Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2868419]I was in Pattaya Aug-Oct 2022.

I was in Pattaya Aug-Oct 2023.

I can say definitively that hotel prices went up between those two trips, very noticeably in fact.

I don't think they'll go higher than where they are at now though, tourists numbers will dwindle, high season will disappoint.

When I return during low season in 2024 I expect the prices will be same as in 2023. But we'll see.[/QUOTE]This is why we have so much conflicting info. This guy is comparing come out of COVID pricing to now.

That thought did not even come across my mind.

I'm comparing pre Coronavirus pricing to now.

Who knows what time period the Condo guy is commenting on.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2868572]Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.[/QUOTE]Don't Fret you are over 60.

Not many of us are young and Hansum. We are PAYING.

Notice he did say his choice of Provider includes MILfS. Connect the Dots. I have and I've come to the conclusion they will do whatever you want. LOL. They take what they can get kind of thing. Beggars can't be Choosy,. Yatta!

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2868572]Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Bangkok for the past 12 years. I am now 70 years old now but I believe I am fairly fit. However, my dick is such that if it must wear a condom there will be no fucking or anything else to completion. It always has been that way. Well, I finished once wearing a condom back when I was in my early 20's after tremendous and dreary effort.

I have somewhat passable basic Thai language skills. Based on the chemistry that seems to be established in the bars, getting the girls laughing, hugging me, kissing me, crawling all over me when I do give them my attention, begging me to take them in the bars or on the street, I must be pretty damn charming to boot.

In the past 12 years I have lived in Bangkok. I have visited and stayed overnight in Pattaya a few dozen times in the past 12 years and about as many times back in the 1990's. I have engaged with at least a hundred different Pattaya ladies over the years. I am talking about ladies I chose to either just take or negotiate upfront with for a P4 P session.

I went with the "no discussion upfront, just go with the flow" approach about 30% of the time and the "negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach the other 70%. And these are a mix of ladies from Walking Street and LK Metro gogo bars, Soi 6 bars, freelancers strolling along Beach Road 1, Beach Road 2, Walking Street, you name it.

I tend to choose youngish, in their 20's that is, cute girls to engage for P4 P sessions.

My Pattaya score card for getting BBFS+CIP with the girls I want to fuck at all is as follows.

Using the "no upfront discussion, just go with the flow" approach even if I have to cajole, discuss further or offer more money at or very near the moment of penetration: Zero.

Using the "negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach: 1.

And I would rate that 1 and only 1 Pattaya girl who agreed to BBFS+CIP with me about a 6 on the Thai bargirl / Freelancer scale for looks. I would not have considered taking her if not for my hope that doing so would break my decades long "No BBFS+CIP with good-looking girls in Pattaya" curse. LOL. Which it did not break.

Again, that is 1 out of at least 100 Pattaya P4 P girls I met over the years and discussed a session with because I actually wanted to fuck them.

My rate of success for getting BBFS+CIP with girls attractive enough for me to want to fuck them is much, much, much better in Bangkok. That's why I live in Bangkok instead of Pattaya.

Yeah, I had plenty of no hassle BBFS+CIP in the Philippines, too. And with some of the best lookers in the gogo and beer bar scene in Manila and Angeles City. But that was about 30 years ago. I have no idea what it would be like for me now.

As always, YMMV.

Looks Matter.

Playpen. No sight of you know who. But their is a New Deputy.

More Tannish than Whitey. Looks young. Small like Baitoey. Face is an upgrade from regular Soi 6 girl.

You know the Drill, if you want a girl as you walk in you take one. A guy walks in looks around and takes the Deputy over all the other Toilets.

Give this one a few years to Mature I'm seeing a Superstar.

That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868532]Bronx Pizza Buakhao.

A poster brought up this was a Favorite of his. Do you concur?

For Slices I've come upon 3.

1. Asok BTS. Looks Horrible.

2. Bronx Pizza above. See number 1.

3. Pizza place across Repent Soi 6. See number 1.

Now Sbarro in Vegas, Hnl, their slices are fine and dandy.[/QUOTE]If you don't like thin crust, New York style pizza, you will not like Bronx Pizza.

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And I would rate that 1 and only 1 Pattaya girl who agreed to BBFS+CIP with me about a 6 on the Thai bargirl / Freelancer scale for looks. I would not have considered taking her if not for my hope that doing so would break my decades long "No BBFS+CIP with good-looking girls in Pattaya" curse. LOL. Which it did not break.

As always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]My Mileage did vary. I was getting about 75% success BBFS (I don't care about CIP as much). That included TF girls, Gogo girl, Beach Road girl and GC girl. So basically from all venues. Except for the gogo girl, I discussed up front my requirements. So there you are.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868598]This is why we have so much conflicting info. This guy is comparing come out of COVID pricing to now.

That thought did not even come across my mind.

I'm comparing pre Coronavirus pricing to now.

Who knows what time period the Condo guy is commenting on.[/QUOTE]Pre Covid is essentially four years plus ago. That's a long time. Get with the times. The world changes and constantly so.

[QUOTE=HardDrive;2868679]If you don't like thin crust, New York style pizza, you will not like Bronx Pizza.[/QUOTE]Bronx Pizza is very average for those who know their pizza. The draw is it's convenient location in the heart of Buakhao. I prefer the kebab stand that is nearby where you get a much heftier kebob for the same price a slice of pizza costs.

I spent last night from high-end soapy to soapy, go-go to go-go but couldn't find a single bird ready for a BBBJ. What is with these girls now a days?

