hotel, Torre de Reloj. We love to be as close to the action as possible, and the clock tower is ground zero for chicas, so with balconies looking out onto the square, it doesn't get any better. Rates were high at around US $90 a night, but it was only for 2-nights so we didn't mind. Third floor rooms with no elevator kind of sucked, but the rooms were decent. We took chicas in and out of the hotel no problem, they kept their ID's until they left, but at checkout they tried to charge us a whopping $90,000 COP per chica fee, which we argued like crazy. The guy at checkout we had not seen the whole trip, and he insisted we were told this from the beginning. We refused to pay it but are watching the credit card to see if they bill it through there. If they do, we will dispute the charges. Fuckers!

Anyhow. We change more money at the exchange next to the hotel where we get $2,700 rate. Have dinner at a nice restaurant in Boca Grande and back to the hotel where we walk the town and check the scene. It was still a bit early for the chicas so we explore and eventually hang at the bar area in front of the Hard Rock until the girls start to roll in around 11 ish. We walk the area some more and eventually I grab a tall spinner from Cali. Asks for $250 k but we agree to 2-hours for $200 k. My buddy grabs a chica also and we all head up to the rooftop bar of the hotel for some drinks. My friends chica is much more fun and personable than my girl, who was all business. I finally take her to the room and after a shower we look to start the action, and she tells me she doesn't have any condoms. I almost threw her out of the room but as a last ditch effort, I go to my buddy's room next door where his chica has condoms so I bum one. I almost started a double team with his girl but I go back and get my first nut out with my chica and send her packing. What a dud! We have to be up early the next day so I call it a night and don't bother going back down again, first night was a bit disappointing.

Day 2- We have a commitment that takes up our whole day, but by 8 pm we are back at the hotel. Get showered and grab dinner, and somehow my buddy runs into his girl from the night before. He likes her so agrees to go for another round, she knows I had a crap time the night before so she texts one of her friends to come to the hotel. About 15-minutes later her friend shows up, she is 20 and a cute "girl next door" type looks but a tiger in bed. Great DFK, BBBJ, passionate chick. Finally Colombia is on the rebound. Later I find out my buddy had a threesome with his girlfriend and another of her friends, full GFE, PSE, girls snorting lines off his dick, fucked both in the ass, the works! He said it was one of the best threesomes of his life, and he has had plenty over the years, believe me. After we chill for a bit and recover, we head down to Isis strip club to check the scene, we had a beer or two but it's the typical clip joint for American tourists, I don't remember the prices but I think beers were around $20 k and girls were $300-400 k COP I think. We leave and head to Dolce Vita. I liked this place a lot, probably because it had A/C! Cartagena is hot as fuck, and I felt like I was sweating my ass off everywhere I went. We hang for a good hour and have several rounds of drinks, I grab a gorgeous blonde in a sexy white outfit and get her a few drinks. My initial impression was this was a freelance bar, where girls would go back and forth between here and the clock tower. Apparently I was wrong, and the girls at Dolce Vita work for the club only. I agree to $200 k for my girl and upon leaving, they try to get me to pay a $100 k exit fee. I refuse to pay and tell her forget it, I will find someone else outside the club and basically walk out. She talks to the bartender briefly and runs after me, basically saying we consumed enough alcohol while we were there that the club will let her leave without an exit fee. Whatever. Anyhow, we go back to the hotel and she was awesome, even better than the previous girl. Great DFK & BBBJ, only disappointment is no anal.

Later we head back down again and walk around a bit to check the scene. We stray away from the clock tower and end up down the block somewhere, eventually smoking some weed with some skanky chicas on the corner. One of them convinces my friend he can fuck her up the ass for $100 k so he agrees to take her back, so I reluctantly end up with her friend. She was actually cuter than my buddy's girl but said "no cula" for her but BBBJ no problem. My girl was pretty good actually but my friends girl sucked, no BBBJ, no anal, and my friend threw her out without even fucking her. Hey, it's cool if you don't do BBBJ or anal, but don't promise it on the street and then get to the room and refuse. WTF?! We call it a night as its already around 4 am and we have to be at the airport to catch our flight to Medellin by 7 am so we only get about 2-hours sleep.

Overall Cartagena is beautiful but hot as fuck! It's so hot and humid I was generally uncomfortable the entire time outdoors, even at night. There is a wealth of talent at the clock tower but it's hard to determine chemistry with the chica in this setting, kind of like a Casa it's a "grab and go" type environment. If you approach one girl in a group of 3 or 4 the others will scatter like cockroaches, it's kind of funny actually. Thursday night around 1 am I counted around 70 girls in the square and even at 4 am there were still 30-40 around, I can only imagine what the place is like on the weekends. Dolce Vita I liked better because you can have a drink and socialize to get a better connection with the chica before committing to her, but to each his own. Overall I would not go back to Cartagena as a mongering destination, too touristy, inflated prices and too fucking HOT!

Day 3 - Medellin at last! Been dying to go here for years, and finally here after a short 1-hour flight from Cartagena. Staying at the Mansion 2 and they arrange a driver to pick us up for $75 k. Fernando was waiting when we arrived. I walked out of the airport and the weather was perfect, low 70's, no humidity and a slight chill in the air. I was in heaven. Shortly afterwards I discover the airport is a good 2,000 ft higher than the city, it's at 7,000 ft and the city is 4,900 ft, so it's much cooler here, damn it. Anyhow, Medellin is warmer but overall comfortable, nothing like Cartagena. We get to the hotel around noon but our rooms won't be ready till 4 pm. We grabbed our cash and passports, left our bags with the office, and walked down Poblado avenue to the outdoor complex to the currency exchange (2,750 was the best exchange rate we got) and pretty decent since the current rate was 2,900. We changed some cash and walked to Santa Fe mall across the street, awesome 5-story shopping mall. I felt like I was back in the states. Walked to Hard Rock and had lunch and watched a World Cup game, then back to the hotel and got settled. Freshened up and grabbed a cab down to Centro as I was dying to hit some Casas. I did my homework before the trip and knew there were 5 Casas within walking distance of each other, and located them on Google Earth "street view" so I knew exactly what they looked like and could navigate the area comfortably.

First up was New Life. Decent lineup with around 15 girls, my scale was 5 to maybe 7. 5. It's hard to remember all the girls names so after they introduce themselves one at a time we ask for a full lineup. I grab a dirty blonde Paisa looking chic who seemed like a nice personality and off we go. Decent enough room, a bit warm with a wall fan but clean and has its own bathroom and shower. Now this being my first time in a Casa, once we get in the room I tell her (in Spanish) I want a full hour, do I have to pay now or later? "Quiero un hora, tengo que pagar ahora or despues? She basically tells me $100 k which I replied its only $80 k for the hour, the rest was propina. OK fine, I give her $100 k and we have a good session, a crappy 10-second BBBJ but aside from that she was good. After the session and a shower we leave the room and I go to the window to pay for the drinks I ordered earlier. The bill is like $120 k and I tell them I gave the girl $100 k already. Now she is telling the manager the $100 k was propina for her and I have to pay the regular tab. I get fucking pissed! One of the working girls comes over and translates, her English was really good actually, and I explained what happened. She said the girl is telling her I agreed to pay her $100 k for BBBJ, which I said was ridiculous, why would I pay $80 k for an hour fuck and $100 k for a BBBJ, that is outrageous, "Not really, I charge $50 k" she says. Anyhow, after a 5-10 minute heated exchange, we agree the girl will pay the $80 k from the $100 k I gave her, I paid the balance of the tab for the drinks, and gave the girl an additional $30 k, so she ended up with a $50 k propina. Before leaving the Manager apologized to my friend and asked him to tell me it won't happen again, please come back. A word to the wise, in the Casa, pay the Manager directly afterwards, do not pay the girl directly! Anything you give her is considered propina. These fucking girls are hustlers, it's a tough life so I guess I can't blame them. I feel management handled it well but regardless it left a bad taste in my mouth and I didn't go back.

Anyhow, we grab a drink at the Cafateria on the corner of Cra. 45 & 56 to recover some, then right across the street to checkout Coffee Shop which is the casa in the brick building that says "Bliss Suite Hotel. " It's on the ground floor but the place is a dive, 6-7 girls but nothing we liked so we passed. By this time it was around 6:30 and I knew most of the places close around 7-8 pm so we hurry down the street to Aiffe. A bit better than Coffee Shop but not as nice as New Life, 7-8 girls and there was a super tall chic in red lingerie that caught my attention, she had to be close to 6 ft with no heels and she had on huge glasses that made her look like Wonder Woman. I had to have her! She told me she was from Medellin but later admitted she was from Venezuela. Nothing special in the bedroom, no BBBJ but nice eye candy in all positions. I suspect she would be a better performer if I caught her fresh but I know it's the end of the day and I'm starting to take longer to cum now so she earned her cash for sure. I gave her a $20 k propina.

I'm not sure if I have the name correct but we head down to Club de Amigas on Carrera 45, #57-55. This was a pleasant surprise, they had probably 10-12 girls, 2-3 were fuggly as fuck, but there were 2 that I really liked, one was a 7 and one was a 8 on my scale. I really wanted to session with them but no way could I fuck after my last session with no recovery time. It was around 7:30 ish and they were almost closing so we said we would come back. We scurry down to Sexy Amiga's, again not sure if I have the name correct but the one on 45 the #57-67 but it was closed. We grab a cab back to the hotel and check the Mansion cave. At least 2 guys to every girl there and most of the chicas were paired up already, I don't see anything of interest and I'm exhausted so call it an early night and head back to Mansion 2 and crash. The next morning I find out my friend had Robert at Mansion 2 call a girl for him, I think he did a todo la noche but can't remember.

Day 4 - I'm up early and glad I got a good night sleep to recover, the girl makes me some eggs, toast, fruit & fresh orange juice for breakfast, and I relax and check emails till my friend is ready. We grab a cab down to Santo Domingo metro station to take the cable cars up to the top of the mountain, it was a nice experience. Oddly we have to pay for the tickets, take the cable car up to one stop, get out and make a long line to pay for another set of tickets to the top. Why can't we pay for both sets at once? Anyhow, at the top they have a few vendors and a park, we hang out for a bit and head back down (again having to pay for the tickets at both stops.) Grab a cab to Centro as I wanted to check the strip clubs, we hit Maracaibo & Ejectiva, but both are closed because it's too early, so we take a walk to check the street action. We walk down to Calle 55 over to Park Bolivar, stopping at a bar / restaurant along the way to watch the Germany / Sweden game. Not a lot of action at this time, we walk back up from Bolivar on Calle 56 then back to Carrera 50. A few girls were across the street that looked hot as fuck, but my friend felt "shy" about talking to the girls in the street with everyone walking by and starring so we didn't cross over. What a pussy, he's embarrassed to buy Viagra in the pharmacies so always makes me do it, LOL. Anyway, we walked down Calle 55 for a block till we saw a huge tranny, he had to be 6'2" at least, and I said owww shit, I think this is the same dude I saw on Google Earth Street View in the same area. Go to street view and check Calle 55 just west of Carrera 50 and you will see a HUGE tranny in a blue dress. LOL. Notice how much bigger she is than the guy walking past her. Well she is even bigger in person. LMAO. Anyhow, we crossed the street and walked back to 53 to check Ejectiva again, still closed. So we walk down to Calle 53 to Conejitas Strip Club that had just opened. Dude, this place sucked! There were at least 60 guys in here and 5 girls at best. Maybe it was because it was so early but we had two beers each and left.

Time to check the street action! So we walk through Parke Botero, past the statues and the pay phones and hang a right at the church, a granny or two but nothing really. It's a Saturday and early afternoon so I guess we can't expect much. We hang a right on Carrera 53 and I got that little pump of adrenaline, you know when you get that rush because you have been anticipating this experience for a while now. LOL. So we walk down 53 for a block, cross the street at the park and walk back on the other side. Man this place is crowded as fuck, but not a lot of girls around. We cross the street again basically making a full circle, and walk the same block again. There are a couple girls hanging in a few doorways but everything I saw was a 4 at best. Nothing we see that we like. Okay, let's go check De Grieffe I tell my friend. He is blown away that I know where all this shit is. LOL. So we walk up to Calle 53, pass the Excalibur Casino and down to Bienvenidos bar for a drink. The best looking street talent we have seen so far is in the doorway right in front of us, 3 girls, all very doable. Just like watching porn, you are never happy with what you are watching right now, you have to change the channel to see what else is on, well same situation here. I say let's walk the area to check the talent so we pass for now and walk a block down Carrera 54 before crossing the street and doubling back on the other side. We round the corner back on CL. 53, there is one girl with talent but we decide to go back to the girls we saw earlier, so we cross the street again and go back. We both pick our girls who asked for $50 k each plus $16 k for the room, (a whopping US $24) we didn't bother negotiating and accepted, and off we go. Rooms were better than I was expecting, my girl was from Bogota and had a killer body, but she was kind of cold. No BBBJ, even offered her $20 k propina and she refused which was disappointing, you would think the street girls would be more willing to do extras, but oww well, it's not a deal breaker for me. I like them to start in cowgirl for a while, flip them over to doggie and finish in mish. I pounded the shit out of her in doggie and kept playing with her ass. It was funny cause she kept flinching and moving my hand away but after a while I could tell she started to enjoy it and eventually let me get a fingertip in her ass while I was pounding her. LOL, a small victory for me. Finish in mish, damn its getting hard to cum now, take a quick shower and off we go. We walk back to Maracaibo which is now open, they only had a few girls but my friend liked one so we stayed and had a few drinks. Eventually I convince him to split and check out Ejectiva next door. Much more girls and nicer atmosphere all around. It was Saturday evening now and we can see the girls starting to trickle in. We relax for a few hours and drink, by about 9-10 pm I am horny again and ready to go. I had my eye on a really cute Paisa with a peach top for most of the evening but she got taken by another dude. I end up grabbing a sexy little blonde paisa with a 9 body and 8 face, best fuck of the trip for me. We go upstairs for $80 k, its funny because the doorway to the rooms upstairs is actually hidden in the toilet stall of the men's bathroom. LOL. This girl rocks my world! BBBJ was to die for, passionate, and likes it up the ass! I hit the jackpot. She asks for $100 k propina for anal, I counter at $50 k and we settle for $70 k. What is that, like $30 for sex and an extra $25 tip for anal. This chick would be $500 an hour in Miami for straight sex, and I'm fucking her up the ass for less than $60! Medellin rocks! Damn I fucked this girl till I was blue in the face, I couldn't cum even fucking her in the ass. I had her switch back to cowgirl to give me a break before finally going back to doggie and eventually finishing in mish. Holy shit, what a workout! No showers here, the room is stuffy and the guy was knocking on the door for the past 15 minutes but I need another 5 to cool off in front of the fan before getting dressed and heading back down stairs. My friend waits for me to get back before he takes a girl upstairs, when he is done we eventually leave and head to Parke Lleras for dinner. We bought dinner for the cab driver too, why not. Afterwards we head to the Mansion cave. We check the bar again but it's the same story, sausage fest with a lot of guys, most of the girls are paired up already with only 2-3 available, but no way either of us can fuck again so we pass and head back to the room and crash.

Day 5 Its Sunday and Colombia is playing Poland in the World Cup at 1 pm. We are psyched to watch the game in Medellin. Have the same breakfast and want to go by the stadium to watch the game. Of course I know Energy casa is right next to the stadium so the plan was to get one pop before the game so we get there early. Their website says they are open on Sundays but I guess with the game they were closed, which was disappointing. We walk back to the stadium and watch the game at a bar / restaurant right next to the big screen they had outside the stadium. Great game that Colombia won 3-0, great atmosphere and everyone was happy. Afterwards we go back to Energy just to check again, but they were still closed damn it. Oww well. I know most of the Casas are closed and most of the strip clubs don't open till later, so we grab a cab to Luna Lunera as I heard this joint was 24 hours. We get there and no customers and a whopping 2 girls, one was a 5 and the other a 6 on my scale. We feel pretty desperate so after a round of $20 k Coronas we take the girls to the room, I can't remember exactly but I think it was $170 k for an hour. Rooms were very nice and clean, but both girls were duds and we should have gotten a half hour instead. Bunch of veterans making Rookie mistakes. My chic had the worst boob job I have ever seen. Scars that went around her nipples, down the seam of her boobs and underneath the cup. Usually you would see a scar in one of these locations, but never in all three. Anyway, after a crappy, robotic fuck we head back to the hotel to relax for a while before heading to Parke Lleras for dinner again. We have a decent dinner, spotted one working girl who insisted she was not working but wanted to join us for dinner, LOL, but we pass. We walk around afterwards and have a few drinks at one of the bars, people were still celebrating the Colombia victory earlier today. This scene reminded me of my college days, it was cool but I'm not 25 and single anymore. We decide to split, I want to try Fase II but my buddy wants to go back to Ejectiva as he wants to fuck the girl I had the previous night. LOL. So we go back but she wasn't there, we hang out for a while and I spot the girl I wanted to take the night before. She was pretty easy to identify because she is wearing the same peach top as yesterday, LOL. We call her over and she hangs out, we buy her a few drinks and my friend wants to take girls back to the hotel. We ask her to point out some of her friends who she knows well and is comfortable with, so we select the best one and negotiate a todo la noche. It was an $80 k exit fee per girl, and we gave them $150 k each. They tried to get us to pay the bar the full $230 k upfront but I refused and said I would give the bar $80 k and pay them the rest at the hotel. I should have paid more attention to this red flag as these girls were awful! I thought the Luna Lunera chicks were bad, these girls didn't want to party, wanted to fuck in separate rooms, wouldn't let us switch off even for extra propina, I mean WTF? Are these girls hookers or not? Anyway, I get my nut out with my chick, we go back to my friends room and hang out for a little while, and I decide to crash about an hour later. The next day my friend said he stayed with them for about another hour after I crashed and sent them off.

