Riverm,
In hindsight was there anyway to avoid what had happened to you? Are most girls in DR like this?
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Riverm,
In hindsight was there anyway to avoid what had happened to you? Are most girls in DR like this?
Sorry things went so badly. Sounds like a drag.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all of that, but perhaps if another reader finds himself in this situation -- never, ever trust the police and avoid them at all costs. When complete avoidance isnt possible, bribe them and radically change your locale.
Perhaps you could have bribed the policeman (the silent one in uniform) from the get-go. After that, I would have gotten the hell out of Dodge. Go to POP for the rest of your vacation, or anywhere else really.
Your missed chance was to leave that night. You had already earned the reputation as a mark and can never shake that.
Anyway, sorry it didnt go so well.
Best wishes.
[QUOTE=Riverm]Thirty minutes later, I hear a knock on my door: "The tourist police are downstairs. " The two chicas are accompanied by a quiet policeman in a white shirt and a loud-mouth dressed in civilian clothes. He says that I have to pay the chicas $120. I don't speak Spanish, and he refused to say anything in English. The hotel worker (a very nice European fellow) explained to me that I would have to spend a night in a Dominican Republic jail if I did not fork up the $120. I refused. I asked for the loudmouth's police identification. He had none. This fact emboldened the hotel worker to state that there was no way that I had to go to the police station at midnight. The two Hotel Europa guard with their rifles surrounded the hotel worker. The chicas threatened the hotel worker.
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[QUOTE=Marzo]Sorry things went so badly. Sounds like a drag.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all of that, but perhaps if another reader finds himself in this situation -- never, ever trust the police and avoid them at all costs. When complete avoidance isnt possible, bribe them and radically change your locale.
Perhaps you could have bribed the policeman (the silent one in uniform) from the get-go. After that, I would have gotten the hell out of Dodge. Go to POP for the rest of your vacation, or anywhere else really.[/QUOTE]Marzo, thanks for your post. In retrospect, maybe I should have checked out that night and gone to POP. I did think of that in the middle of the night, when I couldn't go to sleep. But I decided not to because I was afraid that they would catch me at the airport on the way out of the country. The hotel had my name and passport number, and the police could have forced them to reveal it. The worst thing besides being beaten up (worse than losing the $600 I had) would have been to miss my flight. I was there on a long weekend, and for many reasons I had to be back at work. I don't know: would the Sosua tourist police communicate effectively with the airport exit security people? So I decided I would stick it out and make sure it was resolved somehow before my flight.
I have never bribed anyone in my life: call me naive, that's OK. My fear of bribing is that some sadist could incarcerate me for offering a bribe. I'm probably wrong there -- a matter of inexperience.
I think most guys would have caved in and paid the $80 (or maybe they were demanding $120 and denying I'd already given them $40) at midnight. There were people all around urging me to do so. I am stubborn, and I refused. I got out of the situation by paying only $60 the next day. That is $100 totally wasted, but it could have been a lot worse. There was some satisfaction in knowing that the two chicas had probably been giving their bribes, butts, and mouths all night to all these cops, just to get them to chase me down the next day. The chicas certainly looked tired!
Also I think I was lucky to get Elizabeth out of the room for only 1,000 pesos the next day. She could have scammed me for worse.
Overall, I lost $133 dollars on these two scams -- I've lost more on a Niagara Falls hooker. My guess is that many of us get ripped off one time or another, even though some of us might be too macho to admit it. The biggest problem was not the money. The biggest problem was a fear of what could happen if things escalate. What if the capitan had always dreamed of sticking a club up some gringo's butt? What if something might happen for me to miss my plane?
I need to make a correction to my post, and I can't see an edit button. Elizabeth did not work at Meringue -- rather it was another large bar down the street just a little from Meringue, toward the hotel. The bar is on the intersection of Pedro Clisante and the side street that comes from the tourist police station. Please be warned about this very clever and manipulative con artist.
I posted this to help guys understand what could happen to them. How many other guys have had similar experiences but not posted them? I have enough experience to know that there are some people who will kick you when you are down. That's just one of the things that happen on these kinds of Boards.
Anyway, Marzo, thanks for the comments and thoughtful suggestions. I certainly don't mean to say that everyone should avoid the DR. I do hope you understand why I will not be returning.
