Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

In the first place, Abortion in the PI is technically illegal and most filipinas I now would have a bigger problem with that than they would having an unplanned child. The cultural element makes the claimed need for one suspect. Legality aside (which has never been a block to alot of things here) there is amply access to chemical solutions to any possible pregnancy issues. Ru-390 can be had from a number of pharmacys with a minimum of hassle (or cost) and at early stages would be the preferred solution to Vigo's problem assuming it is true. The cost would be less than P1000.

As for the girls reaction to potential police involvment, I wouldnt assume to much there since she may have a more real fear of a corrupt cop being paid by you, than any guilt over some scam. In the PI it truely is a case of "How much justice can you afford".

In the PI it truely is a case of "How much justice can you afford".[/QUOTE]

Too true.

A little more than a decade ago a guy in Angeles beat a "righteous"* murder rap with a $40,000 US bribe.

* The victim was found in a closet and the murder weapon was found in the room along with a couple kilos of a controlled substance. The "court" ruled it a suicide. Apparently she shot herself in the face twice, through a pillow !

Sorry, off topic. Emotions still running high. She was the sister of a friend.

FD

Virgo,

If you have a pic of this con artist do post it for us. It doesn't have to be nude or anything, so the rest of us can be on the look out for her and avoid her like the plague.

[QUOTE=Member #2718]

As for the girls reaction to potential police involvment, I wouldnt assume to much there since she may have a more real fear of a corrupt cop being paid by you, than any guilt over some scam. In the PI it truely is a case of "How much justice can you afford".[/QUOTE]Yeah that is something which I hadn't considered however I only threatened police involvement if she refused to have the pregnancy test. I continued the bluff telling her she could meet my 'friend's wife' the following day for a pregnancy test. Her reply was hilarious.

"You know what? I actually did the abortion today!"

Then she went on about if she had a test they would detect she'd had a recent abortion and she'd go to jail blah, blah.

No I've decided she was out for a scam, simple and plain and can't handle having being busted.

The night of the 'conception' was November 3rd....November 24th she claimed her period was already one week late and now she claims she had the abortion on November 28th. I'm no doctor but those dates just don't add up!

Elverselle,

I live in the RP every winter (Oct - Apr) and it is true, there is a lot of scamming for those who are nieve enough to be taken advantage of.

As for the cell phones, there is no "bill" per say. Most of the world doesn't pay a monthly charge for cell phones. Here one buys a "load" and when it runs out, you buy another. One can buy a load for as little as 10 pisos, which is about 4 cents! Most people text message, for 1 piso.

So one doesn't need a lot of money to have a cell phone.

Hope this was helpful.

Vigo,

Interesting lady, she is a little smarter than you think.

Conception happens at ovulation, which is about 14 days into the mentral cycle,

1st day of menses on Oct. 21th
conception on Nov 3rd
so, next menses should be Nov 17th
Hence 1 week late on Nov 24th.

But, I don't buy the abortion on the 28th! Not enough time.

And no, I am not a doctor, but I do play one on TV! Lol, always wanted to say that!

But, my UG degree was in nursing science

[QUOTE=Elversele]Kids in Philippines seems to be used as a weapon against US Americans.

Any filipina you chat with the first thing she will tell you is I AM A SINGLE PARENT, what do you do for a living, some even ask you how much do you make. To me that is a way of saying , HEY I FOUND A SUCKER who will wire me money and pay my cell phone bills, as about 99% of them seem to have one, whether they have a job or not, how can they afford it? Beats me, may be by having suckers wire them money. There are very pretty girls there, and the Oriental look is a big turn on, but the way most of them think, even though some of them still believe in love, leaves a lot to be desired IMHO.[/QUOTE]Check the per capita income of the Philippines. At $50 (cheapest) a cell phone with prepaid services as low as $5 and useable up to 2 years, who do you think can't afford a cell phone back in the Philippines? Practically, nobody there receives a monthly cell phone bill except for the corporate customers.

I know quite a few Filipinas and it seems like the whole country is like helping each other to lie about whether a girl has a bf or is married. The girl will swear up and down she doesn't have a bf or any hks and her friends will lie to support this too. Later I find out she has 1 or more local bf, bfs back in her province, plus countless internet bfs that send her money.

Don't their Filipino bfs get pissed about them getting phone calls all the time from foreigners? And yes they all have cell phones. One girl told me she didn't know how she was going to eat this week as she was txting people.

I haven't visited yet, so this is all from the internet but I've seen it several times. Any comments?

Member twenty-eight thirty-two,

Hey, interesting tidbits of medical research seen recently (last year or so): A significant minority of women have independant ovation and menustration cycles.

I saw this on Yahoo News of the World or some such similar news gathering page. Anyway, after exhaustive tracking of a group of women which included daily scans, researchers found that some women have multiple ovation periods within a menustration cycle that were completely independant of the menustration cycle itself.

This explained the occasional dual pregnancy where one embryo was significantly less developed than the the other. Previously doctors had explained the phenomenon as identical/fraternal embryos with one "nutrient hogging" so to speak. But the daily scans showed that some women were actually dropping a second egg within a couple of weeks and getting pregnant a second time.

I don't remember the number of women showing this independant ovation cycle, but it was something along the order of 10 - 20 percent of the women studied, if memory serves.

Tatoosh

Vigo,

After my experience funding a crazy abortion, I also thought it would be well worth to tell a girl you've had a vasectomy even if that isn't the case. It'd be nice to see her reaction that way.