Day 6 last day here so we have to make it count. Have the usual breakfast, watch a World Cup game, then off for a Pablo Escobar tour. Instead of an official tour, Robert arranged a bilingual driver to take us around, which was better IMO. We went to the building that the Cali Cartel bombed to try and kill his family, the Cathedral prison he built for himself up in the mountains, and his grave site. Another touristy area that had a nice view, overall it was ok, not that much to see but it was nice just to drive around the city. We spend about 4-hours with him and I think he charged $30 k per hour, so we paid him $150 k with tip if memory serves. It was getting late and we have pussy to fuck, so we have the driver (can't remember his name) drop us off at Energy by the stadium. Damn they got a nice lineup of around 15 girls, 2-3 were 5's on my scale but most were 7-8. I pick a classic looking paisa chic as you should know by now I like these types of girls, and up to the room. Awesome rooms, I grab a quick shower. The girl makes a half ass attempt at a massage, condom blowjob and another robotic fuck. Man, I'm really picking the dudes this trip. I know I lost a few steps and put on a few pounds these last few years, but I used to do much better with the chicas. Anyway. When I flip her over to mish the girl has a skanky smelling pussy and that just kills my heart on. I quickly flip her back to doggie and concentrate like hell to get my first nut of the day out. I grab another quick shower and back to the waiting room for a good 20-minutes waiting for by friend to finish. He had an awesome experience and really liked the place, he said best place we had been to by far. We head out and grab some food in the area, then back to the hotel to freshen up. Early evening and we check the Cave again but again nothing of interest so we finally head to Fase II. $20 K cover and beers are $20 k each, damn we dropped $80 k and had only been here 5-minutes. Girls were smoking hot though, there were two I would rate at a 6 but the others were 8's and a few 9's by my scale, Victoria Secret models. There were probably 15+ girls and maybe 10-15 customers, but every single girl was glued to her phone. One of the 9's danced on stage for 2 songs then walked around for tips afterwards, I gave her a $10 k tip and told her to come back and see us when she was finished, but she never did. I think two other girls danced on stage for the hour or so we stayed there, and we eventually left. I love a top shelf girl as much as the next guy, but if they were this disinterested while working, I imagine they would be even worse in bed. I'the rather a 7 girl who rocks in the bedroom than a 9 who's a robot. Anyhow, we caught a cab to San Diego strip club which was just down the road. Mostly 6's but one or two 7's & 8's and much more aggressive and personable, the girls actually try to get your attention. Problem was I did a few bumps in the bathroom and my dick was passed out so there was no way I could fuck right now. My friend grabbed a girl and took her upstairs and I hung out til he was done. Afterwards went back to Ejectiva hoping I could find the cula girl I fucked the first night I was there, but she wasn't working again, so I grabbed a girl I had seen the previous few nights. She was a little energizer bunny, awesome fuck, everything except she wouldn't let me fuck her in the ass, but totally accommodating. Afterwards she even checked my socks and turned my underwear right side out again that is how accommodating she was, reminded me of an Asian chic at the massage parlors. Usually the Latinas are not that obliging. Gave her a $20 k tip and $10 k to the security guy as we were there for a good hour and the place was closed. When I got downstairs the place was empty and my buddy was there waiting. Cab back to the hotel and our trip was done, packed and had to be at the airport by 7 am to catch a 9 am flight to Miami.

Overall observations Cartagena is too touristy and hot as fuck! I think the same thing of Jaco in Costa Rica so if that is your thing, you may enjoy it. Medellin is a beautiful city, great climate and awesome people. The people are extremely friendly and polite everywhere you go, one example is Colombia is the first Latin culture I have experienced where they don't blow their car horns 24/7 as its considered rude. Poblado felt like being in Miami with the shops and restaurants, and I never felt threatened or unsafe, even walking the Centro streets in areas where gringos typically don't venture. Granted I would not feel comfortable walking some of these areas at night, but during the day I had no issues.

Mansion was a nice operation and I can't say enough good things about the staff. Even at Mansion 2 they have someone in the office 24/7 to help you with anything you need, whether its calling you a taxi, ordering food for you, arranging a tour, getting you Viagra, or ordering you a girl late night. The last night at 7:55 pm we realized we were low on cash, Robert says the currency exchange closes in 5 minutes, he drops what he is doing and drives us down there personally so we make it before closing. If it's your first trip to Colombia, I would highly recommend them. I was a bit disappointed with the quantity of girls in the Cave at Mansion but we never hung around there for more than an hour, and I think we kept going at odd times when things were slow. It's not a place like Del Rey in Costa Rica that you can grab a girl for a quickie whenever you want, its more GFE and most of the guys we met there were single and networking most of their chicas on FB. In hindsight I wish I had grabbed a girl from Fase II, and we never made it to Loutron which I wanted to try at least once. Overall we got the full buffet of street girls, casas, strip clubs and at least my friend hit a Mansion chica to round things off. As always, YMMV, you can find total duds and great GFE / PSE girls at any location and at any price range, so going high end does not guarantee a great experience, nor does low end guarantee a poor one. Cash wise this was the cheapest trip we ever made, we normally travel with $3-4 k each per trip, and spend every last dollar no matter how much we have. I think I spend $2,000 - $2,500 including hotel. Campo Alegre in Curacao is also cheap as hell, US $30 per girl with a huge selection of Colombian and Dominican chicas, but the rest of the island is expensive so you will pay more for meals, hotel, rental car, etc. Whereby all of this was very cheap in Medellin. Cab rides were $15-20 k from Poblado to Centro and always metered, some of the drivers don't know how to find the addresses but from a safety perspective there was never any issues.

Below was the homework I did on Medellin before my trip. I took a screen shot and saved it as my wallpaper on my phone so I always had the addresses handy. If you want to hit Casas or street action I strongly recommend scouting the locations on google earth street view to get familiar with your surroundings. Hopefully this info is useful for my fellow mongers.

1. Mansion. Carrera 43 #2 Sur 50 Poblado. (girls $150 k).

Mansion 2 - Carrera 38 #2 Sur 151.

2. Loutron. Calle 16 a Sur #500. ($10 k cover, $160-210 k).

3. Faze II. Carrera 44 #30-15. ($190 k on site).

4. Luna Lunera. Avenida 33 #63 be 215. ($150 k on site).

5. Fantasia Energy. Carrera 74 #101. ($130-150 k).

6. Relax / Tantra Massage. Carrera 80 #44 be 139.

7. Coffee Shop. Carrera 45. #55-45. ($40-70 K).

8. New Life. Calle 56 #49-39. ($50-80 k).

9. Aiffe. Calle 57 #43-27. ($40-70 k).

10. Club de Amigas. Carrera 45 # 57-55. ($40-70 k).

11. Club de Amigas Sexy. Carrera 45 the, #57-67. ($50-80 k).

12. Barra Ejectiva. Calle 53 48-20. ($80 k +-).

13. Maracaibo. Calle 53 #49-30. ($80 k +-).

14. Conejitas. Calle 53 #51-41. ($80 k +-).

15. Centro street girls. Carrera 53 & Calle 51. ($30 k +-).

Did you see her before paying or after? If you saw her at the door before you paid, why didn't you just say to her that she looked nothing like her photo and leave?

[QUOTE=MedellinTaster;2199178]On some occasion my whatsapp came a picture of a very beautiful woman, when I arrived in Medellin look for scorts in "mileroticos" and surprise. It was her, the beautiful woman. All the services included. But there was something that generated distrust, price $ 80 COP x 30 min (a scort of that level and economic).

She has an apartment to receive the clients, she is located in the Poblado, we agreed and when she opened she noticed that many girls work there.

The face was not the same, if it was her but the face was ugly and fat. We entered the room and I felt ripped off: No BBBJ, no 69, no different positions, no kisses and dead cow. Bad sex. Regular vaginal for 30 min and I decided to leave.

Experience: not all beautiful girls are good sex or GFE, this time I lost.

Attached video. I hope you like it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2199197]I understand that you don't care what I think, and of course you may spend your money how you please. But there are other mongers that may want to come to Colombia and not get ripped off. So consider my response for them. Not sure why people get offended when another monger tries to pull his coat tail. I thought that is what the board was for.[/QUOTE]I never quite understood the argument on these mongering boards that what one guy pays his hookers is going to affect what the rest of us pay. I'm guess that you feel like the hookers will ask more after being "spoiled" by senior deep pockets. Well, they can ask for whatever they want, but you are not obligated to pay it. Do you understand what I'm saying? You can say no, and find somebody else who will accept your offer. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of working women in Medellin, I'm sure he won't spoil all of them. LOL.

Americans, in general, are very flashy. We love to show off. I remember on my very first trip to Costa Rica over 10 years ago, I showed pics of my car to some random hooker to try to impress her. (It was a 1989 Honda Civic. It wasn't but that would be sad). So I don't discount the possibility that the guys who overpay do so knowingly to try to win favor / impress / whatever you want to call it with the girls.

1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.

I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.

2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.

3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices.

4. I will do a part 2 of my trip when I finish. Suffice to say, I am having a great time. This is my type of vacation. Mixing adventure, I. E. , mountain biking, hiking, sight-seeing, learning the culture and of course, the women. I have found a woman to accompany me on most of my excursions. With some, there was no sex and that was okay. I didn't pay anything except expenses. It was helpful to have someone with me that spoke fluent Spanish as well as English and to have company.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199416]1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.

I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.

2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.

3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices.

4. I will do a part 2 of my trip when I finish. Suffice to say, I am having a great time. This is my type of vacation. Mixing adventure, I. E. , mountain biking, hiking, sight-seeing, learning the culture and of course, the women. I have found a woman to accompany me on most of my excursions. With some, there was no sex and that was okay. I didn't pay anything except expenses. It was helpful to have someone with me that spoke fluent Spanish as well as English and to have company.[/QUOTE]I have used SA in the USA, Colombia and the DR and have had great success. It is not for everyone because it is time consuming, I am retired and have plenty of time on my hands. Some of my best experiences with girls have come from SA. The one piece of advise I would give anyone using SA is to at some point when chatting with a potential hook up is to bring up sex otherwise as you have found out you may end up on a real date and not get any sex on the first meeting. There are girls on SA that think SA is a regular dating site, the USA Girls not so much but I have run into many naive girls from both the DR and Colombia.

This is as much common sense as it is market dynamics. As I wrote before, no one honestly believes their aren't plenty of guys paying way above market rates but the market is not overheated. This is because supply far exceeds the demand of guys who pay at, below, and above market rates.

In a closed market like one of the gringo hotels or seeking arrangement, the demand can sometimes exceed the supply. Loutron, for example, keeps its market closed by being isolated from other casas. They would have a harder time getting their rate if you could walk to a competitor in less than 5 minutes. It is the same concept that explains why a bottle of water in an airport shop costs so much more than it does outside the closed market of the airport concourse. There is huge demand but a limited supply among very few providers.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2199316]I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.[/QUOTE]

In the real world, it is the ratio of available cars of any certain class to the number of buyers that determines pricing levels and the willingness of buyers to pay them. It's known as market economics. As in any quantitative system, there are outliers (e. G. Buyers willing to pay above market rates). Outliers by definition are grossly outnumbered, rendering their impact on a market negligible. Seeking Arrangement, mansion, etc are not the same market as mileroticos, Centro casas, or facebook bunnies. Any girl in a mileroticos, Centro or facebook market who demands a rate from a different market will be denied more often than not-until she gets an outlier. Outliers don't move markets. Emotion driven decision making in financial markets (yes, mongering is a financial market) creates outliers, but again, outliers don't move markets. So back to girls, this is not the bloody Financial Times after all.

[QUOTE=Socker;2199310]A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.

That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.

Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.

There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.[/QUOTE]

I like your style.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199416]1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.

I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.

2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.

3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices..[/QUOTE]

Excellent report, honest, fair, and informative. It's clear you and your friend are experienced. Thank you for sharing.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.

A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199232] I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney.[/QUOTE]You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.

However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.

In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.

The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.

If guys are sensitive to comments on their spending habits, then maybe they shouldn't post their expenditures. It can always be revealed in PM.

Aren't we here to discuss and learn? If your not able to handle opinions and criticism whether constructive or otherwise, that's unfortunate.

I don't mind contributors posting what they pay because I know who has negotiation skills and who doesn't get it.

Everyone wants a great deal and your a liar if you don't.

BTW, Tipping is still a city in China IMO, LOL.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199416]1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
[/QUOTE]You could post links to their ads or their SA user names. That's all public info anyway.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Day 3 - Medellin at last! Been dying to go here for years, and finally here after a short 1-hour flight from Cartagena. Staying at the Mansion 2 and they arrange a driver to pick us up for $75 k. Fernando was waiting when we arrived. I walked out of the airport and the weather was perfect, low 70's, no humidity and a slight chill in the air. I was in heaven. Shortly afterwards I discover the airport is a good 2,000 ft higher than the city, it's at 7,000 ft and the city is 4,900 ft, so it's much cooler here, damn it. Anyhow, Medellin is warmer but overall comfortable, nothing like Cartagena. We get to the hotel around noon but our rooms won't be ready till 4 pm. We grabbed our cash and passports, left our bags with the office, and walked down Poblado avenue to the outdoor complex to the currency exchange (2,750 was the best exchange rate we got) and pretty decent since the current rate was 2,900. We changed some cash and walked to Santa Fe mall across the street, awesome 5-story shopping mall. I felt like I was back in the states. Walked to Hard Rock and had lunch and watched a World Cup game, then back to the hotel and got settled. Freshened up and grabbed a cab down to Centro as I was dying to hit some Casas. I did my homework before the trip and knew there were 5 Casas within walking distance of each other, and located them on Google Earth "street view" so I knew exactly what they looked like and could navigate the area comfortably..[/QUOTE]Nice report!

I also had a bad visit my one time to Energy. However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway. I have yet to have a Medellin girl with any bad odor and I have been down on a few, my condolences on your Energy girl.

If you go back give Conejitas a few tries at different times. I have been in and out of the main 3 Centro clubs a lot in the last year and while Conejitas has a lower avg hottness, their A Team girls when they are there will usually be the hottess in the Centro strip clubs. Barra Ejective usually has more 6-7's but Conejitas sometime has some 8+'s. And Conejitas rooms are much nice then those dark sweat boxes Barra Ejectiva has, I even like Maracaibo's tiny rooms better then BE's.

And the redlight blocks need several laps a day to find something, that's why I stay close to there hotel-wise. Behind the Vera Cruz white church has occasional cuties 30 k, the DeGreiff and carr54 block will have usually / ocaasionally some hotter ones for 50 k+. My fav girl in 4 trips of 6 days each was a Vera Cruz street girl who was cool, hot, chill, horny and fun, gave her 80 k for about 4 hours in my room.

Conejitas girls I have met:

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2199606]Nice report!

However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway.

[/QUOTE]I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.

What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2199769]I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.

What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?[/QUOTE]Well according to the report I was responding to, she keeps it as a tip and then you still owe the whole amount to the desk. Not sure if they had a communication issue or she was trying to rip him off though.

Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2199815]Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's too bad, Sofy was on my radar too, does she least look as hot in person?

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2199815]Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2199820]Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.[/QUOTE]They were indeed the same girl as in the photos on their ads. I had a couple of bait and switch ME girls in CTG last May, but other than that I have had extremely good success on Mileroticos and this is the first trip I have used photo Photo Prepagos. I will continue to use in ME and PP until the law of averages catches up with me. As usual Facebook has been a gold mine this trip as in the other trips to the MDE.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2199514]You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.

However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.

In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.

The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.[/QUOTE]Black Page, You don't get it. Jooks said he paid [B]up to[/B] 400 K for women who spent multi hours to [B]all night[/B] with him, including one that came all the way from Cali. He found them on [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL]. Women there run the gamut from virgins to hard core putas. Some of us avoid the hard core ones there, and cut them loose as soon as they start talking price. Instead we use the site to rent girlfriends, not to find high volume prostitutes for dinner and a poke. You give her what you want to. If she likes you or if you're generous she'll probably want to see you again. If she was an 8 or a 9, acted like a girlfriend, and Jook paid 400 K and spent half the day or all night with her and had a great time, more power to him. He did very well. If you want to bang as many hookers as you can and pay less, more power to you too. You and he have different preferences, different styles. Neither is superior. Neither of you is naive.

It was obvious from Jooks' first post that he was adverse to criticism. I would have liked to have heard more about his SA dates, but that's probably not going to happen now.

Wonderful report. I was in Cartagena last month and after reading your report I'll be in Medellin in October.

Thanks for such detail!

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.

A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2199847]Black Page, You don't get it. Jooks said he paid [B]up to[/B] 400 K for women who spent multi hours to [B]all night[/B] with him, including one that came all the way from Cali. He found them on [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL]. Women there run the gamut from virgins to hard core putas. Some of us avoid the hard core ones there, and cut them loose as soon as they start talking price. Instead we use the site to rent girlfriends, not to find high volume prostitutes for dinner and a poke. You give her what you want to. If she likes you or if you're generous she'll probably want to see you again. If she was an 8 or a 9, acted like a girlfriend, and Jook paid 400 K and spent half the day or all night with her and had a great time, more power to him. He did very well. If you want to bang as many hookers as you can and pay less, more power to you too. You and he have different preferences, different styles. Neither is superior. Neither of you is naive.

It was obvious from Jooks' first post that he was adverse to criticism. I would have liked to have heard more about his SA dates, but that's probably not going to happen now.[/QUOTE]I see both sides of this argument.

I don't see anything wrong with Jooks paying some hot chick off of SA 400 mill for her to fucked him like he was her boyfriend.

But I also agree with Black Page. There is absolutely no need to pay a hot chick 400 mill for a GFE unless she just doesn't like you much or she has a boatload of other guys offering her 400 mill or more. Which means she isn't low mileage.

The real GFE is when you get a hot chick to come over and fuck you without ever discussing money and when she is getting ready to leave you give her 200 mill. Some will refuse the money and act insulted. But you insist that they take the money so there is no confusion about what type of relationship you have with her. A dead end relationship.

There is no right or wrong here. But guys with time constrains and little experience in Medellin will usually pay more.

Seems to me that Jooks might be telling himself that this girl must really like him because she fucked him real good and wasn't a clock watcher. But 400 mill is a lot of money in Colombia. Especially for a girl that hardly ever sells her ass.