I had a similiar experience in Boca Chica but I speak some Spanish, 6'5" and weight in at over 350lbs. These chicas tried to block the door after I paid them the exact sum I had promised, service was poor. They wanted more. I was in some shit hole of a hotel on the main street. I gave them the evil eye, told them no fucking way and said I would call the federalis. I moved them to the side and walked out the door. I saw them all week long on the street. I told everyone including their competitors what pirates they were so the putas wouild starve while I was around.
You have to be street smart with some of these, make certain $ and services are understood and no, no, no money up front.
You are a patient man, I would have found another policeman, bribed him to kick them out of town. Money talks bullshit walks.
By the way, I hate to say this but many times when I bring two in the room the experience is less than what I anticipated because they love to talk to each other. You want a fantasy and they want to bs.
What hotels are recommended in Sosua. I am looking for beach access, privacy, and a all around nice place. Would like to keep it under $50. thanks
They will lie, cheat and steal for your money.
I also had a Boca Chica girl try to extort money by telling me she would call the police.
Most of the Santo Domingo girls all call on their cell phones and then lie, saying they must go early and not todo las noches, their baby has a fever, blah blah blah.
This is why I would not pay a DR girl for TLN, unless it is at Blackbeards - they have some control over the girls and get rid of the problem girls.
Colombian girls, on the other hand, will stay TLN if you pay them TLN. Most of them prefer to spend the night in a nice hotel room and enjoy the company.
DR girls are different, street smart thiefs. I am not fond of NYC, so I think of them as NYer types.
[QUOTE=Mose]By the way, I hate to say this but many times when I bring two in the room the experience is less than what I anticipated because they love to talk to each other. You want a fantasy and they want to bs.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I was going to post. My biggest mistake was in contracting with two total unknowns. They were gorgeous and 18: the cutest chicas I saw over three days. But one of them was stand-offish right from the beginning. She was giving me all the signals that usually tell me to stay away. But the other one was apparently warm and friendly, with a little jiggling of her very well-developed tits -- these were truly outstanding tits. So I was thinking with the little head. Once they were in the room, it was talk, talk, talk. Clearly they had never done a threesome and the quiet one was uncomfortable being naked and sexual in front of her friend. After a few minutes she persuaded the other to call it quits.
I think it is unlikely that either of them would have gone to the police if alone. But they took strength from each other, and they could corroborate each other's stories.
Mose, like you, I got them out of my room without over-paying. But what would you have done if they had gone to this loud-mouth guy who specializes in representing chicas, bribing police, and intimidation? Your size would not help you.
So, in hindsight, I screwed up at the start, right in the interview. And from there, everything had a predictability to it.
I've had some great threesomes in Costa Rica and Buenos Aires, and I've had some mediocre ones. The great experiences occurred only after I had already spent quality time with one of the chicas, who then helped me arrange the threesome with someone she had already worked with.
Riverm,
First let me thank you and commend you for posting exactly what happened to you on your recent trip. Alot of guys on this board have gotten scammed and flim-flammed in the DR but they like to present themselves on this board as "tough-ass, street-smart" mongers so they never, ever post anything about it.
Welcome to the world of the oldest scam in the world - "two brothers and a stranger" The girls probably knew exactly what they were going to do when they got back to your room, they knew exactly how you were likely to react and when they told you they were going to leave, then when they called the local poice they KNEW EXACTLY who was going to respond to their complaint.
Dígame, the big mouth plain-clothes police officer - was he the girls brother, cousin, uncle? What do you think? ;)
What can you do in the future?
1st, Learn Spanish, this is crucial.
2nd, Do what Marzo said, consider bribing the legitimate policeman. I've done this in the past, but then again I can speak Spanish so there is no misunderstanding exactly what the money is for. If you can't speak any Spanish and you hand a cop $40, he might just put it in his pocket and smile and you'll still be in the same situation you were before. He'll think its a union donation! (lol) :)
Finally, I agree with NPaul1. Maybe its time you consider changing your entire "latitude" I hate to make generalities but I have found Colombian women to be much more agreeable and "business" honest as a general rule. Whether its in Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama or where Dominicanas and Colombianas compete head-to-head in places like Curacao, Aruba or St Marteen - I have found Colombianas to be a cut above their competition.
(of course you'll need Spanish in these places too)
sorry to hear about the problems with you recent trip, :(
FORD
18 years old and cute, give me some names and if possible describe them. Where did they hang out? I will be there in a few weeks and would like to talk trash with them. Better yet tell the other putas that these putas are going to drive their business out of town if they keep it up. I did that in BC. I am serious. After my experience in Boca Chica I found a massage parlor/puta house that was just so, so, checked another accross from my hotel and had the best service, balls to the wall you name it. She even wanted to do bbanal after a while but I was sober and thought otherwise.