Stateside, my experience tells me it's well worth any man to ask for a joint appointment with the doctor who'd be handling said pregnancy.

A few months ago I pestered a friend of mine in his 70'S to come to PI because he was getting used by the girls he was trying to bed, giving free trips, loaning money, dinners etc and getting nothing. Finally he goes and even though he has been married before I tell him repeatedly "do not marry the first girl" .Well you know I tried to fix him up with a winner but he said not children "I have raised my family : Well , you know what happens, first girl he meets he is over the moon , goes to Embassey three days later to due the marriage, visa, and she promply quits her job and his free sex:because he told me he of course never pays for it:, he is now just months away from her going to AMerica, she is still seeing customers when he is away and of course he is paying for her and now she told 5 children and sisters who need to take care of the children while he is in town, in addition she now has credit card for over 600000 pesos in her own name , where she can take out in her name, when I ask him he says :I trust her" I almost gag as he has read nothing about filipin culture and knows nothing about bar girls and their mentality. Of course he met her at a bar but he thinks it is just a regular bar. We have tried to tell him but he will not listen and does not want to hear anything about his love , we see disaster for him and I really feel like taking him aside and letting him know she still fools aound but My filipino girl says he is in a dream and all he will do is get upset at me. OH yeah , now he is doing the paperwork to bring her kids over and when I say to him HOw in hell he plans to live a lifestyle he wants, he replies: i filed but when it comes time I will put it off : of course when it comes time his love will cry and threaten and this poor schlub, will be stuck raising 5 kids and flushing his retirement and future down the toilet and his love is trying to figure out other ways to part his cash. OH yeah two of her family members have already had illnessess which required cash infusions. I lke this guy but he is not my closest friend and I feel responsible. Should I talk to him man to man and let him know the realities or just let it go I feel extremely guilty.

[blue]Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it very difficult to read a report that is written as one long block of text. It's kind of like trying to eat an entire steak in one bite.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key every few sentences while you're writing, and thus break your report into smaller paragraphs, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

[i]Jackson[/i][/blue]

Remember too that for most people, cell phones represent the only means of communications. The land line system sucks, and few people can afford to have a house phone. The mail system is a joke, and most people do not have routine access to the Internet. Text messaging is cheap, effective, and instantaneous. Sending SMS is a national preoccupation here.

I was thinking about going to the Philippines to find a wife (as opposed to staying in Thailand).

I have been to Thailand and talked with some other members of the board about finding a wife there and their comments were none too encouraging. For instance, they talked about the complications in marrying a bargirl.

During the time that I stayed in Thailand, it was possible to find accommodation for US$50-100 per month with food expenses that were almost the same amount (if one lives carefully). One year would be something like US$1200.

Since I am financially able, I was thinking about living in the Philippines for several months while I tried to find a wife.

Ideally, I'd not locate in a place like Manila. It would be better to go to Cebu or Puerto Princesa where the cost of living is lower and the girls are not as hardened.

Can anyone offer some suggestions about the potential pitfalls/ fruitfulness of such an endeavor? (And you can send the message to me as a private if you'd like.)

I think you would find the same risks in marrying a bar girl here in the Philippines that you would find in Thailand or almsot anywhere else. The major difference here is that you need not limit your search to this arena. It's easy to meet women here from virtually all walks of life, and your chances of establishing a relationship with someone with a "normal" job are much higher.

To live on the kind of budget you mention, at least here in Davao, would require that you go native. If you do this, you can get a room for about PhP 1,000 and you can eat (again assuming you eat the local foods) for a couple of dollars a day. You would however, be living well below the expatriate standard and you would probably decrease your odds on meeting one of the ladies from genus normalus referred to above.
GE

[QUOTE=Clandestine782]I was thinking about going to the Philippines to find a wife...

Since I am financially able, I was thinking about living in the Philippines for several months while I tried to find a wife.

It would be better to go to Cebu or Puerto Princesa where the cost of living is lower and the girls are not as hardened.

Can anyone offer some suggestions about the potential pitfalls/ fruitfulness of such an endeavor? [/QUOTE]

Clandestine

I would echo GoodEnough’s comment that the risks of marrying a Filipina bar girl are pretty much the same as marrying a Thai bar girl. One possible exception to this statement would be the possibility of finding a Filipina who is brand new to the bar business and yet she speaks sufficient English that you will be able to communicate with her easily. In Thailand, as a general rule, by the time the girls are proficient in English, they have been in the business quite a while.

Your idea of avoiding Manila, given your limited budget, is prudent. There is a very active, family oriented net community called “Living in the Philippines.” The majority of the members are married to Filipinas and live in the greater Cebu metropolitan area.

They have a website with useful information such as cost of living/budgets for several different areas of the Phils and more importantly, they have a very active list server where you can post questions on non-mongering issues and receive several replies within a couple of hours. A warning is in order, do not mention this board in any way with that community, they tend to be rather closed minded when it comes to our preferred hobby.

Here is their URL:
[url]http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/[/url]

The sign up for the list server is on the left side of the page near the bottom.

I would recommend that you start your search with some of the internet dating sites such as FriendFinder and AsianFriendFinder. You may not find the girl of your dreams on these sites, however, if you put in some time in advance, you should be able to hit the ground running when you arrive in the Philippines with a couple of potential Mrs. Clandestines awaiting your arrival.

Hope this helps, I will post some additional information shortly,
TTM