But who knows. Maybe she would have gladly taken 200 mill or maybe even nothing if he had asked.

Would be telling to see the conversation that lead up to the 400 mill price tag at any rate.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2199847]Black Page, You don't get it..........[/QUOTE]Ok thanks. Good arguments.

I limited the chicas that I see to ones that I can communicate with. For those here that speak fluent Spanish, you have the pick of the litter on SA with a little game. I have to settle for a small but growing minority that speak at least a little English. However, coupled with my basic Spanish, I can get by relatively well.

I defied that rule yesterday. Her SA photos seemed too good to be true. But I was free. I met her at one of the big malls in El Centro. I could not believe that she looked even better in person. 25 years old and could easily be a model. A 10. But I was sorry I didn't follow my rule. She didn't speak any English and making the emotional connection that I seek seemed impossible. We had lunch, she bought shoes (she paid) and we had a pleasant time together even though understanding one another was difficult. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I explained that it wasn't going to work and she understood. Not an easy thing for me to do, that is, to pass up a goddess. I think a lot less with my dick these days. We parted ways amiably. Frankly, the lack of prioritizing sex has at times turned out to be an asset. Except for hard-core chicas, SA women mostly seem to want conversation and an emotional connection. Perhaps it's an excuse to rationalize sex for money.

Surprisingly, she messaged me a few hours later. We totally hit it off in whatsapp and seemed to make that elusive connection I seek. It seemed she liked that I wasn't like other guys she saw, wam bam thank you ma'am. Her looks were deceiving. I thought she was totally out of my league, but she turned out to be down to earth. Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.

I'll say it again. SA is great if you have patience and time. You can find most every type there.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200011]

Surprisingly, she messaged me a few hours later. We totally hit it off in whatsapp and seemed to make that elusive connection I seek. It seemed she liked that I wasn't like other guys she saw, wam bam thank you ma'am. Her looks were deceiving. I thought she was totally out of my league, but she turned out to be down to earth. Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.

I'll say it again. SA is great if you have patience and time. You can find most every type there.[/QUOTE]Great report!

You obviously have a good system for yourself and a good head on your shoulders.

Whatever you decided to "gift" that last girl, I'm sure it was appropriate. 😁👍🏼

Keep enjoying!

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200011]

Long story short, I spent the best 3 hours with her in my room that I can remember. As for price, I learned my lesson to keep my mouth shut, but suffice to say the cost was reasonable and we'll be seeing each other again.

.[/QUOTE]When you are looking to make a connection with chicks. The price needs to be more than just reasonable it needs to be very reasonable.

The whole point to making a connection is that you enjoy each other's company inside the bedroom as well as out. And that you see each other regularly.

If you are paying a chick 400 mill a night that is 4 million after just ten nights together. In Medellin you can have a super hot chick live with you for month, fuck you a couple times a day and keep your house clean for 3 million or less per month.

And yeah it will seem like she likes you better than other guys that just want to give her cash for sex because well she has to really like you to spend that much time with you, Right? Jajaja.

I have found it is much better just to relax and enjoy the ride and not try and rationalize why this chicas do what they do. Because they have a very different thought process then we do.

For one thing the time that a girl spends with you has very little to do with how much a chick likes you or even how much sex she has with you (some chicks just like to get nailed plain and simple).

If I had to pick just one thing that gives a good indication of how much a chick really likes you here. It would be how well and how long a chick will make out with you. Any chick here that will make out with you for 15 to 20 minutes solid is into you. The rest are just faking it. Jajaja.

No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.

I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.

I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.

I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2200076]When you are looking to make a connection with chicks. The price needs to be more than just reasonable it needs to be very reasonable.

The whole point to making a connection is that you enjoy each other's company inside the bedroom as well as out. And that you see each other regularly.

If you are paying a chick 400 mill a night that is 4 million after just ten nights together. In Medellin you can have a super hot chick live with you for month, fuck you a couple times a day and keep your house clean for 3 million or less per month.

And yeah it will seem like she likes you better than other guys that just want to give her cash for sex because well she has to really like you to spend that much time with you, Right? Jajaja.

I have found it is much better just to relax and enjoy the ride and not try and rationalize why this chicas do what they do. Because they have a very different thought process then we do.

For one thing the time that a girl spends with you has very little to do with how much a chick likes you or even how much sex she has with you (some chicks just like to get nailed plain and simple).

If I had to pick just one thing that gives a good indication of how much a chick really likes you here. It would be how well and how long a chick will make out with you. Any chick here that will make out with you for 15 to 20 minutes solid is into you. The rest are just faking it. Jajaja.[/QUOTE]

Good report. I have had similar luck with Colombian Cupid. I'm not a casa fan either. It does take some time and patience, but a little effort before your trip will pay off.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200011]I limited the chicas that I see to ones that I can communicate with. For those here that speak fluent Spanish, you have the pick of the litter on SA with a little game. I have to settle for a small but growing minority that speak at least a little English. However, coupled with my basic Spanish, I can get by relatively well.

I defied that rule yesterday. Her SA photos seemed too good to be true. But I was free. I met her at one of the big malls in El Centro. I could not believe that she looked even better in person. 25 years old and could easily be a model. A 10. But I was sorry I didn't follow my rule. She didn't speak any English and making the emotional connection that I seek seemed impossible. We had lunch, she bought shoes (she paid) and we had a pleasant time together even though understanding one another was difficult. I can think of worse ways to spend my time. I explained that it wasn't going to work and she understood. Not an easy thing for me to do, that is, to pass up a goddess. I think a lot less with my dick these days. We parted ways amiably.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200081]No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.

I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.

I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.

I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.[/QUOTE]No offense taken.

Thanks for sharing.

Anything is better than another post about which chick is the best poke at the local casa.

It's great that you are trying to up your experience with chicks right from the start.

My only advice to you is.

You shouldn't be paying women that actually enjoy your company a premium.

You should be paying them less.

Gratitud is one of the least enduring of human emotions.

The only thing I would add to the recent discussion is that we can all get some good girls (suitable, adequate) for $200 k COP but there was some suggestion here that exceptional ones can be had for that amount and I know that the really good girls are not in the 200 range. There are barrio girls and then there are absolute trophies and I don't think most of us are getting the best of Colombia for $70 US. Truth be told, by the time I can get one of the best available to come I end up wishing I had just taken the low hanging fruit. Both levels have their drawbacks and the best looking higher status girls aren't always the most fun, best sex, or interesting in person. Yes, I know there are exceptions and occasionally we find a very good girl in need of quick money.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200081]No offense, and I mean this in all sincerity, I think there's too much analysis here. -.

I am not a kiss and tell person and I learned my lesson about mentioning prices.

I am a happy camper and that's all that matters to me. If anyone wants to know particulars (within limits) please PM me.

I enjoy writing reports because I like to share and I like to write. However, my reports may be lacking in information for some of you. Sorry. Please don't make this onerous -.[/QUOTE]Here is some practical advice for you even though you aren't asking.

Some times you will find some hot chick some where that just doesn't want to hook up with you for 200 mill.

Probably the best advice is just to keep looking but if she is really to my liking then I have offered up to 300 mill.

For todo la noche.

I take the chick out and I wine her dine her and sixty nine her.

I make sure she has a good time in as well as outside the bedroom.

Then when it is time to pay her the next day.

I tell her that I normally pay 200 mill per night but that I understand that we agreed to 300 mill.

And that is ok.

But if you want to go out tomorrow night just take the 200 and I'll pay you another 200 tomorrow and every night that you want to meet up.

Otherwise here is the 300 mill that we agreed upon and it was nice meeting you.

Like I said before.

It is better just to walk away because literally 9 out of 10 times theses women will take the money and say adios.

But there is always that one in 10 that will take the 200 mill and keep coming back for it again and again

The bottom line is.

If it is all about money for her.

It should be all about sex for you.

So wam bam.

I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.

If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.

Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??

Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?

Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200239]Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?

Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. [/QUOTE]Would it be okay to pay $17-$34 more fore a taxi ride? How about $17-$34 more for a hotel? (Actually foreigners pay less for hotels because they are not subject to the tax that Colombians must pay.) So why is it that when it comes to pussy some people are quick to forgive the rules of consumerism? Why would it matter how you look, or how long you are there, or what language you speak? Those are no excuses to allow yourself to be ripped off no matter what the transaction involves.

By the way, Cuba Dave was arrested in Costa Rica, not Colombia. There is no witch hunt for foreigners buying pussy in Colombia. Why would you think someone would be coming to arrest you if you negotiate the price? Buying pussy from an adult is not illegal in Colombia.

This has been more or less my philosophy.

I'm guessing that half the women I've been with don't even mention money. But these have been SA amateurs and trust that I'll do the right thing, which I try to do.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200239]I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.

If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.

Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??

Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?

Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2200267]Would it be okay to pay $17-$34 more fore a taxi ride? How about $17-$34 more for a hotel? (Actually foreigners pay less for hotels because they are not subject to the tax that Colombians must pay.) So why is it that when it comes to pussy some people are quick to forgive the rules of consumerism? Why would it matter how you look, or how long you are there, or what language you speak? Those are no excuses to allow yourself to be ripped off no matter what the transaction involves.

By the way, Cuba Dave was arrested in Costa Rica, not Colombia. There is no witch hunt for foreigners buying pussy in Colombia. Why would you think someone would be coming to arrest you if you negotiate the price? Buying pussy from an adult is not illegal in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Oh I think your misunderstanding me a little bit.

First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.

And yes as far as business prices like taxis or even massage parlors absolutely the price should stay the same for all agreed.

I'm referring to girls who are independents strip club girls face book girls etc.

It's very obvious we are going to get a higher price than an average Colombian. If I am paying even 300 Usd (750 k cop) for a tln with a super hot girl that's a 9 or 10. That is still considerably cheaper than what I would pay in the states so I don't consider it a rip off. If I bargain her down to 250 and she accepts I just got a better deal for myself no matter how you look at it.

Yes I understand for Colombian standards it may be ridiculous but I don't think it's being ripped off. Ripped off is like robbing me or not providing services that were promised for the $$ that's agreed.

Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.

I got a couple of PMs about stuff to do in and around Medellin with female company. I've only been here 2 weeks with one more to go, so I am far from an expert. However, I'll relate my experiences and observations so far. I like active vacations as opposed to laying on a beach or mongering all day. Following are some observations and a short list of things I have found.

My experience with using tours or even suggestions offered by my hotel hasn't been great. They have a vested interest in steering you to a particular tour company and it's probably best to use another means of getting recommendations.

Bicycling is a big time sport in Medellin and there are numerous options. I'm going on a tour in the Andes on Thursday and am using the following company:

[URL]https://2000mdescent.com/register/[/URL]

They have 3 different tours ranging in difficulty. The simplest tour only requires knowledge of how to ride a bike. My interaction with the company has been great and I have a good feeling that this may be the highlight of my stay. It's not cheap. It's $100 for the day but they offer a lot.

There's another bicycle and general tour company seemingly similar but they offer a wider range of options:

[URL]http://www.medellincitytours.com/[/URL]

I have no experience with them.

You can also rent a bicycle. I see many bicyclists in the street. However, even though there are many bicycle lanes, the car is still king and it seems motorists will run pedestrians or cyclists over to get to their destination a half second faster.

For hiking, a mild but breathtakingly hike is a scenic trip is Guatape. This is seemingly always listed as a must to do on just about every list. It's about 2 hours from Medellin. You don't really need a tour guide and a bus will suffice if you want to save money. A tour agency like the ones recommended above and below will probably have more options.

I used a small tour company to go to Santa Fe, a scenic town 90 minutes outside of Medellin. It's a high end tourist agency with a number of different options including customized trips, but not cheap. The tours are private.

[URL]http://willisbestguidemedellin.com/[/URL]

For general stuff to do, tripadvisor's list is a good reference:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.co/Attractions-g297478-Activities-Medellin_Antioquia_Department.html[/URL]

Paragliding is also popular but I haven't been able to fit it in, not that I tried that hard, haha. I did it once in Venezuela and practically had a heart attack when I jumped off the mountain.

Sort of related is the taxi situation in Medellin. Uber is generally half the price for local rides. It's also illegal, but that's another story. Yellow taxis have gotten lost too many times for my taste. They rarely use a navigator. But who can blame them for getting lost? I find the address system to be immensely confusing. There were many times that I input an address into Uber only to have Uber change it to another address.

Speaking of getting lost, I have a bad habit of doing so. I have no sense of direction. However, paisas are extremely friendly and helpful people. One time I got a ride back to my hotel in a police van. Another time, an elderly woman stopped 3 motorists to ask directions for me. There were many other acts of kindness. But I am digressing.

That was the easy part. As for finding a "compatible" companion to accompany on excursions, that might be a little tricky but I'm sure it's do-able. From what I can see, many if not most women have obligations. School, work, children, etc. However, I see many profiles on SA that indicate a willingness to travel and I think that would be your best source. The only word of caution I can offer is to get to know the woman a little first and don't overpay. If you get along with someone, the trip should probably be gratis or close to it. A pro will probably charge a fortune. I inquired with one person and she wanted 150 per hour.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200239]I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.

If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.

Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??

Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?

Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.

Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.

Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.

Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.

Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.

Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little.

How well you get along with Colombians depends on how well you treat Colombians. Treat them respect, show you respect their country, don't try to tell them how much better your country is, don't be insulting and you'll find Colombians to be some of the friendliest people in the world.

Here's a recent example. Two weeks ago a semi-pro friend messaged me about a gringo she had met. She was really enjoying his company and asked me to talk to him, because he wanted to learn some things about Medellin. Before I got a chance, she told me not to bother. The guy had made a joke about some waitress or cashier that she found disrespectful. One tasteless joke and he goes from being her "Principe azul" to being a "Bobo."

Another girl I know went from being firm on 250 k then down to 200 k, 150 k, then whatever I wanted to pay, but at least 60 k plus taxi. When she was bored she once came over and spent 3 hours for 30 k, 20 for the taxi and 10 for some weed. I've talked with other mongers who complained that she wouldn't budge off the 250.

Paying a few dollars extra isn't going to earn you any respect. It's just going to get you a lot of people with their hands out looking to get some of the money you're handing out.

To close, decide what you want to pay, then go from there. Whether you're paying the going rate, or 5 times the going rate doesn't matter. It won't affect the quality of the sessions, it won't change how much people like or respect you and it won't change the way people treat you. How you treat the people is more important than how much you pay them.

I really do not think that most Colombians think we are "taking advantage" of their women. Based on my 12 years of travel there and my 9 years married to a Colombian (now ex-wife), I suggest other reasons why they are not always happy to see us:

1) For some Colombianos, there is some jealous / annoyance that we are with their women, which many of them view more as property. Obviously, this does not apply to all, because many Colombianos directly benefit from the money we given their women.

2) For some of the middle and upper class Colombianos, there is some resentment that this "low class" (as they view them) barrio chicas are getting paid so much money. Which is much, much more than they pay them to clean their houses and perform other services. The class system is alive and well.

3) Middle and upper class Colombianos don't want these girls in their barrios. Including their restaurants, bars, and malls. So they resent us because we are the ones who are either taking them there or giving them the money to afford to go there (for example, to buy a new purse).

To me, the disdain expressed "officially" by the government and others about sex tourism is laughable. What would happen if every gringo simply stayed home? Think of how much money the hotels, apartment owners, and restaurants and bars would lose. Even more would not be able to pay their rent or feed their kids. The truth is that sex tourism is helpful to business owners, the girls themselves, and the government. I could go on, but I'll stop now.

And the truth is. If anyone sometimes gets taken advantage of, it's not the girls. It's the gringo.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200239] Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200239]I see all these posts about "gringo" prices. Considering that Colombia is not friendly at all towards sex tourism which is the only reason most of us go there to be completely honest.

If one can't pass for being Colombian whatsoever and can't barely speak the language.

Isn't it better not to hassle too much about the price??

Yes I do understand some prices girls spit out are ridiculous but if you pay 50-100 k more (17-34 $$) why is it wrong?

Some of us are only there for a couple days or don't look remotely Latin or unable to speak the language. And we are going into a country that doesn't welcome people like us at all. Unlike DR and CR the people here are not cool with you taking advantage of their women. Just my thoughts and not meant to offend anyone so any informative feedback would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have never felt uncomfortable in Colombia and I have been traveling to and living in Colombia for over 20 years.

Obviously I do a lot more here than pay for pussy.

But my feeling is that Colombians are against sex tourism but not really against prostitution.

The thing is that Gringos and Colombianos go at paying for pussy in very different ways. Colombianos would never bring a street walker into their home nor take a strata two chick into a nice restaurant.

Gringos just make it so obvious what they are doing that it can hardly be ignored. Even when some gringos take out a very attractive prepago that is dressed in expensive clothes and looks and acts like she came out of a strata six barrio. The gringos still can't pull it off. Because they dress like slobs.

If you don't have a problem with women letting you take them out in public and if they are affectionate with you in public then you are most likely doing OK in the public eye.

If you notice that your dates are hesitant to go out with you in public and they don't want to sit close to you when you are out then something is off.

I don't have a problem with guys paying what they want to pay a chick.
But I think it is wise to know what is customary and reasonable and if you are paying more than other guys.
Some guys are just going to have to pay more to get what they want and there is nothing much they can do about it. If chick wants to charge me more than she charges other guys or just more than normal then a take it as a bad sign and will usually just skip it.

When I initially meet a chick I judge them on their looks, attitude, personality and by what they want to charge to spend quality time with me.
If a chick is charging more than normal then I want to know why.

Spme chicks just charge more because they are very busy and have more potential clients than they can serve so they raise their price to make more money and eliminate the less lucrative customers.

Other women when they get popular don't raise their rates but rather get picky about who they sleep with.....those are the women I prefer to spend my time with.

Adding to current price discussion, I personally I walk away if I have to pay more than the market price even she is a 10. Girls trying to take more money home is normal, but its all about self controll in those situations I think.

