Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2868058]Of course that's not what I pay, I think by now every body knows I refuse to overpay.

I said 5000 baht because you already paid that amount for LT in 2021, in the middle of the pandemic. I think it's fair to think someone who gladly overpaid when the girls were in trouble getting customers is still overpaying when these same girls are trying to jack up the prices. I could even have said 10000 given you're ready to pend 25000 in another venue and get little in exchange.

The problem with going the direct path as you suggested is that in my experience it always led to the girls quoting higher than normal prices, and almost all the time they were not even open to negotiation which is a no go for me. That's why I prefer they make a genuine move to attract me before I try my luck with them.[/QUOTE]5000 was LT mate and it was not a normal LT. We were talking about short time right? Anyways, crack on mate and continue walking up and down Soi 6 until you find your dream girl that gives it up for 500 Baht ST. In the meantime, the rest of us will be having fun and not thinking so much. Who wants to come to Patttaya for that? To each their own I guess.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867992]Thank you for your most enlightened response to our expert on "Pattaya Pattaya / Bangkok Price and Appearance". We get many of them and the ones where he is not targeting me might be helpful to some people. They are not helpful to me. I am not a bar guy. But if he really thinks price is important he should welcome information on prices from everyone as you have pointed out everyone has different price points and every prostitutes has different amounts they will take. I have always interpreted a high price as indication from the prostitute that she does not really want to be with me.

As an example, I girl from Thai Friendly that I thought was a 800 girl wanted 1700. Caught me off guard. I just kept scrolling. But I looked back at her pictures again and realized that she had the kind of face, complexion and body style that a certain other demographic finds appealing. I look at who other guys are talking to are escorting and I am beginning to see the different type of Thai girls with a more refined eye. I am not understanding quite vividly that there is no universal standard of beauty for each individual man.
[/QUOTE]That's a good post as long as you don't criticize others for paying more because you think it will spoil the market for other who make a point of not paying more than a certain amount. Hopefully there is no double standard. For me, I pay what I pay so I can get a certain type of experience and I don't like to negotiate otherwise it ruins the mood. So, If I want PST with GFE style, and multiple pops with a spinner, Ill pay what I want so the girl does not have a chance of saying no or, making a counter offer. To me that's nest for me. Nobody has a right to tell me how to spend my money either. So, I like your idea with no double standard.

[QUOTE=Mooris7;2867747]How is Pattaya these days. Are the prices still affordable. On my way back to Thailand in 2 weeks.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RajPatela;2867885]This is why I constantly Harp on the Price issue. It what guys want to know.

One guy says 1,000 and you In Paradise.

The rest of us will say No Way Jose.

Who is right. It's not Debatable. LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know what Raj is going on about. I think I can answer your question without causing another price debate over the girls. Hotels seem to be more expensive compared to before covid times. Food and drinks seem to have stayed at the same rates or even cheaper as there is tons of competition. As for the price of the girls, Thai Friendly girls can rage anywhere from 1000-2000ST so that has not really changed too much. Go Go bars on walking street have increased their prices substantially to make up for the money they lost during covid, including the girls, and the prices to rent condos fluctuates so much. From below market value if you start your rental contract during low season to above market value presently because it's just the beginning of high season. Landlords also want to make up for their lost revenue from during covid when their condos were vacant or rented out at heavily discounted rates. My 120 M2 condo in Pratamnak cost me 13,000 Baht per month during covid. I am now at 17,000 baht and the owner wanted 22,000-25,000 Baht. I just assured him I would not moving from here and would stay for at least 5 more years. I got lucky as most places this size AR going for over 20 K baht per month. They will now insist on 2 months deposit again. The cost of Bolt taxis seems to have just gone up slightly and that is the preferred app to use in Pattaya. Grab is better in Bangkok and more expensive to use in Pattaya. Don't get caught up with the price police on here. Pay the girls what you want. Whatever makes you happy and gets you what you want and who you want.

One last thing, many girls are coming out of relationships with guys that helped them during covid. The girls were accepting less from them as expats here as they had no choice. Now that we are heading into the first real high season since covid, there are plenty of single Thai girls back in the game. There are tons and tons of girls in Pattaya now and still not enough punters. You will have a great time. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2867927]Food, accommodation, and the ladies. Thought it was a pretty clear question big boy.[/QUOTE]With such a broad question, you're better off reading back on the forums. It could takes pages going over ladies, hotels and food.

