Stupid Shit in Brazil

Non stop have girls been asking me for tips after already paying them and fucking them. Got asked this in 4 x4, Perola Negra, Monte Carlo, and in the other Centro terma. They are asking as if they are used to getting tips although the reality is no South American even knows what a tip is.

Please stop tipping the girls because you could ruin it for the rest of us. Tipping her isn't going to make her like you more. Of all things, being firm but respectful of the fact that you paid already will make her respect you more (which gets you better outcomes).

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2855028]I speak porto after a fashion.

It is just the days on end, like 4 days a week with a 20 or 21 year old where she wants to listen to only brazilian music or watch a brazilian novella series all fkn day long that I have to put the headset on and rock some springsteen or listen to english youtube.[/QUOTE]You've been in Brazil for 1300 days which is 3. 5 years.

You should be way above "after a fashion" level of porto.

If you were in Brazil for 3 months I would understand that level but 3. 5 years is stereotype american gringo level.

I know a british guy who moved to Brazil 4 years ago, is married and lives in rio and has great porto skills.

I also know a venezuela girl who grew up speaking spanish, moved to Canada to work and learned english, got stuck in Brazil during covid and stayed and made a business and learned porto fluently in 2 years so it is very doable to learn porto especially in a country with very friendly locals.

So I would not use felipe rat to learn porto because clearly it aint done ya nuthing two gud (look I'm using kodak black to learn English!

Also you came to her country.

Thats what they do.

Shit even in the united states the same 20/21 girl is listening to rap and watching another serial killer series.

Same shit.

That's why I go for girls 25-29.

I'm in my 20's and I fucking hate being around 19-21 yr girls.

[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2855299]Non stop have girls been asking me for tips after already paying them and fucking them. Got asked this in 4 x4, Perola Negra, Monte Carlo, and in the other Centro terma. They are asking as if they are used to getting tips although the reality is no South American even knows what a tip is.

Please stop tipping the girls because you could ruin it for the rest of us. Tipping her isn't going to make her like you more. Of all things, being firm but respectful of the fact that you paid already will make her respect you more (which gets you better outcomes).[/QUOTE]Tipping is for the birds as my good friend mr. Pink would say.

If you want to "tip" the girl then call her over another night or have her stay overnight and pay her a little something something for that extra time so it's not a tip.

Always make it transactional.

If you just tip her then she loses respect for you as a man.

The amount of girls I have hooked up with and trashed and made fun of her gringo suitors is crazy.

They see it as simp behavior and treat it as such.

The local brazilians would never do that and if they could do so, wouldn't.

This society is very macho and the girls respect that rule.

If you're really good, they'll come over just to fuck and hang out. They don't have to but they want to.

They don't care about you so don't worry about it.

Once you open that box, she's going to have a sick mom, a dead dad and a dog with cancer all in one week and you're mr. Banks.

Treat them with respect, wash your body and your teeth and pay her what she is due and keep it at that.

It's all true.

I am a cultural imperialist, and Ugly American as the Americans say or an Ugly Suisse, I want the hoar to speak the good diplomatic and financial English I learned while running dictator money on the shores of Lake Geneva.

Yes, I dream about coming to South Central LA, buying a big house from a judge in Manhattan Beach and fuckin up the 'hood with hoars from the streets of Figuroa and Normandie, with their negra asses hanging out on the front lawn amid all the patricinhas and patricios, offering to suck judge's dicks for 70 brazilian reais, but only if the judge pays in Reais and if the judge wears a vasco the gama shirt.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855355]You've been in Brazil for 1300 days which is 3. 5 years.

You should be way above "after a fashion" level of porto.

If you were in Brazil for 3 months I would understand that level but 3. 5 years is stereotype american gringo level.

I know a british guy who moved to Brazil 4 years ago, is married and lives in rio and has great porto skills.

I also know a venezuela girl who grew up speaking spanish, moved to Canada to work and learned english, got stuck in Brazil during covid and stayed and made a business and learned porto fluently in 2 years so it is very doable to learn porto especially in a country with very friendly locals.

So I would not use felipe rat to learn porto because clearly it aint done ya nuthing two gud (look I'm using kodak black to learn English!

Also you came to her country.

Thats what they do.

Shit even in the united states the same 20/21 girl is listening to rap and watching another serial killer series.

Same shit.

That's why I go for girls 25-29.