Anyways, I have heard Colombia is surgery country but having not been there I don't know how wide spread problem it is. I wonder how likely are butt implant amongst prepagos or are they just born with huge behinds? Because half of the girls on escort sites have huge butt and slime waist, which is almost unreal to me coming from Europe and some of those thigh / ass ratio do look suspicious. Let me put bluntly, I admire big behinds but hate fake body parts.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200296]Oh I think your misunderstanding me a little bit.

First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.

And yes as far as business prices like taxis or even massage parlors absolutely the price should stay the same for all agreed.

I'm referring to girls who are independents strip club girls face book girls etc.

It's very obvious we are going to get a higher price than an average Colombian. If I am paying even 300 Usd (750 k cop) for a tln with a super hot girl that's a 9 or 10. That is still considerably cheaper than what I would pay in the states so I don't consider it a rip off. If I bargain her down to 250 and she accepts I just got a better deal for myself no matter how you look at it.

Yes I understand for Colombian standards it may be ridiculous but I don't think it's being ripped off. Ripped off is like robbing me or not providing services that were promised for the $$ that's agreed.

Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.[/QUOTE]There's no correlation between price paid and flakiness. This is especially true in Medellin. Colombians even joke about it. Being on time doesn't make it onto the priority list. Most paisas will just give you a blank look when you complain that they are 2 hours late. Time management is a foreign concept.

Part of the problem is their refusal to say "no. " Instead of telling you that they can't see you in 2 hours, they'll just agree and arrive on their schedule. Making an excuse is easier than just being straight. This is not limited to prepagos. If the cable guy is going to be there at 9 am Monday, it will be Wednesday before he tells you he'll be there Friday. Next day deliveries generally take 3 days.

So you can offer to pay more, but it just means you're paying more for the same sex and she's still going to be at least 30 minutes late.

If you insist on comparing prices at home to prices in Colombia, then do it for everything. That $4 complete meal, including fresh fruit juice and tip would be $25 or more in Manhattan. Why aren't you handing over 70 k? That $100 per night apartment is $350 or more. The least you could do is hand over 600 k. Those $5 taxi rides? $50 or more, but you're probably not handing out 100 k tips. Get a girl to take you shopping in El Centro. For $20 you can get $200 of fresh produce, at US prices. Ask her how much she pays for rent and utilities. Giving her a lot more than the going rate isn't helping her. If she buys a new phone someone will steal it. If she starts spending more money someone will rob her.

Unless you're planning on becoming a Western Union Novio, your extra money is just as likely to hurt as to help. And it will have no effect on what you receive.

From my experience, does not have an abnormally huge butt. Some do, but many (most?) do not. Many of them complain about their asses to me, even if I think it's perfect. Bigger always seems to be better.

Breast implants are still way more popular, but I have seen the butt implant become more popular. I can think of two girls I know who have had them in the past 6 months and another who always was proud that she was "natural" now telling me she is wanting to save money to have one.

I suspect many of the big asses you see are implants, although not all. The only way to find out for sure is if you see them and squeeze.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2200359]Adding to current price discussion, I personally I walk away if I have to pay more than the market price even she is a 10. Girls trying to take more money home is normal, but its all about self controll in those situations I think.

Anyways, I have heard Colombia is surgery country but having not been there I don't know how wide spread problem it is. I wonder how likely are butt implant amongst prepagos or are they just born with huge behinds? Because half of the girls on escort sites have huge butt and slime waist, which is almost unreal to me coming from Europe and some of those thigh / ass ratio do look suspicious. Let me put bluntly, I admire big behinds but hate fake body parts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200296]Also I read a lot about girls being flakes here and there. I ask you one simple question. If one were to be paying "gringo" prices I highly doubt that there would be such flakiness. We all have our own opinions but I don't feel like paying a little more is out of line or wrong for a girl to ask for. She sees an opportunity just like we do for cheaper pussy from hotter girls than the states.[/QUOTE]The more you pay, the flakier the girl will be. She is trying to hurry up and get out of there before you realize what you agreed to! She does not see an opportunity; she sees a mark. An opportunity for her would be to go sell pussy where it sells for a higher price. Of course in most of those cases there is higher overhead as well. Neither do we see an opportunity for cheaper pussy. We simply go where it costs less.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200296]

First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it.
[/QUOTE]Really? And the immigration officials were concerned about his indulging in a less than completely illegal activity? I would think with all of Colombia's problems, a tourist busting a nut would not constitute a problem worth deporting him. You don't think drug trafficking would be a bigger concern? That is actually illegal, directly involves the participation of and consumption by foreigners. Not to mention it does involve violent and highly organized crime that has seriously destabilized the country in the past. You are sure the immigration officers weren't more concerned about that? I understand Colombia's lenient laws on personal consumption have made it quite a destination for drug tourism. I keep reading about foreigners being sent to prison for drug related charges, but not much about tourists getting in any kind of trouble involving P4P activities.

I'm very confused about what a foreigner who "can't pass for Colombian" could be doing or saying to get sent back on a plane or meet with disapproval. The reason for my confusion is Poblado is just about overrun with foreigners, including backpackers, stoners, missionaries, eco-tourists, adventure travelers, and yes sex tourists. Even in Centro, Plaza Botero and the surrounding area including Veracruz is full of tour groups. My point is no one has to appear Colombian to blend in. So help me understand what is it that anyone is doing to be denied entry to the country or more to the point I suppose, to get quoted higher than normal prices.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2200304]All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.

Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.

Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.

Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.

Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.

Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2200464]Really? And the immigration officials were concerned about his indulging in a less than completely illegal activity? I would think with all of Colombia's problems, a tourist busting a nut would not constitute a problem worth deporting him. You don't think drug trafficking would be a bigger concern? That is actually illegal, directly involves the participation of and consumption by foreigners. Not to mention it does involve violent and highly organized crime that has seriously destabilized the country in the past. You are sure the immigration officers weren't more concerned about that? I understand Colombia's lenient laws on personal consumption have made it quite a destination for drug tourism. I keep reading about foreigners being sent to prison for drug related charges, but not much about tourists getting in any kind of trouble involving P4P activities.[/QUOTE]It definitely happened to my friend and then the first time I went to Mde my Airbnb host said the exact same thing to me.

The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women. I would say if you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day he can give you problems just for the heck of it. Considering any legal issues can be handled with a bribe things aren't so straight all the time.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200296]First off on the whole sex tourism thing I know of people that have been put back on the plane in Medellin because they forgot the address of the hotel they were staying at and they asked my friend if he's here for see tourism he denied it and they still sent him back so that's why I said they don't welcome it. There is also big sign somewhere in the airport that says something like no sex tourism or something along those lines. I have many Colombian friends with families in law out here that tell me the same thing.[/QUOTE]That sign in the airport (not sure it's still there since they are doing a lot of construction in the airport) is about minors. Almost everyone I come in contact with in Medellin has treated me very well. There have been a couple of old ladies at or near apartment buildings where I have stayed that didn't like the fact I was with young chicas. Everyone else I have come in contact with has treated me very well. I respect the local people and never act like I am entitled to something just because I am from the US.

Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:

1. Colombian women, more precisely paisas are ALL attention WG (just look at facebook of even young non-pros / WG in waiting).

2. The police are all corrupt, the mentality of the average Colombian is all about greed and jealousy and fucking the rich gringo, they lie all of the time, they are opportunists, they will steal and cheat the first chance they can.

3. Full of drama.

4. Every chica can be had if the price is right.

5. I could give a shit about bringing a strata 2 girl into any establishment, fuck what any colombian thinks, they are uneasy only because you are bringing to the light what colombian culture is all about, which is they have none, if you think they do it is only a good front.

6. The stereotype of the perfect paisa looking woman is such that if money was not an issue all paisas would have numerous cosmetic surgeries as young as starting at 15, they would turn their natural and beautiful bodies into a grotesque globe of exaggerated butts and breasts and lips, yes they would fuck their bodies up beyond belief and believe they look great.

7. If you allow them they WILL take advantage of you, you will overpay, they think of you as not being generous but rather a weak and stupid gringo, no respect. You must take control, simply act how the Colombian men do, don't give a shit about these bitches, don't care about them, they come and go as easy and often as taking a shit in the toilet.

8. Remember, if they are not with you they are fucking someone else, do NOT listen and believe anything such as promises and words, they are great lies!

9. Etc. , etc. , etc.

IMPORTANT. The above being said, I can't get enough of these paisas, hands-down the sweetest and some of the most passionate lovers in the world!

TTM.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2200506]Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:.[/QUOTE]I completely agree and have no reason to disagree. Salute this post.

When I first read the post, I thought how true these statements were. Until I gave it some thought. These are not "truisms" but more like stereotypes. Many of the statements apply to many third world or impoverished countries.

I had dinner last night with a paisa and we had a lengthy discussion. It lasted 2+ hours and no sex was involved (sadly). We talked too much! She wanted to know about Americans. Just like the truisms mentioned here, she had her own set of truisms about Americans based on her interactions. Drunks, aggressive, egotistical and that Americans feel they are better than the rest of the world. And more. I can easily see how she got this impression since many Americans act exactly like this, especially in Colombia. Of course, it is a stereotype.

I could go on, but suffice to say that I have met many paisas that don't fit any of the truisms mentioned. In general, I have found paisas to be kind and helpful people with strong values. However, in a society where people are often deprived basic necessities, one does what one has to do.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2200506]Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2200453]The more you pay, the flakier the girl will be. She is trying to hurry up and get out of there before you realize what you agreed to! She does not see an opportunity; she sees a mark. An opportunity for her would be to go sell pussy where it sells for a higher price. Of course in most of those cases there is higher overhead as well. Neither do we see an opportunity for cheaper pussy. We simply go where it costs less.[/QUOTE]Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite. I have over paid for pussy before, but it was what I was looking for, and I treat the girls good. In almost every case they come back for more, eventually for much less and in many cases for free. Sometimes its hard to get rid of them. In fact some of the girls come over and hang out and watch TV, cook, clean and fuck. For free. . well I do provide food and drink.

Treating people with respect, especially people living in less than ideal situations, goes a long fucking way. Karma I guess. I had a girl in West Africa, god she was beautiful, she saved my ass on more than one occasion! I could go on but I think you guys get my drift.

Cheers!

That I have come to is this: when you criticize another on the board for the amount of money he spends, you're older, financially limited, and came to Medellin seeking the best bargains possible. This behavior demonstrates what individuals on fixed incomes do. Younger guys spend more because they feel they can recoup money spent or compensate in the bedroom. Why would you travel abroad with limited money, and then want the best deal possible? It's called greed and clearly demonstrates the same behavior of old America. You will never catch me bashing any monger for the amount he spends, that's his money and I'm allergic to pocket watching. There was once one group of people who felt it was perfectly fine to work another group of people and not pay them at all, until laws were changed. The opposition shown on the board clearly details the behavior of the majority. My 2 cents is this, spend a little, enjoy yourself, never worry about the majority, just do you. On another note, there has only been 2 people from the board who has actually introduced me to girls from this board, Wolf and Rodeo 9112. In nearly 6 months of post, all I see is fixed income gringos complaining about how financially stable mongers spend their money. And that's a shame, if you're in Medellin with limited money say that, your rebuttal and posts show that you're stingy and tight with currency anyways, post more girls and less arguments. I read this board to locate new prospects, not the older man's manual on how to swindle young Colombian girls out of Pwussy, to each their own. But please don't be so harsh on fellow mongers with 4 days to find Colombia's best paisa! Pollonegro is out!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2200506]Truisms about my many years and more Colombiana women I can count, my opinions and although hard to say and somewhat painful to read is accurate:[/QUOTE]Usually your posts are accurate and informative. I'm guessing you're just having a rough day, because this one is way off.

My experience is different from the average person on this forum. Most visit for a few days or weeks, do the same things every trip and have a very narrow exposure to the people and the country. No matter how many times you've visited, you are only seeing a small subset of the people.

A few know my story. I went to Medellin early April 2017 for a business opportunity. Unfortunately, it never fully came together. At the end of March 2018, I threw in the towel and returned to the states. My consecutive time in Colombia fell 2 weeks short of a year. During the first 10 months I had a Colombiana roommate. I spent time with a lot of people in non-mongering situations. I visited families and took Spanish classes. I also visited the casas, strip clubs and red light streets, and pulled many girls from Facebook.

During my time I got to really know quite a few people. Most of them don't fit into your "truisms."

[QUOTE]1. Colombian women, more precisely paisas are ALL attention wh*res (just look at facebook of even young non-pros / wh0*res in waiting).

2. The police are all corrupt, the mentality of the average colombian is all about greed and jealousy and fucking the rich gringo, they lie all of the time, they are opportunists, they will steal and cheat the first chance they can.

3. Full of drama.[/QUOTE]1. I met several paisas, 2 that I spent a considerable amount of time with, who were easily embarrassed and hated attention. The 2 I know best take selfies only with other people and don't post any pictures that are the least bit revealing.

2. My interactions with the police were nearly non-existent. None of the encounters were a problem and I didn't personally witness any police behaving inappropriately.

The average paisa is honest and proud. Several times I've had people chase me down because I had paid too much, or forgot my change. Quite a few taxi drivers refused a tip of whatever coins they needed to give me. Usually just a few hundred pesos. People on the metro warned me that my backpack was unzipped, or that my phone was in my back pocket. One day, extremely low blood sugar caused me to pass out on the metro. Someone ran out to keep the train from leaving the station. Someone else ran to get help. Several other people helped me to my feet. A metro employee brought me water and sat with me until I felt good enough to leave the station.

3. Paisa women are as full of drama as US women. Some are, some aren't.

[QUOTE]4. Every chica can be had if the price is right.[/QUOTE]This is flat out wrong. Every chica working in a casa? Yes. Obviously. Every chica? Not even close. I spent 10 months living with a successful webcam model. She receives offers nearly every day. The highest I've seen was $10 k USD, plus airfare and all expenses. The offers make her angry. It's possible she might have sex with you. Catch her in the right mood, work some magic and who knows. However, if you try to give her money, you're going to get hurt.

I did meet several women, in normal situations who let me know they were available. Others offered up friends, if I was interested. But there were several who were quite vocal about what they thought about being paid for sex.

[QUOTE]5. I could give a shit about bringing a strata 2 girl into any establishment, fuck what any colombian thinks, they are uneasy only because you are bringing to the light what colombian culture is all about, which is they have none, if you think they do it is only a good front.[/QUOTE]There's some truth here. The class system is ingrained in the Colombian culture the same way that racism is ingrained in US culture. However, the discomfort has little to do with economic class. Mostly it's about lack of class. When 2 old gringos are sitting in a nice restaurant, talking loudly about the girls they fucked that day, while groping their dates, who are dressed like they're next on stage at Conejitas, it makes the families around them uncomfortable. When 2 old gringos are sitting with 2 appropriately dressed young women, having a normal discussion, nobody gives them a second look.

I've been in some of the best restaurants in Medellin, accompanied by 1 to 3 women at least 30 years younger than me. Nobody gave us a second look.

As for culture, Colombia has a very rich culture. It's almost impossible to avoid. If all your time is spent in taxis, casas and strip clubs you might miss it. Unless you happen to pass through Plaza Botero. For a real treat spend December with a Colombian family. To really get the full effect of the culture, you need to speak the language.

[QUOTE]6. The stereotype of the perfect paisa looking woman is such that if money was not an issue all paisas would have numerous cosmetic surgeries as young as starting at 15, they would turn their natural and beautiful bodies into a grotesque globe of exaggerated butts and breasts and lips, yes they would fuck their bodies up beyond belief and believe they look great.[/QUOTE]True, for some. Women around the world obsess about their bodies. I've met at least as many women who are completely against plastic surgery. I know many women who can easily afford any procedure from the best surgeons, yet they are completely natural.

[QUOTE]7. If you allow them they WILL take advantage of you, you will overpay, they think of you as not being generous but rather a weak and stupid gringo, no respect. You must take control, simply act how the colombian men do, don't give a shit about these bitches, don't care about them, they come and go as easy and often as taking a shit in the toilet.[/QUOTE]If you are dealing strictly with prepagos, this is mostly true. Not entirely. One Colombian couple comes to mind. She's what might be referred to as a semi pro. She's been together with her novio for several years and he treats her like a queen. I've personally been in many situations where a Colombiana was in a position to take advantage of me. A few did. The majority didn't.

[QUOTE]8. Remember, if they are not with you they are fucking someone else, do NOT listen and believe anything such as promises and words, they are great lies![/QUOTE]If you are paying them to fuck you, what they are doing when they aren't fucking you is not your concern. If you're worried about it, you don't understand the concept of pay for play sex. Why would you ask a prostitute to make promises to you?

[QUOTE]9. Etc. , etc. , etc.

IMPORTANT. The above being said, I can't get enough of these paisas, hands-down the sweetest and some of the most passionate lovers in the world!

TTM.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing that when you first went to Colombia you fell for a prepago, believed that she was madly in love with you, sent her a lot of money and then found out you were just being played. It happens a lot. It's an expensive lesson. I learned it from a US girl many years ago.

However, judging all of Colombia based on your interactions with the prostitutes isn't a fair assessment. Not even every prepago fits your list.

[QUOTE=TyDown;2200595]Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite. I have over paid for pussy before, but it was what I was looking for, and I treat the girls good. In almost every case they come back for more, eventually for much less and in many cases for free. Sometimes its hard to get rid of them. In fact some of the girls come over and hang out and watch TV, cook, clean and fuck. For free. . well I do provide food and drink.

Treating people with respect, especially people living in less than ideal situations, goes a long fucking way. Karma I guess. I had a girl in West Africa, god she was beautiful, she saved my ass on more than one occasion! I could go on but I think you guys get my drift.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I am all for treating people and respect and I believe in karma too but you bet that if they are doing everything you say and not asking for more then food and drinks that they are making an attempt to set you up for a long term play down the road. Just wait and see and be honest with yourself.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200587]I could go on, but suffice to say that I have met many paisas that don't fit any of the truisms mentioned. In general, I have found paisas to be kind and helpful people with strong values. However, in a society where people are often deprived basic necessities, one does what one has to do.[/QUOTE]Suffice it to say, the less hookers that you deal with, the more apparent that these stereotypes do not hold for normal people. I do not know any Colombians that fit that bill because my hooker interactions there are limited to short times in a brothel somewhere.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2200616]Suffice it to say, the less hookers that you deal with, the more apparent that these stereotypes do not hold for normal people. I do not know any Colombians that fit that bill because my hooker interactions there are limited to short times in a brothel somewhere.[/QUOTE]Probably so.