Experienced members, I only have a couple of night left here, please let me know, where I can get a 3 some with BBBJ with 7+ looking girls.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2868491]After the ladies take care of their customer and then leave with cash in hand, they have a lot of options. Many go to Ibar or Insomnia, where drinks are cheap for them. Their hope is to hook a whale for big money. But, often, its early morning, they have had many drinks, and some young Farang offers 500 baht, and off they go.

This is if they don't have a Thai man waiting for them at home. If so, they just go home when they have money.

If they are new to Pattaya, they hit the karaoke bars at 1 am or so, buying drinks for young Thai men. It's expensive, moreso if they hook up with one long time. Some older long time bargirls never get over their addiction to karaoke boys and so have to work until they can't get customers any more, and when the money is gone, so is the honey.[/QUOTE]Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.

Thank you all for your feedback. I think I'll put off Thailand for a year and reevaluate then.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2868758]Good summary, I agree with this though 500 baht seems a very low offer, even for early morning hours.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about hansum young Farang. By the early morning, many bargirls are drunk and facing going home alone.

And many end up going for free, because what they really want is a young hansum Farang boyfriend.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2868672]That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.[/QUOTE]I know most of the ladies I fuck, and for many of them, I want to use a condom, since I know where they have been.

Lots and lots of "civvie" ladies who never work bar sometimes take a shift on Beach Road, going to the room with herds of South Asians.

Or they go to Karaoke bars and go with young Thai men who have a second job earlier in the evening working Farang bars and going with Farang men to the room.

Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2868672]That is an interesting take on the issue. I have seen several, maybe many reports on here from guys who swear it is not an issue and they often get BBFS with no negotiation or a simple no in the room and off to the races. I have little experience in Thailand in recent years but I do keep up and know a few guys who live there or visit often and their experience seems more in line with yours. Rare and often refused even for offers of more money. I am a little younger than you but also hate condoms and have a hell of a time getting off using one. Often times just seeing the girls get one out and open the package makes my hard on immediately start to disappear! If not I will give it a go but usually just give up and send them off without blowing my load.

If Thailand was more like the PI in that regard I would visit more often as I go to Cambodia for extended periods every year. What a fuck up that place has become! BBFS still available but the girls are asking silly money these days.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is probably an issue where Your Mileage May Vary applies more than most.

I don't know what it is about Pattaya and me that my getting a Yes or at least no prolonged resistance about BBFS+CIP with the girls I have met and wanted to fuck is so elusive. I don't and never really did have this much of a problem with girls I wanted to fuck in Bangkok. Or back in the day in Manila and Angeles City, of course. Or any number of other destinations in USA, Mexico, Vietnam, etc. Only Pattaya.

Clearly I am not and have never been as handsome and charming as the punters who claim it is the norm for them in Pattaya or we are choosing very different girls to engage for the experience or some combination of both.

I will say this, I am sure I could have and can get BBFS+CIP with any number of Pattaya ladies who approach me quite often as I cruise through the scene. Easily. Problem is, I am talking about ladies of an age and level of looks that I don't want to fuck and wouldn't even if they paid me. Not that they aren't nice ladies. They are just not ladies I would seriously engage as prospective P4 P providers.

So anyone looking for plenty of BBFS+CIP in Pattaya, rest assured I am not suggesting it is difficult to score that in Pattaya in the least. I can only relate my experience with the 100 or so girls I have bothered to engage for that level of service in Pattaya.

And to clarify my "100 girls" number results, in part I am talking about the approximate number of girls I have met there, wanted to fuck and took them on a "no upfront discussion about BBFS+CIP, just go with the flow" approach. That would be about 30% of those approximate 100 girls and none of them resulted in a BBFS+CIP experience at crunch time in bed, not even with a bit of cajoling, pressing, offering more money. I stop after one pass at 1-2 of those. I am not going to be whining, pleading or pestering some P4 P girl for it until she finally grudgingly gives in or gives up and pops her legs open. LOL.

Then, after my abysmal record of results with the "no discussion of BBFS+CIP upfront, just go with the flow" approach, I moved on to the "Negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach with the remaining 70% or so of that approximate 100 girls.

And that meant it was much cheaper and less time consuming for me to get that No response upfront before I committed to any money than to get that No at the moment of penetration. It also meant I only took the 1 Pattaya girl in the past 12 years who said Yes upfront to me for it. The one I mentioned in my previous post. For the ones who said No upfront, I smiled, thanked them for their time and moved on.

So my total number of Pattaya girls who wound up in my bed was not 100 but closer to 40-50. I have no idea how many of those No Upfront girls might have changed their mind in the room or simply gone along with BBFS+CIP if I hadn't mentioned it upfront at all. But my previous experience with the "go with the flow" approach informed me it would not be a pretty number. And for those of us who will not be fucking anyone while wearing a condom and where a BBBJ+CIM is likely as much of a No or is done so badly it is also not worth it, well, that's a lot of buzz-killing time and money spent in a hotel room for nothing.

Now, I do vaguely recall that I might have gotten BBFS+CIP with a Pattaya girl I was very attracted to during one of my many trips to Thailand about 30 years ago. But since I spent half a week, 3-4 days, in Bangkok and the other half, 3-4 days, in Pattaya, I can't exactly be certain I met and fucked that particular girl in Pattaya and not Bangkok that long ago. Maybe I got BBFS+CIP with 2 girls of my choice in Pattaya over the years and not just one.

And I should also mention that I have not mongered or engaged in any P4 P discussion upfront or in bed with a girl in Pattaya for about 3 years. My most recent attempt was sometime during the Covid closures. I also never used ThaiFriendly in Pattaya.