Does anyone have a favorite Soi 6 bar? I seems to find the girls shuffle from bar to bar and most are all set up the same. Therefore, it's difficult to choose one or two favorites. However, Toy Box seems to have a constant line up of the same girls.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2867251]I have been accused of overpaying and underpaying. I am highly aware of the former as I feel it a crime to my fellow p4 p mates that we keep the playing field even so that there is always a decent supply / demand value market. I saw Pattaya 1st hand for several weeks in Oct and I'm back today, where bar after bar had 10-12-20 girls and only 3 or 4 punters yet said bars wanted 2 k Baht BF rates early in the evening, even 1 k at 11 pm. What business would I be taking if I took 1 girl and the other 3 blokes took 3 girls at an early hour. There would still be 10-15 girls and now no punters and the bar would at least have some $ for their troubles.

This trip I am paying a super hot TF big bazzoka model type 10 k for day / night with other, and as low as 1200 for a beautiful former bar girl for 2 hours. Most TF ladies were quoting me 3 k for 1 pop up to a week ago and now many are 1200-1500ST, 2500 LT etc. I tell the overyhyped 3 k ladies that they're simply not attractive enough and there will be zero business for them unless they get down to market rates. I keep telling them each and every time one tells me she wants 3 k ST, 7 K LT.

Yet I am going to pay one lady 10 k for around 36 hours.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Where did you find the hottie in the picture? What is TF ladies?

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868085]I don't know what Raj is going on about. I think I can answer your question without causing another price debate over the girls. Hotels seem to be more expensive compared to before covid times. Food and drinks seem to have stayed at the same rates or even cheaper as there is tons of competition. As for the price of the girls, Thai Friendly girls can rage anywhere from 1000-2000ST so that has not really changed too much. Go Go bars on walking street have increased their prices substantially to make up for the money they lost during covid, including the girls, and the prices to rent condos fluctuates so much. From below market value if you start your rental contract during low season to above market value presently because it's just the beginning of high season. Landlords also want to make up for their lost revenue from during covid when their condos were vacant or rented out at heavily discounted rates. My 120 M2 condo in Pratamnak cost me 13,000 Baht per month during covid. I am now at 17,000 baht and the owner wanted 22,000-25,000 Baht. I just assured him I would not moving from here and would stay for at least 5 more years. I got lucky as most places this size AR going for over 20 K baht per month. They will now insist on 2 months deposit again. The cost of Bolt taxis seems to have just gone up slightly and that is the preferred app to use in Pattaya. Grab is better in Bangkok and more expensive to use in Pattaya. Don't get caught up with the price police on here. Pay the girls what you want. Whatever makes you happy and gets you what you want and who you want.

One last thing, many girls are coming out of relationships with guys that helped them during covid. The girls were accepting less from them as expats here as they had no choice. Now that we are heading into the first real high season since covid, there are plenty of single Thai girls back in the game. There are tons and tons of girls in Pattaya now and still not enough punters. You will have a great time. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to be real.

Hotel prices have not gone up. Pattaya is Begging for Tourist s.

Condo pricing per others have not gone up either. All I hear is Bargains up the REAR end. LOL.

Try this.

It's not enough to give only prices you need to associate with quality.

1,ooo ish, I'm including up to. 1,199 baht. There is no YMMV, you are getting bottom of the Barrel Girls. Drugs, Diseased, Nasty, Ugly Muglies.

Above 1,199.

Your mileage may vary. I've seen Ugly Muglies go for 3,000. Not often but it happens.

Again there is nothing wrong liking Uglie, Muglies, etc. I'm glad they get Business. It help the ecosystem.

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2868164]Where did you find the hottie in the picture? What is TF ladies?[/QUOTE]Thai Friendly = TF.

Lovely girl, true PSE, worth every Baht over 36 hours.

To [URL]sub.com[/URL]mandeer.

Your thoughts on changing that main street in Treetown to one way.

I visited the new Made in Thailand complex last. A lady I knew years ago told me she started work there at 20.00, so I went to find her.

There are an amazing number of bars there, so trying to find one bargirl is like the proverbial needle in a haystack. And at 20.00, there just weren't many customers, which means that that a single guy walking around was like raw meat for hungry pitbulls. After a while, the attention from bargirls got annoying. Now I know how a bargirl feels walking through flocks of moto drivers offering themselves to her.