SA, which I have come to use exclusively, is mostly populated by "regular" chicas looking to supplement something. They are not hardcore for the most part. And for the most part, they do not fit the traits mentioned. Theses traits apply to the hardcore chicas. I shy away from them, hence my experience is different.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200490]The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women.[/QUOTE]LOL. Man get out of here with this clown shit. You seriously think a Colombian is worried about a foreigner coming to pay chicks they have been fucking their whole lives for free? Especially when half the money you are giving her is probably going to him anyway. They may be exotic and hot shit to you, but to them they are just regular old broads.

Reminds me of my favorite show 90 Day Fiance when dude from Arizona imported a chick from the Philippines. He thought she was such hot shit that he insisted on her going to a modeling agency. She wanted nothing of it, but he insisted. Man they laughed that chick up out of there. They thought she was coming to apply to be the janitor or something.

Gringos do have a knack for going to other countries and I guess zeroing in on one trait and thinking they have found the crown jewel. When they go to Asia they zero in on thin. They don't want tits, ass, hips. As long as she is thin as a rail is all that matters. When they go to African countries they zero in on Black. When they go to Colombia what do they zero in on? Fake tits maybe? It leaves people from those places full of confusion. He came here throwing around all his money to get his hands on THAT! SMDH.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2200304]All the posts I see about gringo prices are from first time visitors who assume they are getting overcharged for everything.

Most bars, restaurants and taxis are going to charge you the normal price. You might get quoted a higher rate for the taxi from Rionegro to Medellin, but if you look at the sign with the posted rates, you can easily counter with the correct price.

Most casas have set prices. I've sat in several and watched the GTGs (Google Translate Gringos) pay the same price as the locals. For most you pay the manager for the time you want before you go to the room. At New Life you pay at the cashier window after you're done. At Lindas Chicas you pay the girl after the deed then go pay Nancy for the room and any drinks. At Energy you pay the lady at the desk after you finish.

Elsewhere girls are going to ask for however much they think they can get. This varies depending on how badly they need the money, how attractive they find you and how they currently perceive themselves. There's probably 40 other factors involved in the decision process.

Knowing what you are willing to pay should be all that matters to you.

Unless you're walking down the street screaming "quiero putas", Colombians are happy to see you. If you behave like a normal person they couldn't care less that you're paying for sex. Unless you're arguing price in public, they don't care whether you are paying too much or too little.

How well you get along with Colombians depends on how well you treat Colombians. Treat them respect, show you respect their country, don't try to tell them how much better your country is, don't be insulting and you'll find Colombians to be some of the friendliest people in the world.

Here's a recent example. Two weeks ago a semi-pro friend messaged me about a gringo she had met. She was really enjoying his company and asked me to talk to him, because he wanted to learn some things about Medellin. Before I got a chance, she told me not to bother. The guy had made a joke about some waitress or cashier that she found disrespectful. One tasteless joke and he goes from being her "Principe azul" to being a "Bobo."

Another girl I know went from being firm on 250 k then down to 200 k, 150 k, then whatever I wanted to pay, but at least 60 k plus taxi. When she was bored she once came over and spent 3 hours for 30 k, 20 for the taxi and 10 for some weed. I've talked with other mongers who complained that she wouldn't budge off the 250.

Paying a few dollars extra isn't going to earn you any respect. It's just going to get you a lot of people with their hands out looking to get some of the money you're handing out.

To close, decide what you want to pay, then go from there. Whether you're paying the going rate, or 5 times the going rate doesn't matter. It won't affect the quality of the sessions, it won't change how much people like or respect you and it won't change the way people treat you. How you treat the people is more important than how much you pay them.[/QUOTE]Ok, ignore a lot of the BS out there lately, and read this Post.

MDE 7/3-7/9/18.

TRANSPORTATION: UA IAH to MDE thru PTY uneventful. 30 min on tarmac in PTY coming back for no apparent reason. Taxis and Uber's in town extremely cheap. Finally, on MDE trip #4, I used the Metro. Very easy, extremely cheap and very fast. 2400 COP one way,4800 COP for a round trip. We simply held up one or 2 fingers & never had a problem. We were going to take the Metro up to Madera Station then UBER to the airport but the Hotel staff convinced us to get a private car so we did for 70 k COP (My friends driver charged us 75 k COP from the airport to the Hotel Egina coming in). On the way to the airport, our car was pulled over at a routine checkpoint by the police. We had to get out, they checked our passports & luggage, and asked the driver for all kinds or paperwork & licenses and whatnot. He told us after we were back on our way that they were searching for UBER drivers. He also said when they catch an Uber driver, the passengers have to catch a cab, the car is impounded & there is a fine to be paid. I don't know who pays the fine, driver, passengers or both but it sucks either way if our driver was telling the truth about Uber being illegal in CO.

Guatape / Peñol. We took the Metro from Estadio to Niquía Station then an Uber to Guatape for 150 k COP. Caught the bus back for 14 k COP per person the the the Metro back to Estadio. If we had known which station to get off of the Metro, we could have round tripped to Guatape for 32,800 COP each, a little over $11.

HOTEL: Hotel Egina on C47 & La Setenta (70) was recommended by a friend. I recommend not staying there. They told us we would have to pay 50 k COP for every Chica after the first one. We were ready to leave & fight with booking punto com & our CC company's for a refund as the Hotel refused to give us the refund. We had a POW-wow with the Hotel Manager, Juan T. Wed am & assured him of our discretion, no noise, no drogas, no fiestas & no loud music. He said he would make an exception for us if we left a good review on Booking punto com, which we will. The rooms were nice enough, I think I got lucky & had the penthouse suite on the 8th floor. My friend was also on the 8th floor & we had it to ourselves as I didn't see another guest in the other 2 or 3 rooms the entire trip. I think they wanted us separated from the rest of the guests! Haha. No in-room safe so when we went to Guatape I put my passport, cash & ccs in the hotel safe Sat am before we left. They told me I could only access it during office hours. What they failed to tell me was the office and was closed on Sun so I would not be able to retrieve my stuff until 6 am Monday when Juan T. Got back to work. I had to borrow Chica $ from my friend which I hate doing. If I had a flight on Sunday, I'the have been f-ed. I bitched and complained (never raising my voice) so much that they called the mgr and he cane by and opened the safe about noon or so. Anyway, very nice hotel, very nice rooms, I would have to say it is not Chica friendly tho. Also the steam sauna was awesome!!

Food: We had breakfast at the hotel each morning as it was included in our room rate. We mostly at on La Setenta for lunch and dinner at Ay Que Rico Pollo which was very good and reasonably priced. We ate at a restaurant on the town square across from the church in Guatape. Dinner one night at La Pampa Parrilla Argentina in Laureles & lunch at La Coneja in Sabaneta. Both very good but I will not make an excursion just to eat there next trip.

CHICAS: Once against Fay-Boo ruled. I also continued to have great success with Mileroticos & this trip even PhotoPrepagos. I posted links to the 2 bad apples that I had, one from ME & 1 had ads on both. Sessioned with Has the first night. A lot of fun, great session, she's up for just about anything, but she sure does hide that big ole booty when she takes a selfie from above. 3 others asked not to give out their intel & refused to have their pics taken showing their face. Katherine Lizeth Garcia wanted 300 k COP + Taxi money so I declined. She is in the game, hotter than a $2 pistol & not shy about asking for 300 k. I politely turned her down. Plenty out there for ½ that much. I had a really tough time getting anyone to respond Sunday. And as usual, it is very difficult to get anyone up & ready before noon. Hit New Life a couple of times & the sessions were barely above average but you can't beat the price! We strolled behind Iglesia VeraCruz a couple of different times & yes we lived to tell about it. We were in the ventricle of the beast & didn't have by trouble whatsoever. There were 2 or 3 little spinner types that I liked, although one looked very [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. I'm still leary about going into a short term hotel with one of the SWs.

TOURIST STUFF: Hit Guatape and Penol for the first time. Took una lancha (100 k COP) to Pablo's lake house and took the tour ($10 k COP / person). It was actually pretty cool if you have never been there. Every structure had hole knocked out (or into) the walls. Obviously people looking for hidden cash. The views are incredible. Went to Penol but didn't climb the rock due to my f-ed up knees. Again, spectacular views of the lakes & water surrounding the Monolith.

Pablo tour – We hired an Uber driver to take us to Pablo's safe house where he was killed, and it is now a Spanish Speaking School. The house / rooftop where he was shot is still walled off with graffiti all over it. Then we went to the Gravesite & amazingly enough, people are still leaving flowers on his grave. We then had to hire a cab to take us to La Catedral, which if you remember from my Dec MDE report, is a rest home for the elderly of MDE run by the city Govt. Again, amazing views of the city and the entire valley from his 'Prison'.

Like I keep telling my friends, each trip is better than the last & I'm already planning my next trip!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200687]MDE 7/3-7/9/1

Pablo tour We hired an Uber driver to take us to Pablo's safe house where he was killed, and it is now a Spanish Speaking School. The house / rooftop where he was shot is still walled off with graffiti all over it. Then we went to the Gravesite & amazingly enough, people are still leaving flowers on his grave. We then had to hire a cab to take us to La Catedral, which if you remember from my Dec MDE report, is a rest home for the elderly of MDE run by the city Govt. Again, amazing views of the city and the entire valley from his 'Prison'.

Like I keep telling my friends, each trip is better than the last & I'm already planning my next trip!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I went there also and a Pablo look-alike greeted us. It was quite eerie. He asked for something like 100.000 COP for admission!! Per person! It was no misunderstanding. The person I was with is Colombian and spoke fluent Spanish. Fortunately, Uber hadn't left yet and we got back in the car. Like, that was on the bottom of my list anyhow of things to do. It just so happened that it was on the way back from where we were coming from.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200698]I went there also and a Pablo look-alike greeted us. It was quite eerie. He asked for something like 100.000 COP for admission!! Per person! It was no misunderstanding. The person I was with is Colombian and spoke fluent Spanish. Fortunately, Uber hadn't left yet and we got back in the car. Like, that was on the bottom of my list anyhow of things to do. It just so happened that it was on the way back from where we were coming from.[/QUOTE]That's pretty funny! There is always one like that at every historical tourist attraction. Are you talking about the cathedral the safe house or the graveyard. I have been to all three twice and have not seen anybody like that. Still pretty funny, I would not of paid him either.

EL Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200687]We strolled behind Iglesia VeraCruz a couple of different times & yes we lived to tell about it. We were in the ventricle of the beast & didn't have by trouble whatsoever. There were 2 or 3 little spinner types that I liked, although one looked very ...... I'm still leary about going into a short term hotel with one of the SWs.[/QUOTE]I've been up the stairs with some of those independents at VeraCruz & Raudal about a dozen times, nothing to worry about. Just check ID if they look young.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200628]Probably so.

SA, which I have come to use exclusively, is mostly populated by "regular" chicas looking to supplement something. They are not hardcore for the most part. And for the most part, they do not fit the traits mentioned. Theses traits apply to the hardcore chicas. I shy away from them, hence my experience is different.[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2200747]Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?[/QUOTE]Sugar Daddy website, [URL]www.seekingarrangements.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2200747]Excuse my ignorance but could you please let me know what "SA" stands for?[/QUOTE]It stands for "seekingarrangement".

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2200490]It definitely happened to my friend and then the first time I went to Mde my Airbnb host said the exact same thing to me.

The officers aren't dumb and if you're a Colombian living in the country I can totally see some bitterness being involved in how foreigners are coming in with $$ to take their women. I would say if you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day he can give you problems just for the heck of it. Considering any legal issues can be handled with a bribe things aren't so straight all the time.[/QUOTE]You can see some bitterness because you're trying to put US reactions on Colombians. But Colombians don't think that way. Except in Poblado, mostly around Parque Lleras, there simply aren't enough gringos in Medellin to be noticed. And the Colombians living around Parque Lleras aren't worried that some old, fat gringo is going to lure their estrato 6 wife away from them.

My experience was that I got nothing but polite and friendly from everyone. In a year of walking in all types of areas maybe 5 or 6 times someone gave me a sour look.

If you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day. I suppose so. I never ran into the wrong officer. Some smiled, some waved, only 1 ever hindered me. That was for about 15 seconds while he told me I couldn't drink beer in the park.

If your Airbnb host is telling you that they don't allow sex tourism, you didn't do your homework before renting.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200715]That's pretty funny! There is always one like that at every historical tourist attraction. Are you talking about the cathedral the safe house or the graveyard. I have been to all three twice and have not seen anybody like that. Still pretty funny, I would not of paid him either.

EL Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure it was the graveyard. I didn't know there was more than one "attraction. " I kind of think it's disgusting that people / the city are profiting from a notorious criminal and murderer.

[QUOTE=HoLover1;2200760]It stands for "seekingarrangement".[/QUOTE]You can google it and you'll get the website in the results.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200687]We were going to take the Metro up to Madera Station then UBER to the airport but the Hotel staff convinced us to get a private car so we did for 70 k COP (My friends driver charged us 75 k COP from the airport to the Hotel Egina coming in). [/QUOTE]I have always said that someone's "friend" always charges more. My buddy was messing with a chick in Philippines and her dad was a taxi driver and tried to take him to the airport for $30 more than it would normally cost.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200687]She is in the game, hotter than a $2 pistol[/QUOTE]LOL.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2200834]I'm pretty sure it was the graveyard. I didn't know there was more than one "attraction. " I kind of think it's disgusting that people / the city are profiting from a notorious criminal and murderer.[/QUOTE]With the Netflix hit series 'Narcos' came the renewed interest in all things Pablo. Unfortunately for the MDE, the city & Colombia will forever be linked to Pablo & the cocaine trafficking. The locals don't like it & even the taxistas & UBER drivers frown when we ask them to take us to Pablo's_ Some people still remember and or have forgiven his sins as there were flowers on his grave last Sunday.

El Mechanico.

Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!!

Lucky guy. I am not a frequent visitor to Lleras, despite the fact that I travel to MDE once a month. But not longer ago I was "pulled over" (I was actually on foot) by the cops at about 5 in the afternoon. I was with a working girl who is also a friend. And her mom. And the cops hassled all of us big time. The guy kept saying "respect the park. " All we did was have a late lunch and then wait for her mom to finish work so they could go back to their barrio. Cops seems to be getting worse in MDE. At least in some areas.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2200774]

If you run into the wrong officer on the wrong day. I suppose so. I never ran into the wrong officer. Some smiled, some waved, only 1 ever hindered me. That was for about 15 seconds while he told me I couldn't drink beer in the park.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2200956]Lucky guy. I am not a frequent visitor to Lleras, despite the fact that I travel to MDE once a month. But not longer ago I was "pulled over" (I was actually on foot) by the cops at about 5 in the afternoon. I was with a working girl who is also a friend. And her mom. And the cops hassled all of us big time. The guy kept saying "respect the park. " All we did was have a late lunch and then wait for her mom to finish work so they could go back to their barrio. Cops seems to be getting worse in MDE. At least in some areas.[/QUOTE]Last time was in late March. From mid July last year until late January this year I was in or through Parque Lleras at least 10 times a week. Almost every night plus frequent daytime visits. The beer incident was very close to Christmas. A buddy and I bought beers and sat down in the park to people watch. Cop came over and said we couldn't drink in the park, so we crossed the street and sat down on Calle 38, 30 feet away.

I don't know why I was never hassled. Especially since I spent so much time in places where gringos don't go. Must be my after shave.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200927]Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!![/QUOTE]I posted a question about that issue in the "Letters to the Editor" forum. Not surprisingly, the folks who run ISG couldn't even take a second to answer my question. Meanwhile, those same folks have the nerve to say in the paragraph near the top of this website:

"Those same freedom-loving individuals who are from the US and affected by this might also consider talking to your local Representatives and Senators and letting them know you're pissed about the state of interference in your life these days."

So this website can't be bothered to answer a simple little question directed to them, while meanwhile, I'm supposed to stick my neck out and contact my legislators on behalf of ISG? Yeah, that's not happening. In life, one hand washes the other.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2199208]You really do not get it, not all people want and value things as you do.

Not all mongers want the cheapest hooker with the highest dick mileage. Honestly, you are wasting your money. Who the fuck wants to spend his vacation in a dangerous ghetto / shithole fucking ratchet working girls?[/QUOTE]The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. [URL]http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2201017]The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. [URL]http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9[/URL].[/QUOTE]And 90% of the men treat it as a prostitution site LOL.

Good fortune or maybe it was because who you were with. I have noticed that 2 or more gringos have not gotten hassled. My problem came when I was with the chica and her mom. And the only other time anyone said anything to me was when I was walking around Lleras alone. The assumption must have been that I was looking for putas, which I was actually not (I would likely never pull a chica from Lleras).

That said, I have never been stopped by policy anywhere else. And I have frequented Popular, Aranjuez, Manrique, and Laureles. Even when a taxi has been pulled over (twice), they focused on the girls in the car and left me alone.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2200978]Last time was in late March. From mid July last year until late January this year I was in or through Parque Lleras at least 10 times a week. Almost every night plus frequent daytime visits. The beer incident was very close to Christmas. A buddy and I bought beers and sat down in the park to people watch. Cop came over and said we couldn't drink in the park, so we crossed the street and sat down on Calle 38, 30 feet away.

I don't know why I was never hassled. Especially since I spent so much time in places where gringos don't go. Must be my after shave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2201017]The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. [URL]http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9[/URL].[/QUOTE]But that 10% still might be a large number, I have met some really smoking hot SB's off that site (and WhatsYourPrice & SecretBenefits).

Been on vacations with some of them.