I'm in my 20's and I fucking hate being around 19-21 yr girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855358]If you just tip her then she loses respect for you as a man. The amount of girls I have hooked up with and trashed and made fun of her gringo suitors is crazy. They see it as simp behavior and treat it as such..[/QUOTE]What does a person gain by having the respect of a hooker? What does one lose by not having the respect of a hooker? How do you know they are not making fun of you about something to the next person? Why would you care if they were?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2855490]What does a person gain by having the respect of a hooker? What does one lose by not having the respect of a hooker? How do you know they are not making fun of you about something to the next person? Why would you care if they were?[/QUOTE]What I was saying is that if you give her $20 (100 brl) or whatever she loses respect for you.

If you don't give her anything she will or will not but doesn't matter because you still have your money.

I literally said in my last post that they don't care about you and so don't worry about tipping or not.

If they like you they'll come over and just fuck. I've had that happen a good amount of time and so have many others but if you tip her she's always going to expect money with each and every meeting and not see you as a good fuck. It's a nice bonus but you fuck it up by giving her money for nothing.

Don't export the worse part of the US to this fertile land.

Just had friends come back from Japan and Italy and they loved how they didn't have to tip and got amazing service everywhere because that's how things are supposed to work!

Once they landed back in the ol USA their first meal had an automatic gratuity fee added and a suggested 25% tip for the server.

Stop. Tipping.

Just stop.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855570] ... Don't export the worse part of the US to this fertile land. [/QUOTE] Agreed, wholeheartedly!

But unfortunately...INEVITABLE! Take the recent copycat "Trumpian J6" style Brazilian coup/riots, on their parliament, for example. Arguably, some might say that "ugliness" is already here, in Brazil, and on full display.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855570]Just had friends come back from Japan and Italy and they loved how they didn't have to tip and got amazing service everywhere because that's how things are supposed to work!

Once they landed back in the ol USA their first meal had an automatic gratuity fee added and a suggested 25% tip for the server. ... [/QUOTE]

Well, not to get deep into the weeds, but this is the ugly side of capitalism. When the employers won't pay their employees a working wage/salary and turn to the customers to supplement their employees salaries, then this is what you get.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2855581]Well, not to get deep into the weeds, but this is the ugly side of capitalism. When the employers won't pay their employees a working wage/salary and turn to the customers to supplement their employees salaries, then this is what you get.[/QUOTE]Yeah, like when DoorDash and Uber Eats try to impose outrageous tips! Instead of paying their drivers a decent wage, they try to gouge the customer. Nope! I always change the tip to something reasonable rather than the 30% DoorDash will try to screw you with. They're not going to pay their employees by gouging me!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2855581]Well, not to get deep into the weeds, but this is the ugly side of capitalism. When the employers won't pay their employees a working wage/salary and turn to the customers to supplement their employees salaries, then this is what you get.[/QUOTE]What did the employees do to earn a working wage? Do they just automatically deserve this because they are adults, or did they do something to make themselves more marketable in order to be able to earn more? I busted my ass in school to make sure I would not have to worry about being able to get a working wage. Should people that only growed up and showed up be entitled to the same?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2855587]What did the employees do to earn a working wage? Do they just automatically deserve this because they are adults, or did they do something to make themselves more marketable in order to be able to earn more? I busted my ass in school to make sure I would not have to worry about being able to get a working wage. Should people that only growed up and showed up be entitled to the same?[/QUOTE]Well in this case where spidy discuss this topic he's refering to the restaurant business and how the staff are given a normal salary but are instead paid 3-4 $ an hour and rely on tips to get paid the rest of their salary.

Could you imagine going to bestbuy and asking an employee a question or to ring you up and after the sale they ask for a tip.

That can kindly fuck off.

I pay for my TV. Thats it.

I don't pay the bestbuy guys salary.

I pay for my burger.

Not a fucking employees wage.

Charge me $2 more for the burger instead of making me pay 30% tip.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2855472]It's all true.

I am a cultural imperialist, and Ugly American as the Americans say or an Ugly Suisse, I want the hoar to speak the good diplomatic and financial English I learned while running dictator money on the shores of Lake Geneva.

Yes, I dream about coming to South Central LA, buying a big house from a judge in Manhattan Beach and fuckin up the 'hood with hoars from the streets of Figuroa and Normandie, with their negra asses hanging out on the front lawn amid all the patricinhas and patricios, offering to suck judge's dicks for 70 brazilian reais, but only if the judge pays in Reais and if the judge wears a vasco the gama shirt.[/QUOTE]You sir are not a cultural imperialist.

You wear a vasco de gama shirt.

I wear a TEAM USA shirt down the streets of copa.

You live in the Brazil.

I pillage and loot the lands of SP and RJ and go back to the empire.

You hesitate to let the cariocas know you are an american while looking like an average gringo american.