Eventually I found her bar, but she wasn't there. On Messenger, she told me she was coming Real Soon Now. Which meant she had a customer, or was with a boyfriend. I ordered a drink, waited 30 minutes, and then was so irritated I went home. I should have ensured she was in the bar before going there.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2868181]I visited the new Made in Thailand complex last. A lady I knew years ago told me she started work there at 20.00, so I went to find her.

There are an amazing number of bars there, so trying to find one bargirl is like the proverbial needle in a haystack. And at 20.00, there just weren't many customers, which means that that a single guy walking around was like raw meat for hungry pitbulls. After a while, the attention from bargirls got annoying. Now I know how a bargirl feels walking through flocks of moto drivers offering themselves to her.

Eventually I found her bar, but she wasn't there. On Messenger, she told me she was coming Real Soon Now. Which meant she had a customer, or was with a boyfriend. I ordered a drink, waited 30 minutes, and then was so irritated I went home. I should have ensured she was in the bar before going there.[/QUOTE]You Funny Bro it's always she have Customer.

Anyone know if Kenny LGBTQIA in Pattaya was a success.

Having been in Pattaya I didn't even know he was coming. No flyers at Terminal 21 or Central at all. Who is in charge of Marketing?

If I can get somewhere on the Bhat minibus I take it. If I cannot get there directly I will take it and then walk. If I need door to door service I call Bolt. For the amount I spend on just Bol alone I could buy a motorbike. I can afford to buy a motorbike or car. Priced a E-class out at 50,000 USD (how do they do that). They are not that expensive here in Thailand. But, I prefer not to drive. Even though I am poor, I can pay to have people drive me.

[B]Raj Raj[/B], did you know I am up for full commander next year? LOL!

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868180]To sub.commandeer. Your thoughts on changing that main street in Treetown to one way.[/QUOTE]Actually I don't have any. Nor have I paid any attention to it. Why would I care about traffic patterns in Pattaya if I don't drive? Traffic is heavy on Second road due to the construction project where they are tearing up the roads constantly to bury the cables. No progress without pain.

I do like the food court in TreeTown. There is an excellent Mexican food stand where I have tacos and french fries. The manager of the shop even remembers me. I walk down few stalls and get a smoothy. One of my favorite ways to post up is at the bus bar on the corner across from hamburger place and weed shop. [B]Nice try Raj Raj[/B].

Chief of the boat, rig for dive, DIVE, DIVE, DIVE, make your depth six fi-viy feet.

Lots of posts but lots of things happening in Pattaya like Buzzin says. So one Pattaya Soi 6 girl has a Chinese Boy beaten by her 2 thugs the otherday.

Solution. Bring in Chinese Policeman from China to Control the area. What? Area meaning Pattaya and Phuket specific.

This world is going Nuts without Orange Man in Charge.

[B]Man Law 101[/B]: [I]No grown man ought to be telling another grown man how to spend his hard earned money or who he should fuck.[/I].

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868081]That's a good post as long as you don't criticize others for paying more because you think it will spoil the market for other who make a point of not paying more than a certain amount. Hopefully there is no double standard. For me, I pay what I pay so I can get a certain type of experience and I don't like to negotiate otherwise it ruins the mood. So, If I want PST with GFE style, and multiple pops with a spinner, Ill pay what I want so the girl does not have a chance of saying no or, making a counter offer. To me that's nest for me. [b]Nobody has a right to tell me how to spend my money either.[/b] So, I like your idea with no double standard.[/QUOTE]Find my post with a double standard. I am not a Man Law 101 violator. If I have made a post criticizing someone for the amount they pay quote it and make me eat my words. Saying I don't do something is not being critical of another person.

If you have been following my posts I doubt you will find me being critical of what others pay. IRL: I pay for what I want to pay. 400 USD for two tennis racquets; 100 - 200 USD for a wedge or putter; Wagu Steak; Good bottle of bourbon; my iphone. I just don't think it is important to pay a lot for pussy. That is called an opinion.

Here is what I believe: [B]Price alone does not mean that the prostitute your hired is more attractive or performed at a higher quality.[/B] I have been tricking since I was 50 years old. Never needed to before then and my personal believe is that if you are young man you shouldn't be either but times have changed. I get that.