Some of my favs:

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2201042]Good fortune or maybe it was because who you were with. I have noticed that 2 or more gringos have not gotten hassled. My problem came when I was with the chica and her mom. And the only other time anyone said anything to me was when I was walking around Lleras alone. The assumption must have been that I was looking for putas, which I was actually not (I would likely never pull a chica from Lleras).

That said, I have never been stopped by policy anywhere else. And I have frequented Popular, Aranjuez, Manrique, and Laureles. Even when a taxi has been pulled over (twice), they focused on the girls in the car and left me alone.[/QUOTE]That's why I hang in Centro. The cops have much bigger fish to fry there. LOL.

The closest I have gotten to Colombian police in 4 trips was when our cab got stopped at a check point around 1 am coming back from FaseII. I was thinking "uh-oh. " he talked to the cabbie, asked him who was in the back, he said "foreigners" and they waved us on.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2201047]But that 10% still might be a large number, I have met some really smoking hot SB's off that site (and WhatsYourPrice & SecretBenefits).

Been on vacations with some of them.[/QUOTE]I'm not debating whether the 10% is a large number. I'm just pointing out that with the ratio of men to women on the site, the chicks from SA are no less used than any other chicks that us mongers are fucking for money.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2201017]The owner of SA says that the site consists of 90% men and only 10% women. [URL]http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhiToD3SZ8Gorso6r9[/URL].[/QUOTE]Intuitively, that seems way out of proportion. I heard somewhere else that women outnumber men. The link given doesn't work for me. I did a search, and found this, though it's from 2013:

"Female to Male Ratio misleading".

4. 98/5 See More.

I am surprised to see the Men to Women ratio as almost 1:1, but I think that is very very misleading.

(1) Many of its male users are gay (approx. 20% of the website traffic). This may explain why even though the website has a 1 to 1 male to female ratio, as a hetero-sexual sugar daddy, I am enjoying a higher female to male ratio.

(2) Men can also sign up as Sugar Babies. And many of the sugar babies are in fact men seeking Sugar Mommies.

So while the number of men and women using the website may seem equal, the sugar daddy in search of a female sugar baby is still likely enjoying the much higher female to male ratio.

The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2201163]Intuitively, that seems way out of proportion. I heard somewhere else that women outnumber men. The link given doesn't work for me. I did a search, and found this, though it's from 2013:

"Female to Male Ratio misleading".

4. 98/5 See More.

I am surprised to see the Men to Women ratio as almost 1:1, but I think that is very very misleading.

(1) Many of its male users are gay (approx. 20% of the website traffic). This may explain why even though the website has a 1 to 1 male to female ratio, as a hetero-sexual sugar daddy, I am enjoying a higher female to male ratio.

(2) Men can also sign up as Sugar Babies. And many of the sugar babies are in fact men seeking Sugar Mommies.

So while the number of men and women using the website may seem equal, the sugar daddy in search of a female sugar baby is still likely enjoying the much higher female to male ratio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2201165]The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.[/QUOTE]Do the Colombian women on this site have USD expectations? This site is great to find non pros when using it in the states but after Jooks reports I will plan on trying it for my next trip to Mde.

Great report man. You went to all the spots I go to in centro. You are definitely right about the quality of service. Paying more doesn't mean better quality. I love looking for my diamonds in the rough in el centro for sure.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.

A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2201101]I'm not debating whether the 10% is a large number. I'm just pointing out that with the ratio of men to women on the site, the chicks from SA are no less used than any other chicks that us mongers are fucking for money.[/QUOTE]I will answer this over in the Medellin Chit Chat thread.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2201165]The cost also keeps the number of men down. I joined for a month at one time. I think at that time a one month subscription was around $40 (this was a year ago). Now one month is closer to $90. So unless you are going to seriously use it, most guys are probably not going to pay that price just to screw around.[/QUOTE]Numbers are definitely misleading. Only a small number of the men on the site, on any site, ever pay. Which means they can't set up any meetings. A certain number of the female accounts are still accounts used by the website to convince you to pay a subscription. Other female accounts are scam accounts, people trying to get you to visit another website or do something other than set up a date.

Then there are the women who stopped checking the site after days. Any dating or arrangement site has the same issues.

IslandMonger, great report man!

About La Cueva, I just got back from a couple of weeks at the Mansion:

One night, 5 guys and 2 girls.

Next night, 6 guys and 20 girls.

Night after that, 8 guys and 7 girls.

Next night again, 2 guys and 18 girls.

That is just how it goes there. Luck of the Draw!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2201171]Do the Colombian women on this site have USD expectations? This site is great to find non pros when using it in the states but after Jooks reports I will plan on trying it for my next trip to Mde.[/QUOTE]I did a few dates off SA my 1st trip to MED. I'd say they expect more $ since they deal with to them are rich gringos mostly. I set up 2 TLN (all night) dates for 300 k ea.

Didn't use it on my next trips though, one date was cool and cute, the other had old photos and was a crazy party girl, wanted me to go to a after hours party at a house in the hills after we hit some bars, I declined. Might have been fun or I might have ended up in a shallow ditch.

I prefer the strip clubs where you can see the girl in the flesh and talk to her some 1st and gauge her attitude and sexiness in person. The make a TLN date after a test drive at the club to make sure she is fun in bed too.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200687]HOTEL: Hotel Egina on C47 & La Setenta (70) was recommended by a friend. I recommend not staying there. They told us we would have to pay 50 k COP for every Chica after the first one. We were ready to leave & fight with booking punto com & our CC company's for a refund as the Hotel refused to give us the refund. We had a POW-wow with the Hotel Manager, Juan T. Wed am & assured him of our discretion, no noise, no drogas, no fiestas & no loud music. He said he would make an exception for us if we left a good review on Booking punto com, which we will. The rooms were nice enough, I think I got lucky & had the penthouse suite on the 8th floor. My friend was also on the 8th floor & we had it to ourselves as I didn't see another guest in the other 2 or 3 rooms the entire trip. I think they wanted us separated from the rest of the guests! Haha. No in-room safe so when we went to Guatape I put my passport, cash & ccs in the hotel safe Sat am before we left. They told me I could only access it during office hours. What they failed to tell me was the office and was closed on Sun so I would not be able to retrieve my stuff until 6 am Monday when Juan T. Got back to work. I had to borrow Chica $ from my friend which I hate doing. If I had a flight on Sunday, I'the have been f-ed. I bitched and complained (never raising my voice) so much that they called the mgr and he cane by and opened the safe about noon or so. Anyway, very nice hotel, very nice rooms, I would have to say it is not Chica friendly tho. Also the steam sauna was awesome!![/QUOTE]Egina is my hotel of choice. I have stayed there 6 or 7 times. I always get the suite or junior suite. The standard room is as big as a bathroom.

They always copy my visitor's ID and let the up. They usually call me to come down when one shows up. I had never been charged or even heard of a 50 k fee. But 2 weeks ago, I heard from a friend that a friend of his was told of the fee at check-in. So I emailed the hotel company and was told that it's a long-standing policy. I then called the hotel itself, and spoke to one of the front desk staff and then a guy who could have been a manager. He told me that it is a company policy but they "waive it for me" as long as a chica doesn't stay overnight and / or eat breakfast. My friend has stayed there a few times and he has never heard of the fee either, so it must not only be waving it for me.

I would call the hotel chica tolerant, not chica friendly. I like the area. Relatively safe, good restaurants, supermarket within walking distance. Jumbo mall a couple blocks away.

Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=TCXPuKVmvGg[/URL]

Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?

Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?

[QUOTE=OldTrack;2201789]Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=TCXPuKVmvGg[/URL][/QUOTE]You need to check the link you posted, it's of flowing water.

Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.

Update info.

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219s[/URL]

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2200927]With the Netflix hit series 'Narcos' came the renewed interest in all things Pablo. Unfortunately for the MDE, the city & Colombia will forever be linked to Pablo & the cocaine trafficking. The locals don't like it & even the taxistas & UBER drivers frown when we ask them to take us to Pablo's_ Some people still remember and or have forgiven his sins as there were flowers on his grave last Sunday.

El Mechanico.

Am I the only one who has trouble uploading fotos to this website? Freaking ridicolous!![/QUOTE]I was at Pablo's grave Saturday and there were fresh flowers there then.

[QUOTE=OldTrack;2201873]Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.

Update info.

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219s[/URL][/QUOTE]Certainly Centrally located, that's right next to Parque Bolivar and the big brick church, the Catedral Basílica Metropolitana de Medellíand.

The 16th floor of Edifico Apabi at Calle 56 #47-14 it looks to be.

[QUOTE=OldTrack;2201873]Video of Huge penthouse / condo / Apartment for guys interested in staying in downtown central Medellin close to everything, the guy is renting the whole place or Rooms.

Update info.

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=9aKZNJmAiEM&t=219s[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?

TTM.

If you are in Medellin and need service, party goods, chicas PM me for his number. He will treat you well and no BS.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2202070]Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?

TTM.[/QUOTE]He says in the vid that he will rent rooms if the place isn't rented out, he says rates "vary" on time of year and length of stay.

Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?

I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2202354]Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?

I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.[/QUOTE]Go upstairs after you get out of screening & before you exit. There is a little tienda / kiosk / store you can get a SIM card & data from. It is across from the 3 ATMs. They will install & test the number for you. Very cheap but your phone must be unlocked.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2202354]Anyone have an idea how the SIM card plans work in Medellin? Any suggestions where to buy? Are they monthly plans or prepaid plans and which is better service and cheaper?

I tried the search feature but nothing came up. Sorry guys.[/QUOTE]Buy a Medellin sim card through tigo, cheapest company, spend $50 k, have data & voice for a month. Pollonegro is out!

It's a terrific looking property in a prime location. I would love to have one just like it, but about half the size. It also looks like a place where you will meet many new people.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2202070]Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?

TTM.[/QUOTE]

The red headed guys seemed quite amped up, maybe unnaturally so.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2202070]Damn any of us who have spent any time in Medellin knows exactly where this is located. Does he rent rooms or only the whole penthouse? Any ideas as to rates?

TTM.[/QUOTE]

To sort of continue with Part 1.

I spent nearly 3 weeks in Medellin. One of the reasons for my trip was to investigate retirement along with a much-needed vacation. Retirement seems so do-able. Medellin is precisely the place I am looking for to spend my, uh, best years. It's got most everything I look for. FYI, I'm 66, in good health and good physical condition.

To reiterate what I said in my first report, I do not vacation to monger, or at least that's not the major priority. No judgment of anyone else, to each his own. Those interested primarily in casas and such probably won't relate much to this writing. I am not the type that wants or needs a different woman every day or multiple times a day. I prefer to find one or two or so women to spend time with and develop some sort of connection. I used Seeking Arrangements almost exclusively to find the women I was looking for. It turned out to be a good strategy for me.

Since my experience was only with SA with one exception, that is only what I will discuss. The majority of women on SA are seeking more than money and, in many circumstances, just travel or want an emotional connection. For the most part, they were young and gorgeous. They did not want to be treated like a sex object. Treating everyone with respect went a long way, something true in life in general.

I ended up meeting with about 8 women. The relations were not always sexual, and that was fine. There are many women that only look for platonic or use it like [URL]match.com[/URL]. The non-sexual meets and several of the sexual ones cost nothing but coffee or whatever plus a taxi. One of my favorite finds was meeting up with a bright 18-year old college student and discussing life, politics, etc. Over a 3-hour lunch. I like to immerse myself in the culture when I travel. Traveling alone forces me to do just that because I have no one to talk to except the locals, or paisas in this case. I also got to practice my basic Spanish, and, in the end, I was a lot more comfortable speaking the language.

But this board is about sex and that's the dirt most of you want. SA women may be expensive or more expensive, but for me, it's worth the cost. You get amateurs that are only doing what they need to do to pay their tuition, rent or simply survive. And they are happy to do so if treated well. Many look for a connection and would never consider themselves prostitutes. And they're not, depending on your definition.

It got to a point where I got enough practice and intuition under my belt and, coupled with a little game, I was turning away women towards the end of my trip. That was tough! In the beginning of my stay, I set up multiple meets at the same time knowing that many would cancel. Sometimes they all cancelled. That is typical SA. But in the end, my odds improved greatly.

I stayed with several women for multiple hours and some for multiple days. They were mostly students and hotter than I could ever expect to be with in the US, especially for such a ridiculously low price. Yes, I know price is comparable and my comparison was to US prices.

For those interested in this type of relationship, I suggest you start getting accustomed to SA in Colombia before you get there. Granted, a monthly membership is nearly $90, but that probably helps keep the riff raff away and is worth the experience. It doesn't make sense to try to meet women online before you get there though. Plans change quickly. I also made a mistake of hooking up with a Cali woman before I got there. Even though she paid her own way to Medellin and didn't cost me much, it didn't turn out well. I suggest sticking to Medellin and don't be tempted to pay for a woman from Cali or wherever to visit based on chats and photos. There're enough choices to last a lifetime in Medellin.

As for photos, follow the golden rule. The worst looking photo online is probably representative. And try to get her to take a selfie so you have a better chance of seeing what she looks like currently.

Other stuff.

For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket.

Parque Lleras at night completely grossed me out. It's full of drunken Americans, ear-deafening reggaetóand and hamburger and pizza places. And what appeared to be overpriced prostitutes. I couldn't escape fast enough.

The balance of my stay was spent in Laureles in Inntu Hotel, a super nice, what I would term a 4-star hotel for Colombia. The drawback was that bringing a guest was not cheap and frowned on. I didn't know that at first. Actually, I was banned from having guests in the end, haha.

As a result, on my last day I decided to step out of character and check out the scene that is most talked about here. However, it was a Sunday and I didn't realize many places were closed. I went to El Centro to see the street scene. I was grossed out by lack of talent. Nothing better than a 5. Loutron and Fase II were closed, 2 spots I would have loved to try. I ended up at Jade by Parque Lleras. It didn't seem to get good reviews here and it wasn't high on my list of places to try. But I was running out of time.

It is a ***** to find. It's kind of hidden away on a side street by the park and there are no signs at all, including on the buzzers. Suffice to say, with much determination, I found it. What a find! I entered to find 2 seemingly bored guys watching TV. They barely acknowledged me. Then mamasan came out and introduced me to the 2 girls working. One was an 8+, a 19-year old petite girl with typical Colombiana drop-dead gorgeous looks. The other wasn't as nice but not bad. I took the 19-year old for an hour. The cost was ridiculously cheap, 150 k for everything for an hour. I actually got a nice massage and Samantha was quite pleasant. I wish I found her sooner so I could convince her to spend time with me. It was a great way to spend my last day there.

It was an active vacation and I did lots of things in and outside Medellin, sometimes by myself, other times accompanied by a SA woman. You all probably know the touristy things to do or can easily go to TripAdvisor to find them. So, I won't bother to mention them. However, the highlight of the trip was a full day mountain bicycle tour going down the Andes starting at about 7000 or so feet. It was a 6000-foot descent. It may sound easy since 90% was downhill, but not quite. I'm still sore from the bumpy roads. Still, if you can ride a bike without fear, you can do the tour. I also had the best lunch in Colombia on the tour. The lunch was served at a private home and was the best meal I had in Medellin. The coffee was also the best. It is grown in the region we were cycling as well as roasted locally. I ended up finding a store in Provenza that sold the coffee and brought some to take home.

Speaking of food, I was extremely disappointed. Perhaps it was because I didn't know any better. All I found was mostly touristy food or street carts and small restaurants that served fried stuff, I. E. , empanadas. I had more typical Colombian food when traveling outside Medellin. In Medellin, I stuck mostly to the street carts or tiny restaurants in the less touristy areas that cost the equivalent of $2 or $3 for lunch. I found this far better than the alternatives, not to mention a lot cheaper.

Taxis are dirt cheap. And Uber is half the price of a taxi. I tried to take Uber whenever I could not only to save money, but the yellow taxis got lost too often. The address system in Medellin is confusing, to say the least. At least Uber drivers have navigators. Still, I had a ridiculous amount of Uber no-shows that I had to cancel and incurred a cancellation fee. I added up my cancellation fees and at about 90 cents, the total was about $20. Although you can theoretically get your money back through the app, it never worked, and I wrote to Uber for a refund. Also, Uber is very illegal in Colombia. Many drivers ask you to sit up front, so it appears they're not a taxi service. I heard more than one story of Uber getting pulled over on the way to the airport and the passengers had to disembark and wait for a white taxi. Uber is the same price as a regular taxi anyway to the airport.

I will return soon. And seriously consider retiring there.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202488]For those interested in this type of relationship, I suggest you start getting accustomed to SA in Colombia before you get there. Granted, a monthly membership is nearly $90, but that probably helps keep the riff raff away and is worth the experience. It doesn't make sense to try to meet women online before you get there though.[/QUOTE]Great report Jooks. I must be the riff raff that SA is trying to keep out. Someone wrote a big report on it a few months ago in the Philippines thread so I decided to make a profile so I could see the difference between those women and women from other sites. I don't know if I ever completed the profile, but I definitely never paid the $90, so I think they sent me an email saying they were kicking me off. I get 3 months on Cupid for $49 or $59 and there are so many other sites that are free, so I am pretty timid about $90 for 1 month.

But my mongering experience is pretty limited in Colombia because it is so easy to get normal chicks that you don't have to pay. Like you, I usually pick a spot for vacation (mostly a place for scuba diving) then look on ISG to see what the mongering options are should the need arise.

You are also right about contacting chicks too early. With so many guys hitting the chicks up (most who probably have no plans to even come) the memory and attention span is very short. Works better when you can say to a chick that you are in town and when can she meet up.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202488]...Taxis are dirt cheap. And Uber is half the price of a taxi. I tried to take Uber whenever I could not only to save money, but the yellow taxis got lost too often. The address system in Medellin is confusing, to say the least. At least Uber drivers have navigators. Still, I had a ridiculous amount of Uber no-shows that I had to cancel and incurred a cancellation fee. I added up my cancellation fees and at about 90 cents, the total was about $20. Although you can theoretically get your money back through the app, it never worked, and I wrote to Uber for a refund. Also, Uber is very illegal in Colombia. Many drivers ask you to sit up front, so it appears they're not a taxi service. ...[/QUOTE]I used to have the same problem with Uber in Poblado, not arriving. I realized they would stop a half block away from where I requested. Now, after they confirm a driver, I send them a message with the name of the establishment where I am waiting. That works well for me. When I am in Laureles, they always come to the address I request. I suppose they are not watched as closely in Laureles. During my last trip, I had 100% success rate. One guy couldn't find Hooters, but I found him when he got near. I saw on GPS tracking that he was making many wrong turns.