I proudly boast of my amerrican identity while looking like a south american to let them know we are not the same.

I recall you shaking in your sandals to speak english in centro.

I spoke the king's english with my american mercenary brothers in arms at full volume.

You carry a knife and taser.

I carry a 24 K gold plated 45 ACP 1911.

You've been gone so long you forgot what a cultural imperialist is.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2855585]Yeah, like when DoorDash and Uber Eats try to impose outrageous tips! Instead of paying their drivers a decent wage, they try to gouge the customer. Nope! I always change the tip to something reasonable rather than the [b]30% DoorDash[/b] will try to screw you with. They're not going to pay their employees by gouging me![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2855661]Well in this case where spidy discuss this topic he's refering to the restaurant business and how the staff are given a normal salary but are instead paid 3-4 $ an hour and rely on tips to get paid the rest of their salary.

[b]Could you imagine going to bestbuy[/b] and asking an employee a question or to ring you up and after the sale they ask for a tip.

That can kindly fuck off.

I pay for my TV. Thats it.
I don't pay the bestbuy guys salary.
I pay for my burger.
Not a fucking employees wage.

Charge me $2 more for the burger [b]instead of making me pay 30% tip.[/b][/QUOTE] Yep, that's just 30% bonkers and 100% bat-shit crazy thinking, right there. I fear though that that [b]"30% thinking"[/b], is becoming way too normalized these days.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2855587][b]What did the employees do to earn a working wage?[/b] Do they just automatically deserve this because they are adults, or did they do something to make themselves more marketable in order to be able to earn more? I busted my ass in school to make sure I would not have to worry about being able to get a working wage. Should people that only growed up and showed up be entitled to the same? [/QUOTE]Good question.

As best as I can answer that question, I personally don't think employees, have to do anything (other than fight/lobby for the right to get a living wage). I think it just behooves businesses/employers to provide a living wage/salary.

My personal take, is that when workers earn a living wage/salary, it promotes and fosters, better engaged employees, better wellness in employees and ultimately better for the business and by extension, a better, just, fair and more inclusive society.

Busting your ass in school (as with most things in life), is always a good idea and helps to smooth out life's wrinkles. But it would seem we aren't all cut from the same cloth and don't all walk the same path in life and lord knows, life is full of surprises and wrinkles.

IMHO in the end, I guess it's more of [b]a moral issue[/b] than anything.
The simple answer is...I think it just comes down to, [b]"DO THE RIGHT THING".[/b]

[u]So let me ask you a set of questions in the same moral vein:[/u]
[b]Q.[/b] What did slaves do to earn their freedom?

So I imagine a number of bigoted/racist plantation owners (back-in-the-day for example) would have argued; aren't my slaves feed, clothed and sheltered for their labour and shouldn't that be enough for them to live out their days? So why would I ruin my plantation business and grant them their freedom?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2855932]...The simple answer is...I think it just comes down to, [b]"DO THE RIGHT THING".[/b]...[/QUOTE]There is an element of scam involved in some places. I just looked it up. For example, Washington and California don't allow tipping wage but the same thing still happens. In theory, when the price has been increased, the tip will increase too, then why increase the percentage?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2855932]As best as I can answer that question, I personally don't think employees, have to do anything. I think it just behooves businesses/employers to provide a living wage/salary.

My personal take, is that when workers earn a living wage/salary, it promotes and fosters, better engaged employees, better wellness in employees and ultimately better for the business and by extension, a better, just, fair and more inclusive society.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah in fantasyland. We make a hell of a lot more than a living wage on my job and I can tell you that none of that shit is true. Better wellness? Most people have FMLA and can not work whenever they feel like it.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2855932][u]So let me ask you a set of questions in the same moral vein:[/u]
[b]Q.[/b] What did slaves do to earn their freedom?

So I imagine a number of bigoted/racist plantation owners (back-in-the-day for example) would have argued; aren't my slaves feed, clothed and sheltered for their labour and shouldn't that be enough for them to live out their days? So why would I ruin my plantation business and grant them their freedom?[/QUOTE]In the USA they did not do anything to earn freedom. There were just a bunch of White people that felt sorry and said this needs to stop. If not for those people called abolitionists, the USA would still be as other countries in the world that still have slavery. I do not think it was that the plantation owners were bigoted or racist. They were in it for the money. Remember they tried the same stuff with the natives and the indentured workers from their own motherlands, but it did not worked as they hoped.

Now the slaves in Haiti did not earn any freedom either. They fucking took it. Marching gets you nothing except a worn out pair of shoes.