Manila

[QUOTE=Billpsu]What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up, Bill. I've been meaning to try the place for ages, in view of the positive reviews that the place have received, but will probably now give the place a swerve.

It would immediately put me in a cranky mood with the apparent unhelpfulness of the papasans and the payment demand in the CR for what should be a complementary towel. And the 1200% mark up on the pineapple juice would really get me spitting feathers. Why is it always the case that greed now rather than a longer term view of customer care, is always the keynote in these sort of places in The Philippines? Their business plan is screw the maximum from their customers whilst offering the minimum possible service and fuck the repeat business.

Best to visit either China and Thailand if you are really into the genuine massage parlor experience. There you get the real deal at reasonable, non rip off prices.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]First, I have been to high end places before and do not mind paying for good service, however, from the very begining this gal was extremely unfriendly.

Second, never had the chance to turn her down, she just headed for the door, pronto, after the massage.

Thirdly, I am not in Angeles.[/QUOTE]Billpsu,

I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.

I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.

Fast Eddie 48

I have always found myself disappointed when arriving in manila without preparation and just intending to find a hot woman just from bar-hopping.

The bar-hopping method is a bit of a miss because the girls may look great but you end up paying a fortune for something a bit rushed and not as good in the sack as they are in looks in the bar.

I have found using chat sites a better bet as you can sort of suss out if the girls are in it for fun and have the right attitude.

The other avenue is just to hang out at the right malls at the right time.

Its clearer so you can see how attractive the girl really is and you have more time to chat her up and size up her attitude.

Had the best fun that way.

Others on the forum can advise you on the best pick up malls.

Again, I do treat myself sometimes and go high end, I just don't know what happened.

Also make it a point to act like a gentleman, sometimes to the point of being effusive, goes a long way her. I just would't want someone else to take that long cab ride (staying at the Hyatt) for nothing.

I have been to Thailand and their massage service is to die for. I fell hard for one gal. Belive it or not, she was 34, but had the body of a 20 year old.

Will be returning there (Thailand) in August.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Billpsu,

I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.

I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Devils 1]I am really surprised to hear this. I have been several times and know many people who had great experiences there. I for one will stake my reputation on it.

One time I had a girl there that absolutely refused to let me leave without blowing a 2nd nut. She tore the condom off after I had been nailing her for about 30 mins and said I will give you a BJ until you come no matter how long it takes![/QUOTE]Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.

My last comment on this subject - you have been warned.

[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.[/QUOTE]

Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?

Thinking about going before I leave town.

Thank you.

This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.

-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."

It would appear to me the essencene of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decsion on where to spend his mongering dollar.

Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.


[QUOTE=Key Master]This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.[/QUOTE]

Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."

Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.

Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.

In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.

The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.

You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.

One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.

One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.

Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.

Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."

Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.

Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.

In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.

The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.

You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.

One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.

One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.

Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.

Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.[/QUOTE]

Bill enjoyed your reports. Some guys never have a bad time. I believe that like I would believe a drug addict when he or she says they will pay you back later. I appreciate the guys who report the good with the bad.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?

Thinking about going before I leave town.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.

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Robb

The magic of LA Café, as astute members have previously pointed out, is the anticipation of not knowing what hidden gems you will find when you cross its portals. One thing is for sure is that, apart from the old regular faces, both male and female, there will be always be a bunch of new girls to appraise, every time you visit. Like many an expat Manila resident, my ‘little black book’ is so full of the CP numbers of so many potentials and dead certs, that the real need to use the place is redundant. However, I still like to visit at least once or twice a month and get a real buzz of expectation every time I enter the place. I have met some amazing women in that seedy shit hole.

The thing about LA Cafe is patience, timing and a little slice of luck. The place can be hopelessly full of skanks one moment, but if you leave and return a couple of hours later, it might have undergone an amazing transformation and is now heaving with the fit, young bodies of lovely Pinays. This has happened to me times without number and I assure you that it was not the SML’s that I had drank in the meantime:D. It is simply the mechanics of the place. Many of the girls who visit LA Café are initially introduced by a friend and may have little or no prior experience of P4P. I’ve met so many of this type. They may visit just the once and that’s enough for them, or a few times and are seen no more or become a regular. But one thing characterizes this type of girl and that is that they are initially more backward at coming forward with a potential customer and so you are the one who have to make the running. I have found that those girls who make the initial approach are the more hardened LA pro’s so I tend, these days, to discount this type. So I look to hunt in the darker nooks and crannies where the shyer newbies hang out. Or they are the ones who are wandering around distractedly, as though looking for a lost mate. Making eye contact and smiling will usually bring them out of their shells and over to your side, unless they have ‘For East Asian Use Only’ stamped on their foreheads;). But there are no certainties with LA Café and I have left the place disappointed and alone (or with a less attractive compromise) nearly as many times as I have with a babe.

One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.

There is a scam going on where girls put their hands all over you, hug you, etc., then plant drugs on you. They work with police, who then arrest you, and, well, you know the rest. Security at a hotel told me about this because it happened to one of the hotel guests....so be careful.

Thank you very much.

By the way, great report.

[QUOTE=Robbaf]I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.

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Robb[/QUOTE]