I appreciate your sense of what makes you happy. I am four years older than you, and sometimes I just want to meet a lady to have someone to be with, with sex as an option. I have a few long-time lady friends who fit that bill. Many of the ladies in Medellin are so nice. I think they are surprised when someone shows an interest in them as a person, and not as a sex object.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202488]...For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket..[/QUOTE]I was actually planing to stay there since the apartment looked really good on the pictures. What was so bad about the guy? And were chicas allowed, guards etc?

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2202515]I was actually planing to stay there since the apartment looked really good on the pictures. What was so bad about the guy? And were chicas allowed, guards etc?[/QUOTE]The apartments are managed by a management company. Except for my apartment which was owned by the super host. It got confusing because the host used some of the services of the management company. I never saw him and I don't think he was even in the area. I'm only mentioning this because the management company was great and the experience would have been a disaster without them. Problems with Internet, cable TV and lots of things missing like towels. I'm fairly certain these problems were specific to my host and apartment. If you're going to stay there, go through the management company.

I can only tell you about my apartment since I did not see the other apartments. I was told by management that it was one of the best apartments. I found the furnishings to be passable but on the cheap side. It's a decent place though. However, the location is out of the way and not close to much of anything. Taxi drivers (including Uber) had trouble finding it since it is relatively new. On the plus side, it is only about 1 km to Provenza, a semi-touristy area but nice. I went for my morning run there and back.

There was absolutely no problem with having chicas over. The front desk was 24/7 and all spoke English. Most of the time, no ID was even asked for. Personally, the area is not for me, but I wouldn't let my experience dissuade you. The problems were seemingly specific to the host.

Well I've begun my homework on Facebook girls. I've read this section on Medellin going back a year, and have an excellent idea of prices vs. Time, quality, & quantity. I've actually built a small list of girls ready to come over to my place. I plan to stay at an Airbnb the entire trip. I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. As I prepare to book my Airbnb's, I'm concerned that some may be located where Facebook girls won't go?

A few of the Airbnb's are only about 1 km from Bar Maracaibo on Calle 53. Will I encounter a large section of Facebook girls who will say, "Sorry, I don't go there."

These particular Airbnb's are pretty nice. So I'll be able to forward the girl photos to help assuage any fears. I'm just worried the girls in Medellin will see this area like the girls in Bogota see the Santa Fe district.

I hope I'm just overthinking this, but I'the hate to book in this area, and then have to go rent a love motel somewhere because a good chunk of FB girls won't go there.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202488]
For my first week, I stayed at an Airbnb in Poblado, Soul. The guy I dealt with was an asshole, though he was a super host. It's a decent building, but I had lots of issues with the apartment. It's also not near anything within walking distance except a supermarket.
[/QUOTE]I imagine that is a drawback of many view apartments with a pool- they are not convenient or located on a busy street and hard to get to and from. I thought about staying there and management said bringing girls would not be a problem it was just that I like to be close to Ave Poblado, La 70, or Parque Poblado without being above Ave Poblado in Lleres. I like to walk out the door and be close to whatever I need. It is kind of difficult to need a cab every time I leave the building.

[QUOTE]Parque Lleras at night completely grossed me out. It's full of drunken Americans, ear-deafening reggaetand and hamburger and pizza places. And what appeared to be overpriced prostitutes. I couldn't escape fast enough.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's nothing special is it? The last thing I want in Colombia are loud, obnoxious Americans.

Gents,

Exercise caution with your reports. Unfortunately, I just found out there is a rat among us, in the MDE forum. A girl that I would definitely repeat is pissed about photos that I posted (I can certainly understand, but in my twisted mind, I would also think it has helped her business).

I truly appreciate all of the reports, but I for one, will probably no longer be posting.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2202695]Well I've begun my homework on Facebook girls. I've read this section on Medellin going back a year, and have an excellent idea of prices vs. Time, quality, & quantity. I've actually built a small list of girls ready to come over to my place. I plan to stay at an Airbnb the entire trip. I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. As I prepare to book my Airbnb's, I'm concerned that some may be located where Facebook girls won't go?

A few of the Airbnb's are only about 1 km from Bar Maracaibo on Calle 53. Will I encounter a large section of Facebook girls who will say, "Sorry, I don't go there."

These particular Airbnb's are pretty nice. So I'll be able to forward the girl photos to help assuage any fears. I'm just worried the girls in Medellin will see this area like the girls in Bogota see the Santa Fe district.

I hope I'm just overthinking this, but I'the hate to book in this area, and then have to go rent a love motel somewhere because a good chunk of FB girls won't go there.[/QUOTE]Likely majority of them would come from the north of the city that is from areas even worse than the city center. It's even cheaper to send them home by taxi. But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.

[QUOTE=Questner;2202847]Likely majority of them would come from the north of the city that is from areas even worse than the city center. It's even cheaper to send them home by taxi. But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.[/QUOTE]Nice call on that many of these girls will be from areas worse than Centro. Throughout much of the day I've reached out to about a half dozen of my FB girls, and frankly asked if they would have a problem with going there. Not one has. So I'm going to rest assured I don't need to worry about this.

So I've got confirmation from all 3 Airbnb hosts that guests are no problem. I can work with building security to help check the girls ID's to make sure they are of age. I guess I can now focus on the other stuff like scams, or getting drugged, or just dealing with poor sexual performers. I'the like to think that Facebook will have a relatively low percentage of scam artists & thieves?

I think that because you can take a look at their FB profiles going back years that often include photos with family, etc. And that this gives you much more info about the girl than a Tinder page or certainly photosprepagos page. I'm sure scams occur on FB as well. I'the like to know what negative experiences others have had.

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2202695] . . . I have also contacted all Airbnb hosts to make sure it's ok to have overnight guests. . . .[/QUOTE]Did you make it clear that you were asking not only about the host's policy but also about the building's policy? At least one guy has reported here before that he had an ok from the host but still could not take a girl to his room because of the building's policy.

Here's a free multi-million idea for someone. Start a web site called HobbyingBnb. Accommodations for Mongerers.

Bob.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202934]I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.[/QUOTE]It is hot as hell in Cali, but one of the best places to find non pros. I mean real non pros. If you can dance you can really do good there. Some Spanish is needed to really hit the jackpot. I have been there twice, and both times I did well there almost without trying.

As far as mongering things are very spread out, but many, many good options.

I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.

I lived in Colombia for 3 months, not sure what was worse the food or the service, it was so bad, even in the good restaurants Girls not bad, but not for me prefer Russia or Mexico.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2202959]Did you make it clear that you were asking not only about the host's policy but also about the building's policy? At least one guy has reported here before that he had an ok from the host but still could not take a girl to his room because of the building's policy.

Here's a free multi-million idea for someone. Start a web site called HobbyingBnb. Accommodations for Mongerers.[/QUOTE]That is actually a terrible idea. As you yourself alluded to the building's policy. No neighbors anywhere want hookers paraded in and out of their building. For this main reason airbnb has been banned by the govt in Thailand and in most cultures where prostitution is tolerated locals use love motels.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202934]1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you found the restaurants near the First and Second Parks of Laureles. If you go a little further out, near the Floresta Metro station, you will find many local restaurants. You will not see many tourists. You are also close to the metro, so you can get to other areas easily. Uber is readily available there. I have stayed in a couple of airbnb apartments in that area.

Hey guys,

So I'll be returning to Medellin. Plan on returning to New Life, Aiffe and the Maracaibo Bar. Is there any other casas that you would recommend? Any strip clubs? Anything in general? Like the 18-22, since I'm young myself. Also the street areas? What street are they? Would greatly appreciate. Trying to write a great report when I come back.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2202934]I just got back and I'm planning a return in the near future. I could use a little advice to make for an even more perfect experience on my next outing.

1. While I was happy with my hotel room in Laureles, I wasn't overly thrilled about the particular location in Laureles. It was okay, but a little touristy. I stayed at Inntu Hotel on Circular 73 if that means anything. The main thing I disliked was a lack of "good" restaurant options nearby. The area is crowded with restaurants and tourists, but the restaurants are mostly touristy and are mostly Mexican, Italian or American. It seems Colombians love pasta and hamburgers. I do too, but not in Colombia. Is there a less touristy section in Laureles to stay or perhaps Envigado close to restaurants and shops? However, compared to Poblado, Laureles was far superior in terms of tourists.

2. I've never been to Cali. Is a side trip for a few days to a week worth it? I hear mixed things about Cali.[/QUOTE]Medellin is loaded with Mexican, Italian, Japanese, Peruvian, American etc restaurants because a lot of people aren't huge fans of the native Colombian food. IMO it can be very satisfying (e. G. Bandeja Paisa), but it's not fine cuisine.

I love Cali. As the other poster said, it's much easier to find non-pros than in Medellin. And if you're into dancing (Salsa, Afro-Cuban), you will love it. Provided you're staying more than a few days, you can immerse yourself in the scene and you will meet lots of non-pros. Weather-wise it's hotter than Medellin, but not as hot as Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Questner;2202847] But I would advise against staying in the center; other BMs find it tolerable.[/QUOTE]Why? The majority of the action is in Centro. What other neighborhood can you stay in where there is so much action within walking distance if you are staying in the right place? What did find you "intolerable" about it, personally?

You can post reports without including personal details or identifiable full facial photos without girls' permission. This kind of "rat amongst us" issue comes up pretty regularly. I can't remember ever seeing something similar on the Colombian counterpart forums. The reason is you never find candid photos of girls who haven't given their permission and you never see personal details. Believe me, girls are fully aware of the Colombian sites.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2202772]Gents,

Exercise caution with your reports. Unfortunately, I just found out there is a rat among us, in the MDE forum. A girl that I would definitely repeat is pissed about photos that I posted (I can certainly understand, but in my twisted mind, I would also think it has helped her business).

I truly appreciate all of the reports, but I for one, will probably no longer be posting.[/QUOTE]

Of course girls have no problem going to Centro. I hope no one really believes girls from Paris or Comuna 13 do their shopping at Santa Fe or Oviedo Mall.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2202879]Nice call on that many of these girls will be from areas worse than Centro. Throughout much of the day I've reached out to about a half dozen of my FB girls, and frankly asked if they would have a problem with going there. Not one has. So I'm going to rest assured I don't need to worry about this.

So I've got confirmation from all 3 Airbnb hosts that guests are no problem. I can work with building security to help check the girls ID's to make sure they are of age. I guess I can now focus on the other stuff like scams, or getting drugged, or just dealing with poor sexual performers. I'the like to think that Facebook will have a relatively low percentage of scam artists & thieves?

I think that because you can take a look at their FB profiles going back years that often include photos with family, etc. And that this gives you much more info about the girl than a Tinder page or certainly photosprepagos page. I'm sure scams occur on FB as well. I'the like to know what negative experiences others have had.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2203003]It sounds like you found the restaurants near the First and Second Parks of Laureles. If you go a little further out, near the Floresta Metro station, you will find many local restaurants. You will not see many tourists. You are also close to the metro, so you can get to other areas easily. Uber is readily available there. I have stayed in a couple of airbnb apartments in that area.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.

[QUOTE=Combo;2203069]Medellin is loaded with Mexican, Italian, Japanese, Peruvian, American etc restaurants because a lot of people aren't huge fans of the native Colombian food. IMO it can be very satisfying (e. G. Bandeja Paisa), but it's not fine cuisine.

I love Cali. As the other poster said, it's much easier to find non-pros than in Medellin. And if you're into dancing (Salsa, Afro-Cuban), you will love it. Provided you're staying more than a few days, you can immerse yourself in the scene and you will meet lots of non-pros. Weather-wise it's hotter than Medellin, but not as hot as Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Yes, bandeja paisa! Surprisingly, no restaurants near, or any that I found, served it.

I suppose I should mosey over to the Cali forum, but while I'm here, any suggestions about where to stay in Cali, like which area and any recommended hotels or apartments?

[QUOTE=Jooks;2203238]Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.[/QUOTE]The Floresta station is the next station out from the Estadio station. I find the apartments on airbnb. When you search airbnb, it has a map to show where each apartment is located.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2203245]The Floresta station is the next station out from the Estadio station. I find the apartments on airbnb. When you search airbnb, it has a map to show where each apartment is located.[/QUOTE]Thanks, and sorry to belabor this. My sense of direction was never all there.

I'm trying to picture where Floresta Station is in relation to the Stadium. My morning run took me first to the Stadium. I think going from Cra. 73 and then I made a right (N, W, E, S. No idea) and ended up at another station with a big open area and lots of vendors. Would that be Floresta?

[QUOTE=Jooks;2203239]Yes, bandeja paisa! Surprisingly, no restaurants near, or any that I found, served it.

I suppose I should mosey over to the Cali forum, but while I'm here, any suggestions about where to stay in Cali, like which area and any recommended hotels or apartments?[/QUOTE]I like staying in the north part of Cali.

Near the Torre de Cali hotel.

I was just there last week.

Brought back really good memories!

Cali was the place to be before Medellin got much safer and now more popular among tourists and mongers LOL.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2201821]Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?

Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?[/QUOTE]Anyone got any advice please?

Added a few and they have agreed to hang out but need to make sure they are P4P and don't think I want a Colombian girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2203259]Thanks, and sorry to belabor this. My sense of direction was never all there.

I'm trying to picture where Floresta Station is in relation to the Stadium. My morning run took me first to the Stadium. I think going from Cra. 73 and then I made a right (N, W, E, S. No idea) and ended up at another station with a big open area and lots of vendors. Would that be Floresta?[/QUOTE]I don't know E, W, N, and S there either. Florester is the next station past Estadio if you were going from downtown. Floresta has a lot of vendors around it, but it's not an open area. I think you probably went to the Suramericana station. Going from your hotel, you would turn left at the Estadio station to go to Floresta.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2201821]Any tips for finding girls on Facebook?

Added a few girls on there who look like they might be P4P but what's the most polite way of asking if they fuck for money?[/QUOTE]Ask them to come to your hotel or apartment. If they agree, it's almost a sure thing they are P4P, unless it is a very inexperienced chica. Some may ask what are your plans. Tell them you want to go to bed with them. If they are not P4P, and they get upset, then they won't talk to you again. The very few I have encountered who are not P4P are still polite in saying they don't do that.

I did 4 nights in BOG and now it was time to see MDE. Travelling with my brother, another horn-dog, we arrived in MDE around 8 pm. Checked into Hotel San Fernando Plaza. Around $64 a night with breakfast, gym and a pool. Girl friendly, but I'll get to that later.

1st night following the Chica list, thanks World Travel 69 (I was never able to download the map) we went to Conejitas Bar Show, Carrera 53 # 51-58. I found a super sweet Venezuelan named Valery, 1st day there. She convinced me she was special so I agreed to 70 k for 30 min (should be 50 k). I watched her pay? K for the room. My brother paid 50 k all in. Chica list quoted 50 k. Anyway she was really nice and fun, CBJ, CFS, DATY, multi pos and nice conversation. Neighborhood was really seedy that late, around 11 PM. We walked around a little but the next bar wasn't as good. A little spooky walking around with my wallet and cell phone. Later during my stay I was on this exact same street and it was filled with people and street stalls. There were another 4 or 5 girls there I would have been very happy with that night.

Day 2 we went to New Life in Villa Nueva, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39. Cubicle for viewing with a drink. 16 ladies step in for 10 secs giving name. We had a notepad and a pen. I goes very fast. I picked one he picked one, off we went. Price list in the cubicle says 50 k - 30 min, 65 k - 45 min. My girl had oil on her silicone boobs and that's what I wanted. She upsold me on a BBBJ and 'special" service, I was OK with that as I wanted to see how it turned out. Good fun, BBBJ, DT, 69, multi pos, all oily. About 4 girls of the 16 I would have been happy with. We enjoyed the lively walking area's around Parque Barrio and had some dinner. My brother hit on a beautiful girl we saw in the restaurant on Calle 53 (he got her number and had the full freebee GFE with her for the next two days). After dinner we went to the 2 strips near there -Ejecutiva Strip Club and Club Maracaibo. This was around 7-8 PM. Nice fare but lot's of local guys too, choose quickly. Both bars had around 20 girls, 5-6 girl above 6's, the rest were so so. It's Friday night, we are back in the hotel room at midnight, I'm all dressed to go out to Lleras Park but my bro is doing WhatsApp with the girl he met. 2 AM and he NOW want's to go out. I'm sleepy, should have gone on my own as Sat I saw what it is all about.

Day 3 I'm exploring language schools to study Spanish, we go to El Tesoro for the city wide view. Bro makes dinner plans with his normal girl. 8:30 PM they go to dinner. I have a few beers in the hotel and go out at 9:30. I end up meeting them after dinner in Parque Lleras area and we have some fun chit chat with drinks (neither of us speak much Spanish and she spoke no English) Broken Spanish and Google translate, we all had a fun time, lot's of laughter.

We split up so they could go do their business. I wondered around for a bit then ran into two street walkers. I was immediately hot to go, I was feeling charitable so I invited her friend too. Bad idea as you will see later. 150 k each agreed upon we get into a taxi just as the rain starts. At my hotel we discover that the girls must have ID at night. The 2nd girl doesn't have any so they tell me they know a hotel to go to nearby. 7 min later enter Las Cabannas buy taxi, 50 k per person (might be less pre-booked) We enter the room that has a stripper pole, sex couch, Jacuzzi tub, a big bed and an excellent sound system. All the mini bar items, drinks, condoms, snacks. The girls (around 19 yrs old) strip down to thongs and start music, dancing and filling the tub with bubbles. Sexy dancing on the pole, tub 3 together then I sat on the couch for the 1st one to start CBJ and CFS, then we moved to the bed all together. I start some foreplay but then find out they are "familia" cousins, and they won't touch each other or do lesbian. Oh well. I still have another girl to get inside. I enter the second girl with a new condom while the other plays with herself and we rock and roll to the music. Natural, young beautiful bodies. Heavenly. I was willing to go for the second round as agreed but they seemed to want to end it for less COP. Oh well, I was drunk and sleepy so I was OK with it. They only offered Facebook as a contact so they sent a friend request from my FB to themselves. Back to my hotel to pay them off from my safe and we agreed to meet the next day. I slept well.