In my experiences price has never been related to the quality of the girl nor her performance world wide. This is Thailand. Thailand has prostitutes. I hire prostitutes in Thailand. My experiences here have been consistent with my opinion.

You pay 2000 to get what you want. I pay 1000 to get what I want. Afterwards we are both happy. Therefore what we each paid our prostitutes is what they are worth to us. If you ask me why I only pay 1000, I will tell you that if I paid 2000 each time after I fucked a prostitute 20 times, I would not have been able to buy my PS5 (1000 x 20 = 20000).

I am not rich and I offer no apologies nor do I have any embarrassment about it. I prefer to "emulate a poor Thai" complete with a gold necklace and pinky ring. I do not care about anyones opinion of me. Especially anyone posting on ISG that I do not know in person. I able to maintain residences around the world hub and spoke style. Precisely because I am living within my means.

[B]What I am critical of are individuals who are going to tell me personally that I am only getting lowest quality girls.[/B] Now if they do this:

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868167]It's not enough to give only prices you need to associate with quality. 1,ooo ish, I'm including up to. 1,199 baht. There is no YMMV, you are getting bottom of the Barrel Girls. Drugs, Diseased, Nasty, Ugly Muglies. Above 1,199. Your mileage may vary. I've seen Ugly Muglies go for 3,000. Not often but it happens. Again there is nothing wrong liking Uglie, Muglies, etc. I'm glad they get Business. It help the ecosystem.[/QUOTE]I am fine with it. He stated his opinion. He did not direct his post at anyone in particular. I understand this is his opinion. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I just don't happen to agree with it. I do not have to.

There have been over a half dozen posts from guys paying girls in the entire range of amounts he specified. His comments about the prostitutes at different price points are his opinion. I repeat his opinion. As long as it is not directed at me. Several individual seem to have a problem up in here with others who do not do things their way.

Opinions should be spoke about the subject not directed at other posters here providing reports and price points. [B]In my opinion[/B], quality has nothing to do with price nor performance in a absolute sense.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868085]Thai Friendly girls can rage anywhere from 1000-2000ST so that has not really changed too much.[/QUOTE]This is an experienced poster and I am a new poster. So, this tells me that 1000 - 2000ST is market price for ThaiFriendly and Beach Road.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868085]Go Go bars on walking street have increased their prices substantially to make up for the money they lost during covid, including the girls, and the prices to rent condos fluctuates so much. From below market value if you start your rental contract during low season to above market value presently because it's just the beginning of high season. Landlords also want to make up for their lost revenue from during covid when their condos were vacant or rented out at heavily discounted rates. My 120 M2 condo in Pratamnak cost me 13,000 Baht per month during covid. I am now at 17,000 baht and the owner wanted 22,000-25,000 Baht. I just assured him I would not moving from here and would stay for at least 5 more years. I got lucky as most places this size AR going for over 20 K baht per month. They will now insist on 2 months deposit again. [/QUOTE]I can verify this just at a different price point. First room I rented in Jomtiem cost me 17,000/ month (48 m2). Was informed that price was going up to 25,000/ month as were headed into high season and that I had to vacate as they had another tenant that was ready. They offered me another room in their inventory. I declined. Walked across the street down one block and got a room for 8000/ month. Small yes, but big enough for me. Plus the owner purchased everything new for me. The location is better (for me). The room has sat vacant for two years. So, it really depends on the price point you are seeking in the market you are in.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868085]The cost of Bolt taxis seems to have just gone up slightly and that is the preferred app to use in Pattaya. Grab is better in Bangkok and more expensive to use in Pattaya. Don't get caught up with the price police on here. Pay the girls what you want. Whatever makes you happy and gets you what you want and who you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2868085]One last thing, many girls are coming out of relationships with guys that helped them during covid. The girls were accepting less from them as expats here as they had no choice. Now that we are heading into the first real high season since covid, there are plenty of single Thai girls back in the game. There are tons and tons of girls in Pattaya now and still not enough punters. You will have a great time. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]He is right plus new ones turning 18 everyday all across Thailand. I have 180+ unanswered messaged in my Thai Friendly mail box. Many of the prostitutes I have hired stay in contact with me and would like to see me again.

There is absolutely no reason for individuals posting here on ISG to be negative about the reports from others or negative about Pattaya. After all if you had enough money to get here, you have enough money to go somewhere else.