Unfortuately every ones findings are the same, you have to be more careful in the DR. As as to quality, the Colombians that you meet in Curasao at Campo Allegre are some of the best gf sex ever.
Mongers need to stick together and let the locals know when they cross the line.
[QUOTE=Ford]Riverm,
Dígame, the big mouth plain-clothes police officer - was he the girls brother, cousin, uncle? What do you think? ;)
He had a big mouth, and the uniformed officer did everything he told him to do. But he had no police identification. I think the guy does this for a living, and the chicas call on him. He is well-known at the Hotel Europa. The nice European guy working behind the desk said that the hotel owner (out of town at the time) had encountered him before and knew that he is very corrupt.
Mose, I picked up the girls in Merengue as they strolled around the bar. Gorgeous girls, one taller and slim, the other with large breasts but still not at all fat. The taller one was Wendy (actually on her cedula, and there can't be too many Wendy's in Sosua, can there?), and the shorter one was called Rosie, but her actual name is Carmen Rosa. My hunch is that I would have had a good time with Rosie if I had taken her alone, but trying to do the two chicas together was a fatal error.
Can some one help me out on places to stay.
Looking for beach and clean room.
Thanks
Overall experiece at the New Garden was good. I do like the Europa rooms itself in that they are large , big bed, electronic safe, location. The pool at the Europa sucks and is dirty. The New Garden hotel had some really good guys I met there. The pool was very nice and kept clean even though it didn't really go more than about 5 feeet deap. There is plenty of room on the property grounds which would make for a great hot tub.
Beers are 70 pesos which is kinda on the high end for a Hotel. What everyone was doing was just going right outside the Hotel to the bogee and buying them in "6" packs and putting the beers in the room fridge. If the owner lowered the price of beers to 50 pesos he most likly would sell alot more. Guys rather walk right outside and pay 35 pesos over 70 pesos a beer.
There was a security guard with pisola from 6pm to 6am and i had no problem with him.
On any given day there were about 2 to 7 chicas hanging out at the bar and pool area. i didn't use their services however it's nice to look at while you're chilin at the pool .
The room was a little smaller than the Eoropa's room. Room was clean with 2 beds, cable tv that worked, ceiling fan , and AC unit that worked very well. I was on the 2nd floor so I had a nice balcony over looking the pool. Bathroom toilet flushed well. Did NOT stuff up toloit once !! Shower stall is very small and water presure was average.
In order to turn on the AC unit in the room you must use your room key to turn it on. So there is no way to leave the AC on when you leave the room. Save energy I guess. The thing I don't like about that is that you must now leave the room key in the wall out in the open when a chica stays over. Somthing I don't like. If your sleeping , A Zankie pankie chica can take the key and split. There is a room safe too which was like $2 extra a day with a sepeate key. I like the Europas safe better since it's electronic and you only have to rember a #. With a "key" safe you always have to rember to hide the key when the chica goes to the bathroom. What i do is make the chica wait outside , I go in hide the key then let the chica in.
What is up with the key chain the garden hotel gives you??? thing is huge and is solid steel. pain in the ass to drag around if you go to the beach.
Still 1am cerfew on weekdays and 2am weekends. Kinda sucks.
I would stay at the Garden Hotel and i recommend it highly. Just A few minor changes would make it that much better
where is the Garden Hotel located at exactly? Are they strict about bringing in chicas? How much are the rooms? How far from the action? Do all the chicas need cedulas? What is there telephone number? Were you there recently?
[url]http://www.newgardenhotel.net/eng/default.htm[/url]
I haven't stayed there, but I checked it out when I was there in September. It seemed nice enough, rooms on a par with the Europa, though smaller and no in-room coffee. The courtyard/pool area was more attractive than Europa, I think.
It's on Dr. Rosen, a little bit farther down from Pedro Clisante than Rocky's and just a block or so from Classico and Sosua Life. Good location.
I was quoted $40/day for one person and $50/day for two, so there may be a $10 chica fee. Gutter Meat can probably clear that up.
It used to be called the Garden Keti.
Does anyone know the tel number or website to this Hotel/Apartments/Condos? It's a beautiful place about 2 min moto concho ride from let say Clasicos. Thanks for any help.