Sadly no friend add on FB but I had MUC, BCN and LIS planned for the next week where I will have plenty of nooky. But I hope to find the 1st one again as she was perfect for me. I will post in MUC reports, follow if you want to hear about the Polish girl I met there. Barcelona and Lisbon to follow as well.

I am going back to Medellin on the 10th of Aug for one month of Spanish study. PM me if you will be in town and need a wingman or a drinking buddy (10 Aug to 9 Sept).

P.S. My brothers girl had no ID either and ended up in Las Cabannas the same night. We probably were only 2 cabanas away from each other in a motel with a paid Hotel empty.

P.S. S If anyone has FB contacts in MDE maybe you know her as Rubi Rose. Please get her to add me.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2203329]...need to make sure they are P4P and don't think I want a Colombian girlfriend.[/QUOTE]In the P4 P world, girls use the word "cita", which means appointment in Spanish. If you ask for a cita, and she agrees to come, you are in business.

BBVA Bank 300 k max, no fee.

Davivienda 400 k max, no fee.

Servibanca 780 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Bancolombia 600 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Banco de Bogota 600 k max, 10.5 k fee per withdrawal.

—This was the result of my research a year ago for my trip to Bogota. I assume the fees are the same in Medellin?

—I believe Bancolombia recently instilled this fee. It was free in 2017 for me, but not in Mar-18.

—I have only withdrawn from Bancolombia and Servibanca.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2203418]In the P4 P world, girls use the word "cita", which means appointment in Spanish. If you ask for a cita, and she agrees to come, you are in business.[/QUOTE]They use the same word in English. Cita means date.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2203399]I don't know E, W, N, and S there either. Florester is the next station past Estadio if you were going from downtown. Floresta has a lot of vendors around it, but it's not an open area. I think you probably went to the Suramericana station. Going from your hotel, you would turn left at the Estadio station to go to Floresta.[/QUOTE]You want the orange line, towards La Aurora.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2203428]BBVA Bank 300 k max, no fee.

Davivienda 400 k max, no fee.

Servibanca 780 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Bancolombia 600 k max, 12 k fee per withdrawal.

Banco de Bogota 600 k max, 10.5 k fee per withdrawal.

This was the result of my research a year ago for my trip to Bogota. I assume the fees are the same in Medellin?

I believe Bancolombia recently instilled this fee. It was free in 2017 for me, but not in Mar-18.

I have only withdrawn from Bancolombia and Servibanca.[/QUOTE]Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2203469]Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.[/QUOTE]Thanks for confirming Bancolombia now charges a fee. Also, I do cash-advance withdrawals using a credit card. So the low limits at BBVA & Davivienda are no good for me.

I belive the fee is 12 k at Servibanca. Can anyone confirm that?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2203469]Davivienda is 320 max per withdrawal, but you can do two withdrawals, back-to-back. BBVA also allows two withdrawals back-to-back.

You are correct, Bancolombia now charges a fee. I have never been able to withdraw more than 300 k per transaction. When I did two transactions back-to-back to get 600 k, they charged 12 k for each.

I don't know the amount of fee the others charge, but earlier this year I verified that they do charge a fee. I also checked some other banks which I don't remember the names, but they all charged a fee, except BBVA and Davienda.[/QUOTE]At one time I was able to get up to 2 million out from Davivienda at Santa Fe mall, with no fee. A friend just tried a few weeks ago and the limit was 400 k with a 15 k fee.

This info is 6 months old. If you are in the area and your card works in their ATM, Banco Pichincha had no fee and allowed 1 million per withdrawal, with multiple withdrawals on the same transaction. Watched my roommate pull out 6 million back in December. They only have a couple of branches. The only one I've been to is south of Santa Fe mall, across from the DHL building.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2203238]Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.[/QUOTE]I like El Peñon and San Antonio or even a bit farther South near Parque de Perro. I don't particularly like la Sexta. There is night life around there, I just don't like the vibe. Some guys like to be farther North near Chipichapi shopping center. I don't like being there as you are sort of far away from stuff. I like to be able to walk out of my apartment and have cafes, bars, parks nearby.

For your guide, the "nice" areas in Cali aren't as expansive as those in Medellin (Poblado, Belen, Laureles, Envigado). It's probably a more dangerous city vs Medellin (though Medellin has plenty of no-go zones).

Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203688]I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?[/QUOTE]Have you RTFF lately?

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]I was a bit disappointed with the quantity of girls in the Cave at Mansion but we never hung around there for more than an hour, and I think we kept going at odd times when things were slow. It's not a place like Del Rey in Costa Rica that you can grab a girl for a quickie whenever you want, its more GFE and most of the guys we met there were single and networking most of their chicas on FB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lou32;2201512]About La Cueva, I just got back from a couple of weeks at the Mansion:

One night, 5 guys and 2 girls.

Next night, 6 guys and 20 girls.

Night after that, 8 guys and 7 girls.

Next night again, 2 guys and 18 girls.

That is just how it goes there. Luck of the Draw![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2203703]Have you RTFF lately?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203708]Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.[/QUOTE]Well if you just happen to go when there are 5 guys and 2 girls, I would say there would not be much value in that. Or if you spend $70 for a room plus another $70 for a chick then I would say there is definitely no value in that; not when you consider Medellin is crawling with way cheaper chicks and way cheaper places to stay. There are like-minded people at every hooker joint in Medellin. Don't know many mongers that are going to Medellin for the guys though.

I wasn't trying to be a dick. It is just that 2 people in the last couple of weeks posted that there was nothing special about the place. Didn't know if you had seen the reports or not, so I called myself being nice enough to waste my time putting their statements into a neat package for you. But I see that went over like a pregnant pole vaulter.

P. S. If you had really read it then you would have known that IslandMonger said he was diappointed with the QUANTITY of girls and not the quality as you have mistakenly referred to being the gist of the cutouts. There was not one thing said about quality.

When I stayed at the Castillo in the past, 210 was actually my room of choice because is was on the lower level next to the pool. It was private. Unfortunate, things changed a little bit when Robert put the taco kitchen in the room next door. And when the pool and backyard was being renovated. The kitchen is still there, but I would hope the renovations are finally done. All of that said, you do have peace and privacy at night.

I have done what you are suggesting. Have a room at Castillo and then my own apartment. And then I make a decision about where I will primarily stay. I usually didn't do it for the entire trip, but for a few days to get the numbers for new talent. If you are going to stay in the Castillo with plans to go to La Cueva, I recommend Thursday and Friday night. Any other day is a crap shoot. Thursdays and Fridays are usually pretty steady.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203688]Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203688]Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?[/QUOTE]Although I have never stayed at the mansion myself, I have had one very experienced monger tell me that the best way to approach Medellin is to go to the Mansion the first couple on days and connect with all the chicas there on Facebook and then you are set for the rest of your time. Otherwise you will have to rely on establishments and their madams, taxi drivers and the prepago sites. If you are not a fan of the central casas and strip clubs then you will end up paying more than having an extensive Facebook list. The taxi drivers and madams need their cut. Plus the Facebook chicas based on reporting tend to hang around longer at your apartment. My experienced friend pays between 150-200 k for home delivery. I pay between $200 k and 300 K for home delivery not having a Facebook list. Here is a conversation I had with a prepago from the websites on Whatsapp.

+57 321 4469718: Si amor.

+57 321 4469718: Me mandas LOS datos nombre del hotel numero de habitacióand why tu nombre.

+57 321 4469718: Te cuesta 300 la hora amor.

Me: Usualmente pago 250 por 90 minutos. Prefiero en la boca sin condóand.

+57 321 4469718: Ahh no amor no lo recibo en la boca.

Me: No oral natural?

[+57 321 4469718: Amor el oral sería natural 30 adicional why mi valor es ese no otro.

I declined this one. So getting a Facebook list has value.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203708]Yes, I have.

My question wasn't so much about the quality of the girls at La Cueva, but rather about the value (as a newbie) of access to a location where there are like-minded people. Specifically, I was hoping to get a response for someone who has done the same thing as I contemplate doing: getting a very low-cost room just to hang out there.

But I thank you for your top-notch, snarky feedback.[/QUOTE]Actually I think the value of the Mansion (and el Castillo up the hill) goes beyond the girls that may or may not be hanging around the place. The girls on-premise can be really good or really weak with no rhyme or reason. However I like that there is typically a camaraderie among the guests. To me this has value if you are visiting Medellin by yourself. It's nice to have like-minded people around. If the girls on site isn't happening, you have fellow guests to go out to Strip bars with or to hit the casas. Or just to going out to lunch or dinner with. It's generally a pretty sociable place, sort of a relaxed frat house atmosphere.

Of course, some guys don't give a crap about this and those guys are better off just getting an apartment (you'll get a nicer place for less money). There's certainly nothing magical about the girls that come to the Mansion. Most are the same old faces that have been coming for years - generally not the creme de la creme of Medellin.

I appreciate the responses from those of you who responded with opinions on this. I may try it out

@ Mr En - No worries man, you just seemed annoyed. You just didn't understand what I was asking, it's cool. Thanks for your response.

You can do a search on Airbnb with the map and it will show you the metro stations. I ONLY stay in the area near the stadium estadio and floresta stations. It is walking distance to Energy and Tantra massage places and there are quite a few Mileroticos chicas that have places near La 70 or in Laurles area. Try pulling up google maps side by side with the Airbnb maps then get your self familar with the major streets and locate the metro stops. I love taking the metro around SO cheap 75 cents if you get the civica green card, just have to show your passport. I use the metro to go to Poblado and walk up the hill, good exercise.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2203238]Yes, I was right next to the second park. I'm not familiar with the Floresta station. Is it near the Stadium station? Stadium Station was about 1 km from me.

Any advice on how best to look for either an apartment or hotel in the area? My concern is that I won't be able to tell from the address where the apartment or hotel is located.[/QUOTE]

I have a trip coming up next week and I'm looking through ads on Photoprepagos and Mileroticos and I'm seeing plenty of chicas under 150 k, even as low as 70 k per hour. No need to deal with the BS drama of FB / Mansion princesses and their 150 k or 200 k PLUS taxi prices.

Obviously, it's not for everybody. The ability to hold a basic conversation in Spanish is necessary. Also for a newbie, I wouldn't recommend it.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203688]Planning my third trip to MDE now. The past two times I've stayed at nice AirBnBs with pools, hot tubs, etc. I'm kind of a hotel snob and like good places.

I've never been to the Mansion and thought about it this trip, but the only thing available is M2 Room 210, which I gather given the prices is maybe the smallest / worst room.

I'm contemplating just getting this room for two nights just to have access to La Cueva and seeing what this mansion stuff is all about, but also getting another place. Is this crazy? Would it be worth it or no?[/QUOTE]Of course it is worth it. But you really need to stay more than two days and make sure you stop by during the day to catch the pool action and not just La Cueva at night.

I have been mongering in Medellin for over five years now and I still stay at the Mansion from time to time.

When I stay at the Mansion I already have a line up of facebook chicks that I'm going to go out with. I like to stay at the Mansion just to meet up to 20 or so chicks a day that I didn't have to call and don't have to wait for and who I have no obligation to pay or have sex with. It is just a relaxing way to add prepagos to your line up.

I almost never take a Mansion chick on the spot because I have facebook chicks coming to see me day and night. The only way I take a Mansion chick on the same night I meet her is if I have chica cancel on me at the last minute or I see a Mansion chick that is so hot she blows my date away and then I cancel on her. Jajaja.

But that doesn't happen often.

The thing is most Mansion chicks are 6 or 7's with an occasional 8. But they are nice BBBJ and DFK no extra charge and the highest percentage of GFE of any venue in Medellin.

The chicks will go out partying with you if you like the club scene in Medellin. A lot of guys that stay at the Mansion take the time to make friends with the girls and take them out to dinner and a movie or short day trips around Medellin.

But if you are strictly looking for sex and not interested in socializing with women then there are better values than the Mansion.

Thanks to all who chimed in with advice about Medellin neighborhoods and Medellin in general. And Cali The advice has been invaluable and led me to start researching the available tools online. One of the most helpful tools I found about Medellin neighborhoods is: [URL]https://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/[/URL].

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2203755]I appreciate the responses from those of you who responded with opinions on this. I may try it out

@ Mr En - No worries man, you just seemed annoyed. You just didn't understand what I was asking, it's cool. Thanks for your response.[/QUOTE]I did the same thing last year, while I was living in Poblado. Booked 2 nights at M2 in order to check it out. I was there Friday and Saturday nights, although I didn't stay in the room Saturday night, only returning Sunday to get my stuff and check out. Here's my impression.

The room I had was 212, which had no bathroom. I had to use the bathroom at the pool, which was closed for renovations. The room was cheaper than the other rooms, but more expensive than Hotel Porton Medellin, where I had stayed a few weeks earlier. The Mansion room, if it had a bathroom would have been a 2 star room, while Hotel Porton Medellin was 4 stars. The furniture looked like it spent 20 years in a frat house, before being moved to M2. At least the room was clean and quiet. I understand that they have remodeled that room since then. It may be better now.

La Cueva wasn't what I expected. It's a man cave attached to a garage. Literally. Except someone ran out of money building their man cave and furnished it with Goodwill rejects. If it was at a friend's house, it would be cool. At a place with Mansion prices, it's rather sad.

The girls weren't anything exceptional, in my opinion. I'm not extremely picky, so I took 2 different girls to my room. Neither was spectacular or especially memorable. The only jaw dropping beauty I saw there was a Facebook girl someone else had called in.

The like minded guys were there, but none of them impressed me. As others have said, it's a frat house atmosphere. The guys were mostly loud, boastful and crude. Personally, I couldn't see myself going anywhere with that group. If I'd spent more time there, I probably could have met a few guys who weren't as abrasive. Maybe hanging out around the M1 pool would be a better scene.

Last thing to mention is the hill. It's 3 blocks up a steep hill to get from M1 to M2. If you're in shape and used to the altitude, it's a rough 3 blocks. Otherwise it's a heart attack waiting to happen. Because of a 1 way street, it's a 10 block taxi ride, which can take 15 minutes during rush hour.

The value of the place is you don't have to do any work. You call or email them, tell them where you learned about them, I gave them my username on ISG, pay for the room and that's it. No time spent looking at maps or establishing contacts, no time wasted learning a few words of Spanish and no questions about pharmacies and little blue pills. Any questions you have, someone at M1 will have an answer.

If you're willing to put in a bit if effort and you're not looking for some frat buddies, there's no reason to stay at M2. Find 4 or 5 Facebook girls, explore their friend lists, find a dozen more girls on Facebook. Keep adding friends and soon you'll have 100 girls who top anything you will find at the Mansion. Practice with Duolingo and search for the things that interest you each day and when you hit the ground you'll be off and running.

However, for some people, the Mansion is the perfect place. It's what some guys want or need. They go there, have a great time and repeat. It lets them sample a little bit of Colombia without really venturing into Colombia. The question you need to ask yourself is whether it's right for you.

I tried to find on facebook connections and had zero results. Any suggestions or links that you could share?

Greatly appreciate.

[QUOTE=Butch145;2204308]I tried to find on facebook connections and had zero results. Any suggestions or links that you could share?

Greatly appreciate.[/QUOTE]Start with these 2 then look thru their friends list:

La Vanee Restrepo.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940[/URL]

Limbekey Queen.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/LIMBEKEYQUEENSTRUNK[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2204494]Start with these 2 then look thru their friends list:

La Vanee Restrepo.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940[/URL]

Limbekey Queen.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/LIMBEKEYQUEENSTRUNK[/URL][/QUOTE]I heard that la Vanee is somewhat of a pimpette. She'll hook you up with whatever your looking for as far as type of girl. Anyone have info?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2204494]Restrepo[/QUOTE]It seems like half the population of Medellin has the last name Restrepo. A facebook search on just that last name would probably find plenty of results.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2204494]La Vanee Restrepo.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/eliana.restrepo.940[/URL][/QUOTE]Ask to join her WhatsApp list. She'll send you dozens and dozens of barrio girls.

One friendly suggestion: Check the ID well because some look (and probably are) minors. She doesn't care if you get busted, she won't be doing time.

I am thinking about trying MDE.

I've done 30+ trips to Buenos Aires (I have many more posts on the Argentina sister site to ISG), but haven't mongered in too many other LatAm hot spots (outside of the US and Argentina, most of my mongering has been in London and Montreal). Sadly, my Spanish is still terrible. I was looking at Costa Rica and MDE and I think that MDE fits the bill better, for what I like.

I'd probably do about 10 days and I'd make sure to visit the Mansion (s) and other must-see locales. However, if I session 1 to 3 times per day, that leaves me with at least another 10 hours per day to fill up. I like to eat, drink, see sights, museums, sit by the pool, enjoy the view, etc.

I'd be interested in the following:

1) Hotel recommendations: a nice hotel in a good neighborhood that I can walk around in, hit cafes, good restaurants, find chicas and enjoy without feeling like I need to have my guard up, constantly. As a rule, I do almost always have my guard up, but I'd like to be able to relax a little, too. Being my first trip to a new city, I'm going to err on the side of caution.

2) "Guide" recommendations: A couple trustworthy (preferably attractive) bi-lingual chicas who are fun to hangout with, take to dinner and see the sights. I honestly don't care it they provide adult services, I am certain that I can figure that out (my lack of Spanish has never held me back). I am talking about filling up the time, between sessions, with quality interaction with nice women.

3) Restaurant / bar recommendations: good places to eat and drink.

4) Chicas?: I'll keep RTFF.

Thanks guys.